The Worst Idea Of All Time - The Worst Commentary of All Time

Episode Date: November 22, 2018

It's finally here. The commentary nobody asked for, in which Guy and Tim provide an audio companion to your watch of Grown Ups 2 (not recommended) or simply a super-extended edition of the podcast to ...be enjoyed by itself (barely recommended).A rich tapestry of story telling, questionable facts and unbelievable facts about the making of Grown Ups 2. Witness two friends driven to madness by their 40th watch of a movie made by professional comedians who no longer cared about what they produced. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Headphones on and we're in. All right. Hello. Hello. Welcome. welcome one and all to this uh a very special edition of the worst idea very special uh it's the this is the 40th time tim and i will have watched grown-ups two together yes which as we've sort of weekly i believe we're just smashing the world record week after week yeah congratulations sim on a new world record we're beating our own record every week. Like that guy is going to do that dive soon. Yeah, what's he doing?
Starting point is 00:00:48 He's diving. He's diving 102 meters. Free dive. Into the water. He can hold his breath for seven and a half minutes, bro. That's a long time. You interviewed him. Oh, yeah, very briefly.
Starting point is 00:00:59 You were like, you told him you might die or something. Well, I reminded him that it's possible because, you know, it is. I'm going to sort this cable out. There's so many cables here, guys. This is what you don't understand. Yeah, you've really got to see it to believe it with the cable situation. We are rolling film on this. Tim and I are about to do a director's commentary.
Starting point is 00:01:20 They said it couldn't be done. They said it couldn't be done. They said it shouldn't be done. That's right. They said it shouldn't be done. But here we't be said it shouldn't be done that's right they said it shouldn't be done but here we are and uh we are we are ready and roaring to go um so i guess i mean good luck yeah yeah so if yeah you'll hear that you'll figure out how to sync the movie it's up to you yeah if you're gonna do that all right yeah, we'll talk you through it or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm starting the Blu-ray in three, two, one. All right, do we have what?
Starting point is 00:01:52 Oh, that's so loud. We've got audio. For us. Let's turn that down. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we are opening to a beautiful sweeping shot of a bit of a Lady Liberty. Columbia Pictures. Columbia Pictures. Columbia Pictures. A Sony Pictures Entertainment Company.
Starting point is 00:02:08 And we did Sony Pictures by Columbia. I don't know. No time to figure that out, Guy, because we're on to our second indent. It's Happy Madison production. My favourite bit of the movie coming up now. Terrific. That was it. That's my favourite bit of grown-ups too, when the old man says... Shame it's so early, isn't it? And we're greeted with a sweeping vista
Starting point is 00:02:26 of a sort of small American town. Trees are bound. The sun is shining. It's not for blind people. I don't know. I'm figuring it out. It's a great way to start the movie, though, isn't it? It's a lovely tone.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Welcome to standard Connecticut. That's what it says to me. Well, yeah. You wouldn't know it's standard Connecticut. It could be any town in America. it could be any town in new zealand it's every town you know but they broke that in the movie eh the simpsons movie they told you where it was did they yeah it was oh no time to discuss that guy because it's our first special appearance it's a cgi deer if you're starting a movie you want to start big and uh nothing's bigger than for no apparent reason a deer in the bedroom i mean that's a different start to any day you've had i'm sure i've never woken up to a deer um you've brought this up many times guy and i quite
Starting point is 00:03:20 agree with you it's apparent early on but why is he saying open the window in your mother's hair like it's just such confusing stuff being said by lenny fader it doesn't yeah it's i don't understand how this is going to solve the deer problem we've actually i mean you're gonna have to forgive us for repeating ourselves we're probably going to be leaning on a lot of memories because i've got no idea what i've said about the movie before you know oh yeah neither do i it's hard to separate out thoughts from words from uh okay. Okay, this is big. The deer's obviously pissing on Adam Sandler, which is a big, nice, sort of gross-out, but PG-friendly gag. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Really setting a strong tone. This is ridiculous. You cannot ride that deer, Greg. Yeah, the physics of the deer have really... They've always kind of fascinated me, because it's obviously when they're doing those shots where it's just the antlers, they're using a puppet. But the CGI shit, it's like, can deers gallop like that?
Starting point is 00:04:07 Just bloody gallop around on a wooden floor? Well, you'd think they'd slip around. I mean, their hooves are used to the wild, which is a lot grippier than a... I mean, these are pretty well-kept wooden floors. The wild is grippier. Yeah, the wild is grippier than a house. Than the house. Than a wooden floor.
Starting point is 00:04:21 It's like a metaphor, right? Yeah, that is a metaphor. Okay, deers can't do it I'm looking at a lot of the dialogue what are you getting all the dialogue in the movie
Starting point is 00:04:29 just in my headphones you are getting it or you're not I'm not really getting it you're not getting any of it it's just real quiet it's like it's being whispered in my ear
Starting point is 00:04:36 oh really from a distance try fiddle with the cable mate see how that plays you do you want to whisper up headphones midway through right now
Starting point is 00:04:43 okay let's see because I've got pretty good this is a fun little technical issue if you listen to how about now oh i see what you're saying it's different on this one is it it's not as good eh oh yeah you got a great audio feed you're living in luxury over here that's perfect that means perfect. That means the Splitter's Not Working guy is what that is. I paid $10 for that at Dick Smith. Yeah, I figured you'd get the cheapest one.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I figured it would probably be a shambles of a situation. I didn't remember my wallet when I went to the shop. I was just like, I had enough coins in the car. Do you know what? I think we can just wing it like this. I've seen the movie before. Okay. 39 times.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Are you comfortable with that? Every now and then we'll just wing it like this. I've seen the movie before. Okay. 39 times. You comfortable with that? Every now and then we'll just swap headphones. It just adds to it. Okay, back to our regularly scheduled program. Sorry about that, folks. What you've missed is... So now Lenny Fader waving the monkey in front of the deer. How much did they spend on the deer, bro?
Starting point is 00:05:41 I haven't looked into it, but I sort of you could have built a few houses with that money uh one really big house one detail that you'll see is uh on the bowl for the dog food it just says dog that's a good bothered to put bows i like that i think it's a good sort of easter egg a little treat for the regular watchers ah so silly so So silly. Becky Fader is a phenomenal actress. Yes, we need to draw more attention to this. Becky Fader is a tour de force. Yeah, I mean, just be aware of that. Keep an eye on her throughout the film.
Starting point is 00:06:14 She's a real scene stealer, and she plays very well against Adam Sandler's aggressive dad character. I mean... Look at Greg. Oh, I missed it, but... Greg looks stoned. Greg looks so high in that.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Okay, now this is a baffling scene where a mother is giving math questions to her child. Okay, I think the only thing we want to take is why did we put this in? We're the directors, remember? Yeah, I know. Let's explain what it is first. So this was a beautiful moment where, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:41 when I was a child as the writer of Grunups 2, I was abused a lot. Yeah? Psychologically, emotionally, a little bit physically as well. And what I have always wanted is a set of parents who just supported me, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:57 Through thick and thin. Through thick and thin, good and bad. I wanted, I've always dreamed for some parents who just love me for who i am and i never had them guy so i took it out on the movie going public of america and the world in the form of these characters the whole movie guy the movie is a trick i've tricked you see what i've done is i've inserted a couple elements that i would like in my own life such as incredibly and incredibly supportive mother um who happens to be kind of weirdly hot as well
Starting point is 00:07:26 because I'm a little mixed up in the head. But what I've also done is I've put that little nugget inside of a giant wooden horse and I've gone to the gates of cinema and I've said, I have a gift for you. And Sony Pictures Entertainment went, ah, fabulous, another Sandler horse. We love these horses. Sandler makes the best horses. They opened the gates.
Starting point is 00:07:52 The horse entered along with my weird sexual issues. All of your problems. Emotional problems. Loaded into the horse. With my growing up period. You filled up a horse with... The clue is I named it grown-ups too. So the horse is in. The clue is, I named it grown-ups too. So,
Starting point is 00:08:06 the horse is in. The horse is behind the gates. Yeah. And suddenly, action time. Here's what happens, guy. All of my ideas pop out and they've got bows and arrows
Starting point is 00:08:17 and burning oil and lighters and flamethrowers and coconut bombs. What's a coconut bomb? I don't know, but I think coconuts are the right shape to make a bomb out of. Okay. So you hollow out the husk and you put explosives in it.
Starting point is 00:08:29 You light it with a flex wick and you throw it into the city. Why is this such an old style weapon? I say, huzzah, I have tricked you with my horse. So at this point in the movie, we're introduced to david spade's character my congratulations to anyone who understood who i failed to understand i guess that was great is what i'm saying i think it was the tip of the hat to the trojan horse as you well know so uh haggins we love you actually identified it very early on i just thought i'd keep going david's david spade is a continuity oh damn it we've got. Oh, damn it.
Starting point is 00:09:05 We've got to keep going. Damn it. Oh, we're too late on it. There's a couple that are there one shot, then it goes to the two shot with Brayden, then it comes back to Higgins
Starting point is 00:09:12 to disappear. That's not that good. It's not the best continuity error in the film. I'm a bit chesty guy. I've got a touch of bronchitis. That is a horrible thought. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That's a good gag. That is a good gag. That is Yeah, that's a good gag. That is a good gag. That is indisputably a good gag. Brayden holds up a picture of... See, it's hard to cater for both the audience who are going to be just listening to this and those who are going to be watching the film with this. We'll just assume that they're watching it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:39 They're watching the film with audio. That's how you do it. Yeah, that's true. You don't listen to just the audio track of any director's commentary. Oh, yeah. That would be insane insane i don't want to leave it up to people to have to figure that out they'll have to like adjust the volume walking around listening to a director's commentary but very well someone could be doing that right now which must be confusing you're you're you're crazier than us wow yeah okay i'll tell you what we do have on hand though if you're
Starting point is 00:10:03 just checking out the audio is 12 12 delicious Christmas mince pies. We're bringing in the Yuletide season. Oh, yeah. Well, it's late November. I try not to celebrate Christmas until early December, as a general rule. Oh, they're foggy. They're very dry, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:10:20 I'll bet you're finding that. I tried eating those yesterday. They're really dry now. Foggy. Okay, so here's the beginning of some serious relationship problems and we put these
Starting point is 00:10:27 into the movie just so that there'd be some form of conflict I mean every movie needs conflict and we're finding ours I mean it's a very rushed time to Selma Hayek
Starting point is 00:10:36 to bring this conversation topic up she's on the way she's on the way to work in the car and she goes to Adam hey Adam by the way I'm thinking about starting
Starting point is 00:10:43 I think we should have another kid just drop that bombshell and leave although to be fair that kind of mirrors the way to work in the car and she goes hey adam by the way i'm thinking about starting i think we should have another kid just drop that bombshell and leave although um to be fair that kind of mirrors the way in which uh that dialogue was thought of because we said to selma hayek um the studio executives come back to us and he needs a romantic storyline and a bit of drama uh we're rolling in 30 seconds can you can you grab this ball and run with it? Can you do this, Salma Hayek? She said yes. She did a wonderful job. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:07 They had a very similar casting process to Curb Your Enthusiasm where they'd come in and do sort of improvised scenes around the characters. They're very heavily and well-developed characters. They were shooting the entire time on Panavisions. Yeah. And we had our full lighting and mic sound set up.
Starting point is 00:11:21 That's right. The whole time they were improving. Salma was just great on set. I mean, she really got along well with the kids and in fact about grown-ups too sorry to interrupt you there guy uh we used literally everything we shot there isn't a second on the cutting room yeah it's true we could not we we could not have shot any less footage and got away with it what what like we and got away with it. What luck. We barely got away with it. This is a masturbating joke. And Tim actually wrote this in.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I didn't notice it until we were on set. And I said, oh, Tim, you sly dog, you put a masturbating joke in the movie. And what did you say? I said, yeah, I put it in a tiny wooden horse named Becky Fader. And what I did is I took the horse up to the gates of the writer's room and I said, look what I have for you, gents. A horse. Really hitting that horse angle hard.
