The Young Turks - Biden His Time

Episode Date: July 6, 2024

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319 3 martin Drop it like it's a bite-it-it-like it's a Biden sentence. Live from the Polymarket Studio in LA, it is a power panel for the young Turks. Lots of news about Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Donald Trump. Jake U. Juga, John Irola, Ramesh, Surin Abbasin, Ramesh, of course, a UCLA professor, and the host of the Utopias podcast. John, of course, the host of Damage Report.

So tons of things to get to guys. Now there is a movement within Congress who's leading it to push Biden out. Are they going to be successful? We have all the developments. Is it going to become a Harris or a different candidate? Who's leading right now? We've got it all for you guys. Now let's get started.

That's question for you. What do you say to the people who plan on sitting this election out? Same thing that was said to me when I was the young kid getting out of school during the civil rights movement. If you don't do something about it, you're to blame. You're responsible. Now we're about to show you more clips from Joe Biden and figure out who's actually responsible. My guess is not the voters, but Joe Biden himself. But we'll let you be the judge. John, what more do you have on the story? Well, we've got some fascinating clips, actually.

That was, of course, Joe Biden in an appearance on WURD's The Source. with Andrea Lawful Sanders. And as you saw there, he basically said, if you sit out, you're responsible, not just for your own actions, but seemingly responsible for whatever ends up happening to America or its government. That's one way to try to persuade people to vote for you. What people are calling for Biden to do, of course, is to reassure people that he has the capacity to not only be president, but to campaign in a way that gives people confidence he can actually win this thing. Now that's not necessarily what he focused. focused on in the actual appearance, but let's turn to what he did actually do.

We have him talking a little bit about Trump and lodging some not incredibly strong attacks against his opponent. Now he's saying if he loses in 2024, it'll be a blood bad. Can you imagine the president saying that? A blood dad? Can I imagine? No, I really mean it. And so the Supreme Court just issued a decision that threatens America principle. but there are no kings in America. But no one is above the law. He gave Trump complete power to use his office to. And exact revenge, organize a coup,

who was a dictator because they give him, if he's doing in this capacity, there's an office based on how this gets interpreted, that he has immunity. My God, the stakes are really high. They're really high. Democracy, freedom, our economy are all in the line. So show up and vote for your own

safety safe. Show up and go for your own safety safe. So what you hear him saying, they're focusing on Donald Trump and the threat that Donald Trump poses to our government. The threat that Donald Trump nominated and confirmed Supreme Court justices pose of the country is a big threat to the country is, I would say, a great reason to vote for Joe Biden if Joe Biden is the nominee on election day. It is not a great argument for him to be the nominee though. Because if we do believe him if we agree with him that the stakes are incredibly high, well then all the more reason to have the strongest possible candidate. And right now, I don't think there's a lot of voters that

need to be convinced that Donald Trump is threatening or bad. Those who can be convinced of that arguably have been over the last basically a decade. What they're worried about right now is whether he's going to be able to beat him. And so talking about Donald Trump is just not a way to accomplish that. And it's not to say that he doesn't have sort of a strategy for the campaign to try to to reassure people. He's doing some other radio interviews. He obviously has a big interview with George Stephanopoulos later on tonight. They're going to be doing what they're calling an aggressive travel schedule this month that will take him and the first lady and the second gentleman to every battleground state following calls from

allies to ramp up campaigning and public messaging efforts. That's a travel schedule. I will leave it to the historians to say whether it's aggressive or not, you should be heading to the battleground states in the months leading up to the election. But they also say they expect to engage in frequent off the cuff moments over the course of the month as he has consistently throughout this campaign, which starts off kind of reassuring and gets incredibly defensive in its second half. But bear in mind that travel, at least according to him, is one of the reasons he's ended up in the difficult position that he's in because he has recently said that it was his travel around the world in the weeks leading up to the debate that led to him not being as

prepared or energetic as he could have been. Of course, there was a gap of about a week and a half between the travel and the debate. So not all of this is super reassuring. And if you went into the last couple of days wondering how he's going to manage this, people who are questioning whether he should be the nominee probably or not that reassured. But Jank, what do you think? Yeah, so look guys, every time he talks, we're on pins and needles. And if you're worried that your candidate can't make it through the simplest interview in the world,

he's the wrong candidate. And there is no aggressive schedule. This is nonsense. Think about this. He had to debate on Thursday. Epic debacle. The parties in the middle of a cave-in. All the senators are panicking.

Congressmen are panicking. Governors are, et cetera. And now we're at Friday, eight days later. So he did a rando, rando pre-taped interview that you just saw there. By the way, in the middle of that interview, he called himself the first black vice president. vice president, okay, they're going to say, oh, slip up. Yeah, but brother, you can't afford slip-ups now, okay?

So I know you're not great at talking, but that's another giant problem. And especially when you're down this much, he's now down to 36% approval rating. You cannot win if you're in the 30s. Remember, he's got to mount a near miraculous comeback. He was already super far down. Now he's buried, and he has to do the most miraculous political comeback. Literally in American history, does it sound like he's the guy who's going to be able to do that? And what would I have done otherwise?

