The Worst Idea Of All Time - REPLAY: S02E08 - Drummer
Episode Date: September 5, 2025THIS EPISODES WERE RECORDED 10 YEARS AGO, PLEASE FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSESGuy and Tim are back from a short absence but it's like no time has passed between the last watch of Sex and The City 2. This ...time, the lads are watching in front of a live audience downstairs in the concrete basement of a pizza restaurant - The Montecristo, which the boys are running as a new comedy venue in their hometown. Tim's upset at a wedding drummer, Guy runs through the nightmare of eating diamonds and many confused and confusing film references (including Ghostbusters, Wizard of Oz and Shawshank Redemption) also insue.Support the boys on their modern-day adventures at twioat.substack.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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It's the worst idea of all time.
It's the worst idea of all time.
It's the worst idea of all time.
Hello and welcome along to the worst idea of all time.
Episode 8, live from the Monte Cristo room.
We've got an audience.
How are you?
Yeah.
We've sucked the energy out of the room
by miscalculating how long the movie would take
and us to watch it,
and then the people just came in, sat down
and watched us watch the movie for 10 minutes.
Very compliant crowd in tonight.
It was quite nice having the perspective
of people watching us watch the movie
because that 10 minutes felt longer than 10 minutes.
I'm going to do some squats to warm up.
because I feel very low energy.
That's okay.
So, Tim, the eighth viewing.
It was a while between innings, wasn't it?
Yeah, too long.
It is technically a week for, you know, follow, you know.
You keep saying that, it's not.
Well, we did the last one Tuesday week ago, and it's Sunday now.
So it's more than seven days, but it's still within the weekly.
I mean, I'm creating these weird little loopholes to jump through.
We were negligent.
We were negligent towards you, the listener,
and we were negligent towards the film
but I feel like it's a pretty appropriate way
to treat the relationship with the film
because it's negligent towards us in so many ways
and every week it bothers me
because it feels longer
it's harder to empathise with anyone
it's really difficult to be invested
in any of the problems
I know it wasn't a long time ago
but do you remember the first watch that we had
the first episode
we were so full of hope so full of glee
yes there was nothing but positivity
and a optimistic outlook
finally a movie that wasn't grown-ups too
and we've willingly glossed over
I think so many of the things that are wrong
with it just in the name of if we come into week one
of this new project with nothing but hatred in our hearts
it's going to be a long year
well you can only go down with this sort of an endeavour
you can only plunge further into the depths
so if you start in the bottom of a well
where do you end up the centre of the earth
and as we know
and nothing but molten lava
keep on digging that's what I say
When you get down there, you've got to keep moving.
Don't give up.
So you're saying start low, go further down, and then pop out the other side.
I'm saying in a hypothetical situation.
We're in China.
If you find yourself in the middle of the earth, I mean, it's going to be very difficult to get back up.
You've obviously got, you know, power technique on your side.
You've made it to the middle of the earth.
Just keep on digging.
There's a lot of theories actually because we don't fully know what's in the middle of the earth.
Like we know that there's molten metals and lava in there and a lot of iron, apparently,
and some heavy metals and stuff.
but apparently gravity gets really weird
at the centre of planets.
What happens to it?
It gets all kind of distorted.
Like little...
You guys are astrophysicist, day.
It's like, it kind of starts to distort
because of course gravity is the force
that pulls large bodies,
pulls things into large bodies, right?
So then where is the point where it...
So it pulls it into the centre, right?
Yeah.
So what happens when you get to the centre,
you've got like an object that's bigger than the centre of the thing.
My brain doesn't work in the same way.
I don't even understand what you're saying.
would it stretch out
would our negativity towards sex in the city too
if it started in the bottom of the well
kept going further and then got to the centre of the earth
which is hypothetically molten heavy metals
would it stretch out and start protruding
in the opposite side
it would melt and spread
and then leak through from the middle of earth
it would leap back out and it would permeate
all of the oceans and all of the continents
and we would colour the world with very negative
with negative eyes
which everyone would just carry
a general dull feeling in their stomach
and a sense of sadness. That was pretty
much the plot line of
Ghostbusters 2
that everyone in New York City
was feeling so awful that
there was made manifest an actual
green goo hanging around
in the... Sex in the city too
is a prequel to Ghostbusters 2.
A lot of people don't know that. The
timeline's obviously weird when you look at it
logically but when you
lay it out like that Tim I think it's pretty
obvious what's happening here. Absolutely because of course
You've got Carrie Bradshaw, who started off as in, as we know, Sex and the City is a prequel to Ghostbusters.
Carrie Bradshaw starts as a writer, becomes a man and later goes on to become Dr. Peter Vinkman, who's a psychologist.
I mean, I don't know why we're going over this.
It's stuff that everyone already knows this.
If you've seen a film, you know how this works.
I think Igor is Miranda, if memory serves.
If you know you Ghostbusters.
I don't know Ghostbusters well enough.
Just jump on another train then, eh?
Absolutely.
Look, we wrote down a lot of notes on my hand.
Yeah, I think we should address them.
There's lots to talk about.
The first one is diamond cake.
Okay, so at the wedding, at the start of Sex and City 2,
at the wedding, which lasts for a couple of days,
I'm not talking about in the world of the film.
I'm talking about when you're watching the film.
There's this cake.
I mean, it's garish.
We've talked about it before.
There's swans, you know, the mark of class.
And there's a cake just covered in diamonds.
I'm going to stop you there for a second.
The swan thing, you brought up, like, I think a couple of weeks ago
that they're the queen swans.
Those aren't your swans.
What is that all about?
What are you talking about?
Even in America, those are not your swans.
What do you mean?
