The Worst Idea Of All Time - Replay S01E46: Germans

Episode Date: March 31, 2024

Please enjoy this victory lap of Season One episodes as we celebrate 10 years of The Worst Idea of All Time. New episodes posting on our Substack.Original Description:Guy and Tim are on the road again, the road to watching Grown Ups 2. With just 5 epsiodes to go - the boys' mental sanity appears to be at an all time low. The boys momentarily become German tourists, Tim reminds everyone that Stone Cold is in the movie and there's a serious questions asked of the co-hosts' parents. Plus a confusing toilet paper themed shining light and a beaut of a Steve Buscemi Mystery Tour. And you know what else? You do not mop tar seal. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Really on the homestretch now, episode 46. This was a big one for us at the time. I guess we were still kind of green as comedians in New Zealand and we have on two of the kings of New Zealand comedy, Di Henwood and Josh Thompson. And I remember not being totally present with the movie because I was still kind of starstruck that these guys were at Tim's apartment watching Grown Ups 2 and doing the doing the show um you know it's a it's longer by the standards of the season 42 minutes and um here it is. Hello and welcome. Still rolling.

Hello and welcome to the worst idea of all time, episode 46, with myself, Tim Batt. And me, Guy Montgomery, and this week we're joined by not one but two guests we've got Dai Hemwood thank you very much, g'day and we've also got Josh Thompson hey guys, two of the funniest people in New Zealand for my money after me and Guy

close third and fourth this is going to be so hard to coordinate us both talking into one microphone guy, so let's just smash our heads together. This is weird. I feel like if you've got nits, I've got nits now. Yeah, but having watched this movie with you, you guys are on the same page now.

Very much so. You're one mind. You're one mind and four eyes. If he's got nits, I want him. And if I've got nits, he should get him, so we remain on the same level. It's about teamwork. It's about cooperation, communication.

Josh Thompson, can we start with you? What did you think of the movie, bruh? I didn't like it, but it's an awful... I'll tell you what, I liked it. But it's an awful movie. It's really weird. At the end, I was just going, why?

What's going on? It's just people doing things, and I don't know what's going on. Okay, that's not the best explanation. No, that's kind of a good explanation because you're heading on to, listen, I've got a very important priority here and that's that I don't want to colour your opinion of the movie by the one that I've built up over watching it for 46 times because it's an unreasonable thing to do a movie. You're both to be commended for watching this 46 times.

I appreciate you saying that. I can't possibly agree. You could have spent that time doing something else, but hey, you've watched it 46 times. Isn't it Tiger Woods who says you have to do 10,000 hours of something? That's the guy who wrote Blink. Yeah, Malcolm Gladwell.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, he said tent. They're visually very different people, but they have the same philosophy. So think, you'll be 46 hours into becoming a professional golfer. Josh reckoned we could have built a house by now. I reckon he could have built a house, yeah. No, I was next to a McDonald's in Japan that got built in 48 hours.

Really? Oh, I thought they'd do that. Oh, no, they're just the coordination. Much like the stunts in this movie. Oh, please, tell me more about the stunts, John. Everything's a bit too perfect. Well, Josh has given his heartfelt thought. Six words from the heart. I enjoyed it.

I must say, anything... What I found intriguing was starting with the moose scene right run me through it there's a moose or a deer

it's a deer well yeah a deer a deer is a skinny moose isn't it it's quite big it might have been an elk yeah you've got an elk you've got a massive deer

in the room it wasn't an elk you can tell by the horns it looks like an elk to me. No, alks have those, they have like wide brim sort of horns.

Oh, you think of a moose. You think of a moose there. What does an elk look like? It looks like the thing that's at the start of the movie. Yeah, well... A little bit. Yeah, sorry,

a moose has feltier horns. They say it's a deer. They consistently refer to the animal on screen as a deer. Okay, it's... Why don't you let me go on about it being an elk and a moose then? Sorry, carry on.

It's a deer. Sorry, we're talking about the deer. So the deer's in the room. You've got no build-up. You've got nowhere to go, right? So first of all, you'd know the deer was in it. She'd smell the deer. So in real life, you'd smell a deer.

No, I'm going to challenge you on that point brother because when you're asleep your sense of smell switches off your olfactory functions are rendered moot no but when you're asleep okay that's maybe in the yeah in the deep of a sleep but in the morning when you're still you're on the fringe of waking up anyway you're not like there's often there's bleed in between the end of your dream and the beginning of the day. If you have a little deer snuffling around your snacks next to your bed that Adam Sandler keeps there. No, I'm going to stop you there, guys. Selma Hayek is out cold.