Starting point is 00:12:15 And here's a great, I mean, I've tried this in real life. I try this every day on women and men. Lenny Fader's three-step program for getting checks. It's not actually gender specific. You can try this on men. You make faders, three-step program, getting checks. It's not actually gender specific. You can try this on men. You make them laugh. Or,
Starting point is 00:12:29 transgendered. Make them smile. Tell them they have a nice smile. Ask them out that night. Yeah, you gotta, the important key there
Starting point is 00:12:36 is force them to go out with you that night. Before they have time to realise you're fugly. Such a weird thing to say. And fugly's, that was definitely
Starting point is 00:12:43 a swear word horse that we took up to the writer's room. Oh, yeah. You better believe it. What I did, guy. No. Do it. No.
Starting point is 00:12:52 No. Okay, so. Okay, so, if Beggy really wants her doll. Her doll? Yeah. Oh, Mr. Gigglesworth. Mr. Gigglesworth. And Sam was like, yeah, you got it.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And then just doesn't think about it at all. Holy shit. I never thought of that. He does. He was like, yeah, yeah got it. And then just doesn't think about it at all. Holy shit. I never thought of that. He does. He was like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to get that fixed. And then just leaves it in a box in the house. If I was a dad and I was lucky enough to have a gorgeous daughter like Becky, who's very sweet and seems like very smart and caring,
Starting point is 00:13:19 I'd make that a top priority, man. Yeah. That'd be the top of my agenda not stealing a school bus and going to kmart i'm sorry to stop you here tim but this is as rightly pointed out this week on twitter to one of us or both of us uh this is a particularly absurd scene i mean this is like the equivalent of a second dare in the bedroom this is like what this conversation's going nowhere we need to introduce something to fucking spice things up on screen yeah and so what do you want you want a bust you want to
Starting point is 00:13:45 bust him by nick swartzen essentially he's got some real sexuality issues at the moment and also he's got a real drug tagging problem the sexuality angle that um neither of us added that in that was our third co-writer uh got it to be honest it really it was a bit of a curveball for me and guy we were sort of like, was this the tone? Is this the movie we want to be making? That's the question we kept asking. I think the best thing about the writing process for me, Tim, was that we just...
Starting point is 00:14:14 I mean, at some point we just said, look, fuck it, every idea, we'll just put it in. We'll just throw it at a page, we'll figure it out. Yeah. And I think that really came out on set. I mean, the performers were just, they were right into it. Except Chris Rock. Chris Rock was really Chris.
Starting point is 00:14:28 You didn't like working with Chris. Chris didn't like working with me. Yeah, Chris didn't like working with you. Well, I mean, you kept pulling those silly pranks in his trailer. Yeah, I know. He hated that. Yeah. And you kept doing it.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I was trying to lighten the mood. Yeah, by filling his trailer with bullfrogs. I thought it would be a funny day. You know he's afraid of bullfrogs. That's what makes it funny. That's not funny. That's scary. It's really funny.
Starting point is 00:14:47 5,000 bullfrogs piled on top of each other spilling out the windows and the walls. Anyone would be freaked out. If I've said this once, I've said it a thousand times. I apologise. I misread the situation. But there's no reason to take it out
Starting point is 00:15:01 on the movie itself. You haven't apologised to Chris. Chris doesn't want to hear from me, man chris doesn't want to hear from me man chris doesn't want to hear from me anyway he did become a little icy to work with after that incident and it's a shame that that happened on the first day he really switched off and yeah he really did check out after that that's what i'm saying like you know be a professional chris you know i'm sorry you don't have your TV show anymore I'm sorry I didn't do that no you didn't I did do that
Starting point is 00:15:26 you did that too very mean spirited prank his TV show's still going isn't it anyway everybody hates Chris he was a delight to work with a real joy
Starting point is 00:15:35 I mean here the extras we pretty much just went around driving that bus and whoever hopped in we just filmed after that so we just took a school bus out for a ride through Stanton, Connecticut picked them up we jumped out bus and whoever hopped in we just we just filmed after that so we just took a school bus out for a ride through standing connecticut picked him up we jumped out adam and chris hopped in they just unproffered that whole scene real pros bang
Starting point is 00:15:51 booyah i've never got that joke who's he talking about hey white precious precious is a a movie i haven't watched it but it's a ho movie and Precious was a character in it. After 40 times, that's the only reference I think that I never bothered to ask about or research. There you go. I still haven't really dug into it
Starting point is 00:16:12 deeper than what I just gave you. They really bully this kid. I mean, if you're a parent, or I don't know how old this guy is, but I'm assuming his parents had to sign off on the script. This kid is getting laid out. Those are some pretty full-on bullies. Oh, yeah. Bullying, like beanbag with arms and legs. This is a real actor parents had to sign off on the script. This kid is getting laid out. Those are some pretty full-on bullies.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Oh, yeah. Bullying, like beanbag with arms and legs. This is a real actor we had to get. He's a human being, as Sherry Terry says. I'm a person. You know what's amazing, bro? With this headphone splitter, I'm only getting the background music.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Yeah, I know. It's fucking awesome. That one's real different, eh? You really traded down, brother. Nah, well, I find it easier to comment on the movie like this. You've got the audio experience we've had for the last bloody 39. This is just score. The original score.
Starting point is 00:16:56 You like that? So good. Yeah? You like walking around listening to movie scores, don't you? Yeah, big time. Hans Zimmer is my boy. What's your favorite movie score to walk around listening to? Probably Daft Punk's Tron.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I can see you walking around to that. I haven't heard that either. It's real good. Sherry Terry's on set now. Wasn't she a delight to work with guy? Yeah, Sherry Terry's a real firecracker. Head on everyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Like, Jesus. She didn't really have to dig too deep. This character was very familiar for her. This is very similar to Sherry. An insane sexual being. We have never had so many harassment suits as the four days Sherry Terry was on set. It was insane. Really quite full on.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Jesus Christ. I cannot implore you enough to not work with her. If the opportunity or situation ever arises, Sherry Terry, she will rip your fucking pants off on your teeth. I liked Sherry. It's because you were a miscreant. I thought she was a real pro, real professional. Just came in, got the job done.
Starting point is 00:18:10 All the score. Shame we could only give a four to her. Good. This is Kevin James' brother. Now, Kevin just brought him along one day. We didn't write this character in. Kevin just brought him along and said, Hey, guys, I've got a funny sketch I want to do with my brother.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Yeah. I'm glad he did too yeah principal tardio turned into one of my favorite characters which didn't really pop off the script from we originally wrote wrote wrote the movie yeah uh studio still thinks that too did you know that you you you are winking on camera they can see you winking my bad uh principal tardio is just so great he looks he looks uh probably more like anyone else in this movie just like a cartoon character he's like a 3d cartoon isn't he right through just the look you've always one thing that we we couldn't quite
Starting point is 00:18:58 figure out with the dop was how we could get a shot of principal tardio walking towards the bus so we could see those blue footprints yeah we had real we had real trouble with that didn't we so eventually we just had to head on and lose the gang yeah which uh if you look carefully is still there you can still see the blue footprints um and that took a whole day shooting to get right out of the seven days that we shot for so it was a real oh it was a it was a real pain in the ass that we couldn't get the shot that's right now um just uh for the for this next scene uh we'd like the ass that we couldn't get the shot. That's right. Now, just for this next scene, we'd like you to know that we used real stunt people to play Nick Swartzen's character.
Starting point is 00:19:33 So you're going to see in the bus he's hanging from the roof. Now, we got, I mean, we heard about what... Do we not want to comment on Kevin James' mother? We don't really talk about what went down, eh? That was the agreement. That was the arrangement. Yeah. James's mother. We don't really talk about what went down, eh? That was the agreement. That was the arrangement. We do not discuss.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Yeah, so we had 15 people on set for that very, very gag that you just saw there. And we still killed a guy. Well, yeah, we lost 13 of them. It was bad news. We went to Sony and we said, look, we've got 13 corpses on set and the blood's on your hands. And they were not happy. They were really, yeah, angry is a good word for it and disappointed. I rate.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I thought sort of actually somewhat unprofessionally so. I mean, we had to get that shot. That is an integral part of the film that was the first gag we wrote that was the first part of the script we wrote that was actually that's the movie really that's the gem of the movie
Starting point is 00:20:31 that is the seed of the movie what I find weird though is that the studio are fine with us talking about the 13 stuntmen we killed but they we had to sign the thing about Kevin James' mother
Starting point is 00:20:44 well even now I'm afraid to talk about it how weird is that though? But we had to sign the thing about Kevin James' mother. Well, even now I'm afraid to talk about it. How weird is that, though? Oh, ladies and gentlemen, Gordon. I mean, Gordon Lovitz. Who's that? It's his twin brother. We couldn't actually get John.
Starting point is 00:20:58 In the credits it says John, but this is Gordon. He's a lesser known Lovitz, but he's a hell of a guy, isn't he? He's still a Lovitz, as we said on set. He's not John Lovitz, but he's a Lovitz. I love me some Lovitz. You'll see here. I'm loving it. Adam Sandler's wife. That's good.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I'm loving it. Okay, we might be on point to get our first continuity error, and it's a really tiny one. There's so many, and Guy and I do know them all. You go for it. Okay, you've got to look in the mirror at Mayor Rudolph, and it's... Oh, no, it's not for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I think it's when Kyle comes in, actually. Yeah, it is. Okay, you give for a while. Kyle's about to come in, isn't he? Not quite yet. And slap your butts. Let's just enjoy John Lovitz for a second, because this is the best delivered line.
Starting point is 00:21:39 I still feel bad. That is the single best delivered line in the movie. I challenge anyone to disagree with me now when we wrote this part we just thought the movie was lacking in sort of really outright misogyny or like alluding to the fact
Starting point is 00:21:55 that we find women somewhat subservient yeah we thought that would be funny so we put that in the movie yeah that's how the writing process that's how the writing process worked for us oh we missed continuity era too uh kid dynamite is what we named that little boy i've forgotten his real human name but we on set we just called him kid dynamite okay so maya rudolph's character is who you're going to be wanting to look at for your first continuity era that i have been on point enough to get she's got her arms folded in one
Starting point is 00:22:29 shot and then it goes snaps back to her like frontal and she's got hands on hips so it's still got a couple lines to go i really like the delivery for adam sandler's wife on that one by the way yeah are you are you married it's good sweet. It's sweet. Sweet. Toot. Sweet. Toot. Okay. Okay. Oh, look at that extra in the background.
Starting point is 00:22:51 It's a center of frame. Just... We told her so many times to stop moving. She would not pay attention. She had a real beard in her bonnet, that one. Okay. I'm looking for this continuity area. Have we got it?
