The Young Turks - Above The Law

Episode Date: July 2, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Live from the Polymarket Studio in Los Angeles, The Young Turks, Jank U Grant, Experian with you guys. Guys, big show ahead. Decision is in, Biden, is he staying in or going out? You're gonna be shocked.
Starting point is 00:00:57 No, you won't. But no, I mean, but it's kind of shocking. It is, yeah, it's shocking, it's shocking. Anyways, who are the decision makers, what's the strategy they're going with? We've got it all for you guys, don't miss a minute of it, because some of the details are the most important parts. Tons of people are getting massively important details wrong. We're gonna clarify all that for you guys, but of course on the same day, a gigantic, maybe potentially democracy ending Supreme Court decision, so let's do that first.
Starting point is 00:01:27 So let's do that first. All right, well, why don't we start with this? It's also scary because what is Trump going to do? If Trump gets elected and there's this idea that he can get away with even more stuff, that's really, really scary for the public because he already ran over every norm that he could. So it seems like, I mean, just I'm just looking at it's politically, not legally, politically. It's almost like a license to thug in a way, like you can do whatever you want. And the Supreme Court is probably gonna let you get away with it.
Starting point is 00:01:59 That is very frightening in this case. And so I'm very, I'm very concerned. That was Van Jones reacting to something that quite frankly, I feel that the vast majority of the country already knew that the president gets away with quite a bit. And that's not only including Donald Trump, and we'll get to those details in a moment, but in a six three decision split by ideological lines, the Supreme Court has now ruled that Donald Trump is in fact immune from
Starting point is 00:02:27 prosecutions for or prosecution for acts that he engages in as part of his official presidential duties. That means that he will have immunity protection for some of the acts he's indicted for under that federal election interference case, but not all. Jenk. Yes, so obviously it applies to all presidents, including President Biden right now. So the scope of what he can do to Trump and others is amazing. We'll get into that in a second. And also the most important part of the story is the one that people are not talking about enough.
Starting point is 00:02:59 We're going to explain the difference between official on unofficial. But what does quote unquote absolute immunity mean? We'll get back to that because that's critical. So look, it is important to point out that the Supreme Court rejected Donald Trump's argument that everything he engaged in was covered under absolute immunity or that the president enjoys absolute immunity. There are exceptions, and those exceptions have to do with unofficial acts. The opinion from Chief Justice John Roberts declared that former presidents have absolute immunity from criminal prosecution over actions that fall within their core constitutional powers.
Starting point is 00:03:36 There is no immunity, Roberts wrote, for unofficial acts, including the president engaging in campaigning efforts for his reelection campaign. That is not included as part of the official presidential duty. is what the president is engaging in for his personal benefit in order to get reelected. He says that the president enjoys no immunity for his unofficial acts, and not everything the president does is official, Roberts wrote. The president is not above the law, but Congress may not criminalize the president's conduct in carrying out the responsibilities of the executive branch under the constitution. And look, that distinction is incredibly important and significant as it pertains to Jack Smith's federal election interference case against Trump,
Starting point is 00:04:24 because Trump's own lawyers during oral arguments even conceded that not all of Donald Trump's acts, which led to these indictments, are considered official presidential acts. Now, there are some, there was some dissent even among the conservative justices. I just want to give you that side note involving Justice Amy Coney Barrett. So she wrote a concurrence saying that the court should not have ruled out allowing prosecutors to use evidence of a president's official acts, even when he could not be directly prosecuted for them. This is what she wrote. The Constitution does not require blinding juries to the circumstances surrounding conduct for which presidents can be held liable. Barrett wrote in an opinion that often seemed to be more intention with the conservative majority than she let on.
Starting point is 00:05:15 But this also means that immediately some of the central allegations that Jack Smith has leveled against Donald Trump will be knocked out, including claims that he attempted to weaponize his Justice Department to concoct or amplify false claims of voter fraud. Now, what happens next? Well, according to the Supreme Court's decision, U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkin must now look through the allegations made against Donald Trump by Jack Smith and determine which acts fall under official duties and which acts fall under unofficial duties. Okay, but even after she makes that decision, understand that it's not necessarily all is said and done because there could be more of a fight in regard to whatever her decision. decisions are here, and you're about to hear Ellie Honig explain that in the next clip. I actually want to skip ahead, guys, to the very last video here, video three.
Starting point is 00:06:12 The court says several times whatever the district court finds can be appealed before trial. Jack Smith had made an argument of, well, maybe the district judge, the trial judge can work it out and send it to the jury, and then the jury can separate official from unofficial acts. Several times in this opinion, the Supreme Court, the majority, says explicitly, whatever the judge decides about what's official or unofficial, what's immune or not immune, that can be appealed back up. Zero percent chance that happens before November. So Honig there is also trying to answer the question of whether or not this trial will take place prior to the election simultaneously. And so he's making clear that it is very unlikely because the decisions that Judge Chutkin makes in regard to what is and isn't considered
Starting point is 00:06:57 official acts by the president or former president could be appealed. And those appeals, will lead to more delays in this case, Jank. Yeah, so first let's discuss the Trump implications and then the much broader and more dangerous implications for the country. So number one, on Honig, I actually disagreed with him on some of the stuff he said later in that segment, but on that portion, he's definitely correct. No chance this gets resolved before the election. So if Trump wins and if Biden stays in the races, we'll talk about later in the show,
Starting point is 00:07:29 He's pretty much guaranteed a victory. So it'll be totally wiped away, totally scot-free. That's absolutely clear. And the Supreme Court justice has very, very clearly dragged their heels. At every moment that they could delay, they delayed. And so this is the very last time that they could have given this. And then they put in a couple of provisions that also made Chutkin deciding later. They could have said she could start deciding right now, but they said, no, you can't start deciding until August.
