The Yeehaw Gaming Podcast - Episode 104 | The Yeehaw Gaming Podcast

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

The boys argue about Buddhism, Cobbler clocks into BF6 and reflects on old projects....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, so I'm talking about and writing about the Lost Paradise. That shit looks cool. The dreamland of like every, it's a Jungian thing once again. Like every fucking, and it's not something I got exclusively from him. From him, like fucking James Moody wrote about this. Every culture seems to have, like, it's not just a place necessarily after you die, although often it is discussed that way. But just like, you know, the place of plenty of milk and honey, fucking heaven.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Riving Irvana is really the most actionable plan I've ever found as Buddhist, where it's all mental and you just, you can never find and there will never, you can't, desire is the root of all suffering, all that shit. Like, you just need to free yourself from desire. But we're animals that need to eat, and I don't think the middle path works either. It's just life's a bitch, I think, is what it is said. And hear me out. Here we out.
Starting point is 00:00:56 As a white guy in America, I understand the appeal of Buddhism. But, like, I just, I just don't feel that way, you know? Like, I like, I like how it appeals to my, my sense of, like, moral ambiguity. Like, it appeals to that sense of me. But to any, to anything in my life I hold any true meaning for, it robs that meaning out of it. So it's like, it's all or nothing for Buddhism for me. And I'm like, I'm not giving up everything for it. Well, it's supposed to be the middle path.
Starting point is 00:01:27 That's all point is Siddharta, Gatama. He meditated under a Bodie tree for, I forget how long. And, you know, he fasted and he just meditated and he did nothing else. And then at the end, his enlightenment was, oh, you don't got to do that shit. The goal is not pure asceticism. You simply need to train yourself to abstain from desire. It's not living a life on a bed of nails with no food or water. That's not the secret to happiness.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I find the idea that desires the root of all suffering to be very compelling, but also it's, I couldn't have a YouTube channel that abides by the noble eightfold path, for example. It's being constantly unsettled. Desires the root of all suffering just doesn't consider every factor to, though. I mean, like, if we go outside and I stand in front of that yard for 10 hours, I will get cancer eventually. I didn't desire to stand out there. I had to stand out there. So once again, you jump into these extremes. That's not an extreme example.
Starting point is 00:02:26 That's a very basic example that all Americans, all. people, all of earthlings deal with, the idea of skin cancer, you know? And that's not a direct response to our desire to be in the sun unless we're in tanning. Like, it robs the randomness and chaos and entropy of the universe in place of human
Starting point is 00:02:42 thoughts and philosophy. And that my issue with that. Like, desire is the root of many, many terrors and horrific things, but I don't think it's the root of all of them. I think we both know that. I just can't help myself while I'm editing this. It's unimaginable to me
Starting point is 00:03:02 Boy, I did not press wolf on this stupid, stupid point This is the most absurd shit I've ever heard in my entire life You have every right to disagree with me in my perspective But yes, if you intentionally hurt yourself, you will be in pain But I don't understand what he's trying to say here Also the dunking on Buddhism as though it's this generic white boy bullshit Actually drives me insane This is something I've been into since I was like fucking
Starting point is 00:03:28 and whenever I bring it up, universally, the white boys be like, they act like this, frankly. So it actually is pissing me off. Next to my Seawolf, I'm going to slap him right in the fucking nuts. Don't worry. I'm now mad. This is going to be the worst podcast. Motherfucker. No, I think particularly since you also have a background in addiction,
Starting point is 00:03:58 or drinking in particular that you can relate to like, you know, they're I'm actually quoting the handsome family there's only so much wine or there's never enough wine to save you from the bottom of your glass I think that's pretty common
Starting point is 00:04:13 doesn't matter but uh... Is that Marlon Manson's family? What? You said the handsome family there's a manned. Oh, I thought you said you're quoting the Manson family and I was like, what is? What?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Why? The intellectual and gentleman Charles Manson It does So let's actually get back to what we were yelling at each other about The second you got here Before I could get the microphones set up
Starting point is 00:04:37 So I was talking about this union thing The fucking the constant Like this seemingly universal Desire that we all have For like paradise The Land of Milk and Honey Where everything is nice all the time And that it often seems to
Starting point is 00:04:51 exist in the past In like this collective mythos Like everyone, every myth has the, like this land in time. Yeah, Paradise Lost, exactly. You hear that a lot, yeah. And it being in the past is maybe something that I can't quite do it. But the basic idea of a place where everyone doesn't have to fight all the time and everything is nice. And no one has to want for anything.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I think it might just be a projection of, what are you pointing at? Oh, Ellie's call? I can talk to her later. A projection. Ellie, you called me during the podcast. How dare you? While I was intellectualizing. Motherfucker, where was I?
Starting point is 00:05:33 Ellie ruined the podcast. Just call her a bitcher for 15 minutes. No, no. It's intellectualizing the idea of paradise, especially of something in the past. No, no. What I'm trying to say here is that I think it's just a projection of our animal, our id shit. Just our animal, like we are just animals. And it's the same way that, uh,
Starting point is 00:05:53 A tiger can't really conceptualize a place where the prey doesn't run away. Like, it can't imagine that, but obviously we having a higher intellectual capacity, we can imagine that. But it's just that. It's... Hey, I'm sorry, I didn't interrupt yet again. We literally did make a world where the prey doesn't run away. Which we certainly had to imagine first. A projection of our basic animal drive to survive. So we all, you know, all these cultures and dependents.
Starting point is 00:06:23 will arrive than still at a place where no one wants for anything. And it once again is desire, like pining for something that is fundamentally impossible. And also this ties back into this other shit. That once again, coming to these, I talked to you about this before the podcast started, coming to these fucking notions that I think are correct. I'm not saying they're just because I come to a conclusion. It's objectively fucking right no matter what. But I come to these conclusions that I cannot,
Starting point is 00:06:51 I can't dissuade myself of so I tell myself just no I just can't believe that I just can't live with that truth if it's true but that hope but no hope once again just being a projection of our basic earths where our basic animal need to survive meets our human ability to like you know conceptualize all this stuff
Starting point is 00:07:15 and intellectualize all this stuff I think it's a great description of hope yeah no it's just that it's just like an animal that just won't let itself die despite... It's a dog with one leg dragging itself to the waterhole because it's thirsty. It's still going to die. And that's not hope what's happening.
Starting point is 00:07:32 It's just the animal that needs to... We've gone beyond that is what I'm trying to say. It's like we don't have hope, just hope anymore. Hope is the saving grace of an animal. We created something better. We have something called faith. Faith is what we need in place of hope in this circumstance, right? Like, faith is the ideal of believing...
Starting point is 00:07:51 in something that doesn't really have tangible existence, right? Faith is the idea of believing in something that could occur. It's the idea of believing in the things that aren't going to happen and all that or potentially could happen and all that. Hope is grounded in reality. Faith is not. So like it seems like, I don't know, in search of faith seems to be what you're really going for right now.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I don't know, because clearly hope is not the thing pulling you out of this corner. But hope isn't beautiful is what I'm trying to say. It's just sad. Is it? I think so. I think it's beautiful. I think it's beautiful. It's just a dog dragging itself to the waterhole so it can drink.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And it looks another day. Because it has nothing to do with the dog's willpower. Or I guess you could say it's will. But like that will is just to survive so it can procreate and spread its genetics. Like it's, there's nothing beautiful about that, I don't think. I completely disagree. That's beautiful down to the cellular level, man. I mean, it's a creature that, whether it's because it's,
Starting point is 00:08:51 It doesn't have the ability to, whether it's because the circumstances it was in, or whether it will never be able to do it. It just can't deviate from that. It has to go and drink that water. It has to go and try to survive. And as someone has been around lots of older dogs, same with you, you know. Eventually, they do give up. They do give up. All animals eventually give up.
Starting point is 00:09:09 They have their own versions of it, whether it's trained or whether it's because they're physically don't have enough energy to go on. All animals give up. Like, it's a crazy notion to assume that they all have this idea of animalistic hope, right? Like, they all have to eventually because we run off of energy. Are you saying giving up is the same as dying? No, giving up is just they physically cannot move on because they have no more, like, mental capacity, they have no more calories, they have no more energy to move forward.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Creatures just stop moving at one point. Like, a dog will stop moving. Yeah, eventually their legs hurt too much and you got to go put them down. Yeah, but they still live. They're still alive during all of that, you know? What's going on in a dog's thought during that when they're like under the trailer, you know? Well, yeah, I mean, eventually losing hope doesn't mean that hope doesn't exist. That's not what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:09:58 What I'm saying is, like, I just, I struggle. I just don't see what's beautiful about it. It's just basic. Maybe don't look for the beauty. No, beauty is all I got, because once again, I was born alone and I got nothing. So it's just all I've ever had, that's why these things are of such importance to me. It's because, like, I don't really got other shit. Like when your family is fucked
Starting point is 00:10:24 And when you're just sort of kicked out of the collective tribe Really all you got is like the art I don't want to say philosophy Because I don't really read philosophy But you know It's all you It's the The day is really fucking long
Starting point is 00:10:41 And tedious And all I got is the sunrise and the sunset You know what I'm saying? Just these little things And it's I don't really see what's beautiful about a cell I don't know I live for beauty
Starting point is 00:10:55 because that's really all I got and I can't tell you what is and isn't beautiful I mean I like a system an understood system where you can kind of like see what causes this to happen
Starting point is 00:11:08 in a closed net I mean that's what I like that's why I think a cell is beautiful in that sense but yeah that's that's I don't know I don't know it's just that like
Starting point is 00:11:18 I like to break it down to this weird biologically ideology right just because like the second we introduce any form of uh fulfillment or uh emotional capacity and all that becomes so much harder you know it's harder to discuss well that's what i'm saying is life is it's a constant struggle the the dragging the dog dragging itself to the water hole like i i'm not going to propagate my genes and i don't want to at this point and it's lacking it's wild to me how much many people can live solely in their id.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Like, maybe I'm just not seeing their rich inner world. Are you reading Sigmund Freud now? Why are you talking about it and super ego? What are you talking about? Jung was a student of his, and he wrote a lot. His thing was... Man in search of meaning, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Well, it's certainly you need one. But it's a... I don't know. I don't think life will ever deliver to me. enough like desires the root of all suffering
Starting point is 00:12:26 but what I desire is always just fucking meaning and you know whenever I completely give up the search for that which I eventually do like that's what's got me concerned about my sobriety is that because it's like I'm just oh I'm back here to this place where I can't find it anywhere
Starting point is 00:12:43 I don't know and I try to find it in work and sometimes there's a bit of it I definitely like before you got here when you got here I was like I'm cooking because I was really cooking. I finally got the outline, I think, for the essay about what? I'm just looking to the left and I just see
Starting point is 00:12:58 a big old document opening a black border canvas and it says women feminism one PDF. I was like, oh, having a good day. No, no. Well, actually, that's I was thinking about that in history class. We're doing the history of women's lib and I just fucking
Starting point is 00:13:14 it's funny how lib just sounds like a dirty word. I'm so fucking internet brain. Lib. Yeah, it does sound like that. fucking all these libs out here fucking talking about women having the right to vote it's sickening what's that shit you call it uh oh my god but it's just funny the collective human experience all it's like james baldwin he had a little quote about that if i'm not lazy when editing this i'll come back and i'm basically making myself by virtue of saying this now i'm i'm pissed when i'm editing this like all this motherfucker now i'm gonna have to go back so that i can
Starting point is 00:13:42 say i'm not lazy here's the quote you pitch you think your pain and your heartbreak are unprecedented in the history of the world, but then you read. It was books that taught me that the things that tormented me most were the very things that connected me with all the people who were alive, who had ever been alive. But it's funny that like the second, and I'll feel that with like a hatchy, I'll feel that with Aztecs. I'll read like a Aztec poem that one, all the earth is a grave and nothing escapes it, which the, which the essay will continually come back to, like how we all, all these different people and all these different times all having the same struggle. Once again, that search for meaning, you know, just coping with mortality and impermanence
Starting point is 00:14:26 and struggle and like, what is this struggle in service to? And I find that beautiful. But then a woman will open her mouth and I'm just like, shut the fuck up. It's awful. It's not right. It's not I cannot. What are they saying? Well, a different version of similar struggles. A lot of their struggle, comes back to, because so much of my childhood was like the sexual abuse and the minimizing of it, which is very much a woman's struggle.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And yet, their perspective specifically, except for Maya Angel who was an angel, who we didn't deserve, I don't know what it is. What I'm saying is that I'm biased against women. It's not reasonable. It's not fair. But I just am. I don't think I'll ever shake it.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Because they were the ones that did most The, the, not most. Goodlark, to clarify, you were personally affected by a very select few terrible women. Yes. Just you. No, it's not, um, and it's also not fair to put on half the population, um, it's not fair to blame half the population for a select few BPD hoes that God saw fit to throw at me from the moment of my birth. Those tacky's eating bitches, you know. they'd be eating hot chips and lions
Starting point is 00:15:48 and making my life an unrelenting horror and that's not their fault and it's just it's an impulse that I definitely need to I wrote about this in the script for part two of the Apache stuff but I'm definitely going to, it's too long of a tangent I'll have to remove it, it's about this Apache warrior woman Losen and it's essentially me saying a historian should be open about their biases and I'm biased against women.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I want them to talk less. It's not fair. You should research Francis Perkins. Who's that? Francis Perkins is the woman who kind of influenced the beginnings and our current understanding of the Department of Labor and Bureau of Labor and all that, which actually had meaning a hundred years ago.
