The Young Turks - Bill Of Fights - July 1, 2025

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

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You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Hate, hate, hate, the big, beautiful bill. No beautiful, no beautiful. Begha! Welcome to the Young Turks, Jake your granite with you guys. We welcome America into our homes and studios.

Not my home. We don't. Stay away. I do make videos from home. Anyway, so a lot of stories, we got a big war between Elon Musk and Donald Trump. This is round two, and this one, this one's gonna leave a mark. So we're gonna give you all the updates on it in a little bit. You didn't think that the Epstein files accusation left a mark maybe a little bit?

No, but I thought that it was potentially recoverable. And I now believe the relationship is permanently severed. No longer recoverable, everybody cry. Capers have been filed, irreconcilable differences. That is what it looks like. So, but we're asking on t-y-t.com, we'll ask during the segment two, who do you think is going to win the long war between Trump and Elon? Because it's easy to say Trump's kicking his ass right now, but Elon's the richest man in the world and Trump won't have any power three and a half years or not. Probably, hopefully, we'll see.

So we'll talk about that more a little bit. The Senate has passed the bill just like we told you. Of course, of course, in exactly the way that we told you. There was hemming and hawing. Strongly worded letters were filed back and forth, okay? But at the end of the day, exactly what we knew was going to happen, happened. And a lot more, and unfortunately, the carnage in Gaza continues. So let's get started.

Let's get started with that. Let's do it. Go. On this vote, the yeas are 50, the nays are 50. The Senate being evenly divided, the vice president votes in the affirmative. The bill as amended is passed. Well, the Senate managed to pass a bill that will add trillions of dollars to our national debt. Now that bill, which is of course dubbed the big beautiful bill, will head over to the House where it will no doubt face some obstacles.

But make no mistake about it, it's very likely that this bill will pass in Congress and eventually get signed by Trump. The question is, what will the final bill look like? For now, let's actually break down what remained in the Senate version of the bill, what was added to the bill, and what got cut from the legislation. First, we should know that the bill did pass 51 to 50 with Vice President J.D. Vance casting the tie-breaking vote. Three Republican senators voted against the legislation, including Susan Collins, Tom Tillis, and Rand Paul. Now, every single Democratic senator voted against the bill, and Vice President J.D. Vance summed up his thoughts on the legislation as follows. The thing that will bankrupt this country more than any other policy is tax cuts for the rich. I'm kidding. He didn't say that. Of course, he didn't say that.

Is flooding the country with illegal immigration and then giving those migrants generous benefits. Right, right. That's what's bankrupting the country, sure. Everything else, the Congressional Budget Office score, the proper baseline, the minutia, the minutia jank of the Medicaid policy is immaterial compared to the ICE money and immigration enforcement provisions. In fact, the Trump administration is about to spend $450 million a year on one immigration detention facility or immigrant detention facility. We're going to get to that later in the show. But here's how Rand Paul explained his decision to oppose this bill in the Senate. In deciding whether to vote for the big, not so beautiful bill, I've asked a very specific question, will the deficit be more or less next year?

The answer, without question, is this bill will grow the deficit. And according to the Congressional Budget Office, you know, the minutia that J.D. Vance was referring to, the bill would add $3.3 trillion to the debt over the next decade and cut almost a trillion dollars from Medicaid. Thank God, let's cut money, cut funding for programs that help the needy. So we can give bigger tax cuts and tax breaks to businesses and to the wealthy. And it would also cause almost 12 million more Americans to be uninsured by 2034 as a result of those Medicaid cuts. Now some Republican senators had concerns about the Medicaid cuts.

So there was a provision added to win over some of the holdovers. The bill now provides a $25 billion fund for rural hospitals in order to help absorb the impact of the Medicaid cuts. But make no mistake about it, $1.1 trillion cut for Medicaid obviously is going to impact a lot of Americans. The bill also provides $200 billion for immigration enforcement and border security, and an additional $150 billion for military spending. Yeah, all right. So let's talk about all the people who are full of crap. So let's start with Ron Johnson and Josh Hawley. Two people who pretended to have issues with the bill. They're like, oh, I really want to protect Medicaid. Hey, Josh Holly, you just voted for over a trillion dollars in cuts from Medicaid. You just voted to kick off 12 million people for Medicaid. So a very tall glass of shut up juice for you when you pretend to be a populist and pretend to care about the average guy. Your votes are the only thing that matters. You could

run your mouth all day long, but at the end of the day, you did this. And by the way, I don't believe you that you even care. Yeah, I'm there with you at this point. I think all you're doing is marketing like, oh, golly, gee, I didn't want to cut Medicaid. Oh, look at this, somebody forcing my hand to sign yes. No, no, you voluntarily did that because you don't care. At the end of the day, all you want is a goddamn tax cut. That's exactly right.

And Ron Johnson, oh my God, it's going to add so much to the debt. Well, now it's going to add even more of the debt than when you first started complaining about it. So what made you change your mind? Nothing, nothing. You were always going to vote for tax cuts through the rich. You guys are all a bunch of frauds.