Starting point is 00:07:59 So are they trying to protect Trump from this particular prosecution? Definitely, no question about it, okay? So now when it gets to the broader issue, that's where the real danger comes into play. Okay, so look, on the Trump prosecutions, they were massively important, but they're never going to happen because either he's going to win the election and he wipes the right, or he loses, and let's keep it real. The Democrats, they never meant it. If he gets convicted, they're going to let him go. There's no way he's going to go to a federal penitentiary for bringing these laws. But anyway, so the important part is what is the precedent?
Starting point is 00:08:29 Now, everybody's focusing on official versus unofficial acts. And that's where I think Honing was wrong in other parts of his opinions on CNN. Because Anna, he talked about if, oh, well, I mean, like the example of Sotomayor used in her dissent, just using SEAL Team 6 to murder someone. He's like, that's preposterous. That can't happen. That's an unofficial act. Yeah, he's wrong about that.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I agree that he's wrong in that analysis. Can we actually go to that video? Because we have it. I want the audience to see that moment and then we'll discuss what we think. Let's take a look. Sotomayor's dissent, where she says, you know, the majority pays lip service to this idea that the president is not above the law. And then in effect says that for certain official acts, the president is in fact above the law.
Starting point is 00:09:11 It's how do you sort out what this actually means? If the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military or order someone to assassinate him, is that within his official acts for which he can get immunity? It would depend on the hypothetical that we can see that could well be an official. That was a stunning moment in April. Did the court just say, yeah, you can assassinate a political rival? No, I don't think they did. That's a ridiculous answer by Donald Trump's team, a dangerous and reckless answer. So, Jank, you're arguing that this, I mean, that you disagree, and I disagree with him as well. that this ruling does actually indicate that if the president engages in criminality
Starting point is 00:10:01 as part of his official presidential duties, well, then he's free from prosecution. Yeah, this has already happened. So I'm going to give you a case that proves him 100% wrong. But on top of that, he's saying something ridiculous. And normally I like Honing's analysis. I think he is relatively unbiased. So because the president doesn't go and say, this is now an unofficial Act. When I normally use Navy SEAL Team 6, it is an official act, but this one is to murder my political opponents and hence on official. He's not going to say that, right? He's going to say, what do you mean? Using the military is part of my, as Chief Justice Roberts put it, core constitutional powers. It doesn't get any more core constitutional power than the president
Starting point is 00:10:47 using the military. Right. So then you're going to get into boundaries. But the case says you are not allowed to get into boundaries. So then how do we know if it was an official or unofficial act when we can't even find out? So let me give you two quotes from the case that proven. One is actually sent in by one of our members just now. I love how smart our members are. Okay, so this is eclectic miscellania. You guys hit the link below to become a TYT member, tyt.com slash team.
Starting point is 00:11:17 TYot.com slash team. So it's like you wrote it. It's not just official acts. It's anything the president claims they did as part of their job. We can't even question it. We just have to take their word that they thought it was an official act. Quote from the ruling, quote, in dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the president's motives.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Well, if you can't inquire into the president's motives or any reason why he did it, how do you know if it's an official or unofficial act? For a limited time at McDonald's, Enjoy the tasty breakfast trio. Your choice of chicken or sausage McMuffin or McGrittles with a hash brown and a small iced coffee for five bucks plus tax. Available until 11 a.m. at participating McDonald's restaurants. Price excludes flavored iced coffee and delivery.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Here, let me read you another quote from the ruling, which is just over the top, okay? So this is in regards to what they are allowed to do, not allowed to do. Quote from Roberts, Trump is absolutely immune from prosecution for the alleged conduct involving his discussions with Justice Department officials. So absolutely immune for what he discusses with the Justice Department in relation to the certification of the election. Okay, well, if that's the case, we can't even inquire into what it is that he asked the Justice Department. But wait a minute, if he asked the Justice Department, hey, are you guys sure that? that we lost, that's perfectly fine.
Starting point is 00:12:52 That's what then arguably within his official duties. And if you told me that's all Trump did, I'd be like, oh, not guilty. That's the most normal thing in the world, right? But what if he tells his Justice Department, I don't care if I won or lost, go find me some votes. That is arguably what he did, but you'd have to adjudicate that, but you can't adjudicate it anymore because they said you're not even allowed to look into it, quote, absolute immunity. But what if he said to the Justice Department, hey, you know what, I lost, but I, but if we If we do a fake prosecution of Joe Biden, it'll seem like I won and we'll be able to put him in prison and then I'll just retain power.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Quote, absolute immunity, you're not even allowed to ask about it. Well, then you can order the Justice Department to do anything. What I'm wondering is if they at all in their decision make a distinction between the president acting out of his own personal interest for himself versus official presidential acts that have to do. do with the governance of the country? No, that's why a lot of legal experts are pulling their hair out going, how do we know when it's official or unofficial? Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:02 So for example, official is presidential duties, unofficial is candidate duties. But how do you know if he did candidate duties or presidential duties if you're not allowed to ask, right? And absolute immunity is not unclear. And that is the direct quote that I've just read you guys from the Supreme Court's decision. So this thing is totally screwed. Now let me give you the example, and you and I have talked about it many times, of something that already happened, could have led to a prosecution of a president.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And before you decide whether you like this or don't like this, hold down and find out which president and what they did. Right. Right. Obama killed an American citizen with a drone strike. With no due process. With no due process and did not ask the courts. And his attorney general said that due process is not necessarily a judicial process.
Starting point is 00:14:50 So we never had to ask any courts. The attorney general and the president talk. They decided to win their official duties to unilaterally execute an American citizen abroad. And they did. And so now I think they should have been, they both should have been prosecuted for that. Of course they never work because they're in the elites, right?