Starting point is 00:23:03 I know. It's occupied so much time but where is it oh okay here hands on hips boom boom yes nailed it continuity number one
Starting point is 00:23:11 yes it's in the can I've got massive pins and needles in my left leg oh do you that feels crazy no no Leo it's alright it's just real ticklish
Starting point is 00:23:18 do you want a Christmas pie whoa okay Kmart fuck I gotta say we gonna talk about this came out were absolutely wonderful to work with they were real pros i'll just say this real quickly and the audio from the 10 headphone splitter you've got all i could hear was like the laughter
Starting point is 00:23:37 they had taped like the canned laughter they had it's quite a surreal freaking experience going on that is honestly like the movie tapping shit. That's like the movies being whispered at you from like 100 meters away. It's audio tracks that you can't... It's weird, man. It's fucking weird. Look, people can't understand that right now, so we'll just tell them about working with Tim Meadows. Now, Tim Meadows is a real pro.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Oh, yeah, Kmart. Yeah, so Tim Meadows came with Kmart What happened is Kmart Paid us A substantial Amount of money Let's just say My boat isn't named Lady Kmart For nothing
Starting point is 00:24:16 That's right we went into the meeting with Kmart Thinking we could maybe get 500 million dollars 10 times 50 500 million dollars out of them. I've got to keep checking that timer, mate, because it'll run out at some point. We'll be able to see, because the camera will go down.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Can you read the number from there? No, but the camera will just die when we need to reset it. No, no, no. And it's not an interesting... We've got to stick to the movie. So, there we were, with our hands outstretched and our hats in our hands saying look we'll take 500 million and came i said they bellowed a deep laugh and they said 500 million we'll give you five billion dollars and call it a day yeah so um we spent three of the seven days
Starting point is 00:24:58 just shooting inside the kmart and the kmart um car park one of the stipulations was when they gave us the $5 billion was that we had to include Tim Meadows in, which I was fine with. I didn't have an issue with that. I thought it was weird. I wanted to work with Tim anyway. I thought it was fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah. I don't know what the relationship between Tim Meadows and Kmart is, but they are in bed together in a very confusing way. Things got a little muddy with his character too. I think Tim is contractually obliged to sleep in a Kmart very confusing way things got a little muddy with his character i mean did you i would tim was i think tim is contractually obliged to sleep in a k-mart every night his whole family has to sleep and i mean i do not know the details between these two parties but tim and his whole family um they're living out of k-marts they're two of the k-marts around america that's what i'd heard
Starting point is 00:25:41 as well yeah they just exist a Kmart lifestyle. I think that's the tagline. Live the brand. Live the Kmart brand. We had to put the makeup over his neck, but he's got live the brand written in Kmart style letters across his neck. Which is pretty terrifying.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I can only imagine how much money they gave to Muto's. But one of the situations that came up, which compromised our integrity just a squash, was that the CEO of Kmart insisted on inserting his own catchphrase onto Tim Meadows' character, which is how we got the recurring what. He's very curious, the owner of Kmart, isn't he? He's an odd dude.
Starting point is 00:26:18 He wonders about everything, but he's got a very short attention span. He's a roid freak. He got bagsits on his bagsits. Besides... What the fuck am I hearing now? The exercise machine.
Starting point is 00:26:30 No. Where? Oh! So Tim and I are trying to learn the whole film by rote. Okay, see these two extras in the background
Starting point is 00:26:39 walking through? Watch this. Two girls. They're about to do it again. Red top, blue top. Oh my god. It's deja vu all over again. Red top, blue top. Oh my God. It's deja vu all over again. They fucked that up, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:26:50 That's what we in the Matrix call a glitch. That's right. In the Matrix. What were you saying before? I genuinely do not remember. It was a very exciting point though. I like this t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:27:02 He bought this t-shirt himself, Robido. I mean, I tried to buy it off my arm for $100,000. He said, there's just no way. It's his favorite t-shirt. He bought this t-shirt himself, Robido. I mean, I tried to buy it off my arm for $100,000. He said, there's just no way. It's his favorite t-shirt. I'm hearing music playing under the whole scene. Are you getting any music? No, I'm not getting music.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Should we swap back? I'm so confused. I want to see what you're talking about. Come live in my world, guy. Now this guy, can't remember his name, but fuck he's good. That's what I would say about that. Oh, wow. I mean, you're not listening to anything in these. No, just pay really close attention, though.
Starting point is 00:27:38 It's quite a treat. Now, this is something I've always wondered about because in my experience everyone always says pop a squat but he says copper squat that was an ad lib because but which way is correct well we wrote pop a squat yeah but is that correct yeah oh the movie sounds weird now now that it's sound yeah i've i've just got silence but dude wait because weird production music comes in real quietly and bits there. We've never heard it before. This will change you as a man.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Right on. Now, Brayden's tattoos. That was actor's choice again. Brayden loves to doodle. He loves to doodle. The original name of this film as well. Grown Ups 2, actor's choice. That was.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Oh, now I've got some good gym noises. Do we want to go into why we hate Donna? Slash. I loved working with Donna. Damn it. I knew you were going to leave me in the boat alone. I knew you wouldn't help me out on this one. Donna was a real pro.
Starting point is 00:28:37 She was a real veteran. I hate Donna. Love this guy though. We called this guy Kid Dynamite on set. Forget his real name, but he was just consistently nailing it. We called him Kid Dynamite. Which got confusing when we were working with the two Kid Dynamites. What?
Starting point is 00:28:55 Well, because, you know, there was the baby as well who bites John Lovett's leg was also Kid Dynamite. What are you talking about? Bumpty. Yeah also Kid Dynamite. What are you talking about? Bumpty. Yeah. Kid Dynamite. Those are two different actors. They're not. It's the same character, mate. It was the same person. It was the same person on set.
Starting point is 00:29:16 No, it's the same character in the movie. Oh, shit. We just missed the best line in the movie. This is what happened. They cut the gag there after that buttocks shot. That would actually be a really funny standalone gag. But this cutaway, I think we really dropped the ball on that one. What it proves is that we did, obviously. We're comedy geniuses.
Starting point is 00:29:34 But no one else involved with the production of this movie understand. Like, they would trip over jokes, not Noah. That'd be quite funny. But then they'd overcook it in the oven. That's right. And fuck out. And leave the turkey in too long. Oh, yeah. Time to burning the turkey in too long oh yeah oh
Starting point is 00:29:45 burning the turkey time to do something time to do something tim tim's just gonna change your battery on a camera or something like that uh shooting it came out again obviously we wanted to get the word came out and as much as we could now kevin james uh he did this as an offer the burp snart. And I've got to tell you, on set when he was recording it, I mean, there was no audio effects on it. So it was literally just Kevin James writhing his body in what looked like a really uncomfortable sort of fashion. And I've got to say, Post really saved us on that one
Starting point is 00:30:20 because Kevin really sold us down the river with that gag. The burp snart is not a good visual gag it's not a good visual gag what's annoying and you won't know this if you don't work in the film industry is that um usually the process is you write a script and then you give it to the actors and the actors deliver the script what kevin james does on every take is we'll insert one offer of his own which isn't really an offer when we're rolling. It's just him inserting something into the movie. He knows we've got to use it then. It's not an ad-libbed offer.
Starting point is 00:30:52 What it is is Kevin James has something he calls his ideas book, and it's a children's covering book. I forgot about the idea. It's quite terrifying to read. It's just sort of scratchings with pen and crayon. And he comes in and he's got his ideas book folded up in his back right pocket and we're shooting. And then Kevin James goes, hey, I've got an idea.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And he'll just open the book and at random just turn to a page and point at it. And then he'll insert that. Not a great artist, Kevin James, either. I'll tell you that. A lot of crudely drawn cock and balls in that ideas book. Yeah, I mean, I would not like to spend one day inside that brain. Hey, fun fact about this stunt, Nick Swartzen did the whole thing. Yeah, he's a real athlete, Nick.
Starting point is 00:31:36 He actually had to run off set every day at 3pm for his ninja training. It was so limiting to shoot. Yeah, I think... Oh, God, it was a pain in the ass. So much to talk about. I would like to talk about the budget for this particular scene, because this is when we put 600 extras
Starting point is 00:31:54 in school halls. And our DOP, he said, we don't need them all. We can cheat this. I could probably do it with 30, maybe like 35 people. I can make it look like 600. I mean, we've got, between us, we've got a lot of family.
Starting point is 00:32:09 We both come from big families. I've got 72 brothers and sisters. Yeah, my Jewish side and my Catholic side, both sides, both big. Both big. And we said, look, we've got a lot of mouths to feed. A lot of Jewish Catholic mouths. And just all manner of mouths, really. My aunt is relying on me, and so is my pappy.
Starting point is 00:32:26 And so what we did is we hired, sort of in a mafia-style move, I believe the executives called it, we hired all of our family and paid them a phenomenally generous rate. We gave each of these extras $500,000 to come along for a two-hour shoot. We just put the ballet on once and filmed. And so they essentially got paid $100,000 each to just sit through a ballet recital. It's a pretty good day's work.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I'm really pleased we did that. Fun fact about the movie. Excuse me. We had more accountants working on our paperwork than the US tax department employees. The IRS is less people than what we had on the movie. We actually hired a little-known firm called Latin Accountants. And what the Latin Accountants do, which is quite good,
Starting point is 00:33:12 is they take your regular, easy-to-read English accounts and they translate that into traditional Latin. And then, I mean, you take that to the tax department and you watch them wriggle. I tell you what. It's brilliant. Oh, here's another great delivery from Lovitz. You sure are, John Lovitz, and so are we.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Or Gordon. Can't remember who we used in that one. I'm now hitting the sweet as crazy production music sort of. It's just the production music and sound effects are up real high and everything else is down low. What the fuck is your is your split 2012 there's a continuity error for you uh this is called the 2012 journalist dance societal but we know the movie's set in 2013 because of chris rock's watch uh in a later scene so that was embarrassing for us and as we said earlier becky's acting here is uh really strong That was embarrassing for us, Guy.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Someone should have either considered the brief flash on camera of Chris Rock's watch or the sign, which is on screen, literally for a few frames. It's less than a second. And we shot the scenes consecutively, which is what makes it doubly embarrassing. And we had 50 people, 50 other family members, working on continuity.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Not one of them picked up on it, but I tell you what, they earned a pretty penny. We gave each of them $500,000 for two days work, which is a pretty good rate. So I'm really pleased we did that. I just decided to round up to a cool half mil for most people who worked on the movie. Stone Cold, it was a real joy to work with. This guy's a real pro. Stone Cold was a delight to work with. This guy's a real pro. Stonecold was a delight to work with.
Starting point is 00:34:49 One of the most professional men I've ever worked with in my life. Yeah. And a gentle giant. A real gentle giant, that's right. And I'd also quickly, as I started the point earlier, Becky Fader here. Look at this acting. I mean, I can't, I'm so proud of her and the way she performed. Particularly because Sony Entertainment Pictures made Becky,
Starting point is 00:35:08 by which I mean they are the first studio-constructed test tube baby constructed solely for acting. So we're glad that it panned out because there was quite a lot of R&D money sunk into that. She's a real pioneer. I suppose actually Sony of the pioneers and that they've well actually they did and they work with pioneer on the audio so she's a real pioneer becky um in this scene we decided wouldn't it be fun if we went to a different state for a day
Starting point is 00:35:37 yeah so we shot we shot this in alaska yeah in the middle of Yeah. We had to spend so much time lighting this scene. And just shoveling snow. We shot this. We had a one-week turnaround. We shot this in a full-blown blizzard. It was literally whitewashed, the whole thing. Probably my favorite production note from this movie is that, though, because we did shoot the scene in Alaska,
Starting point is 00:36:00 we didn't have to turn those freezers on for the ice cream. It just stayed naturally at a great two degrees centigrade. That was actually really frustrating on account that in the movie, the ice cream machine had to be broken. And so having a functioning ice cream machine was useless. But I'm really proud of the poo gag we did put in here. Now, who you can see in the background there is uh tanya tanya was a joy to work with she was a real pro yeah absolutely i she's actually doing i believe
Starting point is 00:36:30 she's a yoga instructor now uh hot yoga bikram bikram yeah hot yoga and uh in los angeles california yeah uh i mean it's a great studio we'll get the details here at a later time but uh i'll tell you what after tell them. Sign up. Tell them we sent you. Yeah, tell them we sent you. But after a yoga workout, actually, sometimes I'll nip down to Gold's down on Venice, which is just a fantastic facility. I work out with some friends. Do you know what I like to do if I'm on Venice Beach and I've just hit Gold's
Starting point is 00:36:58 and maybe checked out a little of Tanya's? Hot yoga. What do you like to do, Tim? Grab myself a slice of Blaze Pizza. Oh, yes, please. Blaze Pizza. Are we? Well, we? I'll grab myself a slice of Blaze Pizza. Oh, yes, please. Blaze Pizza. Are we... Well, we...
