The Worst Idea Of All Time - Replay S01E20: Echo

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

Please enjoy this victory lap of Season One episodes as we celebrate 10 years of The Worst Idea of All Time. New episodes posting on our Substack.Original Description:Plauged by technical errors and conflicting time schedules the boys finally found time to watch the movie simultaneously on Skype with each other and record the podcast. Guy is coming to us live from London town on a beautiful crisp British Friday morning. Tim is depressing using his Friday night to watch Adam Sandlers paycheck sequel one more gosh darn time. Nobody is particularly happy but then, that's not the point. Is it? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Lovely little episode back on the evens. 20, a bit of a milestone, just as a clean round number. Always love the number 20. But also, you know, this is our first remote record. And all told, I think we do a great job of it. It's fascinating, the time capsule component of this. This is my first time visiting England, and I'm clearly quite taken by it.

I'm really even spotlighting the fact that it's full of English people, which seems, you know, you would assume that is self-evident. But no, this has got a lot of the ingredients for a classic episode. I'm up at 7.30 a.m. Tim's, you know know up at night time um we're talking about emojis you know a lot of emoji chat clearly breaking through in 2014 probably you know this this episode probably helped pave the way for the emoji movie that we would also later watch in 2017 uh You've got us discussing how we chose

grown-ups too. Tim's fighting with people online. There's a lot of ingredients here for a nice episode. Honestly, when I heard this one, I kind of felt proud of us. I thought, good on you guys. You're finding something. You're finding rapport. And I was really excited for that young version of myself. I remember the gig I described going to in this show. It was amazing. Anyway, I really enjoyed this one, and I hope you do too. I think it's, you know, I think it's good stuff. Feel that moment, love every day

Cause before you know it, your precious time slips away Are we doing this? Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Now you go. Hello Tim.

Well, it's quite confusing, isn't it? Because we're not in the room together. We're sort of addressing each other through Skype right now. See, we used to do that. It was a bit. It was a funny gag. But now I literally, I don't know if you were supposed to go first or I'm going or, you know. It's confusing.

Very confusing. Hello, everyone. My name's Guy Montgomery. And my name's Tim Batt. And welcome along to the worst idea of all time. And I've got to tell you that between us right now, this really does feel like the worst idea of all time and I've got to tell you that between us right now this really does feel like the worst idea of all time. Guy and I have just struggled through approximately 35 to 40 minutes of technical difficulties

after watching the film together. Together in a way because Guy almost couldn't be further away from me in the world right now. This is true. And also, your camera was working for the first sort of 20 minutes, and then it just went. And so I felt like I was watching. I got up at 7.30 to watch the movie this morning,

and for a lot of it, it felt like I just got up at 7.30 alone to watch Grown Ups 2 in London. Let's assess how depressing this 20th watch of Grown Ups 2 was. This is how I'm spending my Friday night tonight. And this is how you're spending your trip in London. Do you know how fucking beautiful it is here today? It's like 30. It's almost 30. It's almost 30.

It's like 20-something. Are you shitting me, mate? What are you doing with your life? Get out there, son. Get out there, kick a ball around, mate. The idea is that if we do this now, I sort of get the rest of the week to attack London. But, I mean, we'll inevitably arrive at discussing London momentarily, but, I mean, let's we'll get we'll inevitably arrive at discussing London

sort of momentarily but I mean let's talk about the movie must we need we what the people that's what the people listen to the podcast for I don't know wondering did they enjoy it this week did they finally come around you got into a fucking an argument on the internet like a loser what happened there sorry I'm just eating almonds i think the microphone's probably picking that up quite loudly um someone uh put on my facebook wall they had like the financials of of grown-ups too and it was about how much money it made and how much it cost and it was so profitable that this guy was like hey there's probably going to be a grown-ups three because it was it made so much money yeah and i said oh it's just terrible

or something to that effect and a girl said what do you mean I don't get it, it was a great movie even better than Grown Ups 1 what am I missing? To which I replied functioning discernment which she took issue with That's where you made your first

mistake is you antagonised someone not only on the internet but someone who enjoyed Grown Ups 2 Yeah but I've been in a very grumpy mood There's two red flags there I've been in a very grumpy mood the last week or so so I was just waiting to lash out at an unsuspecting

internet netizen And then it sort of spiralled out of control It's hard to take her argument seriously as well. I think her M key on her keyboard is broken. Yeah, it's very strange. Because every sentence or argument she'd make had a capital M in it, and it looked like a 14-year-old.

