The Young Turks - Bored of Peace - August 10, 2026

Episode Date: August 11, 2026

Benjamin Netanyahu spikes the Board of Peace’s plan for Gaza. Iran reveals new demands for opening the Strait of Hormuz. Welker grills El-Sayed on Hasan Piker’s past comments. Hillary Clinton glaz...es Haley Stevens & slams progressives. Watch: Cenk debates Hasan Piker’s 9/11 comments on Piers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:00 Sorry, big time. So a bossam Yusuf on his guest host today. Boston, great to see you brother. How you doing? Hi, Chang. How are you? This is Bassem Yusuf, co-hosting today with Shane. There we go.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I'm good, brother, I'm good. All right, so a lot to get to. We do have a lot of news on the Iran war front. One is really positive piece of news. The other two are very negative pieces of news. We're gonna give all three to you guys. And then we've got a lot of discussion. about Abdul al-Said and the mainstream media, the establishment Democrats and the
Starting point is 00:04:21 right wing all converging to attack him, we will defend them. And then there's discussions about Hassan Piker, the never ending discussions about that. We'll tackle that in the second hour, plus flock cameras. A lot of Americans are saying flock off. So will we see the end of those? So that's an interesting conversation as well. So a lot to get to, let's get started with this first story. So in a move that is going to make peace a lot harder, Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli government
Starting point is 00:04:55 has rejected Donald Trump's peace offer to Hamas. And Hamas had already accepted it. But Israel says no to peace. Now I'm gonna break down what Trump said, what Netanyahu said, which is back, which is basically an open-handed slap. But Bassem, real quick up front. I know you must be shocked that Israel has rejected peace. Of course, I'm shocked.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I mean, I don't know why would you even like give any kind of importance to these kind of statements or these kind of events. Like Trump is offering peace and then it just, I think it's all, it's a game. It's a game. Nobody really believes that anymore. I think they're, they're just buying time in order to strike again and to hit again. They did that in Iran many times. They go into a peace process and then they would bomb them.
Starting point is 00:05:40 They would bomb Qatar, who are like you like the intermediates. Israel doesn't want peace and today actually it's mentioned today I guess in Jerusalem post I think they have a headlines where like it doesn't matter that we have peace with our neighbors they are just secretly planning to have war with us and they're talking about Turkey Jordan and Egypt so these people like it's I'm just like I don't know it's theatrics and I don't know why we even like waste time on them yeah well that's actually a really interesting point that I want to discuss a little bit more in a second. Let me tell everybody what Trump said, because I thought
Starting point is 00:06:18 that there was a, you know, a 1% chance that it was encouraging. We'll see if that 1% was justified or not. And then what Nanyahu was said in return. So Trump said today the Board of Peace reached a historic agreement for the complete disarmament of Hamas and all other armed groups in Gaza. The other armed groups are actually very relevant. We'll come back to that too. There's a monumental step toward lasting peace and security. He said the agreement will be carried out in carefully structured phases, which actually makes sense. As the armament is completed, Israeli forces will withdraw, and the international stabilization force will work with a new Palestinian police force to take responsibility for Gaza being
Starting point is 00:06:55 safe for its residents and its neighbors. This is actually a logical plan. That's why both sides, America and Hamas has agreed to this. The one, of course, stumbling block is always Israel because they never want people. But here, Hamas is saying, look, let's do it in parts. We disarm, they withdraw, we disarm, they withdraw, we hand it over to an international force. Makes perfect sense. Well, here comes, you know, the Israelis to screw that up.
Starting point is 00:07:21 NPR first says it's envisioned Israel's withdrawal from Gaza and Hamas' disarmament as part of a phase process rather than requiring Hamas to fully disarm before Israeli forces began pulling back. And that makes sense. Part of the reason is the reason Trump mentioned those other armed groups is there's armed militias working on behalf of Israel inside Gaza. So if Hamas gives up all of their weapons first, as Israel wants, gets no concessions back, and not even disarming the Israeli-backed militias, then they'll be at the mercy of those
Starting point is 00:07:56 militias. So that is a totally undoable ask, and they would never agree to it. It would basically be a death sentence for them. And then Israel will get to run Gaza completely and having done absolutely nothing in return. So that's unreasonable, that's why Benjamin Netanyahu doubled down on it. First, watch him speaking in Hebrew, that whenever he wants to hide something. It's got the subtitles and then for our audio audience, I'll read it as well. Asher for the Ura Aza, I'm going to want to have the thing
Starting point is 00:08:28 the key thing. All right, I'm, the House of the Umbudsman, not to cover the Palestinian, not in Aza and not in Ush, not Fattahstan, and not Hamasthan, and in asher things specific, that are up in the last year to come, I want to direct here. Israel sholololed at the Mismar 15-Nocud. I'm not you're not, I'm not. But here I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:08:54 Israel shonellel at the number 15. The Senate not will not have to make a nisigahmast from hischkow. And when I'm saying the Iraq of Hamas from hisqueur, it's the knife the heavy, the weapon the khan, all the nashok, and we're talking about a puruk amitie, not a puruk fictiv. That's basically saying to Trump, that's an open-handed slap boy. What are you going to do about there? Are you going to sit there and bleed all day or can do something? Yeah, Bossa. I disagree. I don't think it's an open slap. I think they want you to believe that they are in this agreement.
Starting point is 00:09:30 They want you to believe. Oh, Trump said this and Nathaniel said no. It's like, oh, my God, look, look, is it. I mean, are we playing this game again? Are we playing this game again? Do you remember my guys like Joe Biden and everything? Oh, we're going to withhold arms for Israel. We're going to not send any more weapons like, oh, Joe Biden is anti-semitic. Remember that? Yeah. And then Joe Biden will send the weapons and the things. And then they even called Trump, if you remember many times during this couple of years, anti-Semitic and you hate the Jews. And then Trump will say bad, like, will be tough on Netanyaro.
Starting point is 00:10:00 It's all an act. It's all an act. And at the end of the day, this is just like, this has been happening even before 1948. And I remember quite well when I studied this. It's like how in the beginning at 1948 when the Arabs came in and they kind of like gain ground. And then they, oh, okay, let's have truth. And then they used the truce in order to get more weapons in order to kill the Arabs and Palestinians. So I just like, it's not an open hand slap, it's not an insult to Trump.
Starting point is 00:10:25 It's not like Israel disrespecting Trump. It's all an act. But I just like, don't buy it for one second. So I'm, so I hear you on the general point and that's the point we make all the time. And then Axios comes in and they did in this case too. Oh, there was a lot of finger wagging and strongly worded letters and phone calls. You're totally right about that. But in this one, there's a little bit more nuance.
Starting point is 00:10:49 So let me read what Netanyahu said in English and why I say it's an open-handed slap. So he said, as long as I'm prime minister, a Palestinian state will not be established. So that's very definitive, of course, never covered by the American press. Neither in Gaza nor in Judean Samaria, that's the West Bank. So he's saying, no, we're gonna give the Palestinians absolutely nothing and try to enslave them for the rest of time. He said, neither Fatistan or Hamasthan. Hamas is obviously in Gaza, Fatah is in the West Bank. So he's saying even though the day Fatah did not attack us, we're never going to give them freedom anyway.
Starting point is 00:11:25 He says regarding specific matters surfacing in the news lately, I wish to be precise here. Israel does not accept the 15 point document. The IDF will not carry out any withdrawal until Hamas is disarmed. And when I see the disarming of Hamas, it means heavy weaponry, light weaponry, and all weaponry. And we're talking about genuine disarmament, not fictitious disarmament. So he's basically saying until we remove every rock and stick in Gaza, Israel's not going to withdraw because he said before very clearly, under no circumstances are they going to withdraw. They have 70% of Gaza and they're going to try to keep it. They're going to try to drive out all the Palestinians from the West Bank and try to keep it.
Starting point is 00:12:02 But Bassem, normally the way that they do this is, well, we love Donald Trump and it's a great honor to work with him. and he's such a big brother to us and his peace proposals are lovely and fantastic. You know, we're waiting for the disarmament of Hamas and, et cetera. Him saying, no, I reject his 15-point plan is a way of saying publicly, no, I'm against what Donald Trump is doing. Now, you could say that it's part of a coordinated, you know, back and forth, and it has been in the past. But why would Donald Trump agreed to being slapped publicly and saying, no, I'm not going to do your dumb peace plan?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Shut up, little boy, because that's what Nanyahu is saying, and he's saying it publicly. So is Trump like, I guess, and it's a fair point if you say he's signed up for this humiliation ritual and likes it when Nentiahu slaps him around publicly. But that is definitely not hiding the ball. It's saying we're not going to listen to America. But you're saying as if we didn't see this humiliation before. They humiliated him many times on Iran when he didn't want to strike. And then they would humiliate him until he would strike. Like is this the first time that Netanyahu humiliated Trump or humiliated America or humiliated the American administration?
Starting point is 00:13:23 It's again, it is a deja vu. This all like back and forth and then they give you the idea. I was like, oh, they're not in disagreement. You see, everybody who said like Trump is controlled. by Netanyahu, see how Trump did this on his own. And then he's just like, he's done, and then he folds. It is a game. It is a way to just like buy time.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Trump proposes a peace deal. Then Dentiniahu says no. And then in the meantime, Israel just like bomb Gaza with everything they got. Continue killing people every single day. Same thing on Lebanon. And how many times did Trump say like, enough, go back, enough hitting Lebanon. And then then then then the Nittaniahu go hit it. I get it's not an open slap.
Starting point is 00:14:04 It's not. And I think that we're just like reading too much into it. And I think they are just giving us this for us to have these like discussions. Oh, do you think Trump is being humiliated by Nathanielho? He doesn't care. He doesn't care. This is all a game. Now, let me back up Bossam's point.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Because as I mentioned earlier, usually Axios comes in and does a little bit of propaganda here. But sometimes it's accidentally revealing. So Barack Ravid wrote, a senior U.S. official told me the White House is, quote, not bothered by Netanyahu's statement on the Gaza plan and sees it as part of the election season in Israel. Well, that seems to back up what Bossam saying. He said, quote, we understand Bibi's political needs. We have no problem with it as long as he continues to do what we ask, especially regarding restraining attacks in Gaza, the U.S. official said. Except he hasn't done any of the things that you've asked. But that's interesting that the U.S. government is saying, yeah, we don't mind the humiliation ritual.
Starting point is 00:15:07 He tells us off publicly, and then we beg for forgiveness, and we go back to licking his boots. Then they have this piece of absurdity. Last week, Nanyahu spoke on the phone with President Trump's envoy, Jared Kushner, and promised to give the 15-point plan a chance. Come on. Despite his skepticism and curb attacks on Gaza. So the process of demilitarization of Gaza can begin, a U.S. officials said, since then Israel hasn't conducted attacks on Gaza and the IDF is gradually moving back to the yellow line. That's not true at all.
Starting point is 00:15:38 At the same time, the U.S. and the mediators are demanding that Hamas begins disarming. So the first half backs you up, Bassem. This is all a play, and Trump doesn't mind being slapped around. He's kind of, I don't know if he's into it politically or also sexually. I don't know, Okay, but that's, I don't care, but, but the second half says, who's Barak Rabid? Who's Barak Ravid anyway? Brock Ravid is a former IDF intelligence agent. Exactly, exactly, exactly. So we're taking our sources, we're taking ourselves from there, they are, they're making
Starting point is 00:16:11 the news, they're telling us what the news should be, are, they should us what do we think about the news. It's a closed system, like we're quoting Axis, which is basically an Israeli sigh up. in itself. So we're listening to Trump, we're saying anything out. We were taking, we're taking, what does that mean through their sources? Yeah, like we were really falling into the trap. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:34 No, no, we're not falling into any trap. It's a good conversation. One last quote. No, no, I'm not talking about you. I'm not talking about like the public, you know. Yeah, no, I'm with you. Yeah. Well, they're not falling into the trap either anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Mainstream media is. But all right, last ones from Netanyahu's office. They say right now we're talking with the Americans about this issue. They have ideas, some of which are acceptable to us and some of which are unacceptable. And we know how to stand firm against these things. We have proven this in the past and we're proving it today as well. Furthermore, the idea will continue to thwart threats against our forces and our citizens. So basically saying, the Americans have some ideas that are unacceptable, so we rejected
Starting point is 00:17:13 them. Bossam, to a point where we have 100% agreement, what is this? So okay, you don't agree with us and you're not gonna do anything we will. want, including the peace deal. So is there the super simple solution? We cut off all your funding until you find a way to accept it. Oh my, I didn't know that you're very good extent of comedy. That is, we, we, how dare we cut the aid to our masters?
Starting point is 00:17:42 Oh, come on. It's a freaking swamp man. I say this on stages, like I didn't believe that like, you know, so many people, left the Middle East to come to America, live the American dream, just to find out that they're still controlled by country in the Middle East. It's crazy, man. I mean, I just did a video a couple of days ago. It's like, make it make sense.
Starting point is 00:18:05 We are supposedly the superpower of the world and every single candidate go on stages. So like I stand with Israel. I support Israel. Well, go and run for office in Israel. Yeah. It's a broken system and I don't know like, I don't know what to make of this. I don't even know if we should even take any of these news seriously or even discuss them seriously because it doesn't make any sense anymore.