Starting point is 00:16:33 But like, you know, the institution of the 40-hour work week, basic rights that you and I have as workers. And things like that, contributing society and all that. You know, Francis Birkin is an interesting leader in female history. I don't know why I'm thinking about it right now. It's just reading something, and she came up recently. I don't know. Probably because the government's dismantling every single fucking thing
Starting point is 00:16:58 that we've tried to use to protect workers in the past. Let's do a tangent change. Something that you and I, I think, both have pretty strong opinions about. And we've had arguments over in the past, right? Let's talk about populism for a brief. moment. Who's your, who's your, I want you to think about all the historical figures you've noted in the past. He's going to open his mouth and he's going to say some Alexander Hamilton shit to me. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't like Broadway. Anyway, but like,
Starting point is 00:17:28 what I'm saying is out of all the figures that you've seen in the past, who has had the greatest distance between what they have said and what they have done? And your opinion? That's what populists are. They say one thing, they do another, and they fuck over the populace that they were trying to help. Hey, the answer I should have done here is absolutely Hernan Cortez, just literally just not describing situations as they actually occurred. But, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I want to talk shit about stoicism, I guess. Well, he was a Roman emperor. That's a great example. Well, it was Marcus Aurelius. I just have a very low opinion of Marcus Aurelius. Why? Oh, because it's like, oh, wow, you get to be stoic, you're fucking emperor. Also, it's like the
Starting point is 00:18:15 This thing that I come back to It's the usual source of empathy for me Because sometimes you really got to look for it It's that, you know And it's not exactly a high-minded idea It's a pretty universal one It's just hard to keep in mind of course You know that everyone's got their struggles
Starting point is 00:18:32 And you can't see them, right? Like if I were to let's say I'm in class And I say something shitty about women It's not to say that it's justified by the reality but it makes my perspective more understandable if they knew my particular history but obviously any woman hearing this big guy with mustache and domestic violence eyes
Starting point is 00:18:53 and a lead paint stare you know saying something shitty about women it would just be this you know the typical chauvinist pig thing which isn't too far from the truth I don't know. There's...
Starting point is 00:19:10 Even rich boys with daddy money got some struggles, you know? But yeah, it's just like... What is the other big stoic thinker? Am I really... Oh, I cannot blank for his name right now. So it's... Oh, Epictetus.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Well, no. Which is funny because it's basically just Western equivalent to Buddhism. It's like, hey, you can't fix your situation. You've got to fix your mindset. But Epicetus. He was a former slave. and obviously I find that
Starting point is 00:19:40 I'm sort of Christian to say this but I just find it inherently more powerful for a former slave to say you need to adjust your mindset because you can't you don't have control over your situation brother you don't understand you need to adjust your mindset
Starting point is 00:19:54 it's true it's the way you say I can see the beret up here I was going to say this is sort of manosphere-ish I don't know I was going to say Nation of Islamish but
Starting point is 00:20:06 people don't know what that is anymore by the way nation well they if they would if they read the fire next time god but uh what was his name again epidymis epictetus i might be mispronouncing it but i always fuck up the greek names did he write like a famous script that got saved or something like that because like i'll i love max miller and like tasting history and all those other channels that do that table of the gods and everything
Starting point is 00:20:34 and every now and then they'll mention like an old manuscript or an old script or something like that and that name sounds really familiar did he write anything at all that got saved no yeah i mean i've read it a million years ago it's like the epistles of epic tetas or whatever but you know yeah he was you bitch the discourses of epic status he was a teacher and his lectures were recorded you know but i don't know if he wrote anything or if it was just in that capacity that he said things and they were written down but he definitely didn't write a recipe okay hey i mean even marcus aurelius had a few recipes written down that's all i'm saying they were shit but he had them for real yeah yeah i think max miller did an episode on it but for
Starting point is 00:21:21 the most part it was basically just like hey you know the normal things we as greeks eat around here that bad oh i see so it's okay none of these lavish persian ingredients like saffron Or coriander, I guess. I don't know. I don't know if coriander was popular in, like, the Mediterranean at that point yet. I don't really know about that. But, yeah. But, yeah, what about populism?
Starting point is 00:21:49 What does this have to do with? I was curious because, like, I... Every time my girlfriend's becoming radicalized slowly as time goes on, because she's not actually radicalized. She's just getting really into politics and what. whatnot in these days. Well, I remember she had a very low opinion, speaking of the nation of Islam of Malpahs. Okay. I don't think she knows who that is at all, other than that she probably heard something negative at one point in the past. I started to realize that as well.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Well, I mean, the nation of Islam wasn't exactly known for women's lib. They, they were with me on this one. We had similar opinions on the origins of the white race and women's place. Are those like the ones who were into yikoub and shit? Yeah, no, it all came from there. I would honestly say that's the longest, the most pertinent thing to, like, modern discourse. The Nation of Islam's contribution was the Yucube, the myth of Yucube. That's their greatest achievement. I mean, the rest of that shit fizzled out. Do you hear a lot of black people talking about the need to create a independent black nation?
Starting point is 00:22:55 Not as much as I used to, you know, how did I mention it? I don't know, ever since the boondocks. I'd probably close my window for me about crazy shit. Yeah, that's how Liberia was founded, right? Uh, yeah, by, uh, Monroe and all that. Monrovia and all that. I keep getting all these weird history shorts pushed to me. I think it's just because every now and then you'll talk about a concept, I'll Google it,
Starting point is 00:23:19 and then I'll get, like, a bunch of, like, Reditors saying, like, hey, come, let's learn about this thing, you know? And the difference is that they're not like you. You're a little bit more bitter. And, like, I am cursed to bear this knowledge with you. But with these other guys, they're like, hey, let's learn. about this cool thing let's talk about lock jams you know oh it's like the did you watch that like short i sent you the air generated one of me yeah i hated that so much oh my god it's so funny
Starting point is 00:23:44 you know it's like it was my face and my voice but it's just the the tone and demeanor was hey i'm a contributor for buzzfeed let's figure out how cool the apache were and i'm like the apache weren't cool let's talk about the horrors let's talk about scalping each other for pennies what um Did you post that? No. I put it on my Discord shit. Okay, good, good. Because, like, someone needs to see that, but not everyone needs to.
Starting point is 00:24:09 It was just so weird looking. Made your eyes black? Oh, God, I don't know. Yeah, my eyes would bug out in the particular, yeah, like a Redditor BuzzFeedy. BuzzFeed is such a dated reference, but you know what I'm trying to say. I mean, you're not getting it. I'm not plugged in at all. I can pretend to be plugged in.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I'm not. I don't know. Populism Populism I want to yell about that Because essentially Whatever I hear a critique of You need to take
Starting point is 00:24:40 Every individual as an individual As I'm always saying And it's Just because someone is There's Yeah you could just be a hollow A hollow populist And just say
Starting point is 00:24:54 They Like I don't know That's all of them by the way There's literally not a single populist movement at least that I can think about. I would love to hear some arguments both from you and in the comments. There's not a single populist movement to date
Starting point is 00:25:08 that has not resulted in a form of corruption quickly thereafter. Maybe Nepal's different. Maybe Nepal is different right now. So what? You should just openly be like, well I'm for them. Yeah, honestly, if you have a better alternative, I'd love to hear it, but every time we reinvent government, we just recreate authoritarianism. That seems to be the issue, right? It's like, okay, so we're going to do representative governments. We've all seen
Starting point is 00:25:28 You say this as though, like, the Enlightenment, like, didn't have a populist streak. Like, yeah, no, the French Revolution sort of went some bad places. Do you name another one that way? Lots of heads rolling. But, I mean, yeah, frankly, the French Revolution is probably the place to go, even if we, you know, end up with Napoleon. It's still, the rhetoric is not something that should be cast off. I, you know, just because occasionally you'll get a Napoleon out of it. Though it's not occasionally, it's almost always, there's a form of a Napoleon, there's a Perdon, there's a Peron, there's a Peron, there's a, what is it, there's a Mussolini, there's a ping, there's always going to be another variation because a populist movement results from a majority of people being fucking annoyed or the ruling class being really annoyed, right?
Starting point is 00:26:19 It's one of those two things, usually the latter, and it's just, populism sounds really good. No, no, the reason I even brought this up is because, like, my girlfriend was saying, like, she bought some short or something about, um, Mao or some shit like that or something about Taiwan, and she asked me about it. And it's like, it's just a bunch of people who are just trying to get people to wave to their banners and they all die in the end. What about it? And she was like, well, they're like, you know, they're for workers' rights and communism and all that. And it's like, well, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, complicated and all that. Realistically, it's, the philosophy doesn't tie it together and all that. And I basically just tried to summarize it by saying that, like, I can't really find a populist movement that has ended positively with lasting change as a result of that movement.
Starting point is 00:27:03 You know, like the reaction to that movement and the results from that reaction, such as Napoleon and the things that came because of that after Napoleon that echoed throughout the world, like all these decisions that came because of his failures and because of his successes. I'm not trying to change the world. I'm just saying that it's probably worse for the majority of people like war. It works for the majority of people. This is what I'm talking about, the hope thing, that there is a... It's not that I disagree with you, it's a truth that I can't live with,
Starting point is 00:27:33 that it is just going to be this forever. Some pigs being more equal than others. What is the point of anything if there is no path towards a future that's more just, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Maybe it really is just, be a Buddhist and a stoic about it just learn to live with whatever reality may come to arise I don't know the future wolf is Buddhist libertarianism Buddhist libertarian is the future That's wolf Honestly the older I get
Starting point is 00:28:08 And I guess this is the inevitable life path right It's just all right life liberty and property The government can get the fuck out of everything else Everything else is tyranny And I guess it's partially that I actually My income tax is no longer taken directly out of my paychecks and now I have to really count the cost and I have to see the Israel bill at the end of the year
Starting point is 00:28:25 and it's cruel and I'm finally finally about fucking done paying off that Israel bill. Yeah, everyone's a libertarian when they pay taxes, man. Yeah, no. Well, it's, I guess, when I have to... It doesn't matter. But you see that, along with Buddhism, along with
Starting point is 00:28:40 being able to live without being a slave to your own desires, I'm just going to live under a tree. and tell the government to fuck off. That's what I'm saying here, Wolf. That's the goal. That's a happy life.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I like that. Well, I need a grand narrative that I can live with, but I don't think there is one. No, I need a story. I need a story for it all to fit perfectly. No, genuinely, yeah, but there isn't one. And it's just that we're all constantly yearning for this place. That isn't a constant. Fucking, I'm only, this weekend I'm finally just going to kill the whole book.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I'm not doing Apache Part 2. I'm going to, but I'm not doing it this fucking month. Because I need to square this circle. I have too much inner turmoil, and that's the place where it just all bubbles to the surface. So I need to check out of it and finish Man in his dreams. Put your energy in the right place. Not the interpretation of dreams, that is Freud.
