The Young Turks - Autopsy Outrage - May 21, 2026

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

New details from the Democrats’ post-election autopsy are fueling fresh backlash over the party’s failures, messaging problems, and growing disconnect with voters as infighting intensifies after devastating losses. Meanwhile, Itamar Ben-Gvir is facing outrage after publicly flaunting the treatment of Gaza flotilla activists, adding to mounting international scrutiny over Israel’s conduct during the conflict. TYT also features an interview with Shaiel Ben-Ephraim Thanks to today's sponsors: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at shopify.com/tyt Get 40% OFF the Ground News Vantage Plan when you sign up at ground.news/tyt Stay informed without the media spin at ground.news/tyt Go to cookunity.com/tyt or enter code TYT before checkout to get 50% off your first order. Use less data, get paid by switching to Noble Mobile: https://go.tyt.com/getnoble Hosts: Ana Kasparian, Cenk Uygur SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞  https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK  ☞   https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER  ☞       https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM  ☞  https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK  ☞          https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH  ☞      https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to the Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Welcome to our trash revolution. I'm so upset. Oh my God. The guy. The Turks, Jank you, Granikas, sparing with you guys. Obviously, a great show ahead.

So we do have the DNC autopsy. We do have detainees being tortured in Israel because, of course. By the way, detainees from Western countries who are just trying to get humanitarian aid to the Palestinian people who are purposely being starved in Gaza. So like if you attack the Israelis, you're a terrorist, if you diplomacy, you're a terrorist. If you try to feed the people they're starving to death, you're a terrorist. So anyways, we'll get to that. But we do have an Israeli on the show.

Yes, we do. A wonderful, wonderful person, his name is Shail. And I believe he's one of the sources that Nick Christoph spoke to in order to, write that incredible piece about the Palestinian hostages who are being sexually abused by IDF soldiers. And he's going to give us some clarity on why it is that even though we have video evidence of IDF soldiers abusing a Palestinian, all of those individual, all charges were dropped against them.

How did that happen? How did that happen? He's going to explain how. Yeah, and last thing, there's other stories too, but a fun one, Jeff Bezos tells us not to be populist. Oh, okay, we'll take it under advisement. Let's share that story with you a little bit later. Okay, Anna. Well, why don't we begin with the DNC's autopsy? Because if this is what they're going to lean into to make improvements to win elections, the Democrats are in a lot of trouble. So let's get into it. Following the unrelenting pressure, DNC chair, Ken Martin

finally released an incomplete version of the so called 2024 election autopsy. And it's missing one enormous topic, Jank. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's missing Gaza. That's so weird, but don't worry, we'll explain. Anna. In fact, if you just do a quick word search of what they did release, here are the words that will not appear in the autopsy.

A-PAC, ceasefire, foreign policy, Gaza, genocide, Israel, Palestine. Palestine, even though the autopsy is almost 200 pages long. Yeah, I mean, they just couldn't fit it in, you know, it has nothing to do with their largest donors being pro Israel. But they didn't even look into it. Like there wasn't even a factor. But I'll tell you what I think is a real autopsy for the DNC after we tell you the receipts on this one. Yes. So by the way, there's a few other things that I want to mention issues that do not appear in the 2024 election DNC autopsy, Joe Biden's decision to run for reelection. I mean guys, guys, I mean, even if you're a loyalist to Israel and you don't care that the

autopsy didn't touch on something that obviously hurt the Democratic Party in the 2024 election, fine, put that aside. You can't take this autopsy seriously when it makes no mention of Joe Biden's decision to run for reelection. When his brain had not, melted already. Okay. Also, the anointing of Kamala Harris without a competitive primary, which really bothered me. I don't know if it bothered most Democratic voters, but for me it was a big deal because the saving grace for the Democratic Party, despite all the mistakes that were being made, was the fact that they valued the will of the people and weren't trying to throw elections, rig elections, steal elections, they wanted to save democracy. And then they lie to the

American people about Biden's mental health and then annoyate Kamala Harris without giving us an opportunity to weigh in on it at all. Yeah, they've got four out of the top 10 and arguably the top three on my list. They didn't even touch. Then how are you going to find out what you did wrong if you go, okay, now we're not allowed to talk about the things we did wrong. So let's do an autopsy on what we did wrong. That's hilarious. So let's get into what is included in the autopsy. And look, it was released today. I read as much of it as I could and what I noticed is they were very hands off when it came to Kamala Harris's mistakes, in my opinion, from what I've read.

But let's get to some specific details. So the report blames the Biden team for not glazing Kamala Harris enough. They don't use the word glazing, I'm just trying to communicate in a way that people speak these days. The national campaign- Thank you, Anne. You're welcome. The national campaign did not effectively drive Trump's negatives, really? And the White House did not effectively support.

Vice President Harris over three and a half years to improve her standing before the candidate switch. Well, that's because Biden had no intention to step aside and allow her to run for president. He was planning to run for reelection all along. So why would he set her up to do well? Yeah. To be fair, it goes further than that. So he threw her under the bus throughout. Totally. Like the idea that they weren't negative enough against Trump is comical, right? I mean, They've learned nothing and this autopsy is a perfect symbol of the Democratic Party and how clueless they are today. But on the other hand, Kamala Harris did not get much support for three and a half years from Biden. True.

And then he made her not the border czar, but something that sounded like the border czar. Hold on, hold on. So look, he did name her his border czar. And there's evidence of that. There are literally compilation videos of various Democratic operatives and media, people referring to Kamala Harris as the borders are. Look, he set her up for failure. Obviously, solving the issue of immigration is a very difficult task. And the vice president really has no power. We have to confess that's the reality of the situation, right? I mean,

the real purpose of the vice president is to serve as president if something actually happens to Joe Biden or whoever is president at the time. And also to be the tiebreaking vote if it's necessary in the Senate. And so just naming someone borders are without really, without, with knowing that that person doesn't even have the power to do anything about it, again, sets her up for failure. But I don't want anyone to mistake what I'm saying as, oh, I'm giving Kamala Harris a pass. I know that she only had three months to run a campaign, but she was not a great candidate,

for other reasons that we'll get into. Yeah. The report accuses Harris of taking too much for granted. So Harris wrote off rural America, assuming urban-sla suburban margins, would compensate. Look, that is a fair critique. Behind every F-35 jet is a Canadian company. Horizontal tails built in Winnipeg, engine sensors from Ottawa, and stealth composite panels crafted in Loonberg to name just a few.

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entirely after the first month of campaigning. And that was because you had all of these, you know, billionaires, whether it's Mark Cuban or that Reid Hoffman guy, you know, she would say something that sounds vaguely, maybe populist, and then they would jump in and be like, no, no, no, no, no, she's gonna go in a completely different direction. She hates Lena Khan. She's definitely not going to hire Lena Khan to serve in her administration,

for sure, for sure. Yeah, so, and they kept bragging about how 90 corporate CEOs backed her. It was a disastrous idea. Look, I have number one on my list. is Biden's ego, that's why we lost. So there's nine to ten other ones that are super important. But Biden's ego affected it in that he had dementia, was in the mid-30s, and polling, had no chance of winning, but he wouldn't get out of the race.

But also because of what he did to Kamala Harris, he put her in charge of the border full while knowing that that was the least popular position that they had. This was all left over this. It's not even Joe Biden. It was Jill Biden who hated Kamala Harris for that one time that she challenged Biden during a debate. And she's like, ha ha, let's screw over the vice president. But the vice president might have to run for office.

So what are you torpedoing your own vice president for you, ego maniacs? You like totally out of control. And then he demanded loyalty from Kamala Harris after she was named and became the candidate. But that's an albatross around her neck. It absolutely was. So Biden's ego sunk this campaign more than anything else. And the fact that they didn't even look into, it shows you what asked kissers, the leadership of the Democratic Party are that they just cannot be honest and they won't

ever represent the voters until we get a candidate that totally cleans house in there. And so, but there's even more. So you know, Biden named Kamala Harris after his initial post saying that he's stepping down. He wasn't supposed to, Pelosi, him, and Obama had a deal where Pelosi and Obama were shockingly correct. They're like, let's have some sort of truncated primary, because they knew that Kamala Harris couldn't do the job and Biden decided to screw them over and go, ha ha, you want to push me out? I'll give you the worst possible candidate. That's right, that's right. Because both him and Dr. Jill Biden are the top three egot maniacs in the country

along with Donald Trump. And they purposely sank the Democratic Party after decades of talking about unity and how you have to listen and be vote blue no matter who. And they're like, oh yeah, let's give him Trump again. After telling us that Trump would destroy the country, country, they helped Trump to win the election. I got more on Kamala and others later, but that was number one. So this one, all right, let me read this and then you tell me what you think, because I'm not really sure how I feel about it. I've been thinking about it a lot today.

The Harris campaign appears to have relied on Trump being unacceptable rather than building an affirmative case for Harris. No, actually I do agree with this entirely. Base voters needed reasons to vote for Harris as well as against Trump. I think that that's completely right. I think the Democratic Party has always seen Donald Trump as an unacceptable politician or candidate. And they have leaned too heavily into attacking him without really giving Americans something to vote for. I mean, we've been saying this guy since 2016, starting with Hillary Clinton's campaign.

We get that Trump bad. We get it, we get it, okay? Democratic voters are already there. But remember, you're trying to appeal to independent voters. And we just had four years of Biden's administration where inflation was an issue. The border was an issue. There's all sorts of issues. So Kamala Harris, give us something to vote for.

How are you going to be different? What is the experience going to be under your administration versus the Biden administration? And yeah, you want to do attack ads against Trump? That's fine. But at the end of the day, you've got to give people in the middle or the independent voters a reason to support you. Otherwise, they're not going to show up to the polls. Yeah. And in this case, they actually thought Trump's, you know, campaigning was more effective and they showed up to vote for him overwhelmingly. Yeah, so look, at this point,

if you haven't figured out that Trump bad is not enough for to get a vote. I mean, you're just hopeless, right? And will they run a similar campaign next time if an establishment Democrat is the candidate? Of course, absolutely. Whoever it is that they're running against, they'll say, that person bad, make no, now wait, we have deeply popular policies. You look at populaceplank.com, those are all left-wing democratic policies, all of them pull over two-thirds. So where's the question? Why don't you run an affirmative campaign saying, I'm for paid family leave.

I'm with 84% of Americans who want moms to take 12 weeks off after they have a baby, right? Well, you don't run that campaign because 90 corporate CEOs are on your side, and they told you to never do any of the policies that you state. and in fact they will bribe you to make sure that you don't do any of your popular policies. And then afterwards you're like, I don't know why we lost. We didn't emphasize any of our popular policies. I mean, if you're going to be literally that stupid, it's not, that's how you, and guys, they didn't just lose to like an amazing politician.

