The Worst Idea Of All Time - REVIEW: Primer

Episode Date: April 5, 2020

This was originally a pay-walled episode available only to Patreon supporters. Please consider if you can #PayTheBoiz at patreon.com/join/TWIOAT.Holy shit - what is this movie?! The fellaz don't know but they sure loved it anyway. What an amazing 1 hour, 19 minute gift from the Patreon pals - This 2004 time travel movie is as confusing and dense as it is beautiful. Aiding the exploration of this complex sci-fi is the fact that Timbo and Guyguy are recording in a car on their way to LAX at the end of their USA tour. Will the boiz figure out the plot? Will they miss their highway turn offs? Only one way to find out! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

you're talking about making a bigger one you're talking about making a bigger one Hello Patreon pals and welcome along to a very special edition of the Patreon, what do we call this, the Deciders Club episodes? It's called the Deciders Club, that's right Tim. You're in the palace, you're in the Patreon palace right now and we are in a car. That's right, the form that the Patreon palace has taken today is a toyota yaris kindly rented out to us by the good folks at budget at cost of course uh i am pulling on to the western motorway uh and what looks like a pretty serious amount of traffic as i take tim to lax thus concluding a fantastic little tour. It has been a true blessing to be here in America, and I quite like our time management,

you know? It's like, could we squeeze our final podcast together? And by the skin of our ass, we've done it. My headphones just talked to me. That was really weird. It said, please recharge headset. Well, what are you going to do about it? Yeah, so right before we climbed into the car, we watched, as chosen by you, the 2004 time travel science fiction thriller...

Primer. Primer. A film made on a budget of $7,000 that grossed, would you say about $850,000? That is correct. Man. And I went on a real journey of opinion and fandom of the film throughout it because as I said... Oh, actually, I'm exiting here at La Brea. Sorry.

Oh, man. Let me take... No, no, no. Are you okay? No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.

Monty, this is how good at driving Monty is. He's podding and driving. Or possibly bad. Yeah, actually. I feel like I've jinxed it. Now we're going to crash, aren't we? I was thinking to myself as we kicked off the record, what say we were to crash while podcasting?

Well, I would quickly... That is valuable audio. Outside of an insurance claim. I mean, we'd have to bury it for a couple of years. Absolutely. My God. Let's hope we can mine this experience with some conversational gold so when the movie started tim as you have rightly said to me wall-to-wall dialogue i don't know where

these motherfuckers find these movies but this is a real this was like this movie yeah this was this was um one of the patreon selections where someone took the wheel away from the normal road most driven. Double metaphor there. Enjoy. Yeah. Oh, God. There's a cop that we just passed. That's what freaked me out.

If I see a cop, I'll just tell you, eh? And you just pop the mic down for a second. There ain't no law in the United States of America that says. There really is. You can't drive well. No, I think reckless driving would be it. Was that the exit that we just drove past? Mate, you worry about talking about private.

You're right. You're damn right. I worry about navigating the car. Very good. So, yes. Now, I don't think I've experienced a film. First of all, it was an hour 19, which I researched before we started the watch.

And can I just first of all kick off with a massive thank you. It is due to that simple fact alone, it's a crisp little duration, that has allowed us to be able to watch it and record a podcast before I leave. So that's good. Because it's way more fun and easy if we do these things together.

I don't know how many pages the script must have been, but it's talking the entire time. And not like, I was going to say it's not exposition, but it kind of is all exposition. Well, by virtue of necessity, if you've got a $7,000 budget and you're making a movie that is packing in as much scientific evidence and support as well as the human unraveling element that this movie does. By necessity, it needs to have that much dialogue.

But for the first five minutes, I did not understand anything that was happening, being said and thought to myself, it's a very bold movie that starts with a conversation I ordinarily would not listen to in real life. Yeah. And then the 15 minutes after that, the sort of slow dawning of realization came on me that... This isn't the intro.

