The Worst Idea Of All Time - Replay S01E33: Lambourne

Episode Date: March 16, 2024

Please enjoy this victory lap of Season One episodes as we celebrate 10 years of The Worst Idea of All Time. New episodes posting on our Substack.Original Description:Tim Lambourne, New Zealand television and radio personality joins Guy and Tim for a lovely wee watch of the pearl of a film, Grown Ups 2. Lambo shares his stories of American frat boys, Guy notices an amazing post-production edit to mask a big muck up and Tim delves into the potential use of a little person used as a stand in for one of Sandler's kids.Most importantly, the boys delve into the recently announced four movie deal Sandler has struck with Netflix and suffice to say, they're not happy about it. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Go back to school with Rogers and get Canada's fastest and most reliable internet. Perfect for streaming lectures all day or binging TV shows all night. Save up to $20 per month on Rogers internet. Visit rogers.com for details. We got you. Rogers. Hey, well, this is nice. Tim Lamborn joins us in this episode and he is a man who every now and then he absolutely pops

into my head I don't I haven't seen him in a good long while I'd love to see him I'd love to see him if he's floating about but he's a man who occupies a special place in my brain and heart and I often think to myself I wonder what Tim Lambourne's up to at the moment I wonder where in the world that man is he's an intrepid. He's an interesting man who leads a fascinating and quite fantastic life. And we talked to him 10 years ago. We sat him in front of the movie and this is a recording of that conversation. Just a delight. So Tim Lamborn, we didn't explain this in the episode, but to give you some background, this is the episode but to give you some background this is the guy that guy montgomery was co-hosting the tv show with when guy and i met so i came on doing a segment once a week but every

night those two were presenting i think like three hours of television monday to friday live broadcast truly live broadcast so um thick as thieves these two they've got their rhythm they love each other they're good mates and uh it's also kind of what i like about this episode really gives you the vibe of being in a flat or a share house depending on what part of the world you're in you you can hear it you can hear the people in there you can hear the sort of terrible sound quality of a reverberating uninsulated high ceiling probably moldy grayland flat that we're all in and it's just a nice nostalgic feeling to be back in that flat whichever one it was i actually don't remember but you know the spiritual idea of a flat i think is recorded very nicely in this episode so this was a nice

listen hey we're not high as balls anymore so that's um i'm glad we got ourselves out of that hole and sorted ourselves out and yeah i hope you enjoy this nice embrace of three mates having a chat in a flat about grown-ups too. Original, quite directional. Be of your precious time, slip us away Be of your precious time Directional, I like my directional Hello and welcome to episode 33 of the worst idea of all time with myself, Timothy Andrew Batt Me, Guy Alexander Halifax Montgomery And a very, very hesitant Timothy Parco Lambourne Welcome along Timothy Parco Thank you, it's so informal, the starting

I've got a boost If you're listening at home, you're like, what's, what's. Thank you. It's so informal, the starting. I've got to boost... We're in a lounge. If you're listening at home, you're like, what's it like? Where do they do it? Don't pull back the curtain. I'm going for it. I've got to boost your volume, but I don't know how, Lamborn. This is so hard. Yes.

Okay. Lamborn, how are you feeling? Immediately. Let's get your first initial thoughts. The movie's just ended. We've seen it for 33 times. You've seen it for one time. This was my first time.

And I knew, obviously obviously You know that it's Going to be real bad But it's really Upsettingly bad Just And I'll get I'll get to why I'll get to the greater

Themes of why I think you're overreacting Is that not the point? Do you not want Do you want emotion? I want I just want you to sort of Just amble through this thing

Middle of the road I don't want any impassion Like a half committed boyfriend yeah okay it was fine you were you were reluctant weren't you i was very very reluctant you didn't want to be here well you wanted to be here this you want to do the podcast you were like safe environment you tried briefly i saw when we said you want to do it there was a flash that came over your eyes like what can i make up that will get me out of having to watch the movie but I'd already said to Guy like 10 minutes before

you suggested that I had nothing to do so I couldn't straight lie we pinned him down and we dragged him into the lounge and we put the movie on and we taped his eyelids to the top of his head and he cried and he cried

and he threw up on himself he's covered in vomit the man smells it's disgusting vomit there's a recurring theme the worst bit the worst bit is as well

Is that he vomited really early on And that sort of curdled on his shirt Didn't let him get up Because he has to watch the whole thing No He's just sitting in a puddle of his own spew There's no phones on And there's no moving while the movie's rolling

I do want to address any listeners Who think that it's not taken seriously Those rules are enforced Very very seriously I thought I could maybe do some tweeting Some Instagramming, just to pass the 90 minutes. No.