Starting point is 00:37:08 I say we. I'm not actually involved. It's not like I'm a stakeholder or anything. Are we at Blaze... I've done it again. Down at Blaze Pizza, we use... What they use are artisanal... Artisanal.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I can't be an artist. You fucking wrote it, bro. I'm not helping you out. I didn't write it. Artisanal. I can't be an artist You fucking wrote it, bro. I'm not helping you out. I didn't write it. Artisanal ingredients. And we flash fry or we flash bake those pizzas in 90 seconds.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I mean, you're going to get that pizza. You're going to be in and out and in time maybe to hit Tanya's second hot yogurt class. I'm never eating at a place again with someone so intimately involved in the cooking process and knows so little about it.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I don't work at Blaze Pizza. I'm not a stakeholder in Blaze Pizza. One thing I never noticed about Nancy Arbuckle before, quite a forroad, eh? Quite a forroad. I haven't really looked at it. Check it out, bro. It's there.
Starting point is 00:38:00 There was another cartoonish element from Kevin James' brother. Really good stuff from him. This is about the time in the movie when I get incredibly down on myself. Yeah, I mean, the movie does drag. Because you'd think the school's just finished, and for us, we know that the football scene... You're going to muffle yourself. I'm playing with my moustache, sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:21 We know that the football scene is the halfway point in the movie, and you'd think school's finished, you go straight to football practice no but somehow there's sort of three to five hours of a day that we just filled in here for no apparent reason we had to turn a phrase on set where we call it grown-ups time where um when you're watching the monitors for playback so you're watching any cuts that the editors would send through of our grabs for the day like a one minute clip would feel like about an hour of your life and we called it grown-ups or you're watching any cuts that the editors would send through of our grabs for the day, like a one-minute clip would feel like about an hour of your life, and we called it grown-ups time. I've heard it's very similar to hallucinogenic drugs.
Starting point is 00:38:53 People who've done that will say they've experienced the idea that time doesn't exist. Time is a construct around them, and that's what it feels like when we were watching the rushes on set. I mean, it was terrifying. We were in a on set. Yeah. I mean, it was terrifying. We were in a time warp. Yeah. And all we had to be an objective measure
Starting point is 00:39:10 of where we were on the time continuum was Chris Rock's watch, which perpetually showed last day of summer. First day of summer, 2013. I can't remember what it was, something of June. That was our anchor point, similar to those objects in Inception. Chris Nolan taught us so much about movie making,
Starting point is 00:39:29 and you can really see it on display in this film. We really respect Chris. These productions, I mean... I can't remember, was that a stuntman? Did we get a stunty to do that, or was that Brayden? No, we got Brayden. He didn't like us calling him Brayden on set, by the way. He's a real actor with a name, but we never learned it.
Starting point is 00:39:45 We used to call him Kid Dynamite on set. Yeah, yeah. Just because he was so talented. Yeah, we did. He was a real pro to work with. Kid Dynamite. So, I don't really know what to say about the scene. I don't think either of us were on set this day.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I think we actually took, this is in the middle, we took a couple of week-long holidays. Week-long breaks. In the middle of this set. Yeah, and I think this is some of us were on set this day. I think we actually took, this is in the middle, we took a couple of week-long holidays. Week-long breaks. Yeah, and I think this is some of the stuff that... You should try and get a closer look at the movie. This is some of the stuff that they shot. Get in there, and you really, you get a new perspective on it. We were on holiday at this point,
Starting point is 00:40:19 and we didn't realise that they were going to construct a soundstage instead of just finding a location for this. That's 50,000 gallons of water, which we did not need to pay for or deal with as a studio. We should have shot on location is what I'm trying to say. Possibly worth it for that, though. Yeah, I was really getting in there. That summertime shot,
Starting point is 00:40:40 that's one thing that they got right when we weren't there. That's a favourite of mine. We built the soundstage just so we could get the audio crisp on that line. And to be fair, $4 million well spent. So just as an aside, we're setting a reasonably confusing tone on this podcast with regards to fluctuating between when we were on set and when we weren't on set.
Starting point is 00:41:04 So just bear with us. Because, I mean, it's difficult for us to remember. We're figuring it out too, just like you are. We were using a lot of ketamine on set. So obviously that really muddied the waters, so to speak. Now, if you want time distortion, get yourself a little special K ketamine or horse tranquilizers, that's more commonly known. That'll really fuck with your Chris watch and turn a watch.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Oh, Taylor. Now, Taylor was a real joy to work with he was a real pro uh but i'd like to speak briefly at the moment if i could to uh to working with patty schwarzenegger now this guy should we indulge this guy is a hold on before you go into that should we indulge because there was a little theme song we made up on set that we'd like that sing for you now. Yeah, and I don't know why this didn't ever take off, but it went something like this. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba- Party time. It's party time. With Paddy Schwartz. It's Patrick Schwarzenegger. He's riding a motorbike, holding a bazooka. It's Paddy Schwartz. Party time. And now we're stating, molly fucking Cyrus. It's Paddy Schwartz.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Party time. Just sorry, I broke in the middle of that song there, because I'm so excited to share this. That's a real thing. First down set, Paddy showed up literally holding a bazooka on a motorbike, and we said, Paddy, you've got to get that thing out of here. This is a film set. He didn't get it.
Starting point is 00:42:31 No, he didn't. He became pretty upset. He didn't get it at all. He didn't actually get what a movie set was, truth be told. Yeah. Had a lot of trouble explaining to Paddy I mean the process of what an actor is like
Starting point is 00:42:48 yeah essentially but you did you really took the ball and ran with that on teaching and I really owe you one for that
Starting point is 00:42:54 because you I mean you did a lot of extra shifts I looked after a lot of younger kids one on one sessions Paddy actually prior job
Starting point is 00:43:00 and you've got to teach them the difference between real life and make believe it didn't occur to me that Arnold Schwarzenegger's 20 year old son 21 actually didn't understand the distinction I'm talking about when we're shooting of course sorry um now it's a funny story actually
Starting point is 00:43:11 about how we hired Paddy um we were actually working out doing our morning workout at Gold's and then we saw him we loved him we talked to the instructor how do we get that kid uh to do he said that kid that kid we call that kid dynamite he said that is good dynamite no no he said we call that kid dynamite which was so confusing because he insisted on us calling him dynamite we're two kid dynamites three kid dynamite sorry getting braden uh but what he said pretty much is if you go down the road down the road to a place called blaze pizza and uh pick up a couple of those really quickly pan-fried pizzas that use, not pan-fried,
Starting point is 00:43:47 baked, hot-baked pizzas. Flash-baked. And once again, you made up the process. I have no faith in it. I've got absolutely no involvement with Blaze Pizza. Obviously, I'm not a stakeholder. But he said, you get seven of those pizzas, come down here and just sort of lay a trail, Hansel and Gretel
Starting point is 00:44:03 style, to the movie set. Do you think we were right to hire Taylor Lautner for this character? Yes. I want to take a moment to talk about Adam Sandler's wardrobe, not just in this film, but for the last 15 years,
Starting point is 00:44:23 whether he's been on camera or off say what you will about adam sandler but he is comfortable maximum comfort all the time i actually got a link sent to to me recently uh of a tumblr account which was like i think it's called die adam sandler and then a bunch of eights and then a nine.tumblr.com and uh a lot of the commentary was why the fuck are you always wearing a shirt that's too fucking big for you and it had a bit of a camera roll they've got a point i always wear shirts that are too big for me i think it's i respect adam for that it's one of the decisions you made on set which i respect it makes you look frumpy and like a piece of shit you you You visited a lot of those weird Tumblr sites when we were on set,
Starting point is 00:45:07 and Adam was pretty upset by that. What was I going to do, direct these guys? No. Probably not. Yes. Fun fact about this bit of the movie, it only exists because we didn't have a trailer when we finished the movie,
Starting point is 00:45:26 so we went back, made the soundstage, and shot this scene. The studio didn't like the original trailer. Yeah. Had to scrap it. Jared Sandler was a real pro to work with. He was a real good guy. Was he?
Starting point is 00:45:40 My memory's a little hazy of Jared Sandler, because I was on holiday when this was shot. That's right. Oh, now this was a fun day. We didn't solve. Yeah. We got... Let me just check out the movie a little closer.
Starting point is 00:45:54 We got David Spade's head quite literally inside Kevin James. This was probably one of the more fun things from Kevin James' idea book. He said, David Spade's head inside my colon. And we said, Kevin, you're going to have to sell that to David yourself because I'm not having that conversation. And Dave, it was a real sport. He was up for it.
Starting point is 00:46:16 And we actually, I mean, what a lot of people don't know is we actually got David Spade's head inside Kevin James' colon on that shot. Sure did. Sure did. Sure did. Braden Higgins, this was one of the shots that made it from the original round, which we actually forgot to take out, where he was a warlock.
Starting point is 00:46:35 He wrote that in the script. He was a warlock. What was the inspiration for that? I'd been watching a lot of Charmed at the time. You're a big Charmed fan. Yep. I was drawn in by the theme song and I was held by those three lovely sisters.
Starting point is 00:46:50 And the whole idea that if you get three people together, they're very powerful, that's always appealed to me. First time we see the van in shot, I had to pay a lot of money. A lot of money for that van. You'll see it again here in the garage. Now, fun fact about this,
Starting point is 00:47:09 we named the garage El Dorado Tires after the movie The Road to El Dorado, which David Spade voices the lead in. And now, Kevin James, this wasn't an analyzed textbook. This is just a personality quirk, an idiosyncrasy, if you will. He has three five-hour energies every minute,
Starting point is 00:47:30 which can't be good for you. I don't know what is in that stuff, but he's putting those back like sort of mints, breath mints or something. And in the full disclosure of everything, I mean, this was the most obtuse product placement. We really didn't uh stitch this thread up did we no it was it was the hem was loose on that one you can say much so it was bare for all to see i mean do you think that because we've given him five hour energy
Starting point is 00:47:56 that that is a storyline that will go somewhere and we really we didn't we didn't pursue that thread and we're guilty of that on a lot of the threads. The movie, I mean, I've heard, they say don't read your reviews, but I did. I had a look at some of them. And people did not hold back in what they said about us and the film. They were scathing. I mean, did you dabble in reading any of those? I mean did you did you dabble in
Starting point is 00:48:23 in reading any of those well the one that sticks out in my mind was I feel like David Spade with his head and Kevin James's colon that's right after seeing grown-ups too
Starting point is 00:48:36 which fucking hurt great line that was great great line there by Big Dynamite Shaq really shows off some dancing and acting chops in this scene not everyone knows that shack can move they know he can move around
Starting point is 00:48:49 a court obviously but uh phenomenal dancer put the man on the ballroom floor there was um a couple of times when we were just setting up lights and stuff and we were sort of waiting around on set uh shack brought his own little bluetooth speaker in and he taught us all how to box waltz, which was a delight. And it was just one of those times in my life where I was like, holy shit, I'm waltzing with Shaquille O'Neal right now. I never thought it could be this good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Well, it's not something you expect, is it? CG was a little off, but we didn't have time to correct this. Shaq thought it would be funny if we used his dick to stop the tire. That tire hadn't screwed in the crotch we needed it to be a little bigger
Starting point is 00:49:29 we wanted an exclamation mark on the punchline what you'll notice there if you rewind the film thus getting out of sync with the director's commentary is Shaq and Peter Dante were holding hands
Starting point is 00:49:41 there in that shot that was Peter Dante's ad lib and god bless him for it yeah Peter Dante was a joy to in that shot. That was Peter Dante's ad-lib, and God bless him for it. Yeah, Peter Dante was a joy to work with. He was a real pro. Real dynamite. Yeah. If I could pick one word to describe his performance.
Starting point is 00:49:53 His performance was dynamite. He was electric. He was like electric dynamite. We called him electric dynamite on set, actually. Look at these extras. Having a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun on set. That's what I remember. A lot of laughs. A lot of love. It was a lot of fun on set. That's what I remember.