So Rand Paul Tom Tillis and Susan Collins at least voted no. So I get a tiny bit of partial credit for that. But here's why I'm saying partial because literally every time I've now done this just like a dozen times when Republicans come in and they have a fake fight and then it gets down to just

one or two votes every single time. So why did they do that? Because they wanna, they only need 50. They don't need anything more than that. So what they do is they release the votes. So they say to Susan Collins, we know you can't win in Maine unless you pretend to be a moderate. So we'll let you vote against this bill so you could pretend. Rand Paul, we know you're pretending to be a libertarian, even though you say that you would do the tax cuts, which would create the giant,

Deficit in the first place, so I don't even really know what the hell you're complaining about. Well, you wanted to cut $2 trillion for Medicaid? What are you complaining about? You say you do the tax cuts, that's what's creating the giant deficit and debt problem. So Rand Paul, you get to pretend your principal. The only guy I'll give three quarters credit to is Tom Tillis, because he's taking the vote, voting no, and then getting the hell out of Dodge. He's just quitting because he's like, all right, he voted no against Trump and I'm leaving.

Okay, so I want to just quickly blame Democrats as well. Okay, and you might be wondering, what do you mean? They don't have the majority, they all voted no on this bill. You're right about that. But notice how Republicans managed to pass this bill in the Senate through reconciliation, meaning all they needed was a simple majority vote to get this passed. Interesting how the parliamentarian isn't really much of a problem. Like there was a little bit of, there were whispers last week about how the parliamentarian

is going to strike down this provision and that provision. What happened? What happened? They're cutting even more from Medicaid. Yeah, Anna, can you explain that to me a little bit? Yeah, so let's look, guys, this is why we tell you, it's not about saying, when we criticize Democrats, please stop thinking about it in binary terms. That doesn't mean we like the Republicans. So what it means is this is a game they're playing on. I hate all of them. Okay. To be abundantly clear, I think politicians in both parties don't

give a damn about you. Democrats campaign on passing these incredibly important provisions that are supposedly going to make your life so much better, your taxpayer money is finally going to go toward programs that benefit you and your fellow Americans, we promise. Then they pretend as soon as the legislation gets to the Senate. Well, what could we do? What could we do? The Senate parliamentarians struck down the provision. Yeah, yeah. back to school when you can thrive by creating a space that does it all for you, no matter the size.

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Look, that's the point I was going to. When the Democrats are in charge, you all remember, they kept saying that the parliamentarian was the most important person in the country. And they just couldn't do 80%, 85% of their agenda because of that dastardly parliamentarian. So last week, there was rumblings of a parliament, and then it's gone. Gone. And the Democrats talk so much more about the parliamentarian when they're in charge, rather than when they're in the opposition.

Shouldn't they talk a lot more about the parliamentarian when they're in the opposition? Shouldn't they be like, no, the parliamentarian says no, the parliamentarian, yet I don't hear a single thing about the parliamentarian. So it's a game, it's a shell game. The same thing with MSNBC and Fox News. They just go back and forth, back and forth. But when it comes to an economic issue, all their anchors come out and say the same exact thing. Right. It's good cop, bad cop.

So now, look, the next step is they're going to go to the house. And in the house, you think you're going to have any real debates? No, it's all theater. Please, look, turn off your mainstream media. They're going to pretend to have debates, and the media is going to pretend that it's real. It's so annoying. Here, I will tell you ahead of time, an absolute guarantee that this bill passes. There's no drama.

All of it is totally utterly fake. There's a 0% chance it doesn't pass. And you want to know why? Because this has giant tax cuts for the rich and huge subsidies for corporations. So let me let me get to some more of those details and then save some of that heat for Senator Lisa Murkowski, Jank. Because Lisa Murkowski was talking a big game about how she's going to vote no on the bill. She ultimately voted yes. Of course she did.

After she got some nice pork for her state. So we're going to get to her in just a second. But first let me just address the tax cuts as a part of this bill. So the bill contains temporary, temporary tax breaks when it comes to tips and overtime. So it's interesting because what this bill does is it makes Trump's 2017 tax cuts permanent. The tax cuts that will not be permanent, of course, are tax cuts that benefit workers. So the deductions are capped at $25,000 for tips. So anyone making tips up to $25,000 will not be taxed.

and $12,500 for overtime and decrease for individuals making more than $150,000 a year. So they're kind of means testing this tax break for workers. And on top of that, these tax breaks will expire by the end of 28. The other tax breaks, again, that disproportionately benefit the rich, the tax breaks for corporations that passed in 2017, those are all permanent. When it comes to workers, not permanent and also means tested, which is an interesting way that they're prioritizing who benefits the most from this bill. So let me just jump in for one quick second. So I often criticize mainstream media. In that case, is anyone in right wing media telling their voters that the tips in overtime is a trick and that it's only temporary, but the tax cuts for the rich are permanent? My guess is that zero right wing media shows are saying that. Zero. The bill also gives seniors a deduction for social security benefits.