Actually, 100 over 90, but you can't. They mean it. We mean business, bucko. That's weird. We didn't get to where we are today by skirting the rules. No. There's strict rules in place for a reason. Guy, we've got so many segments now that I want to dive right into some of them.

Is that? We're really pulling this thing up, aren't we? Yeah, we are. It's bursting at the seams. In fact, I want to kick off with the one that's got the best theme song. Okay. So here it comes. Two, three, four.

Paddy Schwartz, party time. It's Paddy Schwartz, party time. It's party time with Paddy Schwartz party time. It's party time. With Paddy Schwartz. All right, Tim. Now, you know the segment. Our listeners know the segment. Paddy Schwartz is in the movie.

Patrick Schwarzenegger, Arnold Schwarzenegger's son, for about four scenes, and he is a scene stealer. God, he's good. He's a party machine. You were watching him with special attention. I was.

We told you to. You did. What have you got for us? I think it's his second to last scene, his penultimate scene, to use the movie reviewer's word. And it is him in a short-sleeved, stripy, button-down shirt.

That's not the scene stealer. It's the shell necklace. There is a pure white shell necklace that he is rocking with a couple of buttons undone. Poker shell? Is that what they're called? Poker shell necklace? We've got quite a few people in the lounge with us as well.

We do have a studio audience. Guy, poker necklace? Is that what they're called? Yes. Yeah? It was as much as Paddy Schwartz is a scene stealer. That's Nick, by the way, who you'll hear in the background, who you might remember from episode 29 as the snoring gent.

Prawn salad. He's awake now. He's been asleep until now. Sorry, you were saying, Tim. No, mostly that the shell necklace, there's not enough of it in New Zealand. I feel it was a real late 90s, early 2000s trend and it hasn't come back

and maybe Paddy Schwartz can be the man to do that. Well, if anyone could do it, I mean, Paddy Schwartz is a good guy. He'd put his hand up. Hey, put the necklace on my shoulders. I'll carry it back into fashion. For me, it was a throwback to Belle on Home and Away. She always used to wear those choker necklaces.

Was that the one who joined the cult? Hard to say. Cassie, no, that was Cassie. It's probably alienating a few American listeners there. Oh, yeah, American. We now have more people listening from the States than we do in our home country. Is that a thing?

Yeah. I wouldn't say big. And we just want to let you know, Home and Away is an Australian-based soap opera that's thing? Yeah. I wouldn't say big. And we just want to let you know, Home and Away is an Australian-based soap opera that's huge down here. Kit, Kit, Kit. Thor. Thor was on Home and Away.

Yes. That's your connection there? Yeah, yeah. Old Hemsworth. The Hemsworth boys. Is he with Miley Cyrus? He was with Miley Cyrus. I think they were and then they no longer.

What a turn up for the episode. America. It's not often that we make it, like people from New Zealand and Australia make it, but well, not so much New Zealand, but certainly Australia is. You mean New Zealanders don't often make it big. New Zealanders don't make it big in America. Australians occasionally do. Two brothers, the same family, the Hemsworth brothers, destroying Hollywood.

That's so cool. It must be a nightmare for their parents, old friends to have dinner with those guys. Oh yeah. So, how's Angela getting on with her Bachelor of Arts? She was shrugging a while there. She took a semester off. Oh well Chris and Liam are doing very well in Hollywood.

You know my boy Chris one of them's fucking Miley Cyrus. That girl from the television. Is Angela fucking anyone famous? Meanwhile Angela's got a B In her art history exam I mean she hooked up with Eric Banner One night

He was always off set Like the part in that Eric Banner's actually Yeah he's killing it You wouldn't be unhappy with that I was talking about Okay this is another Adam Sandler film Funny People

Yeah Eric Banner Is a comedic revelation in that film You know he plays Leslie Mann's husband. You know. Cameron Diaz. Oh, that's my girl. I love that movie.