They lost to a guy that is barely double digits in IQ. And a guy who is deeply, deeply corrupt, one of the most corrupt men in American history, they lost to him anyway. That's what happens when you purposely run the most miserable campaigns you could possibly imagine. Right. So okay, I'm gonna skip ahead a little bit. We're not gonna get into every nook and cranny of the report. But the part that I thought was well done for the most part was, hey, you need to move away

from identity politics and focus on economic messaging. And that's exactly right, I'm sorry. The identitarian stuff divides people. It fractures the Democratic base. It makes them obsessed with how different they are or how they should be treated differently than other groups of people. It's just, it's not helpful. When you focus on economic issues, you're focusing on improving the lives of everyone.

That is an appealing message. And that's essentially what they're trying to say here. So, and they also say male voters require direct engagement. The gender gap can be narrowed, deploy mail messengers, address economic, concerns and don't assume identity politics will will hold male voters of color. And that was demonstrably true in the last presidential election, right? Where you had a larger share of black male voters, unfortunately voting for Donald Trump. And so the identity politics that Barack Obama engaged in and trying to essentially, I don't

know, like bully black young men into voting for Kamala Harris, that didn't work. In fact, that came across as incredibly insulting. Yeah, look, so I'm gonna get into my autopsy in a second, but it could also be summarized in the establishment hates real voters. So they run campaigns based on what they like rather than what the voters want. And it's not complicated. In fact, I'll prove that to you right now. So first off, to Anna's point, there's a poll that just came out. Do you think that the Democratic Party should move further left or towards the center?

Now, people always ask that question in a nonsensical way. wait, what do you mean left, right? So this poll, on the other hand, did a good job, to be fair to them, and it's New York Times-Cyana poll, and they broke it down. Move to the left in general, only 25% said move to the left. 18% said don't move in either direction. And 52% said move to the center. But wait, on which issues? That's important. Right. So on crime, they said, don't move to the left, move to the center. On immigration, don't move to the left, move to the center. On economic issues, wait a minute, now totally split, right? And it depends on what you mean by left.

That's a little bit more complicated, but economic populism does poll well. So now that's very different than the other issues. Transgender issues, don't move left, move to the center. And by the way, a lot of them say keep where you are, okay? Finally, this is the most important one. On health care, it says move to the left, move to the left, go to the left. Okay? Now, why? Why? Because all the different categories we read to you where Democratic voters say don't

move to the left are culture war issues. They're like we don't want, I got it, I got it on the culture wars. I'm done with it. I don't want you to move further left, okay? Economic issues, yes, for God's sake move further left because we're getting nothing. So now two more things to back it up, New York Times. More than 80% of the party's backers thought the political and economic system should be torn down entirely or needed major changes. And nearly 90% called the economic system unfair. I jump in it. Now see, if you said to a cable news anchor, hey, should we tear down the system entirely?

Who thinks that? They would say, radical left, maybe 2% of the population, very unpopular, right? And the real number is 80%. The people in Washington and on television are not connected to real human beings at all. They're all elitists, they have no idea what's going on. Okay, now this is the one that's gonna really get it under their skin. Nearly three quarters of Democratic supporters now oppose military aid to Israel up from 45% three years ago.

So I was literally talking to a TV producer right before I came on the show, and they were like, well, don't you think that this is gonna, you know, cause the Democratic Party to become more unpopular? I'm like, why? 75% is popular. And 61% of the country says we shouldn't give any military aid to Israel anymore and that they have a negative view of Israel. So how would it be unpopular to be popular? But in their minds, they're like, must serve Israel, must serve Israel, must serve corporate donors, right? Well, that's why you're losing. So can I just jump in because Rokana just posted this on X. And I'm gonna be honest with you guys, after for 2024, my distaste for the Democratic Party overall grew so significantly that I just,

I didn't want to listen to Democrats, I don't want to hear Democrats. By the way, I've never, you know, been a fan of the Republican Party either. So I was just kind of floating in no man's land and just very cynical about all politicians. But Roe-Connor has really grown on me, mostly because of the fact that he is willing to get the job done. And if that means working with someone like Marjorie Taylor Green to get the Epstein files released, or Thomas Massey to get the Epstein files released, he will do it because getting those files released is more important than signaling his purity in denying Marjorie, Taylor Green,

or Massey in doing this type of work. Now with that said, here's what he said about the DNC autopsy, and this is why he's growing on me. There is not a single mention of Gaza in the 192 page DNC autopsy report. As someone who campaigned in Michigan and Wisconsin, let me tell you, one of the main reasons we lost was our blank check to Israel while they committed genocide. Our party must put human rights first. Yeah.

That's the right statement. That's the right statement. Yeah. And by the way, both Rokane and Tom Massey have talked about this. Why weren't there more Democrats involved in trying to get the Epstein files released in the beginning? Especially when they all voted for it eventually. So why weren't they all there in the beginning? Because in the beginning, they all insisted that it be partisan and that they only

talk about Trump and the Republicans. I didn't know that. And Roe Kana said, no, no, we're gonna release all of the files. We're not gonna make it partisan and we have to reach out to the other side and have a real coalition. He dragged the entire party over to there, which wound up helping Democrats a lot, right? It hurt Trump a lot, but they had to be dragged there kicking and screaming. That's crazy.

Wow. Okay. So now, look, let me do my real autopsy for you guys, because it give you a sense of what they could have done instead. So number one on my, you'd be surprised where Gaza is, by the way, on my list. So number one is Biden's ego, I explained it already. Number two is Kamala Harris was a terrible candidate. They didn't even talk about that.

She couldn't speak in clear sentences. If you can't speak in clear sentences, you're going to lose the election, right? I mean, we were just ignoring this giant elephant in the room. Number three, they didn't have any real primary. They would push out any candidate that had any chance of winning and it'd an anoint the worst possible candidate. If you don't have competition to see who your best candidate is, you're going to pick a bad candidate. Number four is they wouldn't do the huge podcast interviews. Well, you're literally giving up hundreds of millions of dollars in free media because you're saying,

I'm so unpopular that if I spoke to people for an hour or three hours, they would like me less. So I'm just not even going to talk to that. Well, then you shouldn't be the candidate. Period, period, period, period, period. If you're going to get away hundreds or millions, maybe billions of dollars in free media because you're worried you're too incompetent to run and too unlikable, then don't run. And we definitely shouldn't pick you. Number five, Harris kept bragging about the corporate CEOs that were on her side.

And she ditched all over economically populist policies that were really popular in the beginning. And that actually she took the lead with those policies and with Tim Walls. And then she dropped them because of the moronic consultants who told her no, Americans love corporate CEOs. Number five, she kept, sorry, that was five. Six is she should have pointed out that Trump's a warmonger and all of his backers wanted him to support Israel's wars. Instead, she's like, I love Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney. I'm the real warmonger. Oh, you idiot.

That was deeply problematic. Number seven was the border. Number eight is the culture war issues. I have embracing Israel all the way down at number nine because not because it's not important but because the other eight were so monumentally important. Yeah, they are, they were, absolutely. So but yes, that was she purposely chose the unpopular position on Israel because her donors demanded that she hurt her campaign to support Israel over Democratic voters' actual positions.

Finally, listening to any Democratic consultant will get you a loss. Get them out. Yeah, those Democratic consultants have, are utterance. losers, they've lost almost every major election and they just keep getting rehired and re-hired, oh, what moronic opinion do you have for me? So, and I threw it a bonus one on social media. Number 11 is, go to a cocktail party in Washington, listen to what everyone is saying, and do the exact opposite.

Because if you listen to what they're saying, you're gonna lose. Yeah. They have no idea how elitist they are and how unbearable they are and how their opinions are diametrically opposed to the opinions of the American people. We're about to do an incredible interview. So Jake, the second half of this, maybe you can do during the revolution. But right now, we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we have an incredible guest to talk to us about how cases of IDF soldiers

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All right, well, let me just do a quick intro before we bring on our guests, because I want everyone to really fully understand what we're discussing here today. So here at TYT, we've been doing extensive coverage of the war crimes carried out by the Israelis and the Gaza Strip and Lebanon, and in other parts of the Middle East.

But one of the issues that's been difficult, really difficult to talk about is the sexual abuse against Palestinians carried out by IDF soldiers in some of these Israeli prisons. Now many of these Palestinians are detained and never charged with anything. And if they ever see a day in court, it's usually through military courts where

they're better described as kangaroo courts. But while they are detained with no charges, Oftentimes they suffer abuse, including sexual abuse. And we saw footage of several IDF soldiers sexually abusing a Palestinian man. That footage, that evidence was floating around the internet. And then we later find out that the IDF soldiers had all of their charges dropped against them after members of, you know, the Israeli society started protesting the very notion that they would suffer any criminal charges for what they did. Then we start hearing this gaslighting about how you didn't see what you actually saw with

your own two eyes. That's not what was shown in the video. If you've watched the video, that is what you see in the video. So here to explain how the charges got dropped, how this story got buried in Israel is a wonderful person who have a lot of respect for. His name is Shail Ben Ephraim. He was an IDF soldier himself, but has since become a bit of a whistleblower. He's a geopolitical analyst and I welcome him on the show right now.

Thank you for joining us, Shail. Thank you so much for having me. So I came across your post on X where you were detailing how that story and more importantly how those charges were dropped. Like what was the pressure campaign behind the scenes? And I thought it was so enlightening. So I'm just gonna go to you right now and explain to us what happened after that video footage was released and everyone knew it was going on.

So the judicial system in Israel thought that this was a very strong case because there was a complaint, there was physical evidence, there was a checkup by doctors, and all of that. We've since discovered that one of the reasons this complaint reached the judicial levels is because the guards there thought that the wounds had been inflicted by another Palestinian inmate. Once they learned that it was actually Israeli guards that did it and that that had been corroborated by the doctor they had sent this person to be checked by, there was panic in the Israeli system. And while the judicial arm continued to try to pursue it, the political and security arm tried to destroy it. Israel Katz came out and said that it was a blood libel. There were demonstrations against it. There was a pressure campaign to bury the charges from the defense minister and from the prime minister and from the chief of staff. The main prosecutor of the army was alarmed by this and tried to release the video to the media, which he did successfully.

that's why you've seen it. It was not the policy of Israel to release that video. She did it on her own recognizance to Channel 12 in Israel. To my surprise, aired it. Then she was fired from her job for releasing that. There was an entire unclear episode where she threatened to commit suicide, left the suicide note. So it's unclear if she really wanted to commit suicide. If there were plans to kill her off, she was found.

before she could commit suicide. She's since disappeared in the sense that she's not talking to the public. She's supposedly alive and safe. And Netanyahu and the defense minister have since said that it's fantastic that the charges were dropped. They called the families of the accused and said that their sons are heroes. And that was the end of that. And this is one of the very few cases where there was even a mind. investigation. Oh, and another thing. Once the investigation started, the suspect who had been

abused was released to Gaza so that he could not give any testimony. And that was the official reason that the investigation was dropped because they had no one to give testimony. The Israeli authorities also tried to swap out the doctor's report for another doctor who was more sympathetic, who actually hadn't seen the individual because the individual was already gone. And he said that nothing had happened to him and he hadn't suffered any damage without seeing the patient. So we actually have two different medical reports out, one from a doctor who's seen him, who said that there was an attempt to rape him. And another from a doctor who said nothing happened to him who hadn't seen him. So before I go to you, Jank, for a question, I just want to read what the Wall Street Journal had reported about this man's injuries.