Starting point is 00:50:05 A lot of laughs. A lot of love. It was a good week. A lot of hugs. Good seven days. Yeah. And we trashed a real frat house. We didn't tell them either.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Boy, were they pursed. That's right. They actually arrived back when we were shooting this scene back with the extras. And, I mean, we just hightailed it. We dropped the cameras and left. And a few of the boys and left and a few of the boys actually picked up a few scrapes um we lost a few bodies actually there we had to digitally take out a couple of guys um their faces became so mangled we couldn't shoot with them the
Starting point is 00:50:36 second half of the movie so we did we just we digitally removed we got the deer guy to do that from memory actually we said bro while you're here would you mind just uh deleting a couple uh that's right a couple characters for us on account of their faces have been horribly mangled by the frat boys whose uh fraternity house we've just destroyed he said i'm not sure what you're talking about i said those two he said here's my invoice i said fine yeah well i mean that was your brother so we actually gave him he got a pretty good paycheck for that he did well this is the halfway point in the movie if you are curious i mean i'm imagining some of you actually watching this film right now uh well done you've made it halfway through congratulations to you this is a bit where a guy and i like to give ourselves a pat on the back each week yeah good job friend job, friend. There we go.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Now we just have to watch the second half of the movie, which I'm really excited for. It has been fun just talking right through it, eh? It's like, I mean, we can break here to talk about the experience of watching the movie for the 40th time. That's interesting. I'm not going to. Here's what's up now.
Starting point is 00:51:45 That was Goyle from Harry Potter. This is not a lot of people, actually very few people know this outside of the writer's room, but we got Becky to come in to shoot these. You'll notice that they're never on in the same shot. Sorry, Donna, to come back in. We shot that very much separately. This part with Keithy andny yeah was actually a different movie
Starting point is 00:52:08 yes that never quite made it to release no and we said are you going to use that footage we said are you going to eat that yeah and they said we're not we're not hungry is what they said they kept going with the metaphor and we said well we'll gobble it up we scoffed it we said we'll gobble it up and then we scoffed it a lot of reviewers noticed that the tone really changes in this scene starts to take quite a dynamic and enjoyable
Starting point is 00:52:31 storyline with some stakes yeah yeah there's a quest there's a journey that's being led to here it looks like here's a kid
Starting point is 00:52:38 who's going to grow up and be a football star I want to see more about Keithy there's going to be some trials and tribulations along the way, no doubt. Now, this is the bit where we had to bring it back to the Grown Ups 2 universe.
Starting point is 00:52:52 So we just had to sort of curtail. I saw a lot of the crew getting very excited on set when we were building with that scene because they didn't see the script. We just told them what to shoot. And there were some pretty long faces after we killed that storyline off immediately. Yeah. Yeah, they were not happy. I think that's a good way to shoot, though.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Don't let anyone know what's happening next. Don't want to let them know. Just give them the immediate scene. They might not like what you're about to make. And then they'd sometimes be brave enough to venture into an opinion. The good thing as well about shooting chronologically is you can put all your most ridiculous stuff at the end,
Starting point is 00:53:24 like when we got Steve Buscemi to dress up as Flavor Flav, but by that stage he was already in so much of the movie, he felt he couldn't not. Steve, that was an offer of Steve's as well, that whole arms in the air injury thing. I mean, it was sort of a throwaway. I wouldn't imagine anyone would... If I had to guess.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Yeah, I mean, I've never really thought to guess. If you had to guess what it was that Steve was referring to. If I had to guess yeah i mean i've never really thought to guess if you had to guess what what it was that steve was referring to if i had to guess yeah i would absolutely say um that it was electrocution okay uh from you because you haven't seen the first movie have you i didn't watch it i wrote it yeah i watched it you directed it too but you never saw it there's no way it wasn't my cup of tea i'm not looking that that gift horse in the eyes is what you said that's right and i think we all know what i was talking about this is this was a fun scene to shoot so electrocution happens
Starting point is 00:54:17 when electricity runs through your body and if i had to guess and what had happened to steve beshimi uh and i'm not sure if anyone's brought this up before actually, I would say lightning. Does that feel like a new thought to you? Struck by lightning while signaling a touchdown. No, no, just struck by lightning and his arms shot up as a muscular reflex. I like that.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Chris Berman, we didn't actually get to work with him. We just took that snippet from the real days of our lives and just put it in our show but I imagine Chris Berman would be a really good
Starting point is 00:54:50 guy to work with I think he's a real pro Dennis our director who we got him for this picture really wanted to be somewhere in the movie
Starting point is 00:54:57 and actually developed quite a delightful character zany zany character you'll notice the doctor later on we'll talk about this later at the party but he if you pay attention to what the good doctor is saying he hasn't slept in 68 hours at this point and then the very next thing he decides to do is
Starting point is 00:55:16 go out and get a bitch in billy idol costume costume so he can go to the faders we yeah we for fun we mapped out the um we mapped out the timeline for this character and he is a magical drug. Yeah, for fun, we mapped out the timeline for this character, and he is a real party animal. I mean, him and Paddy Schwartz got on great. They had a lot of fun. There were a lot of late nights or early mornings with those two. The cool thing is, so Dennis has this trick that he does when he goes to clubs, where because he looks dead, he just shuts his eyes and stays really still,
Starting point is 00:55:42 and Paddy Schwartz freaks everyone out and says, Oh, he's died. It's a good prank they do. I actually tried to go out with them a few times. But they were keen. But every time they'd go, I actually had to cover Paddy's shift down at Blaze Pizza. So I never actually made it out. You went out one night with them and you said it was an absolute... Dennis did the trick.
Starting point is 00:55:59 It was raucous. Yeah, Dennis did the trick. He did it a couple of times. We did a real weekend at Bernie's with him where he was our dick. It was like a double bluff though because on the weekend at Bernie's, they've got a dead body that they're trying to fake off as real. We did the reverse because I'm a good writer and I'm creative. Unique brain.
Starting point is 00:56:18 That's what I've always liked about working with you. Very unique brain. Now, we got – well, I always called him Kid Dynamite. In the movie, he's commonly referred to as Blow Dry Boy. We got him. Yeah. We need more screen time for him because he's pretty good. Look at him there.
Starting point is 00:56:33 He was miming drinking a beer, and we said, Kid Dynamite, just be aware that it does look like you are fellating. And he said. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. It looks like I'm drinking a beer great catch there by Kid Dynamite
Starting point is 00:56:48 really really good blow dry boy decided to take his glasses off we decided to go with it that was fine he has pink eyes like a little piglet though very strange to look into which I had to do during contract negotiations. Yeah, you were very forthcoming
Starting point is 00:57:08 with your opinions of people's physicality on set, and that didn't rub well with a lot of the cast. There you go. There's the famous watch shot. It's the 21st of June, 2013. A lot of people... 359. A lot of people got a pay rise for nailing that.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Yeah. Yeah, we didn't hold back with the money after that little... Now, what you'll notice here is Mayor Rudolph, in the movie Chris Rock's wife, is making a list, a voucher. In real life, Paul Thomas Anderson's wife, which I didn't know, Paul came on set one day and said,
Starting point is 00:57:34 what are you doing here? We said, we're making a movie, Paul. And he just laughed. He laughed for about two hours and then he just walked back off set. Yeah, it was a good joke we made. So if you're listening, Paul, g'day. Mayor Rudolph was creating a voucher that said free back rub to sort herself out.
Starting point is 00:57:54 She was making that for Paul. That was a real thing she was doing. And we said, roll on that. We whispered to our cameras, roll on that. Nobody tell Maya that she's on. It was really sweet. She was talking to her mother. And then we edited it into the film, and we got into a lot of trouble with Maya for doing that.
Starting point is 00:58:08 She said, I agreed you could record the character. You cannot record my life. But we fought hard. The studios, we won that, and we got to keep it in the film. Fun fact about grown-ups too, we had more lawyers working just for the film than the Department of Justice in the United States. That's right. And they were called Eagle Legal.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Legal Eagle. Legal Eagles. I think they had to call themselves that because a lot of them weren't lawyers. Well, no. I mean, they were exclusively Eagles. We hired over 200 bald American Eagles as our legal team.
Starting point is 00:58:44 And, I mean, you should have seen the complainants trying to sort of hold court with a full-blown hawk flying around the courtroom. It was very distracting. It really worked well. I mean, between that and the Latin accounts, we really stuck it to him. Oh, how long has that not been shooting
Starting point is 00:59:05 I've got no idea we've got a second second feed up in the corner there though you pay it mate, battery swap time alright now this scene between David and Brayden you know we thought it was lacking something so we put that rockstar
Starting point is 00:59:22 energy drink in in post production and it really went to town and really did its work for us um i mean the scene before the rockstar was put in was it was it was a reshoot and we actually scheduled a reshoot uh for late december last year uh and the most convenient place we could get was was in iceland so that was going to cost us an arm and a leg and And then one of the editors said, look what I've done. He's just mocked up a little Rockstar can and put that in frame. And the scene really popped after that. And if you are looking for an energy drink, I mean,
Starting point is 00:59:52 if you're feeling a bit tired at the wheel or maybe you've just got a big game or a big exam coming up and you're not quite sure what to do, I'd like to recommend Rockstar Energy. And I'm not affiliated with them in any way. I mean, I'm not sponsored. This is not a paid-for promotion. But Rockstar Energy makes you feel like a rock star, makes you perform like a rock star.
Starting point is 01:00:14 So that really made that scene pop, I thought. I was really proud of that. What was that editor's name? I think it was Edward Giles. So if you're listening, Ed, cheers for that. You're a lifesaver. Cheeky old Ed, eh? So,
Starting point is 01:00:29 Lonely Island coming up. Yep. They were a fun bunch of young men. They were larrikins, weren't they? Did a lot of partying with Dennis Dugan. They did. I, of course, didn't get to go. I was covering Paddy's shift at Gold.
Starting point is 01:00:43 It'd be a hucka for them. Do you know that? I didn't know that. I was covering Paddy's shift at Gold. It'd be a hucker for them. Do you know that? I didn't know that. The same bag. That's really full on. A jiggle eye, wasn't it? Yeah. There were a lot of...
Starting point is 01:00:57 I mean, we lost a lot of good people on this trip. And some bad ones, yeah. Thank God. Really made the whole process worth it for me. All right, and there they are. Here are our lads. Our fine young trim lads. Funny thing about this song,
Starting point is 01:01:17 we asked for the rights to it from the band and they said, we hate that song. Can we watch the movie before we sell you the rights to it and i saw the movie and i said this is a perfect match uh it was weird though because when we were talking um talking to the the people who made this song warrant uh in the meeting he looked me in the eye and told me this weird story about a horse. What was the story? It was really odd, wasn't it?
Starting point is 01:01:49 What was it? It was a horse? He started saying to me, Tim and Guy, what I've got for this picture is a beautiful gift, a musical gift that I wrote many years ago
Starting point is 01:02:00 called Cherry Pie. But I've put it inside a horse for you. And he slid a little wooden uh horse on wheels like a child's toy across the table to me didn't know what it meant at the time we checked the song in and i've got that horse to this day i've been around your house for dinner recently and i mean it is it's full of little wooden horses. You must have over 2 million of them. A lot of people give me wooden horses, mate. Can't say enough about Shaq and Peter Dante as a dynamic duo.