Starting point is 00:18:29 It doesn't matter anymore. So then I gotta ask you about what you think is actually gonna happen in the future in America, right? First of all, of course you're right. I mean, imagine if there was any candidate, let alone hundreds of candidates who are like obsessed with Turkey. And they're like, we gotta make Turkey the best country, the regional superpower. And Turkey comes to me in my dreams. You'd be like, what? Are you insane?
Starting point is 00:18:52 Why does Turkey come to your dreams? What a bizarre thing, right? And they happen to be coincidentally, totally financed to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars by the Turkish lobby. And the media is like, I can't connect the dots, right? So that's what's happening here. So we know, to your overall point, and one I agree with enthusiastically, we know that our politicians are corrupt and they work for Israel, 94% of them get money from Israel,
Starting point is 00:19:17 They vote with Israel. And our media is corrupt and they do all these silly games of hiring former IDF agents to write all their stories about Israel and how we have a special ally in relationship and we need to be good boys and girls and listen to everything Israel says and shut up about it and give them all of our money in our military. But the American people have turned now and about two thirds of them are against it. So since Washington is not gonna budge at all. And now they're trying to merge our military technology, get even deeper into a relationship with Israel.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And the American people can't stand it anymore and have realized, oh, the reason we never have peace, the reason we have endless wars in the Middle East is because Israel's making us do those wars. Those are all their neighbors that we're attacking on their behalf so they can take more of their land. So how does this movie end, Basel? Well, the movie ends in a very disturbing reality where everything that America has been making fun about the third war countries where people are living under oppression and they know that they're living under oppression and a living low under dictatorship, but they can't do anything about it because anybody who will talk will be either put in jail or have his career end. And we see kind of a glimpse of that reality in America right now because now anybody, we have many incidents where you have. have if if people criticize Israel, people criticize Zionism, critical exercise that you know, they actually have their career ending. Now, and now if you go a little bit further and you start to protest, you're going to get
Starting point is 00:20:54 beaten up, being thrown out of college. So if you continue that trajectory, you will have a full-blown dystopian reality where people are afraid to speak and if they do, they're going to be penalized and the media will tell you everything we're okay. We are the number one frequency in the world. We have freedom. And that would be the reality. we're heading to that. So people will be living knowing exactly who are their overlords is, who over overlords are and then not going to be too scared to speak about it, exactly like what happens in a military dictatorship or a religious dictatorship where everybody knows that it's not really a freedom, but we can't say anything about it. So I think we're heading towards that. I don't
Starting point is 00:21:36 know how many years are going to take. Yeah. It's scary to see this, but it's happening right now. You have, You have Mark Rubio, the secretary of state, telling we are going to revoke anyone's visas coming to this country if they are critical of Israel. Yeah, we're seeing that already. And so, yeah, I think, I think this is the dystopian reality we're heading to. Yeah, so it's hard to argue with that. I mean, obviously, Hassan Piker and I got banned from the United Kingdom for criticizing Israel. So our freedom of movement has been taken away from us, a portion of our freedom has. Hassan, I got banned from speaking at University of Washington just yesterday.
Starting point is 00:22:16 We'll talk about that later in the show. I'm banned from all of cable news. So the oppression is- You know what happened to me in the UK and Europe in my tour? What happened? So they didn't ban me, but they tried to ban me. The Zionist organization, they tried to revoke the visa that I already got. And every single entry point in the UK or Schengen visa in Europe, I spent over an hour.
Starting point is 00:22:40 And sometimes I would take into secondary inspection, like a freaking terrorist and had an American passport. Yeah. Can you imagine that? Yeah, now an American passport doesn't mean anything. Either you're in Israeli or you're not. The Israelis get special privileges for everything. But you got an American passport in the West Banker Gaza Strip. Israel will murder you in a second.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And 10 Americans murdered in the last three years and no one's even been arrested because they're spitting in our face. So look, I have a little bit more, I'm by nature a little bit more optimistic than by. I think America is a little bit different and and I think that people here are going to rebel. They're going to rebel against the system and I hope it's a political rebellion. But either way, there's a rebellion coming because Americans are going to sit there and be the dogs of another nation. And unfortunately, that has happened right underneath our news for a long, long time. And as people are waking up to it, they are becoming furious about it, no matter how much mainstream media and our politicians lie. All right, we're gonna take quick break here.
Starting point is 00:23:41 When we come back, one piece of good news about the Iran war, another piece of devastating news about the Iran war. And I'm very curious about Boston's reaction to that. And we'll talk about the attacks against Abdul El-Said as well. We'll go right back. Hassan Piker. All right, so I'm gonna read these blind. Let's go to YouTube members during the break here.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Kevin Shea says, Little Birdie told me we're running low on interceptors, LOL. Yes, that's why we're not going full board. at this point, but Israel keeps saying, shut up, who cares? We don't care if your troops die. Go back into the war, okay? So that's the next story. Disrupt Daily says, just finish watching Jenka on peers. They straight up, ganged up on him with lies in propaganda, shake my head.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Hey, I like some of those guys. It's okay. It was three against, four against one today, but that's called Tuesday for me. No problem. RB net engineer, which I now know is not robot engineer, says, I wonder how many Americans actually know that billions in military aid we give to Israel, is actually going to U.S. defense contractors to build the weapons. Yeah, no, we give it to Israel.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Israel gives defense contractors. They take the money. So it comes out of our pocket. But yes, both the Israeli lobby and the defense contractor lobby love that corruption. They live off that corruption. and they both push aggressively for that money to be wasted given to a fascist government. CRJ likely C-R-J writes in, it's not a Monday unless Trump says to the market bros were close to peace. Totally right.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Wong-Jun says, and once again, pro-war Senator Lizzie Graham was unavailable for comment. Way to stay professional, Lindsay, that's funny. Pete says, I'm sure Lindsay doesn't think it's funny, but anyways, Pete says, The flock America theater goddess says considering Israel considers pebbles thrown by children weapons of mass destruction. Netanyahu is saying all weapons must mean means nothing will ever be good enough. Of course, that's the whole point. So Israel's never going to leave Gaza unless they're made to. We'll be back. Back on the young church, Jane Hugar and Bossam Yusuf with you guys. Another really important story here. So Donald Trump claims he's looking for a way out of the
Starting point is 00:26:30 Iran war. I'm curious what Bossum thinks about that. And if this, he thinks that one is anyone or not, but he's apparently gotten desperate enough that he's taking nukes off the table, which is a bit shocking. So let me read that to you, Bossam, and then get your reaction. According to the Wall Street Journal, for weeks, President Trump had been laying the ground work to declare victory in the Iran war, should Tehran fully reopen the Strait of Hormuz, even floating the idea privately to senior aides that he's willing to walk away without a nuclear deal, the US officials said.
Starting point is 00:27:01 On the nuclear concerns, Trump has told senior aides privately in recent weeks that Tehran is likely unable to revive its nuclear work during his presidency after the US destroyed three primary nuclear sites last year. The officials added. And then over the weekend, he seemed to also tone it down more on the aggressive threats against Iran. He said, we are low-keying it, we are only semi-negotiating with them. I don't know what that means, and of course it doesn't mean anything because we're not negotiating
Starting point is 00:27:29 with them at all. We're just watching Iran with his huge inflation and the fact that they're not, they They have no money, he said. Okay, so, boss, a couple of angles here. Number one, it looks like Trump has realized we have no chance of winning this war, right? So he claimed that this was to make sure that they don't have any kind of nuclear weapons program and now he's saying, that don't worry about it, who cares about their nuclear weapons program?
Starting point is 00:27:58 Does that show some sign of desperation or do you think that this is all still a trick? know he's about to put in ground troops and he's lying about all that. I don't know, man. We've been, we've been through this now for the past. I don't know how many. Like Trump say like a horrible statement like we're gonna end civilization and then the market share the the market goes down and then there is some inside of trading. And then he said like, okay, we're good now.
Starting point is 00:28:25 And then there's the market goes up and then there's insider trading. I don't know if we should take Trump seriously about anything he takes. Because I don't trust him. I don't believe him. I don't know what he says next week. He's been making us guess what will be his next move. And we never guess it because he's just like he's going to, he flip flops. He changes.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I don't know if he's in this war for his personal gain. So he and Kushner can just like buy and sell shares on the stock market that goes up and down. Now he's is offering like early access to his tooth media socials for how. hundred thousand dollars in order to get an insider information. So I don't know, man. I really don't know. I don't know if he's going to say this and then by tonight he's going to bomb Iran with everything he's got.
Starting point is 00:29:14 So I really don't know. You have a president that is unpredictable that he has been using this confusion in the world about the war in order for his own personal gains. So I don't know. What do you think? Do you even like take like take anything that he says seriously anymore? Yeah. Yeah, my sense of it, Boston is nuanced and complicated because, so if he's saying to the Wall
Starting point is 00:29:38 Street Journal publicly, in essence, through the leaks, right, that maybe we take nukes off the table. He said that was the reason we're going in. That's a giant concession. That's Trump, whether it's to the markets or anyone else, basically the Trump team saying, we gotta get out of there. And we're gonna even take our number one objective off the table, just get back to the status quote before the war where the Strait of Hormuz is open and let's get the hell out of there,
Starting point is 00:30:06 right? So you don't say that unless either it's a giant trick and you're about the bomb again, which is entirely possible, or you really are worried about getting the hell out of there. And in fact, now Alexander Ward from the Walser Journal reporting, a White House official insisted that the U.S. completed all of its military objectives against Iran. Now, that's absurd. That's not true at all. But I'll take it if they declare. that and then said, okay, we've got to deal with Iran and we're not ending their nuclear program, we're just leaving. I don't care, they never had a nuclear weapons program.
Starting point is 00:30:42 But then a second problem comes up though, just as Trump is conceding on these, Iran puts out a whole new set of demands and they want to, A, permanently end the war, B, lift the naval blockade, see withdrawal all forces, and then cease any military action against Iranian proxies, fully compensate Iran for war damages, lift all sanctions, and release all Iranian frozen funds. Now, if that's true, that's going to make it much harder to get to a deal. Number one, Israel's never going to withdraw from Lebanon or Gaza, so there goes that. We have to cut them out a deal. Of course, we should cut them out of the deal.
Starting point is 00:31:20 We'll never get a deal with those warmongers. If we need permission from them, that's impossible, right? But he's saying, they're saying, hey, compensate us for all the places you bomb. America is very unlikely to do that. Leave the region entirely. That'd be great for America, but we're less likely to do that. So now it looks like Iran doesn't necessarily want to end the war. How devastating is that?
Starting point is 00:31:47 Well, I mean, maybe Trump doesn't want this trade to Fremuz open. Maybe this is all by design in order to destroy the Middle East and make Iran and Saudi Arabia. and the other Arab countries just fight it. I mean, look at the North Stream that was destroyed between Russia and Europe. That led to America supplying Europe with five times the oil that's five times more expensive than the cheap Russian oil and gas.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Remember that? And now maybe they don't care. Maybe they just want to have this bit of the war just like destroy each other. And then America will be the supplier of the oil to the world. I don't know. I think all of these tricks that Trump is playing, maybe he's just like doing it with a different logic than ours. Maybe he doesn't care about the war ends or not. Maybe he doesn't care about the street of Ramos open or not. Because for him, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:46 oil, like he can be the supplier of oil instead of Saudi Arabia. Maybe he doesn't really care about Saudi Arabia. We don't care about UAE. Maybe him and Israel just want them, to just like like you know destroy each other like them and Iran like the same way the Russia and Ukraine is doing. So maybe this is much more evil than we think. And I know that this is not politically sane or anything, but like you know, we've seen the signs on the wall, right? Yeah. No, I actually think that your theory is a very good one, but I think that it's mainly about Israel. And so I'll get to my, you know, nuanced theory in a second about Trump. But when it comes to Israel, yeah, they want us to use their new Leviathan field, which is, and they've said it.