You know when it used to be cool to do those texts where you'd alternate between lower and uppercase? I didn't do them, but it was quite a popular thing that people did. Sure. it looked like the least time efficient way of communicating anything because you'd have to use your caps lock key

every second I don't know just a thought do you remember that or am I no no that's very much a thing you're totally right

and I think maybe some teenagers out there might still be doing it to this day but they've probably all moved on they've probably all moved on to emojis now, you know? Yeah, emojis are taking over.

You see, they're releasing another 250. Are you serious? I saw actually a New Yorker cartoon this morning, which had a boardroom, or like a test room, and two sort of people in suits looking into it and saying, I don't understand these millennials, but I'll take their money. And it was sort of a regular cartoon, but then their faces were emojis. Wow.

Well, the New Yorker's commenting on emoji now. Emoji has arrived, as if it already hadn't. Did you say they're releasing another 250? I didn't realise, like, are they all officially kind of sanctioned? Is that how emojis work? Emoji's a big deal, mate. Emoji's like an app you get. Do you use emoji?

I feel like we're too... No, I don't. I feel like we're too fuckwit, too belly... Like, I definitely don't know what I'm talking about. I get the sense... You certainly know a lot more about this than I do, but I don't think you fully get what you're talking about either. I absolutely do.

Do you? Stupid... You know when someone texts you and it shows up with like a million little fucking pictures oh yeah yeah yeah for sure of a cat and a tiger and a yeah but i thought i thought they were app specific so like facebook's got their own set of emojis and those aren't those own set those aren't emojis those are stickers emoji is fuck me come on think this thing through mate

and don't bloody slander my knowledge of emoji which is as I've just shown expensive I feel like it's going to be difficult for us to sort of

get on the same movie watching wavelength during this period of the the podcast it's not a bad thing though guy variety is the spice of life it is it is

variety like even now I mean it's just I'm still sort of do you know what I did though guy variety is the spice of life it is it is variety like even now I mean it's just I'm still sort of do you know what I did last night do you know

how quickly I've gone from the soaring highs of life to the crushing lows tell me I went and watched Arcade Fire play in Hyde Park

this amazing like two hour show it was a spectacle oh my god surrounded by Brits it was it was like 20 degrees just beautiful young british people sunning themselves everywhere and then i had i went and had some drinks and soho afterwards it was all very cosmopolitan don't you know and then i sort of around one o'clock i got a bit tired and i thought i better get home i got to get

up in fucking five and a half hours to watch Grown Ups 2 with someone in New Zealand and I understand you're also making a sacrifice it's Friday night there and you're here I feel like yours is bigger bro I feel like you're overseas

and it's also summer where you are yeah and it's also it's just kind of like I'm hungover now but I've by the end of this

it's taken so long to get to the actual recording I've gotta go out and start the day like and it's taken so long to get to the actual recording, I've got to go out and start the day. I've got a big day planned. I'm meeting lots of people, and I'm just going to be in shit steed. I'm going to be in shit steed all day.

All right, mate. Oh, you're a very important guy, Montgomery. You're very cool. You're reading your New Yorker. You're putting forward biting social commentary on emojis, and you're in London town, I get it, you're outgrowing me I get it, we all get it mate when you say it out loud like that it does sound like I'm outgrowing you

you're off to arcade fire on a nightly basis, it's fine, you're seeing big international acts I'm outgrowing this podcast you certainly have no longer serves any purpose for me there it is folks week 20

that was the one that broke the camel's back no I couldn't leave you tell me about how you felt about the film I was

I actually sort of it was quite weird because I was sort of you know those lucid sort of hangovers where you feel like you're in an augmented reality? Sure.

