The Young Turks - Boom Town USA

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

Trump Gets Bad Marks On the Economy, Per CBS News. Tim Dillon asks if the US is just taking orders from Israel. Joe Rogan calls the deportation of likely innocent people "horrific." An ACLU filing she...ds light on how "Andry," the gay make-up artist sent to rot in a prison in El Salvador, ended up labeled "Tren de Aragua" by ICE. Hosts: Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞ https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER ☞ https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH ☞ https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. You know, welcome to our trash revolution. I'm so upset. Oh my God. Bega! Welcome to the Young Turks, Jane Cougar Anna with you guys, on a lovely Young Turks, Jane Cougger, Anna Kasparian with you guys on a lovely Monday evening.
Starting point is 00:01:00 It's a little cloudy. It's a little cloudy here, but I'm sure it's of course very different where you are. Okay, so we've got a lot of big stories in the show today. So Trump has made a good number of mistakes. We'll be talking about them. Joe Rogan with some interesting points of view. I didn't know he had interesting points of view. That's where I add in the wink, okay?
Starting point is 00:01:23 And then private equity stealing from the elderly and a progressive member of Congress going in an excellent direction. Good direction. Yes, so a lot of good news and bad news today, of course, as well. So Casper, what do you got for us? Well, we need to start off with an update, an economic update, if you will, because there is still quite a lot of uncertainty in the economy. And Donald Trump is sending us a lot of mixed messages. So with that in mind, let's get to the details. Is that something that you're worried about, given the impact of your efforts to readjust the economies? I haven't heard the term in years. I don't know anything about it.
Starting point is 00:02:02 This country is going to be more successful than it ever was. It's going to boom. We're going to have boom down USA. We're going to boom. There's a whole song about it. Yeah. Yeah. So as long as he says it, Anna, then it happens.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Then it happens. Because once you go boom, boom, gone. Boom, down. Okay, all right, but maybe a little bit more complicated. But is it, is it, are we headed toward Boomtown USA? Because everything we're seeing right now in terms of the analysis, the metrics, not Boomtown USA. So here's what the reality is.
Starting point is 00:02:38 One day earlier, President Donald Trump made clear that he actually does not care. He doesn't give a hoot about economic ramifications that will result from his tariff policies. What are his tariff policies? We don't really know, okay? He threatens tariffs and then he pulls back, threatens them again, pulls back. But in regard to the auto tariffs, he seems to be very serious about it. Last week he announced that he would impose 25% tariffs on all foreign made automobiles and auto parts that are imported to the United States. You know, even when it comes to cars that are manufactured within the United States, oftentimes they use parts that are
Starting point is 00:03:18 manufactured elsewhere. And so he says, we start off with a 2.5 base, which is what we're at, and go to 25%. So collection of tariffs, according to President Trump will begin on April 3rd. He also said that they would be permanent. And he's claiming that the U.S. could end up collecting as much as $100 billion from tariff revenue. Now, some unions, including the United Auto Workers, are lauding President Trump for these tariffs, arguing that it'll actually bring manufacturing back to the United States and help auto workers. And sure, that could happen. We have yet to see a robust policy or plan in place by the Trump administration that would really help build up our manufacturing capabilities here in the U.S. But nonetheless, in the short term, regardless
Starting point is 00:04:09 of whether or not the Trump administration gets its act together with that strategy, we are going to experience an increase in prices for cars in the U.S. And that might be true of the long term, but certainly it'll be true of the short term. Yeah, so I have one solid prediction here, and then lots of interesting topics and speculation and want to hear from you guys, etc. The one prediction that to me is obvious is they're going to be permanent, no chance they're going to be permanent, no way. It's going to be another tariffist interruptus because he does this, the stock market crash, he panics, he withdraws it. So are we really going to have a 25% tariff on Canada and Mexico
Starting point is 00:04:51 and that, let alone Japan, South Korea, European Union, etc. When they strike back, prices will go through the roof. There'll be massive panic. His economic numbers will be in the tank. Forget the stock market is, Poland's already in disaster shape. We'll show you about that. When it comes to their economy, it'll be even worse at that point. You're telling me Trump is not going to flip-flop. I mean, it's interesting because there's some folks on the right and the left that think Trump never flip flops. I don't know which president you're looking at. No, he flip flops all the time. Yeah. Nonstop. So he'll definitely flip up on this. So one of the things we're asking you guys is, will he come to regret causing a tariff war?
Starting point is 00:05:27 That's in the live chat poll. It shows obviously live 6 to 8 p.m. Eastern every day. So I think he definitely will. It's already going very poorly for him. And there's going to be a lot more that came from. There's one thing holding up his numbers overall, and it ain't this, which we'll talk about in a little bit. Yeah, that's exactly right. So let's talk a little bit about what the experts are saying, for instance, Auto Week has made some predictions in regard to the ramifications of these tariffs should President Trump go through with them.