Starting point is 00:33:33 They're like, oh, and they, to your point, it's not just that they want Iran's oil and gas facilities to be destroyed. Israel's very happy if the Gulf countries, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, et cetera, their fields are also destroyed because Netanyahu has said, now you'll have to use Leviathan. Plus, there's a gas field off of Lebanese waters that Israel is now well. claim to because they are saying southern Lebanon is now part of Israel. We've already annexed it basically. And they're looking forward to a pipeline that goes through Israel and would circumvent the Strait of Hormuz. So Israel has plenty of reasons to not only try to get us to destroy Iran, but to destroy
Starting point is 00:34:16 our allies in the Gulf at the same time. So this war is perfect for them. That's why they don't want peace at all. They're like destroy everyone in the Middle East but us. and spend all of your defensive missiles on us. But for our purposes, no, we're beginning to have issues with our petroleum oil reserve. We have issues with our economy and with inflation. So in fact, U.S. emergency oil reserve is now below 300 million barrels for the first time since 1983.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Before the U.S. and Israel launched their attacks on Iran on February 28th, the reserve held approximately 415 million barrels. So we're way down now. And so my theory, Bassem, is that Israel 100% wants this, pushed us into this. And that, yeah, sure, they, you know, the Ailsons alone gave over $300 million dollars to Donald Trump, and that certainly affected him in many of his decisions. And they surround himself with a bunch of, surround Trump with a bunch of warmongers, both in the White House that serve Israel like Marco Rubio and Pete Heggseth and Ratcliff in the intelligence, et cetera, all Israel first. Turns on television, all Israel first. We can go to a clip
Starting point is 00:35:30 on that in it if we want to, but you guys all know it. They're all pushing for war, right? They've surrounded them in a bubble of, oh, you'll be amazing if you declare war. But I think that all of that is still not enough to punch yourself in the face this hard and wind up at a 32% approval rating, even portions of MAGA hating you. He's lost all independence, all young people. He's now losing people without a college education that was his strongest demographic. He's losing white people. He's losing males. He's losing everything. So I don't think Trump is doing that on purpose. I think they have blackmail over him. And every I think every time he goes, come on guys, this is too unreasonable. We're going to destroy
Starting point is 00:36:11 America completely. We're going to destroy our economy. We don't even have defensive missiles left. We're going to lose our ships. You've got to let me out of this headlock. And Netanyahu goes, shut up, servant boy, you want us to release the tapes? And he goes right back to doing whatever they demand. What do you think of that? But other than the blackmail, I mean, America has a history of screwing up its allies. I mean, it wasn't it Henry Kissinger that said to be, it would be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is deadly or fatal.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And I think he said that in a call with Buckley, it's about like how America kind of gave up on its allies in Vietnam. And I think America doesn't really care about its allies, whether it's the Middle East or otherwise. And I think the whole idea about them being, like, they, they, I think that Trump has no problem. Forget about Israel, forget about them being servants for Israelis and blackmail. But I think America just goes out after its own interest, and they don't really care about any of its allies. And actually, I think they get screwed over, over and over many times. seen America screwing Europe many times.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And why would they do that to their allies in the Middle East? Yeah, so Boston, that has a huge asterisk, right? So the idea that America would care about its Arab allies is hilarious. Of course, they don't care. But they don't care about the European allies. Trump is constantly attacking Canada and Greenland and Mexico. But there is one ally that is above the law and above everything, right? How dare you call them an ally?
Starting point is 00:37:50 They are our masters. I mean look guys, if you think what Bassem is saying is over the top or crazy, okay, why do we only listen to one so called ally? We betray every other ally with no compunction at all, but when it comes to Israel, we do every single thing we're ordered, even at great cost to our country. That's mental. And here, last thing here, Bassem, let me show you. Let me show the audience in your clip of what is going on in television. Because if you're watching online news, you might not realize how crazed cable news is, and how they're constantly saying, war, war for Israel, of course.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And they all bow, so watch this. The demands that they made yesterday, none of which we're going to adhere to, to leave the region, to pay reparations for the war. of this stuff is going to happen? The Israelis want to defeat the regime. They want to defeat the enemy because they know that's the only way. We've chosen not to hit key targets that would likely cripple, not just the Iranian economy generally, but create a dire circumstance for the regime itself. That includes most notably Karg Island, as I've been talking about. 85 to 90% of all of Iran's oil transport through Karg Island. It is a wide open target.
Starting point is 00:39:19 President Trump has all the options in his hands. He can take big military action anytime he wants to to shut these guys down. He can do it over a period of days. He can do it in less time than that. He has huge options. He's very much aware of all of that. And we'll see what what takes place. I do believe in my own mind that the only way that Iran will meet our demands is we have to force them. Awesome, huge coincidence, right? Everybody on TV supports Israel's war, and everyone in Congress who got paid by Israel also supports Israel's war. And all of our presidents who all have their number one lifetime donor as the Israeli lobby also support Israel's war. I'm told by mainstream media that that's a giant coincidence.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, they don't seem to be pushed or paid or. I mean, it is just like comical. And it reminds me with the kind of propaganda that I used to see in the Middle East. But they just like have better production value, better lights and better suits. I have to say much more expensive suits. But otherwise, it's the same thing. I imagine these people are getting the phone call from Tel Aviv.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I don't think they even have the phone. calls anymore. I think they're like spineless by nature. And I think they're just, they go in, but it is, it is the how everybody is synchronized, like a little symphony. They go and it's like, and they speak. And I love these videos when they take the same exact word in the same exact sentences. Remember at the beginning of the world, this like famous clip that went around, there's like a short term pain, long term gains. Remember that? Yeah. Remember that? That was like a very, I love that clip. It seems that like they just send every, everybody the script and they forgot to change them for each one so it doesn't look as if it was like a copycat.
Starting point is 00:41:13 But it's it's like how the chorus goes on. And it's interesting how so many Americans still fall for that. You know, how we say that people are changing. I think it's, I think we're just giving people here too much credit. I think there is the vast majority of Americans still don't see. You have 25% of Americans, the evangelical church. that has completely brainwashed them and they are completely controlled from Israel. You have 25% of the public. They look at this from a completely religious point of view and they
Starting point is 00:41:49 don't see it. And they have a lot of people who just is brown people and Arabs and Muslims who are, yeah, I don't care as long as we hit them. So it's just like these people have so many, the Fox News and CNN and all of these people have so much reach and people are listening. listening to them and I don't know, I don't know if that will ever change. Yeah, look, the people that watch TV, they get brainwashed by this stuff and they don't realize that there is an alternate story. They just, they genuinely, they're like, that's the news to them, right? And the news is that Israel is great, all the Arabs and Muslims need to be killed, and Israel
Starting point is 00:42:30 needs to take their land and we need to do it for them. We need to use our entire military and all of our money and our budget. And if we don't, we're all anti-Semites. And so, and if that's what you hear at church and that's what you hear on cable news, and you never heard anything else, you might believe that. But the more people are hearing other factors, the more that they're beginning to open their eyes. And the more they're beginning to realize that these guys on television have been actively
Starting point is 00:42:57 trying to deceive them on behalf of a foreign nation and the anger and the rebellion builds. So yeah. Yeah, all right, we gotta take a quick break here. When we come back, they unleash the hounds on Abdul El-Said. We'll show to you and then we'll push back when we return. All right, let's go to our members on t.t.com. Again, I'm reading these blind. Art guy says, ah, Hebrew, the secret Jewish language, nobody else can possibly translate.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Perfect for telling people how you really feel about stuff. It is funny, you know, it's the modern day, but, and he doesn't have to hide it in Hebrew. He could say it in English to an American cable news anchor. I plan to destroy all of the Palestinians and take all of their land. This is for greater Israel and I'm going to genocide them. And the cable news anchor would come back and report, Israel's acting in self-defense and they are the victim and you owe them, right? So it doesn't, I don't know why he bothers with that charade of saying all the truthful things in Hebrew. But doesn't he already know that American media?
Starting point is 00:44:20 is his servants that work for him completely. So that's why it's a hilarious little thing that they do. You're right. Music Matter says, quote, if elected Kamala will start World War III. That is what Maga said to scare people in the voting for Trump. Fear tactic politics will be the end of our society. We've been hearing this messaging since the Nixon era and our country has been sliding downward ever since.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And by the way, I challenged Stephen Miller, who's literally the person who said that. And he said, we're not going to do it. I said, you're going to go into Iran and you're going to start a disaster. sworn Iran if you win. He said, oh, we would never. And then he did exactly that because this is predictable, guys. Both Biden and Trump work for Israel, not complicated at all. Okay, eclectic rights in. We're honestly getting to the point where the fallout from whatever Compromat Israel has on Trump would do less damage to his approval rating than this war is doing. Yeah, but he doesn't view it that way. And I am out of time. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Yusuf, and I like this comment from Howard Tibbs III, a YouTube member. So happy to be part of TYT, I feel my sanity slowly returning. Okay, happy to have you, brother. Everybody hit that join button, become part of the young Turks, and help spread truth. All right, let's go to the next story. When asked about Hassan Pikers comments on 9-11, Senator Bernie Sanders called it a dumb statement. Do you agree? Do you disavow those comments that America deserve 9-11?
Starting point is 00:46:18 Oh, awesome. I thought they might not ask about Hassan Piker's comments, but luckily she asked two or three times. Let me show you the whole clip and then get your reaction. Watch this. You face scrutiny for campaigning with socialist streamer Hassan Piker, who has made a series of inflammatory comments, as you well know, including saying America deserved 9-11, describing Hamas as a lesser evil than Israel. Do you plan to continue to campaign with Hassan Piker in the general election campaign? Look, I'm less concerned now with who I'm campaigning with, a lot more concerned about who I'm campaigning to. We've got a lot of work to do to continue to build the coalition that's going to be Mike Rogers. Would you welcome him, though? On the campaign trail with you?
Starting point is 00:47:03 Like I said, I'm a lot more focused on who I'm campaigning to. When asked about Hassan Pikers comments on 9-11, Senator Bernie Sanders called it a dumb statement. Do you agree? Do you disavow those comments that America deserve 9-11? Of course. It was a dumb statement. And of course, I think Hassan himself would say that was a dumb statement. He disavowed it. So yes, America didn't deserve 9-11. But, you know, to sit here and play gotcha politics with a dumb thing somebody said out of context that they disavowed themselves to say, oh, well, what does that mean about what you think? I want to be held accountable for what I say and what I do. So Bossam, apparently Hassan Piker is the most relevant political person in the country. Everyone has to be, do you denounce them, bossum? Yeah, of course I denounce it. I would love, I would love, I would love the media to also ask everybody running in any campaign about everybody who they have been associated with.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Because that will open a kind of warmth, right? I mean, let's talk about Kerry like Cory Booker. Like, you know, I mean, the guy is buddies with Rabbi Shmuli. And I'm sure that we can get to take so many things that Rabbi Shmuli said. That's so anti-American and just like straight up like racist and horrible. Why don't they ask, right? I mean, why don't they ask the people who run the campaign who are kind of like they go hand in hand next to most of the most horrible pro-Israeli propagandists? and nobody is asking them about like, what do you think about your friend who's saying this for Israel?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Nobody's saying that. But when it's when it's like a Muslim or an anti-Israeli candidate, suddenly everybody's his circle is like we need him to answer for them, which is quite stupid, right? Which is, I welcome if they do that to the other side, but they never do, right? Yeah. In fact, this morning on Pears Morgan, I asked, why doesn't anybody ask Mike Rogers, Abdul al-Said's opponent, do you denounce Benjamin Netanyahu? Yeah, because Mike Rogers is taking, not just campaigning with the Israeli lobby,
Starting point is 00:49:11 he's taking money from them, hundreds of thousands of dollars, soon to be millions and tens of millions. So and Hassan. At least Hassan Piper didn't pay Abdul-Said millions of dollars. I mean, if he did, I would like to call Hassan because he's my friend and I have him on my phone and I would like him, oh, do you give me a couple million, brother. So Hassan said something. That was wrong and then he immediately took it back like a day or two later. And that was about eight years ago or so.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Nanjahu killed 23,000 children. By the way, Kamala Harris never got asked to denounce Dick Cheney, who got hundreds of thousands of people killed and brought torture back. Hillary Clinton never got asked to denounce Henry Kissinger, who got arguably millions of people killed. So as long as you're getting millions of people killed or torturing people or killing children, And our media is totally fine with it. No problem, you don't have to renounce anyone.
Starting point is 00:50:08 A streamer said something wrong at one point out of tens of thousands of hours of talking, ladies and gentlemen, we got them. And I don't know if Kirsten Welker and the rest of the meet the press crew realize how ridiculously biased they are. And now they seem like they're doing a hatchet job on every outsider candidate and how much They love insiders, but maybe they just don't realize that almost everything they say is a lot. Here I'm gonna give you an example outside of Israel. Watch this interaction on Medicare for All.
Starting point is 00:50:44 You served as a public health official in Michigan. You even co-authored a book making the case for Medicare for all. Senator Bernie Sanders also campaigned on it as a presidential candidate back in 2016. years later, this idea still does not have a majority support in Congress. If you were to win in November, Dr. Al-Sahed, how do you make Medicare for all a reality when so far it has not had enough support? We're watching more people support Medicare for all every day. We're watching more elected officials support Medicare for all every day.
Starting point is 00:51:18 And in a lot of ways, this campaign was a referendum on whether or not we want healthcare here or bomb somewhere else. And I think the Michigan voter chose health care here. Do you see that deceitful trick that Welker did where she made it sound like Medicare for all is unpopular? But if you listen carefully, she said a majority of people in Congress don't agree. Now she knows there's a poll, unless she's ignorant, which is entirely possible, that there's a poll that shows that 65% of Americans want Medicare for all.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Boston, that's two thirds of Americans saying we want this, but when you turn on television, they go, it's unpopular. And are you still in favor of it 10 years later? How dare you support two thirds of Americans? What a radical position. So, I mean, is there anything that television doesn't lie about? They did this from Mamdani. Remember when Mamdani was running and all of these promises about like freezing the rent,
Starting point is 00:52:12 like having public transportation, it couldn't be done. How are you going to get the money? And now he's actually doing really good progress. So the thing is you either are corrupt and nobody is going to ask you about all your corruption or you're going to do something like, you know, that is beneficial for the public. And then they're going to just like poke hole into it. It's like, oh, it's either going to not going to be done. It's not popular.