So funny. At least shit my panties. This boyfriend here. Oh, it's so funny. It was like, yes. And it was like, yeah, but there's not many times you meet someone as beautiful and lovely and talented as whatever the Leslie Mann's character's name is and then

everyone's like yes but Cameron Diaz fuck you know how the story goes with that role as well he was supposed to be like kind of a

maybe a high-flying Wall Street American jock and he pitched to Judd Apatow Eric Bannon was like nah I reckon we can make it funnier and he pitched to

Dickhead Ozzy well his first movie role was in The Castle which guy is he I'm so lost with you guys right now I'm not even on the same page as you two I can only imagine what people there'll be a lot of people listening

who are with you guys I'm not one of them I'm listening to you two what are you talking about Eric Banner we're talking about Eric Banner which one is he on in the castle

the hot daughter's boyfriend who does all the kickboxing. He talks about the movies. I saw the part we saw. What was it? And Jumanji. Yeah, yeah. And what's the tornado one? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The Hulk. Twister. One of the Hulks. Twister, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know who he is. I didn't know what you were talking about. I zoned out.

Have you seen Munich? Munich is amazing. Tim, you're reviewing all the wrong movies. Yeah, let's bring you back. Let's bring you back in. We've done Taylor Schwartz party time. You know what we've got to talk about, man, before I forget? That Netflix has just signed a four-movie deal with Adam Sandler.

That's right. This is insane. This is big news. Just as a quick aside to that, I also love that the worst thing I've ever seen on a Facebook page is becoming the de facto dumping place for any Adam Sandler-related news. We're a clearinghouse for Sandler info. If you want all your Adam Sandler news, go there first.

We've actually stumbled into becoming Adam Sandler's premier news source. So Netflix started just being a distribution channel online for different shows and movies and things, and now they've ventured into their own production house, House of Cards, of course. Fantastic show. Emmy award winning. And they've just decided that they're going to sign

a four movie deal with Adam Sandler. I know. I mean, you've got to say, it's probably the first misstep Netflix has publicly made. Shit, yeah, man. Because Orange is New Black, that's Netflix. That is, yeah, that's a Netflix original series. Is it good?

I haven't watched it yet. Oh, man. How's Jason Biggs? Is he good? Yeah, Jason Biggs is good. No shit? Yeah, but the thing is... There's Biggs in it. Is it good? Oh, man. How's Jason Biggs? Is he relevant? Is he good? Yeah, Jason Biggs is good. No shit? Yeah, but the thing is...

There's Biggs in it? Yeah, yeah. From American Pie? Yeah. What the fuck? Speaking of irrelevant 90s comedians who shouldn't be reviewed every week for 53 weeks. He's very good in that show.

He's back, baby. I think for me, this Netflix deal, this is Adam Sandler's last cash grab. I mean, his stock is falling. Did you hear the quote that's in the press release for it? No. He says, I signed up to this deal for one reason and one reason only. Because Netflix rhymes with wet chicks.

Yes, I did see that. You fucking goober, man. That's the thing he actually said. You absolute piece of shit. Not only did he say it, but he approved that to go out to All In Sundry as the press release celebrating the moment. He just wanted to lower expectations right off the bat. How could you lower them from grown ups

too by coming out with Netflix rhymes with wet chips it's not even spelt yeah it does rhyme but like well I mean

it doesn't have to in fairness to Adam it doesn't have to spell don't you dare be fair to Adam Sandler at this point in the game this is not the time

or place this is not the forum yeah fuck that guy And fuck Netflix For falling into that I mean I am I'm interested to see There's also a quote

From like the executive That signed it off Saying like Everybody loves Adam Sandler's movies No Everyone loved Adam Sandler's movies

He's going through That serious patch In his career now And he's doing He's in a movie Called The Cobbler About some guy Who cobbles shoes

In New York And another He did Punch Drunk Love he's ventured into the kind of art slightly artier side he didn't have to do anything shit

after Funny People it was done he could do good shit from there on out he crushed it with Funny People he didn't have to do Grown Ups 2

he bought Goodwill because his character was semi-autobiographical in Funny People and so everyone sort of related to the ascent and descent of a career and then they went oh i'm back in the game bitches that's so disingenuous though because it

was like here's me here's me bearing my soul this is a brand new chapter of honesty for me and then like nah just kidding i'm gonna grab another 180 million dollars on a shitty film who's saying these aren't honest films? Well he's saying Netflix wet chicks maybe it is autobiographical Tim I'm going to be honest with you you took about 12 or 13 nights during the movie

yeah I took some heavy nights we have burned a lot of minutes right off the top oh god have we what I mean we've got stuff all this talk of home and away and poker shell necklaces

yeah yeah I mean yeah you know you welcome someone in with open arms to the podcast okay I want to I've got a bigger concept

I guess I'll say that for later that's how you do it isn't it narrative wise mate however you do it is the way that we do it a couple of things I wanna some notes I've got here

just verbatim so sad full stop can't remember when I wrote that but it's the third thing I wrote it's relevant to the entirety of the film fraternity life

what I will say for their verisimilitude they nailed fraternity life now I don't want to blow my own horn here hold the fine hold the fine say, for their verisimilitude, they nailed fraternity life. Now, I don't want to blow my own horn here. Hold the fine. Hold the fine. Did you just say the word similitude?

