The Worst Idea Of All Time - Review: Nacho Libre

Episode Date: September 6, 2018

This film was selected by the Decider's Club at Patreon.com/TWIOAT.You picked it so they watched. It's time for a critical analysis of the Jack Black vehicle Nacho Libre, written and directed by the guy who made Napoleon Dynamite. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Peloton all-access membership separate. Learn more at onepeloton.ca slash running. No one has bigger dreams than Nacho. When you are a man, sometimes you wear stretchy pants. He's for fun. But to become a champion... I would like that kind of respect. He's for fun. But to become a champion... I would like that kind of respect. ...he'll need strength...

...speed... ...and style. And now, hammer them! The orphans, they need me. He'll become their hero. From the director of Napoleon Dynamite and the writer of School of Rock, Jack Black. Natural Libre. That didn't hurt.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the latest Patreon watch. This is where Timbo and Guy Guy get a film selected by the good people on patreon.com slash T-W-I-O-A-T. If you're hiffing through to us, ten bucks or more, you get to be part of the Deciders Club and see what we're going to watch. I tell you what, not a lot of heat this week, Guy Montgomery, on the voting. Oh, well there you go. That's probably how we wound up in such dire straits as we have. I don't know if this was thrown to us as a life raft or some sort of mercy offering, but I have just endured, as I know you have, Tim, the 2006 film,

the follow-up to the very popular Napoleon Dynamite by director and writer Jared Hess and his partner in crime and life, Jerusha Hess, Nacho Libre. Am I saying that correctly? Nacho Libre. Yep, that works too. Nacho Libre. I am displaying the same amount of care and delicacy to the Spanish language

as the filmmakers and actors did. Libre from memory means free. And I don't know where... I mean, what's the title? I don't even know. His name was Nacho. No, his name's Ignatius. Was it?

Yeah, exactly. His wrestling name is Nacho. No, his name's Ignatius. Was it? Yeah, exactly. His wrestling name is Nacho, perhaps. I mean, I've just watched the film, and I can't even verify if that's true. This was a Nickelodeon movie. This was, of course, made before the global financial crisis, where a plucky young 18-year-old still living at home could walk into a bank with his promise of a first payslip, not even a even a pay slip and walk out of there with a bank of new zealand visa credit card loaded

up with twelve thousand dollars of uh debt facility people were throwing money all over the place and of course napoleon dynamite had done very well at the cinema they thought yeah blank check go for it guys jack black's a bankable star it was a different time actually That's one question I was wondering Where does this fit into Jack Black's Sort of oeuvre You know his filmography Because I feel like he might have been on a downward trajectory At this point No not at all actually

He was still regarded as a bankable star He's appearing in this on the back of King Kong Which he'd Appeared in 2005 People bemoaned King Kong, which he'd appeared in in 2005. And prior to that... People bemoaned King Kong, though. Yeah, I know, but it did well. Before that, School of Rock,

Shallow Hell, I mean, High Fidelity. So this is peak Jack Black, and maybe the beginning of the slippery slope towards mediocrity that we know and love him for today. The question I kept wondering, Tim, and have been dying to ask you is, is Jack Black funny? Oh, yeah. Credit where it's due. He's not like a thousand percent in the bullseye of what I'm looking for in a comedian.

But, you know, you've got to recognize, Game's got to recognize Game here. He's a fantastic physical performer, and there's a lot of things that on paper, it looks like this really would have worked. A lot of physical comedy. We're giving Jack Black a few excuses to bust out into his songs, his improv comedy songs,

and it feels like it should work but it also just feels like no one's having a lot of fun in this film it's got that same energy of napoleon dynamite except it's sort of it's like half a foot in half a foot out do you know you had uh i believe the young man's name was john header and he was so awkward so it was great it was like we were all in well also he was a not a known entity and so he had the opportunity to break out, and also it blurred the line between actor and character. Whereas in this one, when you've got a bankable star and you're just sort of watching Jack Black

