The Worst Idea Of All Time - The Making of: And Just Like That...

Episode Date: March 31, 2022

It was not enough for the fellaz to watch the entirety of the Sex and The City reboot: And Just Like That... Tim and Guy must go deeper. They've now watched the Making Of featuring Mattress Pikelet Ki...ng, Sarah Jessica Parker's dumb f***ing hats and NO KIM CATTRALL. Monty doesn't know who the show is for, Timbo (who famously called WE ARE YOUR FRIENDS the Citizen Kane of our time) believes there's something for everyone in this unnecessary trip behind the camera. One thing is for sure though: It's very hard to replace Samantha Jones.TWIOAT Twitter / Instagram / Facebook / Website / PatreonGUY Twitter / Instagram / Facebook / WebsiteTIM Twitter / Instagram / Facebook / Website Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Action! here. I'm sitting with Guy Montgomery in my baby's bedroom. Nursery, some would call it. Yeah, he's a nursery man now. This guy, Tim Batt. Eight years ago, Guy and I set out to watch Grown Ups 2 once a week, every week for a year, and we did that. Since then, we've watched Sex and the City, the movie,
Starting point is 00:00:39 and Sex and the City 2, the movie, 52 times a piece and reviewed it. Some of us a little more. Yes. Later, in 2022, Mattress Parklet King teamed back up with Sarah Jessica Parker, Kristen Davis, and Cynthia Nixon, but notably not Kim Cattrall, to produce a series called And Just Like That,
Starting point is 00:01:07 which is part of the Sex and the City cinematic universe, which we all know does not include the non-canonical television series from the 90s and noughties. Guy Montgomery and I have today now also watched the making of documentary. Guy is shaking his head in disbelief at me relaying the path that has led us here to this moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:35 It's just one of those things when it's all laid out in front of you, you can really feel the weight of this. It's incredible in life how one tiny decision can just unravel so much and what are we doing here and that is actually something i felt for the entirety of this making of documentary was um what really hammered home for me is just how much this show is not for us and you know at the risk of upsetting the people who the documentary was for Yeah I don't know that documentary was for anyone
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah To me it was mostly like a reminder about how many people are required to make a high budget TV show or movie Yeah It's interesting because in a lot of ways there was something for no one but in some ways there was something for everyone because there was the first i will say third of this hour-long doc making of documentary i couldn't really follow what they were doing or saying or they keep cutting to like a scatty jazz beat and then they would have some you know slightly hard to discern dialogue happening between the cast and crew
Starting point is 00:02:53 i couldn't really follow the sequence of events very well it felt like um a strung together series of like rejected instagram stories ideas yeah it was a series of tiktoks from the crew in the first third but i mean also you know a making of documentary like how many um points of interest and barriers we've cleared to make it to this documentary like how deep we as consumers or you know your more traditional fans who are doing it for the love of it i enjoyed the series i don't know if it's just like that i don't know if that's what i said at the time but i i enjoyed you got there i enjoyed watching it but it like this is just it felt kind of, I guess it communicated,
Starting point is 00:03:46 it had the same unclear audience as the show itself, which is like a lot of it was pandering to historical fans of the non-canonical parts of the Sex and the City universe. We're traipsing through wardrobes with the original wardrobe designer. We're looking at all of Carrie's old iconic looks. She's pulling them out, holding them up. And then after surveying so many different looks she says and we're going to put all of these in her wardrobe as treats for the fans yeah um
Starting point is 00:04:11 you know we see the middle third was them going through um what all the crew members do on a on a tv or movie set which was nice was like i'm the key gaffer and I deal with the lights. It was like an Adam McKay insert in one of his movies or TV shows, which is like, a gaffer is pretty much a person who is responsible for camera movement. So, or lights rather. That's what I mean. Well, both, as we found out in this documentary.