This is the film. This is the whole movie. That's right. And we're not bringing it up with you and you sort of holding my hand through some of the more confusing... Oh, that was a two-way street. You explained some things to me as well that I got lost along the way. This is one of the densest films,

not in a stupid dense, and it is so packed with shit. One of the densest scripted films I've ever watched in my life. It reminded me of a movie called Pie, which I can't remember all of it. It was made a long time ago. It was like early 2000s, I psychological thriller from memory it's in black and white

about a mathematician who cracks a formula um that among other things sort of unlocks the stock market for him and he goes crazy and kills himself i think spoiler why say spoiler at the end that's a trope that's silly isn't it yeah this movie feels like that it's um it's got a real first of all let me leave with this i fucking loved this i didn't understand all of it i feel like i understood about slightly over half maybe 60 of the movie what was going on and i have a real love for sci-fi movies that can completely describe the world and universe in which they operate in, and everything makes sense, and it is without seams or holes. It's a real pet peeve of mine when there's big blockbuster Hollywood movies that use sci-fi elements,

or maybe it is a sci-fi like action movie and there's some bits it always happens with time travel as well that they'll skip on through because it's too complicated to invite into the narrative and you spend so much

time explaining. This movie is confident in its science. It displays the methodology behind how they time travel. This movie is nothing but that explanation. Like it's an hour 19

of just that explanation. So the like it's an hour 19 of just that explanation so the first it's all about two guys aaron and abe they are friends oh aaron i don't know there's two dudes one of them's abe i'm pretty sure the other one's aaron that can't be right um that's going to be their names for this podcast episode. We're getting audio track from a different car. Yeah. Jamming. And so they are working with two friends, and I only got this off the synopsis online,

to test devices for tech companies and then kind of like, you know, send them back and tell them what's up. They end up making this machine using superconductors and I think it was one of the noble gases, argon, I think. Yeah, it was argon. And it hooked up to some car batteries and, God, every minute it's telling me to recharge the headset.

Fuck, it's annoying, off-putting. Just trust that the mics are running. Oh, they are. No, it's just a voice comes in these headphones. take the headphones off oh yeah okay i see that is nicer okay cool um so they make this device and they do some testing and they discover that they've created a time machine accidentally did you know that the first scientific discovery they made which was beyond my comprehension i didn't know what they were solving for did you know immediately that what we're dealing with no i travel i thought so they take you down a path where um they're

talking about the electrical output considering how many volts they're putting in so i was like oh they've created a perpetual motion machine i thought because one of the characters wives was uh taking ice from the freezer yeah i thought that they were of the characters' wives was taking ice from the freezer, I thought that they were designing the first freezer that made ice cubes that would come out of the freezer. I see. When did you think this was set, this movie? Well, the fashion is insane. That was before we'd been revealed to see it.

I wouldn't call any of this fashion. The clothes. Yeah, I don't understand their insistence on wearing, like, white shirts and ties all the time. Isn't it because it all sort of exists in a day where they just kind of were at work or something? But no, yeah. I don't know what year I thought it was. But because they were like, don't drink the ice, it's not good yet. Oh, good point. I forgot.

Because she then said, oh, well, what about if it was made crushed yeah and so there was so much it was like the first thing that exists in the world that i live in instead of talking about scientific theory and electronic stuff that's beyond me i was like ah ice all of that tech to make the freezer that has ice cubes come out the front and i was like that's fucking interesting because i don't know how they do that but i take the information as read and use it at every opportunity love that it'll be that'd be an interesting film wouldn't especially a sci-fi highly unlikely but a seven thousand dollar hour and 19 minute movie that grossed eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars $850,000. So that is, what is that? Over 100 times, factors, its initial outlay.

That is taking you on the journey of how ice gets made in a freezer and the boys who patent it. That's right. But it turns out, no. And as you quickly cottoned on to, these boys were, I don't know if it was deliberate or not, but they were dealing with time travel. Yeah, it was accidental.

They stumble into it. I don't know. It's hard to wrap where to start with this movie. Wrap your hands around it. It looks really cool to me. And it was one of those great things of necessity being the mother of all invention because due to the low budget,

they had to shoot on 16mm film and it gives it this really cool, like, old, grainy... It's like the Zapruder footage. It's like old documentary shot in the 70s or 60s or something. It gives it this cool, like, filmic grain to it and, like, quite voyeuristic. It's shot really well, I thought. Yeah. Really cleverly

shot. And the soundtrack's really basic and minimalist and stripped back. The soundtrack and it works for it. This is something that we need to discuss. This movie was written, produced, directed, starring

this guy's a regular Neil Breen, but get this, he pulls it off. He also did the original score. Yeah, incredible. I don't know his name, but you can Google that. Such an impressive thing. I just did a very cursory look at the Wikipedia before we got in the car,

and he described the post-production process, which took him two years, as incredibly arduous. And he said he came very close to abandoning it several times. Of course. I mean, that's the most impressive. You know, to an extent, bless me, to an extent, any movie that is completed is impressive. Like, I mean, you know, we debase movies, have been known to, but the fact that the movie in the first place got made is incredibly impressive.