You know, social security benefits are tax, so there is a bit of a break here, although those tax breaks also expire in 2028. And the bill, again, permanently extends the 2017 tax cuts from Trump's original legislation. So when you put all of those tax policies together, according to analysis by the Urban Brookings Tax Policy Center, a person making $217,000 or more, annually would receive about a $12,500 tax cut on average under the Senate version of this bill. But a person making $35,000 or less would see only about $150 average tax cut. So again, like it's clear who this benefits the most and it's not ordinary working class Americans.

The last I saw Anna, the top 1% are getting over a $62,000 tax. break every single year. I mean, as they should, how else would they trickle on us, Jenk? Yeah, I mean, they got to save up for the trickling. So, 62,000 a year extra for the richest people in the country because they're worried about the debt? Do you see what a joke Republican politicians are? They're 100% lying and all the media goes along as if it isn't a lie.

So let's get to Lisa Murkowski because this is amazing. So Lisa Murkowski is one of the so called moderate Republican senators who was not planning to vote in favor of this bill according to everything she was saying publicly. Well, she caved. She ended up voting yes. And apparently there were there was quite a bit of pork included in the bill specifically for her state of Alaska. And look, on one hand, she's elected to represent the people of Alaska. So she should fight to see what she can get on behalf of her constituents. Obviously this bill is disastrous and an hour ago literally at the hour before we came on air she tweeted about how she thinks this is an awful process it's an awful bill but nonetheless the reason why she voted yes is because she got all

sorts of cookies including a provision that let certain Alaskan whaling captains deduct more of their expenses to save on taxes. Thank God that America got that pork for her donor class for whaling yeah now there's a provision that would also increase federal Medicaid funding for the state with the highest separate poverty guideline, which just so happens to be Alaska. Several carve outs in the work requirements for food stamps because there are in fact cuts to food stamps and Medicaid in this bill. And an exemption for the new SNAP cost sharing requirement, which would force states to

shoulder some of the cost for SNAP if their reported error rate is too high. So she got some goodies in there that she really wanted, and that's why she ended up voting yes on this legislation. So look, they're radical corporatists, they give away all of our money to corporations. You know, we complain so much about our money getting given away to Israel for the war crimes, et cetera. But a lot more of our money, constantly taking out of our checks to give corporate subsidies to whoever is donating to these politicians, whether they're whalers or oilers or Canucks or whatever they might be, okay? So they all you gotta do is bribe a politician. So I'm so tired of Murkowski being called a moderate. And mainstream media does that to make radical corporatists look like centrist.

Oh, everybody agrees with Markowski that we should cut 12 million people off of Medicaid. And if their kids get cancer, they should die. And 70,000 people at least a year are going to die according to estimates because they don't have health insurance because of this bill. 70,000 dead Americans, but, hey, the super rich needed another $62,000 a year. And you tell me, Murkowski's a moderate? No, she's not. She's a radical corrupt corporatist.

Like they all are. They all are. Come on, man. So we currently, currently without this bill, have $37 trillion in debt. Last year we spent a trillion dollars servicing our debt. We are now spending more on servicing our debt. than we do on defense spending, and that's concerning. So Jake, explain to me when things really blow up.

Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, I'm worried it's going to be soon. So look guys, we've said this where you know us were principal, no matter which administration or which party's in. And so there's both people on the left and on the right who say that deficits don't matter, right? There's, you know, Stephanie Kelton on the left, respected wonderful person, intellectual, et cetera, on part of Bernie's team, but I don't agree. I think that that does, I know the debt matters. I know it matters.

It's called modern monetary theory, and I agree with Jank that it doesn't make much sense. Okay, so we can have a fun debate over that, right? But Dick Cheney agrees, he says the debt doesn't matter. He famously said that the George W. Bush. And so the Republicans drive me crazy, and the media drives me crazy because they go along with the theater. They pretend the debt matters, And then they pile on top of it and pile on top of it. Trump added a record 8.4 trillion to the debt when he was in his first term in only four years and how, why? Because he did a massive tax cut for the rich and for corporations.

And it goes on and on and on. So at the end of the day, when you have enough debt, it starts to devalue your currency. So it's going to devalue the dollar. But the fact that the dollar is the main currency used worldwide has enormous. enormous positive effects for us. So if they switch away from the dollar, it'll have enormous negative effects. And the more we pile up debt, the lower our credit rating goes. And when our credit rating drops, our interest rates go up.