Starting point is 00:29:47 But he was talking about. talking about that that uh and i was scared he was going to this was written in like what the 60s the 70s like mid 20th century in the middle of the cold war young okay um he lived after Freud or he was younger than Freud they they lived during a you know what I'm saying got it but he talked about like uh that very desire for you know what we call this desire to build the utopia is like that's not new it's this universal human yearning that's found expression that did find expression in like myth and then and religion and then now and like just political science but every single approach has just led to the same place uh the few dominating
Starting point is 00:30:39 the many seea's yearning for something i don't know what at the moment But he specifically called out communists is trying to build this utopia in it, not working out, and then I was like, oh, I thought this motherfucker wasn't going to be, I don't know, I was hoping, as I was reading, I was like, I assumed he was above the politics, but then he, you know, immediately called out. Like, it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:31:12 That's the thing, it's like, a government that protects just, what I understand is that a government that protects just, just life, liberty, and property. That is also just a path to just completely different horrors. And once again, you know, what was the featured Wikipedia article that I directed you to yesterday? Oh, yeah. It was the English, like, what is the word? It was the creation of the pharmacy act, I think.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Like, what led to it? It was, yeah, the poisoning of sweets, um, adulterating, like, little caramel sweets or whatever the fuck with... Gypsin powder. It wasn't cyanide. It was something else. But yeah, all sorts of shit. Just like, you know, cutting flat. The same way that a truck dealer will cut cocaine with flour.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Yeah. In England, in the 19th century, they would cut flour with chalk and shit. Like gems and dust and bones and shit. But yeah, you can't just protect life, liberty, and property. Well, I guess it's, is it an extension of protecting life, liberty, and property, to also protect from adulterants, adulterating, you know, food. Which I, then you got to make this FDA. which will get all up in everyone's best
Starting point is 00:32:19 and stop me from putting cyanide and carol's. What's wrong with bones in my jello? I like the chelot. Jellow is bones. Partilage, whatever. But the... God, you know, it'd be somebody...
Starting point is 00:32:36 Now I sound like my government professor who I fucking hate. Okay, because you'll just ask these, like... We've been recording for 32 minutes. Here's the issue. I realize the issue. Now, I understand where all of our problems are coming from. you and me we're soy cucks
Starting point is 00:32:50 we're soy cucks we give a shit there's things that we love I love animals you love people as much as you hate them you love them more than you acknowledge like it's we're we're soy cucks we just need to become conservative political pundits that's what we need to do rob ourselves of the emotion
Starting point is 00:33:06 put an iron rod behind my eyes so I don't feel anything we need to free ourselves from this worldly desire to eat bread without chalking it yeah this earthly desire it's just It's too much. It's too much, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:18 In the kingdom of heaven, all bread will have chalk. And bones. Oh. I don't know. I just, I feel like, what's like it's so serious, man? Let's say, let's not be so serious this fucking time. There's no gaming in this yeha. Although, frankly, I've not been enjoying my battlefield gameplay very much.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Have you played the new map they put out? I love it. I hate it. I love it so much. Oh, my God. A is a skull fuck. Okay, yeah. I can never take A.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I never go that far. I have not. of all the maps I've played there's almost always at least one map where the good team will just wipe everyone out in the game's over in ten minutes like they claim every objective in like Blackwell fields like the oil one the oil
Starting point is 00:33:58 one I love it so much because there's this open oil plain field on one side and then like fucking Afghanistan on the other it's just mountains and rocks and gilly suits like I love it there's like a perfect little line in between there's a vehicle river in the middle that you can like decide to go
Starting point is 00:34:14 down I mean I'm having a ton of fun I feel like I'm going to downtown Fallujah every time I'm playing that game. I'm having a great time. What do you not like about it? No, it's that. We got through to B once, but I always end up on the attacking team. I've yet to defend, and the attacking team just never takes A because I'm on it. I haven't played breakthrough yet. I just realized if I play Conquest.
Starting point is 00:34:35 That's probably the distinction. I've only played breakthrough. And you really love that. No, I probably would like Conquest. You know what? I'll try that, actually. You love that shit. It's throwing yourself in the meat grinder. you like that shit don't you scluter it's the shit that I fucking hang that's my entire problem with
Starting point is 00:34:51 Battlefield it's a I've talked about this before I don't know oh yeah another gaming thing I've been trying to get into Minecraft
Starting point is 00:34:58 recently because like yeah I know a guy in his late 20s just like to get into Minecraft whoop did fucking do
Starting point is 00:35:05 but Minecraft is heaven wolf it is the union image of heaven that all of man since the dawn of time is collectively yearned for
Starting point is 00:35:12 don't you get it that is the archetype it is the place you you want a house you simply punch a tree for 30 seconds and you got it there's just enough struggle and such ample rewards for such such such small struggle caro young's a man in search of minecraft no that's that fucking oh i need to get that book back there's a little asterisk beside that's well that that book is very different man search for meaning my god i couldn't read any that shit i there was a point when i tried to get into like social stuff and writing and essays and all that. But I just found the words never could flow, you know, no matter how I tried.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Just couldn't get them to work, you know? I felt like there was always a sense of like, what am I writing this down for, you know? Like, even if I shared this with someone or even if I share it with myself. It's so that incogny you can put an adult. That's what it's for. Oh, but it's, excuse me. With rocket money, monetize my trauma. will it monetize my search
Starting point is 00:36:16 oh god Jesus man but no like man man search for meaning is brutal and that's the once again the hope thing because he just kept going you couldn't stop him Victor Frankel
Starting point is 00:36:30 you put me in a death camp I'd lay down start blowing bubbles I'm done no I'm fucking you put me here in this modern vexing world we're in And already I'm like, what, I have to go and buy food, to eat breakfast? What's the point?
Starting point is 00:36:49 I'm sorry, just like you go to death camp. I'm picturing, like, Schindler's list. You're, like, biting until your thumb bleeds and you put blush on your side. So you're walking around the Venezuelan death camp. Just trying to impress some of the guards that you could survive another day. This is the exact opposite, Wolf. I got no warrior spirit. No nothing.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Mm. I don't know. It's that dynamic of the barbarian and the village, right? I'm fundamentally uninterested in blazing a warpath. As a vow. No, I'm not interested in the warpath in collecting a harem of horses and a herd of women. The way it should be done. No, I'm interested in that.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I simply want to exist in the village. Well, I know that the village cannot exist because of the barbarian and he's a-coming. And someone's got to be supplying the harem. So it's just, I guess I just end up in a village. a harrow. He's going to be an air. He's got a saucy traw him.
Starting point is 00:37:49 He's reinvented the golden horn. Oh yeah, that reminds me. Oh, yeah. While we're talking about step barbarians and shit, the new AOE 4 DLC dislaunched, man,
Starting point is 00:37:58 and it's been a ton of fun. I've only played one of the new SIVs, but it's great, man. I fucking hate AOE. I try playing, and I don't like it. It's so, it's great. It's great. I understand not liking it.
Starting point is 00:38:10 I've been like, I didn't know there was this community people who liked this game I liked when I was a little kid right so like realizing that there's a new game people are playing it they're still doing DLCs for two isn't that crazy that game came out in like
Starting point is 00:38:23 2004 they're still doing DLCs for it that's not crazy they're remaking HALCE again no one has any fucking ideas yeah but like it's crazy because they're not making DLCs for Halo they're not making more content for Halo they're making the content quote unquote better they are they're just
Starting point is 00:38:40 reiterating upon what's already been done for decades as opposed to making something new, yeah. Yeah, but in the context of two versus three versus one, and AOE, you know, the difference is massive. Like, you know, as I never said AOE 3 at any point, and we're going to keep it that way. So, like...
Starting point is 00:38:57 Well, that's always the problem with these long-running franchises is, like, the idea of what they... Well, it's... It's not the problem. It's like the fan base comes to expect something. Like, there's now a big controversy about the... Have I told you about the new Halo thing that's happened? Well, I let my essay languish and die.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Tell me about it. What's that? Well, it's, so they added Sprint to CE. Yeah. So that's just how you start. So now Halo fans are blazing the warpath to Microsoft's offices in Seattle, Redmond. They're loading the siege weapon. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Phil Spencer has been drawn and quartered. But, yeah, no, it's because, like, you know, on one hand, I get it. Because, like, it really isn't a necessary inclusion, and it is there just to make it more palatable for the zoomers. But whenever I told Halo fans, let Halo die, they got upset. But, like, if you don't let Halo die, this is the reality of what it's going to be. It's going to be the attempting to make it palatable to zoomers, who simply will not play it because you can't play as Batman. Yeah, so you get to pick and choose what you get mad at.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Do you get bad at the fact that I'm putting sprint in it, or the fact that they're not re-updating the game that you like to get? We just need more spiritual successors. I don't know, I just... I want to say I don't... He talks about this, like his struggle with IP. and all that about how like no one can make anything fucking original
Starting point is 00:40:16 it can all want to be iterations or alterations of things that already existed like splitgate well even when you try to iterate or well like splitgate is like a good example of a spiritual successor you can take something like Halo and you I don't know fucking add a portal to it
Starting point is 00:40:30 and see what happens I guess yeah it was a little fun but I think I stopped playing it after like one day just because like I was just having much more fun playing the finals I felt like it offered more and I enjoyed it a lot more honestly in terms of shooters i mean like besides battlefield which i consider dependent uh independent of like other shooters um because i can't find anything else like it um yeah i'd say finals is honestly
Starting point is 00:40:55 my s tier that's my top right now i am most engaged having the most fun the dopamine is rushing i am injecting that shit straight into my spinal cord when i play the finals battlefield's actually a good example and i you know certainly you can call it trend chasing and i'm sure it was trend chasing and that's why the directive came down from EA. But for Battlefield 2042, including operators or whatever, so they could sell them. Specialist skit.
Starting point is 00:41:17 So, like, obviously, that was not done in good faith, and that was not done to improve the game. But, like, Battlefield needs to have squads. That's just, it's a basic part of the battlefield identity, it needs it. That's hero-based, hero-based. Yeah, okay, yeah, when they did heroes in 2042, everyone fucking hated it. And 2042 is a game that completely changed
Starting point is 00:41:38 every six months until now. I'm sorry. Thank you. I can't. Paranoit, I get that. But yeah, it's a game that completely changed. It's UI, it's UX, all of it. Completely changed every six months because it was just so unfucking popular.
Starting point is 00:41:53 And by the very end of that game, it's last year or last six months of life, it turned into what we now know as a specialist style. It still has the quote unquote heroes, because that's just how the game is made, but they separated it into specialist systems. What we're playing right now in six is specialist. The engineer is the engineer,
Starting point is 00:42:08 shit, the recon and all that. I don't like Hero-based shit because I don't like Siege. I didn't like Siege 10 years ago. I didn't like it five years ago. I don't like it now. That's what it felt like to me. It just felt like a Siege clone, but with the chaos of Battlefield, and they tried to do this with Hardline.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Hardline was actually fun, massively unpopular, but not popular, but not popular at all. I had a ton of fun playing it. So, like, why are we going back to Hero? A Hardline is an example of, like, trying to do something in good faith. I think. Because certainly it's not like that was a trend they were chasing the cops and robbers shit. They were trying to do something new.