Starting point is 00:05:57 If a 25% tariff is imposed, prices could increase by as much as $12,000 for some models, or as little as $4,000 for others, in both cases, a cost that will almost certainly be passed on to U.S. buyers. And look, that is a massive price hike at a time when Americans are still struggling from inflation. As we've talked about on the show, the Federal Reserve has decided against lowering interest rates. That was the last time Jerome Powell spoke to the public and explained what the Federal Reserve's policy is going to be. And it's because of the fact that inflation continues to be sticky, this is not going to help the situation. Now, I want to just pause and say this because I think it's important to put my cards on the table. I'm not necessarily
Starting point is 00:06:43 against tariffs when you're implementing them with the intention to bring manufacturing back to the United States. But I need to see an actual plan in place. And also, you know, in the first Trump term, he had implemented tariffs against China that had really hurt our farmers. But he used those tariffs that the federal government collected to make those farmers whole as a result of the business they were losing due to those tariffs. Is anything going to be done to help Americans out at a time of inflation if they need to buy a car and car prices go up as much as $12,000. See, like there needs to be a strategy and a plan in place. And then you'll get buy-in from the American people. For now, I don't really see a strategy. And I don't even see a consistent
Starting point is 00:07:28 message from Donald Trump on this at all. Yeah. So a couple things about that. The reason that the farmers got that money is because they have a significant size lobby. There's some farmers but there's also giant farmers as farmers as in farming corporations so those guys put pressure on and say hey whatever you saved on the tariffs funnel over to us so it's another way of getting corporate donors a giant amount of money there might be some small businesses in there i hope there was but most of it will go to giant corporate interest so in this case though when you have to pay four thousand dollars for more more of a more for a car you don't have a lobby. So you're just going to have to eat it, right? And so, and that'll happen in all the
Starting point is 00:08:11 different places that Rand Paul is freaking out because it's not going to just hit the car manufacturers in his home state, but also bourbon and whiskey and all those other products. When those prices go up and you pay it, you don't have a lobby to get it back, no way. And he says, all of this will raise, don't worry, everything's going to be fine, $100 billion. Let's assume that that's true because it could be true. It could raise some money. It could have downsides, but still raise money. Okay, how's that going to pay for your $4.5 trillion tax cut? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Oh, then we'll be down to $4.4 trillion tax cut. So it doesn't matter at all because all they're going to destroy the debt and the deficit momentarily. So this is all as a way of like distracting you as if they're doing big, you know, additions to the revenue through tariffs and, and, you know, deductions from the budget in terms of costs through dose. And none of which is really happening. So some of the small changes at Doge again, also they brag on the website for Doge. We've saved a hundred thirty billion dollars. And a lot of Democrats are disproving that or reporters are disproving some of that. But that's not important because even if you give them that, say it's all they actually did save the whole hundred and thirty billion.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Okay, now we're down to four point three trillion dollars hole in the deficit because the rich want tax. And guys, take a step back and look at the whole picture here. Because if you just look at the tariffs in a vacuum, you might either like them or hate them, whatever. But if you take a step back and you kind of look at what's been transpiring with Trump's economic policy so far, you have this austerity agenda, quite frankly, right? They're looking to cut some of these social safety net programs, including Medicaid to the tune of $880 billion. dollars, and that was the direction given to the committee in the house responsible for Medicaid. They were told through this budget blueprint that they need to find $880 billion
Starting point is 00:10:09 in cuts. And so you have austerity coupled with tariffs that are very likely, if he goes through with it, going to increase prices, interest rates remain high, inflation remains high or sticky. I mean, American consumers, Americans in general, are going to be crushed by this. And by the way, I haven't even mentioned the stock market. The stock market has been a bit of a disaster. It's been incredibly turbulent. But right now, as I speak, the stock market is down. You know, I'm not crying tears for the wealthiest. You know, the top 10% are the ones who are mostly invested in the stock market. But think about all the people who have their retirement funds. We're suffering right now as a result of the stock market downturn. Yeah. So, so,
Starting point is 00:10:55 box in a YouTube member section is an interesting guy with different points of view. He writes in pretty often. By the way, become a member, be part of the show like boxes. You could hit the join button below on YouTube. Rich folks, he says, don't like more taxes. That's why they're so afraid right now. Bring on the tariffs. Interesting. But here's what I say back to you, Box. I hear you, but there is, and we've talked about this on a couple of shows, there's a right way to do tariffs.
Starting point is 00:11:21 So you think through, okay, what are reciprocal? What is China do? in this vertical, right? And what can we do to match them? It's not fair that they're putting X amount of tariffs on us, but we're not putting it on them. Fair, okay? No problem. We can do that in a lot of different places. Hey, what's a tariff that protects this particular industry in America that's important to national security or just is important for manufacturing? And how do we mitigate the downsides of the tariff that will come? That's the kind of strategizing that a smart populist would do about tariffs, right? But I know that these tariffs have absolutely no chance of working because they haven't strategized at all.
Starting point is 00:11:56 That's exactly right. They haven't figured out how to mitigate any of its downsides. That's why he's going up and down, flip flopping nonstop. They haven't thought it through. They're not targeting. They're doing it in a broad way. They're not saying, hey, we're going to go reciprocal with Japan and South Korea there. But European Union is okay because we're already on the same level.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Whatever it might be, I give that is just a hypothetical. Instead, they're going blanket all against all of our allies. Okay, European Union, Canada, Japan, it doesn't matter. you're all getting it. Well, okay, that doesn't make any sense. And it, so things that don't make sense blow up. They do go boom, but not the way that Trump fix. Now, maybe this exchange will change box's mind because NBC reporters were talking to Trump and they asked him what his message was to the motor industry CEOs and whether he had warned them against raising prices. is here's what Trump said.
Starting point is 00:12:52 The message is congratulations, if you make your car in the United States, you're going to make a lot of money. If you don't, you're going to have to probably come to the United States because if you make your car in the United States, there is no tariff. When pressed, if he told CEOs not to raise prices, here's how Trump responded. No, I never said that, I couldn't care less if they raise prices because people are going to start buying American-made cars, I couldn't care less, I hope. they raise their prices, because if they do, people are gonna buy American-made cars,
Starting point is 00:13:26 we have plenty. Okay, so we don't have plenty. Actually, Tesla happens to be the most American-made car, not just in terms of being manufactured here. Yes, they also have manufacturing plants in other countries as well, but they manufacture Teslas in the United States. And, you know, in terms of the parts used to manufacture the cars, they're mostly American parts, but there are some foreign made parts as well. The point is, it seems like if he does go through with this tariffs policy, the car company that stands to benefit the most would be Tesla, no? Yeah, second most. Rivian would benefit the most. Tesla, the second most. Ford is somewhere in the middle and then GM and Stalantis would be very hard. What are you doing Ford?
