The Young Turks - Canary Mission Exposed - April 23, 2026

Episode Date: April 24, 2026

Donald Trump orders the Navy to strike any Iranian boats laying mines in the Strait of Hormuz, escalating tensions. Exiled royal Reza Pahlavi faces backlash after losing his temper when pressed on his... support for foreign military intervention, while new reporting spotlights top online “content” figures tied to Canary Mission. Alan Dershowitz melts down during a debate with Piers Morgan and Joe Kent. Thanks to today's sponsors: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at shopify.com/tyt Just go to this exclusive web address right now to try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE: ziprecruiter.com/tyt Go to cookunity.com/tyt or enter code TYT before checkout to get 50% off your first order. Use less data, get paid by switching to Noble Mobile: https://go.tyt.com/getnoble Hosts: Ana Kasparian SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞  https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK  ☞   https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER  ☞       https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM  ☞  https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK  ☞          https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH  ☞      https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:45 Begat! Everyone, welcome to TYT. I'm your host, Anna Kasparian. It's Thursday. I'm feeling lit. You should be feeling lit. We've got an amazing rundown to share with you today. We're going to talk about the, yes, latest update.
Starting point is 00:01:43 with the war slash ceasefire with Iran. Lot to get to there, including a pretty good piece that the Wall Street Journal put out today. It's an exclusive in regard to what our military stockpiles actually look like. And spoiler alert, not great, not great. That could be the reason why Trump decided to do an indefinite ceasefire. But we'll get to that a little later. Reza Pahlavi was in Berlin, Germany. and had tomato sauce thrown at him because he's, you know, King Pahlavi, everyone loves him, right?
Starting point is 00:02:20 The Iranian people are desperate for him and his leadership. I'm obviously being sarcastic, but not about the tomato sauce part. So we'll get to that in just a bit. And I just can't wait for Wazni Lombray to join us for the second hour of the show and the bonus episode for our members that will be behind a paywall. But the good news is you can become a member by going to tyt.com slash join or you can hit that join button. There are also some free and easy ways to help support the program by just liking and sharing the stream if you're watching us live. So thank you to everyone who's already
Starting point is 00:02:52 done that. Please do it if you haven't already done it. And without further ado, let's get to our first story. President Trump just order the Navy to shoot, kill any boat laying mines. Is this escalation? No, not escalation at all. This is just President Trump never underestimate his ability to appropriately use leverage to strike a deal that's great for the American people. And when he says the strait is closed, he means that. He means where we've got the boundary water line there that says no boat is going to go past this. But that doesn't mean that just because we have a ceasefire that Iran can keep mining the strait. You know that Iran uses the Strait of Hormuz to transport cargo and oil.
Starting point is 00:03:41 meaning it's highly unlikely that they have mined the Strait of Hormuz. But nonetheless, today President Donald Trump ordered the U.S. Navy to destroy any Iranian boats that are booby-trapping the Strait of Hormuz with mines. Okay. Now, according to the Secretary of the Interior, Doug Bergam, the gentleman you saw in the video earlier, this is all classic art of the deal stuff. So this morning, Trump wrote the following on Truth Social. Let's take a look. He says, I have ordered the U.S. Navy to shoot and kill any boat, small boats, though they may be.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Small boats, though they may be, their naval ships are all 159 of them at the bottom of the sea. Then what are you talking about? What are you talking? I just, I quit and I'm going to be a florist. Okay, I'm going to make flower arrangements for weddings. Hit me up. My email is, I'm kidding, but let me just, let's go back to it. Let's go back to the insanity. Their naval ships are all 159 of them at the bottom of the sea that is putting mines in the waters of the Strait of Pormuz. There is to be no hesitation. Additionally, our mine sweepers are clearing the strait right now.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I am hereby ordering that activity to continue, but at a tripled up level. Thank you for your attention to this matter. It isn't just Iran that uses the Strait of Hormuz in order to transport oil and cargo. It's allies. And countries that have made deals with Iran do so as well, like India, for instance. So why would they mind the Strait of Hormuz? That is some of the dumbest nonsense I've heard from Trump's mouth, but it's Trump, so I guess we should just expect it. So soon after, he insisted, without evidence, of course, that Iran's government is at war with itself. So this is a continuation of the narrative that we talked about yesterday, right?
Starting point is 00:05:44 That there, ooh, there's divisions and fracturing within the IRGC. And I'm willing to believe that. It's not like I just deny straight up everything that Donald Trump or supporters of Israel have to say. I just, I just want to see the evidence, right? I want to see something to go off of that bolsters the argument here. But again, no evidence. Here's what Trump said. This is definitely wishful thinking. Iran is having a very hard time figuring out who their leader is. They just don't know. You want to know who's having a hard time understanding who our leader is, the United States of America. Okay. Anyway, let me continue. He says the infighting is between the hardliners who have been losing badly on the battlefield and the moderates who are not very moderate at all,
Starting point is 00:06:34 but gaining respect. Okay, so if they're not moderate, if they're extreme, just like the hardliners, why would we believe that there is fracturing taking place within the Iranian government? Like none of this makes sense. Anyway, I'm not going to read the rest of that because I will literally lose my mind. And it's Thursday. I've had four straight days of this stuff this week. I need a break. Okay, so let's keep going.
Starting point is 00:06:57 As we explained yesterday, none of this is true. There's no evidence that we can point to that says, yes, there are fractures within the IRGC. And today, the Wall Street Journal reported that Iran's top leaders issued nearly identical statements within minutes of each other, declaring a unity behind the country's supreme leader, an unusual show of synchronized messaging that appeared to counter President Donald Trump's claim that Tehran's power structure is riven by internal divisions. And then you have the Iranian parliamentary speaker, that's Mohamed Ghalibov, who wrote this on X. Let's take a quick look. In Iran, there are no radicals or moderates. We are all Iranian and revolutionary. And with the iron unity of the nation and government, with complete obedience to the supreme leader of the revolution, we will make the aggressor criminal regret his actions. I think he does already.