We know this. She keeps trying to get back to sleep. She keeps telling Lenny, let me sleep. She's gone, bro. But if you're out cold, you're not saying let me sleep. Selma Hayek in this movie Is your scented candle type I could see she smelled good Like she smells good

She smells good Her room smells good Are you talking about the verb or the adjective You'd notice She smells good herself or she sniffs other things No she smells good Her room smells good She wears a lot of breathable fabrics in this,

and so she smells good, right? That yoga mat would be a thing of beauty, like an Akoya candle. Oh. But, yeah. That's some time in Japan, haven't you, brother? Those vending machines.

All I'm saying is that with a deer in the room, you'd smell a deer. And you've started... Because it would upset the very special fragrance that she has going on in the room at all smell a deer and you've started because it would upset the very special fragrance that she has going on in the room at all other times exactly

you don't know where that deer's been but it's got the movie has massive gags that are some yay or nay funny but they're so over the top

you've got to laugh at what they're trying to achieve so like give me an example give me two what were your top two over the top gags that may not have been that outrageous? Like, over-the-top gags...

Outrageous, but... Oh, no, one that worked. Yeah. I wasn't a fan of the stone bus driver. Nick Swanson. Yeah, Nick Swanson. Slightly overplayed. Yet, when the bloody inflatable raft

pops out in the caimer... Yeah, bro. Yeah, dude. It's a huge stunt. Massive stunt. Huge physical gag. And then when the guy in the fightmart yeah dude it's a huge stunt massive stunt and then when the guy in the fight flies

over the roof when Shaq throws him yeah when Shaq throws him over the roof they're these huge stunts and even

even the changeable table oh yeah that's a lot of effort we haven't really talked about the changeable table we're trying to work out the physics of it Josh you were laughing

sort of at various different moments in the movie with real mirth and joy can you walk us through what was going on there

I mean there were some funny bits I can't remember what they were but there were some funny bits there were some

funny bits I really really laughed hard at those but I really laughed hard at the bits that probably didn't work and yeah

and I think I think i just enjoyed them because i kind of imagined being on set and and the guy going guy goes oh so hang on so he does he finishes his line turns at me and then i go wow is that right and you want me to just a bit higher and really hold it really hold it. Okay, cool. I think I'm good now. Let's go again. Sorry, team.

Sorry, it's taken me a while during the day, but I think I've got it. Okay, let's go, let's go. Make it a good one. And the funny thing is, about your observation, is that that random dude you're talking about is an SNL alumni, apparently,

Tim Meadows, who's like legendarily funny. I know! And like, that's him. That's him in the movie. He nailed the first What? Yeah

And they could've reused That first What? But it got It got a bit Weird Hey can I just jump back To hashtag deer detail

Grab it bro Yeah I'd love to go The bra On the deer's Antlers We are in the first Minute and a half Of the movie

No but it is still there Yes Maybe 13 hours later at the party That's how we know it's the same deer And not a different one Just in case But was that when they first tried to introduce sexiness in? Because I was thinking

Why do they put a bra on? A lacy bra It is a raunchy bra It's a pink see-through bra It's not like some wacky jocks the movie has got a confused sexual time very sexual because the movie ostensibly is a family comedy but it's too much it's too much to have a woman like that swinging their boobs around man it is so intense i'm sweating a lot of skin and if i was a few years younger I'd be sweating then

well that's something we kind of posited during the watch between us if you're a young lad about 19, 11 discovering your own anatomy and you've gone to this movie

with your parents as I'm sure it happened this would be great this would be the one in the store you're like can we oh hey

can we buy this video so we can all hang out and watch the movies are you asking your parents for that kind of material, though? Not these days. That's fair. How old are you now, Josh? I'm older now.

I'm mid-30s. Yeah. So I had an awesome situation where my dad was in a film where a woman took her top off and had her boobs out. All right. So we had legitimately had the V8. But then you're running that fine line of being all chubbed up with your dad. Well, that's what I was going to say.

Has that led to any interesting kind of maybe sexual? No, luckily he was in the film, then he was out of the film. They're not in the same place at the same time. So never at the same time. But there was very sexual, but also the policemen cleaning each other's nipples where, you know, the police partner goes, can I get in on that? I'm going to allow that one on the basis of

if you're a kid and you kind of don't get what nipples do, it's sort of like, oh, it's silly. You know what I mean? It works on a silly level. But the yoga stuff. We're not saying that like these other things, we're not having a go at like these specific people saying they're not funny.

I just assume that they all turn up to work and they have to do this script and they don't have a choice in the matter because they're getting paid money for it to sell stuff at Kmart and they're going to have to do whatever the hell it says. That's not funny. Now, this has got to have garnered

quite a lot of sponsorship dollars. Okay, this is what I'm interested in because very early on in the podcast, we were talking about the accounting practices and the money and that sort of thing. So this movie had a budget of $80 million and it grossed $230 million. But I don't know.