Starting point is 01:02:33 In fact, you can look forward to the spin-off. They've got a trilogy of movies coming out directed by Peter Jackson starting in 2016. Then we've got one coming out each summer. The trilogy is about the morning that those two characters had before they arrived at Kmart. So it's just about what Shaq and Donde got up to over that
Starting point is 01:02:51 two, three hour period. We shot that to a lot of directors. Peter took it. I think he's getting... The first one's going to be four hours. The second one's a real marathon at 17. On that second hour, he's really gone to town yeah and then uh the the third film we don't know it's i mean it's we haven't really stated release date he's such a visionary director peter because uh
Starting point is 01:03:16 we said peter sir peter what most movies do is they constrict a lot of time that's being represented into a package that's smaller than real time. We would like to do the reverse in which a six-hour morning for two police officers in Stanton, Connecticut, transpires over 50 hours on the screen. He said, I'll do it. We said, thank you, Peter.
Starting point is 01:03:42 That's right. Great relationship with Peter peter now this song that we're listening how loud is that and you can see it's all right but we actually play this song in some form through the whole movie on a loop uh even when there are other songs playing we've just taken the master on this down so you can't it's not audible but it is still playing do you reckon i can eat a christmas pie i think you can. We've got 12 of them, but people get upset when I eat on the mic, and I can understand.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Eat away from the microphone. Here we go. This was David's attempt at a burp snart. He was really embarrassed that he had to try that. That was another one of Kevin's ideas. That was the only swear word that made it through in the movie. Another cartoonish turn from Kevin James' brother. Real cartoon of a guy.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Real pro to work with. Real dynamite on set. You used to call him Kid Dynamite. Yeah, I did. It's quite condescending really because he is my senior, but why the hell not, eh? Can't be a laugh. You got your first mouthful of that Christmas pie.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Do you want to tell me what that's like? Pretty good. Sounds quite dry. Similar to the crackers with regards to the dryness. No, man. Your mouth is not moist orally. I'll take over from here while you digest that. We got a lot of product placement from Pepsi.
Starting point is 01:05:02 They didn't pay us a cent. We just really love the stuff I mean it's absolutely delicious and if you are craving a refreshing cola is that pie not going down particularly well nah this was my favourite
Starting point is 01:05:24 scene in the movie because it is where all the rest of the uh sponsorship contractual agreements we had uh were met that was a big problem that needed solving that's right to the right of the room we agreed to a lot of sponsors and we floated a couple ideas um the first one that i said was what if we're at the Super Bowl every sponsor you've agreed to get on board with the pitcher has their own blimp
Starting point is 01:05:50 similar to the Goodyear blimp and we just fly them overhead and in sequential shots initially they were very excited
Starting point is 01:05:59 by the idea they grabbed it but then we did a few we did a dummy run without sponsored blimps but with real blimps at a live sporting event. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Over 50 blimps collided in a ball of gas. I mean, you thought the Hindenburg was bad? This was a Hindenburg of a Hindenburg. Imagine 50 Hindenburgs colliding of the Major League Baseball final. Luckily, we didn't lose any lives on that one by some miracle. Lost type of sponsors, though.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Dell Computers. Yeah, Dell dropped out. Carlsberg. Yeah. Well, we were iffy on Carlsberg because we didn't know about having an alcohol sponsor. JCPenney. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:45 JCPenney. That was a big loss for me. I was looking forward to the contra that JCPenney could give. What did JCPenney make again? Clothes? Yep. Yeah, I was really looking forward to wearing some JCPenney garb. This fucking movie, eh?
Starting point is 01:07:03 It's just like finished it's just scene after scene after scene after scene after scene what is it amounting to? nothing we're on a freight train to nowhere just arrives at a bridge with unfinished railing
Starting point is 01:07:20 we go careening off the fucking thing into the water, into the rocks and we all just wallow around in the shallows crying impaled so what i like about this scene is uh we went back to alaska yeah there was a pain in the ass well we built it we built this we had already come back to the main studio in la yeah we built this. We had already come back to the main studio in LA. Yeah. We built this. We were like, nope.
Starting point is 01:07:48 We're going to get that nighttime shot. Fuck, Guy said. Let's get back to the airport. You are not going to like this, I said. Yeah, and we had to get straight back to the airport. I mean, it was a very expensive set to build, which did make it impractical having it in. Can I entertain you? Just want to say. Yeah, it did make it it impractical having it in... Good on you, Chania.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Just want to say it. Yeah, it did make it very impractical having it in Alaska. There are a lot of production oversights like that, and I don't know who should be held responsible for those because, I mean, we did have final sign-off on everything, so a lot of people... We did have 600 people working under us.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah. Friends and whanau. And a lot of people said that there was too many cooks. But when it comes to making movies in Hollywood, you can never have too many cooks. Now, you might want to check out the movie a little bit closer up to the screen. Tim got me with a good gag there.
Starting point is 01:08:41 When Bumpty says dinosaur, I didn't know it was part of his rap. What does he say? He says, sorry, that means you ain't got it. And he rhymes with dinosaur. Sorry to be blunt, but I don't front. I'm hardcore. I'm hardcore.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Beat. And a lot of people said we held the beat too long. Yeah, definitely. For the joke to work. I broke the rhythm. You still got it. Even in costume, you'll notice adam is supremely comfortable i'll tell you one little fuck what they didn't get called kid dynamite on set no that's keith yeah keithy
Starting point is 01:09:15 he's a little ball of energy uh fuck what we cgi the dog in the scene for no fun he took direction fine you did those mean pranks to him in his trailer, though, and that really antagonized the game. I actually didn't know he was afraid of snakes, though. That's the difference with that. Yeah, that was. Which I explained at the time. But he still didn't take that one.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Neither did his parents. They actually took him off. That's pretty funny, though, filling a trailer with snakes. Yeah, that was a good one. That's funny. That is funny. That was really funny. Yeah, one of the snakes did.
Starting point is 01:09:44 It ate his hamster though. And that hamster was as old as him. I mean, they've been best friends since, from memory for Keith. Fucking weird hamster. Yeah. It was a weird friendship too. One of my favourite deliveries there from Salma Hayek. Probably number one for me on the list.
Starting point is 01:10:00 In front of the children. She's really cranking that accent up to 11 there. It took a lot of takes for us to get the right energy for that. A lot of them we thought she oversold it. So, I mean, after about 50, we were sort of laughing to ourselves, going, I don't know if we're ever going to get this shot. Do we have one in there? But then we said, just one more, Selma.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Just turn it down to zero. Turn the intensity down to zero. If you think you're at zero? Go south of that. That's right. We're looking for negative four. And she finally got one.
Starting point is 01:10:31 At this point you think the movie's ending. It isn't? Yeah. And it's like a cold slap in the face with a big
Starting point is 01:10:40 old trout. I am, yeah. Your guests are here. I'm running out of steam for this movie i might actually just delve in closer yeah take a look at those pixels mate get them in you swish them around in your head see what happens just be careful that glass of water mate there's a
Starting point is 01:10:54 there's a lot of electronics yeah power cables around situation on our hands here uh so ladies and gents if you're not the movie, but you're listening to this for some... Like, who are you if you're doing that? We're at the Faders' house. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful house. We shot this at Guy's house. He bought this place immediately after we got Grown Ups 2 signed, and we had a couple meetings with some corporations
Starting point is 01:11:23 who would appreciate it if we pop their brand you know see if we could fit it in the film for a little bit of money um there's nothing dirty about that that's commerce that's how you make a movie and that's how we made a movie and that's how i bought this house yeah lovely house we destroyed it uh for the party scene which was disappointing like we literally we we shot a scene where we burnt it down uh in real life we burnt down my house uh but it just didn't really wash with the rest of the film so we didn't we didn't use it uh and i forgot to tell it's embarrassing my brother and his family was saying and i forgot to tell them uh and it wasn't until they were inside a full-blown inferno oh uh that they realized that and they they got out luckily
Starting point is 01:12:08 but i mean jesus i was red in the face and they they were too i mean they yeah that was and it was an oversight on my part i guess wasn't i mean how was i to know shan we didn't use that shot actually quite a nice shot of the whole the whole house burning on. You'll see a continuity error here, folks. Look at the raft when it first comes out. It doesn't have any barriers in the middle to act as seats. And when we go to the close-up shot, we've put seats in. To me, that's so obvious. I think more people noticed that.
Starting point is 01:12:35 I think I noticed that on the first watch. You saw that so... It wasn't first, but it was very early on. It's a glaring... And the raft is inconsistent throughout the whole film. Yeah. It keeps flickingaring... And the raft is consistent, inconsistent throughout the whole film. Yeah. It keeps flicking between the seats and no seats.
Starting point is 01:12:48 That was a funny line when he says Richard Simmons is a hero to me. Men's spirit is a bit funny. Yeah. Is it funny? Is it funny because he's fat? That is the joke.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Okay. ZZ Top. My uncles. Your uncles. My uncles are ZZ Top. Your uncles. My uncles are ZZ Top. Your uncles. The sort of singular or plural confusion is getting me here. Your uncles.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Are ZZ Top. Are the band ZZ Top. All of your uncles are in ZZ Top. Yes. Wow. Except Mike Beard. That's why we've costumed the two little kids in there. We just ought to be funny to have people dress up like Prince at this point Could not get Tim Meadow's wife
Starting point is 01:13:31 Whose name I can't remember off the top of my head Could not get her to focus on set And I'll point out a couple of takes where We shot it a couple of times It was no more than three But of those three that we shot Across the seven days of shooting, she fucked up all of them.
Starting point is 01:13:48 And so we just had to go with the one that she fucked up the least. And that really annoyed me. Really perturbed by that. David Spade, though, just continuing to carry this movie on his broad comedy shoulders, almost single-handedly. He was a joy to work with. He was a real pro, actually, was David Spade. Him and Gordon Lovitz.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Yeah, Gordon Lovitz. I mean, we gave him a real turd of a script, and he made it shine. He buffed that turd right out. Sure did. Polished it up, turned it into something really, really able to fit inside a wooden horse. Yeah, it's a funny way to buff out fit inside a wooden horse. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:25 It's a funny way to buff down a turd in a horse. You've got that on your mantle piece, didn't you? Yeah. Next to your Oscars. Yeah. Don't confuse what we're saying for a metaphor. There was a real turd that we wrote the script onto. We wrote it on a human turd.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Now, my nephew and your niece, my nephew Isaac and your niece Carol, they go out and they baked us this rubik's cube cake yes uh we did not ask for this no and and they just showed up on set with this cake and we said that is just adorable and we said wait a minute let's roll with this we're at guy's house we're all here partying anyway why don't we everyone we'll get costume in here just everyone chill out have some drinks but stay we've got the film crew to come in soundy's got in lighting set up and we just kept rolling with the party we were already having but we turned it into a movie and it would the fact
Starting point is 01:15:15 that it's 80s theme is all based on the fact that carol brought in that car and there's a see there's the doctor there again in his billy idol costume i mean at this point uh i believe dennis he hadn't slept for two weeks. He was frantic, frenzied. We thought it was impressive that his character hadn't slept for three days, but Dennis himself had not slept for two weeks. And God knows what he was doing. I think he did an Iron Man in Berlin, he said,
Starting point is 01:15:38 and he also swam the English Channel. I mean, he is a pocket rocket. He gets a head full of steam and you cannot stop the guy. Real pro to work with though. A real joy. I thought so too. I thought so too, guy. One of my favourite
Starting point is 01:15:53 bit of extras acting is you'll see a lady just walked in behind Kevin James and she's talking to a friend. Yeah. Now, just bear that in mind while we discover
Starting point is 01:16:00 that Kevin James' son is a musical genius. For the longest time I thought he was playing that. Could not figure out if it was dubbed or not. Yeah, really good finger acting. This kid was a real pro. He was a real joy to work with. Really good.