Starting point is 00:04:41 We're learning. We're learning. And that's what I mean by there was something for everyone because if you were a fan of um sort of like jazz influenced almost like poetically put together sound and images that's your first third of this documentary doesn't have to make sense it's about vibe it's about tone there was tone we got that if you're interested in how the movies get made and the television shows that's in here too and if you're a fan of fashion well boy howdy check out a 10 minute conversation about a hat not hats one hat a single hat that causes you know what a rift incredibly that was the most interesting
Starting point is 00:05:26 part of the entire documentary they save it for the very end it's about the last 10 minutes and it is because it feels focused i can actually as a consumer as a watcher identify the central um like point of contention the the purpose for all of this footage being there which is sarah jessica parker falls in love it's about a woman who loves a hat with a hat and it's a absolute dog shit hat it's like the hat sucks we've got to lead with that think of like a panama hat but they've tried to make it sort of fashion forward 2d she's in a room doing a wardrobe check and there's like this really really squashed hat on a table and she walks over to it she goes this hat and everyone's like oh yeah we're thinking about throwing out that hat and she's like no no no and then she
Starting point is 00:06:17 puts on the hat and then she sort of sculpts carrie's whole outfit and this whole personality around it and she's wearing it on set, she's got this bald hair technician helping her out and Tim was like, love to see a bald hair technician. We stan a bald hair stylist, this is Sarah Jessica Parker's hair stylist for the series and hair is so important
Starting point is 00:06:40 in this show because it's all about like fashion and looks and aesthetics of everything see the thing to me is motherfuckers bald yeah no you put a bald man in charge of hats never put a bald man in charge of hair to his credit he does do a bang-up job but so he's fitting the hat for the actual on the day so she's now wearing the costume she's got the full look together she's on set she's like a bit they're about to shoot the scene and Mattress Pike comes up to her and he says, the first thing you've got to know is that hat looks fantastic.
Starting point is 00:07:12 And the second thing you've got to do is take off that fucking hat because it's driving me crazy. It's so funny. I didn't even fully, I couldn't quite grasp exactly what was going on because he was like, I'm going to tell jessica he calls her jessica he's always done that i've noticed that in previous things he calls her jessica and he's like i'm gonna have to tell jessica this hat's gotta go i'm basically representing the network at this point i'm like what is going what's going on he's like she can have the hat in one scene but
Starting point is 00:07:40 then i've got to take her off i've got to take it off her because it's not going to work in multiple scenes i'm like why would anyone think that's a good idea this ad's fucking a train just tell her she's going to ditch the hat and then he's totally right because he goes up to her and tentatively tries to let sjp know that this hat's not going to fly she's fucking devastated we get a big brother style piece to camera about the disappointment that SJP is feeling, the emotional tumult of losing the hat There's a poem written by an anonymous scribe on set which is sort of, it's meant to be tongue in
Starting point is 00:08:12 cheek but it's very menacing It's about burying Mattress Black Lick King as a dead body with the hat under Carrie Bradshaw's wardrobe I don't know if I talked through a bit or what, it was either written by Molly, who's the universally beloved costume designer.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Do you call it? Yeah, costume. She picks the clothes for the ladies. It's an important job. Or by SJP herself. I want to think it's the latter, but probably the former. For those sort of 10, 15 minutes, there's a beautifully focused short story about tensions between creative collaborators
Starting point is 00:08:49 and responsibilities on set and about, I guess, conflict and conflict resolution. Or is it just about a fucking weird hat, man? Well, it's all relative, isn't it? Because if you've sat through this sort of this jazzy scatty sort of mish mash Hey it's great to be back with Cary Bradshaw
Starting point is 00:09:10 We're in a subway, New York But it's not the subway station you think, we put stickers over all the sides Shh, don't tell anyone But if you navigate your way through all of that sort of randomly selected footage all of that sort of randomly selected footage, all of a sudden it feels like, wow, we've got a beautiful little moment here.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I honestly think that Guy and I are both so tired at this point that we gave this thing a pretty fair shake because we were just like, fuck, it is nice to sit for an hour. Nothing was verbalized through the thing but i felt a great sense of the baby fell asleep and i was like boy howdy i think guy and i are really soaking up a 60 minute sit on a couch yeah yeah and it just so happened to be the thing that was on in front anything could have been on at that stage yeah i think we would have accepted it into our hearts i mean it and i wasn't ungrateful for being able to sit for a long amount of time but it felt long it was a
Starting point is 00:10:10 long 60 minutes i agree there were and there were moments just felt yeah it kind of found its way as it got into it and it was like cool maybe just fucking ditch the first 40 minutes of this. Start at the hat and end on them in Paris. Paris apparently was a big deal. No one's been to fucking Paris before. Everyone thinks they're in France. Hypothetical, mystery place that exists only in the mind and the soul. Nice reminders.