Starting point is 00:52:32 It's not feasible. And then so, so basically they are, they don't care about the people, you know. The media has proven more, more many, many times time and time again that don't care about the people. And all of these are just like gotcha questions. Because I would really want to see the same woman debate, like debate the other candidates. And. Or if you did this this woman, did she have the other candidate on her show? I would love to see that interview.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Yeah. Because that would be interesting. Yeah. No, as far as I know, Mike Rogers has not gone on. No, no, not Mike. The other, the Haley, the one that was running against. No, no. They all hide.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And so they barely do any interviews. But it doesn't matter. Anytime that she was asked questions, they were all super softball questions. You know that. Like, they never, ever touch the insiders. The insiders that they view them as demigods. And so, and look, Welker, by the way, in the rest of that interview, basically said to Abdul Al-Said exactly what you predicted there, Bassem.
Starting point is 00:53:40 She was like, how are you going to pay for that? That's really, aren't you? Go on, don't you admit you're going to raise taxes? Aren't you going to raise taxes, right? But wait a minute. How come Welker never did that with the Iran war? How come she never did that with money going to Israel? Like the same exact situation, wait, we're spending a lot of money, at least in one case
Starting point is 00:53:57 we get healthcare, and other case we get war, death, and destruction, and nothing for us. But Welker just can't find a way to ask, how are we gonna pay for that? No meet the press host has ever asked about war, how are we going to pay for that? Because they love war, and they're lying about being objective, and they just want to lie to you 24-7 so you don't accidentally vote for the person who's actually going to help you. They would hate that idea. If you vote for a person who's actually means it and has popular positions, Kirsten Welker and the rest of the cable news anchors and the network anchors would be so upset that you didn't vote for the corrupt insiders that they love and adore
Starting point is 00:54:42 and never ask tough questions to. But it's not just the press that's against Abdul. Of course, establishment Democrats are and Trump is. So now we go to the establishment Democrats, of course, represented by Hillary Clinton. Watch this. I know Haley, she was a terrific member of Congress. She was a really effective member of Obama's auto recovery task force. She's a doer. She's a doer, but she's not a modern politician. I mean, she is not somebody who has mastered the art of video and performance online. So that's a healthy dose of copium.
Starting point is 00:55:25 This reminds me of like, oh, those people on TikTok, they don't know anything about politics. They don't know about Palestine. Oh, Mamdan, you won't because he has a good social media team. Abdul, it's kind of like a back, like, like backhanded compliment. It's like, oh yeah, Abdul is good, but because he's got just like good cameras around him. And beyond that, it's saying, oh, no, her pro-Israel positions are wonderful and her pro-war
Starting point is 00:55:49 positions and all of her pro is everything is wonderful. She just was not a good communicator. She would have won with those positions if it wasn't for the fact that, then why did the Israeli donors pick such an idiot to run for them? Because they wanted empty vessel, someone who's a moron and will take orders and not question the orders. But now all of a sudden that's framed as, oh, golly gee, we accidentally picked an empty vessel. But Hillary's not done yet. One more. that we haven't yet seen enough of is that when the progressives the left, whatever we want to call, you know, candidates on that side of the Democratic Party, when they lose, they often don't support the candidate that has been nominated. You know, there was a lot of reluctance to support Kamala Harris. There was a lot of reluctance to support me when I got the nomination. So it can't be a one-way street. You know, if we're going to have a fair election as there was in Michigan and somebody comes out ahead, a little bit ahead, but needs to get a huge percentage of the voters that voted for Haley, they're going to have to be willing to, you know, get into a conversation that brings those people over. So Hillary Clinton is a giant liar.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I'm going to prove that to you in a second and then I want to get Bossum's reaction to this latest talking point. So, but let me show you first, 15% of Clinton voters through their support behind John McCain in 2008. That's interesting. So a lot more Bernie voters voted against Hillary, right? Oh no, while eight years later, only 6% of Bernie Sanders supporters ended up voting for Donald Trump. So in reality, Hillary Clinton's establishment Democratic voters were much more bitter and refused to vote for Barack Obama at a much higher.
Starting point is 00:57:44 rate and here they are again, Bossum. Oh, our side didn't win, the pro-Israel side didn't win. Well, we're gonna take our ball and go home. But are you? Because I don't think they represent any real voters. She's only talking about the corrupt Democratic politicians who work for corporate packs and A-PAC. Were there really any Haley Stevens voters who are like, well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:58:07 Abdul's just not corrupt enough. You know, if he took more money from A-PAC, I would have voted for him. Is that a thing? Oh, man. This is just a $70 million at the APEC spent talking. This is ridiculous. The fact that they want us to tell us, oh, my God, you see that you see that Abdul, that just won, like your guy?
Starting point is 00:58:27 You know, me, he's just going to cost the Democratic Party the seat in Michigan. It's just like, oh, this is going to be your punishment for voting for someone else. This is like the fear tactic, the same way that they say, like, oh, if Mamdani wins, every billionaire will leave New York. Well, they're still staying there. Nobody left. Same thing. Yeah, and so how, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Now, mainstream media, Hillary Clinton, and Donald Trump all agree to the same thing. I was led to believe that they were against each other, but look at the Unip Party uniting the minute there's an outsider candidate who might represent the voters. So here comes Donald Trump, and Abdul had a terrific comeback to Trump's attack on his family. Watch this. Last night he posted on social media a photograph of him and First Lady Melania Trump in formal attire. next to a photograph of you and your wife. You appear to be in a restaurant booth or something. Your wife is a psychiatrist.
Starting point is 00:59:21 She's wearing a hijab. The caption was two very different Americas. What was your response when you saw that? Yeah, he's right. One in which your overlords are two people who don't like each other but joint in the interest of making billions of dollars off of you. Or two people who genuinely love each other enjoyed some pancakes together. want to come together to build the kind of America where they can raise a family and know that
Starting point is 00:59:48 that family is going to have the good thing. So yes, you've got two different visions of America. Donald Trump's vision is the one you're living in right now. Can you afford your gas? Can you afford your groceries? Do you believe when you look your kids in the eye that they're going to have a better future than you did? Bossum, how excited are you that we now got Muslim American candidates just killing it out there in the campaign trail? I mean, he's slicing and dicing them. So that, he's that, he's, I mean, that attack totally backfired with what Abdul said, don't you think? I actually love when he said, like, yes, he's right.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Look at Tapper's face. He said, he did this. Like when he said like, he's right, he's right. He said this. And then, oh, whoa, wow, this guy is cooking. Yeah. And actually, I love his thing when he, the other guy told him, well, Trump tells that you're full of shit. It's like, well, at least I don't let get mine into the office.
Starting point is 01:00:41 That was a master class. I have to say. I love the comebacks. I love the comebacks. I love the comeback. I love the comebacks. Like the people who are like quick on their feet. But Tapper's face. But that guy Tappers, by the way, he's one who kind of like promoted all of the rape hoax in the October 7th. He got in like questionable witnesses who changed their rewards every single. That's not a conversation. But anyway. Yeah. Don't get me started on Jake Tapper. That'll be a whole other hour.
Starting point is 01:01:11 But, you know, Skip, our stage manager just made a good point. One picture is Trump and Melania at a gala among the elites and the billionaires. Another picture is Abdul and his wife at a diner. Okay, which was the real America? Yeah, really. Right. I mean, that to me looks like the real America. That's my existence in terms of diners and what we eat, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Gala. We're talking about a gala. Okay, and he thinks that's the real America. I don't think it is. Okay, so of course, Unip Party, United against Abdullah-Said, but last thing on this is that you'd have to be nuts to vote for Mike Rogers in Michigan because you're basically saying, I want this seat represented by Israel and not by America. Why? Why would you do that? Why would you hand any Senate seat, any political seat in the country to a different nation? And Mike Rogers swears to represent Israel loyally in the Senate. So no Americans should vote for them.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Okay, now that we're clear, I want to squeeze in one more story. It's about- Can I say one more thing about Hassan-Pyker because- No, no, we're gonna do that. Let me do the Hassan story here, so you get to say all you want about it. Okay, go ahead. So here, let's jump into it. You guys are suckers. They're gonna do to you next.
Starting point is 01:02:32 If I had said America deserve 9-11, trust me, people would still be talking about it and demanding that my visa gets ripped up. I'm sorry, dude, but like, if someone's talking about eight-off Hitler that way, you would immediately have alarm bells going off going like, whoa, what? I've said crazy stuff. You know what I've never said, Chank, in my entire life, America deserved Americans over 3,000 dying, burning to death and jumping to their freaking death. And there's no excuse for that. And it's absolutely unconscionable for somebody to say that America deserved 9-11. I was a kid. I remembered what happened on 9-11. He is not sorry.
Starting point is 01:03:09 He said that he's only sorry he got caught. It's his true belief. It's what's in his heart. And there are millions of Americans. Okay, so I'm gonna show you how I responded on air to that in a minute. But Bassem, give me your thoughts in general about this line of attack. Well, I didn't know that Hassan Piker apologized two days later. I didn't know because the media has just like,
Starting point is 01:03:39 pointed so much on what he said and they never talked about him like withdrawing his comments. I mean, if you talk about politics, we have a history of politicians saying horrible stuff and that, okay, sorry guys, I didn't mean it. It didn't go. So why don't they don't extend the same courtesy to Hassan? The guy said, look, okay, guys, I said a dumb thing. I'm sorry. Just, okay, forget about it. And it's been like going on for 10 years. Okay, what do they want to do to him. They want him to what? Kill himself? I mean, I mean, the guy said something dumb, and he apologized. And he said like, I'm sorry. I didn't who's gone. Okay, what else do you want? Yeah. Seriously. So, yeah, he came right on this program, on the young Turks and said, look,
Starting point is 01:04:24 what I really am talking about is that America gets stuck in the quagmire of the Middle East for no reason. And we antagonize the Middle East to help Israel, et cetera. And I said to the panel, look, you guys all actually agree with that position. You just didn't like the way that he said it. And he didn't like the way he said it. So he came out and clarified immediately. But they used as an attack line anyway. And I have more to say about that trick.
Starting point is 01:04:47 But first, let's just show you my response when we were live on Pierce. So these comments matter. It is good that he withdrew them. But the defense. Bull shit. Did they matter? Can I explain. Explain his comments about Mao Cey Tong because they are extremely concerning.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Why isn't anybody asking Mike Rogers, hey, do you denounce Benjamin Netanyahu? You're taking, not only are you campaigning with the Israeli lobby, not only are you associated with the Israeli lobby, you take money from the Israeli lobby. You are legally bribed by the Israeli lobby. So do you denounce the butcher of Jerusalem that has murdered 23,000 children? That is a very legitimate question, but somehow mainstream media can't ask that question. Why didn't they ask Kamala Harris, do you denounce Dick Cheney who brought torture back, who got hundreds of thousands of people killed? Instead, they're like, oh, you're so wonderful for a bear hugging Dick Cheney. Why didn't anybody get asked, don't you denounce Henry Kissinger?
Starting point is 01:05:45 So these are actual murderers who have slaughtered tens or hundreds of thousands of people, but yet mainstream media doesn't do smear by proxy there. They never asked that question. Oh, what did Hassan say? What did Jank say? Well, by the way, what did Tucker Carlson say? What did Marjorie Taylor Green say? Notice that they always do this to outsiders. Bossam, what I warned them about- C-meer by proxy is a great, it's a great expression. Smeer by proxy, love that.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Yeah, thank you brother. So one of the things I was pointing out to them, and actually at one point in the discussion, a lot of them actually agreed, especially Dave Smith, and is that guys, you're falling into a trap here. So they're gonna find something wrong. that Dave Smith said, the Vinnie O'Shanna said, that Lindy Lee said, those are the other people on the panel, and then Bossom said, and I said, and Tucker said, and Tom Massey said. Now, they ignore the things that the warmongers do, the people that they get killed, but they
Starting point is 01:06:50 focus on one thing we might have said or otherwise. And do you think, like, so both in terms of the right-wing outsiders who are trying to cancel Hassan along with mainstream media and some of our guys on the left trying to cancel Tucker Carcelain and Marjorie Taylor Green for other comments they've made are making a mistake by dividing the anti-war movement. Yeah, well, the thing is I, they're focusing on these little things in order to diverse, they kind of distract people on what's important, you know, as you said, like you're talking about actual murders and nobody is talking about like why don't they, uh,
Starting point is 01:07:38 the, this means by proxy what you said, but they're focusing on a streamer, streamer, seriously? I mean, yes, he's an influential streamer. He has, he has weight and everything. But I, that's why I don't like, how can we take any of these people seriously? Yeah. And by the way, if we're criticizing people on, in media for their associations, I mean, they all go and talk to Jake Tapper. And Jake Tapper seems to be told. in favor of Israel's genocide. So how come that's never discussed, right? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Right? The only thing that's ever discussed is if you disagree with Israel, we will dig into your life, try to find something that you said at any point, doesn't matter if you're 13 years old, and it doesn't matter if you're on the left or the right and try to destroy you. And that's how our media works, and that's what they're trying to do the Hassan right now. And his speech at University of Washington just got canceled, and they say, oh, he says history, of saying naughty things. Get the hell out of here, man.
Starting point is 01:08:37 They're trying to take our freedom of speech away just to make sure that the establishment wins. All right. Bossam, you're awesome for joining us today. Thank you so much for having me, guys. I appreciate you. Thank you so much. And everybody, check out Bossum tours all the time.