Starting point is 01:16:14 We called him Nigel, I think, which wasn't his name. So here are the extras in the background, and just look at how well they sell their disgust. Oh, yeah, you're right, man. That's because kevin actually shed himself on that take uh and when kevin does shit himself it was in his ideas book of course uh let me tell you i mean everyone within a 500 meter radius knows about it and those women were on the front end of essentially a sonic boom of shit um and that that's why it was such a good
Starting point is 01:16:42 take that's why we put it in it was the reality of the situation that sold it. Finally, I got some audio again. It's quite silent for a lot of the film with these in A. It's probably because it's showing all the stuff that isn't just them talking. And you know we didn't have a big budget for Post Pro on this film. You know that. Because you know what happened to that budget. know that because you know what happened to that budget
Starting point is 01:17:05 well don't you i know exactly what happened that budget i'd do it again in a heartbeat it's regretful if you haven't learned anything um so out of context you're right the scene is a bit dark it is Adam Sandler trying to lull his child into sleep by telling her a terrifying story
Starting point is 01:17:31 and then when that doesn't work oh my god really that's everything he drugs her tries to Becky is she was a resistant
Starting point is 01:17:38 and I'm proud of her she said I'm not taking drugs on set she's a real pro to work with that was in the script that must have been one of the ketamine days but we wrote in that Becky did take the drugs She said, I'm not taking drugs on set. She's a real pro to work with. That was in the script.
Starting point is 01:17:47 That must have been one of the ketamine days. But we wrote in that Becky did take the drugs. Again, I'm not sure. Is there a continuity error with her costume here? She's wearing that blazer. Oh, no, no. This is great. I haven't noticed this before.
Starting point is 01:18:01 See, she's got her jacket all done up and you can't see her T-shirt saying, I Lenny Lenny. That'll be because she's arriving at the party with her husband is she still wearing oh but then later on when lenny's meant to meet her by the letterbox she's undone her buttons to show the t-shirt which says i lenny lenny this is one of those situations that there are many where the costume department were better at writing scripts than we were and when they we wouldn't let them in they they would tell their story through costume and i have to admit admit, they're better storytellers. They slip one through the gate. Arguably the nurse.
Starting point is 01:18:30 What they've done is they've put their storyline in a wooden horse, and they've put some gorgeous clothes on that horse and just left it at the actor's gates. And the actors have said, lovely horse, well-dressed, with a bow tie coming. Which is horse well dressed with a bow tie come in which is why i'm wearing a bow tie today guy i love that global warming gag that's one of i really i'm really proud of us for putting that in there and i've got a strange affinity to the uh um you're gonna need federal aid to clean that up yeah you do like that there's something pseudo it's not political but
Starting point is 01:19:05 it's it's politics ish it's yeah whatever whatever sort of handles you have to hang on to sanity while watching the movie politic politic politic oh yeah we've missed it yeah that's where adam sandler asks a lot of questions seven remember how Adam Sandler at the start of the movie said, I'm going to solve this problem for you, and then he just put the monkey in a box and left it there? He is so lucky that that guy learned how to sew. Oh, yeah. He had no plan.
Starting point is 01:19:40 We got in a lot of trouble for this. We've forced him into a bear to a dog down in a beer funnel. And I tell you what, forget PETA. It's those cunts who are working in the film industry who want to protect all the animals' rights that are the real threat. Those film animal officers. That's what they're called, I believe. I was actually pretty pissed off when Shaq broke my diving board
Starting point is 01:20:05 you laughed I laughed at the time but I was furious I was seething inside and it was actually after that happened that we rewrote the script to burn the whole thing down and claim back on insurance it's a smart move on your behalf actually
Starting point is 01:20:20 we made a lot of money I still don't know if the die in the pool thing is an urban legend that we just put in or if it's a real thing it's an urban legend that we put does it not exist it doesn't exist yeah how sure are you on that yeah 100 are you i'm 100 sure why because someone's told it to us on a previous podcast. Okay. I think maybe Dom Corey. And Dom Corey knows everything. Brayden Higgins is just... We couldn't stop him in this party scene.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Could not put a lid on that kid. He'd been spending a bit of time just around Paddy Schwartz's trailer. And he just came back from that place fizzing, ready to go. Eyes as wide as anything. Eyes the size of saucers. A lot of blood noses on set as well, but we edited those out in post. Blunt noses? Blood. Blood noses.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Absolutely. That makes a lot more sense than blunt noses. I'm not sure why I thought you said that. Tomatoes. Fun fact about tomatoes Meadows he's 85 yeah he's so well preserved though
Starting point is 01:21:31 because of those Kmart lights that's how he keeps that sort of the sun's harmful radiation doesn't get him in the department at Kmart no well I mean because we're actually remembering it now we had to shoot all of Tim Meadows scenes inside of Kmart.
Starting point is 01:21:45 So while we did have this scene set at my house, for Tim Meadows' parts in this scene, we had to fit out a Kmart as outside at my house. Yeah, it's weird what's happened to his skin. So he's lost the ability to process Earth's yellow sun's light. And now Kart owns him yeah so that's what that's about now this is a uh again this is something i put in i'll be the first to admit it this was my journey as a child i got bullied a lot Yeah And By Stone Cold Steve Austin as well
Starting point is 01:22:26 Yeah He used to fly over Remember he used to fly over From his events And he'd come down To your intermediate school And he'd kick you around the place Certainly would
Starting point is 01:22:35 Threw you down the slide There I was thinking It's the bronchitis again It's been there ever since Stone Cold kneed me in the chest once I got infected It's never there ever since Stone Cold kneed me in the chest once. I got infected. It's never really come right. Yeah, no. I thought that I'd
Starting point is 01:22:50 kind of get some credit points because Stone Cold Steve Austin was flying all the way to kick my ass, but the kids didn't get wrestling because I live in New Zealand and no one had a TV. They thought it was strange, really, didn't they? Why does this big man come and beat up Tim once a month? It's like regularly.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Yeah. It's odd. So I put it in the script, and this is kind of how I... This is obviously how you resolve things. This was quite cathartic for you. Yeah. When you're trying to resolve the cycle of bullying, the best way to do that is to call a fight.
Starting point is 01:23:27 I think. Fight! Okay, hold on. Oh, how good. It's Stone Cold Steve Austin's pronunciation of the word potatoes. I can't hear it. Oh, you can't, can you? Sorry, it sounded like me.
Starting point is 01:23:41 It is good, though. Potatoes. Peter Dante, and the physical form of his life yeah what you pointed at your headphones like you're hearing it was getting real loud there yeah because there was some production just to recreate it for anyone listening fantastic if you are still watching i mean mean, you're technically almost finished watching. There's still a bit to go, but you've almost watched Grown Ups 2. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:09 After we've spent so long telling you not to. So, I mean, congratulations, I guess. And sorry. Yeah. Isn't that a neat thought, though? What? Well, I mean, you know, some people are actually going to get to be watching. Some people might be watching Grown Ups 2 for the first time right now.
Starting point is 01:24:27 They might have actually held off for 40 episodes, and now they're watching it for the first time. I mean, this is a big moment for them. This is what they've heard people talking about 39 times in a row. I just considered that then. I hadn't thought about that the whole time. Do you think that's interesting? I think that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Don't you? I don't know. Yes. What do you want from me, man? They must just have a really weird... Remember how we thought it would be funny if people wrote down what they thought the timeline of the movie was? Yeah. I mean, they've all got an idea in their head of the action and how it plays out.
Starting point is 01:24:58 This is the first time they've seen it pieced together as it was intended. Oh, yeah. Okay, that is interesting. So who are we talking about? Three people? Two people? I don't know. I imagine lots of them haven't watched Grown Ups 2. We discourage them every week. We do.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Oh man, that mallet guy's got a good reaction. We've sullied you. We've taken you into a closet and we've punched you around and then we've thrown you out on the street and said good luck. And for that I apologise. Like Stone Cold did to me on here so you know her t-shirt is
Starting point is 01:25:29 i leonard leonard and she's lost the jacket i think that's that's costume planting a really good joke in there going on them god bless them and the wooden horse they rode in on back to a sweeping shot of the frat boys descending upon the party and uh this scene was inspired by i had just read lord of the flies oh great book you read anything else by william golding can't say i have no neither but i mean i remember that book being so gripping surely he wrote something else which was good you would think so It's such an easy read too because it's quite short. And the language is very lovely. The novella is one of my favorite lengths of anything to read.
Starting point is 01:26:12 It's like a good little session with a book, you know? Totally. Stephen King, quite a master of the novella. I haven't read any of Stephen King's novellas. Oh, you should. Stand By Me is based on a novella. Yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:24 I haven't watched stand by me yeah novelle no hell yeah that's what steven calls them and we're back to the film at this point uh the frat boys are interfacing with the community of standing connecticut who are all in fader's house we i forgot what was happening while we were shooting. I wrote this thing. We thought this was a bit of a leap that the whole university sort of part of town and the whole rest of the town, just no one got on or had any connection whatsoever.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Tim Meadows and his wife just slacking off in the background. Look at that. Just fucking pay attention. Focus, woman. To be honest, no one really cared by this point. No one was paying attention. We took the actor's scripts off them and we said, look,
Starting point is 01:27:10 can you just figure out a way to end this? End this? He got a gun to his head at the time. It was terrifying. So they just ad-libbed this whole bit. Find a way to end this. This whole fight scene. They orchestrated it. They choreographed it themselves. We've spent the whole budget by now. And they quite literally made this up on the spot. And the only reason they orchestrated it they choreographed it themselves we've spent the whole budget by now and they
Starting point is 01:27:25 quite literally they made this up on the spot and the only reason they were so keen to do it and didn't walk off set is they needed some sort of closure for the whole experience
Starting point is 01:27:33 they also needed a movie to get out there and shop around you know go this is me you know a lot of the actors
Starting point is 01:27:41 weren't desperate I mean you know guys like Kevin Jarrett they've all got their names out there they didn't need this But they God bless their souls The professionals they are
Starting point is 01:27:48 They finished it Paddy Schwartz Let's not beat around the bush It was pretty much just Paddy Schwartz Who wanted to see this released Paddy Schwartz is the reason the movie exists Paddy and Arnie's Strong armed Sony
Starting point is 01:28:00 To get it out there You can Certainly get some pretty powerful Friends when you're the governor Of California to get it out there. You can certainly get some pretty powerful friends when you're the governor of California. And still a pretty big figure in the bodybuilding community. I mean, what he literally has is a lot of physically powerful friends. Back into movies now, though, for Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Starting point is 01:28:20 What's he working on? I think there might be a Terminator movie in the works right now. That's cool. I've seen him in The Expendables recently. I know it's cold outside. What was The Expendables like? Really liked it. The only problem with The Expendables is,
Starting point is 01:28:38 because this is an action movie, we're at this point talking about an entirely different movie during the director's commentary. They mixed the sound down so low so everything's spacey. Rewind it quickly. Sorry, there's a bit where everyone's frozen on set. We can't expect anyone to rewind because they would have to re-sync. Just say it.
Starting point is 01:28:57 At the right time again. Just say it. It's not like... There's just a shot where everyone on set is frozen completely and then they move. It's like a half a frame on set is frozen completely and then they move it's like a half a frame and it's really jarring way to go guy
Starting point is 01:29:12 fuck what was I talking about? I don't know you were talking about the expendables oh yeah yeah yeah so they've mixed all the sound too like it's real boomy and bassy but as a result
Starting point is 01:29:20 I could not understand anything Sylvester Stallone was saying yeah like couldn't understand a fucking word of his dialogue. But still, cool movies. Dug him. Great swell from Blow Dry Boy there. Yep. Called him Kid Dynamite on sex.
Starting point is 01:29:35 He just delivered every single take. And Kid Dynamite here bringing the noise with that bite. I mean, if you're watching... We called this Asian guy Sensei Dynamite because he taught us how to do our fight choreography. Paul Hudson was very demanding in that we put in this choreographed dance scene and we had to sell it somehow as part of a fight.
Starting point is 01:29:56 So we just put another person for him to play against. Sensei Dynamite. He didn't know that he was in a fight scene. He genuinely thought that that was... He was dressed in a unitard for that take. And we put that Indiana Jones costume on him in post. I mean, he would not take part in a fight scene, but he was very insistent on getting that dance in there.