Starting point is 00:15:07 But now that's official, like you can't even ask. So now if they can kill Anwar al-Blocki, which they allege was a terrorist, but by the way, never proved, never even showed any evidence that he was a terrorist, that he was a terrorist. They said he said mean and terrible things. He did.
Starting point is 00:15:23 That doesn't mean he launched any bombs or anything like that. So if they can kill that U.S. citizen and we're not allowed to ask, are we allowed to ask when they kill another U.S. citizen abroad? And they go, me and the Attorney General talked it over. We're done with this. Absolute immunity. And okay, that was abroad. What's the stop them from doing it at home?
Starting point is 00:15:44 Well, you said, well, that's not an official duty. How do you know it's not an official duty? He says it's an official duty and you're not allowed to ask. And so this is insanity. If it is as Justice Sotomayor is explaining in the dissent and it looks like based on the wording it is, it's kind of a democracy ending case. So because then the president can really call anything in official duty. You're not allowed to ask.
Starting point is 00:16:08 He can do whatever the hell he wants. And look, the Republicans have a giant advantage at it because they know Joe Biden's got a ton of problems. And yeah, Obama did this. to a Muslim American who hasn't been in the country in a while and was advocating for al-Qaeda, at least through his sermons, right? That guy's going to get killed every time and they're not going to give a damn and they're not going to follow the law and no one's going to hold them to account. We already know that, right?
Starting point is 00:16:33 But generally speaking, Democrats are not going to go lock up Republicans. I know Republicans think they are, right? And I know they think that it's totally unfair that just because Trump stole national secrets and just because he tried a coup, blah, blah, blah. But generally, Democrats don't abuse this stuff. Look at what they're investigating under Biden. Democratic Senator Bob Menendez, Democratic congressman, you know, Quay are in Texas, et cetera, right? But Republicans and Trump, they just, they're saying it nonstop.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Later in the show, we're talking about Steve Bannon. He's like, oh, we're gonna go after all our political opponents and we're gonna use the Justice Department. So the Republicans know the Democrats aren't gonna prosecute us with this stuff, but we could abuse the living crap out of it and there's nothing they could do. But the Democrats are, are prosecuting Donald Trump for, in four separate cases. But you can- And look, you can agree with those prosecutions because he did mishandle classified documents and he did try to implement fake electors, 100%. You know, the only case that actually went all the way through was Alvin Bragg's case alleging, you know, that Donald Trump falsified business documents in order to cover up the hush money payments to Stormy Daniels. And that case, unfortunately, is, in my opinion, was the pettiest one out of all of them.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And that's the one that actually went through. And so the public, generally speaking, does see it as a politically motivated prosecution against Donald Trump. So but Anna, so that's a great point in that there's, that's important to distinguish, okay? So you're right that a lot of the public, not all the public by a long shot, but a lot of the public does see it as political. And we talked about how the timing we think is political, and that's a giant problem, right? But they didn't do any of that under the cover of night. They didn't say, hey, I'm talking to Biden who pulls aside Merrick Garland, let's do this, let's do that. They said, they did it all above board.
Starting point is 00:18:26 You can ask him any questions you want for a minute. And if they did anything wrong, Joe Biden was not immune. Like if he illegally told that prosecutors to go after Donald Trump, in the past, he was definitely not immune. Actually, ironically, the deep state, the guys who believe in the deep state should be panicking right now, because in their minds, Joe Biden is constantly illegally telling the Justice Department to prosecute Trump and MAGA, right? Well, now he has immunity to do it, absolute immunity. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:18:58 So how did that help you? That's a good point. So yeah, I mean, I think ultimately we'll see how the judge, Tanya Chutkin, decides which allegations against Donald Trump fall under official acts and which fall under unofficial acts. And then it will inevitably be appealed by Trump's legal team. And so the question is, how do those, you know, determinations get adjudicated finally after they're appealed? So that least is the last two things. One is, we know already based on the Robert's opinion that I just read you, that they will not be able to ask the Justice Department, in other words,
Starting point is 00:19:39 Hey, Bob Barr or Bill Barr, wait. Yeah, Bill Barr. Bill Barr, sorry, Bob Barr's a different person. Bill Barr, hey, did Trump tell you to go outside of the bounds of the law in looking into whether the election was, quote, quote, stolen or finding votes that did not exist? Robert says you're not allowed to ask him. He has absolute immunity. He could have asked for anything he wanted, presumably including cheating, and you're just not allowed to ask. So that part of the case is already over.
Starting point is 00:20:10 And Amy Coney Barrett dissented in part, and that is, and her dissent is relevant. Because she joins the majority with all six conservatives overall. But in one part, she says, I dissent on this. Robert says you're not even allowed to present evidence. You're not allowed to seek or present evidence once there's an adjudication that it's an official act. Okay. So she said, well, then you could never get evidence to prove that it was not an official act. So then by definition, the president can do anything.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And that's a conservative justice saying that. Yeah, that's the problem. And that's why you should have never signed on for the majority opinion. And this is a total disaster. Speaking of total disasters, when we come back from the break, we'll talk a little bit about the fallout from Biden's horrible debate performance. It appears that the Democratic Party is going to force Biden upon all of us, regardless of his chances of losing the election against Donald Trump.
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Starting point is 00:21:52 All right, Casper. Well, Jank, anyone who's closely following politics in America right now knows that we are currently living in hell. Because a lot of Democrats are panicking, and I think what they saw on Thursday night, yeah, we've got a lot of questions, Stewart. Did Joe Biden have a bad night, in my opinion? Yes, he absolutely did. Do we have concerns and do we wish that Joe Biden did better yesterday? Yes, why?