Starting point is 00:42:44 But you see Battlefield on the box and it's like this has to meet certain criteria and that criteria is restrictive and, you know, strangles creative expression. I love it. Because it took concepts we can't do. We don't need a Battlefield 6
Starting point is 00:42:59 and it's fun and I'm enjoying it. What do you mean? Why not? We don't need anything. We don't need sugar. You know, but I like the things that taste sweet. that's not comparable that's equivalent to my
Starting point is 00:43:13 I said we don't need shooters that that's I'm it's just once you have so Battlefield 6 is this return
Starting point is 00:43:21 to form right and it bothers me that they apparently got that part of the rhetoric around its release was like we got the guy
Starting point is 00:43:29 that did Titanfall and that like made call of duty he made he took Call of Duty from this old crusty
Starting point is 00:43:36 World War II shooter to the modern warfare thing that made up a phenomenon. And it's like, why are you taking this guy that apparently is known for reinventing franchises and sticking him on the return to form with no imagination? That might be fun, but it has no imagination. That was their differentiation. Returning to form was how they differentiated themselves from other, like, games at the time. It seems like a lot of franchises are just caught in this perpetual loop of, like,
Starting point is 00:43:59 the return to form, and then they try to iterate on it, and everyone freaks the fuck out. And it's, I'm not criticizing fans or creators. it's the very it's that we're just sort of stuck in IP and it I well I've told you about this before about my ideas around like that that weird period where we all exist in right and I love it because like I recognize that I don't I want to be able to play the game with lots of people as long as I can as often as I can like I still dream I have dreams about battlefield one and four I still remember like rounds within that game and matches right and uh Oh, God, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I'm sorry. I just completely lost my temperature. I just thought I would not imagine actually dreaming about a video game. I mean, that will happen if I'm like. It's just emotionally compelling because, like, oh, yeah, now I remember now. It's because I know it's temporary, and I know that, like, all of the ghoulish forces that exist in the world will eventually ruin this thing that I love, and this fruit will eventually rot. And I'm understanding that. So I'm going to enjoy every single little piece while I got it.
Starting point is 00:45:04 I'm going to remember one. I'm going to remember the char. I'm going to remember fucking, oh my God, what is it called? That one time I got 40 kills running around Montagrappa with a fucking mace as a heavy. Like, I'm going to remember the memories of the good times I had on my own and with my friends in that period because that's the true value of this game to me. It's nothing to do with any physical thing or any code or anything like that. It's just the feelings I got with my friends when I was playing that game at the time.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And I'm getting that feeling again playing six, a feeling I never had playing 2042. Yeah, see, to me, playing Battlefield 6 is just, it's just being stuck in a skinner box, so I just don't see this immaterial joy that you're perceiving. It's just the thing that I clock into because I'm running myself ragged on work, and I'm trying to relax, so I put myself in a box where treats come out, because it feels good, it scratches my brain. Yeah. But, uh...
Starting point is 00:46:01 I mean, like, let it scratch your brain for a little bit. I don't know, I'm not criticizing the impermanence of, uh, media or anything like that. I'm not trying to get into that. It's, I'm a, you know what I am criticizing fans. I'm tired of them. That's okay. I like making fun of fans. No, it's just, I'm just tired of the constant fucking discourse. Like the Halo Sprint thing. I just, like, go fucking play the old one. Like, I just, who cares, you know?
Starting point is 00:46:27 What's wrong with even putting it in? I don't understand. Oh, well, the idea is that, so apparently Bungee would continually experiment with adding Sprint to Halo, but they found that it didn't add anything to the combat loop and it just distracted from it. I mean, me personally, like, obviously my favorite game is Doom Eternal and that doesn't have Sprint. Like, I don't think it's necessary for an FPS to have Sprint to be fun or whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:46 And also, it's like you, whether or not you have Sprint, like, that doesn't make it... Like, I very much see the argument for making Halo faster because playing the original Halos, it's just sort of slow. And like, you're moving through molasses. But Sprint has nothing to do with it being faster.
Starting point is 00:47:03 You know, like, I would consider or the original Doom faster than playing a match of Battlefield because a lot of playing Battlefield is waiting and positioning, whereas Doom, it's just constant. Like, the position that the game is trying to get you to be in is constantly moving, you know? It's not trying to get you to sit in one place and set up. Essentially, the argument I'm making is that it's an argument that doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:47:29 because you can just go play those originals whenever you want. I guess it's just, there seems to be this perspective among, that Halo fans that Halo can return to its, I made a whole essay about that, that Halo can return to its former popularity if only Microsoft would just make Halo 3 again, which is just so fucking annoying and dumb. I just thought to hear anything about Halo 3 again, man. Yeah, once again, just go play Halo. Halo 3 exists now and no one is playing it.
Starting point is 00:47:55 And if you are playing it, then have fun. I don't see why it has to be this phenomenon again. It's not going to be. You know, whatever, you know, it's not even, it's not even, it's not even, it's. Is Fortnite even the big fucking thing now? I don't even know. Oh, dude, I have no fucking idea. Friday Night Funkin.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I think for children, it's Roblox and Fortnite. I think for adults, it's the same as it's been for 10 years. It's Siege, Battlefield, and Call of Duty. Right now saying that all that is necessary for, it's the equivalent of like a man that's in his 50s saying, you know, the only, if Marvel wants to start making money again, all they got to do is get Arnold Schwar. Schwarzenegger to fight an alien in a jungle.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Like, that's the only sure method of success. I mean, all Battlefield had to do was return to form. Like, Predator fucking rules, but not everything should be predator. Predator is a, from a moment in time, of its time. And that's part of what makes it special. Art is... That was the idea for Battlefield, right? And that's why they kept innovating, quote, unquote,
Starting point is 00:48:54 and differentiating, differentiation just means to make different and unique. Like, like, just doing that over and over and over again, you know. And realistically, just returning to form is what we all wanted. We wanted it since five. Five was like six years ago, man. I just don't see the point of six battles. I guess I am advocating for live service stuff. Just, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:12 keep updating Battlefield 6 forever. That's really all that's necessary. But then I guess the player count does dwindle. Yeah, like I understand that like some people attribute product and service to be the same thing, right? But I'm a fan of a good product. Like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:28 I fucking hate EA. Yeah, who doesn't hate EA? I hate them for, as a business major, I hate them. As an individual, As a consumer, I have several reasons to not like EA. I'm still going to play Battlefield. I'm still going to play it. You know, I still love that shit. It still has the memories.
Starting point is 00:49:42 I still remember going to my friend's house in 2012. I remember hanging out with my friends in 2016 playing one. Like, the value of that will never leave me, you know, until EA decides to suck that value out of me through a myriad of other things, making another Battlefield 5. I would just drop this series for another 10 years if they make another Battlefield 5. Sometimes I wonder if the companies are learning their lessons. Microsoft doesn't have to learn lessons because they're military contractors,
Starting point is 00:50:10 so the money will just keep flowing and then continue to use that money to ruin everything. But, I mean, I don't know. I got to figure, yeah, they will make a Battlefield 6 and a 7 and an 8, and they will all be exactly like Battlefield. I guess it's sort of like selling the disease so you can sell the cure later. Because the problem is how can they sell Battlefield 7 if it, too, is a return to form? you must first deviate from the form and then Battlefield 8 will be
Starting point is 00:50:37 Battlefield's back This is called New Coke This is the New Coke strategy Yeah I think it Well it's what the fuck else are you gonna do Because when I think about Battlefields I remember the Whenever it was unveiled
Starting point is 00:50:46 And it is neat The little animation that plays Whenever you can revive And I think that is a mechanical inclusion You couldn't Could you revive Could every class Every specialist
Starting point is 00:50:57 Revive squad members They all could Okay But just the little dragging away animation It's very slick and cool. It's fun to pull off. Well, here's like, I have an opinion.
Starting point is 00:51:07 But it's like that's the one new thing as far as I can tell. That's not new at all. So it isn't new at all, even the dragging away? No. Oh, okay. So nothing new at all? So Bethesda does this and Dice does this as well. They will take old games that are currently like kind of dying, kind of figuring it out,
Starting point is 00:51:23 but the devoted fan base, the people who have opinions are still playing it. So they'll test things and kind of listen through QA of it, right? And in 2042, they did like, I have no fucking idea why they did this. They did a collaboration with Mass Effect in 2025. I have no fucking idea why they did that. I didn't give you like an emblem or some shit. But anyway, underneath all of this weird event that they were doing,
Starting point is 00:51:48 they were doing a lot of testing of new things they were going to do for the next game. They wanted to see like, okay, we think it's a good idea to do a new version of the revived mechanic. We're going to keep doing it where you can like hold it to like save yourself or maybe we want them to crawl around. so they did a few weeks of like, okay, we'll let them crawl around, like in war zone. I don't know if you played war zone, but you get to crawl around for a little bit, and they'll shoot you,
Starting point is 00:52:11 and then you're down for good. You know, like they give you a second to crawl away to get to your teammates and they can come to you. They did that in 2042, and it was cool. It kind of added to the chaos of it, you know? Missile goes down, people are like, ah, on fire and shit, and you're dragging them away from the helicopter.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Super cool. But apparently it just wasn't, it was ruining the gameplay loop, the combat loop somehow by doing this, because Battlefield's a game where if you, if you change how quickly you can revive someone or this or this or that, you know, it completely alters the game state. It completely alters the way the game is played, right?
Starting point is 00:52:42 Because if you can heal people faster, there's more medics. There's more medics. That means there's more types of guns with medics and like an ecosystem, right? I just, I just, they do this thing where they'll just test stuff before the new game by including it at the very end of a game's lifecycle. And they did this with Fallout 4. They did this with Fallout 4. And no one fucking remembers, but I remember, I remember, Robert.
Starting point is 00:53:05 I remember whenever it was Fallout 4. They decided to introduce these new mechanics for building in your settlement and all that. And I always thought, like, from the very beginning and forward, like, man, this settlement shit's broken. It doesn't feel like it's complete. There's so much shit. Even in the game files, they're shit missing. So it's like, what is with this? And I'm, like, I'm big into modding.
Starting point is 00:53:24 So, like, I'm watching these videos talk about it. I'm listening to Juice Head and shit. And I'm just reading Nexus. And people came to the same conclusion. I did. Or maybe I came to the conclusion because of them. This is just testing for a new game that would become Fallout 76, and lo and behold, 76 had all the features that we were talking about in listing in these Nexus forums, right? And it's like, yeah, this was just a QA test for Fallout 4 to make a new game. That's what they did with Dice as well, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:51 just a tiny example with the revived mechanic, but they did this for tons of other things. And that's an okay way to use a game that is shit at the end of its life cycle. Use it to test things you want for your new game but don't do it from the very beginning well i feel like you're neglecting the broader story unfolding there like fallout four introduced that settlement mechanic and then 76 made it a more core part of the the loop and added the multiplayer component and all that and then starfield continued to add to that but now it's like now you do it on other planets it's the same feature being brought across multiple franchises and genres uh and being built upon and iterated upon.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Do you like it? Well, no, that's sort of the thing. It's coming back to like that stagnation or iteration thing, and it's like I'm criticizing fans for being unimaginative and unwilling to accept new things. But at the same time, this is very much the case. If they add that shit to Elder Scroll 6, I'm not going to buy it, and I'm not going to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:54:46 I'm here to tell you, you will. You probably will. No. I don't fucking play video games anymore. It's like you telling me that I'm going to buy Windows 11 no matter what. They offered me an extension. you can keep clicking no I think it's one more year of security updates
Starting point is 00:55:01 but he's gonna keep doing it here's gonna fall back on Windows 7 apparently a lot of people fell back on Windows 7 well no you can't fall back I don't know if there's like some community I wouldn't trust any of that shit I will switch to Linux or I will switch to Mac I'm not going to do it
Starting point is 00:55:14 I'm not going to get Windows 11 because I'm so fucking tired of Microsoft regardless Beat Ubuntu guy Oh man isn't it a boon to I don't remember man I don't know, but that's, yeah, that's Linux.