Starting point is 01:30:12 That was a challenge I heard as well from our visual effects department. Like, tough, man. Like, forget smog. This was hard. I'm just so glad. I mean, at this point, I feel my muscles start to relax,
Starting point is 01:30:26 my brain starts to relax, because I know that we're nearly at the... Sphincters are... At the finish line. ...alleviating their pressure. That'd be weird, then you'd shit wherever you were at this point in the movie.
Starting point is 01:30:36 That's right. Is that how sphincters work? Am I saying sphincter right? Sphincter. Sphincter. I say sphincter. Yeah, that sounds more right. We've really gone off the rails.
Starting point is 01:30:51 What do you expect? What do you want from us what what honestly i think i'm gonna click that on again we're dancing on the field and dancing on this i always thought it was funny how this guy thinks it's hilarious to meadows is bald i actually always think that tim um tim thought that and then i started noticing it and that is funny what's that? how excited this guy is that Tim Meadows is bald yeah it's good eh he's got he's got
Starting point is 01:31:12 I got a I got a wild one wow good stunt eh yeah do you want to know how we did that? do you say do I know? do you know?
Starting point is 01:31:23 no do you want to know? yeah we put him on a wire pretty cool story huh pretty simple that was one of the times that we just followed the book sometimes the the most obvious option is the best option yes and that's razor of yeah that was something we'd learned by the end of the shoot uh so taylor lautner with the most incredible kick i've seen in cinema taylor lautner is a is a judo a judo expert a judo man like james bond
Starting point is 01:31:58 oh we're recording a podcast after this as well. Maybe. See if we can double down. Look at the extras. Not even trying over... What's his name? I struggle to believe that that deer has not managed to get that bra off its antlers all day. Although it didn't go home and its friends were like, Hey, I'll get that out for you. It's embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:32:20 I guess they could with their antlers. Yeah. I guess once you get something on a deer's antlers, it could very well be there to stay. With that shot of how the deer is coming for Taylor Miltner and where you go to a POV, it really looks like it's going to gore him in the face. Yeah. I always thought I wanted to shoot an option,
Starting point is 01:32:35 but we weren't actually allowed to do any of our own stunts by the end of the shoot. I want an option where the deer actually did, we were going to use a real deer, and where it did actually pin Taylor, his ribcage, and actually pin him to the ground. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:48 And just gore him completely. Now, the cross fade, the cross dissolve there, was an interesting decision by Jerry. Yeah. But the wrong one. Yeah. Demonstrably wrong.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Demonstrably wrong. Also, I always felt bad for Nick. He gave a really good performance in this scene. Actually, he was a real scene stealer, but we just could not get him in the edit. But you will see a little portion of his face coming up in from memory. Three, two, one.
Starting point is 01:33:15 He's already been in edge of frame a few times. Well, the director will be saying what we said was... Can we just get Nick in there to muddy it up? There we go. Muddy it up. Muddy up the shot. And there he did now for a long time we thought that this photo
Starting point is 01:33:28 was of Robert O from the Kmart store as a child but it turns out it's actually of Kevin James I don't really understand why because it's such a distinct character trait that someone else already has it's an incredibly confused gag that one we didn't write that, it was the other guy we actually used this, this was just a regular
Starting point is 01:33:44 crew lunch and we shot it we just rolled we actually used this this was just a regular crew lunch um and we shot up we just rolled on this so this was just a real conversation this was your life though you you fucking went out you got came with your buddies and then what came home and that's what you that's what you just walked into you didn't make any of it that is i got up in the middle of the night last night famished and i made a um a like a bean soup thing tomato based bean soup fuck it hit the spot I was debating for a very long time
Starting point is 01:34:13 hold that thought Tim whether or not I should go to McDonald's it's the middle of the night we should narrate the end of this really wanted a cheese food so Adam wanted to get one last product placement in shock for the final scene, and God bless him, so we put it in.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Rice chips. They gave us a bit of money, and we just completely forgot about them. Not even the supermarket used to see the rice chips brand, so we just put it in his hand. Because we thought that a good character trait for Lenny was he loves snacking. He wakes up snacking, he goes to sleep snacking. Always snacking. That, and we were legally obligated to include it.
Starting point is 01:34:42 And there's that too. So, I mean, again, this is... The gripping resolution. One of those moments where you really, you think we've head on to an emotional core, a tender moment, and then Adam keeps acting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:57 We didn't write the last bit in. He's got a... I wrote this ending. This is me, and I'm proud of it. And I'm proud of you. I'm not proud of you, but I respect you for the and i'm proud of it and i'm proud of you i'm not proud of you but i respect you uh for the ability to be proud of it because you respect my ability to be proud of it okay does that you understand what i'm getting at there don't you well i hope not to be honest because it's a bit of a diss adam sandler is talking to his unborn child which is in the womb right now
Starting point is 01:35:27 barely conceived ah we were riding high for a while during that commentary term and then there was some there were some dips too but what a journey it was oh look this has been just a fabulous experience um guy montgomery and what a journey it's been uh 40 watches of grown-ups too so heavy you could join and celebrate with us. It's always important to have a quick think back to before we even kicked off or episode one. So there we go with Adam continuing to... I figure we can do some stuff over the credits here. Yeah, we can just have a conversation.
Starting point is 01:35:58 So Live Every Moment's going to be blaring through my set. I'm opening with it. And there's an encore. Do you remember that? Episode one. We watched it for the first time and I suddenly became very worried. Very afraid.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Well, it was just a different... We didn't have any idea what the stickability of us was going to be back then. Yeah, that's true. I mean, it was was different it's just it's different every week it's different every week it's a different experience yeah isn't that incredible because it's the same movie what a crazy idea well if i could tell you through song yeah i'd say love every day yeah because you know it, your precious time slips away.
Starting point is 01:36:49 You've got it. Yeah. Live every moment. Love every day. Yeah. Because before you know it. Oh, shit. We got it wrong, but it's okay.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Time. Oh, shit. There's other words. I've only ever bothered to remember. So these are the credits. We didn't really put much thought into these. We just thought we'd go as vanilla as possible. Just fucking stitch the whole thing up.
Starting point is 01:37:11 Really? Put it on the assembly line. Do you know how much these titles cost us? No, how much did we pay for these titles? This is the Rice Chips sponsorship. Paid for this whole thing. This is $6 million to do the titles. Rice Chips paid for these?
Starting point is 01:37:23 Yeah. I mean, if you want to roughly divvy up where shit went the rice chips money went to the titles shout outs to everyone involved in the film i thought you were gonna attempt to do a readout but no you bailed on yourself norm crosby really bought the heat as a kmart employee he bought a little oven he was baking all morning he was a he was a real good guy to have on set. He really brought the energy up. Chris Murrell, who played Beefcake Kitty. Beefcake Kitty?
Starting point is 01:37:51 I don't know who Beefcake Kitty is. Fuck off. They're not naming. That can't be David Spade's love interest, can it? No, I thought it'd be the kid. Beanbag with arms and legs. Beefcake Kitty. Oh, Kitty and legs. Beefcake Kitty. Oh, Kitty.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Yeah. Beefcake Kitty. Come on, Beefcakes. It's got to be... She didn't get... Holy shit. Her name should have been higher in the credits. Beefcake Kitty.
Starting point is 01:38:17 So her name's Kitty. Apparently. Has that ever said? Hey, remember, didn't Tyler Spindle do a good job on that second unit? He had a really good spread of cheese. He some aged gouda which i love where to falling out yeah i know you fell out with mortis every single one of these people it must be torture for you to read the names no i made good with some of them though built bridges leslie brown now she was the costumer for mr sandler i gotta say leslie was really taking the piss with how easy that money was she literally did not show up on set once i'm pretty sure leslie frown is a trojan tax horse she might not be a real world
Starting point is 01:38:52 entity we don't know never met her but fuck a lot of money got funneled into whatever it is leslie good god um the production accountant big big shouts to Whitney, Troy and Alison When we say Whitney, Troy and Alison as well Those are the three we credited Thousands acting underneath So many names It was too difficult to decide who to put on the credits So we just drew the names from a hat in the end
Starting point is 01:39:16 And the three of them unfortunately sadly now Federal prison For the rest of their natural lives Adam Sandler had three assistants I don't remember that I remember two Federal prison for the rest of their natural lives. Adam Sandler had three assistants. Yeah. I don't remember that. I remember two. Always.
Starting point is 01:39:31 No, well, that's the beauty of it. The third one's never seen, but always around. And I think what happens is if something happens to the first two, the third guy just pops in there and becomes the visible one, and then a new person that you've never even heard of pops into that third invisible position as adam sandler's assistant listen to this wait oh can you hear this have you got yeah i got this music coming through where did we get this from was this an original composition because it's quite lovely i thought they just ripped it off garage band you get this in every movie this classic thing had like i remember this exact um style of
Starting point is 01:40:05 thing happening at this point in the credits and van wilder as well at the end and i used to always stick around for credits at the end of the movie because especially with comedy movies they'd have outtakes or they'd put like a little funny something at the very end yeah so i'd whenever i go to a comedy film when i was a teen i'd always stick around just curious what was the first movie that you like the earliest movie you know of that did something like at the end the only one that I can
Starting point is 01:40:27 certainly remember right now is Russia had some really funny oh yeah Chris Tucker was so funny on set I'm gonna
Starting point is 01:40:35 it's that time that guy goes out of a casino and lands on a car and Chris Tucker was like damn oh that was in Russia too he's like damn that guy ain't gonna be in Russia
Starting point is 01:40:44 that guy ain't gonna be be in Rush Hour 3. And I remember just crashing. Is that an outtake? Yeah, yeah. Oh, damn it. They should have left that in. That's just better enough. That's nice.
Starting point is 01:40:53 I like that. The earliest one I can remember, if I can take you back to the year 1987, a little John Hughes film called Ferris Bueller's Day Off. And at the very end, if you wait for all the credits on that, Matthew Broderick and the role of his life it was so sad that his best ever movie was right at the start of his career he comes back on and addresses the camera barrels it right down it's over the movie's finished go home it's real nice that's good get out of here well let us tell you
Starting point is 01:41:25 that there is no Easter egg at the end of Grown Ups 2 there is no promise of Grown Ups 3 although we have pretty good information that's going ahead which is great
Starting point is 01:41:33 could use the top up of the bank account I've I've I've had to spend a lot of money building a new house do you remember
Starting point is 01:41:41 when Columbia Pitchers tried to get their name taken off the picture I've got to reference Justin Bieber posted his provider courtesy of brito star wars jfk presidential bust i don't even remember where we put that and the smurfs oh so that star wars um minivan was cleared i always thought we were just hoping for the best on that good stuff this is number 4700 this is a work of fiction the characters incidents and locations
Starting point is 01:42:05 portrayed and the names herein are fictitious in any similarity to or identification with the location name, character or history of any person or product or entity
Starting point is 01:42:11 is entirely coincidental and unintentional just in case anyone thought that furthermore the American Humane Association would like to say that the American Humane Association
Starting point is 01:42:21 monitored the animal action and no animals were harmed in the making of this production. There's something to do with tobacco in there too. Sony, make believe. Make believe this isn't happening. Make believe
Starting point is 01:42:33 and maybe you can get out alive. This thing's really come off to a tail. A weak, thin, flimsy tail. I'm sorry. I would have loved to have ended on a bigger note but you know what
Starting point is 01:42:45 everyone else in the movie didn't fucking bother so why should we thank you very much for listening to the director's commentary we hope you've enjoyed it it was a wild ride
Starting point is 01:42:55 apologies if we've upset anyone I wouldn't imagine we have I really hope not we're not setting out to upset anyone we're just setting out to upset anyone we're just setting out to watch a movie
Starting point is 01:43:06 52 times that's right and every week we edge closer so goodbye from me goodbye from me and uh fairly well
Starting point is 01:43:13 see you on the internet feel that moment love every day cause before you know it your precious time slips away Live that moment

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