It kind of felt like that. I was watching different parts of the movie, even from the previous 19 screenings. For instance, my shining light this week was when Keithy's kicking the goals and all the football players and coaches come over to look at him kicking the goals. Yeah. kicking the goals and all the sort of football players and coaches come over to look at look at him kicking the goals yeah one of the the second coach sort of the assistant coach i'm assuming from the body language and where he was standing uh he was wearing these weird sort of shin high sort of in between knee and shin high blue socks that was your highlight and those socks were my shining light today good god good, that's a stretch. Isn't that weird?

That's very weird, Brian. Yeah. And like, I noticed, I have some theories that I noticed. Like, you know how when we first meet Tim Meadows, the guy goes, what? At Kmart. I think the reason he says what like that

and has developed it as a catchphrase is because these people are so relentlessly mean to him. He just cannot fathom why they keep coming back and doing it. He's like, what? Still, what? There's a certain level of plausibility to that. That's very funny. I like that theory.

And I also noticed that Kevin James' character, Eric Lamonsoff or whatever, was a Boy Scout. As a or whatever, was a Boy Scout. As a child, he was a Boy Scout. That's a detail I picked out. There was a certificate shown in the movie which says Eric Lamonsoff,

Boy Scout Association of America. Oh, there you go. Background, context. This is all from a London viewing early in the morning with a hangover. You've brought a different lens to the film this time. You've brought a different perspective to view the movie through. Yeah, well, I feel like being a broad sort of...

It's still the same movie, but it is slightly different. I mean, I feel like for you it's sort of bog-standard grown-ups 2 viewing. Is this... What were you thinking? It's watching it on a laptop screen, which is different. Usually it's on a tally. Usually I've got my mate by my side, so lonely. You're asleep for half of it. I'm going to call you out right now on that bullshit.

I was awake. I actually believe you were awake, but you looked out to it. Because this is the cute thing. I had the movie movie up but a little window of you in the corner of the screen so i kind of had a picture in picture scenario of guy watching the movie and me watching the movie i will say that's what i tried to get but you your camera wasn't going i i will i will concede i might have lost sort of a minute or a minute or so here here and there well Hither and thither.

Well, the thing is, the thing with Grown Ups 2 at this point is, I can shut my eyes and I know the action that's unfolding on the screen. I might not be able to pick out those details I just shared with you, but I know the basis of what's happening. Oh yeah, I think we're well acquainted with all of it at this stage. Hey, do you want to know my shining light this week? It was Taylor Lautner's delivery of when he gets given the monkey by Becky of it at this stage hey do you want to know my shining light this week it was yeah taylor lautner's delivery of when he gets given the monkey by becky and he goes it's a monkey it's real funny really when he first gets it when he first gets it and he looks at it and he realizes

what it is he just looks at it he goes it's a monkey it's a monkey funny man i also enjoyed again i i it's quite funny there's certain things I enjoy in the movie now which I know you originally enjoyed and you'd say I like these things

and I go I sort of not fob them off but just sort of be enjoying my own facets what are we talking about one of them is the

the fucking the blonde jock guy Taylor Lawton's best friend when he finds out that Tim Meadows is bald. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so good. It's like he's never seen a bald person before.

He's so excited by it, eh? Oh, my God. He's bald. Like a wild one. It's just insane. It's such a good moment because he's so fucking happy. That's what I love about it. It's seeing a good moment because he's so fucking happy. That's what I love about it. It's seeing a moron just be over the moon about something.