What would any strong, healthy Democratic candidate do? After that debate, if you screwed up the debate and you're worried about it, and especially if you've got an age issue and people are concerned about it, you go out there and do 12 interviews. You do them live, you do a press conference, you do events, and you show massive energy. And you say, this is how I fight back, right? And you do it with incredible vigor. one rando hidden interview, and now he's going to go on with Stephanopoulos, and then they cut it down to 15 minutes.

These are really bad signs. When you can't handle a very, very, very normal interview with a former Democratic, you know, staffer, let's keep it real on George Stephanopoulos. Look, he'll do the toughest interview he can. I'm not getting on Stephanopoulos. I'm just saying it's not a super hostile interview, and they're both pre-tape. Now, this, we're just Biden our time, if you will, until he's out. He's definitely going out. I called it earlier.

Now I've got it on an expedited schedule. I think he's going out by Monday. And so I know that's super aggressive. Here we are on Friday. But he's not going to survive that ABC interview. He's not going to survive any of these appearances. I mean, he had this simplest little affair in the lawn of the White House for 4th of July. And he said, oh, ho, oh, happy 4th of July.

No, wrong holiday. Wrong holiday. And then in other places, he's rambling and he's a disaster. And you see Secretary Austin in the background going, please finish, please finish, please finish. And that's how we all feel about the entire campaign. I mean, everybody remembers four years ago, Biden was an extremely weak candidate who underperformed in the final votes compared to actually the prediction, you know, in various battleground states. And moreover, and maybe we also remember four years ago when Biden was on the breakfast club where he basically said to the audience that if you don't vote for me, you're not black.

What's the point here? Both with this story as well as that example from four years ago, you do not shame people to vote for you. You do not blame people who do not vote for you. You earn people's votes. And how do you earn people's votes? Well, at this point, Biden, who was already trailing in polls before the debacle from last week, week already had an incredible onus upon him to not just show health and vigor and energy and his ability to sustain himself, not just in a campaign outside of reading from a teleprompter, but to actually show that he had a legitimate vision for the US. And that's the other thing that's implicit, John, when you were describing the story

and introducing this story a few moments ago is it often seems that the president is in denial of realities. And this is not merely a health and mental health issue. You know, wait a second, you know, many times we hear, wait a second, this is the United States of America. What does he mean by that, right? It's like he's in denial of the reality, which we've talked about last time about Jenk, that Donald Trump is the biggest movement leader in the United States right now. There's a populism outside of it.

And no matter what Biden says, which he keeps trying to do, saying reassuring people, things are fine, things are fine, things are fine, when he's mentally able, things are fine, things are good, things are good. That's not how people perceive things to be. So you have to speak to how people perceive things to be. People perceive things to be that the democracy is broken, economic justice is broken, so many things are broken, and it's important for a candidate to show an actual vision

of the future moving forward, and he's clearly not even capable of doing that, let alone doing the basics of participating in a debate and getting beaten without his mental health failing, right? And so this is a point that James David Axelrod, DNC insiders who do not particularly have much of a vision for the future, in my opinion, or the people that they represented like Obama don't have a real vision for the future. They themselves are saying that what Biden needs to speak to, which requires a healthy person, is a vision of America moving forward that recognizes disaffection.

Yeah, so look, the reason Carvel and I don't want Biden to be the nominee, it's not because we agree on policy, it's that we both want to win. It's not that complicated. So that's going to get into the Kamala Harris conversation later in the live show. You know, the show is live Monday through Friday at 6 o'clock Eastern. So but one more thing here, guys, 16 points. That's how much Joe Biden is down from when he barely won last time. So just stopping the bleeding, nowhere near good enough. Staying in place, nowhere near good enough.

He has stopped bleeding, stay, get him his legs on a room. And then he's going to pick up 16 miraculous points. This is so beyond over. Anyone's still saying that Biden should be the nominee is preposterous. Now I'm going to have to go and do debates. I'm going to do a debate with Destiny. You can check it out right here on the Young Turks channel at 5 o'clock Eastern on Saturday. And Joe Walsh, former Republican Congress, who I often agree with.

But look, I don't know what the hell they're going to say other than we're mental and we'd love to lose this election to Trump. That there's no defense of Biden if you want to beat Trump. But if you want to defer to authority and obey, then okay, you stick with Biden and go, well, we'll take the loss. In fact, we'll take a landslide because now he's losing non-swing states. midnight in on Friday. It's good to have a routine. And it's good for your eyes too. Because with regular comprehensive eye exams at Specsavers, you'll know just how healthy they are. Visit Spexavers.cavers.cai to book your next eye exam. I exams provided by independent optometrists. to be the case and it always has been back to Hillary Clinton. Like when they feel like

they've got their person, they don't want to let go. They sink their teeth in and they won't release it. And it's easy for us as outsiders, I think, to see that and criticize it. But we don't know if we would do the same thing if a progressive was the candidate. And the reason we don't know that is it's literally never been the case. It would be cool someday if it was actually. But anyway, you talked about stemming the bleeding. So let's turn to the other part of the strategy. So they're gonna spend $50 million, which is a lot of money on a paid media blitz in July. Okay, so they're gonna be doing what they're calling strategic investments designed to draw a whole bunch of eyes, including younger voters. So they're gonna focus on events like the Olympics, maybe they'll get Simone Biles to do an ad or something,

and the Republican National Convention. So they're gonna focus on battle battleground state voters and TV, radio, and digital ads. So the issues they're gonna focus on include abortion, the economy, and democracy. And all of that is fine. All of that is also exactly what they've been doing the entire time. So I'm not entirely sure how that's going to radically change things. Maybe people will be paying more attention now than they were, you know, three months, six months ago. But I would also make the case, like if the only thing, the most important thing to you is Donald Trump losing in November, you likely do care about abortion, the economy and democracy. But I would make the case to you that Joe Biden is in no like way a great person to focus on those topics.