hammered up in a series of failed set pieces, it's hard to really sink your teeth into what you're watching. It was, I mean, in a word, I knew it was mediocre, but even then, this was seriously underwhelming. And while we're on the topic of 2006, I'd love to ask, you know, what a fella like you, $12,000 armed on the credit card, what must be around the ripe old age of 18, 19,

what in God's name are you spending that money on? I didn't realise that you had seen through the ruse and established quite so quickly that that exemplar in my story was myself but yes it was look it was a scary time to be alive the banks didn't really know what was going on it had been a good or 80 years since the last Great Depression and I think they'd forgotten how money in the economy works to be honest so I was just rolling around with this big dick credit card burning a hole in my wallet. Moved out of home promptly after that, not using the debt per se, but using a job at the tax

department to ferry me away from the nest, which is the same way that I got the credit card. It was a heady time to be alive. I was living with my mate Tom at the time, who was also working at another government department call centre. Days spent hating our jobs, nights spent filled with alcohol and rabble-rousing in central Wellington. What's become of Tom today, do we know? Do we care to ask? Tom's a father. I actually saw him on the weekend, visited his wee boy, and he is working on his own terms now, you better believe.

He's in the private sector and he's really kicking ass and taking names and making a human, or he's made one. It's impressive stuff out there. Credit where it's due, I feel like Tom's contribution to the construction of the human was limited to probably one, maybe up to 50 nuts uh i would say as always

credit is truly owed to um the mother yeah no that's fair that's fair but you know they're both keeping keeping the wee boy alive hey guy could you uh give me a bit of a rapid fire what happened in nacho libre uh so you've got uh jack black or nacho as we'll call him he must be the titular nacho i don't know if it's his real name or his wrestling name but he's nacho he is a monk who since childhood has had a real affinity for uh wrestling i'm not sure of what the the luchador that's what it is uh luchador wrestling which is sort of you know that those those those famous uh face masks uh you know it's a mexican style of wrestling or you know uh certainly the theatrics are associated with with mexico and he he he's got a real ponchon for that uh but he grows up to be a sort of lousy and destitute cook at the monastery

uh providing you know gruel grade meals for hungry boys who don't really respect him or the food he prepares um no one really seems to care for this guy at the monastery and to be honest it's pretty easy to see why he's an uninspiring figure he's um he also refuses or just cannot speak in spanish i mean the whole time i was thinking either fucking put the movie in spanish or don't make the movie do or do not there is no half because like everyone else in the film presumably uh by the amount of talking they got to do and the accents uh native spanish speakers jack black the only one who's not it really did and this is part of it, the rules of the movie just weren't clear

it felt like the Hesses got their tails up after Napoleon Dynamite watched a Wes Anderson movie and said oh yeah, we'll do one of those and just dropped the ball across you know, just it was bad I didn't know when it was set

originally and that's always the risk with having sort of a um storyline involving quite such a level of poverty as like a poor orphanage out in the middle of nowhere so you got no points of reference for where where and when we are yeah and it'd be fair to say when was this set um i mean it's not important there's no phones but i think it's meant to be timeless this is regarded as an evergreen by the creators uh but i don't think this movie would be made now uh and also i'm sorry i just realized i didn't finish my plot synopsis i got sidetracked by complaining uh pretty much he uh a nun arrives at the monastery who he decides to fall in love with uh she presumably is just faffing around while she also decides to fall in love with him

throughout the film he starts wrestling because he gets a bag of corn chips stolen for the orphans by uh not a hoodlum but certainly you know a guy who's running around taking food from people i guess he needs it uh they form the style of a monkey yeah they form an unlikely duo as a wrestling pair they're amateur wrestlers they start getting paid even though they're losing his aspirations get ahead of him he wants to be a professional wrestler and win the heart of the nun and support the people at the monastery i mean that is the threadbare plot that we're given and i can see what they're going for where like if it's a simple story told well it can be really quite engaging and satisfying you know like if the characterization or the performances or the script are rich enough uh you know simplicity can be a

real virtue but this just made for a very very boring consecutive series of unfunny set pieces meandering towards something that I can't imagine anyone cared about. I don't think anyone involved in the filmmaking process really could have been too invested in the story because it's just so light L-I-T-E

a deliberate misspelling to convey how I feel Yeah that really came across in how you pronounced the word light. You'd missed the G and the H there. I don't know, man. They were trying to build a thing. It's got a certain style to it. They didn't pull it off. It's just so nothing.