Verisimilitude. What does that mean? It means reality, like truthfulness. Wow, that's good. When you've got strong verisimilitude, you're truthful to who you are. So like, it's an important word for acting. It's a $2 word, man. It's a theatre word, yeah. Is it really?

What's the real, how do you use it in theatre? Is it like from veracity? The verisimilitude of the play of the piece yes right anyway as you were so the verisimilitude of the fraternity lifestyle apart from the mass mob murder kill kill kill thing which i'm sure everyone listening is very familiar with uh frat life is as ridiculous as they portrayed it if not more so like that could be apart from the kill kill kill downplayed from Frat Life. And I spent a semester in a fraternity

in Missouri. And it really is more cliché than the films. I can't say any more clear than that. Wow. They are worse than what you see on movies. And by worse, I mean better, but also worse. Guy, you look disgusted and confused.

No, no, they're hamming that up. No hamming. The fraternity the fraternity there's a full scale fight remove remove okay remove the

fight no don't remove the fight remove the kill kill kill mob yeah it's it's all there it's all there

yeah it really is I've just seen it like this is where were you Missouri what city in Missouri do a

shout out to Columbia shout out to Columbia Missouri spring 09 SIGGAP we roll hard that was Missouri what city in Missouri do a shout out to the frat shout out to Columbia, Missouri Spring 09 Sigip we roll hard that was South

what's their team up the the Tigers go Tigers go you Tigers go Tigers top 25 this is all America

they'll get yeah hello top 25 Missouri you know go Tigers 409 Sigma Phi Epsilon

Missouri Alpha Chapter it's all there everything you see fraternity based is just exactly well this is based in Connecticut in is just exactly in the more intense states.

Obviously in your upmarket New York fraternities, they're probably a little more civilised, but in Midwest America... This dovetails nicely onto my shining light, which I'll cram in in the interest of time, which is the four bros when Taylor Lautner goes, oh no, is it Taylor who says it? We've got a situation here?

We've got a situation! We've got a situation! Yeah, that's right, it's who says it? We've got a situation here. We've got a situation. We've got a situation. Yeah, that's right. It's the blonde dude. We've got a situation here. And then there's kind of a wolf whistly scream kind of thing that comes out. And then there's a shot to four dude bromans, as I would call them. Just your archetypal knuckle dragging frat dudes.

It's an archetype for a reason, man. And they're like, they're linking arms drinking beers. Like you would do at a wedding, you know, with your wife. Okay, you both have the champagne but they're doing it with the beers. I've seen that. Guzzling and they just they're fucking drongo. Like they're such parodies of humans. But you're

telling me, Lamboyan. It's not a parody. That's amazing. You've just changed the whole tone of this episode of the podcast from the movie to, this is like, I'm questioning fraternity life at large. I'm questioning the world. Little dill weeds. Ding dongs.

Ding bats. What have you seen of fraternities in films that has made you to believe anything other than that? Pretty sure in the social network they were all pretty great people. Rich people, sure. Look, I don't know why I thought it was good. The Winklevices, I'm pretty sure they were in a fray. I just feel like the plural. The plural is Winklevi. The world of the movie is so heightened and everything is so ridiculous like halfway through

you're like this is one day you're freaking out this all takes place in one day so i think to to to draw a direct parallel between characters in the movie and reality is is insane and and maybe is this opening up is this changing how you view the movie? Well yeah, because my fear now is I haven't been to America except briefly through LAX when I went to Mexico once. So maybe the whole movie is an accurate representation

of a country I've never spent time in. You know? Is that a possibility? I haven't lived in Connecticut for one day so I can't speak to that. But the frat thing,

they really nailed it. And any new American listeners you guys do on Twitter, just confirm it. It really is that cliche. It's awesome. I forgot what it was. Guy, do you have a shining light? Shining light of the film?