Starting point is 01:08:53 And make sure you're checking out one of his live shows and check him out on social media. Bossam Yusuf everybody. Thank you. Bye, bye, bye. All right. Guys, we're going to take quick break here. When we come back, we've got more on A-PAC. They have found a new way to support candidates secretly because they realize now that they're toxic,
Starting point is 01:09:17 but we're going to reveal their secrets when we return. If you're Christian, in fact, I will fight for you to have your religious liberty and practice your Christianity. I believe in that. I don't believe in Christianity, which means that you do not get to dictate the way I live in. my life based on your religion. I don't care what the Bible says. You have every right in the world. All those women who identify with your religion have every right in the world to not get an abortion, to not take birth control. But they do not have the right to dictate my life. And what I decide to do with my body. I don't care about your goddamn religion. I'm so tired of having
Starting point is 01:10:03 non-stop conversations about what the Bible says. You live your life in the way that you interpret the Bible. Again, I don't care, but you don't get to take the Bible and tell me, while the Bible says this, in this chapter and this verse, I don't care. I don't care. I don't believe in it. And I have the right, based on our Constitution, to not believe in it. Has been left unscathed. Ain't a whole long left?
Starting point is 01:10:30 I don't know why they need any more bomb. Let us be clear. The United States provided $18 billion in military aid to Israel. Netanyahu indiscriminate bombardment has. have killed more than 50,000 civilians, 60% of whom are women, children, paramedics, and journalists, all of this is against basic human decency. You don't starve children with absolutely no humanitarian aid getting into Gaza. It is a war crime.
Starting point is 01:11:09 It is illegal for the United States government to provide Israel with more. offensive weapons will not will give us. We've been on our phones too much. I feel like we just need to touch grass or something. I told you. I mean, you know what? Let's actually do it. Let's touch the grass. Andrew Yang? It's not racist, right? It's him. Yes, it is I.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Andrew Yang out here giving money away, as usual. Wait, but literally? Do you use a phone? Noble mobile will cut your wireless bill in half every month, and you get paid even more if you log off, look up, and touch grass. Oh, I actually have some grass if you... I don't think that's the kind of grass. Not that kind of grass, unfortunately. Whoa, wait, what the...
Starting point is 01:12:05 Whoa. I guess that kind of grass works, too. All grass works. All grass, and we get cash? Did you see that? Babe. We'll make it rain, make it rain, girl, make it rain, make it rain, make it. That didn't rain so good.
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Starting point is 01:13:49 The doctor's in the house, he makes house calls. So we first, before we get to do anything else, these fun handles just joined us. There are there are human beings behind those handles. One has, I smoke and I know things. Okay, I love that one. The second one might be even better, Mexican domination. Okay, that sounds a little, well, and Patrick Hovey 5867. You guys are amazing.
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Starting point is 01:14:41 They want real change and Peggy Flanagan is about bringing about real change, standing up to the big money interest. There is a reason why the super PACs and the billionaires are flooding Minnesota with all kinds of money, same thing as Michigan. But you still are confident, Flanagan's gonna pull this off? No, I'm not confident. I think it's gonna be a very, very close race. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:02 I think she's being outspent seven to one. And under those circumstances, it's tough anybody to win. So Minnesota's next after Michigan, they are now attacking on. all of the progressive populist candidates in Minnesota, how dare they? And of course, APEC is fumbling a lot of money into the race. Elliot's got the facts on that. Yeah, so following Michigan, the upset in Michigan for A PAC, they have now turned toward the US Senate and House Democratic farmer labor primaries in Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:15:36 So let's start with the Senate race first. For the Senate, you have Representative Angie Craig versus Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan. Oh, and actually we have a better photo of Angie Craig, I think somewhere. There it is, perfect. So Flanagan, who is backed by Senator Sanders, has been very vocal about Israel's actions in Gaza. She called it a genocide and has slammed Craig for voting yes on additional funding to Israel. Craig, again, was the only Minnesota Democrat to send 2,000 pound bombs to Netanyahu, and has had an incredible amount of support from APEC.
Starting point is 01:16:08 They've been her biggest funder throughout her entire political career. My values do not align with APEC. I'm not taking their money and I think that this matters when it comes to how we engage in foreign policy. That said, it is not just A PAC. It's other billionaire funded super PACs who spent record amounts of money to make sure Craig wins. And that's why Bernie has been advocating hard for Flanagan recently. Peggy Flanagan understands that we have a corrupt campaign finance system. and she knows that very well
Starting point is 01:16:41 because she is experiencing it right now. Billionaires and their super PACs are spending a record amount of money against her in this election, somewhere around $20 million in the state of Minnesota. And if you can believe it, Peggy is being outspent seven to one
Starting point is 01:17:04 in outside, from outside spending. You know, What Peggy believes and what I believe, we believe in democracy. You got an opinion, it's different than house. Fine, go out. Let's argue. You want to run against me? You want to run against Peggy? Fine. That's called democracy. But we cannot continue a broken and corrupt campaign finance system that allows billion ass to buy elections. That's something very high on Peggy's agenda. And you're not going to believe the same thing is happening in the House race as well.
Starting point is 01:17:36 But that one is a little bit more complex. So to make sure. Angie Craig's open seat in Minnesota's second congressional district gets filled with another pro-Israel candidate. Four super PACs, all with ties to A-PAC and the Democratic majority for Israel, or DMFI, have poured a decent chunk of change into that race as well. So according to our friends Julian Andrione and Ryan Grimm over at Dropsite, in the three-way race, one candidate, Matt Klein, is unapologetically supportive of Israel, while two others, Matt Little and Caleb Berg, have been critics to varying degrees. Little, however, has the support of the group a new policy, which was founded to support pro-Palestinian candidates and lobby Congress against Israeli interests.
Starting point is 01:18:16 They also add another PAC called American Priorities, which was organized to be a counterweight to A-PAC. That has jumped into the race to support Little with a spend of about $60,000, so that's a decent backing for a progressive candidate to win. But Klein didn't have much support at the beginning. Little released an internal survey conducted between May 18th and 20th, which found him well ahead, taking 41% of the vote, with Berg and Klein far behind in a statistical tie for second, with Berg at 13% and Klein at 11%. So because this is a three-way race, the Israeli lobby has had to get a little bit more creative. So given the numbers, the path to victory for Klein was clear.
Starting point is 01:18:56 He needed little to be brought down by boosting Berg, splitting the vote between the two progressives, and needed big money to get himself past both of them. On May 1st, APAC Super PAC had transferred $350,000 to EDW Action Fund, followed by $100,000 on May 10th and another $400,000 on May 20th. EDW did not respond for requests for clarification on why the money was moved and where it was ultimately spent. So according to drop site, EDW, which stands for the elect Democratic Women Action Fund, spent $3,000. $395,000 on Berg between June 26th and August 3rd. The other funds from APAC were sent were then sent to Berg through a hybrid pack called pro-choice majority action. Hope you're keeping up.
Starting point is 01:19:40 There's going to be a quiz later. DMFI also transferred $500,000 to women vote, which is an independent expenditure arm of Emily's list and also linked to APAC. Nevertheless, the total dollars spent on Berg's behalf by PACs that have been used as pro-Israel pass-throughs at some point, including women vote, amounts to $979,000 since June 11th. Now, the fact that PACs linked to APAC are spending to boost Berg doesn't mean Berg herself is aware of the links, and it doesn't mean pro-Israel donors affirmatively want Berg to win. DMFI, when reached for comment, rejected any involvement with women's vote support for Berg's campaign. But of course, obviously Klein is their choice. Klein, for his part, has also seen a flood of supportive outside spending.
Starting point is 01:20:23 314 Action Fund is a super PAC, which backs candidate who are involved in science or medicine, but has sometimes acted in the past as an APAC pass-through. FEC records show that the Super PACs spent $1.2 million in independent expenditures back inclined in four installments between July 20th and July 30th. On August 5th, 314 Action dropped another $1.2 million into the race. The state senator has also received an additional $138,000 from 57 individual donors who have also given to APAC, UDP, or DMFI. All of the individual donations were given on the same.
Starting point is 01:20:58 day, June 28th, many divided in various increments, amounting to the maximum 3,500 individual contribution each. So these aren't as big of numbers as we saw in Michigan, but it does still show both the influence of the Israeli lobby, as well as other billionaires and the kind of influence they have on our elections, which in case you've forgotten, are supposed to actually be up to us. Current polls show Angie Craig leading Peggy Flanagan, 42% to 40%. And again, the most recent polling for CD2 from June shows little at 26% and Klein at 19%. But of course, we'll have to see how all of this plays out tomorrow. Jake, thoughts on all of this. Yeah, so first off, there's two different things here that we've been talking about for a while. One is how they
Starting point is 01:21:45 funnel money through different groups while they pretend that they're doing something else, right? So we told you now for about 10 years, Emily's List is a group that has opposed progressives and primaries almost more than anyone else. That's a weird thing. Progressives are in favor of women's rights at least as much as establishment Democrats likely more. So why would they be opposed to us? It doesn't make any sense, except it's establishment figures that are funneling money
Starting point is 01:22:16 through that. And that way, and why pick Emily's list? Why pick these women's rights groups? So we told you about another group they were using last week. They called Chicago women, but it's actually Israel. That has nothing to do with Chicago women. Why this pro-choice majority in democratic women groups? Because when you criticize, they get to say sexist, wait, but it's not for women's rights.
Starting point is 01:22:39 And in fact, you're spending it against a woman in one of the races, right? And they're like, yeah, shut up, okay? You're an anti-Semite sexist. Well, it's not working anymore. And we see the money. We see the 500,000 going to one group, and then you funnel it over to the group that sounds benign, sounds like they're for women, and then they spend it on the candidate you like, right? So it's now becoming clearer and clearer, and because of outlets like DropSight News doing great,
Starting point is 01:23:05 reporting on it, sludge, lever, right here at TYT, we do the best we can, and so people are now realizing, oh, this is totally fraudulent. And how long have they been doing this for a long, long time? They're doing it more these days because A-PAC is so toxic, the Israeli lobby is so toxic, they have to funnel it through Americans for puppies and unicorns, right? And then go, you're a unicornist. How dare you, you puppyist or anti-puppieist? Okay, so now the second thing is how they pick two people in a race.
Starting point is 01:23:41 And so I want to explain that to you guys. So some races, they pick two people because they want to knock a third person out. A great example was like California 11. Shoycott Chukhrabarti was the real populist progressive in that race, co-founder of just Democrats, and had a firmly anti-Israel position. Then you have Scott Wiener who formerly had a very pro-Israel position, but since that's Nancy Pelosi's old scene in San Francisco, in the middle of the campaign, in the middle of one of the debates, he changed this position and was like, no, I am slightly opposed
Starting point is 01:24:15 to Israel's non-genocide, right? So that's the one they want to win. He's already pushed laws saying you shouldn't, you know, we should change the history books for the kids and teach them a pro-Israel point of view and we should fire university administrators who are tolerate any student criticizing Israel. So they want Scott to one. But they use the same exact trick to funnel about half a million, same number to Connie Chan who was in the race.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Connie seems like she's not necessarily for Israel and she has kind of a middle ground approach. So why are they getting her money when they want Scott to win? Because they need to knock shortcut out. By the way, the biggest assist they got it from that, heartbreakingly was AOC. AOC refused to endorse shortcut. They ran ads against shortcut. By the way, maybe with Israeli money, okay, saying AOC won't endorse them. And he dropped from nearly first to third and they knocked him out of the race.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Now you have two people who are going to support Israel in one of the most liberal progressive districts in the whole country. So that was really well played. And then sometimes they do it like they did in Michigan. You have two stalking horses. You've got Haley Stevens and McMorrow. McMorrow claims not to take money from APEC but wrote a policy paper for APEC saying how Israel was right about everything, right?
Starting point is 01:25:37 So McMorro is the one pretending not to be for Israel. Connie Chan is pretending. And in this case in that congressional race, Berg is the one pretending not necessarily to be in favor of Israel, but getting the money funneled to her. And then they see who's gonna do better, Kleinerberg, Kleinerberg, Stevens or McMorro, and whoever has the lead, they make the other person drop out, put all their money behind the first guy and try to knock out the person criticizing Israel. So all of those tricks are wrapped up in a beautiful little boat in Minnesota for you for
Starting point is 01:26:08 tomorrow. Don't fall for any of them. Obviously, if you want American sovereignty, vote for little in the congressional campaign and Flanagan in the Senate race. Yeah, you know, what I appreciate, too, about this story is I'm old enough to remember in my younger days when I saw this Bernie Sanders guy talking about all the money in politics, and I remember listening to that as a young person and being like, yeah, whatever, what's the big deal, who cares?
Starting point is 01:26:32 Because I didn't understand anything. And this is a great example of why all this stuff does matter, because it shows exactly how endemic money is in politics, right? now and when you have 12,000 lobbyists in Washington, that means that for every democratically elected official whose job is ostensibly to act on behalf of their constituents, there's dozens of people in their ears telling them, hey, we go this way, why don't you go this way, want to do this, actually if you can just help us out and then don't even worry about we're gonna funnel this money through
Starting point is 01:26:57 various names until there's absolutely no paper trail. This is a great example and I think it shows it should upset people and it also is a reminder that yeah, Bernie Sanders was right about everything we talked about. Yeah, absolutely. We got more on how Bernie was right a little bit later show on other topics as well. But we appreciate anyone who's revealing these tricks and how it's being played and fighting back against it. And Bernie's been a stalwart. He's been our foundation from day one in fighting back against us.