Look, the queen owns all the swans.
At some point, in the monarchy, someone was like,
I like those birds.
We will take them from everyone, and they shall be ours.
they've just been inheriting them.
Is that true?
Yeah, they'll eventually be Charles's swans
and then Will's swans.
Every swan no matter where it is
is property of the British monarchy.
You can't eat it is what
the main thing is. The main take...
Does anyone, is anyone familiar with this?
The Queen Swans?
Can you verify this?
Are you serious? Can you jump on stage
for a second? Yeah, thanks.
Come join us. Round of applause for our
volunteer. What was your name?
Naomi, can you talk me
through this a little bit? What do you know?
I thought I was doing a pretty good job, Tim.
The monarchy owns all the swans.
Good up.
I'm so glad we brought you up.
Outstanding.
I still don't believe either of you now.
The only thing that's changed is I now I think two people in the room are lying to me instead of one about swans.
So we're at the wedding.
We've moved past the swans and there's this diamond-encrusted cake and I like to imagine a situation in which someone goes to the married couple.
Oh, how was the wedding?
And they say, oh yeah.
okay until everyone started eating
the cake and they ate the
diamonds and it's
ripped up their intestines. Oh my God.
And it's on it actually really put
a blight on the weekend. I mean it was so lovely
and beautiful. We had swans. They're not
swans though. They're the queen swans. We had swans
on loan. From the bloody queen.
But you know, you can imagine the ambulance
drivers show, the paramedics showing up. What's
going on here? Just a bunch of well-dressed people
clutching their stomach.
Shouldn't they eat all that cake? And they go,
are you feeling a bit
you got a sore thumb
because you ate too much cake
and it's not what you think
it's not the...
Do you think they're really diamonds
on the cake?
Yes and I think
that these people
are so bloody jacked up
on Mouet and Christian Dior
don't even look at what
they're putting in their mouths
Do they just see stuff
and they're like...
50 poor people serve this to me
so it must be acceptable
this is how I eat
that's how many people
it takes for them to actually eat
they need 50 people to bring out
to approve one meal
for a rich person
and verify it.
But they won't look at it
because that would waste too much time.
They're too busy crashing the stock market.
Looking at your food is for poor people.
That's what they say.
They've all got it tattooed on their backs.
Midriffs.
That's why you don't see a lot of back shots in the film
because it's distracting.
It's off-putting to see that sort of...
There is a bit in the movie that...
I don't think we've ever talked about
in the podcast before,
but when they're going to Abu Dhabi
and they're in the airport
in the United Arab Emirates,
and so we're approximately
5, 6 hours into the film at this point
Samantha gets stopped
by the security because she's got
hormones in her bag because she's
trying to stay off
the process of becoming an
old woman. We haven't also addressed that.
I don't know a lot of...
She's going through menopause. A lot about menopause
but I feel like you can't cheat it forever.
I don't think you can cheat it, period.
You can't run away from...
Gag. Thank you. Thanks for noticing.
It's a pun. It's very funny.
don't applaud his puns
do not
no you I mean
if you can't like you can't stop
aging I guess is the bigger
you know what's going to happen
it's going to be worse surely
well not the way she's doing
because sure what she's doing is using hormones
and yams
it would kind of be like if you had
if you were you had a flu right
so a flu's bad and it makes you feel terrible
but it's not going to kill you
and then you're like don't worry I've been putting
heaps of band-aids all over my body
It's like a retarded solution
to a problem that isn't even really a problem.
A flu isn't like a, you beat a flu
and you get through the flu.
Yeah.
You can't just keep telling the flu not to arrive.
If the flu's going to come, you can't keep going,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't want you here.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, I don't have time.
Eventually, the flu has to get there.
And you're just going to be making it worse
because you'll be older and your body won't be as well equipped
to deal with it.
You should let your body process these things.
got HPV
because you didn't get that vaccine
that time and then you just
got it right? That's my understanding of the virus
when you get that you've got it right
and then you and then
yeah and then that's you
so let's use that as an example
well I feel like we've reached the logical end point
of what I was explaining which I don't think
so they're in the airport
Samantha's doing herself any favours here
so Samantha's trying to get on the record
as saying I don't think Samantha's doing the right thing
she's trying to get these hormones through
let me be the first
to say it. You're going to laugh
when you hear what small
a point I am about to
make and what a long road
we took to get there. But
the Middle Eastern people are
talking amongst themselves presumably in Arabic
and one of them says they're like
pointing out who it is who's got the drugs
in their bear because they need to kind of screen them and take
them off them. And one of them says,
Dracula?
Which is
a funny joke. Because they're
like, they're insinuating that Samantha
is Dracula for, as you rightly
saying, trying to postpone the aging
process can't be done. She is a vampire.
That was the big...
That's all I wanted to say.
That's a compliment to the filmmakers.
What, then we took that long to explain that?
No, that they snuck in a joke.
You've been secretly enjoying, hiding away every week.
I've been enjoying this joke in private,
not telling me about it.
How do you think that makes me feel betrayed?
We should share the moments we like.
You can't do sneaking off with your favourite jokes from the movie,
not share...
If I find a joke I like,
I go, Tim, you might like this too.
You've heard Dracula though, haven't you?
You've laughed at Dracula, haven't you?
Guy.
I've heard it.
I didn't think it was funny
because you didn't explain to me
how it could be funny.
I thought you would have got it.
So did I.
I'm usually pretty good at picking up
jokes.
I like, as long as they're not
detailed character descriptions
from Ghostbusters,
which I do struggle with.
As you well know,
what else is written on that hand?
Wedding drummer.
which is a classic.
Oh, wedding drama.
Do you remember what that is?
Yeah.