topics. The economy is doing better, but he is always going to be tied to what people consider very hard times during the first term. With democracy, he's not seen as a vigorous, strong defender on abortion. They didn't pass legislation in his first year to protect it. So look, in an abstract sense, he's a Democrat. He's going to be fine on those things, but only as much as any other Democrat and not as much as others. Harris at least could focus on abortion in a way that he apparently according to the debate is not able to speak to it with passion. In terms of the economy, other candidates would not be tied to the last four years. They'd be able to just talk about going forward rather than being weighed down by it. And so

it's fine to run these ads, but what they're describing here is not a radical departure or a new strategy. It's we're going to go to the swing states. We're going to run ads. That's just a campaign. That's literally any campaign. That's the campaign you had a month ago. You've been raising more money. Maybe you can spend more, but this does not signal to me that they understand that they are in very different waters than they had been. Do you read any of this differently?

Yeah, no. So breaking news right now, we're going to cover Mark Warner, a senator asking for Biden to drop out a little bit later in the live show. But Biden has just responded to it saying that he's, quote, completely ruling that out, stepping down, completely ruling it out. Now, I don't believe him for a second. I think that they're trying to figure out what to do with Kamala Harris. I think they're trying to figure out how to certify the delegates. I think they're trying to get things done behind the scenes. And remember, whenever you're in this much trouble, you can't show any weakness. So if he said, oh,

I'm considering it, it would only create a bigger frenzy. So no matter whether he's considering it or not, he has to say, I'm definitely staying in the race. Either way. And it's not like he's got a truth telling record to protect. I mean, he's been in this shape for at least six months. I would argue a lot longer, and they've been lying to you all along. So what's an extra couple of lies telling you, oh, we're not even considering it, right? So is the $50 million is going to make a difference? The hell no.

There's a couple of billion dollars at a minimum is going to be spent on the presidential race alone. Actually, far more than that. But they're burning that $50 million, spending it on Biden when he could actually give it to a Super PAC who would spend it on the new candidate. So every dollar they spend on Biden is a dollar they can't spend on a candidate who could actually beat Trump. And the idea that you're gonna run a standard campaign, which by the way, it's not even standard, even the tiny amount of appearances he's gonna do, he's now strictly

talking from a teleprompere. He says he's gonna go unscripted, I haven't seen it. The one time he went unscripted was on the lawn and he did like 90 seconds of rambling where they were all like, oh please, please stop talking. And it looked terrible. So I don't believe a word they're saying, I think they're gonna burn that money and they're burning time.

The new candidate needs time to get up and running. And we need time to figure out who the new candidate's gonna be. They've gotta have a little bit of a tussle here. And the strongest candidate has to emerge. Every single minute and dollar we spend on Biden is money absolutely wasted when we have no money or time to waste to beat Donald Trump. Yeah, and that's why, Jenk, we see donors, the mainstream media now, and centrist Democrats like Mark Warner, who's probably a pretty good buddy of Joe Biden's on many levels for probably many years, saying, hey, this is pretty clear.

Your clear mental health issues are, you know, your age, you know, and I don't begrudge anyone for being old, but they should not be making it so much about themselves or their family making it so much about themselves and their own power to take everybody down with. with them, right? And so if you actually look at this, look at these three planks that you mentioned, John, economy, abortion, and democracy. With the economy, it's just eminently clear. Sure, unemployment is down, but wages are not sufficient to keep up both with inflation as well as costs. And that's just a clear sort of writings on the wall issue that there has not really been a clear articulated set of policies and visions to combat. The youngest generation is the first to make less than their parents in the history of the US. Guess what? They're not particularly psyched about Biden. Life expectancy is decreasing. They're not, that's not great. People can't afford

housing. It's all being swooped up by the vanguard and these, you know, holding companies with democracy. What happened to the John Lewis voting rights bill? You know, what happened to trying to stop the filibuster or push legislation through with abortion? So I think it's just sort of like, you know, us progressives, we can see very clearly that, you know, you got to walk the walk, So what have you actually done on these issues other than, you know, kind of use say sort of vague cliches about it? But I think most people, most voters feel like that things that they actually want, which might be tied to these three themes, economy, democracy and abortion, are not actually happening. So outside of the mental health stuff, the age stuff, which is clearly like, you know, crisis, you know, red alarm crisis, this, the question of who has a political vision around these themes that why, that

that, that allude to why people are unhappy with the status quo is what's missing. And, you know, we've said this for years, progressives are the ones with a vision. So it's actually absolutely critical we not, at this time, not just, I mean, it's important to get Biden out of there, but also whoever comes in have to push at least some progressive vision into what they stand for. Yeah, they won't. Look, I just, I need anyone with literally a pulse. Like, rematch is 100% right.