I think that might just be box office. Who knows how much Adam Sandler's production company made. All the phones at Nokia were made. No, they're Sony. Sony Ericsson. It's a Sony Pictures film There's bio computers in there

Two brands that no longer exist Kevin James is filming the ballet recital With a Sony handycam Why's he got a handycam? His children aren't actually in the ballet recital So it is a little bit weird Really? And also you both are making noises

And it's true Because that ballet teacher Is strutting her stuff on stage and there's a lot of younger women around so very awkward not younger women tiny girls they're like six years old that's bad what they what are they trying to achieve because you know when you go out as a director for any scene you're trying to achieve an emotion from the person watching it what are they trying to get turned on guilty arousal i think screwball there's eight year olds in the shot um guilty arousal could be a good name for this film now listen i want to um catch this next bit uh because we we've got something we love to do with our guests and guys you want to explain it to them

oh yeah so more or less we'll do a little role play we are the executive producers you two have penned the script for Grown Ups 2 and you're pitching it to us we're in the office you've come in you're money hungry you know

you guys you understand unplug that mic Josh and plug it back in it's doing there we go. All right. So whenever, in your own time, come into the office. Okay.

Okay. Have you guys seen Star Wars? I actually haven't. Not, no. Okay. Well, there's some very, there's Star Wars themes running through this. Can I just first of all introduce myself? My name is Mr. Bat.

This is Mr. Montgomery. We're from the studio. It's lovely to meet you. This is my cousin. Josh, is it? Cousin Di. He's touched. No, but I'm so excited about this film.

No, you take it away. No, you're touched. So he's, I've brought him along to, you know, help him see how men talk. Okay. Josh is the one we need. All right. Josh, let me throw it over to you.

Let me take you back in time I'm there I'm throwing Let's harken back 30 years To the 80s Okay We've got big hair Yeah

Bright clothes Oh yeah And damn fine music Now that Is part of what we're Selling We're taking people back You take your whole family and go

look children that's what I was doing that's a really positive memory for me yes good so that's really interesting I've got

we've got I've got do you guys like black stereotypes what sorry my wife is African American

oh well so there's an African American wife in this. So the answer is yes. Strong woman characters. Very strong woman characters. They're strong woman characters. Yes. Because so sure she's got a big honky nose.

And the thing is, the kids like to get Steve Urkel. You like Steve Urkel? Love Family Matters. Everyone loves Steve Urkel. Who doesn't? Fresh Steve Urkel. Imagine Steve Urkel and Bobby Brown. Oh, okay.

Tell me more. Tell me more. And the 80s. All right, I need more. We've got an experience for you where you can take. We've got the big four. We've got over 25 male. We've got under 25 male. We've got over 25 female and under 25 female.

Those are our four main demos. That's everybody. I guess my main concern at this point in the conversation, fellas, and don't get me wrong wrong I'm very excited by this I love the 80s It's good I love stereotypes And your family

Is there any Sort of story to this I mean what's the thrust What's the hook For my family Give us the characters And show us their journey The thrust is

I don't know if you remember A show called Airplane It's gags A movie airplane It's gags gags gags Sure Storyline can take a back seat. We want gags, gags, boobs.

Let me make sure I've got you right here. Die, is it? It's a family movie, Die. You can't put boobs in a family movie. You can't concentrate. You can't follow a script while your children are on their phones and your wife's cooking and you're trying to watch a movie, you can't focus on that.

You need just a constant, hey, there's something happening over here. There's something happening. And they're like, what? That's all you need for two hours. I just want to make sure I understand what you're suggesting. This film you've just written is the next aeroplane? Yes.

What I'm also suggesting is some people don't like films. They like wrestling. So we're going to put a champion wrestler in it. Who have you got? Who are you thinking? Stone Cold Steve Austin. He finally dies speaking my language. Stone Cold Steve Austin, the rock.

He's all action. He's all buff. He's not comedy. This is Stone Cold Steve Austin's softer side. So you bring in the harder woman in you see the wrestling fans the woman who like

a man with a bit of leather waistcoat about him we're hitting a lot of this is very appealing to me we're hitting a lot of marks that I like

but listen also sorry before you talk before you talk you don't have to pony up all the money well that was my next question

Kmart those guys are hemorrhaging they love spending big i know i don't know if they make the drinks but rockstar are on board another thing that we've found sorry another thing that we've found josh is it take the floor sorry um another thing that we've found is that we're not going to have characters that you follow in a movie we've just got heaps of well known

sort of people that you go ah it's the guy so you can sit down and go ah it's the guy from the it's the lady

it's the lady from History of Violence an amazing film she's in there we'll be engaged the whole time yeah yeah she's doing different things

Steve Buscemi's in there What you guys are saying Is hey let's take plot What's that an open window Because that's where The plot's going But we're gonna We're gonna make a movie

That's gonna hold the attention Of all our key demos Under and over 25's men Under and over 25's women Yes You either Draw people in With a firm story

Or you draw them in With hot deer piss On a dude's face. We're going the latter. I haven't heard anything about this yet. Listen, you're a positively breath of fresh air. I love where this is at and I'm ready to green light this. How much would you like? 60 mil? 80 mil?

