The Worst Idea Of All Time - Thanksgiving Miracle (ft. Justin McElroy)

Episode Date: November 23, 2017

In a Worst Idea Thanksgiving Miracle, Tim and Guy have landed at Justin McElroy's house in Huntington, West Virginia for a podcast treat. My Brother, My Borther and Me's oldest brother is joined by NZ's number 1 fuckboiz to return to Sex and The City 2 for a first/53rd watch respectively - and WHAT a watch it was. How will Timbly and Flash feel about the film on this return to it? How will Justin pitch the sequel? Both questions (and more) will be answered in this very special episode. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today... You ready? Okay, let's go. The hunt for the wildest movie of the summer... Everybody run! ...ends here. This is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately. Borderlands, Thanksgiving miracle.

My name is Tim Batt. And mine is Guy Montgomery. And I'm Justin McElroy. Woo! Whoa, whoa, whoa now. Hey, Justin, how are you? You weren't kidding about the volume. He's just all over the place.

I'm going to be riding this like a bronco. Here's what I find with recording Guy Montgomery. It's a wonderful experience we can all enjoy. You want to turn that thing down and then just let him go hell for leather, and then we sort it out later. In his defense, I was turning the wrong knob. So that will do it. We've all got something to play with here.

So everyone, it's so great to be here in your air holes with Justin McElroy of My Brother, My Brother and Me fame. We're at his goddamn house. Can you believe it? Yeah, we're really elevating this friendship to the next level. Justin, first of all, thank you so much. Oh, it's my great pleasure to be here on this show that I've enjoyed so much over the years. And to finally be a part of it is so meaningful to me. Is that true?

Which part? The whole sentence? Select words through there are true. I've enjoyed your show very much over the years. And it is. I'm just happy to get in at the years. And it is. It is. I'm just happy to get in at the end, right here at the under the wire. And I mean, because obviously this is a bonus episode, everyone, and we will reveal what

we will be discussing momentarily. But to get to the point where we get to have a conversation about it is obviously it can be quite a tricky road to traverse. And so it's a great pleasure to be here now how did you find our screening experience last night uh it it it was surreal honestly to watch it with people who had seen it so very many times before before before we dive into the poll, I think because this is a confusing situation, just a small amount of context.

So obviously Guy has now moved to New York City. Those who stay up to date with the Friend Zone will know that little bit of context. I have traveled stateside to join him so we can do some live shows here. And then Justin very kindly was like, you guys are in America, come and spend Thanksgiving with my family.

And Guy and I were like, absolutely. It was one of those beautiful sort of semi, or what? I actually can't speak for Justin, but I always fear that it's one of those semi-hollow offers. We go, oh, yeah, anytime you want, come by. He's like, yeah, absolutely. Oh, shit. I was more just abiding a vague social nicety than actually extending an offer. You seem like the kind of cats that would actually do it, though.

So I did. I was fully prepared for you to take me up on it. And we did double check with you. And we came in yesterday. We've been having a great time here. Finally met your lovely wife. Had a lovely walk with Charlie as well through the leaves. It was cool.

And then we topped off a wonderful day with a wonderful screening of Sex and the City 2. What a bad movie. I mean, like, it's a very bad movie. What an insightful comedy. Yeah, right. I know, I'm really, I mean, it was my first screening, but it was, I was trying to put,

I had a thought exercise where I was trying to put myself in the headspace of you all watching it for the first time like knowing that you were definitely gonna watch it 52 times after that because it it is long in a way that it is unfathomable to me like so much nothing and I apologize in advance I'm probably going to be echoing things that you all said previously both because of we would have the same reaction and because I've listened to you but like god it doesn't I was I was talking with them the the there there's like a a device that they use in sex of the city the series which I've watched I watched sporadically when it was on of like a

question of Carrie's typed in to her, you know, her, one of her articles or whatever that sort of frames the thing that happens an hour into the movie. And I don't, and, but the wild thing about it is it couldn't have happened earlier because literally nothing had happened up until that point.

Like there was no, and it's not like anything happened after it. It's just like the earliest possible conceivable moment that that could have occurred. There's often a, yeah, voiced rhetorical question, which is something that Carrie's banging into her MacBook in the series. As you say, that kind of just is like,

cool, this is the thing we're dealing with this episode. And you're right, we have to spend over... We have to spend 64 minutes, I think, to be precise, to get to the point where we know what the rest of the movie is going to be. It's worse still because the movie, as is well known, is set in Abu Dhabi. And this question occurs, as you say, over an hour into the movie when she is on a plane promoting Pringles, flying over Africa en route to where the actual movie is set.

And I really wish I remember which guests of ours pointed this out, but there is no flight path that would take you over Africa to do the trip that she does. There's so many mistakes in this movie. Can you imagine picking up a book and you wade through what you think is half the book and then you finish it and you go, that was just the prologue?

No, what? It's crazy. Also, the way that we watched it, we were sort of having a good time. It was, you know, the three of us in Sydney were just goofing around, watching some fun stuff online on your TV. And then you just sort of started navigating the iTunes store and you went to Sexton City too. And you're like, I'm going to rent this.

And I was saying, no, you don't want to do that. I was not, okay, that makes it sound like psychological torture. We had discussed it. And I think we had sort of loosely vetoed it and then Justin's remote hand just kind of hovered

around and there we were. It was so scary. It's weird how there's a part of if you listen to the show i was telling tim this i think if you listen to the show there's a it's a strange strange compulsion i watch grown-ups too as well because you listen to it so many times that i became like theoretically obsessed with it like it's like i told tim it's like getting a song stuck in your head that you've never heard and that's the best and say like I needed to like You have to scratch the edge. Yeah, I had to like just see it or excise the demon in this case

That is an accurate way of describing it. I think I said this out loud actually, but I'm pretty sure it caused me Heart palpitations when it kicked off. You're getting worked up as that title sequence kicked in. Big time. There was a very physical sort of manifestation of fear and a real Pavlovian response to getting that stimulus again. We were hearing the first few notes kick up of the bespoke Sex and the City 2 score. It was just so casual as well. It's the way you just ambled along the Sex and the City 2 score. It was just so casual as well. It's the way you just ambled along the Sex and the City 2

and we started watching and it was like, ah, yeah, this is a funny goof. I thought maybe for 10 or 15 minutes and then we all just sort of sat in the room and just kept watching and watching. And I was convinced I'd fall asleep, but I didn't. I just, I got to a point where it was, I think a microcosm version of what you all went through

the first time when you did Grown Ups 2, where like, if I watched half of Sex and the City 2, that's nothing. Yeah. It's just hanging out there in the ether. And I did want to... It is... It's a consistently stimulating movie. Yes.