Exactly. Which means that we then have, we'll have even more debt to pay back to earlier debt. And then you get into a death spiral, into a literal debt spiral. So I don't think that the extremes on either side are right. I think the debt definitely matters. And unfortunately, our corrupt politicians, are never ever ever ever going to do anything about it because they both love giving away everything to the donors and they take it from you and this is before

the debt explodes on your head because once it explodes and the economy starts heading down they're gonna say there was nothing we could do no no no the oil company executives they already have the money you can't take that away from them that's socialism right and they say you won't be able to touch anyone who already robbed you and they're gonna take that money and I'm gonna move it on They're gonna do all these things, and then they're gonna say, hey, America, now you owe, it used to be 37, 47, $47 trillion, average American, now you have to pay for that. And I should note, Moody's did lower the U.S. credit rating fairly recently, and it's because

of the fact that we just keep piling on more and more debt. It's become unmanageable, and this bill is not gonna help, that's for sure. All right, we got to take a break. When we come back, we'll talk about something good that happened in the Senate version of the bill, if you could believe it. But it has further fan the flames of this feud that Elon Musk is having with Donald Trump. We'll tell you what that provision is. We'll check in on that feud and more when we come back. Don't miss it.

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Let's get into it. We might have to put Doge on, Elon. You know, you know, Dogey? Those is the monster that might have to go back and eat Elon, wouldn't that be terrible? He gets a lot of subsidies, Peter. But Elon's very upset that the EV mandate is going to be terminated. And you know what? When you look at it, who wants, not everybody wants an electric car.

Before we get into the substance of this story, I just have to comment on the fact that Donald Trump's hats remind me of cell phones for elderly people. Right? The text just keeps getting bigger and bigger as they get older and older. Now with that out of the way, Donald Trump is threatening to sick doge on the man who cooked up the faux government agency in the first place, Elon Musk, especially as the rift between the Tesla CEO and the president heats up with Trump even threatening to deport Elon, deport him, wow. So as we explained on the show last week and this week, Musk is extremely salty over the fact that the big beautiful bill, according to him, allegedly according to him, is adding a lot to the federal debt.

It does add a lot to the federal debt to the tune of $3.3 trillion. But I don't know if that's really what Elon Musk is upset about. It also removes subsidies for renewable energy. I know he's salty about that. And it even adds a new tax on green energy companies, which means that that tax, that new tax is going to impact Tesla. Now we're also learning that the Senate version of the big beautiful bill removes a provision that Silicon Valley really wanted, a 10 year moratorium on state laws that would regulate

artificial intelligence. They got rid of that. So that means that states, if the bill passes in its current form, would be free to regulate AI. Now as you can imagine, Musk is not a fan of these provisions and has been complete. about it on social media, he doesn't complain about the lack of subsidies for renewables. He pretends like he's really concerned about how this bill adds to the national debt. But in response, Trump posted on Truth Social that Elon may get more subsidy than any human being in history by far.

And without subsidies, Elon would probably have to close up shop and head back home to South Africa. No more rocket launches, satellites, or electric car production, and our country would save a fortune, perhaps we should have Doge take a good hard look at this, big money to be saved. Now, Trump is definitely correct that Elon Musk and his businesses have received quite a lot of money in subsidies. So Musk and his businesses have received at least $38 billion in government contracts, loans, subsidies, and tax credits, often at critical moments for his business. businesses. And Musk has responded on truth social simply by saying, I am literally saying

cut it all now. Jake, do you believe him? No, of course not. So they're both making good points about how wrong the other guy is. But it's interesting that they're doing it now. When they were getting along, Trump wasn't talking about Elon Musk's $38 billion in contracts, loans, subsidies, et cetera, there was, oh, Elon's a hero and he's cutting, cutting. Meanwhile, Trump knows, because now you know it for a fact, because he said it, all along, he knew that Elon was actually getting $38 billion and not cutting a dime of it. Right. And he was good with it because Elon had given him money, right?

Now give Trump credit for cutting the electric vehicle subsidies in an ironic kind of way. I'm not sure that they should be cut, but at least he cut a subsidy that was going to a donor. So that's the one piece of credit there for Trump's side, Ferris show in America. But now back to Elon, Elon says, I'm saying cut it all, cut the oil and gas. Totally right about that. And Trump is hiding $17 billion in oil and gas subsidies that we give out every single year. But Elon, you knew that when you were running Doge.

How come you never talked about the $17 million in oil and gas subsidies earlier? How come you didn't cut it earlier under Doge? Because the reality, guys, is this is all a shell game being played on you. The people who have power and money, they're all divvying up with the spoils. They're going to charge you, they're going to take the money, and then they're going to split up among themselves with subsidies and tax credits and giveaways, and almost none of it will go to you. It'll go to people like Elon and others. And then the big fight is over, is Elon going to get more than ExxonMobil or is ExxonMobil

going to get more than Elon? Yeah, we're talking about the most profitable corporations and the richest people in this country fighting over how much more they can rape and pillage the U.S. taxpayer. And in the meantime, our lawmakers are nickel and diming the American people and specifically targeting funding that helps provide health insurance to the poorest among us. That is the current state of our Congress right now. That's how pathetic Congress is. That's how corrupt our political system Now, back to this feud, Trump is now threatening to denaturalize Elon Musk and deport him. Take a look at that.

Come on. I don't know, I think we'll have to take a look. We might have to put Doge on Elon, you know, you know, Doge is the monster that might have to go back and eat Elon. Wouldn't that be terrible? Okay, so to be fair to Trump, a reporter asked. Do you plan on deporting Elon Musk? And he's like, I don't know, we got to look into it.