Starting point is 00:07:55 How could Trump not regret his actions? This war has backfired in a devastating fashion. Iran did not control the Strait of Hormuz prior to the war. They now do control the Strait of Hormuz. They have blocked, closed off the Strait of Hormuz because Trump decided to respond to the blocking of the strait by doing his own blockade of Iranian vessels, which are now circumventing Trump's blockade by using their shadow fleet. As I shared with you all yesterday, the Financial Times reported that 34 Iranians, vessels, part of Iran's shadow fleet were able to transport cargo without the U.S. being able to do a
Starting point is 00:08:41 damn thing about it. That's the truth. That's the reality of the situation. But, you know, here we are. We're stuck in this situation. Israel is waiting, awaiting a green light from the United States, says Israel cats, who wants to go to war, who wants the war to continue. Israel is awaiting a green light from the United States first and foremost to complete the elimination of the Hamine regime or dynasty. The initiator of the extermination plan against Israel. My God. And the successors of the successors of the leadership of the Iranian terror regime. And in addition to return Iran to the age of darkness and stone by blowing up central energy and electricity facilities,
Starting point is 00:09:28 and crushing national economic infrastructure. That's Israel Katz, the Israeli defense minister. So look, time will tell what the Israeli government plans to do here, but make no mistake about it. Israel Katz's statement begins with, Israel is awaiting a green light from the United States. Why is that? Because Israel can't do a damn thing without the United States.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Israel's military excels at one thing and one thing only. raping hostages in their prison system, Palestinian hostages, and killing unarmed civilians and blowing up buildings. That's what the IDF excels at. So the idea that the IDF would go in and fight Iran unilaterally is laughable. They would never even consider it. In fact, they never did consider putting IDF soldiers on the ground in Iran, but they have been demanding that Americans put their troops on the ground in Iran. So yeah, Israel is awaiting a green light from the United States. I know. I know cats. I know. The real question is how much more can the Israeli government manipulate the president of the United States into carrying out their dirty wars? And here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:10:47 When you look at our inventory of weaponry, it looks like Trump's hands could be tied to some extent, which I welcome. So the Center for Strategic and International Studies released a report Tuesday that expressed some concerns about dwindling stockpiles. Now, these are not doves, right? The people behind this think tank are not individuals who are like, oh, we really want to discourage Trump from continuing this war. No, no, no. These are warhawks. And these warhawks are worried about us not having the weaponry necessary to defend Taiwan from China. They're like, our stockpiles, what are we going to do? What about the war, the big warrants? The big war that we're aching for. Okay. So here's what they found based on their analysis of our military weaponry.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Based on pre-war inventories, the Center for Strategic and International Studies estimated that munitions expended in Iran would represent roughly 27 percent of Tomahawk stockpiles. I mean, we do be killing a lot of little girls in Iran with our Tomahawk missiles, don't we? But let me continue with their analysis here. About 36% of Jasm, a third of SM6, nearly half of SM3, more than two thirds of Patriot Interceptors, and more than 80% of THAAD interceptors. That means the stockpiles are more pronounced, or I should say the shortfalls of our stockpile,
Starting point is 00:12:18 more pronounced for defensive weapons like missile interceptors. Hey, what about, you know, the United States of America, considering the fact that we have a lot of enemies right now and we continue to isolate ourselves by being aligned with a, you know, a pariah state like Israel. We have alienated ourselves. Trump has attacked our allies, you know, European countries, NATO allies, threatening to, you know, invade and take over Greenland. All of these Liberation Day tariffs, I'm sure didn't make a lot of friends for the United States. States. So knowing that we have depleted 80% of our THAAD interceptors, it would be insane. It would be insane to continue this war. Absolutely insane. I mean, we're in a bad spot already because Iran has control the Strait of Hormuz and we don't have the military means to take control away from them. So how about we just cut our losses and hit the road and actually focused on our own country? And here's the other thing. You might be thinking, not a big deal. We're so strong. We'll just reproduce the weapons that we need, right? Not a big deal, except, quote,
Starting point is 00:13:37 it's going to be years before we can rebuild those inventories, said Mark Kansian, a senior advisor to CSIS, who co-wrote this report. Israel is a liability to the United States. They are a liability to our national security. They are a liability to the economic health of our country. They are a liability when it comes to world peace. Let's keep it 100. And the fact that we're doing this under the false pretense of nuclear weapons that Iran
Starting point is 00:14:12 doesn't even have is insane. This is about regime change or creating a failed state in Iran so Israel can expand its borders. Why are we putting ourselves in this position to help another country build its empire? What are we doing? But in the meantime, we have to endure the likes of Representative Addison McDowell, who fortunately we don't hear too much from, but unfortunately today we will. McDowell is insisting that Trump is the greatest negotiator to ever live. Let's watch. Let's let him do his thing.
Starting point is 00:14:48 He's the best negotiator to ever live. And so I'm excited to see what he can turn out from that. But look, you know, you've got him already saving these people in Iran. They're slaves and they're going to be murdered. And look, their lives are being saved because President Trump did what no president could do in 40 years. And so my Democrat colleagues, they, you know, it doesn't matter what it is. They hate Trump so much, they've broken, he's broken their brains.
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Starting point is 00:16:51 Is that man mentally challenged? And I'm not just saying that as an insult. It is a genuine and sincere question. Donald Trump is saving the Iranian people. They're being butchered right now by American and Israeli bombs. Well, not at this very moment because we have a semi-seesfire taking place. But prior to that, let me ask that McDowell character. The 168 children at that elementary school in Manab, Iran, were they saved?
Starting point is 00:17:19 McDowell, were they saved? And make no mistake about it, okay? The treachery is very much bipartisan. This is not a Democrat versus Republican thing, okay? It's very much bipartisan. Now look, previous presidents, either Democrat or Republican, weren't stupid enough to be manipulated by the likes of Benjamin Netanyahu and Mossad into, carrying out a war that is to the detriment of our country.
Starting point is 00:17:49 But Trump was stupid enough to do it. Trump was stupid enough to do it. And it's not because he's a Republican. It's because he's stupid. He's a stupid, stupid man whose chief of staff worked as a consultant for Benjamin Netanyahu's reelection campaign in 2020. Susie Wiles. So that's what we're dealing with right now.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Just utter stupidity. Congress, utter stupidity. The executive branch, complete and utter disaster. Our military stockpiles completely diminished because of the endless wars we engage in, or support, or arm, or fund. Since the beginning of Israel's latest wars, let's just start with October 7th moving on, we have given Israel $30 billion, minimum, $30 billion. And we were already drowning in federal debt. What are we doing? So let's move on to the economy.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Worth checking in. Let's see how things are going. The economic ramifications of the war against Iran continue to mount, build up. We are not in good shape. Now, Faith Beryl, who is the head of the International Energy Agency or IEA, just declared that we are in a historic crisis. Great. So for reference, the IEA is the intergovernmental organization with 32 member countries, right? So this is an international organization that provides policy recommendations for the energy sector, because guess what? Oil and gas is part of a global market, right? It doesn't work the way that Trump would like you to think, where we got lots of oil and gas and we don't need anybody else. No, it doesn't work that way, Homeboy. Actually, he does know that.
Starting point is 00:19:44 He does know that, which is why in the beginning of the war, Trump lifted sanctions on Iran so they can sell oil and increase the supply of oil as oil infrastructure was getting absolutely devastated and destroyed in our Gulf countries, Gulf allied countries, right? So he's like, oh, that's not good. Oil prices are going to go up. People are going to feel it at the pump. So let me lift sanctions on Iran. That's what happened in the very beginning of the war. Okay. So this faith, Briel character says the following, we are facing the biggest energy security threat in history. As of today, we've lost 13 million barrels per day of oil,
Starting point is 00:20:22 and there are major disruptions in vital commodities. Here in America, many families are already cutting back on spending. And look, I hate seeing Americans struggle even more than they were already struggling. Okay, it is an injustice of epic proportions. But believe it or not, Americans are still in way better shape than Asian countries. Countries like South Korea, for instance, which are really in a severe crisis, they're considering rationing their energy as a result. I mean, what does South Korea do to deserve this? You know, like think about the fact that engaging in this war against Iran punishes the entire
Starting point is 00:21:07 globe. But let's get back to Americans. The CNBC All-America Economic Survey of 1,000 people found nearly 80% have changed their spending habits in response to pain at the pump. More than 50% believe the increase in gas prices will last six months or longer. It'll be longer, my friends. I apologize, but it's just true. About 60% of respondents have cut back on entertainment like eating out, movies and concerts to save money. More than 50% plan to travel less. So this is having a domino effect on the broader economy already. And it's only going to get worse.
Starting point is 00:21:49 In fact, some of you might be wondering, well, what's up with the Strait of Hormuz? I mean, Trump says that there isn't a definite ceasefire. But Iran still has control of the Strait of Hormuz, where 20% of the world's oil and gas is transported through, like what's going on? Now, around 40% are spending, Americans are spending less on essential items like groceries and medical care. And mind you, they were already cutting back on medical care. Some 30% are relying on their credit cards even more at a time when credit card debt is at record levels and no one in our government has done a damn thing about the greedy usury that's taking place with insanely high interest rates. So on the topic of Donald Trump, the president of the United States,
Starting point is 00:22:39 who's supposed to be the leader of this country representing the best interests of the American people. What is he doing about it? He's brushing off concerns about the economy as his approval rating nose dives. So on Tuesday, he recounted the story of how he told his cabinet that he was about to tank the world economy just before launching the Iran war. Let's watch. I hate to do this to everybody, but I'm going to have to journey down to a place called Iran and not make sure they don't have a nuclear weapon. Because they will blow up the world. You want to see a bad stock market.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Try blowing up the Middle East and then Europe. And then they come for us, right? And we're not going to let that happen. So I said to the people, I said to my people, they're all gathered, all these wonderful guys, got best into the whole group, Howard. They were all doing a good job. I said, fellas, I get a little bad news for you.