He had life-threatening injuries, including broken ribs, obvious signs of assault to the abdomen and chest, and a severe injury to the the rectum most likely caused by the insertion of a foreign object, one of the medical staffers said. It was pretty horrifying. It's just setting the bar so low that I don't know how we can deteriorate more morally. This is a medical staffer saying this about the Palestinian detainee. I was aware things like that could happen, but I've never witnessed anything like that. So I just wanted people to understand what was really going on. Go ahead, Jane. Yeah, so Shail, I want to talk to you about the different sectors of the Israeli government society, et cetera, in a minute.

But first, the obvious question. Once you very publicly released these guys who did the rape on tape, and it's not like people can't see it, they can see it with their own eyes, what do you think are the consequences of that? Is that basically a giant green light, a de facto way for the government to say abuse the detainees in every imaginable and unimaginable ways? and there will be no consequences. Yeah, there's absolutely no question about that.

The Israeli government was alarmed that any of this came out to begin with. What they want is completely part blanche for the guards to do whatever they want to the detainees. I know from talking to guards at Tietamand that this particular incident was not all that severe in relation to other. Like I said, it was a comedy of errors that led to the fact that this was released because they thought that it was another inmate who did it. Otherwise, they never would have released it. So all that Israel wants is to silence this as much as possible. And that, of course, means that guards are allowed to do this. And some of the guards who were involved have become celebrities.

Some went on shows with their masks on, but some went without their masks on. And some have Instagram accounts that have been growing in popularity and talk all the time about killing Arabs and committing war crimes and how great it is. They become celebrities. It's incentivized to do these things. They are considered heroes that very few people consider what they did to be wrong because there's two schools of thought in Israel. One is they weren't doing anything. And the other is they're terrorists so they deserve it. But either way, it's it's completely allowed.

It's encouraged. The only thing we don't know is are there orders coming in to do this? Like Christoph said in his article that he found no evidence that there's an order to do these things. We know for sure that no one is stopping it, which gives them an incentive. I wouldn't be surprised that there are orders coming in from somewhere. I mean, Ben Kivir basically gave the order publicly to make their lives as terrible as possible. That's what he said detainees should should be treated as badly as possible. But he didn't specify, we don't know what the specifications are.

But at the very least, they're allowing guards to do whatever they want to detainees. Yeah, I just want to explain to the audience. There really is no functional difference between saying abuse these detainees and we will not punish you if you abuse these detainees. Same exact thing. So you could say, no, murder is technically illegal, but we're not going to punish anyone who does murder. Robberies illegal, but we're not going to punish anyone who does robberies. you're gonna have nonstop robberies. Same thing for rape.

And in this case, this is literally rape. They say we will not punish anyone. In fact, we will celebrate the people who raped the detainees. And by the way, you know, oh, they're terrorists or they had it coming. No, tons and tons of the detainees are random hostages that the Israelis have picked up. No one has it coming, okay? Even terrorists. No one has it coming.

You don't get to rape people in prison because you consider them terrorists or they are terrorists or they are criminals. Like it's wrong, period, it's wrong, it's wrong. it's wrong to abuse people like that. And Ben Gavir, of all, people should agree with that since Ben Gavir is a convicted terrorist supporter. So if he were to be imprisoned in Israel, according to the Israeli logic, he should be raped. So I want to get a better understanding of Israeli society, because we don't live in Israel, and I want to just understand the culture a little better, because you talk about how it's kind of bifurcated when it comes to the reaction or response to this particular incident.

You have half of the people you say who acknowledge what happened and they justify it or they celebrate it and you have these alleged rapists being celebrated as celebrities. And then the other half are either pretending to be ignorant about it or are genuinely ignorant about it. I think it didn't happen at all. I know I said half, half, but it's probably not half half. Like what portion of society genuinely doesn't believe it, right? And if they did believe it, then they would be against it. Because I really need to know that. I want to know how many people, what percentage of Israeli society thinks that this kind of behavior is justified?

Yeah, it's very hard to answer that question because so many of the people who are saying that it didn't happen, know that it happened. And that's why it's very difficult. I think I can speak for myself that when all these abuses started coming out, I didn't believe that they were real because I was conditioned to. who believe that Israel was a flawed country, but there were red lines that it wouldn't cross. I very quickly discovered that that was not true as more and more evidence came out. I think that a lot of Israelis knew before I did because they were involved in the army and the security forces and those that aren't that weren't and knew later are already inundated by so many facts, but they are denying it for for tactical reasons. So I,

I would say the vast majority of Israelis think that the detainees did something wrong and deserve it. And think that even the ones that are picked up that they can't prove something are most likely terrorists. And even the ones who aren't terrorists, this is a deterrent to prevent them from doing October 7th again. I truly believe that the vast majority of Israelis in their hearts think that this is true. And I've heard some of my friends who vote merits and other parties, some of my close friends, say, look, if they did it to people who did October 7th, it's not a big deal. And this is the left. Wow. And I've seen people on the right glorify it and say that that's what they deserve.

So there's different shades of thinking that it's okay. There's some people think it's regrettable, but that's what happens in jails. Like I've heard that. That's the most sort of left-wing thing I've heard from actual Zionists is, well, it's very bad that this happens. But every jail, there's rapes and there's abuses. I've heard some Zionists say that. So that's the spectrum. There's different forms of justification.

But the only people are really against it tend to be anti-Zionists and Arabs. There's very few Zionists who are against it. All right. So let's break it down a little bit more. So Israeli society and government has a lot of different components, say that you have the judiciary, the cabinet and the press, these are all different, right? So the government right now is as hard right wing as you possibly get. There's not much dispute about that among rational people.

But the judiciary often does well, not in regards to settlers or the idea of where they just run total kangaroo military courts that are a total joke or towards the Palestinians. But inside Israel, Ben Gavir was convicted of supporting terrorism. There were real corruption charges against Netanyahu, and the Israeli court system before has worked. And the press sometimes gives us some of our best reporting on what's happened in Gaza, and far better than American press. Not all of it, but Heretz and 972 and others.

So, okay, so it felt Shirelle like there was some foothold. for rationality and decency to make a comeback, right? Secularism to make a comeback in Israel. But it feels like that's getting chipped away at every single day. And we might be at a critical moment here where we're past the tipping point. That's what we're worried about. What's your sense of that? Yeah, you raise some very good points.

There is a liberal Israel or there was a liberal Israel based around parties like merits and labor, based around the universities, like Hebrew University, and the Supreme Court had a lot of justices that came out of that tradition. Like Aron Barack in particular is a notable judge of that school of thought that stressed the importance of human rights and secularism, mostly within Israel, like you said, and not so much in the territories, although occasionally in the territories. But even that very partial liberalism is dying. There's been a very concentrated attack on it. You might remember before October 7th, there were all these judicial reforms that there was an attempt to pass. And that was a targeted pinpoint attack at those elements of Israeli society. And then while at war, this extreme right-wing government has made very big inroads towards it.

Now they're going to appoint one of their own as the Supreme Court justice, which is going to be a death knell to all that. I've had friends who've attended some of these Supreme Court hearings, and members of Knesset go in there and intimidate them and yell at the just. justices, if they dare say anything in favor of detainees or in favor of Palestinian rights, that they're terrorists and that this is why the Supreme Court needs to be dissolved. And there's protests in front of the houses of justices, sometimes threats on their lives. There's a real sense of intimidation on anyone who's liberal. And it's dragging the courts more and more to the right. They're essentially becoming rubber stamps of the government.

And as the government puts in more and more right-wing justices, that's always going to continue. So that kind of liberal element of the Israeli judicial system is eroding and will probably die. And the changes in the demographics in Israel are going to exacerbate that process even more. I was going to ask you about that because I mean a few weeks ago, I was flying home from a trip I was on. And there were two people, a couple sitting right in front of me. And they turned around and thanked me for the work I do. I was like, oh, thank you, thank you. And then they said they're Israeli and I was kind of shocked.

But I think that they're probably Israelis who left Israel because there has been, just based on anecdotal evidence, I might be wrong, that's why I'm asking you. It appears that there's been almost like a flight of, you know, the types of people who think the way we think, you know, that that would see a rape on camera and find it like shockingly immoral and would want consequences for it. So would you say that there, that a lot of Israelis since October 7th have left. Israel and those tend to be people have political views more in line with decency? Yes, there's been a brain drain from Israel of the most educated people with PhDs, high tech,

doctors, people like that who it's easy for them to leave the country and do well. They tend to be not always, but disproportionately liberal. A lot of them left before October 7th. There's always been a big community of people like that here in California, where I am and in New York. And in Berlin, there's a big community. But since October 7th, that has increased. There's very few people I know with opinion similar to mine who think that Israel has a future. Some of them stay for various reasons, relatives, or they're not used to it, or they're English or whatever.

But there's been a turning point in the last year or two where very few people think that the future is going to be good. Because not only are there all these elements of fascism rising, the same way we see in the United States. But unlike the United States, there's a sense of hopeless demography behind it. When liberal elites are leaving and the ultra-Orthodox and the settlers are having more children, that ultimately leads to a deep change in the fabric of the country. And those who are younger who would be maybe liberal in the past are going through an education system that's very nationalist and very extreme. So if you look at the polls of young voters, they're much more right-wing than the older voters are. And the older voters are pretty right wing.

So we're really looking at a situation that a lot of liberal Israelis consider to be hopeless. And so a lot of liberal Israelis like myself are moving towards more anti-Zionism. And a lot of them are thinking about how to leave the country if they haven't left already. So let me follow up on that. How much do liberal Jews and Israel feel pressure? Like it reminds me of other genocides where, you know, the good Germans, the good Turks, whoever they might be, the good Serbs would be shunned or shamed or, or imprisoned or in other ways outcasts.