But less so when you consider budgets, external timelines, pressure put upon by other people like network heads. You know, there's so many moving parts that make sure that this thing is roughly on time and roughly on budget. If you front $7,000 of your own money to create the most compact time travel film I've ever seen and then beholden to no one but yourself

as the creative force behind it through pre-production, production, and post-production to actually complete it. Yeah. It is so impressive to me because I didn't understand a lot of the movie and like can you imagine how you could see the forest from the trees in the editing suite when you've got

nothing but raw film footage nah man and well that was the other interesting thing so i think this guy really knew what the fuck was up when he made it because they did say in the wikipedia page that he'd gone to great lengths to storyboard the fuck out of this movie on 35mm still. So he took a bunch of photos to frame everything out. And they had a shooting ratio of 2 to 1, which is insane. So in terms of footage, for every half hour that was shot, 15 minutes is in the goddamn movie, which is just crazy. Wow.

Which means, ultimately, I guess, there was only 2 hours and 40 of celluloid that was shot for this thing. Which would mean, I mean, not that that would necessarily make the editing process that much easier, but... Oh, definitely would. Surely, yeah. Absolutely would. Of course it would.

I've lost respect for his self-described challenges in the editing suite now. Okay, cool. He is a god among men. And it was his mate as well, who I think is the co-star. And production assistant. Production assistant. But it was mainly on the shoulders of this one dude. This film fucking ruled.

So to complete as quickly as we can the plot. So they stumble upon this invention um it starts giving off some readings that don't make sense to them so then they put an object in there to test it the object starts losing weight which they're like holy shit we've made like a zero gravity field or something like that um and then they put the object in and it gains this fungal mass on top of it which they take to a um biologist microbiologist yeah yeah and he goes he interprets it as a practical joke when the guy explains the situation because he's like hey um for this amount of fungal buildup would take months and months and months and the thing's been in there for like overnight yeah and so that's the tip off that

this thing's actually a time machine and then it and then it starts to lose me a little bit because one of the friends has like already made a trip back and what you're seeing in the movie is the main guy's experience you're going through with him for the first time yeah and that his friend is like okay i've already done this i'm going to need to explain what happens now we've made a bigger one of this and i've already like gone back and forward one time and i can tell you sort of how this works a little bit and i would like to say that uh what the movie because this is i am not especially with regards to science, a remotely well-informed person. And what the movie does a good job of

is you are constantly close enough to almost understanding what is unfolding in front of you that it does become more interesting as the consequences of what they're doing start to unfurl. Like, I found it really hard to break in the first 10, 15

because it is purely... It's chemistry. It's pure support documents for what they're about to, for the human element of what they're about to do. But once you break through that and it's sort of like you understand that what they have developed and the application of it is happening. Even though I don't understand the mechanics of everything, it is like, it is just so well executed. I mean, this is fucking niche this movie i don't know how the size of the market they're catering to but it was yeah i was really you can still appreciate it no matter where you sit on the spectrum if you sort of have any appreciation for

like filmmaking at all you can look at or even kind of storytelling on a cheap budget you can look at this thing and go fucking nice job dude even if you're not big into sort of time travel aspects of it it's got this real i don't know if i just kind of put this on as a blueprint because i knew it was a sci-fi movie but this real sense of foreboding the entire film just now it's shot it's very like tense and scary to how it's shot. It's very, like, tense and scary to me. It's sort of read as a thriller. I suppose we should continue marching through the plot then, because... Well, I kind of can't.

Like, I'm not confident enough in what happened. That's why we should try and do it. Okay, so after he explains what happens, they make a bigger version of it in a storage container so that it can contain an entire one of them to do a journey but then it transpires that that's already happened so the friend who's explaining this to him pulls out a pair of binoculars and gets him to look and it's a copy of him walking back into the storage container and he's like the the other friend who he's brought

is like what the fuck who is that guy and it's and it's him from a different sort of time loop and so then it descends into this operation where they start engaging in the time travel looping and they they entered the um device in the storage container and then there's two devices for them both to climb into inside of the storage container. I thought they were both in one thing. Are they in one each? They're in one each. So they've built two...