Starting point is 00:23:28 I'm going to put a little wrinkle in your numbers wise, sir. We're going down to a place called Iran, and we're going to make sure that they never have a nuclear weapon because they'll use it to blow it. because they're religious fanatics, and they will use that weapon to blow up the world, but they'll start with Israel in the Middle East, and we're not going to let that happen.
Starting point is 00:23:46 And they said, wow, that's going to be bad. I said, yeah, it's going to hurt the market, and it's going to drive up the price of oil and whatever it is. But that's peanuts compared to what would happen if we let this happen. And if you would have told me that the Dow is almost, I'm looking at your thing, I mean, literally we're at 50,000. And if you would have told me that oil is at 90, as opposed to 200, I would be frankly surprised.
Starting point is 00:24:16 You want to talk about religious fanatics? You want to talk about Iran didn't have nuclear weapons. They weren't even building nuclear weapons. You have extremist Israelis trying to bring red heifers into some mosque and sacrifice it because of their religious fanaticism. Like, what are we doing? What are we doing? I don't understand Americans who support this. I don't understand. Well, I mean, I understand them if they're Israel supporters and care about Israel more than our country. I understand them. But for the rest of you, please don't get hoodwinked by this garbage. He got hoodwink so hard. During the election, I remember asking myself, why is Benjamin Netanyahu so H for Trump, right? Because look at Biden. Biden's doing everything Netanyahu wants. Like, what is up with this dude? He's so horny for Trump. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:25:12 And I realized what it is. Trump is just dumber. He's just dumber. Congratulations, America. We got to take a break. We'll be right back. I love cows. Well, hello.
Starting point is 00:25:27 That's kind of nasty. What's up, everyone? Welcome back. So producer Taylor, Taylor Ellis, is like, he's the one who produced that story. And he's just like, I didn't mean to break you. But it's not that particular. particular story, it's just, I feel like I'm going crazy. Like, I see reality and everyone else in, like, everyone in positions of power just don't see it. I don't know. Anyway, Asimov's
Starting point is 00:26:34 prophet says, isn't indefinite ceasefire just another way of saying forever war? I think you could just assume that America is always at war. We are always forever war. Okay, we should just rename the country forever war. But yeah, I mean, this is not. This is unprecedented, like this whole notion of an indefinite ceasefire. It's ridiculous. And it's because Trump can't win this war, but he doesn't want to admit loss. He doesn't want to engage in diplomacy. He doesn't want to make a deal, okay?
Starting point is 00:27:07 The guy who has his name on a book called The Art of the Deal doesn't know how to make a deal. Anyway, Jay, Jesper, I'm going to read your comment when we come back because I spent too much time having a meltdown. I'll see you in a minute. What's up, everyone? Welcome back. Jay Jesper 82 in our members section. And thank you to our members for supporting the show and keeping us independent so I can run my mouth the way I do every day.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Says, hi, everyone. I just want to say that Anna is the real deal. You all, thank you again for your wonderful presentation today. Thank you so much. I did a presentation on international law and human rights for a public library in Oklahoma. And I really, really appreciated the people who appreciated the presentation, who were there, who asked questions. Our country has a lot of wonderful people in it.
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Starting point is 00:29:30 All right, everyone, let's move on to our next story. And this is one that really speaks to my heart. Because the fine journalists over at DropSight News wanted to figure out who are the shadowy figures behind Canary Mission, right? This is an organization that viciously goes after defames and dockses Americans who are critical of Israel. And so let's get to the details on what drop site found. Right before I launched TYT, the doubt was real. What if nobody watches?
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Starting point is 00:31:11 Dropside news has identified the highest paid impasse. employees of the Israeli doxing outfit, better known as Canary Mission. Now, I myself have been a target of theirs, and I welcome it. I will continue running my mouth about Israel's war crimes and the fact that we should absolutely decouple from that pariah state, that genocidal state, that state that continues to drag us into wars that don't benefit us in any way, shape, or form. That, of course, has nothing to do with Judaism or Jewish people, but it has everything to do with a foreign government that has been not a great ally to the U.S.
Starting point is 00:31:54 So with all of that in mind, let's talk about what DropSight found. And I just want to give a big shout out to Jacqueline Sweet, who did this reporting, and she did a fantastic job. So last January, DropSite News was able to confirm that the site actually does operate out of Israel. So make no mistake about it, this is an Israeli outfit that is attacking and targeting Americans who are critical of Israel. Now, to add in salty injury, Israel wouldn't even exist if it weren't for the United States bankrolling the hell out of it. So let's remember the fact
Starting point is 00:32:31 that they live off of our welfare and then have the audacity to bully and harass our American citizens because they dare to criticize a foreign country. So the unlisted website data revealed that an employee paid by the Israeli non-profit Megamot Shalom as a writer provided content for Canary Missions dossiers of targets confirming earlier reporting by the foreword, which by the way is, I believe a Jewish publication that Megamot Shalom's only known activity appears to be providing support to Canary Mission. Okay, interesting. So we know that it's an Israeli outfit, great. Now, the forward back in 2018 uncovered evidence that Megamot Shalom was formed as an entity running Canary
Starting point is 00:33:30 missions operations by a UK-born businessman by the name of Jonathan Bash, who now lives in Jerusalem. Now, Jonathan Bash has made a real name for himself bashing others for justified critique and criticism of Israel. That's what his claim to fame is now. Congratulations. So Dropside has also identified five people whom Megamot Shalom has employed as so-called content writers, editors and consultants. And they did so through a review of Megamott's business filings with the Israeli government between 2016 and 2024. This is getting real good, real juicy. So who are they? You'll be shocked to find that these are all American-born individuals who later moved to Israel, right? Land that they believe belongs to them. Okay. So you have Elihu David Stone.
Starting point is 00:34:26 He's from Boston, now living in Israel. Yehuda Ha Corrin from New York, of course. Abigail Boerstein from New York. Aaron Dickel from Bethesda, Maryland. And then you have Alexander Duncan, who's also from Bethesda, Maryland. They're all based in Israel now. And they work for Canary Mission. These are the top five highest paid content creators,
Starting point is 00:34:54 content writers, editors, and consultants. So these were the top five, and I want to just kind of give you a little more information about them and what they're up to. So, by the way, just a side note, their American citizenship should be revoked. They're Israelis now, right? Great. So you shouldn't, since you have made a name for yourself, you have dedicated your life to doxing American citizens for criticizing the country you actually care about,
Starting point is 00:35:24 you should give up your American citizenship. But that's just a side note. Now, there are more people associated with Canary Mission than these five, of course. But here's what you should know about the five that we're talking about. So non-public websites revealing staging material for Canary Mission's website, showing that someone uploading content for a dossier of a pro-Palestine activist on the site, match the name of a person listed as a content writer on Megamot Shalom's business listing, a UK-born writer named Alex Ben Carson, now living in Jerusalem.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Okay, so that's one other person that was identified aside from the five individuals that I mentioned earlier. So where does Megamot Shalom get its funding? Americans, of course. American donations are moved to Megamot via a New York-based nonprofit called central fund of Israel. So there is a nonprofit in America enjoying the tax exempt benefits of being a nonprofit. And they're taking donations from Americans and then funneling that money to an organization that harasses bullies and doxes Americans for practicing their First Amendment rights and being critical of a foreign country. That is what's taking place here. So let's dive in on Elihu, David's
Starting point is 00:36:50 Stone because he appears to be the one creating dossiers on me. And he has associations with some real creeps. And I'm not kidding when I say that. So Elihu, David Stone, was selected as one of the 1992 Wexner Heritage Program Fellows. Stone stayed involved with Wexner, attending an alumni I retreat in 1994 and writing for the group's website several times, most recently in 2017. Now, we've learned quite a bit about Wexner and his close ties and association with Jeffrey Epstein. In fact, Jeffrey Epstein was a trustee of the Wexner Heritage Program. Pretty gross, Elihu, pretty gross. What have you been up to? Maybe we should do some digging into your reputation.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Now, despite being involved in a program that had a notorious pedophile as a trustee, by the way, a lot of Israel ties with Epstein, right? Stone has spent some time targeting us for having a problem with things like, you know, genocide. In February, he shared a Canary Mission post on Facebook about the Young Turks podcast, writing anti-Semitism as a virus, see what it does to people, right, because being a against killing innocent people, including children, means you're anti-Semitic. That's how they're rebranding the word anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Anyone who doesn't like genocide, who doesn't like land theft, who doesn't like the barbarism that we've all seen on our screens for two and a half years straight, they're anti-Semites for having a problem with it. Right. Okay. Do they understand that they're making anti-Semitism or rebranding it to sound like a good thing? Maybe don't do that.