Is that happening in Israel? Well, traditionally, there's a surprising amount of tolerance towards the Israeli left. There used to be demonstrations, newspapers, parties. They were seen as traitors or nudge jobs, but there wasn't a lot of violence towards them and that sort of thing. That's changing. Now people who go to anti-war demonstrations or even anti-Denialo demonstrations received death threats. and are feeling increasingly uncomfortable. They're getting beaten up by the police.

Occasionally they're being arrested for what they post on social media. This is just starting. It's just starting because this is not the traditional Israeli way. The traditional Israeli way is if you're a Jew, you can have sort of whatever opinion you want. But that's really changing. It's nowhere near as bad as it's been in other genocides yet. But that's a matter of time.

I think that this current government still has remnants of the old approach. Netanyahu was an Israeli born in, you know, 1948. But people like Ben-Gvier, whom I believe will end up being prime minister, or someone like him will end up being prime minister, are going to crack down on freedom of speech. So this is a process that's starting for Jews as well.

We're seeing attacks also on those that go to the territories to help protect Palestinians. But usually if you're sitting at home expressing your opinion, it's not so bad, but that's starting to change. So last two things here. To give us a sense of what percentages, and again, I know these are rough, right, of Israelis these days are religious fundamentalists. War percentage are just nationalist, like Zionists, secular, but Israel above all, right? And then what percentage are what we would traditionally call liberal left, care about human rights,

say maybe two-state solution, that type of thing? Well, I'm going to look at the Jewish population because the Arab population doesn't really fall into those categories. Yeah, it falls into completely different categories. So among the Jews, I would say somewhere between 30 and 40 percent are religious enough that really influences their political outlook. And that's going to rise to 50 percent within the next few years. They combine the sort of the borders that are very porous between them and the nationalist Zionists, who the typical Zionists put security first above all, and that includes some of the religious people. That's probably about, I don't know, 50, 60%. And then actual liberal people who have liberal ideals also towards the Palestinians are 10%, something like that. Now, there's more people than that who think that they're liberal because they believe in a more secular tolerant country inside Israel. And they don't like Ben-Givir and they don't like Netanyahu. But a lot of them really do. don't care what happens to the Palestinians.

That's an increasing amount of the people vote against Netanyahu and demonstrate against Netanyahu really don't care what happens in Gaza and what happens in the West Bank. So those who actually care are 10% and probably dropping. So last question is about the diaspora. Because it feels like a lot of the Jews across the world who support Israel have been taught that that's part of their identity and it's important and all Jews are going to be killed if it's not Israel, et cetera, but I think that they still have a romanticized version of Israel in their head where, kibbutz, and we go and Tel Aviv is nice, and it's wonderfully moral and relatively

liberal and a westernized democracy, et cetera. And they don't have any sense of how radical religious and right wing Israel has gone. But I'm just guessing, so that's why I'm asking you. So do you think that's relatively right? And is that causing a huge problem because they're accidentally enabling the worst right-wing instincts of the current government and society of Israel? There's some of that ignorance, but I think a lot of it is just cognitive dissonance. Everyone sees what Israel's doing.

Everyone sees what the Israeli election results are, what the policies are. Maybe they don't know the exact demographics, but they get a sense. It's true that if you visit Tel Aviv, you don't really understand what's happening in Israel. Not that Tel Aviv is that liberal, but compared to the rest of the country, it's super liberal. But I think that for a lot of American Jews, Israel has become such an important part of their identity that they feel they have to grasp at every single straw in order to defend it, even as it becomes increasingly indefensible. And the older you are, the more you're invested in Israel and in the need to defend it. And we're seeing younger Jews with a lot less skin in that game and a lot less of the sunk cost issue regarding Israel.

And they're much more willing to accept. So I don't think it's really a lack of information per se as much as it's an issue of cognitive dissonance. Because the amount of information that we've received about Israel doing bad things even before October 7th. But now every day something shocking comes out that really should make you question. your support for Israel. And I look at the people defending Israel and I almost feel pity for them. It's like how can you defend this? And every day it's a new PR crisis and every day they're trying desperately,

but that's because it's part of their identity. I don't know if they really believe that Israel is that just anymore. They do believe that Israel is being targeted disproportionately because of anti-Semitism. That's a genuine belief most Jews have, which I don't have. But they know that Israel is not that righteous and moral anymore. I think that's a very hard case to make now. Shail, I just want to say thank you for the courageous work you do because I mean, I'm not a Jewish person and I can't imagine what it's like to be a Jewish person who is

very critical of what Israel is doing right now. I mean, I get a lot of crazy threats, so I can't imagine what you've been through. But also thank you for breaking free from the shackles of delusion where you find yourself defending the indefensible. I'm so happy that you're not doing that and you're providing an example of, you know, Israelis, Jewish people who have been speaking out against this. These people do exist, you know, there might be a smaller population of them in Israel right now, but I know so many Jewish people who have been standing up and calling out the injustices and you are one of the loudest voices. So thank you again, and I hope you'll come back soon. Anytime, it was a pleasure and thank you for your kind

words and I love the work you too do. Thank you. And I'll add one last thing. Shail, thank you for keeping the moral light of Judaism alive. I think that people will come back later in your community and thank you and others like you for representing true Judaism and not getting wrapped up in the moment. Because nationalism is about hysteria and people get sucked into it. But you didn't, you stuck with true principles and we appreciate it, brother. I sure hope you're right. Thank you so much for having me.

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Exactly, we'll be back. All right, back on T.J.J. Ken can Anna with you guys. More news? Well, we move away from sexual torture to just physical torture. torture, this time used against humanitarians who tried to deliver aid to Palestinians in Gaza. So let's get to the details. Peace activists who were part of a flotilla of about 50 boats carrying humanitarian aid to starving Palestinians at the Gaza Strip were roundly detained, abused, and mocked on camera by the Israelis. But what's getting the most attention is the fact that Itamar

Ben Gavir, who happens to be the defense minister of Israel, posted about it on social media and made the Israelis look bad. So currently there's a big debate, Jank, about what to do about Itamar Ben-Gavir. Yeah, so I want you guys watch the video and see how bad it is, and then I want to talk to you about the cover-up and whether the cover-up is going to help or not. So we're gonna show you the video, you're gonna hear Hebrew for our audio listeners. We will give you the statement. We'll read it to you when we come back from the video. Take a look. They came with a lot of pride like great heroes. Look at how they look now, just look, look at how they look now.

Not heroes or anything, just supporters of terrorism. I tell the Prime Minister Netanyahu, give them to me for a much, much longer time, give them to us in the terrorist prisons. That's how it should look. By the way, Itamar Ben-Gavir, a terrorist, is in charge of Israel's prison system. Yeah, I mean, he's literally convicted of supporting terrorism. So they just literally handed the country over to terrorists. Okay, again, for the audio listeners, the folks who are in the flotilla are on the ground. They're on their knees and their heads are on the ground in a bowing position to the Israelis.

Just for extra humiliation, now we've seen some of the pictures as they are arriving in different countries like Turkey. And their injuries. Their injuries are severe, okay? They beat them so badly. That's why they're making them kneel in like a kind of a symbolic way of. of you are superior to us and you know, we are we are groveling to you, which is exactly what the Israelis love at this point. They love rubbing it in the rest of the world's face because these aren't just Palestinians

or Arabs, these are Westerners and they're like, no, you are inferior to us. We will beat you, we will torture you, and then we will make you look submissive to us, and then we'll send it to the whole world to rub it in your face. You were for us, you give us your money, you give us your wars, and then we humiliate you. Humiliation is a huge part of the occupation. Every single Palestinian I have spoken to has a horrific story of humiliation. For them, for their kids, for their wives, right now the settlers are stalking young girls latrines and saying we're gonna rape your daughters and your wives if you stay here.

And it's part of the sexual abuse that they do to the Palestinians to drive them out of the land, which is another telltale sign of a genocide when you use sexual assault as a weapon. And they've done it systematically all throughout the settlements and all throughout the prisons. And now they're rubbing our faces in it. So how did the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, respond to this? I mean, there is a sizable portion of Israel society right now who are furious because this is obviously very bad PR and they're trying to do some damage control. But Netanyahu decided to double down. So here's what he had to say about it on X.

Israel has every right to prevent provocative flotillas of Hamas terrorist supporters from entering our territorial waters and reaching Gaza. So let's just pause for a second. These are people who are motivated by the fact that innocent civilians are intentionally being starved to death in the Gaza Strip. At no point did any of them mention or declare their support of Hamas. But this is what they do, right? Anyone who cares about the humanity, the dignity of the Palestinian people in the eyes of extremists like Netanyahu and Ben-Gavir, they're Hamas supporters.

In reality, they need to look in the mirror because they're the terrorists. They're the real terrorists. Yeah. So I see Israeli apologists all the time saying, well, well, if Palestinians hadn't done this, if, if, if. It's though a famous line from Goldemeyer, I should say infamous line, where she said, we'll never forgive the Palestinians for making us kill their children. So they say, well, if they hadn't taken the hostages, if they hadn't done this, if they hadn't done that, right?

But the hostages have been returned now for months on end. They're still slaughtering people in Gaza. They're still slaughtering people in Lebanon and Iran and in the West Bank. And why did the flotilla come? It was to feed hungry children. So now, if you attack them because they're occupying you, well, oh, that's obvious terrorism. You should never, ever touch an Israeli. You should just be occupied forever and know that you're inferior to them.

But okay, then on top of that, they go, if you go to the UN, that's also terrorism. Wait, diplomacy is terrorism? They've literally said that, literally. Then you say, hey, these guys are bringing in food for starving children. They're like, that's also supporting terrorism. How could feeding hungry people be supporting terrorism? See, what it is is an excuse. The word terrorism is nonsense.

It doesn't apply to the Israelis. It not only applies the Muslims, now congratulations the West. You're now all terrorists too for trying to feed hungry Palestinian kids. You're now supporting terrorism according to the Israelis. And by the way, that means you could be tortured, that means you could be detained, beat, raped, and killed because you're supporting terrorism. if you wanna feed hungry children. And these are the monsters that are disgusting politicians demand that we fund.

And say that we're immoral if we don't fund them. I mean, honestly, Jank, I've come across a lot of people who say the work we do here has, you know, changed their minds about Israel. But honestly, at this point, I think we could be completely silent on the treachery of Israel. And they incriminate themselves. They do it every day, every single day. They have a hard time understanding that the rest of the human race looks at this kind of stuff and they see it as immoral.