Starting point is 00:14:09 What are you doing Ford? You're really gonna make your cars in the US. Come on. Okay, so that's why we're in an interesting situation here, where we do want to protect manufacturing in America. We do want cars made in the US. So that's why we're not blanket against tariffs. Some tariffs for that industry might make some sense. But I have no confidence that they've put any kind of decent thought into this. And then here's Tesla popping up. And this is not us. This is senior analyst in an article on CNBC, right, explaining Tesla does wind up being a big winner here because the price of their competitors' cars will go up significantly. And there's won't. Now, Elon says, well, we're also going to increase prices.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah, don't worry. We're also going to increase prices. No, he says we're also going to be hurt by some of these tariffs. Yes, but a lot less so than the other car dealers and the other car makers, I should say. And so that's why they stand again. And that's what the analysts say. Maybe that is a coincidence. Maybe that isn't. That's so for you to decide. So regardless of how you feel about this entire economic situation, when you take a look at the bigger picture, Americans not so happy. Remember, Donald Trump got elected over Kamala Harris because more Americans felt that he would be better for the economy as opposed to Kamala Harris. But that has not really come to fruition for voters. And that's based on what they're saying in these polls. So let's go to this CBS UGov poll and you'll see how people are grading him based on various areas of his administration. So when it comes to immigration, for instance, he still has high marks, 53% of respondents say that they approve, but 47% disapprove the economy.
Starting point is 00:15:54 More Americans disapprove at 52% than approve 48% of Trump's handling of the economy. So he's starting to really suffer in the polling when it comes to how he's handling the economic situation in the United States. Let's go to the next one. So if you look at this graphic, just 23% of Americans now believe Trump's economic policies are making them better off. That's down from 42% in January. Nearly twice as many people now say he's making their finances worse. And that's a massive 33 point swing, better off prevailed by a 14 point margin in January, but now trails by 19%.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Also, many voters believe that Trump's priorities are kind of out of whack here. Let's take a look at this graphic. So 64% of Americans think the Trump administration is not focusing enough on lowering, prices while 55% believe he's focusing too much on tariffs. And the overwhelming majority of respondents, that's 72% also believe the tariffs will create price increases in the short term. And honestly, likely the long term, if he doesn't have a strategy in place to actually foster and facilitate the manufacturing in the U.S. necessary to keep costs down. And final thing that I'll leave you with, Jenk, is Caroline Levitt, White House Press Secretary, was confronted
Starting point is 00:17:15 about the terrible polling numbers, and she decided to blame an interesting figure here. Let's take a look. Is the president doing enough to answer the needs and demands of the American voter when it comes to the economy and lowering prices? The president and his economic team are working on this effort every single day, and the president is not only trying to fix the mess created by the previous administration's incompetence and reckless spending, he is trying to fix decades of unfair trade practices that have ripped our country off, that have sent jobs overseas, and that have forced millions
Starting point is 00:17:56 of Americans out of their jobs. So I guess we're blaming Biden for what's happening in the economy at this very moment. Yeah, I wouldn't leave out Clinton or Obama or Carter or Grover Cleveland. So brother, we know what the economy was when you took over and now it's gotten worse. And so here's the thing that apparently people in Washington don't understand you because the Democrats certainly don't understand it. They thought, no, even though Joe Biden can't speak, we'll pretend he's young and dynamic and we'll trick the whole country, right?
Starting point is 00:18:30 Now Trump and his team think, even though prices are going up and they're about to skyrocket in some places like, you know, in cars, we're going to pretend that it wasn't us and it wasn't the tariffs and it was Biden and Jimmy Carter and James Polk. Okay, good luck. You're trying to do the same, you know, tricky-pizziky maneuver that the Democrats say. It's not that tricky. Yeah, and how did that wind up for them?
Starting point is 00:18:57 It didn't. So by the way, look, there's something great going on here. Such a silver lining to this story and a lot of other stories. Politicians these days are getting caught a lot quicker, okay? Okay, so if you asked me, how long is it going to take for Trump voters to turn on Trump? I would have said, I mean, we're not even having that conversation until six months in. At eight or nine months, you might start to see some cracks. And at 18 months, I think we'll probably be in trouble.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Here, look at that poll, 33 points swing on if you're better off economically since January. Yeah. That's just like with two, max three months. And already the Trump voters are like, no, I'm not better. off. You can keep telling me I'm better off and you can keep telling me Joe Biden's young, but I see the price of eggs and I see the price of everything. And I'm not better off. And so that is super refreshing to see because you'd be shocked at how much propaganda from both sides affects polling, right? That's true, yes. But I think the tactic of attempting to gaslight the
Starting point is 00:20:01 American people never worked. It's not working right now. And I'm glad to see it's not working. Americans aren't gas lightable, okay, they live in the real world, they see what their finances look like, they see what the economic conditions are. You can't convince them otherwise. Yeah, I'm gonna keep saying that. The fact that the mainstream media monopoly has been broken is amazing news. Yep. Because people are getting their news now from a whole bunch of different sources and not just from two propaganda outlets. So that's why they're catching on much quicker. So Trump could start keep trying to play these games, but I think he didn't get caught on the economy last time, partly because he had the establishment on his team pumping the brakes and they wound up in some sort of weirdo balance that halfway worked for three years, right? And you can say, hey, I'm wrong about that, et cetera, no problem. But what you're going to see here is now without those brakes in the car, he's going to hit that brick wall a lot quicker. And then what he does after that will be interesting. I don't know what he'll do. Well, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu from Israel calls the shots in the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:21:07 He seems to know it and is bragging about it. We'll give you that story and more when we come back. or moving to campus. IKEA has hundreds of design ideas and affordable options to complement any budget. After all, you're in your small space era. It's time to own it. Shop now at IKEA.ca.