Starting point is 00:22:18 Because we put people over politics and we know what's at stake in this country. And we know that this would be devastating to the country and to the world if there is another Donald Trump president. What if I am not part of the drama of this town that immediately demands because somebody had a bad night, we're in a crisis. We're doomed. This is the best we got. The fact that they're pushing such old candidates forward and saying this is the best we have. I hear you, brother, and wait until you hear some of the loudest voices urging Biden to stay in the presidential race despite his horrible debate performance last week. And Democrats, meaning the Democratic Party, are even weighing an early formal nomination of Biden in order to squash any efforts to swap him out with a different candidate.
Starting point is 00:23:08 We're going to get to more on that in just a moment, and it is a spicy story to say the least. Hold on for that. But first, let's talk about the meeting that occurred over the weekend between Joe Biden and his family members. They were in Camp David. And they have decided to blame everyone else for Biden's failure while urging Biden to run. remain in the race. They argue that Biden was not prepared to pivot more to go on the attack. They're alleging that he was forced to spend more time defending his record rather than outlining his vision for the future. So in that regard, they're blaming the debate moderators.
Starting point is 00:23:44 You've just been president for several years. I think you should expect to have to defend your record, but okay. And they also argue that he was overworked and not well rested. And these ridiculous talking points obviously reached the Democratic leadership in Congress. In fact, here's an example from James Clyburn. Yes, it was a bad performance. I've been around these things. I've been a part of debate, preparation before, and I know when I see what I call preparation overload. And that's exactly what was going on the other night.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I saw Joe Biden rapping for words and phrases and even numbers that he was loaded up with. The next day he gets to North Carolina, he's freewheeling, and he captivated the audience. I believe on Friday in North Carolina he had a teleprompter. Joe Biden has a history of stuttering. He did that as a child. All of us know how stutterers operate. I went to school with one. So when you have trouble getting out of the word, that is what comes from stuttering.
Starting point is 00:24:58 But when he expressed opinions, he was on the money with the opinions. He may not have gotten the word out, but the thoughts were great. No, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm no longer I'm going to be a registered Democrat. I'm going to re-register as an independent, because I'm not going to just whole cloth support a party that feels the need to insult voters like that. Yeah, that was insulting and disrespectful to say the least, okay? So that was a slow motion gaslighting, that's what's happening here. They're basically pre-annousing, we are going to gaslight you and now watch us do it.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Did you hear that last comment? He said, yeah, he didn't get the words out, but he had the thoughts right. No, wait, wait, wait, hold on, how would you know? If he didn't get the words out, How do you know which thoughts were in his head? Do you understand the level of absurdity we're dealing with here? So the whole country saw Joe Biden melt on that debate stage. Correct. And these idiots are going out there and going, no, he didn't. No, don't believe you're lying this.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Now, I know why they're doing it. Because a third of the country will believe anything a Democratic leader says. Just like a third of the country will believe anything. The Trump camp says. 100%. This is Blue Maga through and through. Let's keep it real. No, now I'm positive for his blue maga.
Starting point is 00:26:13 And I'm deeply, deeply disappointed. But I, and you know, you can say, hey, Jane, you know what, you're naive. Of course Democrats are just as diluted as Republicans, but it didn't seem like it. Republicans have staked their claim to a number of things that are preposterously untrue. But now the Democrats have joined them. Saying that Biden, it was his staff, how did his staff make him 81? How did his staff make him forget everything he was saying? They're throwing Anita Dunn under the bus.
Starting point is 00:26:41 That's the senior advisor who frequently has the president's ear. Dunn's husband is also being thrown under the bus. That's Bob Bauer, the president's attorney, who played Trump in the rehearsals for the debate. Ron Clayne, the former chief of staff who ran point on the debate prep and previous cycles sessions. It's just, they're throwing everyone else under the bus while simultaneously gaslighting the American people into thinking that we didn't all see what we all saw with our own two eyes. We didn't hear what we all heard with our own two ears. And look, I have my issues with Jake Tapper, but here he is calling a spade a spade. And I have a lot of respect for anyone in the media who's willing to tell the truth. Let's watch.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Biden campaign chair, Geno Malley, Dylan holding a car with call with party leaders earlier today, telling them this two shall pass. There is a pattern, discernible pattern of Democratic officials seemingly trying to convince you the public to not believe what you saw and what you heard with your eyes and with your ears on Thursday night. Democratic officials have tried to spin this in many ways. They said President Biden just had a cold. They said it was just one off night akin to when President Obama in 2012 was rusty and seemed a little huffy. But behind the scenes make no mistake, most Democratic officials witnessed the same shocking spectacle that you did. The Democratic Party has made a clear decision here. And that clear decision is to protect
Starting point is 00:28:18 the selfishness and the ego of Joe Biden and his family members clearly who are urging him to stay in the race over the best interests of the future of the country. Or over the best interests of Democratic voters who overwhelmingly believe that Biden should not be running for reelection right now. Yeah. So let me give you a George Orwell quote. And then I'm going to back it out with overwhelming evidence. So he wrote in 1984, the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final most essential command. Now you tell me that's not exactly what's happening here.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Orwell was an unmitigated genius, that is exactly right. So now let's talk about who they is because there's one decision maker here. NBC News, New York Times, Axios all saying who the top decision maker is. And it's Jill Biden. So Dr. Jill Biden has decided. that she is staying in the race, so Joe will have to stay with her, okay? And so I'm not, this is not hyperbole, guys, and it's all of the major outlets reporting this. So now when, for example, Anita Donne, Ron Clinton, et cetera, or whether you like them or not,
Starting point is 00:29:26 agree with them or not, and Bob Bauer as well, like legendary Democratic staffers. And for that, you could hate them, okay? They have been involved in victories, they've been involved in defeats, and they are bull, loved in Washington, okay? Now all of a sudden, after a career where you told us that they were infallible, whenever I questioned Anita Dunn, people are like, how dare you? I've literally been kicked out of rooms in Washington for questioning Anita Dunn. Yep.