Starting point is 01:27:28 That's why we love him for it. And we need as many voices on our side speaking out in favor of these good candidates as humanly possible. They have all the rest of media and they have all the money in the world. So we're getting out to spend at a minimum 7 to 1, 12 to 1 in Michigan, and the list goes on. So as we're gonna talk about later in the show, when folks like AOC don't endorse these candidates, it's taking the oxygen out of the room. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Rush in and endorse, I don't care if they don't agree with you perfectly. A lot of these candidates have like wild, some of these candidates, not a lot of them, have wild positions on agreeing with DSA on abolishing prisons or whatever, but they're not gonna do that. Literally no one in Congress agrees with that and they're not focusing on it, they're not prioritizing. It's like number 1,000 on their list. Mainstream media plucks that out as a trick and goes, that's what they're gonna do,
Starting point is 01:28:21 they're gonna abolish prisons and release all the prisons. No, they're not, okay? And why did they get to be so popular? Not because of those positions, but because of their enormously popular positions like, end the wars, get money out of politics, universal health care, so don't fall for any of those tricks and no, and by the way, you know me, I'm the guy who fought against all that stuff on the left, abolishing prisons and defunding the police. And I took a ton of flack for it. But that doesn't mean I or anyone else or James Carville or Hillary Clinton or all of major media
Starting point is 01:28:57 get to kick anyone out of the party. Oh, I don't like one of your positions and you're kicked out. In fact, one of the positions I took back then was, sorry, but you don't get to kick us out of the party, right? If you're like far left and you think we should abolish the Senate and, and, you know, and do these positions that are not popular, I'm not kicking you out of the party. I'm not saying you can't be on the left. I'm just saying let everybody have their own opinion. And then when we find candidates we like, and the most important quality is not their 1,000th priority and is not even some of the pretty talk that establishment Democrats do? No, do they mean it? Do they, is the core of what they're saying something that they're actually going to deliver?
Starting point is 01:29:42 Are they going to fight like hell to get universal health care? Are they going to fight like hell to get money out of politics and end the wars? Or are they going to go into Congress and like the establishment Democrats do, just go, wang, wing, wing. I'm not going to do any of that. But I want your vote. You need to vote for me. It's all your fault if you don't vote for me two or three times, right? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:30:04 It's their fault. Let's go find the right candidates and win on these. And good news, Zelley, it is, we're winning. And that's why they're so bothered by this and spending so much money. It's beautiful. Exactly, beautiful. All right, we're going to take a quick break here. When we come back, I do have some critique of AOC.
Starting point is 01:30:22 She was on the Sunday talk shows on this week. There were some things she said right. But overall, we'll do that when we return. Some cruel person starts a rumor. Internet's overrated. They drew first blood, not me. All right, let's go to members on TOT.com. Archie says, given that Trump will do literally anything to avoid looking like a loser,
Starting point is 01:31:00 and Bibi won't let him make a peace deal. This puts the ground invasion of Iran on the cards as his only way out. Well, that's definitely where they're driving. Even the articles where they're like, we're running low on interceptor missiles, have four or five references to the other idea is ground troops. People are talking about ground troops. It could be ground troops. So that's watch out.
Starting point is 01:31:20 That's probably next. The Blue Wolf says, is Bossa married dating? Just curious. Oh, yeah. Okay, I don't know. That's a good question. I'll ask him next time and let you know. Eclecting miscellaneous says,
Starting point is 01:31:33 and meanwhile, the Democratic establishment is spending all their time and money attacking progressives instead of going after Trump for continuing this insane war that Americans do not want. Yes, that's a great point. Have establishment Democrats spent more time in media attacking fellow Democrats or attacking the war? I think it's not close. It's attacking fellow Democrats. So that is very telling. Great point. Boomer Dragon Cats is currently slapping myself forever believing in corporate politicians. Don't do it, Kat. We all believe because we all got brainwashed by television. We didn't know. We didn't have other sorts of news. New York Times, they were all lying to us about how moderate
Starting point is 01:32:14 they are and how lovely they are. Anyway, don't shoot on the goalkeeper, says, Hillary, you couldn't even be bothered to show up in Michigan during your campaign. Keep your nose out of our elections. Great point. Pedro says, what the hell does Congress do besides fundraise with their time? This fact alone ought to reverse Citizens United. I guess fairness and common sense is too high a hurdle for our Supreme Court.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Oh, definitely, and they do nothing else. We'll be back. Some cool person starts a rumor. Internet is overrated. They drew first blood, not me. I'm back on TYD, Jank and Elliot with you guys. Now let me tell you about Chili Pad 2.0. I mean, are you going to sleep better?
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Starting point is 01:33:57 That's why that's www. That's S-L-E-E-P-M-E-S-T-Y-T, free shipping, free returns, and a 30-night trial so you can test it out, dream big, and wake up better. So there's no downsides to it, and it might improve your sleep by a lot. So why not do it? Give it a shot. All right. Elliot, no, we're going to this story. I'm sure you saw the poll in New Hampshire that had you as the leading candidate, leading choice for Democrats.
Starting point is 01:34:28 First, are you going to run for president? I mean, I'm focused on winning the midterms. I'm running for Congress right now. I mean, do you see this as something, I mean, you said you're open to it. Is it a realistic possibility for me? I haven't, well, I haven't ruled out the possibility, and I'm very humbled to the tremendous amount of support out there. I think that we have a responsibility to remain focused on the midterms and not on our individual aspirations or plans. And running for Senate against Chuck Schumer, is that also something that's possible?
Starting point is 01:35:06 I mean, I think that anything is possible at this juncture. God, that first, like, laugh was so awkward and fake. Oh, it was painful. I don't know why they aren't just honest and go, yeah, bro, of course I'm thinking about it. I'm number one in that poll. I'd be nuts not to think about it. And am I thinking of taking Schumer's seat? God, I'd love to take Schumer's seat.
Starting point is 01:35:29 Just give me an honest answer. We'd love it if you did. Now, Elliot, there was some good answers in what AOC said. I'll touch on that too. But unfortunately, there was something that I didn't love. Yeah, and others didn't love either. So let's give everybody the full context. Yeah, this is not a fun one.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Cause also in that same interview, AOC did seem to signal a pretty big shift from her 2018 priorities. So let's watch her address some of the comments. comments made by Francesca Hong back in the day, the Democratic Socialist candidate for governor in Wisconsin. What do you make of those controversial statements? I'm sure you've seen. I mean, she's, you know, the Thanksgiving dust up. She says she doesn't, you know, still believe that, but, you know, the abolished prisons, abolished police, which is also positions that have been taken by a lot of the progressive candidates who have won. I have a local city councilman that has this saying woke one was crazy.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Yeah, so that's earned AOC some pretty mixed reactions. Glenn Greenwald, a friend of the show, was definitely not a fan. He said this new tactic of AOC and her allies to giggle away their past crazy ideas should not be tolerated. Quote, woke wasn't just some harmless zanee moment. It was a sinister movement that destroyed careers and reputations for the smallest thought crimes. It needs a reckoning. And then there was Ryan Grimm, also a friend of the show, and he was a little more forgiving. He said, obviously, a reckoning with what happened would be
Starting point is 01:37:02 preferable, but that feels unrealistic. More achievable is what AOC is trying to do here, laugh at how crazy it was, and move to talking about the economy. But AOC continued and stated that COVID was the reason why Woke 1 happened. That what's important is that we have to assess what- Was it, I mean, did the movement go too far with some of those positions? I mean, you briefly supported the idea of defunding the police. Well, you know, I think that during this time and during, especially during COVID, there was a huge opening of the overtime window. We were shut down.
Starting point is 01:37:39 There was some of the highest unemployment rates that we have seen because of those shutdowns. And I think that the doors were really, really open in trying to entertain any and every policy that was going to get us to a better place. And I actually think that the discussions that were had in that time were quite fruitful. And AOC also addressed the criticism that she's been a little too precious with her endorsements. A fellow progressive wrote recently the headline in The Hill was, today's cautious AOC would not have endorsed the AOC of 2018, because you were obviously running against an incumbent. I mean, that's probably correct, right?
Starting point is 01:38:26 What's your thinking there? You know, I wasn't endorsed by anybody when I was running. Your friends. Yeah, just some friends. So I wasn't endorsed by, I don't think I was endorsed by a single elected official when I was running for office. Okay, a lot to unpack. there before we continue on.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Jank, any thoughts here? Yeah, lots of thoughts. So we've got a little bit more of what she said that we'll share with you in a second. But first, just to address that last point, that's not true. You were endorsed by a lot of people. I guess we are not relevant anymore. Yeah, none of the elected officials, but just Democrats not only endorsed you, but help you run your campaign.
Starting point is 01:39:13 The same guy who you refused to endorse, shortcut, Sharkar Barty, was the founder of just Democrats that moved to be your campaign manager and helped you win, and you wouldn't endorse him. But he definitely endorsed you. And he, it was instrumental in helping you win. DSA endorsed her. I forget of working families that I think they did. And I think that they were helpful on the ground.
Starting point is 01:39:36 So now that's a range of people. And so I don't necessarily agree with DSA, but was I happy that DSA endorsed her and helped her? Of course I was, right? I sound like I, even though I don't agree with the essay, I sound like I'm more appreciative of them than she is. So like don't phrase it like no one endorsed you. The progressives on the ground and in the, and on the airwaves try to help you so many ways. And she's now cut off all of those people who helped her. And she's got this thing that she's obsessed with.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Like, I did it all on my own. I distinctly remember. I mean, you guys remember, you saw it on the young Turks. We covered her 34 times before she won her primary. So it's not about our egos, who cares, but don't diminish the movement that helped to get you in that position, right? So more on that in a minute. But back to the earlier statements, look, to be fair, the first five minutes of the interview, I thought her answers were pretty good. And she talked about, yeah, the economy and the things that make progressives popular and how, hey, look, when a progressive wins, we should unite around them.
Starting point is 01:40:45 Right, from the, in the left of the party, the right of the party, the center of the party. And so, so great stuff on that. And so I want you to know that as well. So, but when she says woke one was crazy, well, okay, we gotta have a conversation about that because she was proudly woke before whatever the hell that means, but it's, she was certainly in that category. There's no one can dispute that, right? And so I kind of agree with both Glenn and Ryan.
Starting point is 01:41:15 And I think Glenn's being a little too harsh, right? I lean a little bit more in Ryan Grimm's direction. But as Ryan said, but then we have to have a reckoning. So we, young Turks was very clearly on one side of that. We said, look, we think defund the police is not productive. We think it's a bad slogan. We think that and no one covered police abuse more than we did. That's just the empirical fact.
Starting point is 01:41:41 And we were enraged by it. But we didn't think the right answer was framing it so like there'd be no. police and they and every time the people who chose that slogan and defended that slogan said it doesn't mean no police then why did you call it defund the police and so we're asking you to do reasonable things that don't make us unpopular if you say if you mean reform the police say reform the police if you mean end the policing then say end the policing or defund the police like so when I say defund Israel I don't mean hey let's slightly reform our relationship with
Starting point is 01:42:14 I mean no not another dollar to Israel. So that's a clear statement, right? So let's be clear about what we mean. And then we got a lot of push back on that. And on abolishing prisons, we had these huge long debates. And so my question along those lines is, there's actually a couple of questions, Elliot. Number one, are we all clear that that side of the debate was wrong and that abolishing prisons and defunding the police are very unpopular? and we shouldn't go in that direction?
Starting point is 01:42:46 Or are people still defending that? And then that leads to question number two, if people are still defending that, and this is a genuine question, are they livid with AOC today for throwing them under the bus? Right. Or are they now in the position of, well, AOC's our demigod, so if she's changed all of our positions on that, we overnight have also switched our positions. Hopefully, yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:43:10 I don't know the answer to that. I mean, I'm more in the DSA camp, and there is a criticism that is prevalent throughout the DSA and people to the left of the DSA, which is a constant worry that social Democrats will capitulate to this sort of milk toast liberal policies whenever they gain power. So I don't think that this interview did any favors for AOC with that subset of people. And definitely as someone who tries to remember the politicians are tools that you don't need to have like an emotional investment, you don't have to have this sort of cult of personality thing. They are useful insofar as they get the job done.
Starting point is 01:43:48 My best case scenario here, and this is maybe cope, but at least my hope, is that AOC is actually kind of doing like an inverted version of establishment Democrats where rather than banging her fist down or like taking a photo holding a baseball bat and trying to act up and then doing absolutely nothing, she is doing this sort of more tempered down rhetoric to try to appeal to everyday voters, but would still govern according to those original principles. Now, as for some of those other ideas from the DSA, I think, yeah, a lot of that goes down to rhetoric and it's bad marketing. I think there's perfectly valid reasons. It's definitely not what you lead with, though, but we live in an age right now with the internet where people
Starting point is 01:44:29 are going to dig that up, and it seems like it's forever, and it's going to be taken at face value. So we'll see what I agree, like you were saying, with both Glenn Greenwald, too, and Ryan grim there. I also think it's important to remember the historical context of that time. with the Me Too movement, with COVID, with George Floyd. A lot of people were becoming aware of a lot of systemic issues that they weren't previously. And that led to a lot of anger. And that anger, I think, got directed really incorrectly. But I do not understand what's going on with AOC in a lot of this interview.
