The Worst Idea Of All Time - Replay S01E18: Production Values

Episode Date: March 2, 2024

Please enjoy this victory lap of Season One episodes as we celebrate 10 years of The Worst Idea of All Time. New episodes posting on our Substack.Original Description:Guy and Tim are back with beers, pizza and a new lease on the movie they're putting themselves through watching 52 times. After four weeks, the lads have resorted to counting up every line of various characters and replacing the movie's soundtrack with music of their own choosing. A discussion on Apple, IBM, mushrooms, LSD, friendship, Europe and some of the film's deleted scenes are awaiting you. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Garmal Gomri, reporting for duty. Sir! No, I'm not really reporting for duty and you're not really a sir. Episode 18, Season 1. Quite a lot of ground cover. I thought this was a pretty thorough episode. I don't know if it represents a turning of the corner, but really, stay on task and get stuck in. Again, some trends are emerging.

I have a tendency to try and antagonize Tim through the medium of song. And, yeah, a few odd sort of date points. We sort of celebrate Alan DeGeneres' talk show. At one point, I think Tim says, Alan is one of the most fun shows you can go on, which I don't think is... It's funny to think that that is the sort of take that has aged the podcast.

We're cross-referencing the passage of time at the school term in Connecticut. There's a lot of talk about the performance of Keithy by the late Cameron Boyce. So it's sort of an accidental in memoriam for a young, seemingly a great guy gone far too soon. And we also, which is really, really intriguing to reflect on. Tim talks about if Grown Ups 3 three comes out we'll do it for two years an offer which is technically still on the table but i am hesitant to commit because i think

if we if we just keep doing this sort of thing for three years that would drive us crazy no concept that 10 years of the same shit is in front of me uh it's a lot of fun. I hope you enjoy. Hello and welcome along to episode 18 of the worst idea of All Time, a podcast in which myself, Tim Batt, and myself, Guy Montgomery, watch the film Grown Ups 2. We do it every week. We're doing it for a year. We've done it for over four months.

18 weeks of Grown Ups 2, a movie clocking in at one hour and 41 minutes and featuring some of Hollywood's heaviest hitters. We've got your Adam Sandler. We've got Chris Rock. We've got David Spade. We've got David Spade. We've got David Spade. We've got Steve Buscemi.

And not to mention Kevin James. And Tomatoes. And Maya Rudolph. Selma Hayek. Stone Cold Steve Austin. Colin Quinn. Andy Samberg. Taron Killam.

Patrick Schwarzenegger William Forte Is he in it? Oh he's in the fucking Oh damn it now I've ruined it Shit Have we missed anyone? Almost definitely

Okay Welcome along to the episode It's been an interesting watch today folks It started out as a grim tale of Emptiness and Emotional depravity We thought that this was that arguably one of the bleakest starts to the movie we've had we thought it was going to be the worst watch ever but i'll

tell you what we kept drinking beers and we ordered some pizza we soundtracked the movie intermittently we'd watch a scene then choose a song which we thought fit the scene quite nicely i took some notes and we had lollies it. And so it's turned into quite a magical experience. It's been lovely. And this is the second to last one before Guy Montgomery goes over to Europe for a brief intermission. Potentially eight weeks. Eight weeks

of podcasting across the entire globe. Across the equator. We're taking the show international, folks, and we hope that you join us. But let's I feel like we've got so much ground to cover this week. Should we rip into it? I think we already have. The first thing that I can recommend if you're going to watch Grown Ups 2 is BYO sounds.

No? Well, I'd say these are both good options. Oh, okay. Well, you'll want to work. But I was going to say BYO soundtrack. Yeah. are both good options. Oh, okay.

Well, you'll want to work. But I was going to say BYO soundtrack. Yeah. Bring some tunes that you think are good tunes because this movie is so scarcely soundtracked that you can just run

a nice little song under a scene that's going on and it adds a bit of zone. For example, me and Guy took on the fight scene which is near the end

of the movie today. What did you pick? I picked the Doobie Brothers What a Fool Believes and it went really nicely actually that's sort of slower sort of it's all it is slightly cheesy pop you might know this oh what a fool believe it was too high um we'll just put the can we i'll put it in this is this is it here You can see how that would go with the fight scenes.