You go.
I don't know if we've talked about it
before on the podcast or not.
At the wedding,
where lies manlias and the swans,
the aforementioned queen swans,
there's a drummer who's playing
as part of a live band.
The man is taking the fucking piss.
Yeah.
So they've got a drum kit
that's separated into two parts.
And in one part there's like
high hat, sneer, bass drum,
a couple of rack toms there.
And then,
Separate to that, so that guy's on a, like a throne, normal set up, basically, without the symbols.
And then separately to that, there's another guy who's standing beside him with two symbols,
and he's doing like air drumming.
And there at no point is any remote chance of connection between the drumsticks and the symbols.
And it has fucked me off to no end since the first time I saw the goddamn movie.
It is infuriating.
You could drive a fucking 18 wheeler
and the space the guy leaves
between the drumstick and the symbol.
It's outrageous.
I understand why they're doing it
because you're doing a live record with Liza Manali.
You don't want to have sound in there.
You've got to get a clean edit, right?
You've got to get her voice
so that you can do all the mix down later.
You can get closer to the fucking symbols
than that guy did.
You're an actor.
You're in a very successful franchise.
I think this can be explained away
and I do get the feeling this has upset you in some way.
I'm very good at picking up on hints
hints and jokes
that's what I'm known for picking up on
very well known for it
I think what's happened is in the world
this guy he's bloody bluffed his way into a job
you know he's trying to make ends meet
now hold on introduce what world are we in here
the actor is bluffed his way into the movie
or the drummer is bluffed his way into the wedding
and he's having a pretty big panic attack mate
he didn't know he was going to be playing with Lysmanelli
this is just a weekend gig he's a student
He's got debts, he's got problems, you know
He suddenly shows up at the wedding
Everything's going perfectly
He's in the background just fucking, you know
He's borrowed the drum kit from his brother
His brother doesn't know he's got it
He can't leave any marks on those new symbols
He'll be, you know
Look at all kinds of trouble
That would be such a tough call
If you like, have managed to get yourself
Into a scenario where Liza Manali's there
But you've stolen half of your brother's drum kit
And you know he's going to know
If you touch it
The way this guy's gone about dealing with his life problems
He's not taking them head on
What was his fucking plan though?
Because he knew he couldn't touch him the entire time.
It's not like Liza Minnelli changed that situation.
So what he did is he had a recording
of the exact time that you were meant to play
the symbols in his pocket
that was going to play out through like a little
one of those Bluetooth speakers
so everyone would think he was playing the symbols.
So he's rocking a little...
He's got a logitech boombox in his pocket back there.
And that's why he never said shot up him from the back
because it's very bulky, it's ungainly.
It just seems bold to me because it's a live performance.
That's what I'm going to see.
Yeah, I mean, and he's not happy.
Who is this champion?
I don't know.
And furthermore, he's ballsy enough to try and attempt that.
How scary is his older brother?
His name is Sawyer Tomlinson.
And he's a sophomore at Pepperdine University.
Pepper Dine.
Yeah, he's doing English lit.
But he doesn't really want to be an English.
Pepper Dine University.
Yeah.
Go Peppers.
The Pepper Dine Peppers.
The football team.
Yeah, they're really good.
in a good year. Big game against Yale this
weekend. Yeah, the Yale yams. It's going to be
a hell of a match up, the Peppers vests the Yams.
This is, of course, in the Vegetable League, not in the
actual, this isn't the NCAA.
This is just, um, this is
the, it's a more gentle version
of football. It's not football. What happened? There's a cooking
show. Do you know what I like about the vegetable league,
though? They actually pay the fucking students.
Yeah. Which, let me... In vegetables.
Let me send in my soapbox for a moment
and say they deserve to get all the veggies they can eat.
Well, well done. You watched a John Oliver clip on the
internet.
and listen to a couple podcasts of some other stuff.
Yeah, no, that drummer shits me.
But I think that you were...
My theory.
Your theory holds water, mate.
Yeah, I just wanted to alleviate some of the tension.
You're obviously carrying.
Yeah, thanks to you.
That was a bad watch.
I mean, it was exciting knowing that we had a live audience.
We both almost fell asleep because we're watching it in a very dark room on a tablet with each of us with headphones in.
It's kind of cute, though.
It was like we were a couple.
And they were doing the karaoke song where they sing I Am Woman Hemie Roy,
I had my eyes shut and I was singing to keep me awake and pumping my arm.
And it was the best feeling I've had all day was when I had my eyes shut and the movie was on.
Have you had a Sex and the City 2 dream yet?
No.
I don't know if I, I probably had a grown-ups, I don't really remember my dreams.
I want to keep a dream journal, but I have never gotten around to it.
It's too much work.
Have you had a Sex and City 2 dream?
Not that I can remember.
I have really, my dreams don't make any sense.
though. Some people's dreams are related to...
You're so unique. You're such a unique snowflake.
That's what I think, too. I'm pretty
confident that everyone else has perfectly
coherent normal dreams. Some people
do. Some people dream about really boring, mundane shit, like their jobs.
Not this guy, though. It's a bloody waste. Not me.
I'm flying down to the centre of the earth
questioning what the gravitational field will do
to my body once I hit. That was a dream mate.
That was real. That was a conversation we had
about not ten minutes ago.
Oh, good God. I need to sober up.
got a show later tonight. I'm doing a show
right now, technically. Yeah, you are. You should
address that show right now. What does she's an
assassin mean? Um,
she, she's an assassin.
I've just, oh yeah, I've got that. I even remember
as I was writing it saying to you, if I write down
she's an assassin, will that be enough of a note? And it clearly isn't.