Adam Sandler's on it as well. 80 mil it is. I'm sold. Good. Mr Montgomery, what say you? Yeah, guys, I'm sold good Mr Montgomery what say you yeah guys I'm really excited about this project

it's a strong pitch I don't see any way this movie could go wrong sweet this concludes the role play part of the podcast I think we sold it Josh

hey good work we were pretty we were pretty sort of flexible sort of morally and financially you definitely swung You swung from no to definitely yes

You're right though There is no story whatsoever I have no idea what happened I want to drill into this Josh So like Drill into it Tell me Take me along as the movie went on

Where you were at emotionally And kind of intellectually So we open on a deer There's a deer. I mean, the deer, I don't know if you guys have raised deer with your own hands, but I have. I've had deer on the farm. It's a very dangerous animal, very dangerous animal.

I don't know how it got up the stairs, but they are very, very strong. So maybe a deer got up the stairs. Yes, great. What you don't do is the deer comes down the stairs. You don't take your entire family behind a very dangerous deer in a big house because it's dangerous to your children. Well, you're not wrong. So you were saying that Grown Ups 2 should not be a how-to guide for parenting,

is what you're suggesting. No, it's got very horrible bits. And then he broke his kid's leg. Yeah, man. Hey, but let me tell you, as someone who's brought up deer, because I've always wondered about the physics of this and the biology, could that deer run up and or down stairs with the way that their knees are configured? Does that stack up?

The staircase is too small for a deer. Well, that's true. Also, I reckon on that lot, they bought far too much blue paint and then had to do gags with it. It was splashing around, eh? One, what I found that they pulled the gags off amazingly, they filled a car half with blue paint. Yeah.

None of it's leaking out. The dude doesn't choose. You're right. Like, I reckon if I went up to my car before I opened the door, I'd know that it was half full of blue paint. He's driven there with it in, hasn't he? Yeah, and then he opens the door, and it all comes out. I never thought about that.

Guy, have you ever considered that? The dude's driving around in his car with the blue paint. He might have had to walk home the night before he did his church field day at the office. He drinks and walks to the office. No, no, he went into the office and the kids filled it up in the car park. Oh, that's right, because he walks up to it. It's after school. No, it's the beginning of school.

Huh, okay. Yeah, it's the beginning. And then he gets blue painted at the end of the day, eh? Yeah, when he's doing the announcement over the PA. Now, I pulled the odd prank at school. Taking a keg of blue paint into the principal's ceiling and

removing the asbestos square quietly enough to pour it perfectly over him and him going Ah! Every year! Every year I thought Why doesn't he Get those trouble markers Why doesn't he

Seal the ceiling Yes Because that would That would Really ruin Every year I mean and the ridiculous thing is That he's actually wearing

You will have heard His favourite shirt He wears his favourite shirt On that last Since he was 12 And if he's known That every year They're going to pour Blue paint on him Why would you wear Your favourite shirt On the one day shirt he wears his favorite shirt on that on that last year and if he's known that every year they're

going to pour blue paint on him why would you wear your favorite shirt on the one day listen we got to wrap up this but is it clean we've got some transportation to catch oh i just want to sorry how come he's got a dry shirt after he's being pissed on with a deer i've got to say you two dudes both noticed that and i have did you even notice that before a guy in the 45 previous times it hadn't occurred to me to think about it where's the

deer piss going bruh it's all over his face Adam Sandler's working his tail off to get that deer out of the

house his energy and sort of the rate at which his brain and heart are going have sort of they've heated

him up to the point that any clothes that were wet on him sort of 10 seconds prior are now dry I reckon he did he scotched guarded his T-shirts.

I've always thought about doing that. You see them. That's a capital idea, by the way. Capital idea. Oh, fuck. But he didn't do it because they're definitely wet. You see. Anyway.

You sidetracked me, bro. Yeah. So where do we want to go to next, Guy? What's our first destination? I'd ask Josh and Don if you could please get aboard the bus. You on the bus? Yeah. So where do we want to go to next guy? What's our first destination? I'd ask Josh and Don, if you could please get aboard the bus. You're on the bus. Yeah.

I'm on the bus. I mean, I'm a bit stressed out because who's driving? Paddy Schwartz. Party time. It's the Paddy Schwartz party time. It's Paddy Schwartz, party time. It's the Paddy Schwartz party time. It's Paddy Schwartz. He's riding around your house on a children's tricycle.

It's Paddy Schwartz, party time. He's opening up the drawers. He's roaming through your pots and pans. Paddy Schwartz, party time. He's putting tinfoil in the microwave. Paddy! Don't put tinfoil in the microwave! Die hand with Josh Thompson.