Do you know who I was disappointed in? I was disappointed in the people who voted for us watching this, to be fair. And I don't think I've ever said that before, but you guys need to take a look at yourselves in the mirror and just establish who you are and what we're all here to do. This is a Nickelodeon movie. What kid watched this and was like,

cool movie? Because there was no like, it wasn't instructional enough on where we laughed. And for some reason I thought it was directed by Jon Favreau. Let me just throw that in. I don't know why. I just thought it was. No.

Jon Favreau's sort of gone on to prove himself with these live adaptions of Disney films, The Jungle Book. And he did the Iron Man series as well. He's doing The Lion King, right? And he's doing The Lion King right now. I also don't know i mean i guess jack black fans would have watched the movie uh napoleon dynamite fans would have watched the movie it it

grossed 95 million dollars 99 million dollars at the box office on a budget of 32 million uh so it's it's a win it wasn't a total flop the the tagline, which gives you a real insight into the movie making process, he's not lean, he's not mean, he's nacho, average hero, which is a variation on the old street joke of what do you call someone else's cheese? Well, I don't know. It depends what sort of cheese it is. I mean, did you just make that up then or is this an established joke?

No, I gave it an alternative punchline. I thought you would have known. The punchline is nacho cheese. Oh, okay. That's quite good. I like that. No, I haven't heard that one before. You can tell by how much I'm laughing, Guy,

that's how much I like the joke. One of my favorite things to experience as a comedian is when the recipient of the joke or the audience tell me that they like the joke, in spite of the fact that their tone and face have not shifted one jot from the pre-joke world. I'm almost ready to close the book on talking about Nacho Libre. I don't think there's a lot to mine here,

and this is coming from two gentlemen who managed to get a year out of grown-ups to sex in the city too and we are your friends for crying out loud but the well is dry it's just it's a film that doesn't fail hard enough to be interesting and doesn't succeed in anything enough to be enjoyable on its own terms so i'm gonna lightly guy unless you stop me close the book on nacho libre and i want to delve into jack black's prior career if we know yeah yeah i i would i just before you shut the book uh i know that we can always wrap the book stuck a finger in i'd yeah i'd like to put my little finger in there please uh i would like to say that i agree wholeheartedly that it doesn't fail

hard enough to be interesting and that's also because the ambition was never enough for it to be anything interesting it could never be a spectacular failure could only be a moderate to satisfy success i don't agree with that it's it's weird enough that you could totally fuck it up they they competently made a film it's there it exists you want to watch it i mean don't i would say don't watch it but you know it exists i'll tell you this tim when uh when jack black first uh slapped the butt of the wrestler in their first wrestle you know when he yeah i smiled was that the make the maximum uh arousal that this managed to elicit from you. Biggest, yeah, biggest reaction. Good stuff.

I remember seeing Shallow Howl, I'm pretty sure, at the cinema. And that wasn't that good either. I feel like that is a film that probably wouldn't stand the test of time, I'd be tempted to say. Have you ever seen Shallow Howl? I watched it. The gorgeous and talented gwyneth paltrow who is um also just an absolute wealth of medical knowledge that woman

who wonders barely ever cease yeah best known now of course is the author of the popular medical journal goop uh the very scientific name uh she was fucking trolling the whole time eh like she she put the she put the name right on the tin she still is trolling tim and that's why people are angry uh look yeah i saw shallow hell i mean that was the heyday of the farrelly brothers god knows what other movies they made shallow hell certainly i think when you said might not stand the test of time is a very generous estimation of just how poorly their movies play now uh it it uh i remember laughing though i remember that george costanza or uh what's his name jason alexander had a tail in the film and thinking that was funny and then there are other like the classic set pieces that they put in the movie you know like