Go towards economic populism. Talk about increasing people's wages during inflation. Duh. I mean, these are the bare minimum. Talk about universal health care. How are you going to get people help? Talk about how you did the child tax credit for one year and it was a spectacular success.

As there some bitch Republicans weren't in your way, you'd do it again. But this guy's not capable of any of that. I don't know that Kamala Harris is capable of any of that. I just, is there a person who could speak in the Democratic Party? Put together sentences, be compelling. Give a speech where people go, yeah, instead of going, oh, no, it's a well, oh, my God. Oh, thank God.

Who, he didn't say, oh, he, damn it, he said something crazy, like terrible again or lost his train of thought, et cetera. If you're worried to death that your candidate is going to ruin every appearance that he has, and it's going to make it worse, not better, and he's down 16 points from when he barely won. And you can't see that that's the wrong candidate. You're trying super hard not to see it. You blinded yourself on purpose because the cable news taught you obedience and told you, remember, you should, we should never have democracy within a democratic party as we try to protect democracy. We should anoint leaders.

We anointed Hillary Clinton because she was the only one who could be, oops, be Trump. Then you're anointed Biden in 2024. How is all this anointing turning out for us? disastrously. Let's go. Let's go to the bullpen. Anyone who can pitch. Let's go. Okay, and we are going to go to our first break, jank, but we're going to talk about that breaking news around Senator Warner and more after this. Nissan. Buy your tickets now. I get a free chili dog. Chilly dog, not included. The Naked God. Tickets on sale now. August 1st. Okay, let's turn to our next story. Breaking news from the Washington, John. We're mesh with you guys. And Vick YAR, thank you for gift to the membership on YouTube. Appreciate it. John. Okay, let's turn to our next story.

Breaking news from the Washington Post. Apparently a team is going to be assembled by Senator Mark Warner, incorporating a number of different Senate Democrats who have yet to be named, that are going to go to the White House and talk to Joe Biden and encourage him to drop out of the presidential race. This is something people have been wondering about since the debate. Are we going to have a Nixon style private conversation to tell him to do the right thing? And according to two anonymous sources, this is actually coming. So Warner is telling Democratic senators that, Biden can no longer remain in the election in the wake of his debate performance. Warner has told others that he's deeply concerned that Biden is not able to run a campaign that could beat former President Donald Trump. Warner has not confirmed or denied the report, at least as of when we're recording this. But a spokesperson for Warner said like many other people in Washington and across the country, Senator Warner believes these are critical days for the president's campaign and he has made that clear to the White House. There are a a number of elected Democrats that have called for Biden to step down. None of them are in the

Senate, at least as of right now. But a lot of reporters have said that although they won't go on the record, anonymously, these senators seem just as worried as many Democratic governors do, that not only is he likely moving towards losing the race, but that it could imperil the Senate, the Democrats' chance of maintaining control of the Senate, taking control of other bodies. And so we don't know who might be on this team with Warner. And as we spoke about earlier in the show, Biden has now come out in response to this reporting, which again hadn't even been confirmed to say that he will not under any circumstances step down, take that with a massive grain of salt. But Jank, what do you make of this? They're finally getting together some of

the senior politicians to put pressure. Yeah, about time should have happened a long time ago. It's now been eight days since the debacle of the debate. All the Democratic Party is doing is slipping further and further away from victory. There's only four months left. They're running as we showed it to you a couple of days ago. They're running one against Bob Casey, senator from Pennsylvania, saying, look at Biden. And then they showed decrepit Biden. And they go, but how long has Bob Casey known about this?

Are they all lying to you? Look at these lying Democratic senators telling you that Joe Biden's fine. As if you don't have eyes and ears, they're all insulting your intelligence. Those are incredibly effective ads. The Democratic Party will bleed out two to five points in mass, which means House is gone, Senate's gone, everything's gone. All those swing states are already gone. Now we're into three non-swing states.

Now we've got a poll saying Biden's losing in New Jersey. We're talking in talking about a historic haven. So Mark Warner is saying something super obvious. Do we all want to go down with the ship? Do we want this, you know how everybody who's talking about, oh, Donald Trump's going to end the Republican Party all the way back in 2016? Do you remember Bill Clinton played golf with Donald Trump and convinced him to run? Because they thought, oh, this will be, he'll screw up the Republican Party so bad. And then when he won the nomination, everybody's like, don't worry about it.

All these morons on television and mainstream media and Democratic leadership. Oh, we've got this figured out. Donald Trump's definitely going to lose Hillary Clinton and he's just going to destroy the Republican Party. No, at this, not only did he not do that, he's cruising to victory right now, because Democratic leadership is a bunch of incompetent liars, and they put up the weakest possible candidate we have, and now they're sticking with him. So, but the problem with the Democratic Party is that obedience has become the number one trait of the Democratic Party. So what Mark Warner is doing is super obvious to the rest of us, but to like the Democratic Party, that's like

heresy. Opposing a Democratic leader. You can't do that. It's almost like it's against their religion or something. So in reality, Joe Biden is destroying the Democratic Party. Trump isn't destroying the Republican Party. So you can believe any fairy tale you want. But numbers live in objective reality. And these numbers are showing not only is Biden going to lose, It's going to be a landslide with Trump having a mandate to destroy this government and having all of Congress. So this Mark Warner rebellion cannot come quickly enough. I saw Peter Welch and Sheldon White House a couple of days ago make some comments like,

oh yeah, we're concerned. That was a very bad night. We're past concerned. We're at, let's go. Push the guy out. Push the guy out. You're worried about feelings? Well, all of our feelings are going to be hurt when Donald Trump wins and easily and says,