Yeah, it is. So at the wedding, we
took a lot of notes at the way. I mean, this wedding
does, it's a marathon. It's a, it goes
for four weeks. In the
movie, that is. It's not in real
time. It's insane. You can't have a four week
movie, I mean, you just wouldn't get through it.
But, so there's, at one point,
Big and Carrie, they meet a couple.
And the couple, the wife
is a really big fan of Carrie's writing.
And she says,
she's like, I am, I am you.
She's like, ha-ha, I know.
So, we're the same.
Yeah, we're the same. We did the same thing.
We have the same dating record.
Yeah. We saw the same horrible kinds of men.
And then we got married around the same time.
Yeah. We're the same. But then she says,
no, no, I am you.
Yeah.
She's like that
Like she stops carrying your tracks
She's like no you don't understand Missy
Missy New York writer
I am you
You go what what do you mean
Yeah
I am you
I'm gonna steal your fucking face
I'm taking identity fraud
To the next level
I'm really glad you liked my books
You can buy it
I've got I do do
I've already made a passport
With your details in it
It's a flawless replica
No no really
I look I have a wonderful
wedding. I've scammed your credit card
love. It was really nice to... And I'm British.
I'm British and I'm angry love.
I drink cups of tea and I get
furious about the smallest things
and I am you.
No, you're not... Oh no, you've poisoned
my champagne. I'm dead.
That's how I would have liked to see the movie go.
It's such a... And then it's this different
movies because it's that lady's just masquerading
around as... She's in Abu Dhabi with the gals going
Jesus. This is the
worst life. You've got the worst
friends, Carrie Bradshaw. It'd be like a
really terrible version of face off.
Yeah, because, but the thing is she could, so she
like, there's no actual legal ramifications
for killing Carrie and chopping off her face
and becoming her, like no one notices.
Right. But she has to live with the realisation
that Carrie Bradshaw's life is terrible.
Her marriage is falling apart.
What a quandary. Yeah. And I mean, what do you do?
You can't just go back to your old life.
I actually reckon I'd turn myself in.
If I became an assassin and stole
someone's identity and ripped their face off,
and put it on top of mine
and got away with it
and then discovered
it was a really boring life
and be like you know what
I'm clear my conscience
and hand myself in
but you've destroyed all the evidence
there is no paper trail
there's no way of verifying
that you are not in fact
the person that you've become
Well I hate to bring science
into the equation
but I think you could do a DNA test
No you can't
Why?
Because this is a hypothetical situation
in which you cannot do a DNA test
I hate it when you do that guy
Okay
Stop down for a second
Because this really fucks me off in movies
too
movies. You can't just say something is
the way it is. It's like, no, give me
a reason steeped in the universe that I
live in to explain that. Part of handplay.
You're a nightmare. How do you get through
any movies? Tell me
that the
assassin which is trying to take over Carrie Bradshaw
has spliced her genomes
and is like taken on her DNA
now as well. Okay, she's spliced
her genomes and taken on her DNA
now. There is DNA
in this hypothetical situation
because I know that's how you like it. You turn
yourself in. This is what I'm saying to you.
The police say, no, no, no, no.
You're Carrie Bradshaw.
I don't know. And you've lost your mind.
It was my carry, apparently, yep.
And then you're putting a psych ward.
Yeah. That's often what happens.
So would you rather be in a psych ward
with this identity as Carrie Bradshaw or holiday
for the rest of your life with the girls?
I am going to say psych ward.
Yeah.
You've seen Miranda. It's more peaceful.
It would be a non-stop paraded
Did you know that the biggest lake in the surrounding region
fucking, who gives a shit, man?
Why do I holiday with me?
I'd rather hang out with some dude who's like,
done some shit.
And like, shivd a dude with a Coke can.
Yeah.
So if you, like, if you were...
Or someone who thinks something really interesting,
like, they honestly believe they're a magician
and that's why they got admitted.
But not a good kind of magician, a bad kind of magician.
And he thinks that he's, like, turned his wife into a chicken.
But it turns out he was never married.
He just got a chicken.
and is insane
and was like
oh no
where's my wife
oh my god
this chicken
where did this car
oh my god
I'm an evil magician
I've turned my wife
into a chicken
this is like a rap song
doesn't it
that's really good
you're a funny guy
thanks
I really like you
can I look at your hand please
oh you want more notes
the next one says
oh this one's for me
oh no remote throat
this one I don't think
we've delved into
on mic before
but we bring it up
every time we watch the movie
how much time do we have
by the way
oh good we're good
So, Mr. Big, John, what's his last name?
Preston, sorry.
You'd think I'd have it by now, huh?
It's not important.
Eight times, folks.
Eight times.
Mr. Big is watching TV, and it's just one shot, and he's, like, watching it, and he changes
the channel, and then he just throws the remote away, which is fucking redundant.
Like, the remote's supposed to stay with you.
Three or four metres from his...
He throws it away, like, when you're a teenager, and you text someone you like, and then
you're like, oh, better not hold this phone.
they won't text back and you throw it across the room.
That's how far he throws this remote.
Do you reckon that was an offer by Chris Knoth while they were filming?
Or do you think that was the character?
Hey, it'd be pretty funny if I just threw the remote across.
How wacky would that be?
How wacky would that be?
Why did I do that?
That's such a weird thing to do.
That'll teach you, John.
But it didn't fit into the runtime of infinity.
They couldn't get it in it.
They couldn't squeeze it in there.
Yeah, I mean, you're right for that to bother you.
Well, we might as well, actually, I think we should do some shining lights.
You had one laid on in the piece.
I've got a few.
I love the movie.
Yeah.
For a lot of reasons.
Plot twist.
Here's my reason today.