Starting point is 00:10:40 You can fly to Paris. Anyone can. You just buy a ticket and you go there. Yeah, that's true. They're rich. I'm not talking the characters. All the people who make this shit. You can just buy a plane ticket and travel to Paris.
Starting point is 00:10:51 You don't have to go for work. You could go in your leisure time. And you'd probably have a lot more time to do touristy stuff. You could visit the Louvre. Champs-Élysées. Am I saying that correctly? Arc de Triomphe. The Pompidou. champ de lise um the act of triumph the uh pomperdu the stade de france the um one of the famous rivers the number of things you could do is limitless but watching it made me think of a few moments of performances that maybe i didn't
Starting point is 00:11:29 give credit or didn't you know you don't think about the context of the actors stepping into the roles and stepping into this this world in this universe which is so beloved and how intimidating that might have been for these new women who were cast as essentially uh multiple samantha replacements god it was funny so they talked about this at first they were like we didn't want naya to replace samantha and i was like oh yeah i never got to the bottom of which one was supposed to be the samantha replacement because there was so much written and said before the series came out and we watched it about like oh they've cast all these new ladies to replace Samantha. I was like, which one of these actors is supposed to be the Kim Cattrall replacement?
Starting point is 00:12:14 And it was a bit of an amalgamated effort, I thought. I'm happy to circle back, though. I think, in my opinion, it was Seema. Yes. But that's not what they said. They said it was Naya, who was the law professor for Miranda. Well, everyone had a little turn doing it. But to me, it was the closest friend.
Starting point is 00:12:33 But in the doco, they sort of identified it as Naya. Yeah, but they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. They don't know what they're talking about, man. They were talking about the TV series as if that fucking matters. Yeah. Out of their minds. It really gave me respect for... I've just got to find the actor's name. I mean, first of all, all of those actors,
Starting point is 00:12:52 but specifically for the woman who plays Lisa Todd Wexley, Nicole Ari Parker, who they even splashed across a screen cap of a news article, which was saying she's receiving backlash for replacing samantha and that you know gave me there's a whole other person so now we're up to the third samantha replacement why you know she leaves a massive samantha shaped hole um but i thought that this woman nicole ari parker was absolutely fantastic as lisa todd wexley oh yeah she was a great character. And she was the one whose husband was the musical theatre actor in Hamilton,
Starting point is 00:13:29 which I enjoyed a lot. Yeah. And watching her, like, seeing the – I have difficulty divorcing some of the actors from their characters because the only time I've actually spent with them has been in character. SJP gets a lot of screen time time and so you can draw a pretty clear line between her and carrie although there is overlap like she does she does go full immersion she becomes the the set the set dresser like she gets really deep into costume she's very tactile
Starting point is 00:13:56 they say she's very particular about what's on set she wants it to feel like she's been living in the room i sort of appreciated that they did get into SJP's like method quite a bit. And you see, because her comment on it is basically, like it is very close to method acting, what she's doing. She's like, I sort of have to be across everything in Carrie's world for it to feel real to me and be able to interact. And the short version of that is Sarah Jessica Parker, she loves doing shit.
Starting point is 00:14:24 With the cameras on, she loves doing shit. Yeah. With the cameras on, she's got to be holding a coffee mug, opening a bag. Yeah. Putting a fucking dumb hat on. We saw. She's a very, hands, she's like, what do I do with my hands? I've got to be doing something. Honestly, I haven't done a lot of acting, but the times I have,
Starting point is 00:14:40 if you don't have something to do with your hands, those things will lead you down the garden path. They're a very challenging thing. In life, everyone's pretty natural with their hands. You know what you're doing. On camera, your hands suddenly become these very unnatural extensions of like, you know.