Starting point is 00:38:39 But they can't help themselves because they don't actually care about the well-being of Jewish people. They care about a foreign country that they moved to. They were born here, moved to Israel, give up your U.S. citizenship. I don't want you ever coming back here. So there was a federal lawsuit underway, or there was a federal lawsuit. It actually has a ruling that I love. Now, they were targeting Canary Mission over First Amendment violations, which are obvious. It was filed by the American Association of University Professors and the Center for,
Starting point is 00:39:15 give me one second, I'm sorry, and the Middle East Studies Association. So these two organizations filed this lawsuit against Canary Mission over violations of the First Amendment. And based on what DHS officials in a sworn deposition said, they said that Canary Missions dossiers were used by the Department of Homeland Security in 2025 to build list. of foreign students who express pro-Palestine views with over 75 people identified based on Canary Mission's anonymous blacklists. So they create these blacklists. And the DHS under Trump is like, yes, yes, daddy, tell me which foreign students I should target, throw in prison and deport. Like pathetic little cucks. So in January, a federal judge ruled in favor of the plaintiffs
Starting point is 00:40:09 and said the case revealed an unconstitutional conspiracy to violate the First Amendment. Now look, our system of government has been corrupted. The important elements that actually represent Americans and what's best for Americans has been partly dismantled. But at least we still have some semblance of justice. In this case, justice did play out. Now there's a group of 70 American religious and civil rights organizations that want DHS to open a foreign agents registration act investigation into Canary Mission since the group's operations are based in Israel by Americans who left this country to go live in Israel and target American citizens for practicing their First Amendment rights and criticizing a foreign country. That's the reality of the situation. So if you're wondering why someone like Jake Tapper would have such a hard-on or hate boner for a drop site, this is why.
Starting point is 00:41:17 This is actual journalism. This is actual investigation. This is information that benefits the American people. Rather than, you know, misinformation or disinformation meant to manipulate Americans into supporting a full. country that has done nothing but take our money, drag us into wars, and if we don't play ball, threaten us, and destroy the livelihoods of some of the Americans who unfortunately weren't lucky enough to be able to fight back. No more of this. And for the billionth time, there is nothing on this planet, including Canary Mission, that's going to shut me up about the
Starting point is 00:42:03 atrocities being committed by Israel with our money in our support. I'm an American. That's my money too. And it is shameful that our government is implicated in the atrocities carried out by Israel. But it is. And that's the truth. We got to take a break. We'll be right back with more. I want to talk about Pahlavi and his amazing press conference in Berlin, Germany. You don't want to miss it. We'll be right back. Smitter for Anna makes a comment about my Pierce Morgan appearance. We are going to show you some video of that today. Congratulations on your restraint on Pierce.
Starting point is 00:43:20 And you look so calm and peaceful. I almost thought you were using an AI Zen filter, Chef's Kiss. It took a lot of energy to, well, actually it didn't. It didn't. There was someone on the panel and I'm going to show you a video today and give him a lot of credit. His name is Josh Rogan. He's a columnist for the Washington Post. I don't know how I never knew about this guy. He's awesome. Okay. So I think the fact that there was someone else on the panel who was just level-headed and made really good arguments, it was inspiring. It inspired me to just
Starting point is 00:43:52 be calm and also try to just make good arguments and not let anyone trigger me. Socialized socialized hole says Casper, happy Thursday. I love all TYT. I love all TYT host, but have a special place for you in my heart as you're the only one who has spoken out against the BS Karen narrative. Yes, we have to be kind to everyone. People who don't have power. It's funny that you mentioned that because I remembered today a story that we did about a woman who lost it in a Victoria's Secret. And then later we found out that she had a severe mental health issue. And I felt so bad that we covered that story and made fun of her. Anyway, back to the show. Humanity, bitch. And you should appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:44:41 You guys are super active today in the comments. I love it. I'm going to try to try to I read a few right now before we move on to our next story. We have in our Twitch community, Canadian Skull Dragon who says of Trump, he's such a disaster and disgrace. I agree. Septepenra says Americans used to have that revolutionary spirit. Now we're friends with despots. Yeah, I know. I mean, I think it's coming back.
Starting point is 00:45:21 And that's a good thing. I think Americans are waking up. And it used to just be the left that was hyper focused on questions of war in peace. Let's keep it real. Like the neocons had fully taken over the Republican Party. I think what's changed this time around is luckily there are more and more Republicans who are rejecting neoconservative ideology. And that is critical because the left cannot defeat this foreign policy agenda alone.
Starting point is 00:45:54 So that's just something to keep in mind. Building coalitions, issues-based coalitions matters, especially when it comes to something like foreign policy, because there's a lot of money and a lot of power behind what's going on right now. Let's go to our wonderful super chatters. We've got Pakistani American Hock Sentinel says, I'm with Dan who is running for Florida Congress 100%. Randy Swine. Oh, you mean Dan Bilzerian. Randy Swine is a traitor and certified kosher Zionist. This dude's so guilty, his shadow needs a lawyer. The only thing I disagree with is Heretz is reporting today that in southern Lebanon, IDF have been engaged in routine and large-scale theft of motorcycles,
Starting point is 00:46:40 televisions, paintings, sofas, and carpets. Do superiors, those superiors let them do it, no punishment. This is who they are. I don't know how you and sorry, this is a new super chat. By the way, I don't know why I did that. I just thank you to Pakistani American Hawk Sentinel. That was the first comment. The second part was from History Speaks.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Thank you, History Speaks. Third comment is from DJ Payne, 1236, who says, I don't know how you guys do it with all this craziness, but I admire and respect your passion in your work to keep bringing out the truth and challenging the system. You guys rock. Thank you. I appreciate you saying that.