Thanks again for joining us today. Thank you. In this movie, you may have noticed one of the co-stars is Patrick Schwarzenegger's son, who goes by Patrick Shriver right now. As far as we know, Patrick Schwarzenegger doesn't have a son. Arnold Schwarzenegger's son. Oh yeah, sorry.

Arnold Schwarzenegger's son, Patrick. I beg your pardon. Yeah. No, fair point. So what we like to do every week Arnold Schwarzenegger's son Oh yeah sorry Arnold Schwarzenegger's son Patrick I beg your pardon Yeah No fair point So what we like to do Every week Is find our favourite part Of Patrick Schwarzenegger's

Performance Do you guys remember him Being in the film at all I'm thinking I remember Graffiti Cliff It was here around The Graffiti Cliff eh He was in that scene

At the quarry By Suicide 35. And he gets out with the jocks. Yeah, he was wearing a baby blue singlet with yellow trim. And he was the beautiful man. He was beautiful. He was beautiful. He had lips.

Like, the thing is, I noticed Salma Hayek started the movie off with very crusty lips. Like, they needed some lip balm. And Patrick Schwartz gets out of the car. He's been cruising in his 5.0 with his dudes all day, and his lips are beautiful. You weren't right about that, bro. I've noticed Patty Schwartz's lips before. They're kind of majestic.

They're like two tiny Cheerios, you know, that have been cooked just to the right tautness. Like, just before the skin's gonna break out. Right to the maximum... And at the beginning of the movie, Selma's Cheerios have been on the boil for a little too long. Selma Hayek's Cheerios... They're bursting out of the skin, mate.

They got left out. That's how I feel about her lips. They didn't... Because otherwise you would see weird shit going on. Yeah, the reason why I think this is featured so much for me is I feel everyone in this movie is overly made up. Like the costume and hair and makeup has gone to town. We're talking about how it's so well lit.

You can see the makeup on everyone. You noticed it was really well lit really early on, which I appreciate. Because you guys haven't heard the podcast, have you? No. You haven't watched the movie, you haven't heard the podcast. I'm excited that we've all noticed it's a beautifully lit movie, but what I'm going to need from either one or both of you

is the highlight of your Patrick Schwarzenegger experience. The lips count. I think the second time he's on, everyone's sort of jockish, but he is like a gazelle, a beautiful lithe gazelle with a high school body just glistening through what we die is he's been known to work out on the rig down at uh gold's gym on uh on beach i'm bad i i the one thing i was thinking is i feel sorry for the woman he makes love to because you know he'd be like he'd be like a ball of twine but that's wrapped in a bean bag if that makes any sense like a sexy bean bag run me through that well like the thing is

he'd be cuddly but once he tensed he'd be a ball of muscle he's nowhere near like his father no no no but he's lying he's wrapped around a bean bag He's kind of He's sinewy but hot It was kind of a feminine Like he kind of Just looked dreamy Yeah dreamy Like a John Stainless dreamy It didn't strike me As a very grisly man

No He hadn't quite come into his own Because when this movie was shot He was 20 And he's very pretty in the movie Right right You've seen the lips And the eyelashes are huge

But I tell you what Me and Guy both follow him on twitter um at patrick whatever but more importantly at blaze pizza yeah he's a good guy right and he's he's in pizza he's looking more masculine now he's got a beard yeah he's got what the what he what he what he's what this is great pizza joint on venice beach guys i gotta say if you're from venice if you're in la you find yourself hungry you're hungry but you're also in a rush you You've got to get to a job interview, alright? You've got the big job interview because you need to make rent or you and your family, you're going to get kicked out of your apartment.

You've got a job interview because you've just penned the greatest movie ever told. And you've got to meet with these studio execs. You can't miss that bus. You've got to meet with Mr. Bat and Mr. Montgomery. You've only got about 180 seconds to get yourself a snack to eat. Now, there's this little joint called Blaze Pizza. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, all right. The ingredients are hashback. In two minutes. Art is anal. In two minutes. No, just over two minutes. Three minutes. You've got to order it, though, surely.

Woe to go. Probably three minutes. Three and a half if you add the order time in there as well. 180 seconds. I don't mean to derail the podcast. I just had to bring that up. We are contractually obligated Obviously to bring up Our Blaze Pizza

Hashtag how do you Blaze They are paying us Out the Waz Baz For this We are receiving no money From Blaze Pizza But we hope to Back invoice them

For all the promo we've done At any rate We need to get into Our second destination Which of course is Roll up Roll up to the destination. Roll up for the mystery tour. Roll up to the destination.