I now have a mandate from the American people to do whatever I want. And that's what Joe Biden's leading to. And it's in our in arguable. There is no second argument. There's just, well, we should obey. And when or if Trump wins, guess who's going to get blamed progressives, right? And voters and young people, black and brown people. They're going to blame everybody, like the losers that they are.

are. That's what they always do. They don't have a second plan. And all of us are going to be treated as we're ignorant. And, you know, there's a certain kind of elitism tied to the Democratic Party leadership that sort of just assumes that we are intelligent enough to know that Biden is better than Trump, even without making any case for such, or that somehow this person who's clearly not well is well. We're just supposed to believe that. And it's just, it insults our intelligence. This shaming and insulting our intelligence as voters is not something, it's not good to treat other people like they're dumb or they should that they are worthy of shame when you're the one telling other people what how to think and how to feel. And, you know, the down ballot implications of all of this are massive. So, you know, Mark Warner is using common sense. He in policy, you know, senses is not particularly different than Biden. I've actually worked on tech policy. with some of his staff, usually they just blame China for everything when it comes to tech. But it's like it's just it's just incredible how and we've seen this again and again and again

since 2016, how everything that the Republican Party, the RNC Trump himself represents, has all been flipped on its head and used against the Democrats because they're so elitist. So what am I getting at here? Trump is a record liar. He relied constantly in the debate. He He didn't have anything positive to say about the United States. Everything was the border and immigrants and all this sort of weird rambling, right? But it's like the liar in chief that is Trump, now that's going to be flipped and turned on to the Democrats. Because clearly people are going to say, are going to be like you were insulting our intelligence to say that this guy was mentally well enough or in health well enough to run and sustain a campaign when he clearly wasn't. So down ballot races.

And here's the big question. Is this really the best the country has? Or are we talking about a corporate duopoly that has to be changed and challenged by progressives? And just a little reminder, you know, because I know I worked for Sanders campaign. I know that there was support amongst the Young Turks audience of Sanders campaign. They would much rather, the donor class would much rather have, in my opinion, Biden or Trump, than a real progressive like Bernie. For sure, but I got to say, guys, at this late stage, in my opinion,

It's not about progressives versus establishment Democrats at all. So I find myself on the same side as Mark Warner, who is a very corporate conservative Democrat. I find myself on the same side as James Carville, who is oftentimes conservative Democrat. And so it's no longer left versus right within the Democratic Party. It's people who would like to win versus people who don't care about winning and care about leadership's feelings and who they should obey. So there is no argument that Joe Biden can win this election, none. So I know that that's like impossible for you to believe if you watch cable news, because they keep telling you, like, they just start saying, I wonder if Biden could lose.

They're just, it's a massive lie factory. Biden was already disastrously behind before the debate. Now it's totally unrecoverable. No chance at all. he's not going to make up 16 points in a matter of foremost. He's going down, not up. This is all absurd. But one more thing.

Look, as we showed you earlier in the show, Joe Biden blamed the voters if he loses, right? So I want to ask you if you're an average Democratic voter. Do you think that this is your fault? Or do you think maybe it's Joe Biden's fault and Democratic leadership's fault for trying to placate his gigantic ego and saying, Oh, I am the greatest. Only I can defeat Trump. Even if I'm 81, I can't finish a sentence.

It has to be me, me, me. Now, is it that guy's fault or is it your fault? What did you do? Did you somehow pick Joe Biden? Did you say, hey, oh my God, I want to put all my eggs in the 81 year old basket? No, in every poll that was asked, 72% of Americans now up to 80% of Americans saying we don't think he's mentally well enough to run. That means 80% of Americans don't think his brain is working well enough.

What an unbelievable bunch of pathological liars, which leads to remission's point, which is that you're throwing away a giant democratic advantage in this election. Trump is the liar. But now, every minute we stick with Biden, the label of liar is going to get stuck on the Democratic Party. And we're going to have a hell of a time unsticking it. Because our leadership is a bunch of liars. And they're lying to you most importantly. You know how Trump, his number one target, his mark as a con man, is not us, it's MAGA voters.

Same exact thing for Democratic leadership. Their target isn't MAGA or even independence. Their mark is Democratic voters. They're like, if we could just get them to believe anything we say. Maybe if we put up a guy who's barely alive and tell them not to believe they're lying eyes. And he's in the 30s and he has no chance of winning. Doesn't matter, we'll tell him he has a great chance of winning. Let's see how much we can lie and get away with.

Those are the people who have destroyed the Democratic Party. Can I say one thing, the problem also John and Jenk is that these Democratic voters that they keep trying to, you know, repeat this sort of denial of reality to, it's generally being messaged only through mainstream media rather than where many of us who are, you know, 15 under or even 60 and under get our media and get our, get our information. And so I don't think some subset of CNN, MSNBC voters and NPR listeners who are, is sufficient to, to hold, you know, hold the fort down here. Yeah, they're just going to the well. And they're like, hey, the guys that we've programmed to believe everything we say, because they watch MSNBC, or we're just going to get, you can't win the election with just MSNBC viewers. Yet there's a huge opportunity for Biden to do this maneuver, like basically say, hey, I did my best. I love this country so much. I realize I can't do it any longer. I'm here to be a transition to the next generation, like he said, years ago.