So he's open to it, although look, there are a lot of threats about denaturalizing all sorts of people that the administration doesn't like. And do we really want to live in a world like that? Do we want to live in a country like that? Yeah, I mean, look, Trump is totally unhinged. This is not normal guys. It's not normal to say, hey, I'm going to deport a US citizen who also happens to be the richest guy. in the country and in the world like for disagreeing with me for disagreeing who cares that he does he doesn't like my budget bill so I'm going to just violate the law egregiously and and make

every naturalized citizen nervous that if you don't agree with Donald Trump or kiss his ass he's going to try to take away your U.S. citizenship and deport you what a lunatic thing to say also of course talking about and other right wingers but Trump was pushing it potentially arresting Zoran Mamdani for what for why it doesn't matter for disagree with Trump Okay, also arresting the people at CNN for running a story about a different app. We'll do that later in the show. And also talking about arresting the former Homeland Security Chief, Mayorkas under Biden. All of that was just in the last two days.

Guys, unhinged, totally on hinge. Totally unhinged. Yeah, and if you're a right winger and you think that's normal, that's not within a billion miles of normal. It's not just about the fact that it's abnormal, which it is. It's embarrassing, okay? You can't pretend as though the president that you support is this big alpha dog, this big alpha male, when he's constantly threatening to imprison or deport anyone who disagrees with him even a little bit.

Yeah, why don't you grow up a little bit, Trump? Why don't you man up a little bit? Every time somebody tweaks him, he's like, ah, I'm going to arrest him, and deport him. All right, you sound like a bitch. No, he does sound like a bitch. Everything, every slightest little criticism, oh yeah, let's rip up the Constitution and arrest my critics, said the guy who ran on freedom of speech. I know, come on. Come on, if that's not embarrassing, what is? And he's getting these senior moments too where he's like, you know what doges? Yeah, brother, we all know what doges, okay? And we can see the letters on your hat. I got it, they're giant, I got it. Okay, so in response to Trump threatening to deport him and mentioning all the subsidies

that Elon Musk's companies receive, Musk simply replied with this, so tempting to escalate this so, so tempting. Then do it, brother. But I will refrain for now. For now. Yeah, they're gonna, they're gonna escalate like crazy. Listen, we will allow it. Yeah, yeah. So look guys, first of all, we got a website called where's our cut.com. If we're gonna keep giving money to Elon Musk, we should get equity. Why are we investing into his companies and not getting equity as the taxpayers? Which by the way, we could do for almost all these corporate corporations who are all robbing us. They're literally taking money out of our pocket and giving it to these executives.

It's sickening, okay? So now the other thing is we're doing a poll, and I don't think, I think this is one the hardest questions we've asked. I don't know which way I'm going to go on this. Who's going to win the long war, Donald Trump or Elon Musk? It's on the live chat, it's also on t.y.com. So, so right now, Trump's got the lead, and both in the poll and in real life. You know, there was this for a moment, for a minute, there was like, hey, are, is Maga gonna go with Trump or Musk?

And then Maga went with Trump, which is not surprising. And I'm curious where all the Elon stands are. Remember all the guys who loved Elon? They used to be a Democrat. Well, they are Democrats and they no longer support him because of all the shenanigans. No, no, no, I mean like the guys who love Doge, the guy wants to be flipped to being a Republican. The MAGA guys that loved Elon, they seem to have melted away into the woods or untieged. to X. But anyways, but Trump is only president for another three years or so, you hope,

two, two, too, too. And Elon is still gonna be the richest guy or one of the richest guys, and he says he's gonna keep spending more and more money into politics. Yeah, in fact, he was a lot more threatening toward Trump yesterday and also anyone who votes in favor of the so-called big beautiful bill. He had posted on X, it is obvious with the insane spending of this bill, which increases the debt ceiling by a record $5 trillion, that we live in a one party country, the Porky Pig Party, time for a new political party that actually cares about the people. Elon, listen, I'm gonna answer the poll, okay?

I don't know whether it's gonna be Trump or Elon Musk who wins the so-called long war. What I do know is that the American people lose no matter what, okay, Elon Musk doesn't care about the people, he doesn't. Okay, this notion that he's concerned about the debt is hilarious to me, because he wasn't whining about the debt at all when it came to subsidies that he was enjoying. Yeah, I mean, look, he's- $38 billion in subsidies and grant, and all sorts of government contracts and grants. Yeah, and guys, he didn't bring up the oil and gas subsidies back when he was in charge of Doge.