Pretty cool. Yeah, it sort of juxtaposes the action with the dulcet tones of the Doobie Brothers. And what did you choose? Meanwhile, I picked a slightly more up-tempo and newer number, the theme song from Space Jam. And how does that go? You have to try and sing it.

Everybody get up, it's time to slam now we got the real jam going down welcome to the space jam space and your chance take your chance at the start it sounded like you're singing a song by five sound like get on up by five hey get on up listen man when you're down Baby Take a good look around It's a big Space Jam I know it's not much It's a big Space Jam fan But it's okay

I'm gonna take that as a disrespect We'll keep on moving on anyway We'll try that song next week Get on up When the rainy days are flying Hold on Hold on for a second Shut up for a second

Seriously Shut the fuck up Here's what Space Jam sounds like When you let go Everybody get up It's time to slam now. We got the real jam going down. Welcome to the Space Jam. Here's your chance, do your dance at the Space Jam.

Alright. Like that. Gotta hold on and... Keep moving, don't stop rocking. Yeah, anyway, I used to love Five. Another one we did was during the tyre scene, the Simpsons scene, Keep moving, don't stop rocking. Yeah, anyway, I used to love five. Another one we did was during the tyre scene, the Simpsons scene,

we've talked about it at length, ad nauseum through the podcast. I'd say the whole podcast, I don't quite know the definition, the turn of phrase, ad nauseum. I know it means when something has been... To the point of being ill. Like you do something... Well, the whole podcast concept is...

Yeah, we should have called it ad nauseum. Tim and Guy present ad nauseum. Ah, you live and you learn. We can do it next year when we do it with Grown Ups 3. Yeah We should have called it Ad Nauseam Tim and Guy Present Ad Nauseam Ah You live and you learn We can do it next year When we do it with Grown Ups 3 Yeah too true

Anyway we played Shania Twain Man I Feel Like a Woman Let's go girls Worked really well For that scene For that tyre scene It did

Also I took notes As I did last week I thought it was a really useful sort of thing to do in terms of giving us reference points or bits that jutted out throughout the viewing. So I'm just going to throw some stuff at you, Tim, and you can tell me how you feel.

Please. The first thing you told me to write down today was hiccups in Higgins. Yeah, never noticed it before. Can you explain what this is? So David Spade's character's lastups and Higgins. Yeah, never noticed it before. Can you explain what this is? So David Spade's character's last name is Higgins and he gets referred to just as Higgins for most of the film. And the person who he had the kid with that he didn't know about

is only named as Hiccups McGee and he calls her more often than not Hiccups. So Higgins and Hiccups had a kid together. I just found that interesting. Or maybe lazy script writing. I think that is... Or maybe I'm reading too much into it. Yeah, I think that is definitely a product

of watching the movie too many times. And it would be interesting if they got married, though, and she took his surname. No, because her name's not Hiccups. No, not legally. It's just because they couldn't be bothered writing. Like, that's the ultimate laziness in script writing, eh? You can't even bring yourself to name a character. And the next thing after this which you sort of encouraged me to

write down which was of interest to me yeah not really related to the movie i'd be interested if you can tell me what prompted it but you just said sort of about 20 to 30 minutes in steve jobs in the early days of apple wouldn't hire anyone who hadn't tried acid before. Yeah. Do you know what brought that on? Yeah, it was because I announced it when the two boys are considering drinking the beers or not. Well, they don't even consider drinking it. They go, I don't know if I'm ready for beer. They're 17 years old.

If you're not ready for beer, guess what? You're not ready for life, mate. Life is going to knock you on your goddamn ass. Well, this comes from a guy. Another thing I wrote down during the film was you said when they said they weren't ready for beer at 17, Tim Batts said, I was drinking beer at 13.