Starting point is 00:14:58 How do I walk? How do I breathe? Yeah. Well, we saw some scenes where she was doing, it was the scenes where she was doing – it was the scene where she finds out that Biggs left a million dollars to his ex-wife in her will, and we got to see a lot of different takes, a lot of different performances of her freaking out about that on the phone and to Cynthia Nixon's Miranda, who was in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And it was nice to see her make some different offers. It was nice to just actually, you know, for them to give us, it was not a lot, but just a glimpse of the functional behind the scenes part of it. Yeah. The actual one, like the shooting bits. Yeah, yeah. It was, fuck, there's a lot of people involved, eh?
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah. A lot of people, a lot of money. A lot of big things, a lot of big lights. And a lot of masks. A lot of big cameras. Yeah. Everyone's in protective gear. God, it must have been a pain in the ass, eh?
Starting point is 00:15:48 Yeah. Unless you're acting and unless your scene is live, you're wearing a mask. Yeah, they were even blocking scenes. There's a lot of fucking industry time for you. Yeah, you're a smart guy. They were blocking and they'd have to have the masks on. Another thing I enjoyed,
Starting point is 00:16:02 they highlighted Cynthia Nixon's directorial debut on the show and we got to see her directing process and we also got to hear from Kristen Davis and Sarah Jessica Parker and how it felt to be directed by Cynthia Nixon while they were acting against her in scenes. Yes, one person I would have loved to have heard from in this documentary,
Starting point is 00:16:19 Kim Cattrall. Yeah. Sex and the City's Samantha Jones. She was notable in her absence. They all gave themselves a pretty hearty pat on the back for how they handled her absence. It was very tasteful, very classy. It reflected real friendships. If one of us, if Guy and Tim have a falling out
Starting point is 00:16:38 and one of us just starts doing the podcast with some other person and so Guy ditches Tim, Guy continues to do Worst Idea Guy has started doing it with Reece Mathewson which actually I think would be a fantastic show people would love it, it'd be really really good really strong duo
Starting point is 00:16:58 and there are mentions of the old co-host Tim and I'm ropeable, I've been like cut out i'm ropeable but i don't have a microphone you don't have right of reply i have nothing i've been deplatformed and we say i tell you i think we really handled the tim thing really well yeah i think i i want to talk extensively about how well we handled that it's pretty easy to pat yourself on the back about how you handled something when the person who you're talking about has tape over their mouth. Truly, if they're not
Starting point is 00:17:27 there, just don't bring it up. Stop talking about it. Yeah. It's not hard. I do, I did, it did give me a glimmer, a glimpse, a moment of understanding for the fact that it had to be addressed somehow, but you could have done
Starting point is 00:17:44 it once at the top and left it alone. You kept. This is what you say. We asked if Kim Cattrall wanted to be in the show. She didn't. Think about it now. They did the full season. Kim Cattrall, head held high, morals intact, has her reasons, says no.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah. We know And Just Like That has been commissioned for a second run. Yes. They have kept Samantha Jones' character Alive throughout the entire series Not only that but like the final frame From memory Is kind of a conversation to her
Starting point is 00:18:13 They extend the olive branch to say It's still here What do you think brother? Do you think they're going to get her in? I think she'll say no I don't know Anything about her financial situation. It would be crazy to come in season two after everything that's happened. Would you like that?
Starting point is 00:18:30 Oh, I would love it. Because we're going to have to watch this goddamn thing. I would love to see Samantha Jones in the mix. It would be crazy. From a meta franchise point of view, it's like the Avengers, except it would be like if you started with the Avengers, then they all broke up, and then we found out that, I don't know, Mark Ruffalo hated doing Marvel movies, but then he came back later.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Yeah. The wheels really fell off that metaphor. Things change. Time changes everything. They say time heals all wounds. And they also say stuff like money talks. I mean, I've heard people saying something as far-fetched as it takes a village. To raise a child.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah. That's something I've been getting off the ground. I said that. Was that one of yours? That's me. That's a Tim Bat thing. Man. I never had you pegged as a guy who could coin an idiom.