We see Samantha Jones at work.
at her PR firm without panties on
not my shunning light, not a dirty dog
there is a shot
You're a dirty dog
I'm not a dirty dog
I'm not
You're a dirty dog
You're a filthy
You're a dirty muddard
You're a mud dog
You love the mud dog
You're a dirty muck dog
You love you've been rolling around in the mud
You're a dirty dog
You are
As you were
Samantha's computer screen
Is in shot for a brief second
And let me tell you something
Guys that operating system isn't Mac
nor is at Windows.
I'm pretty sure Samantha Jones is running her PR operation
from a Linux-based machine.
And I was so stoked when I saw that.
This unique user interface that I am not very familiar with.
I'm assuming it's Linux.
Because what else is it going to be, right?
She's got like a full desktop set up on Android
that she skinned herself.
I think not.
Fucking Linux, man.
Samantha Jones, yes.
She's saving money on license.
licensing fees
she's working with a platform where she can build
her own applications and stuff
and then put it out in the community on GitHub
and people can like recode certain bits
for it and shit like I love that
yes
is Linux good or bad? It's good
it's open source brother it's the future
it's a minority because it's a little tricky to
kind of get in there kind of a high learning curve on that thing
but uh oh wow
I'm very happy that Samantha's taking the plunge at some point
yeah it's really that is really
It was surprising as well
because she didn't strike me
as like the most technologically able person
In the movie
By all accounts the rest of her career
As a PR specialist
Is falling apart at the scenes
Yeah
She's got blind faith in an author
With no books left in it
Don't worry
It'll be fine
We got a bad review
Ah
It'll be fine
Tell him to go fuck himself
Those are her words
She says he would be better advised
To go fuck himself
That's not really a solution
To a public relations issue
Pretty sassy insult though
Very sassy
That was my shining light
That was a good shining line.
Much better than mine.
Mine was, there's a gentleman at the science fair,
a parent who's watching the award ceremony when Miranda shows up
to watch her son win for the moustrap or whatever.
A mouse maze.
A mouse maze.
A mousetrap.
I haven't been a mous trap.
No, you haven't, Brady, you idiot.
You're the stupidest kid in the class.
You've just brought in a mous trap and told everyone you've made it.
I can understand how you're confused it to.
There's still a barcode and a sticker on the box.
Well, neither of them serve any scientific purpose.
as we've reprimed.
You know what's really
like the crime about that?
Brady is a redhead kid
and there's not a lot of redhead kids
in films that are real heroes
and here in Sex and the City too
they had an opportunity.
A franchise made famous
in the 1990s by putting
four women together
as the centrepiece of the show
really shining a light
on stars who aren't usually stars
they could have done this
with the sequel to the movie
of all of the horrible shit they did
they could have taken a stand and gone
you know what?
kids are okay. And some of them
are real smart. Brady's got a
spin-off web series called Science with Brady.
Yeah, but it's stupid.
That's the thing. He's like, hey, here's some
science. A sponge. Look what happens
when we put it in water. It gets heavier.
Yeah. It's a sponge, Brady.
It's absorbent. You've got to stop going so
hard on this kid. He's eight. I'm hard
on the movie and it's representation
of redhead kids.
You are.
Sorry, I have to veg. You were going somewhere
it's okay it's just there was a parent there who wasn't the parent of brady and he's watching on and you can see just the fury in his eyes when brady wins for his mouse maze like my i spent fucking four weeks with my child soaking an egg and vinegar so that the shell would be removed from it and we explained in vivid detail how this works and how the enzymes broke away the egg and it's still soft like it's you can touch it but the egg is within it and there's no shell i haven't seen that done well this is why i haven't seen that done well this is why i
it should win the prize. You've seen a mouse
mace before. This guy is furious.
What you don't, he pulls out a gun, starts
shooting up the school. It's
insanity. All insects
in the city too? Buried right in the middle.
He's in a suit. He looks like an outstanding gentleman.
I don't think he'd have a gun on him.
But I'm interested about this vinegar egg situation.
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So do you
I did it in year seven, I don't remember.
Is it room temperature or do you have to boil the air?
You put the egg in vinegar.
Just the normal egg?
Just go home, get out of pirates.
Has anyone done it?
Guys making shit up, man?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
This is a true thing.
Everybody go home, fill up a bowl with vinegar,
put an egg in it.
Hold on.
White or malt? Or doesn't it matter?
I was 11 or something, man.
I was 8, I was 11.
Sound little sketchy, bruh.
I never said I was 8. I never said I was 8.
And first of all, if I said I was 8 and I've been 11, those are both facts.
I've been those ages indisputably.
If you to come in here and try and blow up my understanding of time and aging
and the linear progression of humanity, you've got me there.
I really do.
Buy the balls, no less.
I'm so glad that the shining light
has thrown some positivity into the podcast.
I was worried we were getting a little too negative.
And on that rich vein of negativity,
I'd like to bring up the inter-frenchine line
because I think you said today
that it was the most offensive line in cinema.
I said it was the most poorly written line
in cinema.
One of them says that they're going to run an inter-Frenchin.
We've probably talked about this before.
An inter-Frenchin is when your friend
is doing something you don't agree with
and you want to run an into friend.
It's not like they're not addicted to smacker,
or anything. You're just like, oh, stop
worrying about that.
And then the
line is, so Charlotte
says that. And it's
funny, when Charlotte says it, they don't take Charlotte
seriously at all the girls. They've got no respect for her
whatsoever. She says it, and then there's a cutaway
shop to see her Jessica Paga who's just like,
okay, Charlotte, you go.
Like, you know,
not like, you know, she doesn't really care
for what Charlotte has to say. And then it cuts to Miranda.
