The Worst Idea Of All Time - Replay S01E23: IMDB

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

Please enjoy this victory lap of Season One episodes as we celebrate 10 years of The Worst Idea of All Time. New episodes posting on our Substack.Original Description:It's the middle of the night in New Zealand and Tim has to keep his voice down for fear of waking his flatmate, because Tim is one of two men who has to watch Grown Ups 2 again. The other is one Guy Montgomery, an intrepid ex-pat kiwi who's currently in Copenhagen.This week, flauting of rules results in Tim looking up the Internet Movie Database while the film is playing, to hilarious results. Guy's travels through Europe continue and Denmark sounds fabulous. The movie, on the other hand, still does not. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oh man, if you want to revisit season one of the worst idea of all time, when Tim just sounds so sick, like so audibly, nasally as a result of just so much snot and mucus being in my system, boy howdy, have you come to the right place, listener. This is episode 23, we're in, listener this is episode 23 we're in um let's refer to this as the uh the twisted time zone i wish it was a trilogy i think there's about five or six episodes where guy's traipsing around the world right now and uh the majority of the time i have to get up in the middle of the night so this is this is in that oeuvre i tell you what i might sound sick but i'm i'm happy to be there i'm happy to be learning more about the world um and through guy and his adventures and this outsider matt guy's friend i don't know a damn thing about matt i would love to know what matt's up to now i'm gonna ask

guy for a matt update um but is it yeah we've got a cute little episode here guys in copenhagen uh tim me from 10 years ago is in his auckland flat in the middle of the night quietly recording a little episode a man who refers to foley which is what movie audio is called is folio which is adorable And yeah look Just rip into it I reckon eh Listen to this episode As I intended Which is in the middle of the night Under the covers Unless it's too hot

With headphones in Like you're sneaking around Trying not to wake everyone up captain's log episode 20 guy what what episode are we up to Episode 20. Guy, what episode are we up to? 23, Tim. Captain's Log, episode 23. It's one in the morning local time in New Zealand,

and I've just seen Grown Ups 2 again with my friend Guy Montgomery via the internet who's currently in continental Europe. Guy, come in. I am in. I'm coming in. I'm coming to you live from Copenhagen. I'm coming in. I'm coming to you live from Copenhagen. It is currently 14.57 hours.

It's a sweltering sort of, I'd say it's pushing 30 outside. It's muggy. Is that 30C? Sweety. 30C? 30C. What kind of, if you had to guess the humidity, what range would you put it at? I'd put it over 50.

You're the captain of the ship. I'd put it over 50. We're co-captains. Yeah, we're both the captains of this ship. This is our vessel. I feel like this ship is going down. That was, for me, that was a bad, I know we probably say this every week, but that was after, in Berlin I was say it's every week but that was after like in berlin i was into it not today man dude i loved this watch and i'm not saying that in any facetious manner i got into

it this watch something happened for me okay tell me about it well you know how we've got our no phones rule while the movie's playing yeah i must admit i disregarded that for a portion of the film and i went on imdb which i'm surprised i hadn't done earlier to look at grown-ups too and um i found out that we've got way more knowledge about the film than imdb does and at some point you and me should go through and redraft the page because like even even the plot synopsis that they've got isn't correct what what what's inaccurate i'll just try and bring up the plot synopsis and the goofs that they've got in there are so low level like we've got way better goofs but they've got really odd specific ones wow all the diehard grown-ups to fans out there will be absolutely over the moon when they check

the imdb badge again to make sure someone's updated it and lo and behold we will have but boy will be heroes will their faces be red when they figure out that two muppets from new zealand schooled them schooled them on grown-ups do knowledge so here's the synopsis as it reads on imdb after moving his family back to his hometown to be with his friends and their kids lenny finds out that between old bullies new bullies schizo bus drivers drunk cops on skis and 400 costumed party crashes sometimes crazy follows you but there aren't even 400 costumed party crashes because the frat boys aren't in costume that's a really bad synopsis yeah oh yeah i was i actually watched the movie i'm staying at my friend matt's house and he watched it with me just now and about an hour and he kept checking how far into the movie we were and an hour and he said to me what's the plot of this movie

and i said what do you think a good sign an hour into a film and he and he said i don't think it has a plot and i said that is correct that is the plot you've won the game and like and then when i got to the party scene i was like this is the climax and he didn't say or do anything he was just like it just bounced off him like i don't give a fuck it's so fucking stupid i like spent about probably 20 minutes of that movie just with my eyes shut and I stumbled into the realisation I think

a way that I might be able to enjoy it would be if someone reanimated the whole thing so it wasn't a live action movie it was like a sort of like a