They don't get it, they don't get it, they think they're doing something good. Torturing, innocent people, starving people to death. I know it's shocking, but to the rest of the world, that is seen as bad, not good, bad, okay? So literally we could say nothing about Israel ever again. And just by their very actions and the fact that they're obsessed with, publicizing their very actions. That's gonna change hearts and minds when it comes to Israel.

Okay, so not everyone in Israeli society is supportive of what happened to the humanitarians who tried to deliver aid to Gaza. Josh Brainer, who is a journalist over at Heretz, posted the following. Ben Gavir's humiliation video will reach 15 million views on Twitter alone. It'll climb even higher, and that's just on Twitter. Around the world, it's spreading like wildfire. The immense damage has already been done everywhere, and to us too. Suddenly, we caught a terrifying glimpse of ourselves in the mirror.

Thank you. Yes, that's a great line, Josh. Thank you. Yes, that's exactly right and I really appreciate that line. And I'm constantly wondering, do right-wing voters already grasp how much damage this man, meaning it's Amar Ben-Gavir is causing? What kind of disaster he's bringing down on us and on them? Because honestly, none of the rest matters.

People like me know he's a criminal, a provocateur, a fame seeker, a dangerous clown, and that's just for starters. I'm gonna read the rest of it. He also says this, but has the penny dropped for right wing voters? After all, what kind of Jewish strength is there in this video? And even if we assume every one of those police detainees

is a blatant anti-Semite, does that legitimize behaving the way he did? humiliating, degrading, abusing the power given to the prison service and police for that purpose, and then documenting it and spreading it around the world, is this how you want us to look? So there are people who have moral issues with what happened in this case. I believe that Josh is one of them. And then there are those who don't really have a problem with it, but don't like the negative press. They don't like the fact that Ben-Gavir posted this on social media.

And right now, the Israeli foreign ministry is trying to do a little bit of damage control. So they posted this on X. Activists from the provocation flotilla are seen hugging after being transferred to Israeli vessels. So far, no aid has been found on their boats, which I don't believe for a second. They're just trying to make it seem like these people are causing problems. When in reality, they're literally risking their lives. They know what the Israelis are like. They're literally risking their lives to deliver food and aid to Palestinians.

And by the way, medical supplies as well, not just food. Yeah, so we've got more horrors coming up in a second. But yes, there's the damage control crowd, including the prime minister. And the rest of that statement that Anna showed you, he says this is not aligned with Israel's values and norms. And that's what they say every time they're caught publicly in a way that the West notices. Yeah. Like they're not quote unquote caught on all the different videos of the IDF. soldiers that are stealing everything in the Lebanese homes before they destroy them,

that are, you know, mocking Christians and the churches that they're destroying on and on and on. But every once in a while, something gets a lot of attention, like the guy smashing the Jesus statue's head, right? Those are the only times that Nanyahu or his office comes out and goes, oh, that does not represent our values or norms. Oh, good, so you arrested them, right? Oh, no, we didn't arrest anyone. In fact, we gave them a promotion, et cetera, et cetera. No, so it does represent your norms, otherwise there would be consequences, right? All you have to do is watch like Israeli television, and then you'll understand what their values are because people say things brazenly. They say it out loud with no shame at all. And so if I lived

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children, imagine uttering the words there are no innocent children. Imagine uttering those words. This is a Knesset member. Okay. All right, let's keep going. Those same ones who were born in 2006 in the expulsion from Gush Katif, they are the nuke. I don't even know what that is. Anyway, and therefore I do not have even a bit, even a tiny bit, even a tiny bit any kind of feeling of mercy for the Palestinians. So basically he's referring to children, Palestinian children as terrorists. Yeah, so look guys, a lot of folks in this country because our press works for the right wing government of Israel or seems to, covers up all of their crimes, never shares any of

these videos with you guys, never tells you the devastating stories of the Palestinian children killed, murdered, and abused greatly humiliated, et cetera, you don't see what's actually happening in Israel. In Israel now, there are tons of literal Nazis in their Knesset, in their cabinet. And when I say literal Nazis, well, when you say we don't care about innocent children, they should be murdered, well, that's what a Nazi says, right? We said we don't care about the innocent Jews or the Poles or the Roma or anything, we just murder them because by definition everyone there is guilty, everyone of that ethnicity.

So if you want to call them fascists instead of Nazis, that's fine. But there's no question at all, based on what we just heard, that Yitzhak Kursir is a fascist and he would have fit in perfectly in Nazi Germany, saying there are no innocent women, there are no innocent children, let's just murder them. That's again, exactly what the Nazis said. And he said not one bit of mercy, exactly what the Nazis said, and that there are no innocent civilians. That's why the Nazis said that's why we have to murder all the Jews because there are no innocent civilians.

Now the Israelis are saying now we have to murder all of the innocent Palestinian children because there are no innocent civilians. So also unquestionably, that is what terrorists say. That is terrorism 101. If you don't say that that Kinescent member is a terrorist, and by the way, did he also help to pass laws and legislation and rules that actually literally carried out what he's saying, where they murdered 23,000 children in Gaza? Yes, yes, it's not theoretical. He actually did it, they all actually did it, right? If you say they're not terrorists, you're just saying,

oh, I use the word terrorist to smear Muslims because I'm a bigot, and I want them murdered, and I'm never going to apply it to Jewish people, I'm never going to apply it to Israelis, I'm never going to apply it to Israelis, I'm never going to apply it to anyone that's me, because I want to murder them. Then you are a terrorist, you are a fascist. And so stop hiding behind this veil of, oh, where they're they're were the victims. No, the last unfortunate, deeply ironic, terrible thing that the Nazis did, unfortunately,

is they left behind the strand of fascism that has followed to Israel, where might makes right and you murder anyone who's your enemy. So now you're seeing it with your own eyes. We're showing you the exact quotes and the exact speeches. There is absolutely no disputing it. And Ben Gavir is one of the top three most important members in Israel's cabinet. It's not these liars here that the Israeli supporters in America that are all over television and the media are giant liars and they know they're lying.

Oh, Ben Gavir and Smilrich are a small part of the government. That's not true. They're two out of the three most important. Israel cats is their defense minister. Three out of the fourth. And the fourth is that in Yahoo. They're all terrorists. They're all fascists.

by every definition of the word fascism and terrorism. But here they go, no, no, no, no, we're the victims. Netanyahu is the victim. Fascist Yitzhak Khazir is the victim of the Palestinians. And our media knows no bounds. They have no decency at all. So to this day, they paint the Palestinians and the Arabs as the terrorists and the Israelis as the victims of the Palestinian terrorism.

They have no shame at all. But lastly, Zionism at this point is clearly a cult, okay? And they get in a cult, you get propaganda from when you're young, right? And they brainwash you. And in the case of Zionism, they say everyone's gonna murder you. Everyone in the world hates you, the only thing that can protect you is Israel. And you have to kill them first, and you have to take their land. Why?

Because God promised it to you. Now wait a minute. So no Jewish person I know in America thinks that they're the chosen people, right? That's just a statement that they had sent the books, but they interpreted in totally different ways or they're not religious, they're secular itself. Literally, I don't know a single Jewish person that thinks that they're the chosen people. But then they make the mistake of projection and they think, well, no one in Israel believes that. That's not true at all.

Tons of people, a huge, huge percentage of Israelis believe they are the chosen people. God promised them Judea and Samaria and God promised them all that land. That is why they have to murder all of the innocent civilians on that land, which they don't have one bit of mercy for because God told them that they're the Ubermash. They are the superior people, and they must take that land and kill whoever's on it. So that is a stone cold fact about an enormous percentage of Israelis. And everything else that you hear in American media about how they're the victims is absurd. and its propaganda on behalf of a fascist government so they could take more money from us for their fascism.

All right, we're going to take our break. When we come back for the second hour, we'll talk a little bit about Jeff Bezos' views on populism. I'm sure you can guess what he thinks. And Roqqana's response to it. I'm also going to get into the debate I had with Shabos Kestenbaum on an Arabic, Saudi Arabia-based news station. You don't want to miss that. right back. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? Rich and powerful men abusing, assaulting, and abandoning young women. These rich and powerful men donate to the politicians in Washington,

D.C., play golf with the elites in Washington, D.C. They are foreign leaders who we don't want to offend. They interact with our intelligence agencies that we don't want to disobey. There is something rotten in Washington. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? All those congressmen you just saw there are on the record as protecting the child rapists who were clients of Epstein. They have not prosecuted a single person outside of Epstein and Maxwell. Yep. Not one.

Is Trump engaging in this cover up because he's in the Epstein files? I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody. It's pretty boring stuff. So as the government keeps telling us, yeah, there's other people. Yeah, they rape those girls. So what? We're going to cover up for them. Why are you guys so mad?

A nation that chooses impunity for the rich and the powerful at the expense of our children is a nation that has lost its moral purpose. Are you on the side of the people? Are you on the side of America's children? Or are you on the side of the rich and powerful who've had their thumb on the scales and shafted Americans for decades? The rest of the news media says you should not fight for positive change. do, you're not really a reporter or a journalist because reporters and journalists don't care what happens. I don't agree.

That's not written anywhere. That's not a law. It's just a rule that they invented so that reporters didn't actually challenge the people that are in power. Well, we don't agree with that. We think we should challenge the people in power that that actually makes you a better journalist, not a worse one. Who do you guys use?

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Does that really make sense? Some people talk about making the tax system more progressive. How about we start by having the nurse and Queens not pay taxes? Why is somebody at all? You could double the taxes I pay and it's not going to help that teacher in Queens. I promise you. Yeah, don't be fooled by that douchebag pretending like he's totally cool with paying more in taxes. So a nurse in Queens doesn't have to pay anything in taxes.

This guy's been getting away with murder for quite some time. He loves it. In fact, he ensures that our political system allows for him to get away with paying nothing in taxes, which I'm gonna show you in just a minute. But Jenk, Jeff Bezos was on CNBC sharing his thoughts on populism. Yeah, so I'm gonna explain why he went with that particular lie in a little bit. And you're gonna see who do you think is the one Democrat fighting back against them? Well, I'll let you take a minute with it. All right, Anna.

So why don't we hear him out, okay? I know, I don't mean to, you know, prime you guys to reject him outright. So you should hear him out. Let's start with Jeff Bezos complaining about politicians going after rich people. What's happening here is politicians are using the kind of age-old technique. So there's this tale of two economies and they're using this age-old technique of, you know, picking a villain and pointing fingers. But the problem is that doesn't solve anything. And so like if you want to help the group of people who are struggling, you have to figure out real root causes and solutions and that takes skill. Policy debates don't have to be finger pointing. This is the piece that.