Yeah, it was Keithy's T-shirt when he's learning to kick field goals on the football field. It says, train hard, win easy. And to anyone out there chasing a career or a dream, train hard hard win easy and uh and to anyone out there you know chasing a career or a dream train hard win easy takes a lot of effort to look effortless and i thought that was really inspiring you know you know if you the harder you work the luckier you get that's right similar similar make your own luck make your own luck and and on that um scene as well uh with lamborn did you notice this oh sorry Monty there's a

there's a goddamn we've established pretty confidently that there's a goddamn body double for Keithy and it might be a midget we're pretty sure they dressed up a midget

to look like him when we rewinded which we did as a child yeah it's different body shapes and sorry I don't want to say midget

little person I apologise I'm pretty sure that they've hired a little person who's really good at kicking to be a stand up they cheat all the other shots I don't want to say midget, little person. I apologise. I'm pretty sure that they've hired a little person who's really good at kicking to be a stand-in. They cheat all the other shots. I don't know why they just cheat this one as well.

It's bizarre. And speaking of other issues, like... Continuity. Oh, this is a big one. You guys got buck wild over this. Oh, God, this is a goodie. So you... It's a very specific...

Take your time. You're like, how do I get into this? Take a break. there's a very specific obviously a lot of it takes time you're like how do I get into this so

so Brayden Higgins son of David David Spade he goes to the quarry after after school

with the boys to sort of have a good time to celebrate the arrival of summer and he sees his dad when he's at the quarry his dad's forced to jump into the water by the accurately depicted frat boys

and on his arm there's a tattoo which he shows after he sees David Spade and it says soup kitchen my ass and Tim and I

we've always wondered just quickly in reference to what what does that mean it's because David Spade claims that he can't spend the day with his son when he first gets off

the train after the back of a phone call where he realises he has a son but no additional information he makes up the excuse I'd love to spend the day with you

but I'm volunteering at the soup kitchen today that's correct anyway but before information he makes up the excuse i'd love to spend the day with you yeah but i've got a i'm volunteering at the soup kitchen today that's correct uh anyway and but before before we even see david spade at the quarry so earlier in that same scene when when they arrive and before braden higgins jumps out of the water to celebrate the arrival of summertime there is a tattoo on his arm the same tattoo which says soup kitchen my ass which they obviously found out in post-production and they did a really bad job of a blur over it like you know when there's a logo on screen that they don't want you to see which is not the case in this film they're like pixelated out kind of their front center or i like when extras in pornography scenes don't want to be identified they just um put the blur over yeah

it's a very example yep i've watched a lot of porno with extras blurred out. We just want to know pornography in that case, I guess. But anyway. Well, no, I wouldn't say that. They blurred out. They obviously found out they made an error. I've watched two things. Pornography and grown-ups too. That's me.

That's my life. It's a Monday. It's a tough day for everyone. We've all pause we'll have their trinkets um anyway it's blurred out you sort of really undercut the excitement of my continuity area that i found so it's it's okay what they've done is it's written on his arm and revealed on camera before it should have been. And so they've had to blur it out in post-production. I'm amazed that anyone bothered to notice it, to be honest. You mean anyone in post-production?

In the editing suite. But then they didn't care enough to do a good blur. So you're right, good on them for noticing. But in fairness, this is only the third time we've watched it. And it's the first time we've noticed that. So, I mean, you can see why they thought they could maybe get away with a cheap lure. You have to dig deep to find this kind of gold. Yeah, there was...

I got pretty barred up for a second when I thought that they were mispronouncing the name of the fraternity relative to what the teacher said. Well, that might be true. Because they only say it once. I'm coming in hot with this fraternity Because is there H in the Greek alphabet? Is there a letter H? Because it's something H sigma I had to learn the Greek alphabet

They forced you to learn the Greek alphabet It's a good thing about a fraternity It's been five years, it's all gone We've got two people in the place Not enough for the one time it's relevant though Does H feature in the Greek alphabet? Hydra. You two?

I think it does. They think it does. One of them reckons yes. Let's not get bogged down. One of them reckons don't know. Hydra. H. Yes.

It does? Okay, that's good. That's good. That's good. That settles that. And now we know. People think maybe there's an H in the Greek alphabet. Hater.

Hater. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need to get into the Steve Buscemi mystery tour. We do. I haven't thought of anything. Oh, haven't you? Because we were going to throw this onto you today, Lambert. No, you don't have to.