Starting point is 00:55:29 I don't know. I've used Linux before. It was fine. But, uh, I don't know if they have a DaVinci resolve for that. It doesn't matter. But the point is, it's like, I, it seems pretty clear that that is what Bethesda wants to make. And there is a fan base for that, absolutely. Like, there's an entire, like, this is also a thing that I, I sort of wanted to talk about in a video once, but I didn't quite, I didn't know where to go with it.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Is like, a franchise like Fallout in particular is a good example. you have multiple generations of fans and Fallout has meant such different things to so many different people now Great description Yeah no I mean those And it's like you You simply cannot please
Starting point is 00:56:09 The people that got into fall out Because of the original ones The isometric RPG Go play Wasteland And the three Go play Wasteland! Wasteland 2 It's good, it's a good game No yeah no that's a good spiritual successor
Starting point is 00:56:19 I don't want a fucking remaster of one or two Like I'm gonna get a remaster of one or two Before I get a new New Vegas I don't think they would bother without completely change it. I could see them remastering it quote unquote by making it like Fallout 3 style. You're about to get the 10th year anniversary of 4. It's about to come out.
Starting point is 00:56:35 I don't know if you know about that. Are they doing a thing? Yeah. The anniversary edition? I'm guessing it's like Skyrim anniversary edition. Yeah, yeah. It's bittersweet. I like it for one reason. Only one reason I can see this is being positive. Two, one, I don't have to buy all the extra shit. All the DLCs are included, right?
Starting point is 00:56:50 The other reason I'm okay with this is, again, modding community. it means I have to have two separate mod files and two separate games right I have one that's much like Skyrim back in the day you had Skyrim your base version that has 40 50,000 60,000 mods for it and then you have Skyrim SE which has like 20,000 mods but it's so much easier to mod apparently because like you don't have to say have this downloaded have this downloaded and do it in this order you can just um you can just use Skyrim C-E or S-E and you can also use this new Fallout version whatever A-E it'll be a
Starting point is 00:57:23 F-O-4-A-E. That'll be the name of it. That'll be what the new mods are made out of. They'll just construct it from this particular set of data, and it's easier to make mods. It's easier to manage mods that way, too. So I'm down to see how that will turn out, but I haven't had a computer capable of running a game in two years.
Starting point is 00:57:43 But I am curious. I'm not sure if I'm going to bother messing with it. I mean, Fallout 4 is just sort of... Because it's when they started to orient the game route, game loop I'm sorry I've been watching Scooby-Doo
Starting point is 00:57:57 tried to learn his language this is a reference to a conversation that the podcast listeners have no idea it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:58:04 I'm trying to learn Spanish and whatever the the gameplay loop reorienting the gameplay loop around the settlement
Starting point is 00:58:11 shit which I'm just fundamentally not interested in it's Bethesda is not interested in
Starting point is 00:58:16 it seems and I making money well I I'm not sure if i mean fallout four sold really well and i don't you remember the hype before four remember the countdown timer do you remember that
Starting point is 00:58:34 oh that went nowhere yeah yeah yeah do you remember me obsessing over it for like a year yeah i remember also like being with you on that even if i was a little less so just because i'm more of an elder scrolls guy but yeah no i also was excited for it and you know i remember people thought there was going to be a tv show at that point um thank god there wasn't but uh probably would have looked. I don't know if you've gone back to Game of Thrones, but it probably looked like the quality of Game of Thrones. Like, I have this theory, right, about fantasy series that the greater the distance between when it was originally created when you're watching
Starting point is 00:59:07 it, eventually it all kind of looks like legend, the movie. So it looks like, it looks cheap, like a bunch of guys in Renfair outfits in a cheap setting. I can't even do a joke. I'm so fucking tired. I just woke up when it's 4 a.m. All right, guys. Here's the fucking, here's another one. This is, in the time between, I went to Big Bend so that I would have some nice footage for the background. It's just odd, you know, I can't, I can't find a fucking basic job selling a product, but I can find, like, selling a shitty ideology to shitty people. I can do that.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I actually want to talk about Charlie Kirk for a second. I would love to, yeah. I get that a lot of people liked him, but it's fucking absurd the way some will talk about him, he was a preacher or a pastor he went to college campuses he got college students pissed off and he would clip them
Starting point is 01:00:05 and you know I get it it was effective it doesn't quite fall under trolling marketing he knew the internet game and he played it well and like that's just my perspective
Starting point is 01:00:15 on the guy and that New Life Church particularly earlier this semester they'd come on campus during lunch and Monday, and I'd always sit there and I'd listen to them. Yeah. It was always ridiculous. I'd listen to them for as long
Starting point is 01:00:29 as I could stand. And it wasn't just them, it was also the people that would come and talk to them. It was just awful bad arguments from all involved. And I'm not even remarking upon the church itself. Like, I just, it's, they clearly were taking a page from his playbook, because they were filming the whole thing
Starting point is 01:00:47 and they were looking for pissed off liberal, like, you know, fucking, they wanted to post schooling the lib the lib compilations on YouTube so it's like I I just sat there like don't bite this is the part where like I want to be a mature
Starting point is 01:01:05 smart socially and apt person I want to be the right thing but I just desperately want to go up to these people just go like and just walk away God man once a year this used to happen every year once a year every six months there was a guy
Starting point is 01:01:21 who had come by connected to some weird church somewhere some Baptist church who would have a giant like it looked like a 40k banner like a giant Roman banner with a bunch of like random philosophies on it and all that like what is it like I don't know keep women out of sports and shit like and he would just with a megaphone because it's a free speech place that's the plaza is for right yeah he would like with a megaphone just kind of yell at people and try to get them to he was doing the Charlie Kirk thing before he died and he did the sense of since I first showed up in 2016 and um he's been doing it ever since i might have died by now but um yeah no it's just uh these
Starting point is 01:01:58 these crazy outlandish zealots you know like they they really they bear no attention man there's no reason to really pay attention to them but i do like watching the debates because i like to cheer on one of the other based on who's winning because sometimes i just love a little conflict but like i just want to like just because it's fun it's fun watching this happen right we're watching two people it's only because I just hear, I could make a better argument for both sides, and I understand I'm not on the spot. That's what I love about it. But it's just absurd. One of them was...
Starting point is 01:02:30 Be a mediator for one of these. It's really funny. Yeah. I'll be the guy holding the camera. That's my side hustle. Good. Oh, that's what Charlie should be doing. I got to ask if he's okay with us saying his name in this.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Tell me people so they don't get beat the shit. By that that. No, it's just, um, making, destroying the libtard compilations. Oh god, he would never do anything like that No, of course, he won't even like I never suggested Like obviously it's He couldn't just like get a job at channel 5 or whatever
Starting point is 01:03:03 But like that It's interesting to me whenever he talks about what he wants to do And it's huge preference for legacy media And it's like I don't know He's like young and fired up You'd think he would want to work at something edgier The equivalent of a vice You know obviously not vice anymore
Starting point is 01:03:19 But like or a channel 5 But instead he's like, I want to go work for the, oh, God, what was the yellow journalism guy? Patty Hurst. Yeah, one of the Hearst companies. Yeah, William Randolph Hearst. Like, and he, I don't know, it just, I get wanting something more respectable, but I feel like, I don't know, I've got to imagine a journalist with on something edgy and weird. It's not just pedigree, you know, it's not just where he's going. It's also the fact that, like, Charlie's very old school, you know, like, he, he, he,
Starting point is 01:03:50 he believes in the idea of journalism, he believes in the pillars, he believes in true unbiased, you know. He's the kind of guy who will say, like, sadly, that he can't have an opinion about some things and vocally broadcast that thing because that would separate him from his, he's both academic and professional integrity. Yeah, like, I make fun of him saying like he's like a middle of the road walker who can't make a decision, right? I got so many fucking comments. Yeah. Yeah, but why don't you take a side? in the century's old blood feud. It's like,
Starting point is 01:04:22 take a fucking sand stance. I know journalists and historians that are unbiased and they're fucking cowards, woof, every single one of them. That's the thing about it though, is that like he looks at Channel 5
Starting point is 01:04:35 and he recognizes the bias. He looks at Hearst, he recognizes the biased, but I'm looking at his bank account and I'm looking at the bias. That's what I'm seeing. So like, I wish I'm luck in whatever he does.
Starting point is 01:04:45 You know, I do think when he should... He should spread the word of God with Turning Point USA. Famous religious organization Turning Point USA. Why are we listening to these weak, skinny, ass, fucking nerdy people who debate college kids, man?
Starting point is 01:04:58 Why are we listening to these fucking people, never working a hard day in their live, walking around, talking to people and canvassing, barely doing anything good for this world? Well, it's not like they pretend to be salt of the earth types. I mean... I don't know about that. I've had a few of that pretend.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Like, I had a guy come up to me... If you wear a Carhart jacket, you're basically blue collar. That's just the way it works. Yeah. I'm a YouTuber. However, I do go by the pickled porkskins at H.E.B. The second it opens at 5 a.m., so...
Starting point is 01:05:27 That's fucking... Am I not a Mexican daylaborer, in spirit at least? You buy PDLI and store it in my truck. You are a day laborer. Oh, I do do that, you do that, you know. That's for my mid-run refreshments, because it's... Man, it genuinely... It sounds so stupid, because obviously,
Starting point is 01:05:43 hydrating halfway through a run will make you feel better. But it's phenomenal. It's like night and day. No, it's like you just started the run all over again Because at a certain point you catch your breath as you're running And Were you checking to... Oh, I thought he was checking to make sure the stove was off
Starting point is 01:06:01 It's all I remember the first time I tried God, this is not a... I'm not even going to name the product But like I tried some salt Like a salt product in the middle of my workout For the first time And I was like, this tastes like death
Starting point is 01:06:14 But it feels like I I had eight hours of sleep Like in the middle of this work I was like oh my god Is this what it's like This is what all those idiots are repping I like this I like this now I want this god
Starting point is 01:06:25 I used to buy one It was like snake juice or some shit This was stupid name It's a real snake And it actually just tasted like straight up salt Yeah I mean like The same guy was talking about Charlie
Starting point is 01:06:38 He about two years ago Got really into weird health stuff And he would quote to me The what was that guy's name Huberman Oh Andrew something Yeah that name a movieman podcast or whatever, and he would quote shit like that to me.
Starting point is 01:06:51 I'd be like, you've been to the gym one day this week. You're drinking, like, what is it, like salt packets every other day and telling me about the health benefits and like algae and shit like that. It's like, dude, just go to planet, go to crunch. I butt chug one gallon of raw milk every day for my gut microbiome. Isn't that just like scathing? That sounds like scathing, but with extra steps. What's scathing?
Starting point is 01:07:17 Skiffing is where you force your victim to drink honey and milk and then tie them to a boat and float them on the river and their body rots from the inside out as bugs eat them apart. Jesus. No, it's actually, well, yes, it's traditional masculinity is what it is, Wolf. Okay. God, you can really tell. I'm even talking slowly. I'm so fucking beat. But the thing is, we have to do another podcast before I released the last podcast.
Starting point is 01:07:42 So they're getting two episodes for the price of one. And the reason for that is I said the word union So many fucking times in listening to it I wanted to punch myself I finished that book finally Man is symbols And half of it went over my head So I shouldn't be saying the word union so fucking much
Starting point is 01:07:59 You could study it for years, you know No you certainly could But I don't know I mean it's mostly just the idea of a collective unconscious Which fascinates me Like this isn't even This doesn't fit into This isn't an archetype or anything
Starting point is 01:08:14 It's just, I'm always fascinated by, like, humans, not talking evolved physically, but like culturally developed on different planets, you know. Like, I've found no indication of any contact between Mesoamericans and Indian civilizations. And so, and you've also got obviously, I don't want to say Polynesians, because obviously they did reach the Americas. And I, man, that, have I talked to you about that at all? A little bit about Easter Island. Yeah, you described it in detail. Yeah, well, Easter Island's most fascinating one. And the Birdman.