I think they've built two time machines that are in the storage container. Right at the start. Okay. Well, they were quite like... Because at one point, one of them, the friend who's experienced with time travel, exits at the appropriate time. And then the other one comes out and he says, you've exited too... He's in the room when he sees the other one comes out and he says you've exited too he's in the room when he says the other guy goes you've come out too early you're right yeah you're right you're right oh i missed yeah of course all right

so we got two time machines in the storage container and so they do their respective journey now that you go in and then fuck i don't know how this bit works exactly they exit and i think because there is then a duplicate of them because they've gone back in time, they lock themselves into a hotel for the set amount of time that represents the loop. So for like a day or six hours, I kind of lost track. And they have to not fuck with anything.

So they unplug all of the telephones um the tv electronics everything they unplug everything so that there can be no kind of butterfly effect kicked off by any small minute thing being changed with the outside world and the loop they're now in um and then they can kind of jump back into the normal go around of things are you all right yeah i am i've just i got into a left turning lane a little early, but it's alright. We're just going to merge

once more. This is going to be a good swift take off. Pray for us, everyone. It's going to be okay. And we're going to be great. Mine's just the best driver. Baby driver over here.

So then, fuck, then what? Then they start playing the stock market. Yeah, so they... To make a shitload of money. That's right.

We don't really see the consequences of that necessarily, mainly owed to the budget. It's just they kind of tell you what's happening. They're smart. They're scientists, these boys. So they do things like they go to the public library to use their computers so there can be no trace of them making the orders

so it can be tracked back and fucked with their lives. Then they start kind of... I mean, I'm skipping around a little bit, but as it progresses, they start getting more and more sloppy with how they're doing it. So at one point, the main dude who made the film, who I think is... I think that's Aaron,

if that's his name. There's your opening. He has his cell phone. That was for the driving, not for Tim figuring out what happened in the movie. He has his cell phone and brings it in, sort of accidentally, absentmindedly, and then they sort of discuss whether or not that's going to fuck things up.

And then he ends up even taking a call when he's in the hotel room at one point, which undoubtedly will fuck shit up. But it's basically just watching them get sloppier and more complacent with what they're doing. Then, where are we? They start wanting to, like, fuck with it a bit more. So they make a bigger time machine

right? no they they keep the same time machine they're suspicious that a potential seed investor has been spying on them and has started using their time machine for his own

nefarious purposes they spot a guy who they've seen earlier in the day clean-shaven with, like, a four-day, you know, amount of stubble or beard. And so they're like, holy fuck, that dude has been following us, has gone into the time machine,

is onto what we're up to, and is engaging in the looping with us, which is bad. And there's the thing with the guy with a shotgun who turns up to a party, but there's nothing to do with the seed funder, I think. I think that's just a bit of a homicidal party guest. I am very confused. I think we stay in this lane for now.

No, I'm wrong. No, I fucked it. God damn it. Well, at least we're going to lax and science is um so then they start fucking around with the party and i think what that's about is they're trying to kind of make themselves heroes and protect everyone there but they're fucking with the loop while that's happening there was a little breadcrumb that was uh tossed out at the beginning of the film about these sounds that are coming from the roof from the attic and they've got to call an exterminator to get rid of what it is and the wife says it oh he says it's birds and the wife said that doesn't sound like any birds i've ever

heard she thinks it's rats she thinks it might be rats. As the movie progresses, there's also this thing where at one point, the guy's ear is, he's bleeding out of his ear, and they don't know why. Their handwriting inextricably gets way childlike. So there's sort of this inference that they're becoming kind of moronous,

like almost a lobotomy effect i don't know yeah i feel like their scientific understanding their understanding of what's happening is still sound though it's more like they're biologically breaking down to me their mental faculties remained sharp but they can't use their bodies as they might have chosen yeah i it's honestly so complicated one of them started like recording conversations and then listening to them and repeating the same so he's got an air pieces and he's repeating the same conversations with the people around him on every loop and i think they explain in the epilogue of the film is the just before the credits hit that he's been doing this trial and error for ages to

get everything kind of on the right track again i think so then it turns out that i i think what they've been doing is the voices in that or the noises in the attic are copies of themselves that they've had to put in there so that they can continue doing what they're doing because they can't be too on the same you know it's so gross and scary it's fucking freak but then are the are the versions of them in the attic are they like morons you know like they're hyper kind of dumb i don't know because then we also said no like they're they're um they're drugged with something oh that's right like some uh sleeping separate from time travel they are constantly drugged

from time travel they are constantly drugged fuck this they're like poisoning themselves at one point yeah other versions of this movie this fucking movie i gotta tell you it was challenging to watch it is somehow even more challenging to talk about i want to watch it again navigating the roads on the way let me ask you a me ask you a question, Guy, if I may, while you're making this turn. What do you think was the thought process of people voting for us to watch this movie? Do you think they were like, these guys are going to fucking hate this, this is a total mindfuck? No, I think they would have known you would like it. Yeah. I think...