Starting point is 00:21:42 All right, back on TYRT, the online news network, Thank you, your Anna Kasparian, and America with you. America. Okay, Casper, what are you got? This story is wild, so buckle in, buckle up. Let's get to it. This is why we must all come in. President Trump's decisive actions against anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And we must pressure other governments to do the same. Is the United States government now just taking edicts and orders from Israel? Is this what people voted for when they elected? Trump is to have a country taking orders from Israel, I don't think so. You just heard from Tim Dillon, who isn't some lefty, and it is pretty clear that Israel is calling the shots in the United States as students have their visas and green cards revoked and are getting arrested simply for expressing criticism of how Israel is prosecuting the war in Gaza. And you don't have to take it for me. In fact, take it from Israel's prime minister,
Starting point is 00:22:58 Benjamin and Yahoo. These ignorant demonstrators, who are they demonstrating for, for these murderers, these rapists, these mass killers? This is a reflection of a deep rot that has pervaded the intellectual hub of free societies. And this vilification of Israel, the Jewish people, and Western values has been propagated by a systemic alliance between the ultimate. progressive left and radical Islam. It must be resolutely fought by civilized societies to safeguard their future.
Starting point is 00:23:38 This is why we must all come in President Trump's decisive actions against anti-Semitism. And we must pressure other governments to do the same. I'm just gonna comment briefly on what he had to say about a free society in Israel, because it reminded me of something I came across for my good friend Ben Burgess on X today. He shared a headline with the public. Let's take a look at this. Today's update from the only democracy in the Middle East, Israeli troops killed 15 Palestinian medics and buried them in a mass grave, UN says. That's just the latest. Yeah. So first of all, Israel.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Don't protest it though. Sorry. First of all, Israel is not a democracy. You can't imprison five and a half million people in open air prisons. murder them anytime you like, cut off their power, electricity, and food and water anytime you like, and claim you're a democracy. That's absurd. Totally absurd. In no other country that enslaves five and a half million other people gets to call themselves a democracy. So it's always been propaganda from day one.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Number two, Nan Yahoo does so much damage to, in causing anti-Semitism throughout the world. He keeps conflating Israel with Jewish people across the world. Those two things are not the same thing. My friends here in America did not want to help you in your genocide and ethnic cleansing. So stop saying, and by the way, take another country. Erdogan is doing now monstrous things in Turkey and trying to end democracy there. But criticizing Erdogan doesn't mean you're criticizing me. Okay, I'm criticizing Erdogan.
Starting point is 00:25:15 It doesn't mean you're criticizing Turkish people. If we did this with every country, we drive hatred towards every set of people. Because the Turkish government is at some point going to do terrible things. And I don't want people to hate Turks over it. The Israeli government is going to do terrible things. Is in the middle of doing terrible things. You shouldn't hate Jewish people over it. But Nanyahu is constantly trying to confuse you on that, right?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Oh, my government equals all Jewish people. So that's because he doesn't want his government criticized, right? But in reality, he's doing massive damage to Jews across the world by equating them with one of the most monstrous governments we've had in our lifetime. No, Dick Cheney does not represent all of America and Netanyahu does not represent all Jewish people in the world. Now he's, but look at what he does, man. This guy's a trope machine, right? As people are trying, are worried about anti-semitism. He's like, now we will pressure all the governments to follow my orders.
Starting point is 00:26:05 How does that help? And I'm glad that Donald Trump has been walked around like a dog. I gave him a little biscuit in a treat and he did exactly as I ordered him. Now I will order Germany and France and other countries to do exactly as I said. but don't be believe in an anti-Semitic trope about how I control the world. What are you doing, man? What are you doing? Don't do the trope? And so, and by the way, they don't. Do they control Indonesia? No, they don't. Do they control Norway and other countries? No, Ireland, no, Ireland's an open revolt against Israel. So it's the trope is not true, but
Starting point is 00:26:36 Netanyahu's trying to make it appear like it's true, right? Let's hold on. I think it's really, really important to differentiate between Jewish people, okay, and the Israeli government, okay? Jewish people do not control the world. That is the trope, and it's a disgusting trope. The government of Israel controls the United States. Yes, that's definitely true. It does. It does. Let's just keep it real. I mean, come on, we're literally, by the way, how many students at this point? Obviously, Mahmoud Khalil was the first student who was arrested, you know, sent away, no one even knew which detention center for some days until we finally figured out where he was. He was just the first one.
Starting point is 00:27:16 There's also Ali Reza de Rudy. He is an Iranian student. There isn't even any evidence of him engaging in any protest against Israel's war against Gaza. And then there's Osterk, who's the Turkish American. Sorry, she's not American, she's on a student visa. Yes. That was in Boston. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And she's working on her PhD. She did an op-ed talking about economic boycott of Israel. They're like, that's it, you're under arrest. And you're going to get deported. That's crazy. Okay, that's for an op-ed? That is supposed to go against our values as Americans, okay? These students didn't do, they didn't engage in terrorism, they didn't harass Jewish
Starting point is 00:27:56 students, there's no evidence of that. They simply stated their opinion. And in the case of Osterk, she was a co-author in an op-ed for the student paper. Yeah. Okay, so he's over there, Netanyahu's over there bragging about how they managed to get this accomplished and they want to go further and let's not forget what he mentioned about this alliance among the progressive left and radical Islam what? Yeah, I want to get to that in a second. So one last thing about Israel controlling countries is does Saudi Arabia and UAE partly control
Starting point is 00:28:29 America through their funding of think tanks, lobbyist groups, etc. in the way that they funnel money to both parties. Yes, yes, it's not just Israel, okay? But does Israel have you know, significant and massive control over the American government through donations that are legal here in America. People who love Israel, they're American citizens, presumably, almost we think they, as far as I know, let's put it that way, they all give and they go, now I want you to support Israel, okay, and I don't want any questions. I don't want any nuance. My group, A-PAC, Democratic majority for Israel, et cetera, and they're not just supporting, they're They're definitely not supporting Jewish Americans.