You just do it on the fly, all right? So Steve Buscemi, as we know, he's injured in the first movie. He complains about what the injury did to him in the second movie to Chris Rock. And the Steve Buscemi mystery tour, which is coming to take you away is right now and Tim it's your job to speculate onto what caused this very specific injury to Steve Buscemi in the movie Grown Ups. I think that a previous Steve Buscemi character from a Happy Madison film of course you remember the sniper from Billy Madison one of Steve Buscemi's best crossover phenomenal character very quirky maybe in a kind of

a movie that was shot but was never made which happens a lot in Hollywood they shoot movies they never made and it was a football fuck no

because I did the water boy what's the problem here the problem is that in the water boy which Steve Buscemi may or may not have been in

maybe he shot a scene that never made it to air he makes a good double high five reference for Billy Boucher, the water boy. And then Billy Boucher is about to run and like high five him and he high fives him so hard

that his hands are stuck up there. Oh my God. Like a double high five. And so your theory is that all of the Happy Madison films take place in the same universe. It's like the Kevin Smith thing with Jay and Silent Bob.

And it's like the Pixar theory that all of the Pixar movies exist in the same universe.'s like the Kevin Smith thing with Jay and Silent Bob and it's like the Pixar theory that all of the Pixar movies exist in the same universe you're saying Happy Madison's operating on the same level as Pixar it's at that level

can that possibly work though because Adam Sandler's always front and center and being different characters unless he's got like some sort of limited amnesia no no no

do you know what he's going to do in his career he's going to do a movie where he uses all of the main characters he's created in other films and puts them in the same film like Eddie Murphy with the Nutty Professor he did that Jack and Jill. He's going to do a movie where he uses all of the main characters he's created in other films and puts them in the same film.

A lot like Eddie Murphy with the Nutty Professor. He did that. Jack and Jill. No, he's going to do it with his own favourites. He's going to dust off all your favourites. Here comes Billy. Billy Madison. Bobby Boucher.

Oh, wow. It'll be like a WWE WrestleMania style event. Do we just figure out why grown-ups too? We can just figure out what the four film deal with Netflix is. It's Sandlamania. Get ready, motherfuckers. Sandlomania parts one to four. Holy shit.

What a genius. Well, I'll tell you what. Remember that Netflix wet flicks joke he made? It was so good. I'll bet that he hasn't even thought of what the four films are now, and this is going to get back to him, and he'll be like, yep, that'll do. God, I hope so.

Adam, if you are listening, please fly us over to LA. This is something we're desperate to do. We've got lots of ideas for you. We really want to be there for episode 52. We want to watch it in Hollywood. Can I speak to some more verisimilitude? Please. The children, the fictional children of Adam Sandler and Salma Hayek

are the perfect hybrid children of that family. The casting director nailed it. They all look like they could be the kids of that relationship. Well, Becky Fader is the greatest actor in the film she's phenomenal she's about eight absolutely blown away she was phenomenal she was good um i hear what you're saying keithy are you speaking like ethnically are you saying they're kind of like the right look to be the offspring of sandler and uh hayek that's what that's what casting is yeah that's true that's true that's true is it gonna true. Is it going to fit?

Are people going to believe? Yeah, they will because we know it. Keithy looks like a giraffe though on account of his very large lashes. Beautiful lashes. I actually,

I like his face. He's got a very emotive face. I don't think I like him as an actor. Neither do I. He makes bad decisions. It's cool to talk about him like this because he's probably only 12.

Yeah. I have a question for the men of grown-ups to number 33. If you were out and about in a bar and you met a girl that you're really interested in. Let's call her Nancy Arbuckle for the purposes of the story.

Nice. And you start talking about movies. You know, you get to know each other, common interests, and the subject of grown-ups is going to come up because you guys obviously talk about it, but it comes up first with her and she says oh yeah me and my friends watched the funniest movie the other day it was grown-ups too i loved it oh would you progress or do you just walk away let's go to my house you're getting on the podcast we are busting for some positivity oh my god you're so right that's it the goalposts shift the whole situation

changes like well i thought we were gonna have, but in some ways this is better. This is content for the podcast. We're going to use you in a different kind of a way, which is less... Sexual intercourse pales in comparison to watching Grown Ups 2, Tim. To finding someone who likes Grown Ups 2. You've got to go deep on this, all right?