And actually, this is my hopefulness that this whole thing can be turned on its face through some political skill. And I know that maybe he's not the emblematic of it. But hopefully Mark Warner's also meeting with Jill Biden and Hunter Biden. Well, the only person who's making the decision is the first lady, keep it real. So they have to somehow confess the first lady, who I don't know how much she knows about politics, that to put her ego aside. I know she'd like to be president for a second term, but can you please care about the voters? Can you please care about democracy that you said was on the line?

So every Democratic senator should join Mark Warner. And by the way, you should take note. Anyone who doesn't join the rebellion are the people who didn't mind losing at all. And are the people who lied to you throughout this entire. process. We've talked about the senators who might try to put pressure on Biden. Why don't we turn now to people with actual power, the donors? Can we talk about this, Jenk?

Yeah. So there's only one set of people who could actually take Joe Biden up. And that, unfortunately, is not the voters. It's not the senators who are now an open rebellion. It's the donors. And it's the donors that put him into place. It's the donors that are his source of power. So if he loses that source of power, he has no power left and has to withdraw.

So with that in mind, John, what's the state of the donors right now? Well, there's both individuals and organizations of donors who are coming together. to try to force some sort of alternative going forward. One group of donors is working to raise as much as $100 million for a sort of escrow fund called the next generation pack that would be used to support a replacement candidate. If Biden were not to step down, the money could be used to help down ballot candidates, according to people close to the effort. At that point, it would function mainly like a normal super pack, but they're hoping that this huge sum of money that they can put together

as an incentive for a new candidate might influence, if not Biden, then some of the other people who might talk to him, there's a separate movement to just start moving money away from him to candidates for lower offices. Again, as like a pressure tactic, but also maybe just as a pragmatic move where they might think that the money would be wasted were it to be spent in the presidential race. So at least if we can maintain some seats in the House or Senate or state legislatures, that might be a better use of money. But let's focus now on a couple of individual So Gideen Stein is a donor and operative with deep connections in democratic politics. It said his family was withholding $3.5 million in planned donations to nonprofits and political organizations active in the presidential race unless he steps aside.

He's saying that we need a new ticket to have the best chance of defeating Donald Trump. And look, like regular people and like the elected officials, these wealthy donors are looking at the polls and it's just not going in the right direction. direction. Most recent New York Times, Santa College poll taken after the debate, has Biden down by six points among likely voters. That is not where you want to be as the incumbent. Let's turn to other donors. Abigail Disney is a granddaughter of the co-founder of the Walt Disney Corporation, said recently, I intend to stop any contributions to the party unless and until they replace Biden at the top of the ticket. This is realism, not disrespect. Biden is a good man and has served his country admirably, but the stakes are far too high. If Biden does not step

does not step down, the Democrats will lose. Of that, I am absolutely certain, the consequences for the loss will be genuinely dire. And goes on to say, just so you think, well, maybe you're just going for a progressive or something. No, we have an excellent vice president, as she goes on to say, if Democrats would tolerate any of her perceived shortcomings, even one-tenth as much as they have tolerated Bidens, and let's not kid ourselves about where race and gender figure in that inequity. And if Democrats can find a way to stop quibbling and rally around her, we can win this election by a lot. Which is not necessarily what the polling shows, but she does seem to perform at least as well and possibly more so.

And that's right now, not a month or two into more stumbles and, you know, bad debates and all that. We also have one more. Damon Lindelof, Hollywood producer and screenwriter, has already donated over $100,000 to Democrats this cycle says the checks give us access to power. We can shout as much as we want, but the pitcher will ignore us despite our checks, propose a dembargo, no checks written, no act blue links, claims, for anyone. And bear in mind that the Joe Biden campaign over the last couple of months has raised a lot of money. Just last month, they raised $127 million, which is 50% more than in the previous

month. And they did raise a lot of money in the immediate aftermath of the debate. Will that going forward stay the case? Will they be able to overwhelm the fact that they're losing some of these big donors? I don't know, Jank, what do you make of it? Yeah, so there's good news, bad news here. The bad news is now we're we're rooting on the donors to do the right thing. That's the pathetic state of American democracy. It reminds me of hunger games. Like, well, if the donors give you a tribute, you have a better chance of surviving.