He didn't bring up the electric vehicle subsidies. The one thing Trump is right about is that that Musk is not really mad about the deficit. He didn't mention the deficit when, you know, he thought he was going to get the electric vehicle subsidies, but now that the subsidies for him are taken out, all of a sudden he discovered that there was a huge deficit. Okay, so then you want us to take out the tax cuts for the rich? No, I didn't think so, right? So the only thing I disagree with you on, Anna, is you said no, like the country's not

going to win out of this, right? No, if Elon was in charge, they wouldn't win. If Trump's in charge, they're not winning. But if Elon and Trump fight and later they split the vote, then the country could get something very positive about it. No, we always lose. I'm a year, you're endlessly optimistic, I'm done, I'm done, I don't, I, I allowed myself to have maybe a little tiny, tiny sliver of hope thinking that there's a portion of the

Trump base that's actually serious about changing this system to benefit the American people. full of crap. No one cares about anything but themselves. No, no, let's keep it real, Jank. But I am going to keep it real with a segment that we did yesterday. So remember, again, now I'm telling you, Trump voters are not all the same. They're not all MAGA. We're trying to peel off to independence and remember the, hold on, hold on. You remember the polling yesterday? It's at minus, this bill's at minus 26. I don't care about the polling. So okay, no, no, you got to care about the polling. Everyone talks a big talk. Everyone talks a big game when it comes to the polls or oh, oh no, I'm gonna put my foot down and

And this is what I believe. But when push comes to shove, everyone caves and does exactly what we predict they're going to do. But in terms of the American people, forget the politicians, of course that's true about the politicians. They're all crooks, we've said that a hundred times, in fact, thousands of times throughout all these years. No, I'm talking about the voters. Those independent voters do flip flop. They did vote for Obama. They did vote for Trump.

Yes. They are flipping and flopping. They are flipping and flop. And they do care. So like when, and they are paying it in some degree of attention. Because the Democratic Party lost young African Americans slightly, but it made a difference. Lost Latinos big time, lost a big chunk of younger voters. Why?

Because they were paying attention and they thought the Democrats didn't deliver, right? So now, and they made the mistake of thinking, well, maybe Trump will deliver. He's not an average, he's not a normal politician, right? But it turns out he's abnormal, as we knew, abnormal in the wrong ways, right? Oh, I'm going to arrest anyone who criticized me, blah, right? But in terms of tax cuts for the rich and giant deficits, he's the most normal politician you've ever seen. So those independent voters are not going to get pissed again, and they're going to want to vote for someone else. And at that point, that's why I started Rebellion Pack, because at that point, you have to give them a real choice, a real option.

Not a fake corporate Democrat who's just going to disappoint them again, but a populist economic message that Bernie has, that's going to work. RebellionPack.com. So otherwise, yeah, we're just going to bounce back and forth between good cop, bad cop, good cop, bad cop, everybody's disappointed after every election, they all rob us, they all lie to us. You've got to break that cycle, go populace left. I think we should all stop paying our taxes. Not this, don't do that. Yeah, you'll get an alarm.

Why can't we have an actual Tea Party? The Tea Party was against corporations. No taxation without representation, I'm serious though. I'm sick of my taxes going to garbage. No, I got you and and it's so frustrating. I mean, guys, we've been over this a million times that every day you go on to work, you work your ass off, they give you a check at them the week or whatever. And you look at it and the money they took away from you, you could look at that number.

That's going to Israel because of AIPAC is 17 billion in oil subsidies, even more than Israel, okay? Because ExxonMobil, et cetera, gave contracts, gave donations. It's going to Lockheed, Martin, Rathia, all these corporations, they're literally taking money out of your pocket because all of our politicians are crooks. Yep. But you got to have the courage to call out your own side. Trump won partly because he called out the Republicans. He didn't mean it, right? He's a fake populist. And look, he did the same exact thing that every Republican president does, which is rob the poor in the middle class to pay the rich, right? But at least he was savvy enough to be a fake populace. Imagine if we gave him a real populace. And you're never going to win. without a real populist. Never. These corporate goons are going to good cop, bad cop you for the

rest of your life. All right, let's take a break. When we come back, we'll talk about the new alliance between Thomas Massey and Elon Musk. What does this mean for the chances of Massey getting reelected? And what are the polls saying? The polls are actually really shocking and depressing. So come right back. I'll share them with you. All right back on CY Jankana with you guys. More news. Well, as we all know, Donald Trump is threatening to primary Thomas Massey, a libertarian congressman. And the big question is, will this plot work?

Let's get into the details. Congressman Thomas Massey, a libertarian, and Elon Musk are now joining forces in their feud against President Donald Trump and his massive tax cut and spending bill, otherwise known as a so-called big, beautiful bill. Now yesterday, Elon Musk pledged to support Massey, who also has a big problem with the spending that's associated with the big beautiful bill. Both men say they're worried about how much the bill adds to the national debt. And Musk suggested that he would donate to Massey's re-election campaign in order to help him beat a Trump-endorsed primary challenger.

Now here's how Massey responded. He says, you're too kind, but thank you. A large part of my job is to keep government from screwing things up for the engineers and entrepreneurs who do make this world a better place. I don't think enough people appreciate the contributions you and your team have made to civilization. I like Thomas Massey, even though I disagree with him on probably most policies. And the reason why I like him is because he is principled. He actually seems to be the only lawmaker who is concerned about the national debt. And you don't see principled politicians in Congress.