CGI not CGI like a toy story style animation I don't know what it would do to the movie it would just be

a nice change of face. Well maybe when you come back we'll get some mushrooms and it'll be as if it has been animated for your pleasure. Yeah man, we're going to need to do something big. Can I read you out a list of the plot keywords that IMDB has listed for grown-ups too? You can.

I think these are user submitted but in no particular order. Party, voyeurism, sexual desire. What? Who's living voyeurism? Where's the voyeurism? I'm not sure. I don't know.

I'm going to critique each word. So you say it and then I'm going to say what I think about it. Okay, cool. So I don't know where the voyeurism is. Sexual attraction. Yep. Yep. It's quite a lecherousism is. Sexual attraction. Yep, yep. It's quite a lecherous film. Lingerie.

Yep, that features. White. White panties. No, white panties. Who has... Oh, no. I wouldn't say it's a plot point, but you do see some white panties at one point at the car wash.

Reference to Nicki Minaj. What is this? I'm not kidding. Who's been taking the piss on this IMDb page? Three-word title. Man, we could do a really great overhaul. We could do the world a great service one of them is fisticuffs but um oh man dude i've got yeah sorry you go okay i actually right after the movie finished

before we started recording i quickly looked up grown-ups i've never done it before on wikipedia yeah to see because i i i finally reached breaking point you know when colin quinn does that big before we started recording, I quickly looked up grown-ups. I've never done it before on Wikipedia. Yeah. To see, because I finally reached breaking point. You know when Colin Quinn does that big motivational speech, he says, Lenny Fader went to Hollywood, made big bucks, probably more than you Brady-X will ever put together. And you've always said, I think that's unrealistic. Surely an army of university students,

cumulatively, will make more than Lenny Fader. I thought, but thought but i mean what was this lucrative career he had in hollywood yeah yeah do you want to guess what he was doing because this is i don't think i don't think i don't think he makes i don't think that that's accurate what colin was saying at all before you say what the career is i'd just like to point out that the reason we don't know is because despite the fact that we've seen Grown Ups 2 23 times, we've seen Grown Ups 1 no time. Zero time. Maybe that's what will kick life into the film. When I come back, I think we should do a double screening. I'm really, fuck, man, I'm so excited to watch this movie with you again,

like, in person. Yeah, I know. I'm finding it really hard not having you there. Like, honestly, I'm finding it so tough. This is a tough project that we're on mate and i'm calling it a project i don't know if that's an over ambitious description of what we've got ourselves into it's a con it's a constantly evolving beast but anyway so his career can i take a stab and then you tell me the right answer yeah was it soundtracking was

he a hollywood sound tracker for movies it's not lucrative i don't know what the pay is for that but i don't think that would be lucrative enough no he's not that i'll give you three guesses now too um a director of films no not a director of films a casting agent of movies getting warmer you keep going you're getting. That's it. You tell me. Well, I thought it was going to be a screenwriter. I don't know why. He was a talent agent. He was a top Hollywood talent agent.

That's basically what I said. You said casting. What's the difference? Well, casting agent makes it sound like he's in charge of casting films. A talent agent makes it sound like he's in charge of casting films a talent agent makes it sound like he's in charge of the talent touche monty touche um an airtight argument i'm throwing at you absolutely so how like does it kind of reference how rich he was like how much money did he not it doesn't and i found out so much information i pretty much read the whole plot i actually read the plot but but they all reunite.