Starting point is 01:44:55 She kept talking even after that last clip. But she also never really addressed the substance of the question. But like in New York, you had the candidates that were endorsed by Mayor Mamdani, two of whom were challenging sitting members of Congress. powerful members of Congress, Democrats. And you decided to sit that one out. Is that part of wanting to work with your colleagues that are in the House? I mean, what's the...
Starting point is 01:45:20 Yeah, you know, I think we're all in different, you know, politics is also a workplace. Yeah. And we're all in different positions to that. I endorsed, for example, in New York on the state level, I endorsed a slate of challengers to incumbents in the assembly. In the assembly and in the Senate. and I don't work in state government, which gives me a greater freedom to be able to do that and to assess it. And I'm very grateful, you know, that we now have a progressive movement that doesn't, that that is in large enough numbers that, you know, it used to be that you could fit five people in a closet. And that was that was that was the caucus.
Starting point is 01:46:00 And now we've grown into quite a successful movement. All right. And final clip. Hold on. Before we go to that. I want to stay on that, Elliot. So, okay, so now the movement's strong enough that you don't need me endorsing you. Yeah, I know. Okay, but wait, how would it make the movement weaker for you to endorse? So basically she's saying, hey, you're on your own, I'm not gonna help you.
Starting point is 01:46:25 And part of the point of forming just Democrats was so that people would get inside the gates and open the doors and put down ladders so that others can climb up, not pull up the ladders. So yeah, this AOC would have never endorsed the AOC that ran against Crowley. That's a stone cold fact. And she just told you, she says, well, I mean, Congress is also a workplace. So that means I have to be nice to my coworkers, but your coworkers are establishment pricks. There are enemies who are preventing Medicare for all, who are preventing even things like paid family leave that's sitting at 84%.
Starting point is 01:47:02 They're preventing higher minimum wage, getting money out of politics. They're preventing us from extracting ourselves from the wars and from Israel. I don't give a goddamn that they're your co-workers. That's not the relevant part. But she's telling you right there, no question. She's saying, yeah, I care more about them than I do about helping progressives who are running in these primaries. I'm going to be loyal to them. And she said, look, I could endorse in the state assembly races.
Starting point is 01:47:32 There is where I have, quote, greater freedom. But who's taking your freedom away? Bernie's in the Senate and Bernie's endorsing everybody in their mother. Rokane is in the House. He's endorsing everybody in their mother. Who's taking your freedom away? Nobody is. No, you're choosing to work with Hakeem Jeffries and the Democratic leadership.
Starting point is 01:47:52 Don't blame it on lack of freedom. And if it's true, then I don't want to vote for someone who's saying, yeah, I'm handcuffed. Vote for me. I'm handcuffed to the Democratic establishment and my colleagues and coworkers. So I told you she cared too much about her colleagues in there. She basically admitted it, right? And then Elliot, to the earlier point, what was that excuse about, oh, I was woke before because it was COVID?
Starting point is 01:48:16 I have no idea with that. What was that? Like is that a thing? Like you were allowed to say things you don't mean during COVID or we all got crazed during COVID? So why does it have to do with COVID? The timeline doesn't add up either. Woke began before COVID.
Starting point is 01:48:30 Yeah, and you wanted to defund the police because of COVID? And so wait, just help me understand that. Like, are you saying now that you were like, because she used the word crazy. Elliot, I know with absolute certainty, if I said woke one was crazy, I'd have at least half a dozen left wing hosts take my head off, right? Crazy. What do you mean crazy? How dare you say it was crazy? We did perfect.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Yeah, and here's AOC saying, yeah, we were all crazy because during COVID we lost our minds and woke was totally wrong. Wow, I mean, how is that not stunning? I agree that we all lost our minds due to COVID, but again, woke predates COVID. And yeah, I mean, we had a more socially divisive time during there. There's a lot of confusion going around and there was a lot of interest and people making really big sweeping changes. But we have one more clip here where AOC kind of addresses this concern that's especially coming from the left regarding whether or not she's the same candidate that she was when she first ran for Congress. You've changed as well, right? How have you changed since you came in as this insurgent rebel and odds with the Democratic leadership?
Starting point is 01:49:39 How have you changed? You know, I think life has a way of really weathering you and adding to your context and your experience. It humbles you, but it also emboldens you in a lot of ways. And I think it has been the greatest privilege of my life to be able to represent the work. people of my congressional district. And I think some of the ways that it's changed me has been to be able to come in with so many aspirations for our country and then to have the remarkable opportunity to be in the arena and try to make the country a better place, challenges and all. And I love that it's hard. I love that I have to. I have to.
Starting point is 01:50:32 And I get to engage with people from all across the country, elected officials from all across the country to try to actually fulfill our dreams to guarantee health care to every American. There you have it. That sounds to me definitely like a politician. It is a little disappointing. I hope this worry is just overblown. There's a little part of me it's like, do we have egg on our face here? Is this another example of a politician just falling in line the moment they get a little power? Cenk, what are your thoughts? What was that? I don't know. That was a word salad and a half. That sounded like Kamala Harris. So, okay, it's funny because I literally got asked the same question before I saw that full clip
Starting point is 01:51:15 earlier today, okay? I was on Dan Labatard show, check that out when you get a chance. And he asked me, hey, Chink, you used to be a Republican, and then you changed, and what made you change? It's a great question, right? And it's a perfectly legitimate question. And we talked it over about how I changed issue by issue, realizing one by one, literally waking up in a sense being woke, right?
Starting point is 01:51:39 Oh, it turns out I thought the Republicans wanted to balance budgets because that's what the media kept telling me, but they never balanced budgets. I thought they said they were for peace through strength, but we never got the peace. All we got was war, right? And I went through and explained all the different things that made me realize, oh, these guys are full of crap. And so you could see the timeline because it's organic, it's real, it's natural, that's That's what happened in my life.
Starting point is 01:52:01 When he asked that question, she went to, it, it wet, time weather's you, it humbles you, okay, I don't know what that means or is how that's relevant to any of this. And then you come in with aspirations, but it turns out it's a challenge, okay, and then I love that it's hard, I don't know why we love that it's hard, I'd rather be easy, okay? And then we get to, that's why we're working with colleagues to make it better, but are we, Establishment colleagues have helped make it better. Did we negotiate drug prices? Did we get anything passed?
Starting point is 01:52:37 How did how did the humbling and the weathering lead to working with the colleagues that led to the bills we won? None of that happened. And in the midst of that word jumble, how did she change? She went from, let's go, we're a rebel and we're in the middle of a political revolution. Let's go take out the incumbents like Crowley, let's get in progressives and populace and knock down the doors and get all these things we want to. My colleagues are my coworkers and I love working with them and accomplishing nothing. Well, that's a giant change.
Starting point is 01:53:14 Sorry, so you could say accomplishing some things. To be fair, she got a little piece of the Green New Deal inside of one of the bills. And look, that's a significant accomplishment. By the way, if you say that, I can live with that better if she's like, hey look, we didn't get anywhere near what we wanted, but at least I got that portion in. Yeah, I got taken out later by drum, but we were trying to do some. Give me a real answer. Don't give me words salads that don't mean anything.
Starting point is 01:53:41 And guys, why do I tell you this? Because I want you to, oh my God, you shouldn't like AOC or not. No, no, no, no, no. Look, I'm not in the James Carvel camp, right? So I disagree with people who want abolish prisons. I don't want to drive them out of the party. I want to have them stay here because we're all going to work on Medicare for all together. We're gonna work on ending the endless wars together.
Starting point is 01:54:01 By the way, also when somebody from the right comes and says, hey, let's end the wars, Marjorie Taylor Green, Joe Kent, et cetera, other people say don't work with them. No, on ending the wars, I will work with them. We've got to get united, otherwise we won't be able to, so I'm not trying to push AOC out. I'm not saying boo AOC. I'm just saying that if we go towards a presidential election and you have to choose, be careful in how we choose. Because if we choose someone like Obama who was amazing at giving speeches, and then he gets in and goes, oh, no, no, I didn't mean systemic change.
Starting point is 01:54:37 I meant a tiny amount of change. We won't be able to survive it. No, we need someone who's going to actually go for big change, systemic change, and mean it. Yeah, I also went from Republican through libertarian and Democrat. It's the same thing. I can point two times that punctuated that kind of development rather than what AOC's doing there, which honestly, and I don't mean this as a compliment, kind of reminded me of Kamala when she was on the presidential campaign, and when she would do these interviews where you just kind of laugh things off and you're trying to come off charming,
Starting point is 01:55:08 but maybe it doesn't really land. My hope is that maybe AOC has a meeting where they talk about this strategy moving forward, because again, I think she's great otherwise. I hope this is a one-off. Yeah. All right, so you know what? We're have a little bit of issue with time. So let's just skip the next break and go to the next story.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Okay, so let's watch this guys. Do you ever feel like there's some watch? That's the panic behind a new fear sweeping across America. People are freaked out about surveillance from our employers, our nanny cams, and our phones watching our every move. And right now, this anxiety is being taken out with electric saws in hands of spray paint on tools used by law enforcement to keep us all safe. The target locked safety cameras.
Starting point is 01:55:50 So both the left wing and the right wing are pissed off about flock cameras because this big brother looking at us 24 7 and watching and judging and judging and trying to find anything that you did wrong. Besides which there is an angle here where foreign government might want to watch in as well. So who steps in but free press the publication led by Barry Weiss who is very pro surveillance, very pro-Israel saying flock cameras are great, you guys shouldn't worry about it. Ellie, tell us all about it. Yeah, great stuff.
Starting point is 01:56:25 And here's more. In Upstate New York, someone cut down to flock safety camera with an electric saw. In Oakland, California, another was covered in kaint. And in Idaho, someone rammed one with their truck. And in good old Florida, a man just sits in his lawn chair with a cardboard held up for the left. Since January, roughly 23 cities have handled their contracts or shut off their block camera over fourth amended. There's even an open source intelligence website. deep flock that's finding these cameras so people know exactly where to vandalize them.
Starting point is 01:56:54 They're supposed to actually under attack. In 2025 alone the system helped lowly 10,000 missing labels. About 27 people a day or about one every hour. Over 40% of agencies that flocked help recover over half of the stolen vehicles in their jurisdiction. An Indiana, an infant abducted at a shopping center was found in under two hours. In Ohio, a missing girl was located in under 30 minutes. And this is the tool that people are treating like the enemy. It is fair to have concerns by how companies use and track our data, but that's not what these cameras are for. To be blunt, they're not interested in you unless you're a kidnapper, a thief, or someone who intends to do harm. Okay, well, I guess there you have it. Flock cameras are actually really cool,
Starting point is 01:57:36 even though both Democrats and Republicans seem to think otherwise. Chank, initial thought before we get into more of it. Yeah, she's like, it's only here to help you. We've caught a couple of criminals with it, is it? Because we've got more here, but I really really want to get to the Larry Ellison clip. Okay, so Larry Ellison is the guy who founded Oracle. He's David Ellison's father and he financed all of David Ellison's media purchases. One of them was a free press, another one was CBS, and now they're trying to purchase CNN and Warner Brothers.
Starting point is 01:58:11 And Larry Ellison was quite candid about how they're going to surveil you at every turn. Let's watch that. Securing schools. We think we can absolutely lock down schools so that dramatically reduce the case of anyone being on campus that doesn't belong on campus and immediately alert second someone pulls out a gun immediately alert I use AI cameras to immediately recognize that. We have drone you know, same thing we have drones. We just, if there's something going on in a shopping, and I'll stop, a drone goes out there, get there way faster than a police car. There's never reason for by the way high speed chases you shouldn't have high speed chases between cars You just have a drone follow the car
Starting point is 01:58:56 I mean it's very very simple and the new generation of autonomous drones Spotting forest fires a heat blot drone Drones spots the forest fire and the drone then drops down and looks around to see if if there's a human being near near that heat bloom And someone else either had an unattended campfire that caught fire or it's or it's our And we can detect all of that. That's all done autonomously with AI. So he went on in that same speech to talk about how we're going to look into everything that all the citizens are doing.