the just you know i guess the basic gag that they play over and over is uh you know he thinks that he's dating Gwyneth Paltrow when really he's dating Gwyneth Paltrow in a fat suit and even as i say it now you can imagine the the corners of my lips are turned upwards as I fondly reminisce on the comedy gold that was sown throughout the fields. But I remember... It's a bulletproof premise. Yeah, I remember smiling along and laughing. I don't remember enjoying it.

I don't remember re-watching it. But at that point... So this is, again, we're near the beginning of Jack Black's movie career. I don't know. He probably broke through television and stuff. High Fidelity, I sort of remember as being uh my introduction to it was it that was everyone's introduction to him i think and it's it's it goes his name kuzak john john kuzak banking on uh

that he was sort of grabbing on the tail of john kuzak in that film i'll tell you what kuzak is a man who i always underestimate and whenever he pops up in that film. And I'll tell you what, Cusack is a man who I always underestimate. And whenever he pops up in something I'm watching, I'm like, you know what? John Cusack, fucking good actor. Both the Cusacks, John and Joan, they are a joy to watch on screen. I don't know Joan.

What's she in? You do, I mean, there's no way. Did you see School of Rock with Jack Black? Yep. Sure did. So Joan Cusack, I think she was like the headmaster or headmistress of the school that he. She's also. I don't know what she's best known for.

I just remember as like a character actor who shows up and I'm always. Oh my God, I didn't know this was. I've just looked her up, Guy, which is a great thing to do on a podcast i can see her face now she's she's very distinctive you immediately know who you're dealing with when you look her up i did not realize that they were siblings yeah the acting runs thick in the cusack blood uh there's also an ann there's another sister uh well i know nothing of the sand but i assume that she's got she's got chops a real joy to work with real pro on set guess who's on your wikipedia she was in multiplicity gray's anatomy scandal one tree hill and some other stuff boston legal

i watched that bones she was in fraser apparently ali mcbeal criminal minds a television actor i'll bet you she gets absolutely fucking laid out at thanksgiving uh i mean the residuals are fantastic but you know when you're up against joan and john that's brutal high fidelity i'd just like to quickly say the reason that jack black probably shone in that film i don't know how that movie's aged either. I remember reading the book and quite enjoying it a while ago after my first serious breakup. Unsurprising, seeing as the book's all about a dude confronting being, you know, breakups.

But it goes to show, you know, it's so easy to steal the scene as the support, isn't it? Oh, yeah. That difficult segue into being the leading actor, the leading person, the leading person, the leading man or lady in Hollywood terms, that's the difficult transition. And, I mean, Jack Black has successfully done this now.

Think about Kung Fu Panda. He was fantastic in Kung Fu Panda. He's been cast in several successes and failures. I think Jumanji last year that he was in was really popular in the end. I guess that was the Rocks movie. But I remember watching the trailer and being very skeptical,

but that movie fucking blitzed it. Kung Fu Panda as well. The thing that I kept reading about Jumanji was that it was way more enjoyable than it had any right to be, was the general consensus. But I didn't get along to it, unfortunately. I'll watch it at some point.

But Kung Fu Panda, you've got a team and hundreds of millions of dollars digitally creating a great movie there. There's no denying the guy's got pipes. He's got a fantastic voice, not just in his vocal range for his singing, but just his talking voice is so funny he can do so many things with it he's got like a rubbery face of a voice i remember listening to uh tenacious

d's comedy songs and laughing along again i mean god the world turns around fast but uh the only gay eskimo that was my portal into jack black i now remember that was the first thing and then the other one was Fuck Her Gently, which I actually brought the house down with Fuck Her Gently at a Montgomery family Christmas once. I did a full delivery of it, acapella, the whole table, had grandma, the aunts, the uncles, the cousins in stitches. Good God. Is nothing sacred at the time of our Lord's birth, Guy Montgomery?