Starting point is 00:19:28 So, I mean, I don't know. I'd be interested to... I'd be really interested to find out. What were some of the other little nuggets they buried inside of this? Would you want to talk about Paris a little bit? I mean, we sort of mentioned it, but like, man, they've got a boner for Paris in this thing. Everyone's talking about Paris with such reverency. I've been but i don't know a lot of people who have and the consistent feedback i get about paris france is that it smells bad oh i've been to paris how does it smell
Starting point is 00:19:54 i don't remember the smell so i guess nutrient i don't think you've been well no i i have i don't believe it i don't believe it. I don't believe it. Everyone else tells me it stinks. They didn't mention it stinks on the show. Maybe they haven't been either. Well, maybe they're just hanging out in the right neighbourhoods. Carrie loves Paris, and so everyone loves Paris. And these people who have been with this show, not just the actors, but the people behind the scenes, the people the you know the camp the dop
Starting point is 00:20:26 the gaffer all of these people have been with the show the script consultant who we find out um turned down a job on a spielberg film to do the uh and just like that reboot which seems crazy to me yeah but obviously it might be a fun working environment so long as you're not kim cattrall all these people have spent so long with this show and these characters, you can see that there is a genuine love and reverence for the thing they're working on and I would love to see
Starting point is 00:20:54 a behind the scenes documentary on the making of Sex and the City 2 to understand where the fuck they were at at that point because I reckon it would be a very different movie here's what I think happened. I think, so Sex and the City 2 came out in... 2008?
Starting point is 00:21:11 Or was it 10? 10, I want to say. I think it was 10. So we, from memory, are still, I think, we're a little ways into the Blu-ray versus HD DVD war. So I think DVDs are still very much a thing thing blu-rays are coming in thick and fast i think because the playstation 4 is out so what i'm saying is we've still got physical media and back when we had physical media there was a lot more behind the scenes documentaries making loves and films i think they made one for Sex and the City 2. I think they threw it in the bin when they accidentally recorded
Starting point is 00:21:48 the animosity between these players. I'm looking up the special features right now, and you can buy it on Amazon, two-disc special edition. You want to know what it comes with? Yes, yes. Very much so. Give me the product information tell me a little bit about what i'm paying for when i get that second disc i'm not shocked it doesn't go
Starting point is 00:22:10 through the features really yeah i'm not shocked by that i'm not shocked by that at all but i yeah my money would be until guy can prove me right or wrong, I reckon that they filmed it and they threw it in the bin because it was too spicy. You might be right. I'm devastated by that. I would love to know what sort of stuff you can get. I think the same about The Hobbit, although I know there are a lot of makings of The Hobbit,
Starting point is 00:22:37 but I'm fascinated by the making of The Hobbit. Really? Yeah. Shit went on, man. Shit went on during the making of that Can we speak about this Just briefly? Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:47 A little detour? I don't mind Dude The Hobbit man It's crazy What do you know about it? So we've got So you can hear
Starting point is 00:22:56 I've got a baby here If that wasn't Completely apparent I can't just hear it I can see it I'm looking at this guy Yeah you know He's blowing raspberries.
Starting point is 00:23:05 He doesn't like Peter Jackson. So we had, I hope I'm saying his name right, Guilmo del Toro, who got to a really advanced stage of mapping this movie out with like pre-vis on the special effects. He's a massive del Toro fan. He still loves it. And yeah, he got to a really advanced stage. And the version I've heard is that the studio at that point were like,
Starting point is 00:23:30 yo, guess what? This ain't one film. This is three. And he said, bruh, this is one movie. And they said, get the fuck out of here. You're not going to like who we've been talking to. So then they get Peter Jackson in who's like, three films. Okay, I guess.