But without the tributes, you know, it's very hard to survive if you're from the wrong district. So, but it is the fact of the matter, and they do get to decide. And they might not get to decide for a progressive candidate like Bernie Sanders, because he raises his money $27 at a time, but for establishment cans like Joe Biden, they don't have a second source of power. Their only source of power is money. And so the good news is now that these donors are saying, we are displeased with the person that we put in there, well, that's a huge problem for Biden. Without the donors, and now the Republicans running all those ads against Democratic Congress people destroying chances of winning Congress and ruining the down ballot

races. Those two factors add up to Joe Biden's not long for this race. So look, I already made a prediction a couple of days ago that he's definitely done. So then now, in my opinion, the question is when? And given how much he's bleeding out with donor money, meaning he's losing all of his power, I think he could be gone by Monday, depending on how he does in the Stephanopoulos interview on Friday and one more appearance. If he flubs them in any way, shape or form, he's a goner because no one's going to give him money. And that's the only thing that keeps him aflo. Yeah, it's a strange turn of events when donors who are, you know, who are sort of an example of part of the overall problem with the political system, the fact that donor money is

what actually props up most candidates and most political, these corporate duopolis. parties, that their calculations are what we're tying our hopes to right now as progressives. And, you know, Bernie in the second, second try in 2020, $18 average contribution. So that was even, it was even cooler. So I guess the point is, is that one thing that rich donors are probably pretty good at is knowing how to, what's worth their investment and what's worth them making more money off of their investment. And many donors would prefer a kind of corporate kind of pseudo liberal than a corporate fascist. And but I think it's just, you know, you said it again and again on this on this network, Jink. And John, Biden had the lowest approval rating for any incumbent before the debate in history, if I'm not mistaken.

You know, and this kind of this and when we went on and talk about Kamala Harris, you know, she pulled out of the 2020 campaign before the Iowa caucuses, Andrew Yang lasted longer than Kamala Harris. So I guess it's just high time. I mean, you know what propped up Biden was the donor class and the mainstream media and now both are cracking. Yeah, he's lost both those power bases. Last thing guys is remember the number one concern that the donors had that Biden addressed and why he became the candidate in 2020 was that promise he made them that nothing will fundamentally change. But now the donors are saying, we need something to fundamentally change. That's why Biden is the wrong guy for them. And the tide of history will sweep Biden out.

The only question is when. All right, we got to take another break. When we come back, we've got more news for you. Stay right here. All right, back on TYT, Jank, John. I'm mesh with you guys. I want to thank all these wonderful people that joined up through t-y-t.com slash team, where you could do a contribution or a donation, and we need it this year, and we appreciate you guys. And thank you for keeping us in business as we wound up telling you the truth.

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Hmm. Seasfire negotiations between Hamas and Israel have finally resumed after weeks of no progress at all. But that doesn't mean that it's likely to happen necessarily, or that if it does, it will happen necessarily soon. We're gonna give you all of the details and talk about some of the challenges that remain to getting an actual ceasefire. So the negotiations appear to still be based on the three stage ceasefire deal that the UN and Biden have previously endorsed. Here's basically how those three phases break down. The first would last six weeks and include the quote withdrawal of Israeli forces from all populated areas of Gaza. And that would also come with the release of a number of hostages including women, the elderly, and the wounded in exchange for the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners.

The next phase following that would allow for the exchange for the release of all remaining living hostages, including male soldiers. And then in phase three, Biden has said that it would be a major reconstruction plan for Gaza that would commence, and any final remains of hostages who've been killed will be returned to their families. So apparently, at least it was announced earlier this week, that Hamas says there's some position revising going on in relation to that. So they have shifted away from a demand for a full Israeli withdrawal during the first stage of a deal, phase that would involve the release of some hostages, as we said. And so they're no longer asking for a

100% ceasefire and withdrawal during that first six week period. It could be more of a gradual or stepped withdrawal and ceasefire. So that is a concession on their part. And apparently that was what caused Israel to resume the negotiations. An Israeli official who's not identified said on Wednesday night that wide gaps between the sides remained, but that Hamas is a revised position left potential to move forward in the talks, which is not a position that everyone in Israeli government currently holds, but at least it means that there are negotiations, so there is at least the possibility of a ceasefire. Cenk, what do you make of this?

Yeah, so this is really good news because it looks like Israel is finally giving up this nonsense goal of destroying Hamas completely. Nobody ever knew what that meant, they never defined it, it was undefinable and hence impossible from day one. We told you that it was just an excuse to destroy Gaza, and they have destroyed Gaza, and did they achieve their goal, according to their own intelligence officials, not remotely. So the key here is, is Israel going to leave? If they're going to leave in the third stage, then we've got a deal.

And everything's, at least for the moment being, it's going to be a ceasefire. Then we're going to have to worry about whether Israel is going to attack Lebanon and start a whole different war over there. But for the moment being, it looks like they're going in the direction of, yeah, we couldn't do it. They didn't get Yaya Senwar, who's the head of Hamas inside Gaza. They couldn't destroy Hamas overall. And Hamas is saying, we're not going to accept anyone staying in Gaza except Palestinians. We're not going to accept Israel. We're not going to accept an international peacekeeping force.

We're not going to accept a United Arab force. The Palestinians will control themselves. Look, would I rather have an international force in there? Look, probably, okay, better than Hamas. And definitely better than Israel, definitely better than both of them. But I don't get to make that decision. They've got to get to a negotiated settlement. And it looks like the negotiated settlement is going into a direction of Israeli withdrawal.

We hope, we hope, we hope so we can end this thing. But I'm going to give you a sense of why they're so despondent. Former intelligence official in the Israeli government, Milstein wrote in or said to the New York Times, the military can talk all at once about having dismantled battalions, but at the end of the day, Hamas has survived. We can tell ourselves stories all day long, but this is not even close to the so-called total victory over Hamas. And don't get him wrong, he's not saying let's stay. He's saying this is impossible. And now a lot of the military leadership is saying, what's the standard? Is it to kill every single person in Hamas? I don't know how many more people we can kill.