Starting point is 00:47:16 One of my closest friends who used to be, be a colleague at TYT actually, was like, I don't know, Anna, like, do you, you absorb a lot of negativity every day? Like, maybe you should consider, you know, building a different career. And I'm just like, but I'm good at what I do. So I'm going to keep doing it. All right, let's move on to Reza Palavi, who was in Berlin, Germany, and enjoyed some tomato sauce today. Thinking that the regime has the ability to actually commit to a lasting peace is a little bit too much of a fantasy. Many people around the world think that you are an Israeli asset. Are you? Yes. I mean, I'm answering for him. But yes, that was Reza Palavi, an Iranian monarchist,
Starting point is 00:48:01 an exiled son of the former Shah of Iran, who is just real thirsty to be installed as a puppet leader deferential to the United States and Israel. But it doesn't look like it's going to play out that well for him. Now, he was in Berlin, Germany, hoping to meet with the German government to pressure them to join the U.S.-Israeli fight against Iran. Germany's government was unwilling to take that meeting, to which I say finally, really. Because look, the Holocaust and, you know, the previous crimes that were carried out by the Nazi regime, I think have made Germany very very, very sensitive to any issue involving Israel, and they've been very deferential to Israel. However, I think they're finally getting to a point where like, I think we might be on the
Starting point is 00:48:57 wrong side of history again, and you are. So don't join this war. It's a really bad idea. Now, Palavi was rejected, but he did hold a press conference that contained moments worthy of discussion. Now, this wasn't part of the press conference. He was outdoors, but this is also worthy of watching because for all that we hear about how much Pallabees loved, he wasn't really welcomed by some in Berlin. Take a look. All right. So that was tomato sauce. Some people argued it was red paint. That didn't look like red paint. But police did say that the suspect was immediately arrested. Okay. So not a welcome, you know, reception there. But what did he have to say during his press conference. Actually, more importantly, what type of questions did the journalists who attended
Starting point is 00:50:07 the press conference ask and how did he answer? And I got to say, some of these journalists did a really great job. So there was this banger question about Pallavi's recent attempts to rewrite history and claim that he never called for military intervention in Iran. We showed you that video. He made the statement on French television and he got called out about it. Let's take a look. In a French TV show, you recently said that you never argued for military intervention in Iran, but under 10th of February, you clearly stated in an interview with Glenn Beck that only a foreign military intervention could neutralize the apparatus of repression in Iran, and only that can be the solution.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Do you feel responsible for the many innocent Iranians who have died to the U.S. and Israeli bombs, may I say illegal, bombing? that you supported? So I had to just kind of distill that, separate the question out as a separate video, because that was a fantastic question. That is the question I would have asked if I were a part of the press pool at this press conference. So I just, I don't know the name of the journalist who asked it. I just wanted to give her a world of credit because it is important to not allow individuals who called for the pain and suffering, for the bombing of a conversation. country to then turn around and launder their reputation, rewrite history and make it seem as
Starting point is 00:51:36 though, no, no, no, I never called for war. Now, he was caught here. So he had no choice, but to admit the truth, but he had to put a positive spin on it, or at least attempt to. Let's take a look. The targeting of the regime's infrastructure and its elements of coercion was absolutely something that the Iranian people actually called for. They were asking. They were, in insisting that come and help us. Based on what President Trump has said at the time, that if the regime hits the people, they will see a very harsh response.
Starting point is 00:52:11 The air cover campaign that included hitting the regime infrastructure and apparatus of repression was a necessary step to equalize the playing fields for Iranians that were getting massacred on the streets. We have every right to tell the world when we are being shot on the streets, how else are we supposed to put on the streets, protect ourselves. We can't do it by ourselves. In fact, that was in the interest of protecting
Starting point is 00:52:36 more lives from getting lost. Because the more the regime has a means to suppress people, the more casualties we will face. This is something that, in fact, limits the casualties as opposed to add to the casualties. And no one likes to see civilian casualties. Of course I don't. Of course we ache for anybody that has been collateral damage. What exactly did he mean by we, we're getting shot at by the regime? We're getting killed by the regime. Homeboy, you live in Washington, D.C. You haven't stepped foot in Iran since 1979.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Last time you were in Iran, you were 19 years old. What are you even talking about? We? You're enjoying the comforts and the privilege of living in America in safety as you called for military intervention against Iran. What do you think military intervention means? When you make a deal with the devil and you go to Israel and you talk about how much you love them, you haven't seen the way they carry out warfare? You were under the assumption that the U.S. and the Israelis were going to do targeted strikes. That's what you thought. You didn't think
Starting point is 00:53:53 that. You're not a moron. I mean, maybe I'm giving him too much credit. I don't know. But he knew what he was doing. And now, I don't know if he regrets it, but I'm sure he's getting a lot of backlash for it. So for instance, he says that the Iranian people asked for it. I'm willing to believe that if you show me evidence of it.
Starting point is 00:54:15 What percentage of the Iranian people said they wanted the United States and Israel to bomb their country? Tell me. What's the citation? I'm just supposed to believe the guy who's like thirsting to be installed as the dictator of the country that he just called for the U.S. and Israel to bomb. We're just supposed to believe him. Do I look stupid? Do I look like Elyke-Laban?
Starting point is 00:54:48 And calling dead Iranian civilians collateral damage sure demonstrates how much he values their lives. am I right? But this attitude is common among Iranian monarchists. And I want to make that distinction because the Iranian monarchists do not represent the entirety, not even close, of the Iranian diaspora. So Canadian author, Eves Engler, actually, you know what, before we go to that, there's one other video I want to go to. I want to go to C5 because I want to show you what goes through the mind. Do we have that video, C5? I want to show you guys what goes through the minds of the Iranian monarchists, right? So these are members of the Iranian diaspora.
Starting point is 00:55:39 You'll see them out on the streets protesting. They love Reza Palavi. And it really does seem based on their behavior that they have complete disregard for the actual Iranian people living in Iran. And then there's this guy who kind of messed up a little bit, right? because he said the quiet part out loud. Now, pay attention to the big contradiction in his statements here, but also the brazen disregard for human lives.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Take a look. West flag. Of the mullahs. IRC, they are killing Iranian people. U.S. and Israel, they are helping us to get rid of them. Without U.S.ing, they would kill us all. 90 million people. Do you support Trump's call to a white boat, Iranian civilians,
Starting point is 00:56:34 organization? 100%. You support it. Trump's call her wipe out Iranian civilization? 100%. Sorry, just straight, straight. Can you say that one? So maybe Reza Palavi isn't stupid. Maybe he knew that a lot of Iranian civilians were going to get killed.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And much like the monarchist you just saw in that video, wiping out 90 million people, who cares? I support it. So the gentleman who did that interview is Canadian author Eve's Engler. And I want to give him. credit, please follow his work because he asked a really important question that gives us a peek into the thinking of these monarchists. And I think it's important for us to know about that. So let's get back to Palavi, because his exchange with the reporter in regard to his contradictions about military intervention in Iran,
Starting point is 00:57:30 important to focus on. He didn't answer the question, right? So she decided to follow up and he did not like that. Even today, as I speak to you, you're shifting back to a mode of appeasement. Again, on French to be... I think you should be apologizing to the people of Iran for appeasing the regime as opposed to having their back. I'm here to tell you, we are asking you this time to support the Iranian people. And we're not going to apologize for that demand, because I think the Iranian people deserve your support. And I told you, we will fight the fight regardless of whether you help us or not.
Starting point is 00:58:05 But let that be on your conscience. Again, on French TV, you... I think you asked too many questions. No, I can ask one more question. That's my right. Again, on French TV, you clearly stated or you denied the fact that you supported military intervention.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Yes, I do. I did. Of course I did. You denied the fact... Can you please let me ask my question? You denied the fact that you support military intervention. Now, again, you legitimized
Starting point is 00:58:29 the military intervention. I have another question. Your wife has, in the past, shared a post with a poster that says death to the left. Do you distance yourself from the sentiment? Is that according to your own values? Ooh.
Starting point is 00:58:44 First of all, you don't get to decide whether a journalist is asking too many questions. But aside from that, didn't know that about his wife, certainly didn't know that about his wife. Now, he made excuses for his wife, her name's Yasmin, claiming that she was heckled by protesters in France during the women-life freedom marches last year. But her death to leftist post was on social media. So you shouldn't be calling for death toward anybody, especially as someone who's seeking to be a puppet leader of a sovereign country, who's going to bring forth democracy. Get out of here, please.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Finally, Palavu was asked about something that we all know to be true. Let's watch. We can see outside that you're here with the help of the lobby group Europe Israel Press Association. The Israeli government supports you taking over in Iran and the same government. That's the same government that started a war of aggression against your country with the U.S. So many people around the world think that you are an Israeli asset. Are you? Of course not.