So you're not going to tell your place. Unfortunately, it's a, it is an effective political technique. It's as old as the hills. So when you don't know how to solve a problem, the only thing will solve the problem is skill. Right. And so really it's a skills issue. So the guy who had rules and quotas that were so extreme for Amazon delivery drivers that they

They would literally urinate in plastic bottles and throw them out onto the streets because they had no choice. They had to go, go, go, go, you have a quota, you gotta deliver the package, got to deliver the package two day, two day, one day, one day. That guy has the solutions for how to deal with the tail of two economies, the tail of two economies. How did the two economies come about? Was it because of billionaire campaign donors like you who ensures that deregulation continues to happen, that workers continue to get abused with impunity.

Is that why? Is that why we have that tale of two economies? I love that he called it a tale. It's not a tale, it's reality. Yeah, so two quick things here. One is root causes, yeah, you want to address him? Great, help us get money out of politics. Yeah, totally.

Because that's the number one root cause, because every industry and lobby buys the politicians. Mo Brooks explained this, he's a former representative from Alabama, said in order to be a committee chair, You have to get a million dollars. We're gonna get the million dollars from the industry you're regulating so you don't regulate them. And then you disperse it to the other greasy politicians, and then they all back that particular industry. So they're supporting their donors over their voters, and that's why we're getting screwed and we have this wealth inequality. And who loves that? Jeff Bezos absolutely loves it. Every billionaire loves it because it allows them to buy the entire Congress.

And so- So, Jake, shockingly, he actually weighed in on this during the interview, okay? I don't trust this guy at all. I think that he is the root cause of the problem. So I'm gonna skip ahead and go to D4 because here he allegedly states that corporations have too much influence on American politicians. Hilarious, okay, I can't wait to put him to the test, let's watch. The other piece of the argument is that the wealthy have extraordinary influence over government policy and have too much influence over government policy, by the way over tax policy, over housing,

We're all of it. I, but what I would say is that we have way too much corporate welfare, way too much corporate subsidies. We have, there's way too much influence in politics from business, in some cases wealthy people who really focus on that, unions. There's a bunch of people interfering in the political process. And if we can make that better, we should do that too. It doesn't make any sense for the government to subsidize, you know,

certain agricultural crops, certain, you know, real estate transactions, Hollywood films. The tax code is 10,000 plus pages long because it has built-in corporate loopholes for various things. This is crony capitalism. And of course, it should be fixed. Okay, so who are you going to bribe in Congress to fix it? No, but I'm serious, right? I love that he's working on positive PR for himself. I don't believe him for a second.

You're the guy who was the founder, the head, the CEO for a very long time, of the very company that abused its workers that had factory workers, or I should say those working in the warehouses, packing the packages and getting them ready for delivery. How many stories have we shared with our audience of workers who were so overworked that they They literally collapsed on the floor. Some people died in those warehouses. And you want to know what the rest of the workers were told to do? Just ignore it.

Keep working, keep working. Yeah. So look, if you're really against corporate welfare, which is kind of a funny thing, because didn't you take advantage of those loopholes so that Amazon one year paid zero in taxes? Oh, we'll get to that. Okay, so huh, that's weird because you're one of the, it's one of the wealthiest companies in the history of the world, but yet all of a sudden you're taking advantage of those loopholes, But now you're now pretending on air for propaganda purposes to be against.

But good news, I could just put you to the test and you could prove me wrong. So Wolfpack is to get money out of politics, wants to bring both sides together, and all the things you're talking about, crony capitalism, corporate welfare, rich people taking advantage of the system. So fight corruption. I'm waiting for the $20 million check, which is nothing to you. It's not, you won't even notice it at all that it's got. But you know what, any sign, 2 million, 1 million, anything where you give you. Give to a real organization, not garbage, oh, take money out of politics, but don't. Okay, there's a couple of those in Washington.

100%. Right? Give to Wolfpack. That's a real populist organization. Fight corruption. And then we'll say, oh, okay, well maybe Bezos meant it. He just gave $20 million to get money out of politics. And believe me, with $20 million, we could probably just do it on that alone.

And look, guys, he's saying the right things in that video we just showed you. But a lot of these people lie and they do it intentionally, you should look at their actions. Their actions matter more than what they say in an effort to get some positive press on CNBC. So let's look at Bezos's net worth and how he pays nothing in taxes. So Forbes actually lists Bezos net worth. So if you're curious how much he has in wealth, it is not much, only $274 billion. Okay, so in 2007. 7, Bezos, who filed his taxes jointly with his then wife, McKenzie Scott, who appears to be a genuinely wonderful woman.

She's been giving that money away, by the way, to all sorts of charities. By the way, if you don't know how to give money to the causes you say you believe in on television, just call your ex-wife. She knows how to do it. She sure does. She sure does. So McKenzie Scott reported a paltry for him, $46 million in income, largely from interest and dividend payments on outsized. outside investments. He was able to offset every penny he earned with losses from side investments and various deductions like interest expenses on debts and the vague catch-all category of other expenses. I see that a lot when I'm looking at financial disclosures. It's interesting.

In 2011, a year in which his wealth held roughly steady at $18 billion, Bezos filed a tax return reporting he lost money. His income that year was more than offset by investment losses. What's more because according to the tax law, he made so little, he even claimed and received a $4,000 tax credit for his children. No, no, that's unacceptable, man. That's rubbing in our face. That's spitting in our face. I'm not done yet. Go ahead. Bezos's tax avoidance is even more striking if you examine 2006 to 2018, a period for which ProPublica has complete data. Bezos says, wealth increased by $127 billion with a B, according to Forbes.

But he reported a total of $6.5 billion in income. Interesting. If I were to do something like that, I would be audited and I'd be in a lot of trouble. The $1.4 billion he paid in personal federal taxes is a massive number, yet it amounts to a 1.1% true tax rate on the rise in his fortune. But I'm sure the CNBC threw those facts right in his face and said, Well, it sounds like you're a giant liar because you've been doing the exact opposite of what you just said. Look, Andrew Ross Sorkin did not do that.

Really? I don't know why, but I have a little bit of a soft spot for him, but you did bad there. You did bad. They have to go soft. No, no, no, but you need access. You need access so that he can come on and do propaganda for billionaires. So let's get to the individual who's not buying it other than us. And that would be Democratic Congressman Rokana who says maybe next time try a different talking point.

Bernie Sanders and my billionaire tax would set up a $60,000 minimum starting salary for all public school teachers. Now he mentions his billionaire tax and that's been kind of controversial because the billionaire tax that he supports out of California would only impact the state of California. You know, people pay a lot in taxes in California and a lot of our money gets wasted. So the argument is if you want to do something about waste, then yeah, We can have a conversation about increasing taxes. But generally speaking, taxing billionaires more, I think, makes more sense. When you especially do a little bit of a deep dive and notice that percentage wise, in terms of percentage of their income and their wealth, they pay a lot less.

Sometimes they pay nothing to federal taxes compared to ordinary workers who get paid a salary or a wage. And so the bill, by the way, would use revenue from the wealth tax to provide a $3,000 direct payment to every man, woman, and child in a household making $150,000 or less, $12,000 for a family of four. Reverse the $1.1 trillion in Medicaid and Affordable Care Act cuts in Trump's so-called Big Beautiful Bill, which are estimated to cause more than 50,000 unnecessary deaths. By the way, what Rokana is talking about here is a billionaire tax that would impact, you know, people on a federal level. This isn't the California billionaire tax. And this one, I think, makes sense.

to expand Medicare to cover dental, vision, and hearing for millions of seniors, build, rehabilitate, and preserve other, over 7 million affordable homes to eliminate the affordable housing gap and end homelessness, ensure no family pays more than 7% of their income on child care, establish a $60,000 minimum annual salary for every public school teacher in America, and expand Medicaid home health care for seniors and people with disabilities, which by the way, would have been incredibly helpful for me and my family as my mom was recovering from cancer at home. So yeah.

So unless someone like Rokana becomes president, that bill has no chance of passing. And then you go to wait, wait, wait, a lot of times people in media will acknowledge that it has no chance of passing, but they won't tell you why. The reason why is because all of the Republicans and a majority of the Democrats take money from people like Jeff Bezos. So they vote against bills like that. though it would help the average American. In fact, because it helps the average American instead of their donors.

And the donors view every dollar that goes to you as a dollar that should have gone to them instead, right? And they view it as a zero-sum game. So that's why a lot of time, like perfect example is paid family leave. It's 84% popularity to give moms 12 weeks off after they have a baby. Come on, literally almost every nation on earth, but it's like three island nations that don't have it, and America, the richest nation on earth. Now that one's a layup, right?

Everybody wants it and it doesn't cost them that much. No, no, corporations are like, you're to vote against it and Democrats you're going to pretend to be in favor of it, but never introduce it by itself, okay? Can I ask you something, Jank, because this is something that I'm super curious about. You are the CEO of this company. The company offers generous maternity or family leave when a baby is coming. Is that breaking the bank? Is this company going to go under?

because you offer family leave? So that is definitely not the issue. We do have issues, okay? And it's mainly because supporters of Israel have turned off every single tap, right? They sure have, yeah. Okay, but no, that's not an issue. We've had that all throughout,

including great years that we've had here. And so guys, but what it does do, it's a great question, Myana, is it punishes good guy companies because we give it anyway, right? But the companies that are the worst actors go, Oh, okay, great, now I have an advantage over the Young Turks and any other decent company, because I won't give it.

Or what a lot of companies do is they give it to their executives, but to no one else. Gross. Okay, that's so gross. Okay, that's actually the most common. Okay, so if, and I've seen, look, I'm a CEO, and it's kind of funny, right, because we do such a populist show that they all view is radical and stuff. But I interact with a lot of the business community. And a lot of them are good guys that come back to that in a second, but tons of them think totally binary.

If you're an executive, they're like, well, I mean, he's got to get this and he's got to get his kids in the private school and you have to pay for this and this and this. And they have enormous sympathy and empathy for the executives. And but the minute you get to non-execatives are, no. In fact, sympathy, they view as kind of a negative against the CEO because then you can't make ruthless decisions. And that's a weakness, you know, so you're gonna get marked down for that one. So now look, I'm not in the eat the rich category. I'm not in the saying there should be no billionaires. But at the same time, you can't then turn around and say, I have $276 billion.

But oh my God, our wealth tax is so terrible. Oh, but I am against wealth inequality. Right, exactly. Come on, brother. What are you going to run out? You can't run out. Look guys, I know that you, since none of us have a billion dollars, you cannot comprehend how much money that is.

But because of the interest that you would make from a billion dollars, it's nearly impossible to run out of it because you make so much money every day in interest that you just can't spend that kind of money. That's for $1 billion. 276 billion, countries can't run out of that kind of money. They're literally, he is worth more than many of the countries on the planet. And then the minute you ask him to share a nickel, they're like, how dare you? if you are doing class warfare.