And there's something special about that. Yeah, mate. Yeah, mate. I mean, I don't know how to... I can't will the energy to talk about this movie right now. Yeah, I know what you mean, man. It's difficult via proxy, eh? It's difficult when we're on alternate hemispheres it's a different energy it's a different vibe

well tell me this what do me this i'm gonna why don't i come up with the top three for you right now on the spot and you try and give me three would that would that be something that could work that could generate some sort of energy some sort of buzz some sort of vibe i'm ready i don't know if we've done this one before, but here we go. It's a big one, Guy Montgomery. It's big, it's broad, it's in your face. I want you to shoot from the hip here. Your top three favourite shots from the film.

Oh, a fine choice. My favourite shot from the film, number one, is it's at the party after Shaq jumps on the diving board and then there's a shot of everyone sort of laughing in the fanfare and it sort of sort of punches in like yeah on Kevin James sort of reacting I always that shot always strikes me I always think I know why I I absolutely know the shot you're talking about and I know why because in that shot both Kevin James and David Spade there you can see it

they're not acting they're genuinely two dudes reacting to a moment that they're saying like I reckon they broke that diving board and they just rolled camera on them and didn't tell them that it's a very real visceral reaction but it's not easy but for me it's it's I mean I'm assuming you know that that's true but we're talking about the the craft here yeah you know and but for me, it's, I mean, I'm assuming, you know, that's true, but we're talking about the craft here. Yeah. You know, and it's sort of, it's the way it's done. I mean, if they did the whole movie like that, it would have certainly added a sense of reality maybe to it.

Like, it's just a different, it doesn't feel like your stock standard Adam Sandler comedy when they're shooting like that, when everybody's shooting from the hip. Sure, sure. I hear you. It's good so that's number three oh yeah yeah

I've said it before I'll say it again great establishing shot right off the top the sort of the the vista I don't know

if that's the correct use of vista what's vista I think vista's like I used the word with I used the word with... Vista. Noun. A pleasing landscape. Yeah.

Too easy. The Vista of the trees in Connecticut as we are grounded in the town and the world of the movie and the setting of the film. You know what I'm talking about? At the very top. And the only thing that sort of

sullies the shot is it says grown ups 2 in text across it in big letters right in the fucking middle is it a crane shot

or is it a helicopter because I can't remember if they're moving fast enough I would have thought a helicopter oh no it's crane it's not moving

too quickly anyway I thought that was a pretty good shot it's a really lovely shot because the trees are pretty and they've shot it in a nice way. So I back you up on that bowl. Great choice.

Great choice for number two, mate. And number one shot in Grown Ups 2, the smash hit comedy from Adam Sandler and Friends released in 2013 is oh my god um I'm sort of

it's weird I could just pull any show out of the sky but I kind of want to honour the the podcast and the top three and really pull out a doozy and the DOP yeah and the DOP whose name I don't know. Do you have one that's springing to mind? Well, one that springs to mind immediately

is the sweeping shot for the fight, just before the fight starts, where they're all coming down the hill. Up the lawn. Yeah, yeah. And you got very excited about that shot, remember, because you sort of, it had been secretly bothering you that you hadn't figured out how they'd done it.

It wasn't secretly, I just didn't, I didn't put it out loud until I... Nailed it. Yeah, until I figured it out. I can't even remember what my big issue was, but it was, I figured out that they had a whole lighting rig on the move with the cameras and you can tell that because there's a big shadow that gets cast as as it progresses it doesn't who fucking cares who's listening to this podcast what am i talking about this is the

sort of detail this is so stupid bro this is the sort of detail that escapes mere mortals i feel finished finish your explanation and then tell mortals. I feel terrible. Finish your explanation and then tell me about how you feel terrible. I feel terrible getting into the minutiae, if that's the word, of this movie on something that's recorded ostensibly forever. Like it's on the internet now, so that's it. I've said dumb shit floating around out there. I've gone too deep. Anyway, what I was saying is there's the shot, and it's cool.