Starting point is 01:59:32 I mean, he talked about the mall there, he talked about schools, he talked about if you're in the woods, we're gonna find you. Coincidentally, Larry Ellison also happens to be the largest donor to the Israeli defense forces. He thinks that he was doing such a bang up job that he gave them 16 million. $5 million one time. And because of drop site news we know in his private emails, he talked to the Israeli ambassador about giving $5 million to Marco Rubio because he had been pre-approved for Israel, and that he would help Israel all along the way. And so this guy who says, oh, yeah, Israel is our
Starting point is 02:00:07 greatest ally and we should fund Israel to no end. And we should merge our military technologies now saying we should put cameras and drones everywhere and watch all Americans to make sure they follow the rules and commands of the people in charge. That's my sense of it. Yeah, also, I mean, you're talking about an issue that encroaches on people's privacy. You're talking about a company that has over, I believe, a billion dollars in venture capital and the way they plan on making that back is they sell folks data. So if you're driving around and just mining your own business, that information is packaged. and sold, they also, because it's a national network, it bypasses a lot of like sanctuary
Starting point is 02:00:49 cities where they have, or states where they have laws where they don't allow that kind of interagency communication, this does away with all of that. And it says, no, we're just going to actually, A, sell your information, and B, we're going to do it without you, whether you like it or not, and whether or not it's against the law. And in addition to that, there's the reality that they do occasionally catch people. And they are seen as a net positive by a lot of folks. I think it's a really important thing for everyone to question whether or not it's worth it and whether or not this is a problem in search of a solution or excuse me, a solution in search
Starting point is 02:01:21 of a problem because it seems that way to me. But we'll see how it all pans out. Yeah, so the right wing as opposed to it because they're like, don't tread on me. This is big government and the jackbooted thugs tracking me at all times. No, you don't need to know where I'm going to dinner or to lunch or who I'm hanging out with. And by the way, have technologies like this been abused in the past? Of course, people that are involved in a divorce and one of them is a cop, one of them is, works at the flock cameras and et cetera, and then they want to track their hubby.
Starting point is 02:01:53 That happens all the time. They started doing warrantless wiretapping. They immediately started wiretapping our soldiers and listening in on phone sex. And on the left, we have a ton of issues with it as well, including sometimes used to track if women are going outside the state to get an abortion. So now we're just monitoring you at all times and big brothers up your ass with this stuff. So now free press is like way to go, yes, that's right, we're gonna surveil you. Oh no, no, it's not for Israel, even though free press, Ellison and all these surveillance
Starting point is 02:02:23 folks are massively in favor of Israel. And by the way, what did they do with those unmanned drones in Israel? They turn some of them into kamikaze drones and then they dive in and bomb the place that they're surveilling. And then they use others to assassinate doctors and children. So yay, big brother sounds so nice. We're here, Georgia, well called it. It is 1984, except it's a little like 2026.
Starting point is 02:02:49 Yeah, and it's creepy, by the way. They're creepy. That's not as important of a point, but it is a point. All right. Yes, all right. Ellie, you're awesome. Check them out on Rebel H.HQ. I'm coming right back with the Revolution.
Starting point is 02:03:01 Stay right here. Guys, one of the things that I want to do on this show is talk you through understanding how the game is played, right? We've got the establishment in the system, and then we've got the rebel forces, which is all of us out here in the populace woods, as I call it, right? And so one of the games that the mainstream media plays is smear by proxy. So today I was on Pears Morgan show, and I got a good populace that were on that panel along with me, Dave Smith, Vinny Oshana, Lindy Lee.
Starting point is 02:06:11 You know, I've got issues with different points of view that they have on a whole bunch of issues, but we agree generally speaking that hey, represent the average guy, not the donors, American sovereignty and the wars, defund Israel. But nevertheless, I thought that they were falling into a trap, the trap of let's eliminate each other one by one while we don't take out the establishment, but we use, we fall into the trap of doing smear by proxy against people on the anti-war side and cancel them. And so all of a sudden you just eliminate dissenting voices all over the place. So we had some of those debates and I had Basim Usif on the show earlier today and he said
Starting point is 02:06:57 he didn't even know that Hassan had clarified those comments just a couple of days later right here on the Young Turks. And oftentimes when you see them talking about this on cable news or mainstream media, They don't clarify. Sometimes they do, to be fair, I have seen half of them clarify. And the other half don't bother to tell you, no, you know, he actually explained those comments. So we have that clip and we wanted to share it with you guys. You said America deserved 9-11.
Starting point is 02:07:22 Did you mean that? No, obviously not, especially considering the fact that while that is a very viral quote that is going around currently, if those people were at least even remotely charitable or cared about the actual truth of what I was talking about. They would understand that within context, I was simply referencing the fact that all of the foreign policy decisions and our arming of insurgent groups in the region and our efforts in destabilizing the Middle East have a direct consequence, a boomerang effect, rather, if you will, in causing 9-11.
Starting point is 02:07:56 Of course, every part of what I advocate for is against violence. I abhorre violence, I think it's awful. So that clip exists and they relatively know about it. I don't know that every single reporter or anchor knows about it, but certainly a lot of them do. But half of them just choose to ignore it and to not give that context. Now if, for example, Pearson showed that clip and to be fair to him, he might not have known about it.
Starting point is 02:08:26 But I think that almost everybody on that panel would agree with what Hassan just said. But instead, three out of the four were trying hard to cancel him and take out another dissenting voice. Now they don't say it as cancel culture, they say you're allowed to say whatever you want, but we're pushing back. Yes, but remember, the point of this cancel culture at this point against Hassan is not about Hassan. It's to try to cancel the politicians who are campaigning with him, including Abdul al-Said.
Starting point is 02:08:56 And why do they want to do that? Not because they're concerned about Hassan's comments and whether Abdul's. Abdul believes in them. Abdul just said over the weekend that he thought they were dumb and Hassan thought that they were dumb and that's why he took it back immediately. And so this isn't about that. It's about eliminating your opponents through smear by proxy. And then again, it happened with me and Bernie in 2020 and it's the same exact pattern here.
Starting point is 02:09:19 So now that's your background. Let's show you some of what happened on Pierce. You guys have never talked about, you've never talked about why he's popular in the first place. He's popular because he's anti-war. He's popular because he wants to stick up for the average American. And he might have a different way of doing it than you guys do. But he's not establishment. He's not corrupt.
Starting point is 02:09:38 He's for money out of politics. He's for all the things that are super popular as well. And yes, Dave, you know, we have this agreement over for Medicare and a higher minimum wage poll at 65% or higher. Those are super popular position. And he hates America, Chank. He hates America. So you see, look, Vinnie agrees with.
Starting point is 02:10:00 with all those positions that I just stated, except Medicare for all, right? When it comes to foreign policy and war, and all of us agree, hey, and the endless wars and Hassan agrees. But there's an ally that they're trying to knock out, why? Because they triggered Vinnie. And so they got Vinny to think like, oh, he hates America. So I have to be against them, and I have to be against the candidates that he's supporting. And part of what I would say to Vinny, if we're having a, you know, a calm conversation,
Starting point is 02:10:30 is so what? So he doesn't love America in your mind as much as you do. I'm not sure anybody loves America as much as I do. In fact, I was over at Haasas yesterday and he was saying, you and Abdul, referring to me and Abdul al-Said, he's like, man, you guys are so corny in the way that you're over-the-top patriotic. Okay, guilty is charged. But we're not getting kicked out of the party.
Starting point is 02:10:57 and there's no reason to kick out of Hassan from the party, from the national conversation or anything else. So yeah, I'm more patriotic. So what? So what? And by the way, if you challenged Hassan on it, my guess, I can't speak for him. I don't want to speak for him, even though I'm put into that position all the time. And he's also put into the position of speaking for me all the time.
Starting point is 02:11:19 We're not the same people, okay? But, and in fact, we have these huge debates. We've had it here at Young Turks. I've had it on his show. But if you challenge them on that, my guess is he would tell you all the things that America is doing wrong, which is true, right? And we all agree, yes, and we try to perfect that, we try to make it better, we try to get on the right path.
Starting point is 02:11:40 And then he would tell you that there's a million things that he really loves about America, including what we both get to do, which is exercise our freedom of speech. And you don't get that in every country, and that's a blessing, et cetera. But most importantly, don't let them distract you with these tiny little statements that are not pertinent to any actual issues we're discussing now. They bring up those statements to try to make sure that you eliminate candidates who will actually get you out of the wars. Don't fall into that trap. All right, here's another clip from Pierce. I am not going to be in the same party with a son, Parker.
Starting point is 02:12:22 I can tell you that right now. If he becomes a force in a Democratic Party, I'm out of here. Is the Democratic Party, is it losing itself and therefore people like you? I don't think so. I mean, we have an idiotic wing of the party that embrace what I would call, based on what you guessed, the last second. It was an extinction level stupidity and woemness. But thank God that it seems that Mr. Al-Said is beyond that. thank God, welcome to the Folsom.
Starting point is 02:12:56 And we had this little unpleasant chapter that was embraced by really stupid people, some who identify with the Democratic Party that has been squished and is now a part of history. And we should keep it that way. So we show you that because, all right, okay, we're starting to get to a place where even James Carvel is figuring it out. Oh, this is to eliminate Abdul al-Said. And wait a minute, he's a Democratic nominee for Senate in Michigan. And then when peers asked them about Abdul a little bit later in that show, Carvel said that he is definitely going to vote for Abdul al-Said, and he prefers him greatly to a clown like
Starting point is 02:13:41 Rogers, who's been working with Big Pharma and ripping us off. Okay, good, good, super happy to hear it. And so if even Carvel's waking up to that, I hope that we all wake up to it. And whether it's on the left, center, or right, and by the way, again, to the people on the left who are busy canceling Marjorie Taylor Green and Joe Kent and Tom Massey. Oh, Tom Massey met with Flynn, and I hate Flynn. I got no love for Mike Flynn. But is Massey in favor of getting out of the wars?
Starting point is 02:14:15 Yes, releasing the FDFSI files. Yes. Defunding Israel, yes. So I don't have to agree with him on abortion or Flynn, okay? And you don't have to agree with Hassan on his love or lack of love for America or where he is on a scale of 1 to 10 on how much she wants to bear hug America, okay? So you don't have to agree on that. You just have to agree issue by issue on the things that we work on.
Starting point is 02:14:36 So don't cancel the MTG and all those guys. And you don't have to vote for them. You don't have to vote for Hassan. You don't have to vote for Tucker Carlson. We just have to work together on anti-war candidates. And by the way, look, I'd be surprised if that M.T. contingent, you know, said to vote for Mike Rogers over Abdullah Saeed. In fact, I'm already sure that Marjorie Taylor Green is not saying that.
Starting point is 02:15:02 I saw one of our posts online saying about how Mike Rogers was a sellout. And now at this point, when they're even helping anti-war candidates on the left in some ways by pointing out the corruption of the Republican candidate, that's amazing, that's awesome. Take yes for an answer. So I would tell James Carvel, hey, Hassan is helping bringing in young people to this party. Yeah, there's a bunch of issues you don't agree with him on. There's a bunch of issues I don't agree with him on. But he's bringing more people into the tent.
Starting point is 02:15:37 And so, well, let's fight on the issues we don't agree on, but still stay in the same tent and try to win elections. And now it looks like Carvel's beginning to head in that direction. And then I would tell my friends on the left, hey, don't try to kick out Joe Kent or Glenn Greenwald or whoever else out of our tent as they're being great fighters against the war in Iran. And honestly, way better fighters against the war in Iran and against Israel's influence. influence in America than most of the Democratic politicians. I mean, who has fought more against the Iran war?
Starting point is 02:16:13 An average corporate Democrat or Joe Kent? Not close. An average establishment Democrat or somebody in Democratic leadership or Marjorie Taylor Green and Tom Massey and Tucker Carlson and Dave Smith and even Vinny Oshana. Not close, they've all fought tooth and nail against this war. and against Israel's influence control over America. Do I see establishment Democrats doing that? Democratic politicians fighting justice hard for that?
Starting point is 02:16:44 No. In fact, somebody earlier today just said to me, and it's a great point, I think it wasn't one of our members. They wrote in earlier in the show and said that democratic politicians on TV are attacking Hassan Piker and candidates like, Abdul al-Saeed more than they're attacking Trump or their Iran war. That's nuts, that's nuts. Now of course that's nuts if you care about our side winning and our policies winning, but if you secretly want to help Israel or the corporate packs and you don't really care
Starting point is 02:17:26 who wins a Democrat or Republican as long as the Uniparty wins, then you would do exactly what those Democratic politicians are doing on TV. Instead of attacking the other side, you'd attack your own side to make sure that the Republicans win because you secretly agree with the Republicans. On all of the corporate PACs, and that's why you never pass any of our policies, and yes, on foreign governments as well. So guys, let's all wake up to the games that are being played. Don't get played. Don't get driven to distraction by what someone said. Remember, any corporate politician, whether they're Democrat or Republican, and almost all the Republicans fit into this category other than Massey, what's much more important is that they have an alliance with
Starting point is 02:18:10 Benjamin Netanyahu. Benjamin Netanyahu hasn't just said terrible things, he's done terrible things, including killing 23,000 kids. And we're in an era in America where we're in a full mask off time. Because corporate media never asked anyone to denounce Benjamin Netanyahu, even though he is a verifiable monster, a guy who committed a genocide, a war criminal, and yet no one's asked to denounce them. But oh, a streamer said something wrong, on the left or the right.
Starting point is 02:18:47 You have to cancel them and every politician they've ever interacted with. Yeah, that is a dirty, underhanded trick by the establishment. If you're on the left or the right and you're a populist, do not fall into that trap. And I'm consistent on it, whether it applies to the right or the left. People I agree with or people I even disagree with. It's still a trap and we need to make sure that we wisen up to those traps so we don't fall into them and we stay united enough to win on those incredibly important policy positions. We regain American sovereignty and have our.
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