Roll up for the mystery tour. The Steve Buscemi Mystery Tour is coming to take you away. Coming to take you away. Take you today. The Steve Buscemi Mystery Tour. Now, we tried to forewarn you during the film. I don't know how much, take you today. The Steve Buscemi Mystery Tour. Now, we tried to forewarn you during the film. I don't know how much of it you absorbed. What do you know about it?

Of what? So, Steve Buscemi got an injury in the first Grown Ups film, which neither of us have seen yet, and we have to guess what it was. But the injury was there for one scene. When he was all, yeah, boy, flavour, flavour. He was far... Because he implied he was injured from the arms down. What, really?

No, it was more like... Doesn't he hold the arms up like he's a referee in football? I thought he was being the goalpost. Yeah, no, so did I, but he said, I'm injured from the arms down. Two years of this with his arms up in the touching position and only 40% feeling in his body. So something happened in the first movie.

It's got to be the deer maybe. Maybe he was wearing a pink bra because they went to a cross-dressing 90s party in the first movie. You're into a date, man. This is it. Sitting well with scotch. And then the deer came and whipped his bra off and nailed him.

So that's what the bra is always on the deer's antler. But the deer didn't have a bra when we first saw it. And I don't condemn you for not knowing this after one watch. The deer got it from somewhere. It was a washing laundry thing which Adam Sandler and his after one watch the deer got it from somewhere washing laundry thing

which Adam Sandler and his kids throw at the deer to try and slow it down I wonder how bizarre defence I assume there was a few riders

do you know how many riders were in it do you guys know three mate I think there were three head riders I don't know if Adam Sandler was one of those but he was definitely collaborating they were all former

Saturday Night Live riders right it's a bold move to start with this deer thing like okay well maybe it was just the integrity raping he got from his agent when he sent the script and they said do it to who to steve and he went and since i've read this i've got no feeling i'm 40% of my body but I'm here I'm going with the deer I did not follow the the Josh the bit leading up to that Josh I felt like you weren't entirely on board with Dynastory although I think it's perfectly plausible and reasonable no I wasn't it doesn't make any sense whatsoever what do you I mean what do you think caused the injury oh hang on you say

that deer caused the injury yeah this could work Where you been Joshy What are you talking about Tomo I thought The deer The guy The thought The deer and Steve

You were saying deer But Steve Buscemi Were the same actor Or something at one stage It didn't make any sense No he got hit by the deer In the first movie So you're saying Steve Buscemi

Was wearing a pink bra Yeah at a dress up party Guess what Rob Schneider's not the only one who was in the first movie so was the deer so that's what you're suggesting Rob Schneider's

in the first movie by the way that doesn't surprise me to be honest I met him once I interviewed him for 20 minutes yeah

he's an interesting cat he seems interesting he's very zen but in an intense way which is kind of like something that is at odds with itself I'm very surprised that he isn't in this movie.

It screams Rob Schneider. Well, some people say there was scheduling errors, but we've read maybe there was a falling out. Because isn't Rob Schneider part of Adam Sandler's stable? The Sandlerverse? Yeah, yeah. And you look at the Rob Schneider movies, you look at the animal, the hot chick.

Adam Sandler's cameoing in those in the same way Rob Schneider's cameoing in those in the same way rob schneider's cameo is he induced bigelow i don't know adam sandler i don't think he is what's your like when you guys watch it with people i can't imagine what's wrong with you but like i can't imagine like so sometimes i'll have a youtube clip that i'll particularly like and i'll show someone and some people really respond to it really well and some people won't. So what parts do you like the best from the movie and can't wait till someone

sees a couple of bits? You've led us perfectly into the shining light. The first thing is that Guy and myself don't have attachment to the film in the same way because we're not vouching for it. Do you know what I mean? We've thrown ourselves into this pit where we've got to watch it over and over again but if you put on

A YouTube video On your phone You're like Hey check this out This is awesome You've got investment You've got stock in there You've got skin in the game

Sure We don't have a lot of skin In the game here You guys don't need to love The movie I kind of associate The movie with you guys now Do you

It's terrifying I see Is that what we've become now Is that our career Z-Dog Z-Dog You Said Z-Dog Z-Dog You Said Z-Dog to you

Good memory Di Good memory I said someone write that down Yeah Because I want to bring up the Z-Dog thing Because someone brought it up on the Facebook page I just want to say Brayden Higgins

Uh David Spade's son The guy who combs his hair with a switchblade knife Yeah Someone refers to him as Z-Dog once And there's no explanation leading up to it Or after Or any repeat of that name so I just want to validate your concerns

person who's seen the movie once I always feel, I don't know this might be unfair of me but I always feel like when you take issue with the fact that they haven't referenced Z-Dog earlier in the film I mean, you know

we could sit here for 46 weeks and make complaints very similar in terms of just like just laziness I don't know what I'm saying

and in a lot of ways I wonder what's the dog's name is it Zachariah Braden Higgins did you think it was Zachariah yes

it's not okay I to be honest didn't pay the best attention I wonder how what got cut out of this film, like whether they filmed the whole scene of Higgins

trying to work at the soup shop, right? The soup kitchen. Oh, the soup kitchen. And then the son finding out or something, because it suddenly gets referenced. And so many lines in this film, random throwaways, then have this huge callback to. I'll throw over to Guy Montgomery

to explain why that wouldn't be the case. Specifically with the soup. Vis-a-vis the soup kitchen. So when David Spade first meets his son, Brayden Higgins, at the train station, you'll both remember he sort of becomes afraid because Brayden cuts the head off the teddy bear. Yeah.