There were five in the first one. Rob Schneider was like the same level as the others in the first one. Rob Schneider turned his nose up at the second one. And they won a basketball tournament in 1978, that team. So Chris Rock, Kevin James, David Spade, Adam Sandler, and Rob Schneider. And their coach died. And so they all reunited at Lakehouse to mourn the coach

and then they all learnt heaps about themselves and their families and it had Norm Macdonald in the first movie and someone else and they lost a lot of good people out there in between grown ups Schneider's a great man there's no getting around it.

Well, you know, it's a weird feeling. You know he's Buddhist, eh? He's hardcore Buddhist. I've interviewed him once, long form, for like 20 minutes. Was he a good guy? He's kind of weird, to be honest. He's pretty freaky, but he's nice enough. But all of his answers were very kind of rote-learned and pre-formed from chat shows that he does.

I listened to his WTF podcast with Marc Maron. I thought it was great. Oh, I've missed that one. I haven't heard that. He used to be a dynamite stand-up, apparently, and I actually used to watch his movies. I've watched The Hot Chick and The Animal more than once. Don't forget Home Alone 2, mate.

No one has ever played a hotel concierge like Rob Schneider. But it's not his movie, Home Alone 2. That's Macaulay Culkin's. Well, he's a scene stealer, so it pretty much is his movie, I think you'll find. That would make this John Lovitz's movie that we just watched.

Correct. Or the baby's movie. Do you want to do your shining lights? Yeah, bro. It was the folio in the bus at the start. The folio? Yeah, the background sound of the kids. I thought it was very accurate.

You thought that's what a bus sounds like? Well, I'm wearing headphones for the watch this week to keep the noise down because it's the middle of the night and I've got flatmates. So the sound was very important for me. And I went, shit, that's some good folio on that bus scene. That really does sound like teenagers on a bus. That's good.

How about you? Mine was... on that bus scene that really does sound like teenagers on a bus that's good how about mine was it was actually it was a moment where chris rock did some really good acting because he doesn't do a lot of that in this movie uh he was pouring the you know how when he when he when his wife forgets their 20th anniversary and and he's like i'm gonna go full gangster i'm gonna have all this pepsi at dinner and then so there's that shot of him at the dinner scene and he's like i'm gonna go full gangsta i'm gonna have all this pepsi at dinner and then so there's that shot of him at the dinner scene and he's pouring two cans of pepsi into a pitcher and he's smiling the the direction was obviously i want you to really like convey how happy you are to be eating not eating having this pepsi at dinner and he's got this look on his face, which is just, it's so on the fucking nose

for how happy he, you know, given the information we've received earlier in the film, he is to have the Pepsi. I would describe the look on his face, because I know it well, having seen the movie once or twice now, is childlike delight. Like when you're a kid and you get something

that you really have a hankering for, like ice cream. It was pure glee and I sort of I wanted to reach through the screen and pat him on the back I can just like the whole

after the take the director would have gone that's a bye we've done it I like to think maybe that was the last scene they shot and he goes

that's a wrap everyone and Chris Rock's like thank fucking god because I had some fun on some days of this movie. But just quietly between you and me, Dennis. Dennis is the name of the director. I think this might be a dud. But oh how wrong you are.

Yeah. Imaginary Chris Rock. Because the movie went on to make millions, tens of millions of dollars. Hundreds of millions of dollars. Tens of millions. Hundreds. Hundreds of millions of dollars. Tens of millions. Hundreds. The budget was 80. They made 230 million, didn't they?

Oh, shit. Yeah, maybe you're right. Yeah, I'll check that at some point. I feel like that's right. Hey, listen. I've stumbled onto something on this watch, guy. And this is part of the reason why I'm so excited about it. Because I started really getting in there.

So I'm really digging around. And I've discovered that Adam Sandler has hidden in plain sight a metaphor, a recurring motif, which is about his life within the confines of the film. Now, you'll notice that a lot of people hit the water really hard in this movie. hit the water really hard in this movie. There's the Taylor Lautner scene, the initial scene with the frat boys, where all of our main characters have to strip naked and throw themselves off Suicide 35, and they all hit the water hard.