Starting point is 01:08:49 The Birdman cult. That's, oh, yeah, talk about a... You would think, because, like, birds are like this... When I think birds, I don't think, like, masculine, barbarian archetype, right? Like, warlords or God kings or anything. But there's, like, a lot of Birdman... That was in Cahokia. There was the Birdman...
Starting point is 01:09:11 Cahocchio was a... Cahokia was pre-Columbia, Native American city in the Mississippi. I've talked to you about that, St. Louis. Buried with the harem, right? Yeah, yeah. Well, they had, like, twin god kings. It's a weird fucking deal, Cahokia. I highly recommend Cahokia by Timothy Pockitat, I think it was.
Starting point is 01:09:34 But, yeah, and there was also a Birdman cult on Easter Island, and these two certainly didn't have any contact whatsoever. and that was like after there was like environmental degradation on Easter Island and the the voyaging sphere I think is the term broke down like the winds stopped being favorable for like an interconnected Polynesia and they became all more isolated that's when the the birdman cult arose and they uh it was a lithocracy wolf it was whoever was the best athlete got to be king for a year I ran the fastest around the island Well, it was you would have to jump off a cliff
Starting point is 01:10:12 And swim to this little Not even an island, an islet Just like a rock Covered in bird shit These one species of birds They would lay their They'd lay their eggs there every year And you'd take one of the eggs
Starting point is 01:10:26 And you'd strap it to your fucking forehead And you'd swim back Over, this is Easter Island So it's open ocean And then you'd climb up a cliff And if you had still had the egg Then you got to be bird man And it would be nice if like that
Starting point is 01:10:40 was whoever was literally the most physically fit got to be king. Okay, I kind of like it a little bit. But unfortunately, like, the equivalent of wealthy figures is just you can't avoid them. They would call the shots. These elitists. Like, I don't even know what is an elitist on a, by that time, like, poverty-stricken feels like such a modern term, but you know what I'm saying? Just a lack of things.
Starting point is 01:11:07 I have the most potatoes, and that's really it. I got so many fucking sweet potatoes. And I sponsored this young man. But then he would go, like the, before that, like, naturally they had, like, this traditional Polynesian theocracy, essentially, whereas, like, the Uriki Mao was king, and he, uh, and he had his own harem, and he had manna, which was, like, the, the spirit of the ancestors, and he had magic and all this shit. But the birdman cult, like, once they arose, they just, like, burned down the Uriki
Starting point is 01:11:39 Mous house. and just number one revolutions aren't exclusive to like post-industrial societies or not even that just revolutions
Starting point is 01:11:50 are it's just so human people get annoyed at leaders everywhere yeah the second the times are bad the Eureki Mao lost the mandate of heaven
Starting point is 01:11:58 and he was suplanted but oh my God I'm sorry I've been learning a lot about Chinese history and that's fucking got me Mandate of Heaven's a fun concept. Oh my God, we should go sell
Starting point is 01:12:14 opium to Chinese people. Or do the Polynesians. We could do that, too. You can sell opium to just about anyone. There's a book I read many years ago. I'd like for you to read it as well. I might have already given it to you and it concerns the Polynesian people.
Starting point is 01:12:28 I know that's a broad term. I don't really understand it. It was about a group of people who were like this, I guess tribe on this set of islands and it talked about it was like from the perspective of three generations and one was like a child um adult and died but it was about the japanese coming to this island taking it over you know setting up a camp and everything kind of leaving him alone but not really
Starting point is 01:12:55 but kind of leaving him alone and then they fucked off and left the americans came left him alone sort of kind of not really been fucked off and then a nuke dropped because this is the story of the island surrounding like bikini atoll and all that and it's just taken from the perspective of these indigenous people, and I'm sure it's pure fantasy, but I think you would like that book. If anyone here can remember the name of that book, I don't know what it's called. Well, Cargo Colts are interesting, but I've never read a book specifically about it. But yeah, no, they, I know famously, like, one of them built an effigy of a plane, and I'm not sure if these guys were Polynesian, although the Polynesians were essentially
Starting point is 01:13:28 just Pacific Islanders and Polynesians are one and the same. They just, so this is a topic of contention, because there's this thing where, like, If you were victims of colonization, it is then politically advantageous. I'm not saying it's like necessarily a lie, but it's just it's politically advantageous to say, we have been here for 10,000 years, even if that is just not the case. Like the Apache are a good example. Obviously the Aztec never even had a chance to pull this card. It's like a cultural social defense almost.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Well, yeah. In a political context, of course. But it, like, if you're doing a land acknowledgement, it's silly if you're doing a land acknowledgement for people that only got there in 1,400 or whatever, because then it's like they didn't do land acknowledgments, you know, that's the typical genocide apologist argument. It's one thing to beat people, and it's another to try to completely remove, change their way of life and, you know, all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:37 but uh no all this indian like like Hawaii I'm going to put in the exact year here but like Hawaii wasn't humans didn't find Hawaii until like a hundred years before Europeans got there really oh yeah no it's all the
Starting point is 01:14:54 Pacific Islands because they are so fucking remote it's incredible that there were people there at all when Europeans got there the Falklands they were completely unpopulated but I think it's because the seas in that area are so fucking rough.
Starting point is 01:15:09 And also because, like, it's, I don't know. Remind me again, the Falklands, is that in the Pacific? I don't know why I'm getting confused with somewhere else. That's like Southern, South America, right? The Falklands are, yeah, no, it's, it's off the coast, yeah, no, right off the coast of Argentina and Antarctica. Okay, yeah. Right now, it's just like 30 Englishmen and some sheep.
Starting point is 01:15:29 But, yeah, no, it's one of those, that's like, you remember the, well, you wouldn't remember, but the Falklands War? I saw a video about it, but tell me about it. Well, it's, you know, the British claimed it, and there is a British population there. And unlike a lot of British colonization, there is, there's no one there to really fuck with that claim. You don't got to do a land acknowledgement. No one fucking lived there. And so, like, they're particularly justified when Argentina attempted to annex the Falklands.
Starting point is 01:15:57 You know, it's like there's just no, you know, they didn't massacre any indigenous people there to take it. I'm just picturing, like, some bushy eyebrows in the mid. the 80s. This was like Thatcher's era too, wasn't it? This was Thatcher, yeah. Apparently it gave her a big, how do you put it? Boost in popularity.
Starting point is 01:16:19 The Iron Woman Wolf. There were so many weird tiny wars in South America in the 80s. Like, oh, was that one in America did? Oh my God, it was like a week long. It was somewhere in the crew. Grenada? Granada.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Yeah, that's what it was. I don't know. I just, I don't understand the history. of political philosophy that well, but I can understand want and need pretty well, and I am, I struggle to understand why it's necessary to hold on to these places like that. Like I understand from a 1980s, we barely have a grip on what the world's going to look like right now. Technology is changing at an advanced rate. People and cultures are changing at an advance rate, you know, we need to maintain supply lines, Suez Canal, and all that, right?
Starting point is 01:17:05 I just, where the fuck Granada? Why the fuck Granada, man? Dominoes. The whole, the whole, I'm assuming,
Starting point is 01:17:15 and I'll look it up to make sure, but I'm assuming there was a communist regime and America said, no, sir. Yeah, you're probably right. And also,
Starting point is 01:17:20 because they were like, well, it'll be easy. And we were still upset about Vietnam. We're still upset about Vietnam. Yeah, sometimes I just want it,
Starting point is 01:17:28 I want it to be a little, I want more depth to it. And sometimes it's just that simple. Yeah, no. I mean, like, reading about a lot of this stuff it does just come down to appetites
Starting point is 01:17:38 and that's what I'm always yelling about but I mean like Americans protecting their assets in foreign countries and invading that country and causing regime changes I expect that. It's interesting to say I don't know if there were assets and not I don't know shit about there bananas there? Huh?
Starting point is 01:17:53 Are there bananas there? Because it's fucking ours if there are. That's all I'm saying. I don't know, I don't know. God I'm exhausted shit maybe I shouldn't have asked you to come over actually. No, it's okay. Let's take a break for a second, man.
Starting point is 01:18:07 It's pause it. Check. Okay, so we were just talking about Mad Magazine. I read it nonstop growing up, and I had several books of Mad Magazine. I still have one. It's mad for decades. And I submitted my photo for the Alfredy Newman Lookalike contest many times, easily a dozen times.
Starting point is 01:18:34 and I was never selected even though I did look like Alfredine Newman and I'm still frank a little upset about it I think there was nepotism at play I'm like looking at you and I'm seeing your face kind of morph into him a little bit I'm seeing like turns out of my feelings are hurt
Starting point is 01:18:48 my face did look like Alfredine Newman yeah I did yeah I love bastions man but I don't know I guess maybe the first no even the nose like it's not I don't know I should have gotten it my hair was perfect for that because I always just had a big head of red hair so do your hair's gotten like darker as time's gone on too you know yeah it sort of makes me sad although I definitely wanted
Starting point is 01:19:14 when I was a kid it was like orange man whenever um speaking about mad whenever I was younger there was a store called Hastings and if anyone remembers Hastings um you know the sadness but uh I got a mad magazine there one time many years ago and like like Lake Jackson Texas if I remember correctly and I just remember it was all about mad I'm not mad it was all about madman the whole like magazine was about madman and I had never seen madman you had at the time and told me about it but it's just like every other frame of it like they're doing like the bit in the cartoon and everything there's just another cigarette or a dozen cigarettes added into every orifice in their body like from one one cell to the next cell there's like 15 cigarettes
Starting point is 01:19:58 in their mouth and ears like that's not bad honestly that I um I like satire. I love satire magazines, man. It's just, the onion's coming back, but I don't know. I just feel like satire is something that feels harder and harder to enjoy. As time goes by, because, you know, I'm getting older, feeling serious. Like, everything matters when it really doesn't, you know? Well, I mean, I would just say that Mad Magazine was, I mean, there's a reason I read it from the time when I was, like, I don't know, 10 to 14.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Like, that's just sort of the target demo. Like, I did actually recently take the mad for decades off the shelf and flip through it. It is an interesting, like, cultural relic, because there's, like, their parody of jaws and shit like that. But it's just not funny at all for the most part. By the way, we passed, I was on Netflix with my girlfriend last night, we glazed over jaws, right? And she's like, oh, sharks! Let's watch Shark movie!
Starting point is 01:20:58 I was like, what movie? And it's like, Shark. And she didn't realize the title is right there. The title says Jaws. And she thinks the movie is called Shark. And I like, after a while, like I take it off the screen. I was like, hey, what's that movie called? Shark.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Has she seen it? No. No, I'm dating a Golden Retriever, man. God, dude. She's pretty a weird, man. I don't know. Like, she's the kind of person who would point out bad practical effects in a movie, which probably.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Yeah, yeah, see that grimace you just made? Yeah, well, that would be tedious watching Jaws with her for that reason, I guess. Yeah, I'm not gonna do that, God. Also, uh... I feel like even bad practical effects. Unless it's, like, actively taking you out, now it's just, like, charming, if anything.
Starting point is 01:21:48 I don't know, it doesn't upset me. Bless you. Like, uh, I don't know. I think probably the only example that really bothers me is the one in Terminator. But even that, it's like that movie is so fucking 80s. now. You remember when it's like Arnold is doing his self-repair thing?
Starting point is 01:22:05 You just see a big, like, animatronic Disneyland. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah, that's it. He's just, oh, God, I remember the blueness and the ghoulishness of the skin as he's, like, tearing it off and everything. I remember that specifically. Well, it's just interesting because, like, it'll go from, like, half decent, like, I don't know. Like, at one point you see his arm and he, like, presses his scalpel into it, and the blood goes out. It looks pretty cool, and, like, um, it.