It's not dull. Yes. Because something is happening that excites certain parts of your brain, many in this section labeled like fury and disgust, but it is like a stimulating film. It's sort of similar to a really poorly done children's television show, I think.

There's a lot of colors on screen and a lot of ideas on screen and a lot of ideas being thrown around not all of them good not all of them sound a lot of them offensive but yeah as you say you're not going to be you're not going to be bored on the first certainly patronizing to what i'm imagining their key demographic of like mid-30s to 40s women of a certain level of materialism like it is patronizing to those people in the same way that bad children's selfish and programming is is patronizing to children like oh you like this here here's some of this like there's no story or anything it's like here's a

purse here's eight purses you're still invested in this franchise? Well, fuck you for caring. This movie is kind of like Extreme Makeover Home Edition. You know how they do the kids' bedrooms? Do you like Lego? And they're like, I guess I kind of like Lego. Cool. Fucking everything is Lego. It's like, oh, what's that?

You're a 47-year-old woman who has decided to pursue fashion as a passion of yours? Cool. Here's a bunch of dumb shit. And now we're going to the Middle East because that's different, and they wear different things there, and they put sequins on their knee quads. Check that shit out. And we know you were bored looking at women in burkas, so guess what? The whole time, underneath those, they were wearing really fashionable, fun stuff.

So secretly, you loved it, and you didn't even know it. Yeah, and secretly, everyone is like us, and we are the best. That, honestly honestly that moment that reveal i think and this is a big statement if anyone's seen sex in the city too is the most offensive part of the film where the only way that you can kind of reconcile these uh strange women that they meet in the middle east to help them out during a um classic caper that they're on where they're being chased by religious men because Samantha drops a bunch of Connie's on the ground they have to reveal that under

their burqas they are wearing fashionable American clothes. Thank God. It's even double offensive because about an hour to four hours earlier in the film they show a woman who has

basically like bedazzled her burqa. Decaled her kneecap. earlier in the film, they show a woman who has basically, like, bedazzled her burqa. Decaled her kneecloth. Yeah, like, and it is... And she's, like, decked it out. And it's like, I don't know, women of today, like, women in modern...

They say it, like, fucking... They say it out loud. Like, out loud. Miranda's line, I think, is... And it's been a little while. And we did watch it last night, and this is the morning, because we couldn't bring ourselves to do any more. This doesn't really work, but, you know,

we had to go and recover after the watch. She says, modern Arab women are finding new and exciting ways to express themselves, or something like that. That's pretty close. Straight out of the Miranda encyclopedia this is why we call her Professor Oak she just has to serve as this weird

narrative device in the film where anything that you need to know because you're a stupid American watching this film about the Middle East kind of we need to give you some tools Miranda will be the vehicle but they show a woman that had decorated her knee co-op because you're right it was a knee co-op not a burka decorated her knee co-op, because you're right, it was a knee co-op, not a burka,

decorated her knee co-op, and then they later say, like, psych, they actually are not doing that. They're secretly just wearing fashionable clothes underneath their knee co-ops. You just said that that's not what they're doing, and they're merging cultures, and their culture's evolving. And it's like, no, not really. Just kidding.

I would like to speak to what you said, Tim, about us resting on it. Obviously, the screening finished post-midnight, I believe, so everyone tucked themselves in for good nights. You were cooked, mate. You were barely keeping your eyes open. My eyes were open. I lasted the whole thing. I didn't like it.

But, Justin, before we came down to record this morning, you said that you had, on account of this, existential nightmares. I have to assume the two were connected, but I had a series of nightmares about not just dying, but watching a large number of people die in an accelerated time frame. So like time was sped up and I was just watching people die and be buried. And then their family members being next to them. I know, I know,

I know that was, it's a fucking film, man. It filled me with like an existential panic. It's so despicable that like they got the money to make it and then they did make it. And then people maybe saw it i assume not a lot because they didn't make a three so like not a ton of people but like did they try though they only recently got put to bed that the third wasn't going to be made did this movie make money

i've forgotten the stats almost definitely think about how big the franchise is yeah i feel like it uh it would have come out on top they at least would have um yeah they only very recently did everyone say do you know what that wasn't actually that good a time we're not doing it again 294.6 million dollars off a budget of like 140 or something a hundred a hundred did all right did all right it doubled that's pretty good i'm assuming Off a budget of like $140 or something? $100. It did alright. It did alright. It doubled. That's pretty good.

I'm assuming not a big international take on that, hopefully. God, I hope not. Who's to say? I don't want a lot of other countries seeing. I feel the three of us are getting bogged down in everything that is bad about this movie, which is fine and fair and good. Yeah. But maybe this would be a nice time for us to inject some light into the conversation

as we discuss our respective shining lights. Well, before we do, though, I don't know why I'm putting this forward. I think it's just to fuck you up, Guy, because we've been hanging out so much. I'm finding any moment to antagonize you. I apologize. I'm not doing it intentionally. You're smiling, though. It's just coming up.

At me. I know. You're barreling me and smiling while you say I'm enjoying antagonizing you. A smile of self-awareness. I'm not enjoying antagonizing you. It just comes out. But we saw Coffee Guy. And Justin, you were very excited to see him.

And we did a countdown. And I feel like Sydney was excited to see Coffee Guy as well. It was a cool moment. What did you make of them? Seeing it actually happen, it is immediately apparent why you would notice him because he looks like he looks like if you google image search like clip art for man drinking coffee too fast like it is this guy's fucking face and he knows he's on camera and he knows this is his fucking moment he looks over his shoulder and he sees the girls and he knows like i have to land this and he fucking sells it man he like real and

not in a good way because he's an extra and the fact that you're watching him is like very very problematic but like the guy's a superstar i i don't know if you know this justin but we messaged him to try and get him on our live show at the end of season two. And he was out of New York City at the time. But he wrote a message that we read out. How the fuck did you identify him? I spent a bit of time on the IMDb page and found him. He was also an uncredited extra in Sex and the City 1.