I mean, not if you've just heard Tenacious D's fucker gently And painstakingly remembered all of the lyrics Was there an area A sort of darting look at you Or a hand gesture to maybe cut it out midway through Everyone was on board? You had 100% hit maybe cut it out midway through everyone was on board you had a hundred percent in the room not everyone was on board but it was that classic situation where you've got your key players laughing along and they're frustrated through the laughter but

they're laughing which pretty much makes you feel invincible uh and i mean general consensus was keep going also as i recall this was probably around the time I'd been given carte blanche on saying the word shit. I had not yet graduated to fuck or any of its constituents. It's like getting your pen license, isn't it? It is. That is the teenage pen license. And then, I mean, other people were probably getting handjobs

or something in the bushes, but I'm sure that those memories aren't quite as vivid or positive as this rip-roaring performance of Fuck Her Gently. But, yeah, the guy, he was obviously funny and Kyle Gass or whatever. And then, I mean, I feel like you struck me as someone who would have been a huge Jack Black fan. Because you love music. It just feels like it's right in the fucking slot for you. Tell me I'm wrong. Tenacious D was a huge hit among my pals at high school,

and I was definitely into them as well. I remember there's one particular skit, I think, on the same album as Fuck You Gently, which is them going through a fast food chain and it's jack black putting in his order and i like that for me was one of the funniest comedy skits i'd ever heard yeah i i remember he orders a a fucking truckload of items from a um is it a carl's junior i think that he's out and this was before new zealand had a carl's genius this was some fabled american chain that i hadn't experienced

and as a big fast food fan i was sort of thrilled with that right out the gates and he keeps stacking things onto the order and then stresses that he wants a junior western bacon chi because he's trying to watch his weight and at the end orders a half and half diet coke uh because he's trying to watch the weight and then kyle gas takes a brief moment of inhalation before he makes his order and jack black starts laying into him for taking too long it's a it's a great skit it's good stuff i remember now as you say i'm coming to uh in my head i'm hearing the trying to lose trying to watch my figure trying to lose some of the weight. And actually, that's where he says, he orders a bunch of shit and he says, fuck me, what else?

And as someone who's a big fan of the F word, as a young man, that spoke directly to my heart. And I've used that line, I countless times in my in my days walking this earth yeah no jack black's had way more of a impact on me than i sort of first realized yeah well i think then you'd let on now it's sort of like um it's the equivalent of i don't know what blink 182 maybe or they're possibly ironically cool again but sublime you know it's it's really it really takes hold at the time and then as you go out of it you sort of uh almost willfully disassociate yourself with it because you're like oh no no no no no it's a valuable market like it's the same with sandler i fucking went crazy for him sandler was

a much bigger impact on me than jack black jim carrey arguably the biggest in terms of comedy actors um but it's just a different time. You're a different person, aren't you? What do you feel about how Jim Carrey's landed now as carving out a position as sort of a bearded elder statesman of the crazies? Can I be honest with you? I worry about the guy.

I watched his Norm Macdonald live episode and it made me pretty uneasy. I kind of enjoyed his comedians in cars getting coffee, worry about the guy i watched his norm mcdonald live episode and it made me pretty uneasy i kind of enjoyed his comedians and cars getting coffee but like and then you read some of the stuff like he's had uh he used to be married to jenny mccarthy who sort of uh is mostly known now as a quite a vocal anti-vaxxer i believe jim carrey is as well there are certain elements of his uh later stages of his career that i i i'm wary of i watched that documentary as well but i still uh i still love the guy he's actually about to be in a uh i think it might be for

showtime a tv series where he plays uh a mr rogers type wildly popular um yes children's entertainer that loses his cool or like you know has a mental breakdown and that looks both perfectly cast and fucking watchable yeah that does look good did you see i we may have even spoken about it but that mini documentary that popped up online of jim carrey's painting career these days dude's fucking good he's making some good art out there good on him good for him uh the only other thing i remember about him and this is actually quite um it's quite grim his partner or an ex-partner of his uh passed away she took her own life and the family are now after um they're sort of suing him for for damages mental damages and um right yeah i remember that when i see that when i see that