Starting point is 00:23:45 But he comes in so late that he's got no time to map anything out. All of the behind-the-scenes stuff that I've seen is Peter Jackson, like, gaunt thin, and racing around trying to get in his head just some idea of how to make a scene work on the fly with these, like, visual effects technicians who are tearing their hair out. They're trying to build the aeroplane as it's taking off. Yeah. And I want to see that story. I've heard spurious things about what Peter Jackson needed to do to get through the making of the three films, which I think a lot of new zealanders you know probably bullshit probably bullshit but you know the the dude the dude was pulling off the
Starting point is 00:24:31 impossible and did but like at what fucking cost wow i mean i tell you this i didn't watch them and me neither bro i'm amazed they made them anyway because i told him i said i'm not gonna watch them pete and then he did that that fucking crazy thing Where he released them in like 48 frames Per second 3D and everyone who went And saw that version was like I feel ill And this looks like it was recorded on a VHS at a wedding in the 80s
Starting point is 00:24:56 Why have you done this Peter Jackson Can you imagine getting To the end of that and that is the like Universal response from a project That has almost killed you which you did out of like i mean my it it seems like peter jackson did it out of a sense of obligation to the franchise do you know what uh you would probably do as a bomb if that was what happened you worked that hard on a project and that was the feedback you got i reckon you'd
Starting point is 00:25:22 probably take about 60 hours worth of footage of the Beatles rehearsing songs they don't know yet and just lock yourself in a vault somewhere. Be like, I'm doing this. I'm going to get it down to eight hours. I don't want to take any questions about it. He smashed it. He also successfully bought a mirror and installed them in Wellington. Never fucking hates the guy.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Anyway. It's all by the by, guys. I guess. We get to see a lot of Mattress Pikelet King in this documentary. He only really gave one solid talking head interview, but the camera follows him a lot behind the scenes. Obviously, he's a very senior figure. He's making a lot of decisions.
Starting point is 00:25:58 At one point, he learns about periods. Very funny. He doesn't really take the information on board with much grace he appears to be sort of confronted he's like because they're talking about the scene in in just like that where um charlotte thinks that she's going through menopause or has and then gets a flash period and uh they've got this rule we find out the documentary, that one of the writers has to have gone through the storyline that they're writing. And so they're sort of explaining to Mattress Park looking in the writer's room
Starting point is 00:26:32 about how all that goes. And he's got his head in his hands. He's like, okay, so how does this work? What happened again? Yeah. He, like, how do you think he comes across in this? Fine. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Fine. Does he seem switched on to you? Like, you've got to be switched on if you're across a massive project like this. Like, to work your way up that high, to maintain, and also to corral everyone to do it again. Yes and no. I don't know, man. Like, the American television and film industry is so mature and switched on and unionized that I feel like you can be way more of a Muppet and get away with it because everyone
Starting point is 00:27:18 really fucking knows their job. In New Zealand, you kind of need to know a little bit about every department in case you've accidentally hired a person who just doesn't know what you're doing yeah yeah you've hired a sound recordist who just like has never done it before and bluffed their way on onto the set yeah tricked their way on you kind of have to know a few clothes to call them out but in america they've got like guilds and unions and everything's you know like certified and got a stamp of approval that's really hard to get so as a director you can kind of come in and be like everyone knows what they're doing yeah i can throw my two cents in at one point
Starting point is 00:27:56 uh cynthia nixon when she's learning to direct or like you know discussing the experience of having to direct this episode says to mattress pikelet um so what are you thinking like is the experience of having to direct this episode, says to Mattress Pikelet, so what are you thinking? Like, is the tone of this episode the same or is it different from the rest of the series? And he goes, ah, Cynthia, you've been with the show for 20 years. I think you know the tone. And I'm like, it's not, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:16 like you're not really answering a question here, buddy. Like she just wants a little guidance and you're like, yeah, you get it. Yeah. But I mean, all said and done great to sit for 60 minutes on a couch yeah i'll say that for it five star set would you recommend this to anyone no not a single person not a fan of Sex and the City. Not a person who stayed with us and watched along. Someone who's interested in...