So that's why I like him. I don't know how I feel about this alliance because I don't see Elon Musk as a genuine person. And I don't want him to like muck up Massey, if you know what I mean. I do. So look, I don't particularly care where Massey gets his money, meaning like, I'm not like, yay, Musk is going to give him money, or he doesn't have money, whatever. Do I want him to win over a Trump-backed ass-kissing a Republican? Of course, on honesty alone. Exactly.

Like even if I, even if the Trump ass kisser that's going to run against them, we should have a good acronym for that tack, Trump ass kisser, right? So even if the tack agrees with us on policies more than Massey does, I still rather have Massey is at least honest. Yeah. And not corrupt, right? And you know that he's going to vote on principle and he's going to speak out and he's not going to be a little bitch. Yes. Right. Yeah, he's great. And that's a huge, huge part of it. That's the thing that you know what? You just helped crystallize what it is about Massey that kind of puts him in top tier mode for me, right? It's the fact that he is willing to say out loud what he knows is going to draw the ire of members of his own party, and more importantly, Donald Trump. That fearlessness

really speaks to me, and I always appreciate that. Now, Massey also posted a lengthy statement on X saying that Elon's purchase of Twitter and cultivation of the X platform for free speech has already helped me help my cause immensely. It's allowed me to bypass conventional media to refute the lies of both political parties and to provide transparency about how Congress works and what's actually inside of the bills we vote on, exposing the worst parts of the big beautiful bill and reasserting congressional war powers has recently earned me the ire of the swamp and a fight for my reelection, but my reelection isn't really about either of

those issues specifically. It's a referendum on whether members of Congress can think and act independently based on what's best for the country, or whether all members of Congress must be reduced to rubber stamps for their respective political parties and swampy special interests. So look, Trump hasn't weighed in on the new alliance between Thomas Massey and Elon Musk yet. I'm sure he will eventually, but as we speak, he hasn't yet. But the president has continued attacking Massey today, writing that new poll, anybody I endorse beats Thomas Massey of Kentucky by 25 points.

Get ready, Massey is a very bad guy. Massey is not a very bad guy. You are a very bad guy, and you can't handle anyone disagreeing with you on anything. I mean, the threats toward anyone who slightly disagrees with Trump, insane. So by the way, our research did not turn up that exact 25 points. number that was referenced by Trump. But there was a poll conducted by Kaplan Strategies, which surveyed approximately, big sample size here, 370 likely Republican primary voters in Massey's district. And here's what they found in this one poll. So currently Massey

faces a declared challenger, registered nurse Nicole Lee Ethington, who leads him in a head-to-head matchup 31% to 19%, with a majority of voters still undecided. Massey's favorability is also alarmingly low among the Republican base. So 23% view him favorably, 62% view him unfavorably. Donald Trump enjoys 89% favorability among the same group. I don't believe that poll at all. Now, 72% say they are less likely to vote for Thomas Massey because of his opposition to Trump's tax cuts and budget, 58% are less likely to support him after

learning he voted against Trump's Israel policy. No, this poll is total garbage. So the poll, okay, let me just give you some more. And then we have one other poll that we can kind of, you know, judge this one up against, okay? This, but this Kaplan poll also revealed that Massey's district thinks the following about foreign policy. So only 6% support staying out of the Iran-Israel conflict,

52% favor, by the way, again, this is a poll of like 360 people in Kentucky. in his specific district in Kentucky. 52% favor targeted action against Iran's nuclear program. 31% support active U.S. involvement to pursue regime change in Iran. No, this is total junk pole. Yeah, okay. Yeah. So here's how Massey responded to the poll.

You're going to love this. Perhaps some of you have seen a fake poll of my race floating around on the internet. The pollster looks like a homeless person broadcasting from a stairwell in a crack house. He includes a photo of said pollster. They just interviewed him on Newsmax. I wonder what the host was thinking during the interview. Look, I will admit that is not an appealing shot or angle for the pollster. The lighting is also terrible.

Nonetheless, Harry Enten reported on some relevant data when it comes to Trump's primary endorsements. So the Enten data is real. So let me just get dismissed the total junk poll. This is done by one of the apparatchiks on Trump's side, and it's so hilariously driven by special interests. That's why the reason why I say it's junk is it doesn't match any of the other polling I've seen. And it's off by a lot, okay? And Massey has survived other challenges easily.

So this is a different ball game. And overall Magna supports Trump over Massey, but his district has been super loyal to him. So I'm very, I don't know which way it's going to go. way it's going to go, I bet on Massey to win that election, but I'm not like saying, oh, I'm sure Massey's going to win. But this poll that has him only at 19% approval, no, it's not even close, right? But the one that's hilarious and is a dead giveaway is, only 6% of the people in that very conservative district in Kentucky supports staying out of the Iran-Israel conflict. 94% want to get right in the middle of it and put boots on the ground in

In Iran? Who knows? Maybe. Come on. Maybe that one district in Kentucky is like full of neocons. Yeah, yeah, all the neocons moved to Thomas Massey's district? Yeah. No, it's, this is a joke.