Suicide 35 off the top rock. 35 feet. My mum did that jump when she was pregnant with me. That's it. That's the one. So they all have to jump off, and they all hit the water very hard in different ways. And then at the end of the film,

two more people hit the water really hard, Officer Dante and Shaq. And all of them, if you'll notice, flop onto the water. And it made me think that it's a metaphor for all the shit films Adam Sandler's done, which have been critical flops and some of them commercial flops and how they hurt him.

But the last thing that we see related to this is Shaq who pees in the water and just kind of accepts it and feels really good about it and I feel like that's a symbol for Adam Sandler just being okay with the fact that his movies suck now. So Shaq is, but Shaq embodies this realization I tell you what he's like the final stage of it it's interesting to hear I'd say it's definitely something you wouldn't find before the 23rd watch it's something that hasn't occurred to me I um the good thing about having Matt watch the movie with me was just seeing him, the occasional guffaw,

a genuine guffaw at certain moments. He laughed when the baby goes, oh, that's cold, which sort of made me realise that that is actually funny because James Acaster thought that was a good bit too. Oh yeah, I did see it the first time because it's so unexpected that a kid that small could deliver a line so well yeah another thing which made the movie slightly more

tolerable um is i've i took i took something called snus have you heard of snus before tim is it a drug guy in a sense it's tobacco um it's a it's a scandinavian i think it's swedish they they give you tobacco in these little pouches it's a little pouch i'm holding one up on screen now you can't see it at home but tim you can see that little pouch so yeah it's very small it's about the size of your thumb you put it between your gum and your um and your and your lip and it sort of gives a slow release of tobacco it stings quite a lot at first but it becomes very relaxing and so I've just put one in

so I might become slightly more relaxed through the second part of this what are you doing bro? I'm just getting by I'm just trying to get through a day, I want a holiday you've resorted to tobacco abuse, nicotine addiction to get you through the podcast, mate. No.

Well, yes, I guess. In a sense. But only while I'm here in Denmark. And by the way, Denmark's beautiful, if you're curious. I was. And thank you. Yeah, now you go. Now you go.

Tell me about Copenhagen. Tell me about your beautiful paradise holiday. Well, it's funny because it is genuinely a beautiful paradise holiday, but you only get to see me at my lowest ebb. So it sounds like it's ringing hollow when I tell you how much I like it because it always comes on the back of watching this fucking movie. Don't get me wrong. It's not that I don't believe you, it's that I'm insanely jealous that you're in Europe

and I'm in the middle of a greyland flat, freezing cold at night under the duvets watching grown-ups turn a 100-inch screen by myself. Yeah, I was really pleased that you wanted to do it. I was impressed, actually, that you did it this late. I did it for the people. Do you think doing it this late at night will impact your watching?

You know how your brain sort of changes? It's going to impact work that I've got tomorrow morning at 9am. I don't give a fuck about your work. I know you don't. Because you know late at night your brain goes kind of loopy. You've got a different brain from what you do during the day. Definitely. Do you think that contributed to your happiness?

Oh definitely, absolutely. Can I read you some of the gaffes that they've put on IMDb? Like, they're ludicrous. They're ludicrous. You can do this. Have we noticed them before? Some of them, no. But this is the first one. The first time Kurt, and first of all, they call him Kurt, a name which Chris Rock is never given in the film,

if it's taken in isolation away from the first one. So it starts, The first time Kurt drives the Ford van, it makes the starter and transmission sounds of a Dodge Caravan. The second time, the exhaust sounds like a four-cylinder engine, even though the van has eight cylinders. Well, I noticed that. I just didn't think it was worth bringing up it is so deep and that is the first one that's the first area that's on there other ones include um apparently shaq's radio on his shoulder during the first encounter swap sites i would have liked i would have liked to have noticed that one organically without the help

of the internet this is my favorite one bro this's so good. The title belt worn by a quote-unquote Hulk Hogan at the 80s party was in fact the WCW world title known as the Big Gold Belt. This would not have been the belt worn by Hogan in that time period as he was the WWF champ and their world title was the famous Winged Eagle. So they got the belt wrong on the costume on the lady coming as hulk wogan

that could be a very specific sort of character facet to that that lady that maybe she got it wrong not so the movie didn't get it wrong but the characters in the movie got it wrong so i think we should probably if we do get our fingers in there on the same imdb page and make some changes i think we should delete that goof. Fair enough. Because that was probably, I feel like this movie was approached with the care and detail

that that was an important character point. Tell you what they don't have on there listed under continuity is your great raft call that the raft changes in many shots. The raft is a hot mess right throughout. Certainly is. They never really got a good grip on the continuity to do with that raft.