Starting point is 00:28:50 The biz? Yeah. There's better shit than this. Okay. If you were into, like, fashion, maybe that. Like, if you were into costume design. And really, like, let's be real. Can we be real for a second?
Starting point is 00:29:04 You can be real that two six in the city and and just like that is for it's it's it's for particularly women who really have a boner for labels and and we really swim in that for a lot of the doco bold fashion and they talk about that in the show at one point we see you know in this seemingly endless montage of the costume designers going through vintage clothes with various different vintage warehouse owners we see them pull out this sort of i can't remember who made this some suit from 96 you know this is gorgeous it's got the open back it's kind of sexy yeah i take it to carry and oh it's a serious program she's like that's ugly i don't know like she's wearing it this is ugly and they're like well it's about pushing boundaries and getting out
Starting point is 00:29:48 of your comfort zone which is kind of what the show's about which is cool because they did a montage at that point of all the stuff that she wore through the tv show and you're like yeah this shit's wild and it always was and that's the thing that's the thing with fashion man it's like the gap between something absolutely hideous and fashion forward is wafer thin, and that difference is confidence. It's just being able to boldly keep your chin up and wear the shit out of those fucking weird clothes and that stupid hat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:18 She's got a thing for hats. I shouldn't talk about it, but I did watch Sex and the City 2 a couple of times recently, and the hat she wears onto the plane when she's flying to the United Arab Emirates. And it's like the widest, the most confrontational, like space-sucking hat I've seen. And because of the uniforms of the stewards who are also wearing hats, she suddenly is like, whoa. And I thought my hat was too much. And it is she's got and she wears that and that's also since she wears that sort of hades queen of the underworld hat to
Starting point is 00:30:50 stanford anthony's wedding exactly she's got a bad eye for hats and the difficult thing to discern between sarah jessica parker and carrie bradshaw is how aligned their fashion senses because she makes a lot of decisions for carrie and obviously she embodies the character she knows as well as anyone but it is difficult to tell whether or not she signs off on all of the outfits that she wears she's got very clear ideas like it is a fun opportunity for her to play dress up maybe put on bolder outfits than she would in her real life yeah i reckon sergio parker in terms of taste for hats has some of the worst scents i've ever seen and it's difficult because the hair technician who would probably like to double as the hat guy bald people know a lot about hats yeah he's working alongside her being like i'm working so hard on this here
Starting point is 00:31:38 and you're covering it with the worst fucking hats i've seen in my life really humanizes mattress parklet king during that 10 minute sequence where he's like i'm gonna have to have a conversation and i know how it's gonna go i would listen to a podcast where sir jessica parker talks about hats okay well that's great that should exist get on it i heart radio but it doesn't mattress pikelet king have a podcast someone was telling me this there's a what there watch-along podcast for and just like that. It was done by us. The boys. Alright, well listen. I'm not going to spend
Starting point is 00:32:13 more than a 1 to 2 ratio discussing what we just watched. We've been talking for half an hour. It seems good. Don't watch this thing. It was a weird thing to watch, but it was a great set. You don't need to watch it. What you do need to know is we've seen the announcement. We're excited by it.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Or I am. I'm looking forward to going back. I actually bought, I forgot about this. This is so good. I bought Shea Diaz comedy concert T-shirts, like a merch run for the comedian Shea Diaz. I bought them online. Whom you hate.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And they arrived yesterday. Yeah. And Tim and I, incidentally, were meeting up to catch up and carve out some time so we could both socialize and work. And I brought the t-shirts. And now Tim and I have matching She shade diaz comedy concert t-shirt i will say this though you got me a large which was ambitious of you yeah i know but i don't know what the sizing was going to be it's good i'll wear it i'll wear i'll put in the dryer yeah i
Starting point is 00:33:16 think the material feels like it will shrink if you want it to great shirt it is a great shirt i'm actually i'm planning on wearing it I'm doing a taped stand-up performance in Australian by the way if you're in Melbourne and you're listening to this and you haven't bought a ticket
Starting point is 00:33:32 to my show yet please do it's called Guy McGorry by name Guy McGorry by nature I'm

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