And especially if she's her and her mates like can you imagine us hosting a party where people are legitimate

multiple people are into the film we could throw grown ups to dress up party

just as a thought yeah I'll come dressed as Adam Sandler which is any t-shirt I'm currently

wearing and some loose shorts and a can of Pepsi, yeah. Yeah, and just drink Pepsi. Very dear to my heart. Having been involved and will continue to be involved

in a lot of product endorsement, development and placement. Yeah, you might know Tim Lamborn from the Spark ads. You might know me from holding up noodles at 4pm in the afternoon on a former show called You Live. I doubt it, though. I have to find out. Because it got cancelled because no one was watching mate it wasn't that no one was watching is that we lost money all right big difference you say potato

i say no viewership but let's call the whole thing off the product placement of uh came out of the veggie chips in the final scene when he's talking to his um unborn baby of just every the juice that was the final straw for you because you kept noticing shit you were like the labels out on that juice box what the fuck the veggie chips and so i turned to go and i was like is did i miss veggie as a line is he trying to get healthy as veggie chips show that he's developing his snack um over by having more healthy chip snacks no it's just that veggie chips paid a lot of money came back in if anything uh he's doing the opposite because if those are big fans of the movie you'll remember he's eating chips and pepsi when he anything, he's doing the opposite. Because if those are big fans of the movie, you'll remember. He's eating chips and Pepsi when he wakes up.

He's got a bowl of chips and a can of Pepsi on the bedside table. See, this is because one time when we did the podcast and I was mentally spinning out a bit, I came up with this theory that the entire movie is only half a movie and then doubled back on itself. And so there is a lot of examples of that. Like the mooses at the start and the end. There's a lot of characters that come in at like... There's some Hollywood formula, I guess, for this particular brand of film. There's beats in every genre of film.

But there's something... Very specific beats. That's what I was thinking about. For some reason, I was thinking about the movie over the weekend, which is terrible because I wasn't watching it. But where's the 3X structure with Grown Ups 2? can you please give me a loose definition of the three-act structure no i'm not a good enough i don't know enough about but it's like you know you you start off and you build the universe and you've got to like do things like this thing called saving the cat

where the film's protagonist has to do something so that you empathize with them and you care about their journey and then in the first act and and like almost immediately so that you empathise with them and you care about their journey. And then in the first act. And like almost immediately so that you're really on board and you're invested. And in the case of Grown Ups 2, I guess it's Sandler wrangling with a CGI deer through his house. No, he doesn't. That's the version of saving the cat.

He uses his child's toy as a decoy. But then you flip it right. And then it gets destroyed. So you lose the cat. You kill the cat. It's called killing the cat. And so you hate the guy. But then when you do come around, the attachment is strong.

But there's no... Did you come out? No. And there's no all is lost moment in this film. That's a standard thing in stream making. Essentially an all is lost moment. This is an all is lost moment for his career. But then the triumphant return thanks to Netflix stepping in.

You say it's an all is lost moment for his career. He made a lot of money on this film. Oh, fuck yeah. All let's get let's get into my my theory oh yeah this was this was confirmed when uh andy samberg jorma and and the other guy whose name i don't know from the lonely island come in for the car washing arguably the probably the best scene yeah yeah yeah a lot of people have said that i've read reviews online very funny scene very funny scene the washing the aerial from andyisama fantastic yeah he makes it look like he's masturbating a penis at that moment metal penis at that moment with that cameo i just you have to think really this is adam sandler saying okay we're obliged to do a follow-up because when you sign to get the studio to pay for grounds one they're like well if it goes well you're indebted

to us you have to go to that's just for Grown Ups 1, they're like, well, if it goes well, you're indebted to us, you have to do Grown Ups 2. That's just, from my understanding, entourage. That's how movies work. Everything I know about Hollywood. Anything? Okay, yeah, sorry. So they have to do Grown Ups 2 legally. They can't get out of it. That's probably not a far jump, right?

Nah, well, I'm not with you, but keep going. Because Grown Ups 1 was okay. It sold? Oh, yeah. Yes. Yeah, it made a lot of money. I'm sure when they sign those deals, it's like when you do Grown Ups 1, if it goes well, you have to do Grown Ups 2 for us. But you have to, yeah. Yes. Yeah, it made a lot of money. I'm sure when they sign those deals,

it's like when you do Grown Ups 1, if it goes well, you have to go to Superist. But you have to understand, this is Adam Sandler's first ever sequel. So there's obviously... That's why it has to be contractually done because nobody's doing shit otherwise. I think he loves it.