So obviously they recognized his work. But he wrote a message that we read out and then about eight months later he just shows back up in my facebook inbox being like hey man how's everything going you're back on the you're back on the bean juice big guy what a guy um can you imagine how much i that must have killed him to like finally have an opportunity to be recognized for his yeah and he would have truly received a hero as well yeah yeah i when um in season one at the very end when we did our live show we had tanya on who was a woman who gets an ice cream scoop thrown at her and grown-ups too she's on screen most amazing sound effect yeah humanly possible you got it

um good and we we got in touch with tanya and she was like yeah absolutely i'll come to that It's the most amazing sound effect humanly possible. You got it. Pretty good. Pretty good take. We got in touch with Tanya and she was like, yeah, absolutely. I'll come to that. And we were like, oh my God. It's funny because of the nature of this podcast, which is ending. I hasten to remind everyone. Two episodes to go after this one. You invent an edifice.

You create something. And then you get surprised when the people you've created the thing around are real people. So like Tanya, we built into this demigod, and then we just dropped her a line. She was like, yeah, that's cool, that's fine. I was an extra in an Adam Sandler movie once. I'll come to the live show.

And she had to leave because she had another engagement before. I think she was there for the screening, but she had to leave before we did the podcast. And the applause, the Wait, how did that work actually? She wasn't there for her moment somehow. She only showed up to say hello on stage. Right, right.

And yeah, she got a roaring welcome. The perfect ego boost. Like a standing O. She brought the house down and extended applause for ages. Everyone in that packed out theater. It was so good. And all of that glory could have been Coffee Guys if he had it turned up.

You're doing a couple more shows. Why don't you get at him? It's season three now, Justin. Time moves forward. We'll never have another show. This is his moment. You've got to give it back to him. The great tragedy of season three is that there has been no coffee guy.

There has been no Tanya. There's no one. There's no single, you know, extraneous character who we've been able to hitch our wagon to and champion. Yeah. All the way to the finish line. Because they all feel extraneous. Well, because the whole film is shot in soft focus. It's hard to zero in on anyone.

It's true. Well, because the whole film is shot in soft focus. It's hard to zero in on anyone. It's true. But look, before we go down the coffee hole too deeply, I would like to do the shining lights, if I may. I mean, amongst all of the dross that we suffered through for what did feel like over five hours, it is only, isn't the right word, but two hours and 24 minutes.

I mean, it does play with your concept of time when you're watching the film. I think it'd be fair to say. Is two hours 24 accurate? hours and 24 minutes. I mean, it does play with your concept of time when you're watching the film. I think it'd be fair to say. Is 2 hours 24 accurate? Because it said 2 hours 40 on the ticket at the bottom of the screen. I can't imagine it's 16 minutes of credits. I think it's 2.24.

I think it's 2.24. I think you're a goddamn liar, Guy Montgomery. Justin, you want to weigh in on this and break up a friendship? I think it was 2.24. Sounds right. Okay. Sounds right. Every time. I've been wrong about four times in a row when I've gone into battle with Guy recently

and it's destroying my ego. But that's okay. I deserve it. 146 minutes. 224. 226 actually, isn't it? I mean, I'm literally just so triggered to it. You're saying 200, not like two hours, 24 minutes.

That's what I'm saying. Two hours and 24 minutes. 146 minutes. It scrambled your brains. This is what might have happened. Wait a minute. So what did we land on? What is it actually?

You just looked it up. Two hours and 26 minutes. Oh, okay. All right. So nobody was right. Perfect. So I was two minutes. Well, I mean, but for the record, I was two minutes off and you were more.

Yes. Like 14. That's all by the by. Would anyone like to volunteer to share their favorite moment from the film last night? They get butlers. They each get their own butler in their room. Justin McElroy. What?

Come on, man. What? Be more excited. This is the one bit of the- I'm trying to remember. I don't want to mess it up because they i've seen it the one time uh they each get their own butlers and one of the butlers mispronounces hob hobbus yeah he says hobbus instead of charlotte hobbs he says hobbus and she said actually it's hobbs and he is deeply mortified. What is it?

I am so very sorry. I'm so very sorry. And credit to that. I don't think I'm wrong about this. The only competent, comedic, actual beat that actually lands in the film. And it's credit due to him because that's not written funny. That guy's like,

okay, I can find some fucking sliver of light here that I can... Absolutely. Some wriggle room. And he did it. He did it. He nailed it.

He did it. God damn, that's so bad. I've forgotten his name. Go on. Go on. Go on. No on. Go on. No, Steve is the people's champion, and he was actually,

it was a great segue, because he was my shining light. It was early on at the big gay wedding when he gets his first line, and you can just see him on the sideline doing his stretches, you know, making sure he's ready to go, and they're talking about Stanford and Anthony's,

their relationship after the wedding, how Anthony's allowed to cheat in the states where same-sex marriage isn't legal and uh they're like well it's not really any of our business and steve pipes in with a perfectly paced and vocalized except he told us and then you observe this justin he sort of looks off camera as though to mattress pikelet king the director himself to say didn't i fucking smash that out of the park my dude and even for the toxicity of the relationship that we've had with the movie over the years to see steve again shining so bright yeah i was uh i was in arm and i was very happy. Can you imagine being that cat and like, I'm sure he does other things,

but like, there's this gig and they're like, he gets the conversation. He's like, saddle up, Steve, polish up the glasses. It's time.

Sex and city too, baby. It's happening. Great. Can you send over a script so I could just kind of look through? Yeah, baby. It's going gonna be a

quick fax hold on just gonna get that one page out to you real quick yeah quick fax you're still on fax right steve that's not my name that guy will be whoever he needs to be to get that gig steve would have earned a lot of money from this movie as well, I think. My Shining Light, so glad you asked. Miranda, and I don't know why this line continues to get me, but when they're in one of the desert scenes and she's going through stuff they're going to do that day

and I think she's trying to sell a camel trip as being a really fun activity to the rest of them and she says, it'll be fun. There's something about her delivery that I love. I know exactly the moment you're speaking to. It'll be fun. She sort of moves her head.