Yes, and Miranda says,
I'm going to turn this into Frenchen
into an interfunction.
And she does it like that
with the...
You can't see on the podcast, obviously,
but the people in the room can see.
She waves her hands in the air
and kind of a gun motion
like she's about to put it through her own head
and shoot herself
through the fucking temple
for saying the silliest thing you can.
And she's wearing like a neon green bandana
like a pirate from the 90s.
It's honestly...
There's some picture painting for you.
Yeah.
So vivid.
But yeah, I mean, it's just...
It's so like...
Portmanteaus, at the best of times, are a risky manoeuvre.
This is the thing about combining two words.
I've walked around with you before, I remember,
and you talked to me for five to ten minutes about how much you love portmanteaus.
I love it, because they're a risky manoeuvre,
and I love high-risk manoeuvres.
I like things that have a great chance of not pulling off,
and when they do, you get an obscene reward for it.
Now, in this movie, they've rolled the dice by combining the words,
friendship and...
Intervention.
Thank you.
intervention, and they've rolled the dice
and they've lost. They've got snake eyes.
And then what they've done is they've gone
double or nothing, motherfucker.
And I'm going to combine the words
fun and intervention.
And then it failed again.
That portmanteau might not want to fly it the first time,
but what we need is a different F word.
Double down on the portmanteau.
A different one-syllable F word.
And whilst I admire Michael Patrick King's
gambling behaviour,
he's lost.
And he needs to admit it.
and he needs to pick it back up somewhere in the script.
We want a written apology from Michael Patrick King
by Monday morning, or we will be filing
a class action lawsuit. Or we put you back in that basement
with your bottles of whisking and your cigars.
Send you back in the basement and make you write a third one, you fucking slippery fish.
How much money do you think it would take for them to make a third?
There is not enough money in the world
for those people to get back together and make another movie.
It does not look like...
You watch grown-ups too, and you're like,
these guys had fun making this movie.
I was speaking of thanks to everyone who sent us
the links to the Native American actors
who have walked off set in Adam Sandler's new picture
because the jokes were that offensive
that's a high bar right
because you're going in there as a native
presumably a proud Native American actor
you know a little bit what you're in for
because it's Adam Sandler
how outrageous were the jibes
how racist were the jokes
that they caught them off guard so much
they were like I actually can't
not be here anymore.
This cash cow isn't worth it.
I've got something called spirit and soul
and dignity and pride
and I cannot exchange that
for the obscene amount of money
Adam Sand was offering. Did you read any of the articles?
Certainly not.
No, it was on the internet. You don't read articles on the
internet. But you've formed a pretty detailed
opinion of what happened just from the
one sentence involved. I don't read any...
I don't read. I can't read.
Let me tell you something.
Come on, Montgomery, let me tell you something, mate.
This is how the internet functions.
It's a whole lot of headlines, and then fill a text.
It's like Latin or whatever.
It's what they put in movies before they know what they're going to...
And what you do is you click on the ones with the interesting headline,
and then you have the tab open for maybe one to two weeks,
and then it clogs up your desktop, and you're like, you know what?
I don't think I'm going to get around a reading.
I don't even remember why I opened those in the first place.
And you close all of them.
But then that night at a party
when you're in conversation with someone
they bring up the article
which she sort of thought you might read at one point
and you go, oh yeah, I read that
because you did.
If it's in a newspaper you read the whole article
but if it's online you don't. I thought everyone knew that.
There's too many options. There's such cruel bastards
computers.
Here's an opportunity to do
and learn anything and create anything
and then it's like all you wind up doing is walking
through the boulevards of people's
social media accounts
and your own insecurities online.
It's a disaster.
You need to get on Reddit, friend.
I still haven't been on Reddit.
That is, I'm gobsmacked.
Well, unsmack that gobb, friend.
It'll ruin you.
I've got a second shining light.
Okay, I'm just having a quick look at.
What are you looking at?
I wrote a note on my phone as well
because you're running out of room on your hands.
I'm going to text message too.
It's all go down here.
Oh, when's the next show down here?
It's six.
It's me, I think.
It's fine.
How are you guys doing?
Yeah.
It's not like they're watching sex in the city.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm really glad we did this.
This is a really good investment.
It was a really good idea to spend $20 in my disposal.
I'm watching two people talk about, watching sex in the city too for that.
What are you doing, honestly?
What are you doing?
Look at yourselves.
We don't ask that question enough on the podcast, and especially not in the live records,
but what are you people doing?
We don't have a choice anymore because we made a snap decision,
and now we're tricked in our own prison
but you guys could leave at any point
do not
you're like a mix of Andy Dufrain
and Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz
and that you're in the prison
and at first you didn't like the walls
and then you couldn't live without the walls
but like Dorothy the power is in you all the time
to leave
the power was in Andy Drafain the whole time
he was planning to leave that whole time as well
but it was so hard
because he had to keep digging with the...
You didn't need to bring Dorothy into the equation.
No, no, but what I'm saying...
What more glittering example of willpower do you need
than tunneling through a prison wall with a spoon?
No, what I'm saying is,
where Andy Dufrane, there, Dorothy.
Because they can just stop being on the journey.
Like Dorothy could.
She didn't know, but she had it within her the whole time.
You're Dorothy, you're visiting us.
It's like a conjugal visit.
You come into our cell.
We have sex, and then you're like, okay, I've got to go back to Oz now,
and we're like, we'll go back to tunneling out of prison.
Don't tell the guards.
So my second shining light was,
Carrie Bradshaw's got an amazing little piece of fashion
that she rocks out when she's in the marketplaces of Abu Dhabi,
and it's a pair of sunglasses that are on a stick,
similar to like a masquerade ball-style facial mask that you would wear
at a high-class party.