Starting point is 00:29:12 They've actually targeted some Jewish members of Congress. And 70% of Democrats, I'm sorry, Jewish Americans, by the way, voted against Trump. Okay, so, but what they are saying is now we support the Israeli right wing. And if you dogs that we give money to, like the drug companies, do oil companies, et cetera. If you dogs don't behave, we will take away your treats. And almost 100, not 100, 98% of the Republican Party. and a huge percent of like 60 percent at a bare minimum of the Democratic Party. Go absolutely, sir, who do you want me to bow to? Netanyahu, standing ovation after standing
Starting point is 00:29:48 ovation. You want to commit more war crimes, blank check after blank check. Does Israel control Washington, D.C.? Yes. You'd have to be really a giant liar or enormously biased to say that they don't. You'd have to go out of your way to like twist reality to say they don't. Of course they do. Look, this question came up, Jank, during my appearance on Pierce Morgan show last week, right? And it was really interesting because people usually can't wait to interrupt you. Pierce Morgan himself can't wait to interrupt you as you are answering the question he just asked you. But no one interrupt me interrupted me when I was saying what I needed to say.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And so I want to go to video five here, and you'll get a sense of why I believe the Israeli government does have control over the American government. Take a look. But this principle of deporting students for their political allegiances or views, where do you sit on that? I mean, our government will certainly try to do that as long as the government of Israel demands it. And our government, whether you're talking about Democrats or Republicans is completely controlled by the Israeli government and they're going to do the Israeli government's bidding. That's what this is really about. That's all it is. So protesters who
Starting point is 00:31:20 are legal residents, permanent residents who have green cards will be deported simply for exercising their freedom of speech and criticizing how the Israeli government is prosecuting this war in Gaza, slaughtering tens of thousands of innocent women, children, elderly people, civilians. They're going to continue the slaughter. They don't want any backlash from anyone in the United States about it, including American citizens, including permanent residents. And remember, Miriam Adelson and the Adelson family overall gave Donald Trump hundreds of millions of dollars to not do its right for the United States, but to do its right for Israel. So Donald Trump is going to do that.
Starting point is 00:32:05 I mean, you think you think Trump is like sitting around thinking about, you know, these students and how much he himself personally wants to deport them? No, he's doing a transaction. Yeah, come on. Imagine Trump's like, I read that op-ed at Tufts. Come on. Now I want to take action on it. No, he got an order from APEC to deport the enemies of Israel. And he's doing it like a good boy. And not even enemies, like slight critics of Israel. So look, I think that that clip Anna showed you is really interesting because if Anna had said that on CNN just two years ago, three years ago, right, she would have been escorted out
Starting point is 00:32:44 of the building. And the host would have jumped down her throat. Every other panelist would have jumped down her throat. Now it's like, well, who would object? The right doesn't object. The left doesn't object. Any sentient human being knows that Israel controls Washington, D.C. And it's not complicated, how through the campaign donations?
Starting point is 00:33:00 It's legalized bribery, right? So, okay, along those lines, I was listening to a club random podcast as Bill Maher's podcast when Andrew Schultz was on. It's a really good podcast, by the way, in that particular episode, Andrew Schultz's an interesting cat, and he convinced Bill Maher on a couple of things that I thought were great. Anyways, but when they got to this issue, Bill, of course, as always, frothing at the mouth about Israel, right?
Starting point is 00:33:25 Mahmoud Khalil's a terrible guy. he's filled with hate, ah, right? You don't know anything about Mahmouda, right? Right. But nevertheless, this is a hilarious way of me giving Bill more credit. Okay, nevertheless, he's like, yeah, no, we shouldn't deport him. That's crazy. Even if I hate him, even if I hate his opinions on Israel, why are we deporting someone for speech?
Starting point is 00:33:49 Thank you, Bill. Thank you for not being a hypocrite and for living up to what has been your ideals on free speech for all along. So there are actually some on the right who are condemning what's happening with these green card, you know, students who are being sent away, arrested, their green cards revoked. We're going to get to them in just a minute. But I actually want to go to one other video because in this next clip, you're going to see David Friedman, who actually was Trump's ambassador to Israel in his first term. He doesn't just stop at progressives and their critique of Israel. He's also focusing on the right wing as well. And I suspect that this is waking the right wing up.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Yeah, and it's not going to play well. Because if you think that free speech violations are only going to impact the left, you'd be mistaken. Take a look. I condemn anti-Semitism on the right and on the left. I'm an equal opportunity condemner of anti-Semitism. You're alluding to Candace Owens and Tucker Colson. Yeah, none of them are any good.
Starting point is 00:34:56 On the right, on the left, I don't like any of these anti-Semites, and I'm not shy about it. But the government, a government, the United States government or the government of France or the government of any other country, has the power to rein in anti-Semitism in a much more effective way. And, you know, people say, well, you know, the governments are not in the business of changing the way people think. changing the way people think. That's true. But, you know, to my thinking, most people who are, you know, anti-Semites, most of these people running around, we're not going to win their hearts and minds because they don't have hearts and they don't have minds. So, you know, how are we going to, there's no reason to think we're ever going to convince them. But we can deport them.