Like she scrambles the word fun, the actual phonics of it around the group by moving her head. Speaking of Miranda, this was not a shining light. I wanted to try to be sincere with my shining light. But there's a wild moment when they're headed to that scene speaking of that scene there's a wild moment where like what i'm assuming is like a goat herder is like hurting some goats and miranda like reaches out the car window miranda who's been like so on point about like let's respect the values let's like keep it locked down.

Be a good, you know, be a good visitor here. Fucking leans out of her window and just like whips it like she's a flag at a NASCAR rally. Just like whipping this multicolored flag at this woman who's like. And screaming. Screaming. And like the woman has to like get her goats out of the road before this car like mows her down. It's like, who are you? Woo!

Yeah. I'm an American. Everyone out of my way, please. Which, for the other characters in the film, would have been 100%. At least it would have been bad and boring and stupid. But at least it would have been contextually made sense. Yes. For Miranda, it's like she has an episode.

But Justin, can't you see? That'sanda it's like she has a an episode or something just like but justin can't you see that's why it's so powerful finally out of the restrictive oppressive environment of the united states her native new york city she has managed to find a moment of freedom where she can let loose and uh scream her femininity out a window in the style of a NASCAR racer. Tim has engaged in the same sort of alternate history fan canon slash, well not slash, but the alternate history fan canon fiction that the writers of the

film attempt to do at the end, where they conceptualize some sort of overarching narrative for Miranda, who has none. We can all have a lot of fun trying to come up with whatever Miranda's story was, but it is not present in this film. She gets her shout-out in the final voiceover because she goes back to work with, I remember from previous seasons, a group of colleagues downloaded from a clip art

about diversity in the workplace. That's right. After his bad experience with time. And Miranda learned you can be a woman and have a job. And we closed the chapter on the book of Miranda with Insects in the City 2. It wasn't about that, though. To be fair to the film,

her struggle was against a douchebag boss named Tom, and she didn't want to quit because she had made it so high up in the ranks in the firm. And she did, and then she went to work for like a... I think they try and sell it in the movie as like a community-organized law firm. Is this a it in the movie as like a community organized law firm Is this a scene in the movie we watched?

No, it's like one line of dialogue right at the end Okay They kind of retcon her character in the film in the ending, which is an interesting narrative device It's yeah, as that actress that must be extremely frustrating to like i don't think anyone gave two

shits green a lot they got so much money but she doesn't she just do anything i mean she doesn't do she is building the framework around which the other characters can be terrible people i guess yeah she's in charge of the scaffolding somebody to thwart yeah she's there to be thwarted. Exactly. Yeah. There were other moments that jumped out. Like, I can't remember if there was one near the end, but you were particularly tickled once more by Aiden's delivery of the one that got away.

Oh, God. It's really fun. I mean, you have to mine through so much garbage, but there are little beats which are really enjoyable. Because you and I have watched this 52 times previously, when you get a toehold in early, or like one of the tens of watches and it just sticks with you through the whole experience it gets really drilled into your brain and one that i noticed on one of the first watches was um when aiden's having dinner with carrie in abu dhabi at his uh well-selected middle eastern restaurant which is his hotel bar.

And he's so proud of the fact that they serve Middle Eastern food. He's like lampshades in the biggest way. They have great Middle Eastern food. Oh, in Abu Dhabi they have great... Okay, all right. I'm devastated they cut the scene of Aidan explaining to the head waiter that they should sort of look at bringing that kind of food to America. It would do really well here.

So he says, he's talking about his wife and his family, and he mentions that his wife had Googled Carrie recently, and he says, she always kept one eye on you, the one that got away. It's like, no, there's at least a comma somewhere there, dude. That's not one line. No, there's at least a comma somewhere there, dude. That's not one line. That's a really strong sort of four to five minute period of the movie for Aidan because that is just before they walk through the cloisters of his hotel and he says, each of these archers represents one of the United Arab Emirates.

I remember one with every trip. Like he's like, I'm up to four. I'm up to four. He's made four trips to the UAE and he knows four states names there. And it's so wild. The, uh, this entire film is so wild. It's the, I was thinking about it as I was trying to go to sleep, which this is, this is probably my problem.

But the, if you look at the broad arcs for each character, like what each character sort of goes through, and please correct me and help me to build on this, but if you look at the four main characters, Miranda, nothing happens to. We've already established this. Miranda decides she can also have a job, and she goes back to work because they get it in at the end.

decide she can also have a job and she goes back to work and because they get it in at the end charlotte uh goes back to her house and doesn't immediately see her husband making love to a nanny who is apparently gay and that fixes her trust issues it's a neat little button her husband because this one specific person is gay that fixes her trust issues forever now uh for oh samantha i mean her issue was i guess that she was taking a lot of hormones but then was still able to get horny even without them and then she started taking them again which like she's a woman in her early 50s that's not actually a character arc that makes any sort of concrete sense. And then carries is perhaps the wildest because carries is Carrie cheats on her husband.

And in compensation for that, she has to give up everything that she actually cares about and is purchased. And this, this, this, uh, give up everything that she actually cares about and is and this servitude is purchased by a large ring and because of that she has to just it is literally like here's a

ring you no longer care about the things that you cared about at the beginning of the film because you kissed Aiden also which is actually a phenomenal sort of summary of the direction that they took this whole franchise. It's here's an expensive shiny object, forget

who you are. Right. This is yours now. Exactly. This diamond is yours. It's, yeah the Aiden carry, cause that is in the prologue, right? That is the hour we are treading water before we get to Abu Dhabi. That is the main sort of body of what we're dealing with.

Yeah. They have everything. Beg and carry. Yeah, they have everything but satisfaction in their relationship, which says to me, I don't know that you guys should be together. I haven't seen the first movie, I don't think, but as I recall, she gets jilted in the first movie. And then between that and the second movie, it's assumed that they reunite and get married.

These guys are not a good fit for each other. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't see the other film. But I do know that he makes her, he said, like, the line he has is, I think, like, they were doing vows for each other. And her vows are basically just, like, pledgesges of. Either thine, either mine, either ours. And the one he makes her say. That's a good tattoo. One of the ones he makes her say is.