A masquerade ball.
For example.
yes but for sunglasses it sounds better if you spot the second two words in the
same time it sounds less redundant yeah yeah it's a good trick of then so she's like almost you've
almost learned it's incredibly impractical but it's kind I dig it because that's fashion baby
fashion's about doing stuff that's like does this make sense not really but I'm going to do it
anyway. That is fashion.
Isn't it? Isn't that the definition of fashion?
Yeah, it's formed before function. It's like
people are going to wonder why I'm doing this.
Which makes it fashion?
Yeah. Do you have a second shining
light? What do you think? I'm made of
moments of enjoyment? I really like Mr. Big's
delivery, the first line he says in the movie
which is, how's my tie?
How's my tie? The way he asks
it though, is just like, he just is such an alpha.
It drips out of his mouth.
How's my tie?
And then Carrie comes and ruins the line by saying,
How's my time?
And Carrie is wearing the most ridiculous outfit
with the most ridiculous crimped hair.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
This is another thing with fashion.
We've probably talked about it.
I've got no memory of what we've talked about it before.
But it's like, you know what?
You put these...
Do you know what, guy?
What?
From henceforth, we will stop apologising
for saying stuff twice.
Okay.
Yeah, it's kind of the nature of the project.
Fuck all of you.
Go on.
Who would have thought we'd repeat ourselves
in a project in which we watched the same movie
every week.
Didn't see that coming.
I want my money back.
It's just you put, you know,
you put all these fashion trends
because fashion moves so quickly,
you know, if you make a movie
which is entire premises
will just put them in a bunch
of different expensive outfits
to sell them.
Like, of course they're going to date poorly
because in fashion,
this movie was made in what, 2010,
in fashion five years is like,
you know, a decade.
Two twice as long.
Dave Cormack had a,
he had a good joke about that
which was, it was something
along the lines of like fashion
is something so stupid that even
it gets disgusted with itself
has to reinvent every six months.
That was a nice way of looking at the
whole industry, you know?
Yeah.
Good point to have. Good social commentary you borrowed from a mate.
Thanks, I thought so too.
You don't ascribe to the idea of
fashion, do you? No, I'm just joking, you look great.
No, fuck yourself. I look amazing.
You do. We both look good actually.
I look so cool. I'm wearing a bean in. That's fashion.
It's good. Does there need to be something on
my head? No, therefore, fashion.
well done
it's not serving a purpose
am I cold
new
fashion
I have one more note
and then we better do
what's he doing
where's he off to
oh you ruined it
you can't say it before we both say it
I think I said it wrong
and I'm not going to remember it
good okay
we'll roll the dice later
we'll make like Michael Patrick King
and roll the bloody dice
so it's when they're having the anniversary dinner
big and Carrie having a good old meal
and it turns out we've always looked at it
and be like that is a very sad meal
that's like he's just picked up the
end of like the bin-end bread
like that pulley ham and cheese
pull apart you get at the end of the day from New World
for like $2.99 down from
$4.99. If you're familiar with your
exclusively New Zealand, South Island
low-income supermarket chains.
What did I say? Bin-in.
No bin-ins.
Oh shit. Okay.
Less niche. I'm glad I went
there though. Anyway. This one's for you.
South Island. He's honestly prepared
the saddest dinner in the world.
They each got a sausage roll
and half a stale loaf of bread
and like a goblet of cask wine.
This is all because Biggs losing a lot of money on the
stock market. And then
he sits there like Carrie's obviously
not enjoying it. There's food still all over
her plate and he looks up and with her these big eyes
with so much pride and he goes
haven't I made us a delicious
anniversary meal?
And I just wanted to say no.
This is why I want to eat.
eat out. This is one of the fundamental problems
with our marriage. It looks like
he's bought a sausage roll. Yeah.
Two sausage rolls. It's insane.
It's crazy. You can't do that on
someone's anniversary. In his defense.
I think a minimum if you're at like
an anniversary situation because it's the second
wedding anniversary. It's some kind of pasta dish
right. But are you guys together?
How long have you been together for?
Three and a half months or years?
Years. So like what
For two years? Let's say
What do you have for dinner?
the two-year anniversary.
I'm not being
gender typical here.
I'm going to ask you
because in the movie
Mr. Bigger's the one
who cooks the meal
but can I ask you
what would be like
the baseline of what this dude
would need to cook for you
to, you know,
make the requirements
for a two-year anniversary.
It's not sausage.
A $100 Angus steak
was the answer there.
I like that it was a dollar value.
Not even a prime cut
or like a well-cooked
just like
you better put $100 down
on some fucking
fancy meat for me you son of a bitch
we're putting up with your shit for two
years now. It'd be so great if you tried
to trip him up though it'd be like
the base minimum is a $600
hamburger. I literally
don't know how to make it.
I'll put diamonds in the bread.
Anyway
the one good thing that Mr. Bigg
King of callbacks, Guy Montgomery.
The one good thing that Mr. Big did
at the anniversary was he was playing
Erica Bardue which is
fantastic. Classy move. It's a classy move
It sets a classy vibe.
Erica, if you're listening, we'd love to have you on the podcast.
Just drop me a DM on Twitter at Guy underscore Mott.
Like, you know, this way, because I was going to do a joke,
if she actually does listen, I'd better give my real handle.
This just in.
I'm messaging someone who's, you know, anyway.
I'm changing the dial on the radio.
Where's he going?
Where's he off to?
I really fuck that one up.
Getting closer every time.
We nailed it last week.
We didn't stick the landing this time.
No confidence.