Starting point is 00:35:34 We can put them in jail. We can make their lives miserable. We can cut off their funding. And that's what the Trump administration is doing for the first time. Okay. Now understand what he considers anti-Semitism. And by the way, you're an American citizen, if you are spewing anti-Semitic garbage, you're actually free to do that as long as you don't act on it, right? Free speech is a thing. Hate speech is protected under the First Amendment. This guy thinks that simply criticizing how Israel is prosecuting the war is already anti-Semitic. It's already anti-Semitism. And he wants to throw you in prison for it. Yeah. In prison for it. And by the way, that was an answer to a question about Tucker Carlson
Starting point is 00:36:15 and can of so on us. So we're not talking about student visas anymore. Oh my God. Now we're talking about core American podcasters, people in media on the right and the left. If you criticize Israel, he says, well, you have no heart and you have no mind. You have no heart because of course you should know when Israel slaughtered 15,000 children, it was the most moral thing to do. And if you dare disagree, we'll arrest you and what did he say? Oh, we'll cut off your funding. By the way, He's like, it's anti-Semitic to say that the Jews would control speech in America. But if you dare cross Israel, we will cut off your funding. We will deport you.
Starting point is 00:36:55 We will arrest you. But don't say it. If you say it, what I just said, I'm going to call you an anti-Semma. Maybe I'll throw you in prison. Okay. If you dare trust me, I will control every part of your life. But no, no, no, don't say that. Don't say that.
Starting point is 00:37:08 No, look, this clown does not represent all Jews in America. my friends do not control a damn thing. Okay, they would like Israel to stop. Okay, so, but some powerful people in this country like him believe that Israel is the boss of us. And that if we have the temerity to even politely disagree with Israel, then there will be severe consequences from a lobby he controls and other people like him control. And but don't worry, left wing and right wing, they're equal opportunity condemners. Israel condemns America and condemns all of your media.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Oh, okay, good to know, good to know. He also said something along the lines of it's not good enough to say you're against anti-Semitism, you have to be anti-Semitic, which is exactly what like Ibram ex-Kendi would get like skewered about by the right wing because it was, you know, his whole argument is it's not good enough to be against racism. You have to be anti-racist, which is a separate thing. And it's just, people are calling these guys out because they're like, yeah, the right wing hates this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:20 We hate this. This is what they consider wokeism, right? Yep, 100%. With that in mind, let's now go to Tim Dillon. So he's a comedian, if you're not familiar with him, he is not a lefty. But he's not really liking what's happening right now with the targeting of these students. So let's take a look at what he had to say. say. I didn't vote on letting any of these people into the country. No one did, by the way. But I'm certainly not for removing people that have a differing opinion. That is free speech. I don't think
Starting point is 00:38:49 that's the right way to go. But let's watch this disappearance. Is this being done from America for Israel. I mean, this is a fair question. Is the United States government now just taking edicts and orders from Israel? I think it's a fair question to ask. Does anyone feel safer with this woman off the streets? Is this the American government's? Is this what people voted for when they elected Trump is to have a country taking orders from Israel? I don't think so. She's a legal US resident. She participated in pro-Palestinian protests as a legal US resident. Her arrest falls, the White House is cracked down on what it is classified as anti-Semitism on U.S. campuses. What is this? And does anyone feel uncomfortable with this?
Starting point is 00:39:51 Yeah, I feel deeply uncomfortable with this. And I'm happy to see that it's not just lefties who feel uncomfortable with it. You also have people like Eli Lake. Eli Lake is a big defender of Israel has spoken out against what's happening to these students. I give him a lot of credit for that. Dave Smith, of course, has been speaking out against this. He's a libertarian. So more and more people who are Trump supporters are coming out and saying, no, this is not okay. This goes against our values. And I commend them for that because there's a lot of free speech warriors out there that ain't really about free speech when it's inconvenient for them. Yeah, I literally don't I don't know a single Jewish American debt is in favor of these kidnappings.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Okay, so like this isn't to serve Jews, this isn't to fight anti-Semitism. This is to serve a lobby that is for a foreign government. And so the fact that comedians and right wingers, et cetera, are all waking up going, wait, what did she do against America? Right. Nothing. Or what does she do against Israel? You're not allowed to have an opinion about a foreign country, really?
Starting point is 00:40:58 Well, apparently, in America, you could be exchange soon, you could be a green card holder, resident alien that's legally here. You could have any vicious opinion you like about America or white people or black people or, by the way, ironically, of Jews. You could say any anti-Semitic thing you like. But if you say something against Israel, you're going to be taken out, okay? And look, last couple of things here, we had this hilarious poll. Does Netanyahu have too much influence in the United States? I'm just curious, it's in the live chat shows at 6 o'clock every day. 5% believe no.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Nope, what influence Netanyahu. But anyway, 955, that's not surprising. Last thing is, if you notice there, the topic I wanted to come back to, Netanyahu started saying now the left in America equals radical Islam. So, so that we're terrorists, right? So now the left has to get locked up. And he didn't say student visa. He didn't say green card.
Starting point is 00:41:57 He just left equals radical Islam. So now if you're on the left, you better watch yourself because the Israeli thought police might just arrest you if Netanyahu gets his way. But as you saw with Friedman, they're saying, well, we start with the left. But we're equal opportunity condemers. So Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and everyone else, you start slightly criticizing Israel. We got a jail in Louisiana and then one in El Salvador, that Israel, that Israel, can send you to via the US government.