Well, you know what? That's it. I'm buying all the politicians to destroy you. And then they go on media and they're like, oh, I am here to help a nurse in Queens. And then they don't get any questions about it. And then it makes it seem like, oh, he's the good guy. He's against wealth inequality. Come on.

No bounds of decency or justice at all in media or in politics these days. Let's take our final break. When we come back, we'll get into that debate I was teasing earlier. And we'll also give you an update on Trump's $1.8 billion taxpayer funded lack of transparency involved slush fund. We'll be right back. Gross. All right, let's go to super chat. Breaker Wall says he had contracts with USPS killing the postal service, your postal service. Yep.

So why? So he could charge you a lot more for having them deliver the. the mail instead of the cheap way that we do it through the government now. The efficient way that we do it through the government now. So like, I mean like he's nearly Lex Luthor and he's pretending to be like a humanitarian. Brother, show it. Show me through your actions, not through your total utter garbage propaganda on garbage propaganda CNBC.

All right, anyways, also he gave $75 million to do a movie about Melania to make Trump happy. But he does not like money in politics or corporate welfare. Here, Trumpy, here, Trumpy. I'll bribe your wife's officials, won't divorce you in the middle of this term, okay? Now, give me corporate welfare. I'm going to pay no taxes. Oh, I'm on CNBC. I'm such a pleasant person.

Get the F out of here. Anyway, crime and shenanigans right, said on YouTube member section, this is what the news should sound like. Thank you. We appreciate that. Ronald Fane says, Happy Thursday, T.Y.T. family, and to you and Jen canana, When I watch you debating Shabbas Kestaman, you totally kick his butt in it.

Good job, keep up the good work. He acts like Dershowitz 2.0. My favorite part of that interview was when he's like, now I'm against APEC. Oh, shut it, please, come on. I can't, I think it's because I have a difficult time hiding what I really think. That like when I come across people who are brazenly lying, I just, I can't stomach it. It drives me crazy. They do it with such ease.

How do they do it with such ease? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, they're hilarious. Anyway, no crass says that's not just about humiliation, referring to the Bangorvirator. They have them in distress positions. It's a method of torture. Yes. Both are true, but they love the humiliation part. All right, back on TYT, Janehanna with you guys, more news. All right, let's get to the debate I had yesterday. It's published today. I want to talk about it. President Trump just issued a proclamation incurring Americans to keep Shabbat. I encourage you to do something shopping. Oh my God, just shoot me in the head, please.

I had said, gladly, I had said that individuals are free to lobby their government. For culture, right? None of that. Not that. No, no, no. A lot of that. They showed every day. Well, that was just a little taste of the debate that I had recently with Israel

Furster and Prager Hughes resident Israel propagandist Shabos Kestenbaum. The debate got a little fiery, Jank, to say the least. Yeah, so look, I want to show you more clips from that. But if Anna had said that she would like to shoot him in the head, it would be a literal congressional resolution. It would be all over cable news right now. But if you support Israel, you could call for the murder of other pundits and no one cares at all because they have special rules and special privileges while pretending to be the

world's greatest victims. I actually wanna play that cold open again, if you don't mind. Listen closely, right? I obviously use an expression, it's an exaggerated expression because it's a frustrating conversation. I obviously don't literally mean someone please shoot me in the head. But listen to how we response to that. President Trump just issued a proclamation incurring Americans to keep Shabbat. I encourage you to do something shopping. I had said, I had said, gladly, I had said that individuals are free to lobby their government. For culture, right? None of that.

Individuals are free to lobby their government. No, no, a lot of that. They showed every day. So just want to make sure everyone knows that we live in like a two-tiered system where it's like, It's almost like we live under a caste system, right? We do, because I guarantee you, Anna, that if you show that the cable news anchors, they'll go, Shabbas, way to go. You got Anna. Jake Tapper would love it. Yeah, and I'll tell you why he'd say that, because you've got to be thinking.

What do you mean? That he said he'd gladly shoot Anna in the head. He's obviously in the wrong. No, they'll go, oh, Anna said that that was in the Israeli culture because of all the people that they've killed in Gaza. It is. Because of the empirical fact of who they've killed in Gaza. And I guarantee you, they're like, oh, shooting Anna and that.

the head, no big deal. No big deal. She's not in Israeli. Her life doesn't count at all, okay? But you said something negative about Israelis. Cancel Anna. Guaranteed that that would be the reaction of nearly every cable news anchor in this country. Well, that's why I'm not on cable news.

CNN doesn't call me anymore specifically. Anyway, whatever, put that aside. I don't care about CNN, but you're absolutely right in what you're saying here. Now, I want to go to the next video because this is the one that really sets the tone for how the entire debate went. Roughly 13% of the $7 trillion that we expend as the federal budget every single year goes to the military, whereas 55% of total expenditures are going to entitlement and mandatory safety net programs, which does not even include the money we're spending on inflation on the debt alone. So the idea that the reason you don't have health insurance.

I know you'd like that money to go to Israel, but we funds those programs. My money funds those programs. So we are entitled to them. So we are entitled to them. But continue. Continue. I know you'd like that money to go to your precious Israelis, but continue. Yeah.

Again, I find, I find your ability to dumb down. care what you find, continue your statement. No, no, no, so just stop interrupting. You're double my age. Just shut up. I can't stand your lies and I can't stand that you feel entitled to our money going to anywhere other than the very entitlements that we are funding with our tax dollars. Okay. So lady, lady, let me state it again.

I don't call me lady. To any country, whether it's Israel, whether it's Taiwan, whether it's Ukraine, I don't want foreign aid. So when you keep saying my precious Israel, I have already stated repeatedly, I don't believe in foreign aid. But the idea that you are propagating to your audience, that the reason we don't have universal health care is because all the money we're spending on wars. I agree.

So let's cut down the military budget. But 55% of our spending doesn't go to war or the military. It goes to our massive, massive entitlement programs that are full with waste, fraud, and abuse. But I digress. You know, it's interesting because I've seen the Trump administration make that claim about our entitlement programs for how long. And what kind of waste fraud and abuse did they find? Doesn't seem like they found much waste fraud and abuse when it came to entitlement programs,

which by the way, he seems like he loves the idea of universal health care. But listen to the way that he talks about entitlement programs. Seems like he's got a lot of disdain for those entitlement programs, doesn't he? Yeah, so first, the reason why they were called entitlement programs in the first place is because Social Security and Medicare we pay into. So we are entitled to our money back unless you listen to Shabbas and then he says, no, no, no, no, no. But technically, he says, no, I'm not, I don't want the money to go to Israel. Right.

So do you want us to go to war against Iran? Of course, you better go to war against Iran and spend, what, $29 billion lately, right? Allegedly. At a minimum, at a minimum. So is Israel going to give us a $29 billion for their war? Good question. Right? He'll be like, no way, no, you're all anti-Semites, you owe Israel.

Wait, what happened? I thought you said we shouldn't give money to Israel and that you weren't for AIPAC. He's such a gigantic liar. And the reason why they do that kind of husband is to seem like they're reasonable, right? They're reasonable. I'm unbiased. So I wanted to show you that clip first to kind of set the tone of how the entire conversation went. And by the way, here's the thing, if you are making a statement where you are engaging in brazen lies,

or more importantly, if you are straw manning me or lying about me, I'm gonna interrupt you. Just know that, I'm gonna interrupt you, so stop crying about it. More importantly, don't lie about me. Don't straw man me. I won't interrupt you. It's that simple. Anyway, so in the beginning of the interview, just to show you how this guy has no freaking credibility, because he'll lie about irrelevant things.

He lied about something totally irrelevant in the very beginning of the debate. So let's take a look at that. I was on the left. I grew up watching Anna Kasparan and Shank Weiger on the Young Turks. And then I decided I wanted to be a conservative. I wanted to be part of Team MAGA. The mainstream media is going to concoct a narrative whereby this is about Israel, this is about the proe Israel lobby. But at the end of the day, Thomas Massey himself, between himself and his super PAC,

raised close to $15 million. Of that money, only roughly $150,000 came from Kentuckyans. His biggest fans are people like Anikasperian, people like Rokana, people on the far left. So when you spend your campaign or the day before your campaign going on the young Turks and not campaigning in your district, not speaking to conservatives, it's kind of no wonder that you will lose elections. If he had grown up watching the young Turks, he would know how to pronounce Jank Yugar's name. It's not Shank Uyghur or whatever it is that he said. His opening line is literally, welcome to the young Turks. I'm your host, Jank Yugar. So unnecessary lies. If you're lying about that, what else are you lying about? To say that the Israel lobby had no

impact on this election is laughable when you consider the fact that Thomas Massey has drawn the ire of President Donald Trump in past election cycles. Trump has tried to primary him previously and failed to do so. Yeah, and the only difference in this election was that the Israel lobby got involved and spent a lot of money to defeat him, making it the most expensive primary race in American history. Yeah, so they do this siops thing, and this is not just the Israelis, it's all over the internet for the last couple of years, where whichever group is funding, and apparently they all speak in some sort of like nefarious circle where they go, oh yeah, that's a good operating.

is, well, and this isn't just to us, it happens to a lot of different people on the left and the right. I used to watch your show so much, but you've really changed. It's disappointed me. The real problem is what's happened to you. They never watched this show. No, no, it never works on me because I know it's BS, but that lies. I mean, if you're going to use that lie, just take the extra minute to learn how to pronounce the host's name. Right, later, by the way, he complained that Anna wasn't pronouncing his name right, as if you've got an obligation to know exactly how you would pronounce his name. Listen, Shabu Shabu.

I know that you guys spread this propaganda about Takia. I'm a secular Turk. I grew up a secular Turk, so I didn't even know what that was. I don't even know what that is, what is that? So that's a thing they say, where they say Muslims are allowed to lie about the different things, including their identity and what they support in order to do an evil plot to help Islam, okay? Is that really a Muslim thing or is that a thing you made up to smear Muslims?

But okay, whatever. So, but remember, every Israeli accusation is a confession. So that's why, oh, I used to watch the young Turks. Oh, I'm against APEC. Oh, I don't want you to give money to Israel or all a form of Israeli takia to try to seem like, oh, I'm unbiased. I just happen to think Israel's totally right to torture and murder the Palestinians and occupy them for 58 years in brutal fashion.

And I think killing 23,000 kids is a great idea and I'm so unbiased. That's classic Takia, apparently. It's crazy. Okay, so the whole point of this debate, the topic at hand was, did the Israel lobby make all the difference in the Masi race? I believe it did, I've been following the story closely. Obviously, you have Shabos there to run interference or provide cover for the Israel lobby. And so I'm gonna play one more video in regard to the Israel lobby. And then we'll get to a really fascinating moment in regard to what Shabot says to people when he's on a debate panel and what he says to a room full of Jewish students when he thinks no one else is listening.