Starting point is 01:22:30 I don't know. I don't know how that's supposed to look, but, you know, you can't prove that I do. I'm under investigation for some things, Wolf. What kinds of things? Don't worry about that. I feel like you should. I'm at this desk, too. You know, it takes me out of movies. Like, I'll hear a woman scream, and I'm like, that's not the way they sound, when they really know the end is coming at them. The angel of death is descending upon them, like a hawk unto a mouse.
Starting point is 01:22:57 you know what's funny is that like you're edgy as fuck man you got to get into 40K get into 40K man just do it I like to think I'm smart though buy a thousand dollars worth of mini figs man it's like 10 of them just just buy them man why what the fuck go spend a bunch of money on something I don't want
Starting point is 01:23:18 and I'm sorry to say toys if people like it like good for them whatever but I I don't like it. Get into the grim darkness of the future, you know? Get into that. Why not? He's always trying to get me to enjoy these things. Anime and 40K, and I hate all of them. I wouldn't say I hate 40K. I watch that secret level, extra level. That was fun. But also, it's like, you know, I don't know who any of these guys are and I don't care about them.
Starting point is 01:23:46 You don't really need to. That's kind of the thing I love about 40K is that, like, I don't play the game. I've only read a couple of the 500 books. Well, what do I like about history, Wolf? the fact that it happened I don't know what do you like about history I don't fucking know the people the way people are shaped by it
Starting point is 01:24:04 you tell me stories you tell me stories and then I see your soul in turmoil I don't know what you like about it I have no idea well maybe like isn't even the right word fascinate maybe fixate even but the
Starting point is 01:24:18 it's all happening to people you know people are being shaped and like people are they're finding themselves caught in these grand machines and they don't understand how big they are. They don't even understand really their own story when they write it down and that's partially what the intro to the second Apache video is going to be about is that Herman Lehman guy I'm always talking about. Yeah. I finally getting that out my system. But it's, I like the individual. I like
Starting point is 01:24:44 primary sources. I like, yeah, the individual. I don't like grand histories. Like, and then this empire destroyed this empire in the battle of this like and that's never really what's clicked with me so i i don't want to read a fucking historical it also might be my age like i i feel sillier and sillier learning about fictional worlds yeah when i could just be learning about the real one and it's not to say like i i read lord of the rings for the first time this past summer and i fucking loved it yeah so it's not like i'm above fantasy or science fiction or anything but uh like that was a wonderful story about individuals themselves in the grand machine
Starting point is 01:25:28 and trying to figure it out. What's a famous Warhammer character? The Emperor, Titus, if you're into the games. Oh my God, Commander Yarek. My God, I can't remember the name of... He's the leader of the War of the Beast. I can't remember him right now. Let's see, there's Malcador.
Starting point is 01:25:55 there's honestly i could just start naming primarks but that's just like like it's not the what makes a series fun for me is not learning everything about it i find that just tedious and unfun um what i like about it is that uh real world history seems a bit to i don't know for lack of word boring it doesn't real history and this is always my problem with videos it doesn't abide by traditional story structure well it doesn't abide by the hero like it herman And Laman didn't have a hero's journey, right? He was a little boy, and he got taken by the Apache, and then a bunch of horrible shit happened to him, and then he got returned. Like, you know, it's...
Starting point is 01:26:34 So it doesn't scratch that part of our brains that likes stories, but, you know, I'm not trying to, like, say it's silly to enjoy fictional worlds or whatever, but... Oh, I totally think it is, but honestly... You tell me to fucking watch this shit. Yeah, it's all being silly, you know? Like, technically, it's silly to make YouTube videos instead of being a professor, but realistic. I think you're better at making YouTube videos than being some dried up professor in some loser town somewhere else. You're talking about the things that are valuable to you and other people. You're not commanded by a structure that's higher than there. There is no hierarchy
Starting point is 01:27:07 for you other than making sure you don't get banned. That is your hierarchy. So like in that way, you know, it's relative. It's relative the silliness of it all, you know? Like this whole pedigree college collegiate bullshit and all that, you know, it's up to the individual. Oh, I thought of a possible future path because it's like at this point like YouTube it just has a shelf life I don't know how long I'll be able to do it I love doing it but it's just the way it works
Starting point is 01:27:33 and I was like what the fuck I don't know if I talked about this on the podcast or if I didn't release that one like books by the sea or some shit like a bookstore where I measure skulls like have a bunch of artifacts or whatever which is just not realistic at all
Starting point is 01:27:50 sounds nice but it's just not really feasible I think working at a national park would honestly be a pretty good job. I was just the one this weekend, man. One you could do with a history degree. I'm a veteran. I'm a veteran. Yeah, I think that would be a good one. You could afford to do that.
Starting point is 01:28:07 You have like the GI stuff and all that. They don't get paid for shit. They do it because they love it. Yeah, no. That's exactly the thing is I think I would love it. Oh yeah, do that, man. That's one of my retirement jobs being in Park Ranger. Because all that shit's second nature to me.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Just like being in parks and all. that being a Boy Scout. Well, I'm still determining how much I like it. It is really nice. The tent that I have is there's no, like it's like a mesh ceiling on it. So like you're still under the stars and it's really nice. Man, the moon was so fucking bright.
Starting point is 01:28:41 It was bizarre how you could see everything crystal clear. It was like I considered putting the roof of the tent on because it was so fucking bright. I don't know. But it's, man, there's something about it. It feels sort of mystical. Spooky, but the right amount of spooky. Just being in the middle of fucking nowhere.
Starting point is 01:29:01 But yeah, no, history degree. Veteran. I won't have a bunch of debt. Yeah, I don't know. That's kind of, that sounds really ideal. This is the kind of things most people get in their 50s. Setting yourself up to do that even earlier is not a bad idea, honestly. You say that, like, retirement plan,
Starting point is 01:29:20 that sounds like a hard job to do if you, You're an old man. I mean, kind of. I mean, like, you might have to move some heavy things, but everyone, eventually, their body's become weak and can't work, and everyone does that. Well, not me, though. I'm built different.
Starting point is 01:29:32 Like, the hardest thing you have to do is like... You want to see how many triceps I can do? I'm now doing three sets of 10. When I first got to 280-something fucking pounds, I was like, what if I can never do that many ever again? And I did three sets of eight to start on push day. I do three sets of 10 now. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Yeah. Yeah. Fuck, yeah. So what I'm saying is that time isn't real. People just give up and they're weak and I'm not like that. I'm simply unstoppable. I convince myself of that when I'm in the gym. I drank a Celsius and what was that powder?
Starting point is 01:30:07 Jack 3D jacked. Apparently there was an ingredient in the original formula that was made illegal or some shit. Oh no, I haven't taken pre-work out in forever, man. But yeah, I know that, oh, C4 is a good one. Makes you feel like your skin is burning. Beta alidine. I love beta aline. I used to take that stuff just on its own.
Starting point is 01:30:25 No caffeine. I just love the skin crawl. I want to feel like there's spiders in my flesh, you know? Like, it's a good feeling. I just like that. I remember the first time it happened to me. I thought I was having a heart attack, though. I almost went to go see a doctor.
Starting point is 01:30:38 No, honestly, my reaction was like, this is fucking phenomenal. I wasn't healthy. It's probably not good. I'm going to guess you weren't healthy at the time either whenever you were taking C4. Because I wasn't. And I was like, oh, hey, hey, is everything okay if I feel this way? Yeah, C4. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:30:54 Okay, never mind. I was doing all right. It's, now I'm sort of debating, starting it again. Because, like, you really will get, but the problem is, like, all things, you just adjust to it. So after, you know, like, but then you, you get two weeks of incredible fucking workouts. Dude, man, when I first moved here and I was living on my mode, my, on my own, I was going full monk mode, man.
Starting point is 01:31:13 It was just, like, like, I was responsible enough to the point where, like, I stopped taking pre-workout and I started taking like all the nutrients and all the things in the probiotics and all that what's it called supplements that I needed while I was dieting right like I started separating caffeine from this and that it's hard to explain but like I was really into protocoling at the time but then like I started like what is that just making sure that you have the right things at the right time and when you need to have them you know like do you need to have this meal at this time at this far after what he's describing is an American psycho routine I mean, I don't iron my bed
Starting point is 01:31:48 You put on hardcore pornography While you do 100 stomach crunches The most psychotic thing I've ever done was For Maybe eight months I would wake up every morning To like two cups of raw oats A cup of milk
Starting point is 01:32:00 Like third of a cup of honey A bunch of other random shit And cheese seeds I would throw into a blender A bag of frozen fruit Because that's all I could afford And I would just blend that shit and drink it in one go That was the most psychotic shit I ever know My name is Patrick Baitman
Starting point is 01:32:13 I live at 13,000 Wall Street Avenue I'm just trying to be healthy and every morning I wake up at exactly 7.30 apply a cleansing facial mask and then I go shit out 10 pounds of
Starting point is 01:32:27 raw oats okay the shits after raw oats they're fucking abysmal man the shit that will happen to you will fucking make you remember like I watch all quiet on the western front to remember what those
Starting point is 01:32:43 bathroom trips were like They were bad, man. Man, what I've been doing a lot, I've been, because, like, it's, this entire vast year has just been, like, trying to recover from, like, my year of substance abuse. And I'm starting to, I'm absolutely ordering a pizza today, so that's not good. But in general, the oats and protein powder and beans and shit. The double workouts, one in the morning, one in the afternoon. What does I have to do with saving money? Yes, but what does that have to do with saving money?
Starting point is 01:33:13 I was so bored and I couldn't afford to do anything. The reason I didn't go fucking crazy at month four was because you gave me a PS4 that was like dying. And I started learning how to play Fortnite and I got back into gaming again. And like Jim and Lee, that was a crazy help to my psyche was doing something that wasn't just working out and dealing with my shit at the time. You know, like, I'm glad to have helped you. Yeah, sorry, continue. No, it's just I don't want to downplay. Jim andly was, it's crazy how much a little thing.
Starting point is 01:33:43 thing can set you in a more positive direction. Woof, gaming is never a little thing. I'm just saying, like, I believe in the positivity of gaming, man. Like, seriously, like, I mean, you're living on your own in a city. Like, I was a college dropout, and I decided to go back. Like, I felt like a fucking loser. Like, I'm an alcoholic. I'm smoking too much.
Starting point is 01:34:04 All these things that are piling all together, right? And then just, like, a few months of working out, getting into Fortnite, of all things. getting into Fortnite and I don't know oh yeah and watching all of Dragon Ball Z just off rip just all of that shit recovered me better than there I dropped 60 pounds
Starting point is 01:34:22 I can lift twice what I used to be able to man I am I it helped me I got me where I needed to be also Goku's a terrible parent he's a bad parent it took me that much it took me that much time to know that we are now doing Andrew Huberman shit this is now a self-help
Starting point is 01:34:37 podcast if you want to get your tricep dips up if you want to be losing weight, lifting heavy. What you've got to do is you got to watch Dragon Ball Z play Fortnite and shit out 10 pounds of raw oats first thing. It was two cups, okay? That's a lot. I know.