We will. I vow to realize we will never be just another old boring couple. Because we won't. We'll never be that. And it's like. I saw the first hour of the movie. I was here. Where Big was bought her a TV for their anniversary and was bringing home

fucking takeout every single night and kicking it on the couch and watching Deadliest Catch. Like, you know I saw that, right? Because it's not a futuristic, like, she's not imagining, like, an Elseworlds version of their reality. Like, that is definitely what has happened. It's already happened. And it's also fine. Yeah. It's fine. It's great. That's surely that's the dream

That's why you get married so you don't have to do those things anymore. I will terrible things There is I don't know I think there's the movie trying to reconcile itself against the franchise because the franchise was all about backing against those things and it's like You can have both but not as told by this movie. But that's the problem is when you have characters that are unwilling to evolve, which they probably did during the series, I'm sure, but certainly not in this film. Like when you have characters that are unwilling to evolve and you watch them over 10 years of their lives, it does start to feel ghoulish. It's like an uncanny valley of humanity. Like, well, that's almost like what people do, but guess not really huh like not exactly like people do they just should have

tapped the thing on the head um certainly at the end of the tv series and certainly certainly at the end of the first movie and this is a um frankenstein reanimation of assembled characters and human traits, electrified to life and put in an exotic environment to try and make you part with $16 to go to the cinema. That's what this is. So long as we're talking about Enterprise, this seems as good a time as any to wade into Mr. Big's beautiful high-rise office, withdraw a dusty leather-bound book from the highest shelf, and scroll through the pages as we try to discover what exactly this young entrepreneur is on to next.

It's time for Mr. Big's Big Book of Ideas. And Justin, if you would do the honors. This is, to catch everyone up, because I know it's been a while since we've blown the dust off the covers on this one. What do we know about Mr. Big? We know he's colorblind, and we know he's struggling to make sense of the market environment in which he tries to make a living. We know that the Federal Exchange Commission has sequestered his computer as part of a large investigation, but he has to keep going to work.

It doesn't stop him from brainstorming, which I love which i love yeah hasn't slowed him down at all so he's coming up with schemes every day justin and um i don't know if you want to take the book from us and just have a little thumb through the pages there and um you know it's not exactly uh a character that I'm so well versed in where I'm able to just sort of generate. I mean, because if I had the ideas, I'd be Mr. Big, right? I don't know that I could just sort of pluck one from the air. Maybe you guys tell me some of your great ideas. You're having trouble reading the book? That's fine.

The text is pretty small. And also, it's covered in dust. Oh, that's better. Thank you yeah i'll get my spectacles out actually okay we'll pass pass it back to you just great perfect that way i'll be able to read it better undoubtedly i can't even remember some of the shit that guy was coming up with but it was wild let me let me let me have a thumb through here okay this page is uh he's drawn a diagram of the Death Star

but he's saying one to one scale so it looks like he's building a very tiny one that fits in an A4 page that should be earthbound and it's something to do with feeding babies. It's a, oh okay no, he's got instructions down here. It's a levitation device that uses

magnets to suspend in the air but it's got a bunch of dummies on it, so it gives milk to babies. That's, I guess, a Star Wars dad. Presumably the babies would all have to be lying down in a sort of quite condensed area head-to-head so that they would have access. Yeah, and the weird sphere kind of an environment, so I don't know if that one's going to take.

Let me just have a little look through this other. Okay, this one's a lollipop that's in the shape of a shark. I feel like that's probably been done. I'd like to have a look in that book, please. Yeah, do you want to just have a look look through this other okay this one's a lollipop that's in the shape of a shark i feel like that's probably been done i'd like to have a look in that book please yeah do you want to here we go this one he's got earmarked and it's it's a carton of milk but you'll see here there's he's sort of drawn a magnifying glass over the center of it and in this pull out picture you can see that it's actually full of orange juice this is like like a prank? No, no, no. He's going to release a line of orange juice that is branded as milk. Wow. Wow.

That's dynamic thinking. That's amazing. I mean, it's certainly not the one we're delving into today, but it's a wee bit. Why not this? Oh, we're thumbing through. I thought we were just sort of thumbing through here. Imagine you get a bowl of cereal ready for breakfast. You pour yourself some lovely what you think-think-is-milk.

You've got OJ on your Wheaties. Disaster zone. I mean, it's a good prank, it feels like. I just don't know if it's going to take off a mass market appeal. But let's have a look at this a little further on in the book. This is in the last third here. Okay. He's written the word hieroglyphics are back so he's written it as

one word hieroglyphics are back that's interesting okay all right so what he seems to be getting at here mr big is conceiving of a world where ancient egypt is back in vogue have you guys noticed that ancient egypt used to be real hot property and it's kind of gone away recently? Yeah. So it seems like John is trying to bring it back in Vogue. So he's got a fashion line here. Oh, he's working with Carrie on this. This is good. And it's Egyptian hieroglyphs.

Oh, no. On new season couture. Oh. So. It's very forward thinking. season couture. Oh. So.

It's very forward thinking. The eye of Osiris over your nipples, part of hemp play, or that crazy little bird thing over your blessing. Okay. What do you think, Justin? Oh boy, a lot of great ideas getting kicked around. Are there anything within these garments that have been laid out so clearly by Mr. Big's hand that tickle your fancy? Could you see yourself in any of these cloaks or t-shirts?

I think if he did a GoFundMe or something, like a Kickstarter to try to get it going, I think that I would be definitely on board with that. He's going to need to get his keyboards and computers back for that sort of thing to take place. Well, you could do it somewhat on mobile, right? Yeah. There's a landline at Carrie's apartment. Carrie doesn't just maintain an apartment. She retains a landline at carrie's apartment carrie doesn't just maintain an apartment she retains a landline service to that apartment she talks a big in 2011 on a fucking landline it's wild

yeah it's wild it's because their blackberry ran out of battery apparently it is crazy isn't it um there you go i just while i remember this because we're going to forget to do it later, we didn't actually drill into Coffee Guy. No, I know. We didn't sing the song. Yeah, exactly. So you can't very well drill into Coffee Guy without singing the song. So the question that we ask every week, of course, is where's... Scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop, scoop Ha! Here she boy! Where's he going?