You hated it at the start, but it grew on you. Yeah, I did. would like it yeah i think you hated it at the start but it grew on you yeah i did well i was just like i because i didn't i didn't have any information other than it was an hour 19 minutes i don't know what we're about to watch and so i was like fuck is this something i'm not remotely interested in happening for an hour and 20 minutes in front of me but by virtue of successful filmmaking and storytelling uh i became interested even as i didn't understand i mean it is that is an impressive feat for for anything really to somehow make it interesting to someone who initially is actively not interested and even while they're being interested doesn't understand what's happening yeah i don't know man it was uh it was a ride

it was a hell of a ride how are you doing man why don't we talk man. It was a ride. It was a hell of a ride. How are you doing, man? Why don't we talk about ourselves? You're leaving. Have you had a nice week? Ten days? Two weeks? It's such a lovely week, yeah.

How lovely are you here? Been in the States for about 11 days, I think. Yeah. That sounds about right. Shit, you've covered some ground. Crazy considering how much we've done. Like, arrived in New York City with my pal Monty, sharing a bed with my bud.

We saw some cool people, we had some coffees, we did a live show. And then we hightailed it over to Chicago and we thought we'd do it all again. Did a live show there. And then Portland, Oregon, a place where I indulged too much and got very ill and vomited at home

something I've not done for quite some time you were really you were pinballing off the walls too much cake and ice cream at one point after I did a wee I was walking from the bathroom back to our room and you were sort of mindlessly wandering around the hallway foyer area

that's not good. Of the hostel. And I pointed you in the right direction. I put you to bed. I put the recycling bin by your head. Oh, you legend. I think I used it too. You certainly did.

Not moments later. But. You're a smart man. You put the pieces back together. The next morning went for a beautiful stroll around Portland, Oregon. Yeah. Truly, one of the cities in the United States of America. I feel like I lost a day, you know, speaking of time travel loops.

That's what a hangover is, isn't it? I hate that. As I've gotten older, that's something I've really, I fucking hate about hangovers. It's just you lose a whole day. And it's a combination of... You lose more than that. You lose upwards of 50% of the night prior as well. Yeah, that's true.

That's true. Everything in moderation. It's important to have the odd blowout, but... Not to that level, though. You can blow out and still remember everything and have your... Not total wits about you, but feel fresh air. Not throw up. Not vomit into a recycling bin blow out and still remember everything and have your not total wits about you but like feel not

fresh yeah not vomit into a recycling bin in a hostel in portland oregon um so that we did that and then we're fucking in la like man it's a lot of i feel like my carbon footprint for this trip is awful and it is terrible like a lebron james size carbon footprint you this trip is awful. And it is. Terrible. Like a LeBron James-sized carbon footprint. You know? It's no good. But I've had such a wonderful time. Not to excuse it or anything, but...

I've also, you know, I've been parading around calling myself a vegan for the last few months. I've eaten so many fucking animal products and animals here. Yeah. I took a little break from animal products and animals here. Yeah. I took a little break from it while I was in the States. It's good though. It's good to be open and honest with yourself and those around you.

And you've been loving it. What was, so we had a burger at Petit Cheval in Chicago. Well, no, so Au Cheval is the main venue. That's where we tried to go during the day time,

but it was rammed. And then later that night, we discovered that there's a small outpost, which is like just the burgers. It's not the fine dining experience. They've just distilled it into efficient... A burger joint. Yeah. I cannot describe to you people, you good libertarian listener,

how life-changing this burger was yeah i've never had a burger that good ever and i love burgers boy do i love them it's true it was crazy i think i've talked about it maybe on the podcast already yeah you had that burger you had a burger at in and out yesterday yeah i found they they in the same bracket? Oh, nah, they're different leagues. In-N-Out's bloody great. Don't get me wrong. It's so super tasty.