But the next poll is real and disconcerting. So let's go to Harry Enten, who specifically addresses Trump endorsed primary challengers. We actually have the data to show that the Republican base is with Donald Trump. Times Trump endorses won the GOP primary for governor and congressional races. Look at this. 2024, 96%, 22, 95%. 2020, 98%. The bottom line is this, 95% plus of the time the Trump endorsed candidate wins in GOP

primaries. And even in the cases where Donald Trump endorses a challenger to an incumbent, the majority of time, that challenger wins. So Donald Trump is a winner in Republican primaries. You go against Donald Trump to quote the movie Goodberger. You go in the grinder. I would like to look into the methodology of that data, how they gather that data. Because 2022, there were a ton of people that Trump endorsed that didn't make it.

Yeah, no, no, it's misleading. So it's true overall. The number is not, I don't think the number is wrong. Kerry Lake, Herschel Walker, Dr. Oz. No, no, no. But why it's misleading is Trump endorses like the overwhelming majority of incumbents and they all win. So it pumps up his numbers, right? And in fact, sometimes right wingers will get mad at Trump.

They're like, why are you endorsing this total uniparty establishment neocon Republican? Because Trump wants that number to be big, so he just does blanket endorsements. On the, if you notice, Harry Anton said there at the end, you might have missed it. He said, when Trump backs a challenger to an incumbent, he still wins a majority of the time. Okay, got it. Not 95% of the time, barely a majority. And a lot of times he's lost spectacularly with Herschel Walker-Carry Lake and the lunatic in Pennsylvania and the list goes on and on.

So that's why it's a misleading number. But overall, I see why, of course, people are concerned. So, and they gotta make that calculation. And Massey's got to set on him to say, you know what? No, I'm not gonna bent to a Democrat and I'm not gonna bent to a Republican president. And I like that. Yeah, of course. Again, someone who's actually guided by his principles, his values, even if I disagree.

And that's the kind of country I want to live in where you have good faith actors who actually have values, you know, and aren't easily corrupted. We, you know, we need a lot more of that in a Democratic Party. Yes. To say, no, no, why aren't you introducing the public option? Why aren't we voting on paid family leave? Why did you take $15 minimum wage out? Instead, all we had in the Democrats is, oh Joe Biden, trust Biden, trust Biden.

Well, that was a disaster. It ran us straight into an iceberg. I wish a thousand times more Democrats had challenged Biden. By the way, this ask history happens on both sides. That's why like Dean Phillips and Thomas Massey are such, you know, like odd characters from Washington's perspective, right? Massey challenged the Republican president, as you're seeing here. Dean Phillips obviously challenged Joe Biden in the primaries in the last time around,

and they both got the same reaction from their sides. I've seen Maga say to master like, oh, he's kind of an odd ball, he votes no on everything. Well, you guys used to love that. But now that he votes no on Trump's bill, they're like, no, you have to kiss daddy's ass. And on the Democratic side, Dean Phillips, how dare you challenge Joe Biden, who's the youngest person to ever live? And who's the most dynamic, greatest Democratic president ever? Bad, Dean Phillips, you're bad, terrible, disloyal, right?

Yeah. No, those are the people that ruin the party because you need internal criticism to make the party better. Look at what we say on the left about America. Because we criticize America doesn't mean we hate America, it means we want America to be better, right? So the same thing goes for your party, whether you're Republican or Democrat. You don't criticize Democratic Party because you hate it. You hate it, you criticize them because you love it and you want to make it better, right? Love it is a bit strong, okay, but you want to make the party better.

And that's how if you if you just go, oh, okay, let's just do nothing like James Carville's saying. Well, that's a recipe for disaster. And that's why they're sitting in 26%. And eventually, look, the Republicans. Look, you're being, look, I think you're being super unfair to Democratic leadership. In fact, I've been unfair because I was under the assumption. that they weren't fighting back against the so-called big beautiful bill. But Ken Clippenstein, one of the best journalists in the country, really did correct the record here.

So Senator Chuck Schumer, Senate Minority Leader, did do something really important today. I hope it's a strongly worded letter. No, even more important than that. He rebranded the bill. He tweeted today, I just forced Republicans to delete their ridiculous bill name. It's no longer named the one big beautiful bill. Nothing about this bill is beautiful. It's a betrayal to American families and it's undeserving of such a stupid name.

Thank you, Senator Schumer, thank you. So that's how he stopped the bill. Oh no, the bill was through. He just renamed it. Okay, in his mind, he renamed it. It's actually what Democrats are really good at. They love renaming things and rebranding things without actually doing anything about the underlying issue. You know, don't call it homelessness, call it unhoused, but don't actually address the issue.

Yeah. We gotta take a break. When we come back, we've got a lot more to get into, including Israeli settlers now attacking IDF soldiers. Let them fight. We're gonna ask, you decide, we'll be right back.