Starting point is 00:59:58 But I'm a friend to Israel and the Jews. and Jews have a biblical relationship. In fact, the only two countries that can claim that. In modern history, Iran wasn't the only country in the Middle East that harbored Jews that were escaping
Starting point is 01:00:14 Hitler and his regime, and were given refuge in Iran. That's part of our history. That's part of our tradition of harboring persecuted people. Jews in Iran were free to practice their faith before the
Starting point is 01:00:31 revolution. Jews in Iran are free to practice their faith today. How do I know that? Because Israel bombed a synagogue. This wasn't some underground basement, you know, where Jews were secretly gathering to secretly practice their faith. It was a literal synagogue. There are Armenian churches in Iran where Armenian Christians practice their
Starting point is 01:01:03 faith. So let's get back to that synagogue that was bombed in Iran and destroyed, by the way, just totally leveled. Let's talk about that. An Israeli airstrike had completely destroyed the Rafinia synagogue in central Tehran. The Israeli army described the destruction as collateral damage from a strike targeting a commander. But members of the Jewish community expressed anger an outrage. Really, there was an Iranian commander hiding out in the Jewish synagogue. Is anyone really going to believe it? And then they call it collateral damage. Is anyone really diluting themselves into thinking Israel gives a damn about anyone, including Jewish people, if they don't believe in Zionism?
Starting point is 01:01:57 Homayune Sameh, a member of parliament and the head of the Jewish Association of Iran, Iran. Yeah, you heard that right. They have something in Iran called the Jewish Association of Iran. In fact, Iran has the second largest Jewish population in the Middle East, second to Israel, of course. Here's what Hamayun Sameh had to say. We condemn this attack. It disrespects our faith. Iran's Jewish community doesn't have good relations with Zionist Israeli government, clearly, clearly. Because Israel, was willing to bomb a synagogue and use the same pathetic lie and excuse that they use for the hospitals they bomb in other countries in Palestinian territory. There was one terrorist there. There was a there was a commander. Sure, sure there was. All right, I should probably take a break. But you know what? When we come back, Waz joins us. We're going to talk about a debate that took place on Pierce Morgan show. It's going to be great. You don't want to miss it. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? Rich and powerful men abusing, assaulting, and abandoning young women. These rich and powerful men donate to the politicians in Washington, D.C., play golf with the elites in Washington, D.C. They are foreign leaders who we don't want to offend. interact with our intelligence agencies that we don't want to disobey. There is something rotten in Washington. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? All those congressmen you just saw there are on the record as protecting the child rapists
Starting point is 01:03:53 who were clients of Epstein. They have not prosecuted a single person outside of Epstein and Maxwell. Yep. Not one. Is Trump engaging in this cover up because he's in the Epstein files? I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody. It's pretty boring stuff. So as the government keeps selling us, yeah, there's other people.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Yeah, they rape those girls. So what? We're going to cover up for them. Why are you guys so mad? A nation that chooses impunity for the rich and the powerful at the expense of our children is a nation that has lost its moral purpose. Are you on the side of the people? Are you on the side of America's children?
Starting point is 01:04:35 on the side of the rich and powerful who've had their thumb on the scales and shifted Americans for decades. The rest of the news media says you should not fight for positive change. If you do, you're not really a reporter or a journalist because reporters and journalists don't care what happens. I don't agree. That's not written anywhere. That's not a law. It's just a rule that they invented so that reporters didn't actually challenge the people that are in power. Well, we don't agree with that. We think we should challenge people in power, that that actually makes you a better journalist, not a worse one.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Who do you guys use? We have AT&T. And how much do you pay per month? 3.45 and that includes a company discount. How many people? Five phones. $70 a line, right? I've started a wireless company called Noble Mobile that is trying to cut everyone's bills in half.
Starting point is 01:05:37 What would, like, a family of four costs? The average Noble mobile user is paying 42 a month, but also they're using their smartphone 17% less. Okay. How's that work out? We give you $20 back in cash every month based upon how much data you use or don't use. You know when you're doom scrolling or messing around on your phone, you're like, oh, wait, I'm actually costing myself money right now.
Starting point is 01:06:01 The goal with Noble Mobile is to encourage us to look up at our children's lovely faces, like touch grass, appreciate life. A friend of mine calls these things are rectangles of sadness. So we're trying to change that and improve everyone's relationships with their phones. It's a very noble cause. Well, thank you, sir. That's what he is.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Been on YouTube for 20 years. The original political partner on YouTube, The Young Turks, the Young Turks, the Young Turks. Godfather of independent media. Favorite news platform by far. Oh, it's not even close. The Young Turks, it's the largest online news show in the world. I watched you guys before I had a channel at all. And I watched Jenks, so Jenks really the start of it all.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Big shout out to Cheng from Young Turks. Jenk Yugar, founder of TYT, a man who probably needs no introduction. Jenk, it's so great to talk to you. Great to talk to you, David. San, you worked for a long time, man. Anna Kasparian is one of the most followed and influential progressive women online. I love Anna. Your presence has been essential for me to really grow.
Starting point is 01:07:01 To all of you know the young Turks, this is why what young Turks are doing is so important. I've watched you for many years. You are insightful. I thank you for that. I was going to introduce myself, but it's just to do you. But it sounds like you guys might know. I can't stand these young people. Get them out of here.
Starting point is 01:07:24 What are you guys putting on here today? It feels good, Waz. Wasni Lombrei joins us to take a little bit of the pressure off me for a minute. Okay, to hear from a different voice on the show today. Because, man, we've got a lot to get to, a lot of video that I can't wait to hear your thoughts on. How are you doing? I'm doing fantastic. Super happy to be back on with you guys.
Starting point is 01:07:58 It's been a minute. It has been a minute, but I'm glad to have you. And, you know, I don't think you and I have had an opportunity to talk about the whole Joe Kent resignation story. But we will now because he just had a debate on Pierce Morgan uncensored. I got to be honest, I didn't think he brought his A game. He did make some good points. But his debate was against Alan Dershowitz. So let's get into it.
Starting point is 01:08:23 I should be allowed to use that phrase without you calling me anti-summissing. Alan, Alan, it actually depends if people are actually pulling strings. And I do think that in Yahoo's been doing that. Let me bring in Joe Ken. I mean, Joe Ken, this is one of the more unsavory. Well, I'll use the term I feel is appropriate. Joe Ken, I mean, this idea. Fine, and I'll criticize you for it.
Starting point is 01:08:45 And I'll criticize you for it. You can say what you want and I can say what I want. Oh, no. Alan Dershowitz might criticize Pierce Morgan for using the phrase pulling the strings. What is he going to do? By the way, Alan Dershowitz made like this big deal and huge announcement about how he's no longer a registered Democrat because Democrats aren't friendly enough to Israel. He's going to try to help the Republicans now. Was.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Democrats are like, thank you. Thank you for that. It's kind of crazy that this guy hasn't been completely and wholly discredited at this point. I get that Pierce is putting on an entertainment product to a certain extent. as much as he's delivering the news to people. But the Dersh is just so, he's been so thoroughly discredited. It's kind of laughable. Dersh can't find the camera if his life depended on it.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Okay, he's always looking up to the side. It's so entertaining. Okay. So the whole point of this gathering on Pierce Morgan uncensored was to have Alan Dershowitz, notorious Epstein lawyer, defense attorney, debating Joe Kent, who, step down from the Trump administration. He is now the former director of national counterterrorism. And look, I felt Joe Ken is very mild-mannered, and I'm just going to keep it real with you guys. At the end of the day, he's not anti-Israel, right? Like, he still says things that are like semi-supportive of
Starting point is 01:10:23 Israel. And so I think that puts him at a disadvantage in a debate like this, because Alan Dershowitz is clearly a zealot in favor of Israel. However, Much of the time Pierce was actually debating Dershowitz. But let's actually begin with Dershowitz's pretty insane claim that the majority of Americans are just anti-Semitic. Well, popular support for Israel is plummeting in the U.S. A fact borne out by poll after poll. More Americans now sympathize with the Palestinians than they do with Israelis for the first time in history. And support is falling across all age groups and all political affiliations.