And he tells his son, because he doesn't want to spend the day with him because he's nervous, and you would be. Your son's just drawn a switchblade. He says, I'd love to hang out. You've got to go to school because I'm working late at the soup kitchen today. And then so Brayden...

An obvious lie. Yeah. Unbeknownst to us, us Braden actually sort of invests a level of trust in that line and then somehow finds out yeah well he finds out because when he's down the quarry you know as you would be it's first day of summer I mean everybody swims down the quarry

in Stanton Connecticut we know this he he sees his dad jumping off the cliff how can you be working in the soup kitchen See that's when I'm looking at your neck As you're jumping into the pool I don't know if this is a normal thing That people do overseas

But there's a lot of graffiti on that cliff Yeah man Like the entire quarry has been spray painted You're tagging nature Yeah It's really weird Because we don't do that here, eh Joshyging nature yeah really weird because we don't do that here hey joshy i don't think so we don't do it i used to hang out in a mongrel mob cave

but out of pia and there's a lot of not while i were there like just after that left just to sort of sniff the vibe okay but there was there's like yeah out of p and it's closed off now it's down the north end of pia there's a lot of of mongrel mob graffiti and so forth in it. Was it the same? Very different scene to the one in there. Was it the same level of kind of layering and coverage that they had? No, like it didn't look like a perfect graffiti magazine like that cliff look. I likened it to the pink and white terraces.

Research them. They're very similar. Google that. Very different clientele, however. Do you reckon that was art department? Do you reckon they went and painted that? No way. That's location.

They found that quarry, surely. You reckon? A little bit from Column A and a little bit from Column B. Do you think they added to an already existing scenario? If there was someone, they would have said spread it out so it matches this thing because it was too perfect. If it was real, it would have been all overlapped and there would have been a lot more cock and balls on it to be honest a fair and biting justification for

why there's something i mentioned while we're watching this and that was that every scene seems to have talking that phases out then there's a weird gag to get out of the scene yeah you mentioned you articulated something that i've always felt watching the movie but i've never been able to express in words and that's that the people making this film didn't know how to finish this they don't know how to end a scene yeah and you're so right that's what it is at the end of every sequence of scene there's an odd little joke that they're trying to launch as a catchphrase or a gag and then you simply move on into the next but they don't they don't use subtext at all because it's like, scene, say what you need to in the first sentence, then gag, gag.

Like with the soup kitchen thing, the dude comes up with soup kitchen my arse or whatever, tattooed on his arse. The other thing we didn't bring up is that he's a warlock. We don't know that. That's a theory I came up with once. Fitz. What does it mean?

That he's like a demon. Because I posited that he's got quite special powers that make him a supernatural being. He looks very young. Young for a demon who's over 4,000 years old. I think I've got some sort of power over time from my understanding. You've been watching Angel? No.

Did you watch Buffy were you a Buffy fan Tomo no that's my genre I can't handle oh really zombies

vampires and warlocks and that sort of I loved Buffy and I was quite I'm talking original run Buffy when it was first on the telly

not reruns I was right into that the movie I saw the movie it was originally a movie yes yeah and it wasn't Sarah Michelle Gellar

it was someone else first but Sarah Michelle Gellar or someone else first. But Sarah Michelle Gellar took it and made it her own with that guy who directed it who's made amazing movies. I read Cormac McCarthy's The Road and Cried at the end. We've all got stories. We've all got cultural touchstones. Patrick Swayze. Schwarzenegger?

Yes, Schwarzenegger. Shriver. Shriver. He said something in it, didn't he? Didn't he have two words? Yeah, he said words. Schwarzenegger or Schwein yes Schwarzenegger Schreiber Schreiber he said something in it didn't he didn't he have two words yeah he says words it was a bit of

activity so I didn't quite what were those words okay so Paddy Schwartz's lines yeah they're shaking he's so mad

my brother's shaking he's so mad he does do that line when Taylor Lautner says you've you've ruined what is thatner says, you've ruined, what is that? You've ruined our celebration.

Look at my hands. They're shaking. I'm so mad. And Patrick Schwarzenegger goes, yeah, my brother's shaking. And the rest of it, it's a lot of mouth work.