Starting point is 00:42:28 It's pretty gross. All right, when we come back, why don't we get into some of the updates on Trump's immigration policies because now you have folks like Joe Rogan and Constantine Kissin speaking out against it. We'll be right back. All right, back on TYT, Jink and Anna with you guys. We mentioned boxes, it's Boxes day today. So he wrote in a super chat, I just want to read this real quick.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Anna, the comment section in the Peers video was overwhelmingly positive for you, left, right center, we're all praising you, it was a breath of fresh air. It was, it was great, you should check it out. So we put up as much of our appearance as we can on t.yt.com slash press. So you can see us on other channels, other networks, etc. And you'll notice, by the way, we're on left, right, and center, despite what some people say. So check those out. And yeah, common sense is resonating with everybody these days. We should all give it a shot. People are hungry for it. And I don't blame them. I think everyone needs it. So.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yeah, you know what people can't stand anymore except some, which is like super partisan. My side is 100%. Right. My side is 100%. People are sick of that crap. Except, of course, So yeah. Okay. All right, well, let's, let's check in on what's going down with some of Trump's immigration policies. There's a new federal judge ruling that we're going to get into in just a minute as well. But first, let's start with this. You got to get scared that people who are not criminals are getting like, lassued up and deported and sent to like El Salvador prisons. With a bunch of these Trendar Agua guys, allegedly they got one guy, who at least one guy who wasn't a criminal, who was just a gay barber, who I think according to
Starting point is 00:44:31 the story came here legally. He was here legally, that's what they said. Joe Rogan and Constantine Kissen weighed in on the wrongful deportation of a Venezuelan migrant who was sent to a maximum security prison in El Salvador with ICE claiming that he was a member of Trendi Aragua. However, it appears that is not the case. In fact, he wasn't even in the United States illegally. He was here legally, he had a legitimate asylum claim. He came in through a port of entry and made that asylum claim. And his name's Andrew Hernandez, he's a gay makeup artist who's been an outspoken critic
Starting point is 00:45:15 of Venezuela, and I just feel like it's pretty obvious he's not a trended Aragua gang member. Yeah, they don't even allow gay people into the gang. So among a thousand reasons why he's not a gang member. So this is what happens when you don't do the process. Exactly. Because the courts are supposed to check. Oh, is he a gang member or isn't he? Oh, is he undocumented or isn't he?
Starting point is 00:45:38 Did he come here legally or not? Because if you don't check, you get people who did come here legally. And that aren't in a gang. And that's why if he did this without doing it in a dumb way, and he just rounded up the actual gang and made sure they shipped them off, Some people would still be mad that he's sending him to a hellhole in El Salvador. But overall, the American people would be massively on his side. Yeah, and look, I want to be 100% clear.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Everyone, including individuals who are suspected of being gang members, and there's actual evidence showing that they're part, it doesn't matter. You need to go through the proper channels. There needs to be due process. There's a reason why due process exists. And if you think it's okay to just throw it away, when it comes to individuals who the federal government is simply accusing unilaterally of doing something criminal.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Well, I mean, you're really allowing so much power to be concentrated in the federal government to the point where they can accuse anyone of anything. And you don't get your day in court. That's crazy. That is absolutely insane. And I'm really happy that people are waking up to how insane that really is. Now in this case, we're talking about a Venezuelan migrant who made a, you know, legitimate asylum claim through the proper channels.
Starting point is 00:46:56 He was in the country legally. He's sent to El Salvador, meaning a third country, to a detention facility for hardened criminals and terrorists, that's SICOT. That's insane. Now, again, he had sought asylum in the United States through a port of entry, but the Trump administration argues that he's part of Trenda Aragua because he has gang tattoos. Oh, interesting, so, you know, they make the claim, I want to see the gang tattoos, maybe they have a legitimate argument here.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Here's what the tattoos look like. Here are the tattoos that ICE declared were evidence that, you know, this guy, gay makeup artist who came to a port of entry seeking asylum from Venezuela was a member of a vicious gang. I'm not making this up, this is it, mom and dad with crowns over them. Those are not gang tattoos. But apparently it didn't matter because despite the fact that it's obvious those aren't gang tattoos, His lawyers have not been able to reach him since March 15th. And after interviewing him, he says he is not a member of the gang.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Somehow an ICE officer concludes that despite all that, his two crown tattoos and mom and dad written under them are consistent with those of a Trend de Aragua member. No, they're not. No, they're not, they're just lying. So with that context in mind, and knowing that this is what Rogan. and Kisten are talking about. Let's hear more of what they had to say. I think a human being being plucked out of nowhere
Starting point is 00:48:29 and ending up in a country's never been in, in a maximum security prison with gang members, seems like a bad thing to happen to me. It's horrific. It's horrific. I don't think that should be controversial. No, that's not controversial at all. And this is the thing, you know, measured twice, cut once.
Starting point is 00:48:45 This is the, like, this is kind of crazy. That that could be possible. That's horrific. And that's, again, that's bad for. the cause like the cause is let's get the gang members out everybody agrees but what's not innocent gay hairdressers get lumped up with the gangs and then like how long before that guy can get out can we can we figure out how to get him out does ever does is there any plan in place to alert the authorities that they've made a horrible mistake and correct it well if you think
Starting point is 00:49:10 about it from a government perspective and this is where i think it gets quite sinister is once you've done that the incentive structure is never going to be to admit that and deal with The incentive structure is to say nothing, to cover it up, to pretend it didn't happen. But that is horrible. So someone ends up in a black hole. But we've seen it. Like, we've seen it in every country, including in America. But that's the thing about politics, right?
Starting point is 00:49:32 Never admit your fault. Never admit you're wrong. This is so dumb. And this is the thing we're seeing with the signal thing. And this is the thing we're seeing with this. And there seems to be more frustration with the lack of accountability or the willingness to take responsibility for mistakes made. So far we haven't heard anything from the Trump administration in regard to this specific individual who was sent away. But you should know
Starting point is 00:50:14 that we have so far spent about 40 million dollars to send migrants to El Salvador Seacot. And that's according to the State Department, they apparently did an analysis and provided that analysis to senators. There was a delegation of five senators who even visited, I'm sorry, that's for Gitmo. So we've spent $40 million to jail 400 migrants at Guantanamo Bay. So it's not just El Salvador. We're also sending them to Guantanamo Bay, But that has become so expensive that the Trump administration quietly stopped doing that. And they actually sent about half of those 400 migrants back to the United States because of how costly it was. But I should also note that we've been paying El Salvador as well.