in conjunction with the sort of quite uh just like too open-minded you know to the point of almost being closed-minded like the the idea that his brain's just moving in every direction all the time it does that's the sort of thing that makes me feel a little uneasy about the guy i recall a saying from my childhood that i think came from my mom's side of the family which was uh it's important to have an open mind but if your mind's too open your brains fall out. I like that. It's true enough, isn't it? I love to laugh, mate. I tell you, this, I mean, Nacho Libre has really, while we might not be discussing the ins and outs of the film,

it's really opened a door into some other stuff that certainly I'm vaguely interested in. I am interested in talking and hearing about. I don't know how it would be for the consumer, but you get what you pay for. Pretty good, I think. interested in talking and hearing about i don't know how it would be for the consumer but you get what you pay for pretty good i think the thing is is they handed us a bit of a turd this week and that's fine that's that's uh that's you know the deciders club prerogative but there are consequences to everyone's actions i went to mexico as a young boy i think i was 17 i was either 16 or 17 and i'm pretty sure I've told this story before about how I got on there.

So I won't bore you with the details again. But I remember getting some shit hot Luchador masks. They were the fucking best thing I bought in Mexico. Bringing those home, I tell you what, what a gift. What an absolute gift. Because you really can't get good quality, hand done wrestling masks here in New Zealand.aland you got to go overseas to get them

that might have changed now i don't know but back then so good any kid who went to any uh any on any holiday to a country with a remotely different culture and came back bearing gifts fucking ruled the playground i remember a friend of mine named kirk go to Hong Kong and come back with fucking fake Oakleys and Rolexes out the wazoo. And that boy ruled the roost, you know, for the two weeks after he'd get back from his big trip to Hong Kong, eventually he became quite an aggressive capitalist and started hawking them for way above their reasonable price. He also added...

He also added those fake Ralphalph lauren polo shirts you know the really acrylic ones that would hold your adolescent sweat in them gee whiz but i can imagine you showing up after the big trip to mexico with high quality masks holy heck tim they were very expensive and not to be trifled with though they weren't for pals it was for uh it was for the very close knit it was for um sort of family members and maybe besties but it didn't extend beyond that circle i'm about to um go to vietnam uh quite soon for my honeymoon guy and i had a are you looking forward to get maybe some fake rolexes because i remember a schoolyard chum of mine going to vietnam and coming back with a bag full of fake luxury watches

which is not traditionally how they're sold i don't think um rolexes sold by the bag full shows what you know about the world of high finance and nice watches because all respectable watch brands sell by the bag now. No one's hawking into Vendor watches. The margins are too low. It's a weight thing. I'll have 600 grams of Rolex, please. Absolutely.

Tim, I'd just like to quickly put a pause on this conversation. Alice is in the room. I think she's packing to leave. So I'm just like to quickly put a pause on this conversation Alice is in the room I think she's packing to leave so I'm just going to say farewell so what the listener won't know you dear listener is that Alice and Eden

has been staying with Guy and just had to leave so Guy just had to nip out to say goodbye because he's a charming young man yeah I'm a good guy I also got some chocolate out of the fridge at that time

if you can hear me chewing well this is where you've got to explain what's going on that'd be an absolute nightmare for continuity just all of a sudden guys chewing on something you know me Tim I chew when I have to how I want to how do you reckon Jack Black's going

for cash these days Guy do you think he's going okay because I can't remember what his I guess the Kung Fu Panda franchise is one of those ones where you're probably getting checks in the mail quite frequently. It's that sort of a franchise. Dude, School of Rock is massive and I really enjoyed that. Moreover,

Jumanji, his second build on the poster, that film with a budget of $90 million grossed $961 million. That's almost a billion-dollar film. So the guy's still got it. And the thing is that it's almost not like it's one for them,

one for me with him. It's just like I'll make them all for them, and some of them will work, and some of them won't. Nacho Libre could have been one for him. I think it's conceivable that he sort of harbored a desire to play a friar come mexican wrestler i reckon that's definitely in the could have been in the pantheon of things he wanted to do with his career that feels like one for it but it feels uh like a measured move it felt like it could be one for everyone. One for him and for everyone. Can I ask you a question?