They track up a lawn, and you can see the shadow gets cast further forward at equal distance to the shot going up. So obviously what they've got is a big lighting rig attached to the camera sort of apparatus, and the whole thing's on like a truck or something that they're just piss bolting up the hill. So you can see a rolling shadow go up. I got quite chuffed when I figured that out because based on the shadow,

I kind of reverse engineered how they created the rig. But the real question is, who gives a fuck, guy, you know? Well, I did. I asked for that information, so don't dump on me for one i mean i'm i'm dangerously close to walking out on this podcast you shouldn't be you shouldn't be abusing me sorry saying nice things guy you're a lovely man and i appreciate that you've taken time out

of your holiday um you know to make it happen holiday but you've got to appreciate that I've it's my Friday night taking time out of your busy social life big Friday night big Friday night in with the lappy and the microphone

and Guy Montgomery and grown ups too sounds awful the worst comedy awful way to spend time hey I saw there's a little bit of

this isn't anything with the movie this is this sort of this conversation should exist outside of the realm of the podcast oh please

throw anything at me right now spoken to you since I left what happened at Big Wednesday like I saw a few people on Big Wednesday the comedy night the classic in Auckland

I saw like a few people I was posting on social media being like that was a great big crazy Big Wednesday what happened? shit I'm not sure I'm not sure

I don't know were you there? weren't you I was hosting it I don't know what they were talking about though like a few people were like

whoa I can't even explain it really? who was saying for everyone listening to the podcast Big Wednesday is a

stand up comedy night at the Classic which is on Queen Street in Auckland. I don't know what happened that particular Wednesday. Maybe that was the one... Oh, no, because it was a Thursday night. Nah, fuck, I don't know, bro. I don't know. Maybe I was just on fire and I've forgotten about it. It's possible. No, I don't think that would be it.

It's possible. I don't think you'd forget about being on fire. Happens so much these days that it's just like, oh God, which night are we talking about, you know? It just blurs into one continually successful gig. That's my life, bro.

That's my life. Life is like a gig that I'm just destroying. Oh, dude, I've got to share this with you. I have a new mantra for life, which I posted on Facebook. I don't know if you saw this, but on Kimmel?

No, no, no. On Fallon, Dave Chappelle was on there. Did you? Because my life's dope and I do dope shit. Yeah, bro. But you've just ruined the story because I was going to share it on the podcast and people were going to get the whole build-up and everything.

But now I can't. Well, it's pretty much... No, you have to provide context, otherwise it's just a sentence I said to go on. So Dave Chappelle is talking about the first time he met Kanye West, and this is before Kanye even had his first album out, but people knew that this guy thought he was the shit and he was just a cool dude hanging

around with rappers he was at the chapelle like studios or whatever and he was watching some of the shit that hadn't aired on tv yet and he got a phone call in the middle of them doing that little screening because he was with some people who dave knew and uh kanye picks up his phone and he goes yeah uh-huh nah nah i ain't doing that nah yeah i'm watching dave chapelle show that hasn't even aired yet no no i ain't doing it because my life is dope and i do dope shit it hangs up i like that you made kanye sound like he's like works down the boston docks as well yeah i don't have great American dynamics down. Hey, I ain't doing that. Hey, I'm Kanye West. Hey, I'm Kanye West over here.

Hey, guess what? George Bush doesn't like black people. Where's my coffee? Yeah. Hey, George Bush, why don't you like black people? George Bush don't care about black people. Hey, I'm married to a Kardashianardashian what can i say hey kim's giving me

some shtick in the bedroom oh hey kimmy baby come back no i love you oh god it's devolved into rodney dangerfield i think yeah no respect i get no respect from Kim these days No respect Take my wife No seriously Take her We've lost her Fucking hell We've actually lost her Dude

The absurdity of the situation Could barely be overstated Here we are Two young men in the prime of our life. Our mid-20s, we're out there. We're getting it done. We're comedians, mate. We're living dreams.