How are you, man? What's that? That is the question that we ask, well, we used to ask it every single week. Now we just leave him to his own devices and trust that everything's okay. But not today. Not like this. Of course, Coffee Guy, truly a hero of the film,

a hero of ours, as has been discussed, necks a coffee within three gulps, piping hot, we see it get dropped off at his table, and then hightails it out into the big bad world. I have no notion as to what would motivate a man to ingest this much java on this screening. Perhaps, Justin, you, with fresh eyes and a fresh mind, could help us. It seemed pretty obvious to me, and I was surprised that you guys didn't notice this, but when he leaves, when he stands up to rush across,

there was another larger cup of coffee just out of frame that he saw. And he was just about to finish his his but then he saw another larger bit of real estate that he was like he could occupy so he sort of ran at saw that and was like whoa i gotta finish this one because he didn't want to be wasteful so he jammed his coffee because he saw another larger coffee over there and i know what you're saying why well he was also participating in sort of a double dare style challenge where he was trying to find a flag to win like a hundred dollars in a trip to Disney World or space camp which is probably

reference it lands better if he grew up in America so so he was competing in a kind of coffee competition and he had to drink all the coffee in the area so he saw a larger coffee he's like well I'm gonna polish that bad boy off the other competing in a kind of coffee competition and he had to drink all the coffee in the area so he saw a larger coffee and he's like well i'm gonna polish that bad boy off the other patrons within the cafe aware of this contest or i mean no it's kind of like a scavenger hunt which is just built to annoy people that aren't participating in it so he's not in training this is happening this is live and it's sort of going on it's one one of those, like, you know, those, I think they call them competition verite, where it's like the competition's happening in the real world around us.

Like, the opposition are people that don't even know they're participating in it. And that is the situation that he finds himself in. It's sort of like the game with Michael Douglas, right? You ever see that flick where it's like an alternate reality game that when you get super rich and bored, you get to play? It was sort of like an escape room, but the real world is you. It's a real world is the escape. I haven't seen the game with Michael Douglas. But I was hoping someone would put up the slack there

because it seemed like fertile ground. But yeah, that's basically what he's doing. To me, I mean, you know, outside of the contest, that is Occam's razor, is it not? What else would warrant coffee guy getting up and leaving at such pace other than a larger cup of coffee being available for consumption? So you guys ever watch Double Dare? Kids would have to at the end. Double Dare was a Nickelodeon game show.

Yeah. Was it hosted by a guy called Mike? Mark Summers. Pretty close. Was it who would run over like obstacle courses and it had almost a ticky theme to it. A lot of times. You're conflating it with Legends of the Hidden Temple.

This is like a, it was like a gross out thing. So you would like have to reach into a giant nose that was full of green slime to find a flag or jump in between two giant foam waffles to find a flag. The show was actually hosted by a guy named Mark Summers who it was later who he later revealed lived with obsessive compulsive disorder. Oh, okay.

Which is, when you realize that he was the host of Double Dare, is just unfathomable. Like really stressful. This is a man who would leap into big piles of boogers to dig out flags to demonstrate to kids how to do it. of boogers to dig out flags to demonstrate to kids how to do it. Has he ever discussed his experience being on the show, hosting it with such a condition? I'm assuming he has. I mean, the guy's a legend. I don't know how he- I haven't looked that up.

That's amazing. Yeah, he made it for so long. What a brave decision. Yeah. That was truly a golden age for Nickelodeon game shows. Sure. They figure it out with Summer Sanders and the Legends of the Hidden Temple. I still get scared at the idea

of the temple guards jumping out. That was always so mortifying to me. If somebody wanted to make a mint, they should bring those back with adult celebrities as the contestants. Can you imagine Kevin Hart running through the Hidden Temple? He'd do it.

How fun would that be? Or is it Chrissy Teigen? Like dig through waffles to find a flag. Like don't mind if I do, what is this situation? If I can turn the tables on you guys and ask you a question, what was this experience like for you? Because there's literally no people on earth.

I think that watch sex in the city too, or basically any movie 52 times and then return to it a year later. What was the emotional blend for you like i remember we uh we did a an episode of a podcast when we were in portland oregon a while ago called crate diggers hosted by a guy called verbs the selector and he played we it's essentially you choose songs and discuss your relationship to the songs. And throughout it, he sort of fed in songs that had coloured movie watching experience through Grown Ups 2 and Sex and the City 2. And I remember he played Sidney Lauper's True Colours. And the reaction I had at that point was like, I sort of, I felt quite physically ill, you know.

And that, I remembered last night when watching it, I was unhappy and sort of upset, but not in a way where my body recoiled and panicked like it did when I heard it out of context. Because that was more recent, I think. Like, last night for me, it was hard work. To paint a picture for you, Guy was basically, like, lying with his back to the television and a, I think uh did you have a hood pulled up over here yeah and like and on his phone like yeah if he could have like uh made a kite and solidify around him i think he would have done so to my credit i mouthed along with several words and got some really good jabs and against the characters and decisions they were making. Yes, you did. It was interesting. I'm pretty confident I would have sworn to myself

never again at the tail end of season two. But the circumstance being what it is and getting to do it again, you know, in a really wonderful, wholesome, familial setting that has been tarnished by the movie. I don't know. By the way, Justin, we're going to have to burn that room down. Yeah, the whole house is gone.

No, it was bad, but I'm on the other side of it now, and I feel stronger. You did hand me the gun, though. You handed me the gun that I would use to execute you. You had to know I wasn't going to go with the movie you've been talking about. That would have been probably the cruelest. Oh, yeah, we didn't mention that, but this was Justin's choice on i wasn't going to go with the movie you've been talking about that would have been probably the cruelest oh yeah we didn't mention that but this was justin's choice on whether it was before arriving or grown up we sent an email to justin saying hey do you want to do a bonus episode pick from the three movies we've done and i hoped yeah i did i i came out

naively thinking that you had mercy in your heart and would you know give us a a fun trip around the bloody block with grown-ups too yeah you specifically said i thought you would have enjoyed that too i thought that would have been too pleasant it's also a full fucking hour shorter yeah yeah which would have been in hindsight for my human life that i also expended probably would have been smarter but i had already watched Grown Ups 2 twice, once with your commentary, so I felt like I had the full experience already.