Starting point is 01:10:56 You mentioned, by the way, that so many Americans are pro-Palestinians. And let's be very clear. Very few people really are pro-Palestinian. They're anti-Israel. If they were pro-Palestinian, they would also be supporting the Kurds, the Ughurs, they would be supporting the Sudanese. They would be supporting the Ukrainians. You don't have demonstrations on university campuses in favor of these other oppressed groups
Starting point is 01:11:20 only for the Palestinians, not because of who they are, but because of who allegedly oppresses them, namely the nation-state of the Jewish people. So it's another manifestation of the increasing worldwide anti-Semitism. And I'm going to fight against that. You know, considering the fact that Americans had to fork over literally hundreds of billions of dollars for Ukraine's defense against Russia, I would say that it is literally one of the craziest things to claim that Americans didn't care about the Ukrainians, that they didn't, you know, give a damn about that. I mean, the problem with Israel is that Israel is the bad guy. I know it's hard for him to understand that, but they're the bad ones in this whole scenario.
Starting point is 01:12:11 But maybe my perspective is off. What do you think, Was? I mean, no, your perspective isn't off. Like, first of all, to address Ukraine, the way that he's so wrong is just insane and laughable. Like, do people not remember the Ukrainian flags everywhere when that war? more first start, like everywhere these flags were. These are not Ukrainians like in solidarity with their, you know, their countrymen. It's like everyday Americans, liberals, just in solidarity with Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:12:47 And what I would say to him about the Uighurs or the Kurds or the Sudanese is that America isn't directly implicated in aiding and abetting their repression. it. And Americans did speak out against that. But again, the reason why it didn't blow up the way protests against Israel blew up is because our government is joined at the hip with Israel. So we're not just implicated, we're not just complicit. We are funding the atrocities. We are very much part of carrying out the atrocities. Sorry to interrupt you. Continue. No, but that's, I mean, that's a, that's a huge difference, right? Like, even with the Sudan thing, you say, see people, or at least I do, maybe I just know people were just too freaking woke for their own good, right?
Starting point is 01:13:36 But not in this case, but you know what I mean? People saying that, yo, the UAE needs to be held accountable. Yes. What's happening in Sudan? The UAE is a disgusting entity for their part in what's going on in Sudan. Like this idea that people just, they're just picking on the Jews. They're just picking on the Jews. It's like, guys, like, nobody gets deported because they diss the Saudi government or the
Starting point is 01:14:01 Emirati government. Nobody gets, you know, kicked out of school. Nobody gets denied employment. Nobody has these things happen to them because they diss any other foreign nation's actions. Exactly. There's only one foreign nation who is privileged in that way. Like if you want, like he had issues with Pierce Morgan State strings are being pulled. I'm like, what do you call that? Okay, we're going to get to that hold because that whole exchange was just out of control. But just I want everyone to really absorb the fact that Alan Dershowitz just called the majority of Americans Jew haters. That's what he did.
Starting point is 01:14:46 So aside from smearing Americans and admitting that the Israelis have been oppressing Palestinians, I mean, he said allegedly, but come on. Dershowitz made sure to engage in the language policing. that was just referenced. So buckle up for this. One of the reasons I think that Israel's been getting increasingly unpopular is because anyone that dares to criticize the Israeli government, and I stand by my suggestion that Benjamin Netanyahu has been pulling some strings with Trump because he managed to persuade the fourth American president. Well, let me finish my point. And I think I should be allowed to use that phrase. I should be allowed to use that phrase without you calling me anti-semitic.
Starting point is 01:15:29 I think you know I'm not anti-Semitic. By the way, I would never call you anti-Semitic. You're a friend of the Jews, you're a friend of Israel. What I'm telling you is something historical, that the phrase pulling the strings is a trope, and it shouldn't be used. And I wish you would use other terms. Put pressure, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Pulling the strings, right, you know, having a puppet, that should not be permitted. And look, I like you very much, and I support you all the time, but I criticize you for using that term. Please don't use that term. It's historic. It reminds too much of what other people who have different motives would say.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Alan, Alan, it actually depends if people are actually pulling strings. And I do think that in Yahoo's been doing that. I can't tell you how much language policing gets under my skin. Because I think it's used as a distraction tactic. So you're not focusing on the substance of an argument that actually matters. And instead, you're just talking about semantics and what's offensive and what is an offensive. in terms of word usage. You know, recently I kind of got into it with a woman who was triggered because I said
Starting point is 01:16:40 undocumented immigrants instead of illegal aliens. She kept saying illegal aliens and like I didn't get on her case about it because it's like, okay, whatever. I want to focus on the substance. But then she kept interrupting me because she's like, is it undocumented or illegal? And it's like, shut. Anyway. And Pierce stayed calmer than I probably.
Starting point is 01:17:01 whatever in that situation. But like, I'm sorry just because you have determined or you have declared that a certain phrase or word is a trope doesn't mean that the statement that Pierce Morgan is making is untrue. Yeah, but you know, at a certain point I feel sorry for these guys because that rhetorical trick has worked for so long. It's worked for decades in in terms of gleasing the exact parameters of the discourse. Like they've been able to basically dictate how you talk about Israel, like at every single turn until very, very recently. So, you know, that whole, hmm, you know, when they're like, you only have a problem with the one Jewish state. Or the like they use these tricks that they've always used to be like any any
Starting point is 01:17:56 criticism of a freaking government a state a regime like we're not even talking about Israelis we're talking about the Israeli government and the actions that it's carried out and they say it's on behalf of their citizens like we're talking about a state Like, I don't agree with what Donald Trump is doing in Iran, him and his regime, what the American state is doing. That does not make me anti-American. I love Anna. She's an American. I love myself.
Starting point is 01:18:31 I'm in America. Like, it just doesn't compute at all. It makes no sense. It makes no sense. I've been critical of the Armenian government lately. Am I an Armenian hater? Do I hate Armenia? No. But I don't agree with some of the decisions
Starting point is 01:18:50 that the Armenian government has been making. Namely, their thirst in making business ties with Israel. Are you guys high? Are you guys high? Israel armed Azerbaijan to ethnically cleanse Armenians in Nagorno-Karabok. What are you doing? But anyway, we're not talking about Armenia right now.
Starting point is 01:19:09 By the way, tomorrow is the day that Armenians mourn the Armenian genocide, April 24th, every year Armenians mourn the Armenian genocide. And yeah, I mean, Azerbaijan carrying out atrocities against Armenians with Israeli weapons, something that, you know, the Armenian government should be thinking about as it's trying to forge business relationships with Israel. Anyway, moving on. So Dershowitz seems to take issue with reality, which he totally denies. He denies that Israel has outsized influence over the United States. And honestly, at this point, I don't know how anyone can say that with a straight face,
Starting point is 01:19:52 but Dershowitz certainly tries. So what's his counter argument to the fact that Israel has an outsized influence on the U.S.? Take a look. That's the oldest anti-Semitic trope in history that Israel is pulling that the Jews are pulling the strings. Nobody tells Trump what to do. Trump decides what to do. What Israel said and what the United States together said is we have intelligence that all these people are meeting in the same place. So this is the time to do it.