Yeah. His fighting, his mate, his compadre, whose name I never took the care to remember, I must apologize, but the man who steals the nacho chips off him early on in the film and then they forge a wrestling duo friendship. Yeah.

Is that Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite? Because he looks kind of like him, film and then they forge a uh wrestling duo friendship yeah is that pedro from napoleon dynamite because he looks kind of like him but not really like him and then with you saying that it's the napoleon dynamite guys i was starting to put those two things together so it's like i've seen this cat and something else i was thinking that the whole movie couldn't place him nah you'll probably best remember him for playing the role of um a clerk in the very popular film wild hogs is that john travolta and uh tim allen on motorbikes not just them also martin lawrence and william h macy got got a spot on the poster william h m, what are you doing, bud? You make good stuff.

He does whatever he wants. No, he was not Pedro. So you've added yourself as, I mean, you know, mildly racist given the circumstance. Oh, God. Is it though or am I just bad at guessing who people are? I didn't know that John Cusack was John Cusack's sibling. Yeah, you're so misogynist. Does that make me racist against white people? i didn't know that joan kuzak was uh john kuzak's sibling yeah you're so misogynist make me racist against white against white people i don't know maybe no that that makes you sexist tim uh the the rap sheet against you grows from strength to strength

i'm gonna have to join the Rat King Underground Forge my own existence In a subterranean landscape Hey I've got a fun bit of trivia for you About Nacho Libre Which 24 out of 24 users found interesting You know the song that Jack Black sings at the party When they crash the party Improvised?

You're kind of stepping on my punchlines here yeah sorry go on entirely improvised believe it or not yeah i'm shocked to hear that that's really surprising and an interesting fact i can't believe two dozen people thought that that was even something worth voting on, to be honest. Of course it was. Fuck. Well, now you know. So that's interesting. Is that stuff that you probably wouldn't think about if you didn't know?

Well, so the anticipation of the popularity of this film meant that it was sent to theatres under the codename Toast. What? Why? Were they afraid someone was going to steal the projection tapes? I don't understand why you'd need to codename a movie, getting it into the cinema. Look, man, it's a crazy world out there, though.

I wouldn't expect you to understand everything about it. Hey, this one is actually kind of interesting. I mean, to the tune of 53 out of 54 users. During filming, Jack Black recorded a series of confessionals, which were uploaded onto the internet as video podcasts available from iTunes. They became one of the most popular podcasts in the world. Huh. Well, how about that?

You like that, don't you? That I do find interesting. I would like to see this content. I'll bet it's good. He'd be fucking good on a podcast, actually, Jack Black. Have you seen his appearance on the Eric Andre show? I have, and I loved it. I thought he did pretty well considering the circumstances.

A lot of birds shitting on him. What else did they do to him? Uncomfortable viewing. It's just like, you know, I guess that's part of the show, but it's hard to tell how in on the joke the guests are. They're not. They're not at all. He was definitely not in on the joke.

No one ever is on that show. It's what I love about it. Well, that's just, you know, like, I guess i guess you know nothing sacred on that show but it sort of breaks it broke my heart to see someone who i revered and has been and maybe still is revered within the comedy community be treated with such like not disdain like that's what this show does but just you know it's kind of semi-heartbreaking no i think that's great fuck your reference especially with comedy people. If anyone should not be put on a pedestal, it's comedy people, you know?