I think the rest of it is he's just joining in on lines. I'm trying to scan through the rest of the script. Can we revisit Josh's word bumble there? Imagine if Patrick Swayze played that part. Oh, wait.

It wouldn't surprise me. Because so many cameos. It would have surprised me if Patrick didn't manage to. And instead of that weird bass line that comes on when he first has an appearance, it's Unchained Melody, that starting bit. There's so many cameos in it, I wonder... It almost feels...

You know, it almost actually feels... I better know, I better. Even though it doesn't reference any cultural things, any pop culture, it feels in the vein of a scary movie type style to me. Like a weigh-inin send-up movie. Yeah, like it feels that it is mocking other movies

and other cultural touchstones. It's never occurred to me that Grown Ups 2 was sort of taking a swing at any other genre or style of film. Hey, we've got to put a pin on this. The time's gone away. Josh, you go. There's one real thing. There's nothing to really follow.

I didn't know who was meant to be Following I guess it was Adam Sandler But then I thought it was the big guy I don't know what happened What this movie wants you to say Josh is What? But what did happen?

What happened to Adam Sandler? His kid wasn't there or something Then he woke up to someone's boobs Yeah The question you're asking is I think so much bigger than you realise and then we have time for

because what did just happen exactly but weekly every week what just happened you know why would you do that

I'm going to throw over to Guy Montgomery for a real quick shining light oh okay my shining light very early in the film when they do a cross from uh the fader's house to kevin james house the first shot they got in a stepping shot outside of it before we meet bean who's struggling with his

math homework uh there's a really cool uh female extra with wraparound shades she's wearing a green singler and blue jeans i like to think she wasn't hired for the film. She was actually walking maybe to the mechanics to pick up her car. And she was just

really rocking it right through that shot. You only get to see her for one or two seconds but she was really hitting her straps.

Love that. For My Shining Light which is the part of the movie we legitimately enjoyed this week. It can't just be a non-stop hate fest

of 52 weeks. It's ridiculous. There's another extra, background extra. It's a male who's in tanya's first appearance at the ice cream uh parlor and he clearly doesn't know he's in a movie or how to act in a movie and i really enjoyed the authenticity of that moment he's just looking around he doesn't know where to focus in he doesn't know what's going on. I've got a little shining light, a brief one. There's a guy who, it's this gag I know out at, we're a holiday, guys who pull this gag. It's the ice cream guy committing to the,

all right, Hollywood, you've been in your films. Now you move back here. He knows he hasn't been in any films. He hasn't even been working in the entertainment industry, but he's always, whoa there Hollywood, whoa there California guy. 20 vice wardens that's how you do it in Hollywood. Yeah it's

like wherever you go down south and it's okay Auckland. Oh filling your gas tank up to full are you? Oh okay Auckland. Did that touch a wee bit of a nerve die as someone who's from the hut and heart is still in the hut. Well, actually, it happened from Timaru. I got this in Timaru when I was driving through there.

Tomo's from Timaru. I point out Tomo's from Timaru. I was filling my car up at the petrol station, and the guy went, oh, filling it the whole way up. Oh, okay, Auckland. And it's like, dude, I'm driving the length of the island. I'm filling my car I love it

but no it just touched the stone with me that guy that spoke to you yeah and then I lost all credibility for the movie

when he was shitting out the ice cream fair call so Dickie's your highlight Josh fuck you don't have to have one

necessarily I really laughed at a whole bunch of things I can't remember what they were well I'll tell you what you laughed at, and this is the same for Tom Corey. You loved Kid Dynamite.

Yeah, man. When you said, ooh, that's cool. Yeah, I was imagining that I was that age and I could have auditioned for it. I could have been that kid from Grown Ups 2, that little fuzzy head kid. As a parent, I found I never used to find a character like that funny, yet I find it a lot funnier now

Dad humour Maybe that's what we're missing bro So this is what I find weird Dad humour I'm actually I'm not fully into it But I'm understanding it now Is this movie for you?

It's getting close man It's getting close to being for you It's getting close It's for you It's for new dads It's for new dads It's got boobs Seems like a perfect place

To put a bow on it They play on all the things Of oh you never go out anymore You're only Because it's true man Yeah right Like you end up You're drinking at kids parties

With people You're a grown up With other dudes You hardly ever know You're a grown up Tune in to episode 47 Where Guy Montgomery And Tim Beck

Get some women pregnant To appreciate the movie A little bit more This has been fabulous Having you guys on Josh Thompson And Di Henwood Thank you very much Thank you Thank you very much I to appreciate the movie a little bit more this has been fabulous having you guys on Josh Thompson and Di Henwood thank you very much

thank you thank you very much I really like the movie Guy anything you want to close out on you guys have got to go out there and live every moment

love every day we'll catch you next week Love and love every day Cause before you know it Your precious time slips away