Yeah. That wasn't for the podcast. It was more just for you, but you can bring it on here. What a cool dude. My point being, you've got to try new things. And my point being,

that's exemplified by one of the greatest entrepreneurial minds of our time, Steve Jobs. What do you think about steve jobs no non-acid employees policy i don't surely surely good people come from both of those books of life completely like it's not a universal rule but i think as a rule of thumb it's kind of an interesting one that in the early days of apple he wouldn't hire anyone who hadn't done it considering the success of what apple would become it is it is certainly he was a visionary and apparently used to ask people point blank, and they interpreted it as being like... Because if you got asked at IBM, for example,

which was like the competing company if you were a computer guy, if you got asked if you'd ever done drugs before, your answer had to be no. But if your answer was no at Apple, ironically, they wouldn't hire you. You know what I mean? That's funny. Imagine the really talented computer programmer who goes to Apple and they go, have you tried acid before?

And he goes, no. And then they go, sorry, you can't work here. And then he goes to IBM and they go, have you tried acid before? And he goes, well, I'm not falling for this one again. I surely have. And then he gets blacklisted from Silicon Valley. God, how many geniuses have we goddamn lost

because of the inconsistency in the drug policy? At IBM and Apple. These are the questions, the tough, hard questions that we pose on a weekly basis here at The Worst Idea of All Time. This is where your mind goes when you've seen an Adam Sandler film 18 times. Hey, quick divergence.

We're going to go see Blended at some point, hopefully before you head off to Europe, which is the new Adam Sandler movie when's its release date here I think it's out now isn't it oh hopefully

the Cheap Tuesday boys are going to shout us a trip to an Adam Sandler movie I don't think they realise the last thing we want to do is be yeah they keep saying it's a treat

it's not a fucking treat it's a treat for them it's horrid and I've seen the trailer it looks truly bad I can't remember if I talked about it on the podcast Or in person with some people But I watched Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore

Being interviewed by Alan DeGeneres On the Alan Show for this movie Blended I still haven't seen that It was really bleak Like it was Like everyone who was on Alan DeGeneres' couch And Alan is a really uplifting show I mean she's a fantastic host

Yeah She was trying to sort of will generous's couch and alan is a really uplifting show i mean she's a fantastic host yeah she um she was trying to sort of will some sort of entertainment value out of it and it was just like it was like it was like adam sandler and drew barrymore had been asked to their partner's dinner party and like just before they go out the door like oh do i really have to go and they go yes come on we'll just stay for an hour and then we can go home afterwards it'll be fine and so it's like

watching them at that dinner party where they're going Alan is one of the most fun shows I could imagine being on if you can't even muster the energy to promote your product

but it's not about the show it's what the product that they were promoting was no but it is a little like I'm pretty sure I could go on Alan and sell dog turds and have fun with it

because it's Alan could you sell this podcast on Alan absolutely bro I'dds and have fun with it because it's Alan could you sell this podcast on Alan? absolutely bro I'd have so much you come with me we'd have such a good time what if they didn't ask me?

what if they only wanted you? no man I would insist on it I'd say I'm not there unless you bring in Guy Montgomery and they'd say we're not bringing Guy Montgomery and I'd say

wow you only get one shot at Alan I'm there sign me up sorry bro it's alright what would you do in that situation you're going if i if i said if they said what if they see guy montgomery we want to talk to you

about we study of all time we've only got room for you on the couch tim can't come he didn't win the billy t i've seen that couch no they've packed up with guests there's other guests on who are the guests so here's who we got robert downey Downey Jr Yeah Okay He's on your couch by the way Yeah yeah Selma Hayek's there Which is kind of why they've brought you in Yeah yeah Okay

We've also got Bill Gates is there to talk about the foundation The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation And weirdly Former President Barack Obama is there as well So it's pretty bad Former President So this is happening

What? 2017 So they discovered the podcast Yeah Like three years after the fact Yeah And thought Oh this is interesting

Yeah you got it Well I mean Having it set in the future Changes the whole tone of the question Because we might not even be I'm imagining that Within 52 watches of this movie we will have fallen out.

Yeah, fair assumption. So I'd go and I'd cuss you out. Oh really? Because that's a big leap. Well, because if we've fallen out, it's over some sort of disservice one of us has done. Yeah, but you don't need to cuss me out on international television.