Take them down a peg. It's such a good show. It's probably my favorite TV show, the Eric Andre show. It's very funny, but I find it harder when I see him doing it to a comedian, if only because, yeah, I don't know, actually, that's an interesting point you raise. I just was like, oh poor but like you poor bastard jack black you don't need to be doing this the other people it feels like they haven't earned a successful career independent of the show to the point that this is not above them but with jack black i was like man you're doing fine

what he must have been in there to promote something right otherwise how would they get it although eric andre had sort of developed into a bit of a star in his own right so maybe they were just able to say eric andre is doing a show you should come in and be on it and then went from there i can believe that you know he um the part of the reason why i love the eric andre show so much is because he got heavy inspiration from Space Ghost, Coast to Coast, which will always be my favorite TV show ever made. There's no taking the place of that. A lot of it, he sort of, yeah, heavily inspired his show.

Yeah, and I know that you're a big Space Ghost guy. There's actually a Twitter account I found the other day, which is just, you know, they do all those no context different posts there's a no context space ghost which you'd love because it would trigger memories for you of your your favorite show i'll jump in on that for sure um guy what is left to say about the i feel like this hasn't been um uh perhaps the greatest contribution to the internet that we've ever um produced in our lives so in an attempt to pull back up right here at the end i'd like to play a little game with you yeah by all means by the way i think this is uh this has been fine by the standards of some of

our other releases i think this is almost uh too comprehensible oh okay. I'm going to throw a word at you, and then you're going to construct a poem based on the word. Okay. Leaf. Leaf. Leaf blowing downwind. Where are you going, little leaf? I'm going home, said leaf.

It was a haiku. Yeah, was it though? I was counting along with you as I sort of, based on your pace, got wind of what you were doing there. It felt like there was an eight in the middle and I think a six at the end. I'd just quietly like to say, no, you're wrong. Go F yourself. And I don't know. I can't remember what I said exactly, but I'm sure that I'll be vindicated by the listeners as they have the faculty to rewind immediately and hear the perfect 575 format

adhered by one of the world's preeminent haiku poets, Mr. G. Montgomery. Tim, I would like a limerick from you, please. On the theme of ink. Of what?

Ink. One of the most vital contributions to our earth. Ink. There once was a man from New Zealand who had a book full of Fuck. Harder than it looks, isn't it?

What rhymes with zealand no i've got no concept i was gonna say penguin but it doesn't work neilin almost rhymes with zealand i'd let you away with it there once was a man from america who traveled very near and very far to fill up his book with ink and good luck, and eventually, he... Fuck. Limericks are a difficult little format.

Yeah, you really taped it out there. Give me a word and I'll have a punt. We should probably put a put in this. I mean, who wants to listen to this this is garbage absolute garbage look the theme is to round off this our greatest contribution to our podcast um collection so far guy to round off this golden episode you're going to perform a limerick on the theme of clothes uh a lady asked me where my clothes are from i told her i got them from the store do go on no that's it thank you so much very good literally perfect now the landing just gorgeous stuff gorgeous stuff uh thank you so much for sticking around everyone for the couple who did and um we're gonna uh watch some more of these movies i think we got to get back into the old um director's commentary it's

just a little bit hard to do so when guy and i are at different um places i tell you what talking to someone when there is a lag of about three quarters of a second, it'll fuck you up a little bit more than you think. It's just a little bit tricky to get a handle on it. Absolutely. Anything I feel, constantly being the thickest person, I can't even say the word, in any conversation. So, you know, I've always got that 75,.75 of a second lag. Life's tough

life can be tough add it together and Guy is operating one and a half seconds behind me it's crazy stuff if you can think of such a thing so thank you for sending us Nacho Libre it's crazy stuff if you can think of

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We had a guest comedian, a different guest comedian for every episode and it's good stuff it's good stuff out there it's free to get you just go and grab it overlooked and undercooked um until next time guy you want to leave us on any pearls of wisdom uh no i'm i'm pretty pretty all right actually. Thankful to be done with the Nacho Libre conversation. You got anything to say? Yeah, I'd just like to say, as pearls of wisdom, don't eat pearls. Nacho Libre.