Starting point is 00:29:55 But now all of a sudden, she's under a bus. Under a bus, right? Because precious Biden, we got to protect his feelings. We have to protect his ego, and he and his family insist on continuing with the sham, presidential run. And by the way, just to give you guys the receipts, as reported by political, let's go to graphic two here. First Lady Jill Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, were the loudest voices urging the president to stay in the 2024 contest. I can't believe how little regard they have for their own family member here. Because look, let me just be a human for a second. Put politics
Starting point is 00:30:33 aside. What we saw on that debate stage on Thursday night was so utterly sad. I felt a tremendous amount of sympathy for Joe Biden. It was excruciating to watch, excruciating to hear. And here you have two of his closest family members urging him to continue. How do you watch what he was going through on that debate stage and think to yourself, no, let's let's urge him to continue doing this? Yeah. Well, there's two issues with that. Number one, who the hell is Hunter Biden? From last I heard, he was a modern artist. And so it's not just that he's only listening to Jill Biden and a little bit of Hunter Biden. It's that he is actively, and this is again reported by every outlet, actively not listening to his advisors.
Starting point is 00:31:19 So he's not looking at polls, he's not looking at advisors, not looking at voters. He's actively fighting against the media now, the media that loved them a minute ago, right? Right. So the only people he's listening to are these folks. So Hunter Biden has no authority. He doesn't know anything about politics. In fact, look, Hunter Biden's an obvious con man, but we defended Joe Biden because I said, yeah, but he's got nothing to do with Hunter Biden.
Starting point is 00:31:41 That's his son, what can he do? But now if Joe Biden's telling us, oh yeah, the only guy I'm gonna listen to is Hunter Biden and Joe Biden. Well, then yeah, we need to know is Hunter's still on crack. I'm being serious because he's advising the president to do a maniacal thing that might cost us our democracy. And you're listening to a guy who is a Ukrainian gas expert? Come on, man, super obvious comment. I feel my heart's broken for you that your son turned out to be a clown.
Starting point is 00:32:13 But I'll defend you on that, but not if he's going to make the decisions. Right. That's insane. I'm gonna have to write you a ticket to my new movie, The Naked Gun. Liam Nissan. Buy your tickets now and get a free chili dog. Chili dog, not included. The Naked Gun. Tickets on sale now.
Starting point is 00:32:42 August 1st. Biden is milking his dad and has his whole life. We've been very honest about that besides which again, you'd have to do massive gaslighting not to pretend that Hunter Biden wasn't using his name to make money for these last 10, 20 years. That is a good point, Jenk. That is a good point. And the other thing that I want to just bring up is think about the core campaign platform
Starting point is 00:33:22 that the Biden campaign has rolled out. What has he been leaning on in order to win reelection? The notion that if Biden loses and Trump wins, well, democracy is on the line. It is the most consequential election for Americans to vote in, right? Because democracy is on the line, everyone. Yet they insist on allowing Biden to run reelection, even given what his debate performance was, even given the very obvious cognitive decline he has suffered. Look, even putting politics aside, if you were a Democrat, be honest with yourself.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Are you comfortable with Joe Biden in that state of mind running the country? Yeah, but you know, at this point, let's be honest. Now let's go to the number one culprit here, Dr. Jill Biden. So how long did she know that he's been in this severe mental decline? Because she absolutely, she's the one person we all know knows, right? She's noted all along. Remember the Axios article that leaked over the weekend that said that he can only function between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m. So first of all, you can't be president if your brain only functions
Starting point is 00:34:32 for six hours a day. Remember all the criticism Trump got justified criticism for all the executive time he likes to take where he's literally just sitting his ass on a couch watching television. Democrats loved criticizing the Trump administration for that. Yeah. But now we're going to pretend like the president only working a few hours a day is totally fine when it's a Democrat. And think about how thick the gaslighting is that any of this works for one second, they bragged that the president could still function for a quarter of the day. That was a story they put out. That's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:35:06 So now what's, how about the other three quarters of the day? Well, Jill Biden is with him the entire time. So she knows, she knows how badly he has declined. She's known for a long, long time. Why do you think he doesn't do any interviews? Why do you think he passed up the Super Bowl interview? Why do you think he does a new press conferences? because Jill Biden is quote unquote protecting him.
Starting point is 00:35:26 No, she's protecting herself from people finding out that Joe Biden is not in charge. She's in charge. So you can say, hey, look, I don't know if she's making the decisions on bombing, not bombing, wars, etc. But I do know she's making the decision on whether to stay in the race or not. And that is, according to what every Democrat has told us for the last year, democracy's on the line, the most important election of our lifetimes. Hence, Jill Biden is making the most important decision, maybe in the history of this country, but she doesn't want you to know that.