Do you know what happened this week,
which is pretty funny,
is Tim and I were saying something to each other
and looked away from the screen
to talk about it for like,
probably, I don't know, three to five seconds.
We missed his entire cameo.
Yeah.
Like, we did it.
We're going to make a star out of this guy.
barely features in the film at all.
We should find that
who he is. He's the new Tanya.
I never thought about that. Do you know what happened this week
Tim? Yeah. He knew
that the girls were going to be having lunch there because
they had lunch at the same time every week.
And he was like, you know what? Fuck it.
I'm not going back to the cafe. I hate
hate overhearing their
conversations. They bring their rat back
kids in here. I'm going to get my
caffeine fixed somewhere else. He's wandering
the streets of New York right now, just looking for a cafe
without them. It's so cute that in your
brain somewhere, there's still that
understanding of television being a small
box that tiny people are in performing
for you every time?
That's the best way to think about it.
It's everyone, all shows, all of those
universes and worlds are still existing
right now. It's whimsical,
but you're a grown-ass man.
You should know better, friend.
Yeah.
You should know better than the...
So in this edition...
Don't let me finish.
In this edition... I didn't want to, so it's good that you didn't.
where's he going
like I had no desire to get to the end of that sentence
it's going to be a shitter
it's going to be a bad sentence
your theory is
off you go
he's fucked off why don't you start talking
he's fucked off prematurely
because he knew that the woman were coming
his way he's got to the schedule
he's noticed that they go to the same cafe
at the same internet to him every week
and he was like I cannot
I've got a very important meeting
I cannot handle having that distraction
because he goes in there
and he can't do his work that he's meant to do
he just sits there and listens to their conversation
and he's just like
you know when you hear
bad conversation near you and you can't focus
or like you can't have a conversation of your own you're just so
absorbed in these people who are nearby
that's what happens to him
and he's got a big pitch
for what he's pitching a movie
is he yeah what kind of movie
it's a silent film is this guy
in the is he in the talkies mate
he's in oh he's not in the silent film
but he's absolutely what he's not in
is the talkies
it's why he's so nervous because he's not a big
market for the silence
is that how the word movie got popularized
because you know how it's like
the pictures
and then it was the talkies
was it like the movies
just before it was the talkies?
Yeah and before that
it was the stills
and people just
that was the original photography
like a slide vacation
just got one photo
it wouldn't even change
that's an art installation
is what that is
yeah
art installation people are
they're lazy filmmakers
that's what I always say
artists are just lazy filmmakers
as well we know
Photographers are lazy
filmmakers
I'll go on the record
I may regret asking this
but I'm slightly curious
about what the silent film
was about that he's pitching
It's going to be a romp
The guy, he's not a good guy
I mean he knows not to like those ladies
But he's not necessarily a good person
Is a snuff film
Well I have to know
I didn't see that coming
He's pitching
He's pitching a silent snuff film
To Netflix as a Netflix special
Wow
And the reason he's so nervous
is he does not know the legality
of the operation and it's not like
it's a doco
it's a silent snuff doco
and this guy's like if I go in there and bomb this pitch
and do not get these people on board with what I'm
saying immediately I'm going to be put
away for a very long time
so he's already made it yes so he's killed
someone and filmed it and then he's like
if I can turn this into a picture and sell it to Netflix
we're sweet bro
I think he kind of thinks
if he can sell it as art it will alleviate
the guilty feels
It was his husband
He killed his husband
Wow
Anyway that's why
You're in a dark spot man
He is
I wasn't that's not me
That's not me talking
That's another guy
That's not
You know
He's a guy from the movie
Well I
I hate to end things on such a dark night
But I think they should
Probably about do it for us this week
Do you want to say anything positive
To wrap up on
Thank you all so much for coming out and listening
And thank you for downloading
The New Zealand International Comedy Festival
is happening right now
and we've both booked out ridiculously long runs
for our solo shows.
It was a bad idea, folks.
No, it's good.
It was a bad idea, because here's how maths works.
When you've got a few people who want to come see your show,
you do one show and they all come to it.
If you book yourself for three weeks in a room,
you're spreading those very few people over a number of days
and you end up performing to two people a night.
And I'll tell you what?
Not so great for the standout.
It's good. It's good for the stand-up.
It's good for morale.
But we're going to be here at the Monte Cristo
for the next few weeks.
So if you're listening and you're in New Zealand,
come on down.
My show's called Guymont Comedy.
You can look it up on the internet.
It's a great name, I know.
And my one, second night to night, I already regret the title.
Timbath explores the human experience.
Great title, Tim.
Thanks, bro.
What's the show about?
I still am not a hundred percent sure.
It's actually, I've come to realize,
maybe this isn't the best ad for it,
but it's less comedy and more matches getting some stuff out.
That is the worst.
bitch. Yeah, I know.
But I want to be truthful. More than I want to sell tickets,
I want to be truthful. So
if you feel like you want to be a part of that,
come on in.
All right. Thank you
so much for listening, everybody. Don't watch the movie.
I don't think we've said that enough on this season.
Oh! Before we go.
Paul Blatt,
Moore Kopp, too.
Poor Blart. Whatever.
It actually doesn't matter.
We've been receiving a lot of feedback.
A lot of feedback. People want us to watch this movie.
people want us to do it for season three
that's not going to happen
because I'm pretty sure season three is not going to happen
but I reckon we should
it's not coming out for a cinema release here
but I reckon we should find a way to watch the movie
and do a bonus episode
yeah yeah you're on board
yeah I'm 100% on board too
yeah they're excited okay
well that's it from us thank you all so much
for listening and for coming
appreciate it have a good night
that's the show take care
and we'll see you next week
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