And the other one for me, a biggie, is the school bus stops outside the window when Nick flies into that small shop building thing. You can see it. It's ground to a halt, which is physically impossible at that kind of speed. Wow. Is it? Yeah. Maybe it's just got good halt, which is physically impossible at that kind of speed. Why? Is that, is it? Yeah.

Maybe it's just got good brakes. No, no. It's like completely stationary directly outside where he skipped out. It cannot be done, mate. Because I've never noticed that as a flaw in the movie. I'm so absorbed in Nick's roly-poly. And you would be.

And you would be. I'll tell you what as well, man. I know that we say a lot about how shit the background fighting is in the party scene, but I saw stuff tonight that I'd never seen before. Like, there's so many people who someone walks up to someone and grabs their hand to put on their head to grab their hair. And, like, just just it's so shit man there's some really bad stuff going on when we were walking um back to the apartment yesterday we walked past a bar on the street here that they were shooting some sort of music video

um like there were a whole lot of sort of young people who looked like that we walked past got it to go to breakfast and then a couple of hours later when we were walking back they were on break. And Matt made the good point that he'd love to be doing a music video just to see, like after ten takes, they have to provide the same energy and excitement as though they're just getting to the party or the party's still popping off even though the people who are acting like the party's going well are exhausted. And I think this is the exact problem we ran into with that fight scene because there's so much fighting to choreograph and i assume i mean they're actors but they might

not have gone to the fight training and so i guess it just took so long that the people were just so fucking tired and dennis dugan was so tired and they just wanted to shoot that chris rock scene so they could wrap the whole film i love that you've now attributed that as being the last thing that they shot because it was kind of good it was the last thing i really remember yeah i've got nothing left to say about this movie right now guy montgomery i don't know how much more can be said about grown-ups too but we'd better think of something because we've got another how many almost 30 29 episodes hey that feels nice we've dipped under the ominous up 30 views to go next stop 50 complete mate but um as i think we may have brought up in the last podcast it's going to get progressively harder each time so

like 50 isn't 50 because the more we watch it the harder this gets 50 will be at about 70 done i think we should um start counting backwards so i i think 20 goes i've said this before i say it again we get up to 26 and then we go 26 25 cool 24 because then it's sort of it's counting down to freedom freedom i was all right this time but i'm i'm i'm really fucking worried about the next one really worried well i'm gonna have to watch this because we've still got one one o So I'm going to have to watch this Twice or thrice in Copenhagen It's a crying shame Danish people are so good looking

Holy shit yeah All the dudes and all the ladies Are all just attractive That's good They're fucking tall eh And everything runs well here This is a great... They've figured a lot of stuff out here in Denmark.

Do you know it was voted the most livable city, Copenhagen? Two years running, according to some survey. So what's the downside? It's also been the best cycling city for the last three years. They've got these huge cycle lanes on the side of the road, which are almost the size of a road. Just populated by these attractive cycling beauties.

Yeah, they all take really good care of themselves. The downside, I don't know, the downside I suppose would, I mean, in theory, you'd probably say it's the winter. It gets dark, sort of very, it's always dark pretty much. Taxes? Taxes high there? Is it expensive living?

Taxes are high, but everyone's getting the benefits. Health care for one and all. You're a commie guy. That's why you're loving Copenhagen. You're home. You're home in your Marxist paradise. You've found it. I am.

I'd live here happily. In fact, I'm leaving this podcast. I'm going to go out into the street. We should all leave. I should go to bed. You should go to Copenhagen. Why don't we all go our separate ways? I don't see any of these conversations working out for me.

Alright, mate. I'll see you at the next watch. Pray for us. Okay. God. Love every day Cause before you know it Your precious time slips away Build every moment