Starting point is 00:36:02 So that's why they're blaming the staff, that's why they're blaming moderators. They're like, why didn't they do a fact check of Trump? Why didn't you do a fact check to Trump? You're his opponent, you're right there, why didn't you do it? That's because your brain has fallen out and your wife knows that. But at this point, it's impossible not to know. that Jill Biden is power hungry. And she, look, now I'm seeing all these pictures of her like putting out tweets saying,
Starting point is 00:36:25 preparing for the G7, and she's got this big folder. Yeah, no, why are you preparing for G7? No one elected you to be president, okay? This is, this is unbelievable to me. I can't, look, for many, many hours, maybe for a full day after the debate took place. There was something oddly comforting in the fact that everyone seemed to agree that Biden's performance. performance was terrifying, that Biden is not fit to serve another four years as president. And then after, you know, the Biden camp and the Biden family got together over the weekend
Starting point is 00:36:59 and decided no, he's not gonna drop out of the race, well then everyone needs to bow their heads, know their role, and provide cover for Biden as if we didn't all see what we saw last Thursday. I wanna reset and talk a little bit about some of the polling that's come out following that debate. So let's get to that. So new polling indicates that the vast majority of Americans do not believe that Biden should continue running in the presidential race. Now this is a CBS News, UGov poll published on Sunday, and it showed that 72% of registered voters do not believe Biden has the mental and cognitive health to serve as president. And that's up from 65% earlier this month.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I think that comparison is important because this isn't new. Voters have been saying in poll after poll for many months that Biden and his mental decline makes him unfit to serve. He shouldn't run for reelection. But the Democratic Party decided to ignore that. And the numbers have of course gotten much worse following his terrible debate performance. I should note that 46% of registered Democratic voters say that he should not run compared to 54% who say that he should. So only 54% of Democrats believe, okay, you should stay in the race. Now, the election isn't ultimately decided by the partisans.
Starting point is 00:38:26 It's ultimately decided by independents. And I find it hard to believe that independent voters watch that debate on Thursday night and thought to themselves. No, no, Biden should totally remain in the race and he should serve another four years as president. Nancy Pelosi, by the way, was asked about the damning polling over the weekend. And here's what she had to say. A new CBS UGov poll out this morning that was taken after the debate finds that 72% of voters now say they do not think President Biden has the mental or cognitive health to serve as president. Well, what do they think about the other guy?
Starting point is 00:39:00 Do they think that he has the integrity to be president after that performance? Let us just go. Let us not make a judgment about a presidency on one. one debate. Let's talk about what it means to people in their lives. And that's why you're not seeing much change in the polls on this. The difference between Joe Biden and the former president is so clear. If you are a woman and you care about your reproductive freedom and your health and women do, you see a complete difference between a woman's right to choose on the part of Joe Biden and a ban on abortion with the other guy.
Starting point is 00:39:43 It's not about performance in terms of a debate, it's about performance in a presidency. And I want you to know that the fact is that the reaction to the lies of Donald Trump is something that maybe TV isn't focusing on, but people are. So as you probably saw on the screen, the same poll asked the same question about Donald Trump, And the numbers were much lower in regard to the percentage of Americans who think that he should avoid running for re-election. And so, look, Jake, do you think she makes a decent case there? Because she, you know, starts listing all of the different policy differences between Biden and Trump, which, okay, fair enough. But we're not having a discussion about policy differences.
Starting point is 00:40:28 We're having a discussion about the mental decline of the current president of the United States who insists on running for reelection, even though clearly he shouldn't be. of that mental decline. And by the way, you want to talk about integrity? They're gaslighting us in real time. And they want to talk about the integrity of the Democratic Party. Yeah, no, mask off, Democratic leadership is decrepit. They're all liars. And now they're lying to you when you know they're lying to you.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And so I think it's a turning point. I mean, the whole thing is a mirage. It's all theater. Now look, guys, look at the idiocy of this strategy. The last two Democrats we showed you defending Biden on the show today were James Clyburn and Nancy Pelosi. You want to know how old they are? 84. They're both 84. So they sent out 84-year-olds to defend an 81-year-old. And did you hear Nancy Pelosi right there? She's like, the other guy. She's not much better, right? So why? Because all of these people have proven themselves to corporate donors as a great return on investment.
Starting point is 00:41:29 They will always deliver for corporate donors. That's why this party is so old. Next thing you know, they're going to bring out Diane Feinstein to tell you that Joe Biden's fine. Well, in fact, Jeffrey Katzenberg is hitting up all the Democratic donors to Biden and urging them to relax, chill out. Everything's going to be okay. Okay, that's absurd. That's a lunatic thing to do. I'm sorry, but that's just, I mean, you have to be crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I'm going to explain in a second why Joe Biden has a 0% chance of winning. If you're for Biden staying in the race, you're definitively for Trump winning. No endsips or butts. I'm going to get to that in one second. But to answer your question, Anna, about the substance of what Pelosi was saying, she's like, oh, yeah, how about Trump? But guys, Trump is a constant. Whether Gretchen Whitmer's our candidate or Joe Biden's our candidate, Trump is always the same.
Starting point is 00:42:18 But we're not going to be, the American people are not going to be voting based on Trump if Biden stays in the race. They're going to be voting against the guy whose brain doesn't work anymore. If Biden's out of the race, then they get to vote against Trump. And that's what the Democrats' whole strategy is. Now, but they can't execute even their own weak strategy with Biden in the race. Right. So now, it's what the stat that I read you, 72% of Americans think that he is not mentally healthy enough to be president.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Just let that sink in. That means seven out of 10 Americans think that his brain has basically stopped working. Not completely, but enough that he is not mentally healthy and cannot function. Let me ask you this, even if you're diehard blue maga, would you let Joe Biden drive your car? Would you let Joe Biden drive your car with your kids inside of it? How about if there was no seatbels for anyone? You know you wouldn't. You know you wouldn't take that risk for one mile, okay?