I would love, love, love. To go watch Grown Ups 2 right now. Okay, you're the boss. For Justin McElroy to pitch to film executives and noted green lighters of good ideas, Guy Montgomery and Tim Batt, the sequel to Sex and the City 2. Okay.

Come in. Oh, hi. Thanks for seeing me. Can you please speak up? I'm hard of hearing. Thanks for seeing me. Oh, you're so welcome. My name is Tim Bette.

I'm a film executive. My name is Guy Montgomery, and I am also a film executive. I have four names for you, and I'm going to watch your faces as I say. Okay. Carrie. Samantha. Miranda. Optimus Prime.

That's right. They're back. All your favorite characters from Sex and the City are back. And this time, they've got some unexpected guests. We're back in New York. We realized after we made the last one, that was a mistake to literally just make a show about a city and then take the entire show out of that city. We are bringing it back my associate and i couldn't agree more but how do you raise the stakes well the girls are back in new

york but somebody else is waiting for them when they get there from abu dhabi i should mention we pick up the exact second that sex in the city 2 ends it is literally a frame-to-frame sequel. And as that moment happens, Negatron flies down from the sky. He realizes that the AllSpark is somewhere in the Hudson or a body of water in New York. The AllSpark is in New York City once more. It's in New York City again. And the only people who know where it is are Charlotte and Miranda and Carrie.

And Samantha, they tell. She doesn't know initially, but they let her in on it because she had been boinking a guy. Yeah, Dick Bart. Hey, we're all adults here, Justin. Yeah. You can say Samantha's been fucking dudes. I just didn't know in this context how it would play. Please, think of us as your superiors.

Okay, perfect. So this will be the sixth Transformers movie and the third sixth of the city movie. And they're going to be released sort of at the same time. So you'll go see one and then the second one. It's the same movie, but branded differently. So different ad campaigns to capture because you get everybody yeah you get sex in the city three you get transformer six which is subtitled sex in the city but you're gonna get everybody you're hitting all demos basically and it'll be the exact same film no matter what it's titled but we'll count

the bo you know however makes the most sense we'll run it by the bean counters but you know this sounds fantastic yeah this is literally the most bankable idea i've ever heard in my goddamn life and can i tell you the last man who walked in pitched uh remaking ben hur which i thought was also a tremendous idea it's a very good idea we have a really strong track record of only making the finest decisions in cinema. I actually walked past Shia LaBeouf on the way here.

He was busking in a subway. I'm pretty sure I remember what stop it was there. I could go back and ask him if he'd be interested in getting involved in this. Do you foresee Shia being attached to this project? Okay, so I talked to Shia about it. Okay.

I got good and bad for you. Okay. He doesn't want- No, no, hold on. Hit me with the good first always. Okay. The good first is he does want to be in Sex and the City 3. Great.

What's the bad news? He doesn't want to be in Transformers 6. That's perfect. The guy's gone offline. We can just tell him we're making sex in the city three right put him in transformers six yeah we're and we're gonna double down on pretty much everything um the uh like sponsors at the placement we'll be able to place we'll get pringles back, of course, but then we'll also get Munchos, which is another rehydrated potato granule product. We are film executives here in Hollywood.

We know what Munchos are. Thank you, Justin. Well, those are the two potato crisps products. But we can get both of them, and we'll tell one that they're in Transformers 6, the other one that they're in Sex and the City 3. I mean, this is truly an idea that just continues to pay dividends wherever we look. Here's the thing, though. No one working on these movies can know.

They have to think that they're making either Sex and the City 3 or Transformers 6 because that's going to blow the ad thing. I don't want to be the guy to put the skins on this really know really strong brainstorm don't be you know what all of the reservations i have i'm just going to put them to one side because i don't want to be that guy and so i'm not going to be that guy perfect it's just that it's two movies but it's one movie on one set yeah so we have half of a crew that we're sure are working on Sex and the City 3

and another half of the crew who are sure they're working on Transformers 6. My fear is these people might talk to one another. Guy, I like your skepticism. You know, I've always enjoyed that about you. It's what makes our working relationship so strong. But if you don't shut your goddamn mouth, I'm going to slap you upside the head with a checkbook so hard it's gonna knock you back into transformers 2 slash sex in the city 1 i i am limiting our vulnerability there because the four women from sex the city also refuse to

be in the same room with each other so they are going to be a lot of vo a lot of backs of heads a lot of animation i see a lot of animation how a lot of backs of heads, a lot of animation, a lot of animation. How much animation are you anticipating? It's an animated movie, isn't it? It's largely an animated film, except for the Transformers are real. I did want to spin the CG budget on that. I wanted to spin the CG budget on the Transformers and the practical effects, and those are going to be real.

I'm going to build actual, no CG effects for those. They're going to be it on the Transformers, and the practical effects, and those are going to be real. I'm going to build actual, no CG effects for those. They're going to be real size Transformers. Taking, and they'll be existing in the cartoon New York City that will be drawn for the rest of the film. Exactly. Alongside the animated characters. Yes, thank you. Finally someone gets it.

I pitched this around. The inverse of Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Or patterned after the Mary Poppins chalk scene. Right? So it's similar to that, except it's Decepticons and Autobots. And Neutral Droids. That's another one I'm coming out with. Neutral Droids?

Neutral Droids. Neutral Droids are halfway between Decepticons and Autobots. I see. They are ambivalent. Right. They're fine with whoever has the all spark, and they're not really taking sides. Because that gives us some Transformers to sort of interact with the girls. Because you don't want them to be taking an Autobot or Decepticon side.