I'm going to put spit on it. Dude, there's no need for that. Even now, look at how frail our relationship is. A hypothetical appearance on the Ellen Show in 2017 is threatening to drive a stake through our working relationship in June 2014. Yeah, because I didn't bring up shading you on international television. Yeah, but you also didn't give me the opportunity

to bring up the hypothetical that you were in. If I gave that to you, if I posited it to you that we're in 2017 and... Listen, at the very worst, I would just go on without you. I wouldn't cuss you out in front of everyone. Well, maybe you shouldn't have done the thing that you're inevitably going to do towards the tail end of this podcast. Shit, but imagine if you got to meet Obama, right? How cool would that be? I don't know what I'd talk to him about. Really?

You can think of anything? Oh, man, it must be so relaxing now you're not president. Yeah, that would be a good conversation starter. And he'd pick up that ball and run with it. He's a really good conversationalist. It's a big part of the job, isn't it? As a politician. Yeah.

Yeah. Would you rather have, politics aside, would you rather have David Cunliffe or John Key over for dinner? Oh, no. I reckon John Key, to be honest, politics aside. I feel like he's just like, he'd be a better time. Cunliffe's so guarded. I feel like he's so guarded all the time.

Isn't that a success of the image that John Key has projected? Yeah, it completely is. Yeah. Well, or is it? I don't know. I mean, I know that we have a big listenership in Great Britain. Not to mention South Korea. And Turkey.

So I think we should maybe move on. Quick shout out to our listeners in Cyprus. We should move over from local politics. No, hold on. Let's name check all the countries. We're alienating the listeners. Anyway, so it was greatly received last week when I documented all of the lines afforded to Brayden Higgins, son of David Spade's character in the film.

He had a grand total of 20. And at the end of the podcast, I pitched the lines to you, Tim, as you'll recall. Hashtag summertime. Hashtag summertime. So this week, I have instead documented the lines afforded to Keith Fader, son of Adam Sandler. Keithy! Possibly my least favourite. Tim's probably second least favourite character in the film.

Yeah, second to last. Of course, Donna is the least. We all know that. Hey, just a quick shout out to all the countries listening. New Zealand. Woo! The United Kingdom. Woo!

Australia. The United States. Other regions. Yeah! Canada. The United States. Other regions. Yeah! Canada. France. Belgium. The Republic of Korea.

Morocco. Who's in Morocco? I don't know anyone in Morocco. Look, this is something we should do in private. Yeah, sorry. So, okay, let's hear it. Keithy's lines. So Keithy.

So Keithy, son of Adam Sandler. Should I pitch it? I mean why don't we do why don't we do a top three of these lines I don't think we should run through all the lines again

okay so 22 and title okay you can just pick three because you wrote them down so you'll be more familiar okay you'll be across them these are the lines

I imagine when he combed through the script and highlighted the lines that he had been given these are the ones which jumped out and said and I'm sorry to railroad you just before you start, but 22's not a lot of lines.

I thought he had way more than that. I know, well, he starts off hot, but then there's huge swaths of the film in which he doesn't appear at all. Right. 22's only two more than Brayden Higgins. I'm wondering if there's a formula wherein all of these periphery characters

only get between 20 and 25 lines. This arc's back to the tax write-off scenario that i posited early on in the podcast i reckon maybe if you go over 25 lines you have to pay them an extra amount of money i feel like we could be stumbling into one of the greatest conspiracy theories hollywood's ever seen right now let's hear our top three okay our top three i was trying to avoid a big idiot trying to hurt me on the bus this morning, but he wouldn't leave me alone. So there he is being sort of standoffish, afraid, and fair enough too. Then here's him being a bit goofy and aggressive towards his older brother, Greg.

He's the chicken who asked her out, Dad, because she's the hardest girl in school. And Greg is fugly. And then Adam Sand adam said i go so what he's fugly all the men in our family are fugly that doesn't stop us from getting the hot chicks i mean look at your mother me and look at your mother it doesn't make any sense only in like a hollywood movie okay and the top top, drumroll please. Yeah, one crazy ass one. There's a little acting tick that Keith has, and every time he says crazy, his arms go wild and he flails them by his ears.