Starting point is 00:43:18 But you want him to be the president of the United States for Gregian Whitmer, Josh Shapiro, today Andy Bashir, governor of Kentucky. has won twice in Kentucky. These guys would all be up 10 points. Why do you wanna lose? So, and the reason is because Blue Maga will believe anything. I mean, that 54% that say he still should stay in the race. Crazy, yeah. They don't, they truly believe what Pelosi Clyburn and these liars are telling them,
Starting point is 00:43:48 that Biden is our best candidate. Well, look, if he's our best candidate, the party is in shambles. I don't think that Biden is the best candidate. However, I can understand if a portion of those democratic respondents actually do think that or actually think that it's more of a risk to replace Biden with someone else. Total propaganda. I mean, look, if Biden continues running, he's gonna lose. That's a guarantee at this point, right?
Starting point is 00:44:17 To me, that is a guarantee. So why not take the risk, it's not really a risk of running someone that has a better chance of beating Trump. It's sure. I mean, one of the arguments is, oh, well, these governors that might take Biden's place don't have the name recognition. And the polling currently indicates that they wouldn't do so well. Well, yeah, the current polling has to do with candidates who don't have any national
Starting point is 00:44:42 name recognition because they're not currently running. They would have the opportunity to campaign and go out there and make a robust argument for themselves. But the DNC and the Democratic establishment is not allowing that to happen in order to protect Biden's precious ego and alleged legacy of a two-term president, which by the way, as things are going right now, he's not gonna get, he's not gonna be a two-term president. Guys, let me break that down super quick for you. So number one, if Biden steps down, you have a very normal convention where you have the delegates pick one of the nominees.
Starting point is 00:45:35 They fight it out like they would normally in a convention. And guess what? The strongest one will win. And then you'll have someone who's already battle tested. And on top of that, you'll get hundreds of millions of dollars in free media. Well, how about Biden's money? No problem. He can give it to a super pack and that super pack can give it to any candidate.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Exactly. of like, oh, my, oh, it'll be a mess if Biden is not the candidate. Mess how in terms of drawing more attention to the Democratic Party and its politicians and its policies? That's a giant upside. That's not a downside. Oh, well, it'll seem chaotic. So what?
Starting point is 00:46:10 Is politics supposed to be beautiful and pretty? I mean, if they go to a convention and they're making the case for, hey, my Democratic policies are better than your Democratic policies, we win because all they're hearing is too good Democratic policies. if you believe in the Democratic Party. If you say our policies suck, I don't want anybody to find them. Okay, you're going to lose anyway, right? So here's what people need to understand.
Starting point is 00:46:35 A lot of Blue Maga thinks, I love Joe Biden, so I'm sure he's going to win. I think Joe Biden is a sweet man, so I think he's going to win. I like his infrastructure bill. That's why I think he's going to, you don't understand what you think is totally irrelevant. What I think is totally irrelevant. What matters is what are the voters going to think? And they have a different perspective than you. They have a different perspective than me.
Starting point is 00:46:59 They have their own perspective, and they just told you what it was. Seven out of ten of them think his brain has fallen out. They're not going to vote for a guy who they think his brain is not functioning. That's obvious. If you can't see that, you're in a cult. Well, the Democrats are also planning to form nominate Joe Biden well before and way before the Democratic National Convention takes place in order to lock in Biden as the nominee and prevent the case of contested
Starting point is 00:47:33 convention. Now, a lot of people are arguing, no, no, no, no, they're planning on doing this anyway, but in order to ensure that Biden would be on the Ohio ballot. No, no, no, this is different. This is reported by Bloomberg News. And essentially what they're planning on doing is formally nominating Biden as soon as July 21st. Now the initial deadline for the Ohio ballot was all the way in August, August 7th, and they actually pushed that deadline back even further. The Democratic National Convention doesn't take place until late August, okay? So they're doing this in order to lock Biden in as the party's nominee and
Starting point is 00:48:13 avoid any attempts of swapping him out. So guys, we talked about this Ohio issue on Friday show, David Schuster brought it up. Watch Monday through Friday, 6 o'clock Eastern every day here, because we're covering all the issues that you need to know. And in that case, I said, hey, I'm going to go research that more. And I did over the weekend. So it turns out that was a real significant issue and why they needed to do the virtual roll call before the convention, because otherwise Biden or whoever the candidate is going to be would not be on the Ohio ballot. We're going to lose Ohio anyway, so it doesn't matter too much.
Starting point is 00:48:43 But it would have been very bad. Like it looks bad, right? But no, as Anna pointed out, I confirmed it, there's no question. Ohio, thank God, delayed that. So they don't need to do the virtual roll call at all. At this point, the only reason to do the virtual roll call is to steal the convention in favor of Biden before the convention even happens. Yeah. Because the delegates could do a rebellion.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I mean, imagine if Biden's brain falls out again and again and again. Every time he goes on TV, he's like, I defeated Medicare, now I'm going to defeat Social Security. You're like, no, no, no, no. And so at the convention, the delegates can rebel and go, we're not, I know we're supposed to, but we're not actually bound to, so we're going to pick another person, not Biden. Well, they can't do that if they steal it in the middle of the night with a virtual event, that's just in three weeks. Well, thankfully, the party that is protecting democracy would be the party doing this, right?
Starting point is 00:49:36 I mean, they see it with a straight face. And now today, there was an article about, hey, did you guys know that they, Florida, I didn't even have a Democratic primary? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I knew that. Right? It's amazing. It is, look, I think that there are Democratic voters across the country who are waking up to the farce of the Democratic Party and the allegations that they're the real protectors of our democratic process. Look, we've had issues with the Democratic establishment essentially squashing any real challenge to the status quo.