But first, let's actually go to E4. The only thing that changed this time around was that there was the weight and the funding of the lobby, the Israel First lobby. And those ads that they were playing honed in on nonsense, totalize AI ads purporting, claiming that Thomas Massey was in a sexual relationship with AOC and Congresswoman Ilhan Omar. They fight dirty. They play dirty because at the end of the day, the American people serve as pay pigs for foreign wars. And Massey was one of the principled Republicans who actually was a fiscal hawk, who actually cared about this country. and our economic situation. And so he kept voting no for all sorts of funding projects, including wars for Israel or military aid to Israel.

And Israel didn't like that. Their benefactors here in the United States didn't like that. And so the campaign worked this time around. I mean, it's just demonstrably true. Trump has tried to primary Thomas Massey before and it didn't work. Look at how, look at the margin in which he won re-election in, previous elections cycles and it's just incredible. He was like incredibly popular.

And by the way, what does the Israel lobby money get you? It gets you the resources necessary to put out the ads that make it appear as though, because look, the APAC funded ads and all that stuff, they didn't focus on like, oh, Thomas Massey refuses to fund Israel. No, of course they didn't focus on that. No, no, no, no. Because Israel's super unpopular, so they have to lie to you and pretend that Massey has other issues. Yes, like, oh, Massey has been a huge thorn in Trump side. He's,

he's disloyal to the Republican Party. He's disloyal to Trump. And when you also consider the fact that older voters show up to vote, especially in primaries, whereas younger voters don't, unfortunately, Massey was at a significant disadvantage because the 65 and up voters saw those ads, saw those AI ads, probably didn't even know they were AI ads, probably think that Thomas Massey is in a thruple with AOC. And Ilhan Omar, They got super motivated, they show up to vote. Yeah, so the guys, the people who gave them money are among them are Mary Madelson, Paul Singer. These are huge pro-Israel donors that have given in many races.

And they say, well, no, they're really concerned about Tom Massey's position on the border. Really? Because why did Mary Madelson give money to the Democrats before them? Because they don't care about the border, they don't care about anything but Israel. They buy off the Democrats and the Republicans. That's the same people gave George Latimer, 18 million dollars to defeat Jamal Bowman. And $14 million to defeat Cory Bush, who were both Democrats. They don't care. The only thing they care about is Israel, but they never put Israel in the ads.

Instead, they lie to you and pretend they care about other things to smear anyone who would dare oppose Israel. Now, Anna, to me, the most amazing part is that not Shabu, Shabu, I get it. Everybody's got propaganda. And the fascist government like Israel has a lot of them. In fact, they brag all the time about their Hussbera. And Naftali Bennett, who's leading candidate in the next election in Israel, put out a whole outline today of all the new Hasbara that they have to do, propaganda to convince the West to support Israel no matter what they do, all the atrocities and how to bury that news and how to

elevate fake news, et cetera. So I get shabu, shabu, but mainstream media, all of them today in unison exactly as predicted, saying, oh, no, the $16 million that the Israeli lobby gave didn't have any. any effect at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're so right, Jake. You're so right. And by the way, they've given to 94% of Congress, but that had no effect because the politicians

don't get affected by millions of dollars. No, no, you have, those are all facts and they can't deny those facts, but they say facts have a well-known history of anti-Semitism. Totally, you're exactly right, you're exactly right. Okay, so now I want to get to the final moment that's worthy of discussion. Because I noticed that when people like this propagandist, Kestenbaum, are in front of a room full of Jewish students, he'll throw around the power of the Israel lobby and how powerful Zionists are in the United States.

But when he's on a debate panel, he says something entirely different. Now the topic at hand here is Zionist influence over our media. Let's start off with what he said when I confronted him with his own words, E5. I'm so happy you brought that up right now. Yeah, go ahead. Anna, you don't understand. You just now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah, get ready. Okay, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I brought that up by saying, I actually used you as an example. So I'll send you after this. I'll send you the full quote. I said that we've seen the entire video. Okay, I've seen the whole thing. Also, it's pronounced Shabbis.

I encourage you to also keep it. President Trump just issued a proclamation incurring Americans to keep Shabbat. I encourage you to do something shab. Oh my God, just shoot me in the head. I had said, gladly, I had said, I had said, I had said, I had I know. You're not right. Okay, okay.

For culture, right? No, no, no, no. None of that. Individuals are free to lobby their government. No, no, no, a lot of that. They showed every day. And then I used as an example of people will say lies. So they will say that American Jews, they will say APEC, they will say Israel controls your

life. And so I pretended for the sake of argument. Let's assume that's true. Okay. Why don't you do something in response? Elect candidates. This is the problem I have with the woke right. If you believe that we're controlled by foreign government, okay.

So put up sensible candidates and get them into pass. So right before that video started, I had actually read a direct quote from Shabu's Kestenbaum when he was in front of a room full of Jewish students. He was talking about the control, Zionist control of US media. And I want you to watch what he said and then ask yourself, the statement in the video you just watched, was that an honest statement in regard to what he said in that room full of Jewish students? Let's take a look.

What a pathetic philosophy of life. Because if you think AIPAC controls government, this is a free country. Build your own lobbying group and lobby for your causes. You think Jews control Hollywood, okay, create your own content. You think that Israel is a foreign policy blunder, okay, well then go to DC and advocate for your beliefs. It's just such a victimhood mentality that is so dumb and really makes you a loser. And I think that's the argument that we should probably go for.

I think it's probably more effective to just say, all right, Nick Fuentes, you're right, we control the media. So what are you going to do about it? You're going to bitch on Twitter? Like, okay, meanwhile, we're going to control more of the media. You're willing to admit it in front of a room full of Jewish students. You're willing to boast about it. But, you know, when you're in front of the non-Jews who might have a problem with that,

you say something entirely different, don't you? Takia. Okay, so apparently it's Takia Tuesday. Okay, so now let's break that down. He said he was joking, you just saw the video, did it look like he was joking? It didn't to me. You guys can make up your own mind, but it didn't look like he was joking at all, not 1%. And he also did something that they're doing a lot more these days.

They're now so confident that they have complete control, and I'm not talking about Jewish people, I'm talking about Israel supporters, that they're starting to rub it in now. They're doing the same thing Ben-Gavir did with the flotilla people, trying to humiliate people. By the way, every Palestinian occupied territory says they have gone through vicious humiliation by the Israelis that occupy them, right? So that's why he says, they're a bunch of losers, they couldn't make it. And now I see all over social media, oh, you guys are all just jealous of us. Yeah, keep doing that. Better than you. And we did better than you, and we're richer than you. By the way,

you're not allowed to say we're richer than you. You're not allowed to say we control the media. We're allowed to say it, and we're allowed to rub it in your face, and we're allowed to call you a loser. And every time you complain about now, another one that they have all over social media is, cry harder. Okay, so I just want to take one thing that he said. Then you can't, you can't be upset when people hate you. If that's going to be your behavior, you can't be upset when people dislike you. No, he would then say, because there's no end to their victimhood, no, I'm allowed to humiliate

you. I'm allowed to rub it in. But if you complain about it, anti-Semite, you're the real one who's immoral. Like there's no end to their BS anti-Semitism claims. Of course, yeah. So it's just a dumpster fire of weaponized anti-Semitism. So they're all Jesse Smollett. They're like, oh, oh, I'm the, right?

That's shaboo shaboo in a freaking nutshell right there. But I like that they're taping themselves. Like when they're internal, they're like, okay, guys, we all love Israel, right? We're humiliating the Americans, we're taking their money and we own their media. And then when we say this, and then they just repeat us, and they quote us, we'll call them anti-semites. What a great trick, right? That is actually what you look like.

Okay, so I'm not exaggerating. You guys look ridiculous now, how you get to say literally, I mean, all right, I can go on and on with a thousand examples of this, but I got to say one last thing here. He said, create your media and own media. Like, don't complain about Hollywood, go to Hollywood and start a company or do something in Hollywood. I actually totally agree with that. In fact, that's why I started my own media company.

I'm not a guy who whines or cries, I just do it. I take action. You do do it, you're right. And so what's happened? Oh, when David Ellison starts his own media company, daddy gives him tens of billions of dollars, and he can buy Paramount and Warner Brothers and CNN and TikTok. So, well, he's such a doer, he's a man of action. You know, you get 20, 40, 50 billion dollars, man, you go and buy those companies.

Wow, you sound like you're a real capitalist and a real doer, right? Me on the other hand, I start this company with no money. We started in my one-bedroom apartment in the living room. We put a couple of mics in. So, okay, so what's happened since then? Well, through the beauty of this country, which I love so much, I've had the opportunity to grow it. And now we're one of the larger media companies. But are we flush with cash like David Ellison or the others?

No, we're starved of cash. Why, since we've criticized Israel, most of the investment community has gone away. And they've let it be known that we are opposing Israel. That is why they've turned off all the taps. And then they go, why didn't you create your own media company? Good luck, try to do it with no money. And here's billions of dollars to help Israel. He knows what he's doing.

He knows exactly what he's doing. So did they overpay for free press? They bragged about overpaying for free press. They said, here, we're going to give you way more than you deserve because you're pro-Israel. Right? So if you're pro-Israel, there's bags of money everywhere. Here, Ben Shapiro, Dennis Prager, David Rubin, all these guys. Now go do Israeli propaganda, right? If you're not gonna do Israeli propaganda, no money for you. That doesn't mean you can't make it. We're still gonna make it, we're still gonna kick their ass, and

we're still gonna have the largest news network in the country. But that is despite every obstacle that pro-Israel people put, because they don't want anyone in this country, or any country being able to criticize Israel. They want propaganda in every single country about how wonderful Israel is, and how, by the way, not just that, but how terrible the terrorist Palestinians are. You should all hate the Palestinians. They're all terrorists, they deserve to be murdered. Israel's doing your favor by murdering them.

Give me money, give me money. Oh, look at that, I happen to get money from your government. Now flush with cash. I'm rich, you're not, you're a loser. You're a loser, he says, after they bribe all of our government officials, and then they get $320 billion from us. They steal, yes, steal from us by using their bag men, the dirty politicians in America. And then they go, look at all the money, we stole from you, ha ha, we're rich and you're a loser.

Say it one more time, Shabu, Shabu. Call America's losers one more time, Shammu. Okay. I just, I can't. Okay. I have a pretty good sense of who's an effing loser. All right, we'll be back. You're double my age.

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