I think it's a passion project. He wrote this. I think this was a passion project. I don't think this was a contractual obligation. All right, I'm not here to... But anyway, let's... I'm sorry. The idea of the podcast was...

Let's stay with your assumption my theory so he's actually obliged to do a sequel gotcha and he just looks around and he's like fuck it this is the ultimate in joke

we're just gonna see how bad a film we can make that will still sell and let's just fucking have a laugh and so they bring in The Lonely Island for a day they've got Steve

Steve and Steve obviously got the relationship they have Madison but all of the came, Maya Rudolph is acting and doing comedy that is so bad that you just, you can't think that she stood up for that,

that she can be okay with that. It has to be like, fuck it, let's just have a laugh. There is. We all have a laugh every now and then. It's like, fuck it,

let's have a laugh. It doesn't mean anything to us. We've all succeeded. This has got legs, man. I think they're just like, we have to do this. Well,

let's make it as terrible as poo jokes. There's a prince album that's a result of this exact same thing whereas it's a thing that's his label signed him to do like 10 albums he did like six or something and then they really fucked him off and so he just shat out three albums at once but apparently they're not terrible you can't do anything nirvana top of the pops you have to do uh lip syncing okay got everyone to play each other's instruments so they just fucked it out they're just like

well fuck it what do we really care because there were just too many good comedic actors Colin Quinn Colin Quinn doesn't need to be portrayed that badly

I'd like to rebut okay but you hear where I'm coming from I agree I think James James Akas has said before when he came on the podcast

that he thought they were having a very good time shooting it I'm pretty sure it was James someone was saying like these guys are having a whale of a time there might have been

a term for time there's no way that's the case I'm not arguing with the fact that they're sort of mailing it in no of course they're just they're hanging out

but you're saying it's not that cynical like yeah okay which I guess no it's good be the you know positively I'm too cynical I mean I just highly doubt that it's good be the you know positively i'm i mean i just

highly doubt that it is that that it is that cynical it's just a bad movie they just made it done that they don't care about it's not they actively tried to make a terrible movie they just fucked around for a few days and this is what came out of it and people went to it anyway and some people i've heard have been watching it week after week which is fucking insane for months I would go with that but the quality of the surrounding cast is too high it just seems like they're having a laugh

they're having a laugh at us they're just like look what we can shit out and you will still buy because you know how cynical they are in the industry they might be lovely people why would they all be mocking their fans like that because they've got a weird relationship with their careers and their life cynical they are in the industry but they might be lovely people why would they all be mocking their fans like that because that is a pretty high concept

relationship with their careers and their life yeah and they got bored this is very existential this is very

artistic because the burp fart sneezing the burp snart that Kevin James keeps doing like that is apparent

it's miles away from being a joke it's three bodily functions crammed together it's nothing and yet they keep trying to convince us

that it's a catchphrase to meadows so good yeah he doesn't need to do that and his catchphrase in this movie

is the word what exactly such a racist I think you're onto something man we theorised I think they're just like fuck it

should we see how bad we can take it and the studio doesn't care you might be onto something here man popcorn filler let's go we got

to put a bow on this and i want to end on a high like we got to wrap it up okay because we we've been talking a while we've been talking a while but have we missed any uh features uh no we got all the features shining light i don't know if i've set you a little bit here no no i'm just thinking you just blowed my mind twice in one podcast I want to thank Tim Lamborn for joining us today it's been an absolute pleasure I'm going to say it

doing this podcast is worth the 106 minutes of Grown Ups 2 thank you but don't watch the movie yourselves unless you can join us 101 I think

okay felt like 6 felt like 106 felt 5 minutes longer than it was look thank you very much for listening everybody like us on Facebook.

Obviously dump any Adam Sandler related news you have in that pitch we're creating. And please, if you know Adam Sandler, let him know what we're up to. We'd love to fly over to Hollywood and hang out with him. We're looking at doing a Kickstarter. Can you give us $5, Tim? Shit.

To get over to Hollywood. I reckon we could get David Spade to watch it on the 52nd time with us. I reckon maybe. If not, we'll burn the thing to the ground and get Rob Schneider in because he's so fucked off he didn't get into Grown Ups 2, but he's in Grown Ups 1. That would be funny.

All right. Plus, I've met Schneider before, as I've mentioned. Yeah, that's great. I'm going to stop mentioning it. Okay. Thank you very much for listening. We'll see you next week. Live every moment.

Love every day, yeah. Because before you know it your precious time slips away