Starting point is 00:50:12 And that became abundantly clear in the primaries in 2016. But now more and more people are waking up to the reality of what's going on. And some are shocked, some are angry, others are falling in line because they're afraid of what the alternative is. But honestly, at this point, the alternative, okay, you might assume it's really, really bad. But what's worse? A vegetable running the country? And I think a lot of Americans who typically would vote for the Democratic candidate are asking themselves that question right now. And it is precisely the Democratic establishment who refuses to do the right thing here.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And demands that we all fall in line and support Biden, even though we all saw what we saw on that debate stage last Thursday. All right, last couple of things here. Number one, if you told me right now a random Democratic mayor or Joe Biden, I would definitely, definitely go with the random Democratic mayor sight unseen. Why? Because seven out of ten Americans think that his brain works. In fact, 10 out of 10 Americans think that any new candidate's brain would work.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And if you think I'm being too harsh in my language, guys, they said mentally and cognitively not healthy enough to be president. That just means we don't think his brain works well enough. Period. That's literally what it means, even though it's super uncomfortable to say. You have to be honest with yourself. So now thank you to Jamie Raskin who said, come on, guys. Of course we're talking about it behind the scenes about what we can do. He's the only Democrat that's acknowledged that.
Starting point is 00:51:38 And people are like, you shouldn't even acknowledge that. You should lie to the Americans and tell them that you're not even considering it because you're a moron. Okay, no, and he broke the ice on that. Andy Beshear, governor of Kentucky, today broke the ice on, well, here is my excellent record from Kentucky. And that's a big deal because now they're dipping their toe in, hey, am I going to get my head chopped off if I dare to dissent from the mad king?
Starting point is 00:52:02 And at this point, he definitely is the mad king. And now look, we did this petition and we're still doing it. And guys, if we get this to a monster number, that's another way that you could help. It's not a poll because now poll people say, I don't believe in any polls, right? So t.com slash campaign slash dropout, we'll have the link in the description box. Let's get that up to a monster number. And so that number's already way higher than it used to be. We'll get a new graphic for you guys.
Starting point is 00:52:29 But maybe that'll help push them in the right direction. But mainly what I want to say about that petition is, number one, to our core fans that stayed with us throughout and that pushed us to do petitions like that, that pushed me to go into the race against Biden because they knew that Biden was going to lose. Thank you. Thank you for being right all along. And thank you for having the courage of your convictions. Now, if you want to know, we've been through a lot of different fights in TYT history, right? You've seen people attack us. You've seen all the drama, blah, blah, blah. And they always say like one minute into it. Oh, yeah, yeah. Turkish audience is leaving. Never true, never, ever, ever true. Okay. But when you criticize a Democratic president, yes, you lose a portion of your audience. It happened under Obama, and now it's happened under Biden. That actually did affect us. To all the people who left, thinking that we were against the Democratic Party and we were going to help Trump win, do you see now that we were trying to warn you? We were right all along. The people actually going to cause the defeat to Donald Trump is Joe Biden and his team.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Yeah, the power hungry, you know, egomaniacs who will want power at any and all costs, even if it means sacrificing the country. So what the, what Democratic leadership is trying to get you to believe is the exact opposite of the democratic idea, the idea for the party, which is it does, don't believe you're lying eyes and ears, only listen to leadership. And if anybody criticizes leadership or authority, they're a heretic. And you should say they're trying to help the other side. No, the democratic ideal is, of course we don't defer to authority.
Starting point is 00:54:08 We don't obey for the sake of obeying. We need to make rational decisions so we could win and save democracy. We all got to get on the same team right now. Joe Biden has a 0% chance of winning. We must, must get another Democratic candidate to oppose Trump. Otherwise, we're just literally handing him the election. We'll be back with some viewer feedback on this story and more. We return.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And I know what I call preparation overload is a cycle. All right, back on TYT, first of all, thank you to all these new people that became members at TYT.com slash team. Our team, born 59, metal turtle, bear 420, Tanji 1 Jamanji. You guys are awesome, we appreciate you guys. Speaking of our great members, here's a couple comments from t.yt.com from the members. Lady Yack says, I'm just so disappointed in the Democrats, thank you. Thank you for finally realized, not you saying finally, I don't know when you realize it. But for anyone that finally realize, they don't have your best interest in mind.
Starting point is 00:55:22 They have their best interest in mind. That doesn't mean the Republicans are better. It doesn't mean we don't have to defeat the Republicans, we do have to defeat Trump and the Republicans. And in order to do that, you have to have the best candidate, not the worst candidate. And so, Dragon with a Girl tattoo with a funny comment, kind of combining both topics, is expanding the Supreme Court and official act? Well, hey, listen, it's an official act.
Starting point is 00:55:44 You can't look into it. I just made the Supreme Court 27 people instead of nine people. What are you going to do now? So it's a little bit, you know, tongue in cheek. Well, it's a lot tongue in cheek, but you get it. And then one last one here from Camp Corona Dad, two things about Biden's excuses. One, blame everyone else for his failures. Sounds like Hillary.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Two, he was overworked and underrested. He's the president of the United States. That's the job, right? If you can't handle a 90 minute debate, you're going to be able to figure out how to do all of the policy, foreign policy and domestic policy we have without missing a beat. Get out of here, man. I don't know that he's even looking at any policy anymore.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I don't know that he can understand it. The electricians on Twitch makes a good point. What happened to buck stops here? Now all of a sudden that Dr. Jill Biden is in charge. Buck stops there, buck stops there, buck stops there, okay? But never at Jill Biden or Joe Biden. And then I want to thank P.D. Walman and Odin, even Odin's part of the TYT team now.
Starting point is 00:56:48 They just joined by hitting the join button below. We appreciate you guys. Alison, Donnelly and Jesse gifted five Young Turks memberships, Chaplain Fred gifted 10. You guys are the best of the best. We appreciate you. We're going to take a real quick break here. We're going to come back. We're going to talk about how the Biden team is ironically using Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 00:57:05 That and a lot more when we return.

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