Starting point is 01:34:57 I know it's a lot. It was an entire blender. Like in a whole blender, I just pound that shit. I talked about the rice incident, right? Oh, yeah, where you used rice instead. Yeah, I used cooked rice because I had a bunch of cooked rice everywhere instead of the oats and it turned the slush into mochi and it was like thick like concrete i could feel every lump going down my throat as i tried to drink it like it sat like a like a
Starting point is 01:35:20 stone in my stomach man oh it's like a war zone in that toilet bed oh god dude pop open the youtube home page huh pop up in the youtube home page sure also i was just recently thinking about, like, I don't know why Asman was a picture of him for whatever, and I was thinking about Cahogia and the Birdman and their haremes that buried and all that. What the fuck does that have to do with Asman Gold, who... So this is my understanding. Asmond gold is a wow
Starting point is 01:35:51 gremlin? Yeah. Right? Okay. What does that have to do with that? I just, I don't know. I just saw a picture of him, and I've heard him like talk and speak for it, so I know what his cadence is. And I was just imagining him, like, buried like, buried in the mound right with just like hundreds of Uber Eats orders, all uneaten, all around.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Pharaoh burial. There's like a sword of the lich king in the background as well. To clarify, I don't think he is a god king. I just think it's really funny to imagine him like mummified. That is his deepest desire. I mean, if he were a god king, it would just be Uber Eats and I don't even know what the fuck, wow gold. I just like, I know
Starting point is 01:36:27 I'm like this, I'm just a guy just talking to, into a mic right, but I just, I think it's so funny how much people like these weird these weird looking people, you know? And I don't mean looking, weird acting too. just like weird political angry all the time
Starting point is 01:36:43 empathetic to nothing unto themselves but themselves it's just why do people like these guys I don't I've never understood the appeal of streaming in general not even to streaming I was like coming back from the gym
Starting point is 01:36:59 and so I don't even work out at the gym what I do is I go to the gym because I want to use someone else's toilet so I can shit out my two cups over all. Shut the fuck. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Where was I? I was coming back from the gym, and it was NPR was on, and it had like Hassan on there talking about free speech and shit. It was just bizarre. In the same room? No, he probably
Starting point is 01:37:31 was like digital, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, no, it's just in general. They completely interviewed him, and they were like, tell us why what you do matters. I'm like Jesus Christ And I just have an incredibly low opinion Of all streamers I guess particularly political ones Like I don't know
Starting point is 01:37:46 Like if you want to make political change I think the path is still organizing And not watching someone else's videos and reacting Like Hassan once watched one of my videos And I It was my top five failures of the CIA one And man I would do that video So much fucking better now
Starting point is 01:38:03 But I just I've told you about this right He and I was like He's not reacting to it very much Not reacting at all, not looking at it, one could even say. Just eating sweet green the whole fucking time. And I was like, this, like, I'm going to skip to the cat thing. Because the cat thing, it's not exactly esoteric knowledge, but he may not know about that. Like, obviously the guy knows about, like, the missile gap or whatever.
Starting point is 01:38:25 And I was like, the Acoustic Kitty Project, like, he'll probably get a good laugh out of it. I skipped to that section, and he wasn't in the chair. He was just somewhere else the entire time. Yeah, yeah. And I also, this is a completely different, and this does not bother me nearly as much. But it was a woman on the Destiny podcast. I guess he does a podcast with her. And unlike this podcast, which is just God tier,
Starting point is 01:38:52 because I just don't bother filming a video component. We fucking tried. She had Flint Dibble and Minuteman on there. And I respect both of those guys. I know both of those guys. I like Minuteman. Yeah. I mean, Flint Dibble is an action.
Starting point is 01:39:07 archaeologicalist and they brought up my mad or she brought up my mad god of the Yucatan video and like most of my videos to be clear I am reducing complicated history like I learn more about them than I communicate in the video because like it's just
Starting point is 01:39:25 the stories don't map onto clean narratives right the narrative structure that we all like and I am a YouTuber and I'm well no I I learned more than the Wikipedia but like I'm doing if anything a Wikipedia media-like thing where I'm distilling these very complicated events. That's what I'm saying, though.
Starting point is 01:39:41 You're not reading off of an old book, like this boring old lawyer thing. No, no, no. You're extrapolating. You're reducing. You're adding to it. You're adding value to it by doing that. You're not just reading off an old manuscript because that would be the truest form is reading a primary source.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Who would listen to that? Well, I wouldn't. The point that I try to do is like I want to get people to read about these things themselves. Yeah. Because I do, I will do actual source. discussion. So it's above most pop history, which is fine. There's nothing wrong with pop history. I like watching silly videos about like whatever, you know. What did they bring up? But the point that I'm trying to make, no, it's like Mad God of the Ukuton is because I really
Starting point is 01:40:19 went for it. That was genuinely really good history where I did not, because I just focused on this one man and this one summer, really. Like I could really luxuriate in the details and I got into like the theological and political and cultural reasons why he did what he did and I you know I that is out of all my videos I think the one that I'm most proud of not as like a video creator but as a historian and she did not remember Diego Delonda's name it's a two hour long video about one guy and she didn't say his name she couldn't remember and she did not describe properly and basically what she said is is it true I watched this video and is it true the Mayans burn, or excuse me, that the Spaniards burned
Starting point is 01:41:07 Mayan, I think she might have said the word books too, which is a, that's being pedantic. But it doesn't matter. Did they really burn Maya codices? And he was like, I don't know much about that period in time, but I believe yes. Which is, yeah, anyone with even a passing knowledge of the Spanish Empire knows that they destroyed all sorts of pre-Columbian artifacts. Like, it's just, and then she was like, okay, so DJ Peach Gobbler was right everyone if you were worried Essentially it was like this impression that
Starting point is 01:41:38 I had to be I know more about that than Flint Dibble I know more about that event than anyone She asked Flint 0.01% of people on earth I know about that shit And that's not like it's a very specific historical event That I really dedicated myself to
Starting point is 01:41:54 And it's very frustrating Hearing someone that Admittedly he said I don't know a lot about it Which is fine flint Dibble is not obligated to know a lot about Diego Delanda and the Inquisition of the Maya but like it really just drove me up the wall like why the fuck and it wasn't that specifically
Starting point is 01:42:12 it did upset me what upset me was that I got a bunch of people in my fucking Reddit and shit and they were like isn't this exciting don't you feel honored to be talked about on the Destiny podcast to be not properly described on the Destiny podcast
Starting point is 01:42:30 it just drove me up the fucking wall. And Destiny fans, I think, are the worst out of all political streamers, because they think he's really something special. I'll be rude with you. I don't know who this is. Another political streamer. I thought this was a girl this whole time if I'm being ready with you. No, well, the girl is like, she's with him on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:42:46 Pull up a photo of these two. I want to see him. I don't know. He just looks like a typical streamer, Gremlin. He's not hot. Which, at least Hassan is hot. If I was hotter, I'd be on NPR. Right up there with Michael. Yeah, when I first started hearing about this guy,
Starting point is 01:43:01 figured, I always thought they were talking about the game. Wow, he looks so serious. Bo Burnham phenotype. The blue hair. I'm sorry, the blue hair and the tagline why I engaged with extremists is hilarious. Oh, fuck, he's got the Reddit hat. He's got the Redditor hat, bro. He got Band-Off kick
Starting point is 01:43:19 for hate speech and demonetized on X. No, maybe he is based. Crazy to do that on X, of all things, at this point. I mean, I got Band-off fucking X. But granted... What did you say that got you, off events. I don't want to say it on here because I'm going to get banned off YouTube. I know. I do feel bad about what I said, honestly.
Starting point is 01:43:38 It was, nah, it doesn't matter. I still would approach the internet, and that is something that I should have stopped. I would approach the internet, like, I was on 4chan dick and around, because I spent a lot of time on 4chan dick and around, but it is like a certain point. I could be telling some 15-year-old
Starting point is 01:43:53 that likes my stuff that they're a fucking idiot or something, and that's not nice. When I'm anonymous on the internet, that's okay. Because it's like who cares. When you're anonymous on the internet, you and everyone you're talking to, they're all fat needs. Like regardless of whether or not that's true, in your head, that's who you're a loser, they're a loser. Everyone is on equal ground.
Starting point is 01:44:14 Except for our listeners who are ripped, based, and go to the gym every day, right? Every last one of them. They stretch that sphincter. They max out every single day. Calls for imprisonment for incitement for incitement to violence. Okay, what did you say? Privacy Badger. to stop the truth.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Destiny refuses to condemn Charlie, he would not condemn the assassination of Charlie Kirk, insisting, you won't do so until Trump publicly calls for calm. Why is he negotiating with the president? I understand that he's Trump. So I'm not going to act like there's decorum
Starting point is 01:44:49 here. Yeah. But, like, still, it's like, once the president meets my demands, like, it's I think it's bad that the guy that I was talking got shot in the throat. And I really don't think it's that complicated. need to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so they can look to their leadership to turn down the temperature.
Starting point is 01:45:08 He's also just so clearly buzzing on Adderall constantly. Adderall! And it just drives me insane. In general, I can't watch anyone on the Internet that's clearly on Adderall. Because that was one of the things I was abusing so much, and I recognize it. It destroys your ability to reflect on your own thoughts.
Starting point is 01:45:29 Like, I know that, like, I'm, um, what is the word? Where, like, I can't move. I don't know. I'm plagued by self-doubt too much, but when you, and that's why I abused amphetamine so much, is that will steadily reduce your self-doubt, the more you up the dosage. But you need self-doubt. If you don't have self-doubt, you can convince idiots that you're really smart and you know what you're talking about. Yeah, because you would call me like 11.
Starting point is 01:45:59 p.m. at night and just saying the most dumb-ass shit sometimes, man. You're telling me about going the weirdest tangents about shit and I would just be like, okay, man. When did this happen? I don't know, back whatever you were in Adderall and whatnot. Just like, it was, I don't even remember
Starting point is 01:46:15 what the points were about. But it would just be like a long, it would be like 10 tangents in one sentence. And I was like, hey man, later on, man, just tell me about this later. And I didn't understand your struggle at the time because I was just unaware of it. But now I understand.
Starting point is 01:46:34 No, I'm sorry. That was a, I remember there was a really, really brief time whenever the old job I used to have. It was a, it was a quota-based repair company and all that, you know. And there was a lot, a lot of speed abusers there. But it's not like you're running the middle, like 20-year-old, like, expected, like, white guy, right? That's what I see when I see a speed abuser, right? It was mostly older people, like in their 40s and 50s. 50s.
Starting point is 01:47:01 Yeah, just everyone, black, white, Vietnamese, just, that was basically everyone there. And not a lot of Latinos there. I just realized that in retrospect. I think it's because, like, they asked me a lot, hey, do you speak Vietnamese? Hey, do you speak Vietnamese? Hey, do you speak Vietnamese in the hiring process? Because I think they wanted to be a manager at one point. But all the same.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Yeah, there was just a lot of speed abuse because, like, if you didn't, you didn't make your quota in time, you know, that's a reason to get rid of you. you know and like that was just the way it was there that was what really not only did abusing speed make me a worse YouTuber oh the the the historically I some of my best stuff also was the Aztec project but I used AI generated images and I just and it still drives me insane that I did that I don't understand why that I put all that it was stupid because I because I was abusing speed and my judgment was not sad And it fucking kills me that I did that man. This is my issue with online creators, right? There are people who are so committed to their art and their ideas and philosophy like you. They will beat themselves up years after the fact for using a cost-cutting measure, right? And then you'll have these fucking like ghoul slot factories come out with all this fucking bullshit everywhere.
Starting point is 01:48:16 And it's like, I don't want you to feel bad. I want them to feel bad. But realistically, everyone has to in the first place. So it's, I don't know. I don't think there's anything wrong with using AI generated images. I don't really see the issue with it. I didn't just take, like, I took them and used them as backdrops for my actual pie characters. And, you know, it was very much, like, if there's a place to use it, it was more legitimate there.
Starting point is 01:48:41 Because I didn't have money, and I still don't have money to hire artists to make a million backgrounds. The lack of good backgrounds is just awful. But also, as far as, like, where AI is able to do things, generative AI, maybe it's changed. I really doubt it, cannot do Aztec shit. And it doesn't need to be strictly historically accurate, but it needs to not look like a fucking cartoon. It needs to not be like a 30-tiered pyramid that doesn't look right.
Starting point is 01:49:12 And you can just look at it and inherently, it looks like it would make Aztec warriors, quote-unquote, and they don't need to be like completely accurate, but they need to not look like a football mascot. The podcast just sort of tapers out here. We both just like started generating shitty-looking Aztec AI images. Thanks for stopping by.
Starting point is 01:49:32 Sorry I was so low energy. New video soon. It's been a good pod. Thank you for listening to the E-Haw Gaming podcast. Thank you for that.

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