Like he doesn't have any control over his limbs when the word crazy is involved. Yeah, one crazy ass one uh which is of course when at the very start of the movie the deer is running wild through the house and uh becky explains i just let the door open in case any animals wanted to come in but one did and then that's right now and for those of you at this point in the podcast are thinking tim and guys stop ragging on the movie. It's a fine movie. This isn't my shining light. We'll get to that right afterwards. But this is a triumph of the film. Yeah.

At one point when Chris Rock is being a negligent, not only employee to the cable company he works for, but also to his mother-in-law. Yeah. He has one job on the day that the movie's set, Friday the 21st of June, 2013. Yeah, we paused it bitches we paused it on which is to install cable at his mother-in-law's house between the hours of nine and

four and he sits he sits outside and waits till it's 359 and doesn't do it anyway it's beside the point we did pause it this is the point is that we paused it we paused it on his wristwatch we paused it on his wristwatch and then we said tim said wait a minute was the 21st of june last year even a friday so i checked my calendar and yes it was well played grown-ups too moreover though tim said well do we know that the state holidays in connecticut time out with that time of year in june is that the end of the school term which is the last day i googled connecticut term holidays yeah and this year the term holidays have fallen on Friday the 20th of June, which tells me that last year, in 2013,

they absolutely, the last day of school, would have fallen on Friday the 21st of June. They fucking nailed it. So fucking well played, grown-ups, too. Yeah, like, there's a lot of shit that you fucked up in this movie, and a lot of lazy script writing, but I'll tell you something. You saw the convergence of the end of the school term heading into summer and a friday and you picked up that ball and you cashed in the

ball right to mix a metaphor and i'm proud and i'm proud of you uh tim now it is time for your shining light well i'm so glad you asked remember that scene at the start of the movie where uh becky and bean who were um kevin james's kid and adam sandler's kid uh right off on their bicycles at the start of the movie where Becky and Bean, who are Kevin James' kid and Adam Sandler's kid, ride off on their bicycles. Yeah. Well, if you look behind Adam Sandler in that sequence,

the plant that's behind him looks a lot like a weed plant. Like marijuana. Is that really it? Looks like hemp. Yep, that's my shining light. It was a toss-up between that and all of the caps

that Adam Sandler wears in the movie, but this week I've this week i've gone also you asked me to sort of suggest to you uh becky wearing her jansport backpack yeah i told you to write that down was that just a trigger for the for the hemp no it wasn't i changed it after like because i saw the backpack first my original shining light of the movie this week was that um becky's wearing a jansport backpack which is a fucking quality backpack. It's a good branded backpack. It was sort of

Herschel before Herschel came onto the scene. Exactly. And there's still what I like about them is Herschel has taken a

particular space in the backpack market where they're a little bit more expensive but obviously high quality and they look the tits. I think they more

look the tits than they are high quality. I've got a Herschel backpack. How did it wear? The seam at the top part Is sort of coming apart After how much use?

How much wear? Like a year and a half Of reasonable wear Because I mean You're not fucking hiking in it Or anything No I can't have been subjected to

Too much I was just wearing it around A year and a half I was wearing it a lot I was overseas I was wearing it like most days But still I feel like a Jan Sport

Would hold up to more than a year and a half for punishment. That's what I love about Jan Sport, man. You spend 30, 40 bucks on a backpack. That thing will last you three, four years. Yeah, absolutely. My shining light was an extra. There's a scene where the principal is announcing the end of term

and sort of saying education doesn't run to a set schedule, which is a great message and obviously a takeaway from the film uh for for any any high school students listening is education or tertiary students doesn't run to a set schedule it's a i mean you're constantly learning and evolving as a person even right now as you as you listen to this this in some way will be informing your personal makeup. And I think what I'm trying to say is that every, and I learned this from a guy named Simon Pound, very intelligent guy. He said every dollar you spend is a dollar towards the world you want to live in. So as a consumer, you have to make a conscious decision that every time you give someone or some company a dollar, that's you essentially giving them a vote that says this is part of the global economy

in which I want to exist. Where did we start from with this? So my shining light was there was an extra in the background of this classroom and the principal was saying that it's the start of summer and she was kicking her feet up and down heaps with excitement. She was either in character or really excited that they were about to finish shooting for the day.