So these ambivalent characters, whose main trait is that they're ambivalent very important to this film and there will be some love interests among the, they're human sized I mean you know what else, this is a whole new branch of toys that we can release in franchises, lunchboxes I'm thinking full size film posters for the guys and girls bedrooms

I mean my head's spinning with all the commercial possibilities of these new Nutribots, and now let me pitch this to you. How do you feel about an artificial sweetener branded Nutribot? Nutribot artificial sweetener. I think that that's going to be a really good crossover to our key demo of bad people. So I think that that's going to work out great. I'm more hesitant about any sort of children's merchandise for the Nutribots because we've

done some tests and kids do find them pretty reprehensible. I mean, they're, they're unexcited by them pretty much in a way that we've never seen in our testing before. And is that down to the sort of visual aesthetic that you've selected for them or more to do with the fact that they're ambivalent toward good and evil? No, they're all beige. They have no weapons. Do they have, are they robots

or is it sort of flesh that they have? No, they're robots, but in sort of a clunky, clearly built out of old washing machine parts, sort of beige, like 60s, but not in a cool retro way. I mean, they're just very, they're going to be cheap to put on the screen,

which I love, but you will forget about them the moment you're not looking directly at them. Okay. It does sound like baby boomers will gravitate toward these Neutrobots. Yeah, it's the big chill of Transformers, basically. It's crazy to me that you're so consciously aware

of how unmarketable and appealing these Neutrobots are. Just the kids. Yeah, they're so embedded in this film idea. Well, Guy, I'm blowing a lot of budget getting the Transformers and the actresses from Sex in the City, so I don't have a lot of extra breathing room. And I do need to have some sort of elements that will cross over between the two. Because I can put Neutrobots in Sex in the City scenes, and I can put Neutrobots in Sex and the City scenes, and I can put Neutrobots in Transformers scenes,

and they can be sort of like, you know what I heard from Samantha? And they can, like, cross over. She says that she heard while she was blinking a guy that there's an allspark underneath the, whatever, Hudson Lake. Great audience surrogate. Why are we spending so much money on the actors from Sex and the City when I've been assured that we'll only be seeing the backs of their heads as

rendered in cartoons they're participating in the VO I mean they're they're still gonna be characters in the film even if I get Andy Serkis to come and do all of them which we have had talks the the characters are still going to be present in the film like we still need a a narrative I mean there's still a narrative. It's not Sex and the City 2. There's a story. If nothing else, I'm pretty attached to the idea of us having SJP for the marketing junket.

I mean, I've got to be honest with you. I couldn't be writing this check any harder than I am right now, and I think I've torn the paper. So let me just go ahead. SJP is in the film, but she plays Carrie's mom. I see. It's a new generation. Uh-huh. So we have her playing Carrie's mom. I see. It's a new generation. Uh-huh.

So we have her playing Carrie's mom and also Carrie. Oh, both. Animated. Okay. Carrie Jr. But actually Andy Serkis with light bulbs. That's Andy, right. Right.

Okay. Carrie's mom. Come on, I don't know what's confusing. Is Carrie's mom called Carrie? Yeah. She's the Carrie that we know. And then Carrie Jr. is her daughter

and is also in the film. And she is animated. I think if I think about this for too much longer, I might pass out. So just please take whatever money or, you know, spare items we have

lying around our office. Well, I just, I have to ask, and this is almost embarrassing after an idea that powerful, but what kind of budget are we looking at here? I'm actually just editing together Sex and the City 2 and Transformers 5. So actually I need about 30 bucks to get me through the weekend because I'm trying to get a living situation

that's a little more conducive to editing and putting it together a major motion picture. Oh boy, okay, let me just rip up this check for 200 million dollars 30 bucks yeah oh there we go right in my wallet and cash now the only questions i have left yes for you all now that we've sort of hammered this out is do you know any transformers or performers from sex in the city or people that have the rights to either of those films or people who know how to edit movies together or people who have seen the Transformers movies and the Sex and the City movies. What did you say your name was?

My name? Yeah. Steven Spielberg. And now you know the rest of the story. Twist. Never see that coming. And sane. Wow. That is one of the most confusing movie pictures I have ever been partied to.

That was honestly brilliant. I loved every single second of that. I reckon let's put a pin in this thing. Truly. There's no topping that. Justin McElroy, it has been such a privilege and an honor to have you on The Worst Idea of All Time. I feel the same way. Thank you, guys.

Yeah. Is there anything, I mean, obviously all of your podcasts are already a roaring success, but anything which you would like to direct our listeners towards? You can just go to McElroyShows.com, M-C-E-L-R-O-Y, and you can see all of our shows there. I do My Brother, My Brother Me. It's a comedy advice podcast. And I do The Adventure Zone, which is an actual play. It used to be Dungeons and Dragons, but now it's several different games.

But it's a narrative show. And I do a medical history podcast with my wife, Sydney, who's a physician, where we talk about weird old medical treatments and stuff. It's called Sawbones. And you can find all those and more at McElroy shows calm and of course Unless it's already come out. Oh, who's to say when I'll get around to putting this out It's probably and maybe it's after but somewhere in the ether either soon or earlier the third episode of till death do us blart our annual eternal

Paul Blart review show is out there. You can enjoy. Someone to look forward to. Hey, what's Sydney's show called as well? Oh, Still Buffering. Still Buffering. Yeah, she has a sister who's a few years younger than her and then a teenage sister. And they sort of compare and contrast teen life then and now.

We were talking to Sydney about that yesterday. That sounds like an interesting cross-section of lives to delve into. I can only imagine. We've got two live shows coming up. One is on the 29th of November in New York City. Guy's looking at me like I've said the wrong thing. What's up? No, you know.

Oh, I'm good? Okay, cool. It's happening at the Bell House. It's only $15. And the one in Los Angeles is just two days later on the 1st of December happening at Nerd Melt. You can get tickets for both those shows at worstideaofalltime.com. You can also buy merch there if you wish. And we're going to be selling some bespoke made posters at those events, which Guy and I will sign.

Macaroni posters. Also, before we leave. Hey, that would be neat, wouldn't it? Yeah, we're just going to get the posters printed and put a bunch of macaroni on them. That's nice. New season of hosting the podcast I do with fellow Australian Carlo Ritchie has just gone live. Season two, where Carlo kindly takes me into his home in Redfern, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, and slowly destroys my life.

Please enjoy that at Little Empire Podcast. Singular. Both now. I've got the other domain. My guy. My guy. That's big. Otherwise, have a happy day.

See you in the friend zone, everyone. Thanks again, Justin. It's the least I could do. Okay, let's go. The hunt for the wildest movie of the summer Everybody run! ends here. This is your super friendly and not aggressive reminder to buy tickets immediately. Borderlands. Now playing.