People go, Tim and Guy, you guys made it happen. I work in a bank and I dream about living the lives that you lead. And look at us, Guy. You're in London town. I'm here in central Auckland, one of the greatest cities in the world, on a Friday night. One of the greatest cities in the world.

And the thing that unites us is that we take time out every week. About two years ago, Adam Sandler said, hey, should we make another one of those grown-ups movies? I could use the cash. That is what unites us, is Adam Sandler waking up from a dream and being like, I want another helicopter.

Fuck you, Adam Sandler waking up from a dream and being like, I want another helicopter. Fuck you, Adam Sandler. You absolute cunt. I'm blaming you. A lot of people could blame us because Adam Sandler didn't make us watch the film 52 times. He didn't have a gun to our head to make us watch it even once. I think one of my favourite peculiarities is that it's like it was just chosen on a whim

there was no consideration for how the relationship with the movie would develop or the fact we were watching it 50 times it was like well we want to do this tomorrow so what should we do con air that's too good should we do grown-ups if we're gonna do grown-ups we'll do grown-ups too because it's worse no research nothing known about anything just like okay we'll just spend the rest of our life with that but dude that's a really important way to go through life like too many people overthink shit especially shit that's going to affect you sometimes you you got to go gutter people try to plan out things so much these days but don't think an unexpected child is loved any less now you sound like you sound like eric

lemon soft's mum what you might not know is that guy's quoting a bit in the movie right now and i got to quote a bit of the the girl who blew up at me on facebook yeah it's quite nice having that arsenal of grown-ups two quotes to to fall back on in any conversation i'm gonna i'm gonna and this this can probably close off the podcast pretty much but i'm gonna go through the actual exchange verbatim i can't pronounce the the punctuation though which is terrible she doesn't have any capitals at the start of her sentences if you give me a chance i'll find the post too and we can do a role play yeah i'll do you be the girl. I really should have blurred out her name. I feel bad that I didn't do that before I posted it up.

Because privacy. Shit. I don't want to start pitchfork shit. Alright. Here we go. A witch hunter is the word I was looking for. Whoa, this is a... Fuck you're a loser.

I'll play the role of... Of... Person who thinks it's good. This movie was hilarious. Better than even grown-ups. Am I missing something? And that sneeze wasn't in there. That was an ad-lib. Then I said, functioning discernment? WTF?

Maybe it's just the watching of it 20 times, but I have to say I'm not a fan. So, that does not make it not funny to others. Judge mental much? Well, the term overwhelming majority is thrown around a lot these days, but it does have a 7% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Wow! So that must make you right.

Bravo! Thank you. Thank God we have such great guides on these important journeys of what is deemed funny. Oh, are you going by the convo? I was looking at the screen grab. I didn't want to go any further than that. What happened after that?

She puts a personal attack on you. Oh, what'd she say? A comedian, you say? Never heard of you. Lack of discernment, me thinks. I is what I is. Dribble, dribble. It's like, I don't even know how the fuck you typed that.

She said that, and then, oh, and then I said, what did I say to her? I said something. Well, you said, I know it wasn't your intention, but the way you worded that made it sound like you haven't heard of me because of your lack of discernment. It's like the opposite of a backhanded compliment. Oh, and now you know what my intention was bravo and then you quote bravo look i think we hit some oh no no you've got to read the quote though because it was great don't say then you quote lenny fader what did i say i just closed

the tab you said something like um i said to quote lenny fader why don't we all go our separate ways i don't see any of these conversations working out for me. That is correct now Tim, I think the podcast hit some soaring highs today and some we plumbed the depths occasionally I've got to go, I'm meeting a friend for breakfast Mate, go, we're done, we're 25

minutes in, we need to get the fuck out of here, go live every moment, love every day or whatever the fuck REO Speedwagon say can't remember alright I'm Guy Montgomery I'm Tim Bat and this is torture

live every moment love every day yeah cause before you know it you're precious it's so awful live every moment love every day with your precious so awful