Although they didn't salt the chips, which was weird. Massive oversight. They didn't salt the chips. Chippies were bad. I had some of those chips. Yeah, but In-N-Out burgers don't have a scratch on this petite cheval bloody gift from the gods it was absolute nectar so what about we do highs and lows of the trip okay low vomiting into a recycling bit that one's a gimme we'll take that as red we've already talked about it okay your second most low point it's an it's a good question um

shit i don't know it's been pretty fun there's been moments where i've felt like flat just because i've been tired but not necessarily bad at any point did you get cross with me at any point undoubtedly i'm trying to remember do you remember me getting crossed with you at some point? No, I don't think anyone gets crossed with me. I don't think that's true. I don't think that's

at all true. Agree to disagree. Low light. No, I can't really off the top of my head think of a low light. Not to say there isn't one, but just to say that

I don't hold on to them. The highlight? Man, weirdly, what's come into my head is I loved being in honolulu for the briefest of times on my way in that is weird it was at the start of the trip because i came into new york city via honolulu and the layover was four hours so it's just kind of weird and nice

to just be in hawaii by myself for some reason never been to haw Hawaii. It's the first time I've been too. What do you make of it? Does it feel like an island destination, an American destination, or a combination of both? Island destination. It feels built up. Independent of America. Well, it's definitely got all the scratchings of America.

It's got the hallmarks there. But it felt not crazy dissimilar from New Zealand you know it's a similar sort of climate it's a it's Hawaii's a Pacific island technically right lord knows I don't know so that was really nice and I went to um a flea market there which was good fun uh and it's also that thing of being at the start of the trip is the best bit you got everything ahead of you you're excited you got a head full of steam it's pretty cool it's when you discover that the machine is time traveling you know and everything's in front of you there's no possible negative ramifications for what you've done it's all

stock market winnings and calling uh you know basketball games ahead of when they happen. It's a good time. All the good stuff. Are you looking for a park, mate? I am now looking for a park. Tim and I are in El Segundo on the hunt for Q-tips, lost wallet, and a refreshing drink before we say see you later for, I guess, a couple of months. A little while.

I feel like we've even done a great job of talking about this movie Primer, which I... Are you kidding me? Is it a park? Yeah, it is. We did a fucking electric job. I can't tell you how hard that was,

this whole drive. This is not... Patreon supporters, we've got some good stuff for you coming up. Oh, tell them. Well, no, I won't yet, because I've got to check that it'll work first yeah don't tell them i won't tell them that's what i was saying you know don't don't

don't you know manage your expectations folks but all i'm saying is that we're incredibly grateful for the support you afford us which legitimately allows us to continue to do these these sorts of things we also yeah obviously you've got uh you got the jump and the scoop on what might be next for us, and you'll be very excited to hear. We don't know. Yeah, you heard it here first. We genuinely, honestly, hand on heart, have no idea what happens after this. We're recording this like a day and a half after our final episode in LA,

and like always, we don't fucking know what's down the line for us I mean in my heart of hearts I want to say that this is it for Worst Idea but that's something we've said before I know

I want to say it too I think I want to say it more than you I want to keep doing stuff with you but not this we've got to have there's got to be another way

I don't mind holding a microphone I don't mind sitting next to you I don't even mind holding a microphone and driving while I sit next to you but I will not do that again.

At least the final season we really exploded it with the two watches a week thing. Yeah. We blew it up. I got a great analogy from someone who said that at a certain point it becomes like jackass where to elicit the same reaction from those who enjoy it, you have to debase yourself further. Correct. And, you know, you've got to find the point at which there's no crossover in there. You know, you've got to find the point, your own limit.

Yeah, there's diminishing returns. And it's been hit with the Sex and the City thing. My God. I think that's right. Okay, it's super hot in the car, folks. I'm so sorry. We had to kill the AC, you know, for sound quality reasons. So you can get that sweet audio quality. I hope you enjoyed the experience of riding in a car with I'm so sorry we had to kill the AC you know for sound quality reasons so you can get that sweet audio quality

I hope you enjoyed the experience of riding in a car with us yeah while we try to recount a movie that was beyond either of our comprehension thank you for the voting

I can't express enough my gratitude for the 1 hour 20 offering that was great and fuck this movie ruled I legit if I can't sleep on the plane

I might have another crack at it just to try and understand it more so I really loved it if you're listening, check it out. We'll see you again to talk about whatever you so deign for us next month. And keep your eyes and ears peeled for cool shit happening. Peace out, everyone. You're talking about making a bigger one.

You're talking about making a bigger one? you