Starting point is 00:50:59 The last time it was reported, we spent about $6 million to send migrants there. And now a federal judge has stepped in to, you know, do an emergency order to block, temporarily block what the Trump administration is doing. So this federal judge has issued the ruling saying that, listen, you can't do this without due process. Okay, so we're going to do a temporary block. This is federal judge, U.S. district judge Brian Murphy. He's based in Boston, and he stated that the Trump administration must give those. They want to deport a meaningful opportunity to seek humanitarian protection in the U.S. And Murphy wrote that officials may not deport someone to a so-called third country unless and until they
Starting point is 00:51:42 provide the deportee and their lawyer written notice of the country to which they are being sent. Then the judge said, officials must let them apply in immigration court for protection to stay in the U.S. under the convention against torture, which Congress ratified back in 1994. And then after that, the judge said the agency must await a final decision from an immigration judge. That's when the due process comes in. Yeah. So two really positive developments there, because what are we most worried about in the Trump years, that they're going to be lawless, right? So if they serve, if Trump serves four years, creates a giant mess, but at the end of the day, we get back to America, there's elections and Democrats can win, Republicans can win, and et cetera,
Starting point is 00:52:26 then it's all good, it's all good, right? So like the four years will be terrible, but that's the consequence of elections, so we've got to work harder to win, et cetera, right? So one, the courts hold up today, that's what just happened, what Anna just read you, right? So they say, no, you can't go without due process. You got to check with us first. Let's hope that Trump administration listens to the courts. So great, courts are holding so far. Then number two, I was led to believe that the entire brosphere, Joe Rogan, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:52:55 were all Trump cultists and would never disagree with him and would never hold him accountable. That looks like they were holding him accountable, okay? And that's not just Rogan, a constant kissing. So he's a guy who's on the right. I went on a show we had a big debate funny enough about transgender girls in high school sports. I said they should be in high school sports. He said they shouldn't and we had a big debate about that, but he's a free speech advocate. And I was like, well, let's see, when Trump gets into office, we'll see if you're a real free speech advocate.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And look at that. Turns out like here he is, this is not about free speech as much. It's more about don't send an innocent man to a jail in a foreign government, a foreign country where they're going to torture him. It's about the fundamental right of due process. Yes, but of human rights, human rights. So he stands up for him. Great job, constantly, nice job, we appreciate it. Rogan stands up for it, calls it horrific, says it shouldn't even be controversial. It's clearly wrong.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Now, it is controversial. There are MAGA guys who are totally like, oh, whatever, they're not citizens, who cares? I don't know, we don't know, maybe he became in here illegally. Oh, I trust Trump. Okay, that also exists, right? But here is independent media outlets and the personality is going, no, not on our watch. This is wrong. Now, I said that online.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And some people responded, not good enough. He has to apologize to all non-Trump. Okay, whatever. Who cares about that? But let's get back to the actual political analysis here. Because the one area where Trump is still doing well, the one area where he's not polling underwater is immigration. But if more and more stories like this come out, if more and more.
Starting point is 00:54:33 more of his supporters start speaking out against what his administration is doing with immigration, it will not bode well for Trump or the Republicans. And just to give you the latest numbers, according to the latest CBS UGov poll, on the topic of immigration, about 53% of Americans approve of what the Trump administration is doing and 47% disapprove. He's underwater in every other area, including the economy. And so that's something for him to keep in mind. you know, he thinks he's killing it with immigration, but if you make these massive mistakes and people, innocent people like this, you know, makeup artist, this gay makeup artist who spoke out against Venezuela and had a legitimate claim, asylum claim gets shipped off to a detention
Starting point is 00:55:17 facility for hardened criminals, gang members, and terrorists, people are going to start turning on you. Okay, two, last two things. Look, I would hope that even if you're on the right, that you would say, hey, it's one thing to send off guilty people to that hell hole in El Salvador, it's another thing to send off an innocent guy there. Right. Please tell me you think that. Okay, I think all decent people should agree to that. And I'm thrilled to see Rogan and kiss and agree on that as well. And then finally, to Anna's point, and what we're all saying here, which is, look, guys, there's still
Starting point is 00:55:52 significant issues about why not just send them back to their home country? Why, like, pay a government, some of our members wrote in about that too, a foreign government to like basically torture them there. So those are all legitimate questions. But if you're on the right, Anna's totally right, this is going to make your position totally unpopular. In fact, I think Rogan said it too. Like, so why are you being counterproductive? It doesn't make any sense. Now, on the left, they said there was no trend to Aragua. The rest of them are trend to Aragua. So I know that they weren't in Aurora, Colorado, according to some folks, okay, but they are. Now, most important thing, get him out of there right now. Look, guys, he's in, whenever one, he's innocent, he's not a gang
Starting point is 00:56:36 member, he has no one to protect him, and he's gay. Get him out of there. What are we doing? Yeah, and he didn't enter the country illegally. He entered the country through a legitimate port of entry. He had a legitimate asylum claim. He didn't come here for economic reasons. He's been speaking out against the government of Venezuela and is worried about being persecuted. That's one of the worst places on earth that prison. I can't imagine what they're doing to them. Every day that goes by is a travesty. Get him out of there.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And so we'll see if there's anyone in the Trump administration who'll listen to anyone or if they'll just go careening out of control as they have been from day one. All right. Well, we come back for the second hour. We'll talk a little bit about something else, Joe Rogan said that might surprise you. And it has to do with our health care system. Come right back. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I'm sorry. I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be. Thank you.

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