And so it looks like there is now a drive to end this thing. And knock on wood, I hope to God that that happens. But with Israel and Hamas, you never know until it's done. I mean, you occupy and brutalize people for decades upon decades upon decades. Gangsters will rise up as some sort of armed resistance, which will, and those gangsters will sometimes engage in terror actions, actions of terror. And that's what Hamas is. causes and conditions, right? There are causes and conditions around why Hamas exists. But, you know, I, I am unfortunately skeptical of this because I've been skeptical of Israel's

motives the entire time, because obviously Netanyahu's political fortunes seem to be tied to continuing on this war. And it's just been just incredibly unclear the entire time what Israel's end game was in all of this. of the true project of ethnic cleansing, which is the forced displacement of Palestinian people so that it could become their territory. I mean, but this proposed plan, if it actually happens, I'll be thrilled. It would be such a relief to have this horrible thing over. But in terms of creating Hamas, there's more and more Hamasas that are going to be born because people have

had their, I mean, everyone around them has been murdered, right? But I mean, and I mean, we can't even begin to talk about the scale of the destruction and devastation that Israel wrecked upon Gaza, tied to, of course, the horrific attack of Hamas on last October 7th. So, you know, what what Israel has said again and again, at least in interviews I've watched, is Hamas must fully surrender and demilitarize. That's clearly not what this is going to get them. So what exactly is going to come out of all of this? And how do you reconstruct a place where so many people in that place have been murdered? And, you know, infrastructure, institutions, hospitals, universities, places of cultural learning. Journalists are dead, are dead.

Yeah. And sorry to be cynical. No, of course. Look, we have to end the occupation. Occupation is a moral cancer. It's destroying both the Palestinians and Israel itself. That's not going to, this is not going to do that. But step one is to get Israel to stop killing people in Gaza and destroying Gaza.

I want to give one more quote from Michael Milstein, the former Israeli intelligence officer that I told you about. He was actually in charge of Palestinian affairs, so a division in the Israeli military intelligence. And he said it is an extremely difficult pill to swallow, but there are no good alternatives here. He's saying about Israel's position. He's like, because our alternatives are just stay there and keep pounding away at the Palestinians, but we're not getting Hamas. We're just not getting them. So we're either going to stay there in a bloody draw for as long as you can, you know, imagine,

or we're going to have to say at some point, yeah, of course we can't end all of Hamas and go home. And he's advocating for let's wrap this thing up. And that's a good positive thing. John. Yeah, the only thing I would add is the lack of ability of people to understand that devastating a country, devastating a civilian population is not going to de-radicalize the population. We're seeing that here is something we saw through like years and years and years in Iraq and Afghanistan. And I think it's fundamentally, it's a thing of empathy. If you do not see another population as being truly human, you do not think that they would react to something the way.

you would. Every one of the Israelis that thinks this is a good strategy and every one of the Americans that thought that what was going on in Iraq and Afghanistan was going to end ISIS or whatever, if you asked them, if your family was bombed and you lost six family members, would you surrender or would you fight for the rest of your life? Every single one of them would say, I would never stop fighting the people that did that. Every one of them would say that. And none of them believe that that is how others will respond, because they don't think of them as people the way they are. So as with so many things in politics, and including international affairs, just actually seeing people as people, I think you go a long way to avoiding

some of the constant bloodshed and suffering that we experience as a people. Yes, and last thing on this guys, the two far right parties, Smotrich and Ben Gavir are saying, If you ever stop killing Palestinians, we're gonna leave the government, which would force Netanyahu into an election he doesn't want. So the far right is forcing him to decide between actually signing this deal, getting the Israeli hostages back, which is so important, and stopping this pointless war that the military is now saying, enough, enough, we, there's nothing left to kill, nothing left to destroy in Gaza. He's stuck between them and the far right going well then we'll end your career you're going to lose this election we will not

accept anything other than the endless slaughter of Palestinians and Gaza so that's the last thing we're going to have to see if then Yahoo can somehow get past those guys to sign this deal and we can ask this question at this point what exactly did Israel accomplish in all of this what exactly did they accomplish and when you say you stand with Israel which many of us stand we love Israeli people we love all people we love all innocent people we We believe in the protection of life. What did this accomplish for them? What did accomplish for them?

So many hostages died needlessly. So many Palestinians died needlessly. They didn't get Hamas. All they did was destroy Gaza and earn the hatred of so much of the world. And that does not help Israel. It only hurts Israel. So the only way you're ever going to get to peace Israel is to end the occupation. That is so obvious to everyone in the world, except the Israelis, because they're blinded

by their bias. Brothers and sisters, we're trying to help you. As long as you keep five and a half million people occupied, they're always going to fight you. If you can't see that, you've totally lost sight of reality. We need you to get back to objective reality, so we can have peace in the region for the Palestinians and for you. All right, we got to go. So a lot more about Biden. Is Kamala Harris going to take over or do they have a new possibility, new candidates? We're going to talk about that in the second hour. So Remez, thank you for joining us.

Everybody check out the Utopias podcast. Everybody check out Damage Report. John, thank you so much. Have a great weekend. Everybody else, come right back. Is Kamala Harris going to be the next Democratic candidate? We'll be back. I don't know.