But she was kicking her feet with a reckless abandon and I thought, good on you, teenager. How does this relate to the democratic nature of a free market consumer society? Oh, it doesn't. I got slightly sidetracked in the middle of The Shining like that. Do you know what I like about that scene? Is that they've really gone to great efforts

to paint the teacher as a real peacenik. Like, there's an american flag that instead of having the stars and the stars and stripes it's got the peace symbol and stuff and there's just a lot of and again the set dresses on this movie amazing 10 out of 10 there's like so much detail that's gone into that classroom to really just elevate his character with a lot of just little little touches yeah and you know one thing we talked about a lot during this viewing was how well this movie is shot like the dop in this movie and i mean this completely genuinely hats off to you mate because everything's we know you're listening we know you've been waiting for the compliment i know you're the hand to you whoever the dop is of grown-ups too and i

really mean this you worked on a terrible, terrible film, but you really brought the noise with what you did. Okay, Tim. So well done. Now it's time for a guessing game. Is this a line delivered by Keith during Grown Ups 2, or is this just a line I've made up? Here we go.

Here we go. I'll close my eyes. Here we go. Leave me alone that is from the movie and it is oh it's when he's talking to the bully with the Mariah

Carey haircut which bit is it on the bus no oh okay it's when the bully is stabbing the crutch into him and he says it very off mic so you're trying to trick me with that and it's he's almost in the back of the shot during the party scene near the end of the film right or wrong well if he does say that i might have missed it oh damn it he said that no no i didn't make it up it wasn't the movie. It was on the bus on the way to school.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Anyway, I think one is the right number for that game. It doesn't really work. It doesn't really work unless you've seen it 18 times. Now, there's been some talk about Grown Ups 3 recently, and I'd just like to say and reiterate my and Guy's commitment that if it does come out

we'll be watching it once a week for two years so if that doesn't get it across the line I don't know what will right? we've talked about this we have not talked about that I just sprung it on you now I mean

I'd do a year but would you do two? that's actually a big chunk of life, eh? I wouldn't do two. Because that's like I'm marrying myself to you in some weird way. Yeah. And it's not that we're not getting along, but pertaining to what came up earlier in the podcast,

I do forecast I'm sort of falling out by the end of the experience. Now, Tim, before we go, one last thing I'd like to touch on. In between watching the movie and recording the podcast today we watched deleted scenes they're available on YouTube there's about six minutes of them and it's hard to tell whether or not it's because it was a variant on something that we'd

seen so often or something else but they cut a lot of the best gags. Fuck yes like I was shocked and and you're right it might be just because it's fresh and we've seen the rest of the film 18 times but the stuff they cut was fucking funny it was gold namely one scene involving officer dante and officer shaquille o'neal listen to that tim bennett is just laughing at the memory of it we're not going to tell you about it if you want to see you have to look it up on YouTube and see for yourself

I'll give you one clue though Shaq screams into a detained child's face what's his name Brayden Higgins Brayden Higgins face can you dig it right into his

fucking face it's so funny it is god damn it it's good and also there's a great crack that Mayor Rudolph makes

which I think is the best delivered line that i've seen him make in the film and unfortunately was cut from the film obviously even penny could give her husband a boner in one of these yeah which she's referring to a dress um it is actually quite a saucy dress i mean i think they cut it because i'm not saying the film doesn't have a confused tone but that but that was what might have pushed it over the edge from a PG to a PG-13. Yeah. Look, we've covered a lot of the ground tonight, and as Jeremy Wells would say in Eating Media Lunch,

and that's our show. Thanks so much for joining us on the Worst Idea of All Time, episode 18. It's been a pleasure having you along. My name's Tim Batt. My name's Guy Montgomery. Remember to like the page on Facebook if you want regular updates on how depressing our weeks are.

Who sounds desperate now? We'll see you guys next week. Remember... Live every moment Love every day Cause before you know it Your precious time slips away