Starting point is 01:20:24 But the United States and Donald Trump did not start a war based on Israel's interests. They started a war based on American interests. So what I witnessed over the last year was official engagements from members of Benjamin Netanyahu. government, the Israeli government, come and have official engagements with members of our government and say things like Iran can't have any enrichment. The policy has to be zero enrichment, when, in fact, President Trump had just said the policy was no nuclear weapon. And you'll see President Trump echo that in his talking points now. And the former Supreme Leader, before we killed him, agreed with that. And that got both President Trump and the Supreme Leader to the negotiating table.
Starting point is 01:21:02 And so for almost a year, we saw constructive negotiations between us and the Iranian government. This was a direct threat to the Israelis. The Israelis told us this much. The Mossad director, David Bernay, specifically said that their goal was regime change in Iran. So this is the moment where I think Joe Kent's contribution to the conversation was really, really important. Because what you'll hear over and over again from Israel's defenders is that, no, no, no, no, Israel does not have an outsized influence on our government. And here you have Joe Kent, who until like yesterday, was part of the federal government under the Trump administration. and saw firsthand what that outsized influence looks like.
Starting point is 01:21:43 And so we're going to go to the second half of what he had to say because I thought it was important for the audience to hear it. But before we do, your thoughts was. Again, like just reality has to set in at some point when you consider, you know, our partners out in East Asia, like Japan and South Korea, like vital partners in allies. economically. When you talk about like U.S. economic interests, which we claim to care about more than anything, Japan and South Korea are number one and number two up there. And you can bunch in Taiwan in terms of our economic interests. We're literally taking weapons. I know. That they could be using in potential their defense against China. We claim is the next big boogeyman so that we could do adventure military adventurism out in Iran, a country again
Starting point is 01:22:46 that poses no threat to us in a region of the world that we have no vital economic interest. We have oil here in America. We're net exporters. We don't need their stuff anymore. And so this idea that it's not, and you know, part of it is like the old geriatric sort of leadership structure in America. These guys do have a certain attachment to the Middle East on their own. And yes, Israel is, and their leaders play on that prior attachment and their biased towards
Starting point is 01:23:20 antagonism towards Iran. Of course, that matters. But to say that Israel plays no part in this is absolutely nuts when Iran is a threat to them, not us. Right. And Iran is a threat to them if. They encroach on their neighbors' territory. Right?
Starting point is 01:23:42 It's not like Iran is like, oh, it's Tuesday, 5 p.m. Let's attack Israel. No, that's not what happens. Okay, but Israel wants to go unchallenged as it seeks to expand its borders. And, you know, another way that we're screwing over our allies or Asian allies, right? Japan, South Korea is this war has increased oil prices. And they are struggling way more than we don't. have oil over there. Exactly. Yeah. It's pretty bad. It's laughable. Just the notion and again,
Starting point is 01:24:17 and our friend Danny Bessner, like, he points it out, there's, you know, there's several spokes on the wheel. It's not just Israel and the Israel lobby. There's just a institutional memory when it comes to the Iranians and, you know, the guys that they helped out during the Iraq war, the hostages. I know with Trump, like the memory of the hostages and that humiliation looms quite large, which, okay, we're allowed to have that institutional memory, but, you know, the Iranians are supposed to forget about the Iran-Iraq war where we gave Saddam the weapons and the go-head, gave him chemical weapons to use against Iranians. Like, they're supposed to just be like, no, we love the U.S. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You want to talk about humiliation. Israel humiliates us
Starting point is 01:25:03 every single day. You want to talk about humiliation when the president of the United States is bent over ready to take it from Israel? Every day, every day. Doesn't even need loop, ready for it. That's humiliation. That's humiliation. Okay, let's go to the last video. This is where I think Joe Kent did a really good job discussing the clear differences between U.S. and Israeli objectives as it pertains to the war in Iran. Their goal was regime change in Iran. They weren't very shy about that whatsoever. And so they used their access through official channels to official through official channels
Starting point is 01:25:42 to circumvent the intelligence community because any time that the Israelis said the Iranians are two weeks away from a nuclear weapon, they're making a nuclear weapon, the U.S. intelligence community, we would go and we would do our due diligence. We would check that and we would find that the Iranian internal prohibition on developing a nuclear weapon was still holding. As a matter of fact, the Iranians were also withholding their proxies from attacking us as well. That's what the U.S. intelligence community agreed on. D&I Gabbard testified to that publicly twice in front of Congress.
Starting point is 01:26:10 The Israelis, though, used their influence to circumvent the intelligence channels. And then they also had their surrogates within the media come and echo to President Trump via Fox News, the Wall Street Journal, the Foundation for the Defense Democracies, and say, hey, the red line is zero enrichment. And they said it enough, they made it repetitive enough through multiple avenues that President Trump was led to believe that his red line has to be zero enrichment. So two things are revealed in what Joe Kent said there. Number one, again, the outsized influence of the Israeli government on our government and on our foreign policy. And number two, the United States and Israel do not share the same objectives. They just don't. And so we don't have the same problems. We don't. It's just the truth. It's just the truth. Judaism has nothing to do. Like with this. this at all, right? It doesn't enter into this equation at all. This is not about identity. This is about governments. This is about questions of war and peace. This is a question about power.
Starting point is 01:27:15 And Israel looks at, well, the former wealth of the United States, its military might, and thinks we got to use that to our advantage, even if it's at the detriment of the American people. Who cares about the American people, right? But what's so embarrassing, just to go back to that question, of humiliation is that our government has been horish enough to be bought and manipulated by a foreign country to carry out actions in foreign policy that it does not benefit the American people. In fact, works against the best interests of the American people. That's the humiliation.
Starting point is 01:27:52 And people got to understand that Israel needs us to, one, be in conflict with Iran, but Iran to be just isolated on the world stage so that they're weakened and can't have a say in what goes down in the region, right? Like if Israel was just cool with like, you know, their borders staying as they are, and I'm not talking about, you know, them encroaching into Lebanon and all this other stuff. But to just remain as it was. And Iran normalizes relationships with the U.S. and the Gulf states and, you know, we basically maintain an orderly peace. That would mean if they normalize relationships with America, the Iranians, that would mean when Israel, you know, acted out in the region.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Iran could have a say in America would be like, yo, like, they kind of have a point. We're boys with them now. Like, they don't want that. They can't have that because, you know, like all things being equal, they didn't have the big brother of America to help them out. They would be a very minor player within the region. They couldn't just unilaterally decide to expand borders and, you know, bomb hospitals and children at school and all of that stuff.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Because there's a real actual regional power that would be a check on their belligerence. And they just can't abide by that. And so they need this war between us and Iran. And for anyone who's under the impression that there's no way that Israel, or the United States can have diplomatic ties with Iran, given their religious extremism, look up Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia, because that's a little more extreme than what's practiced by the IRGC. I mean, and by the way, we have, I mean, we have relations with Saudi Arabia, right? It's the whole religious extremism angle, that argument, is BS.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Anna, we fixed our relationship with Japan, who we dropped. We went to. to World War II against and dropped two atomic bombs against. I know, yeah. And this idea that neighbors can't, I'm like, I don't know, France and England and Germany figured it out. Why can't y'all? It seems pretty simple to me. Like, but we have to believe that these are just different, more evil, more sinister brands
Starting point is 01:30:21 of human beings that can't, could possibly behave rationally and come on one accord with us. It just, it doesn't make any sense. Like our own human history shows us that there's another way. I 100% agree with you. All right, we got to take a break. When we come back, I want to talk a little bit about all of this urging of toward Americans to just, you know, do a special operation. Just get that in rich uranium. That's all we want.
Starting point is 01:30:50 We want that in rich uranium. Well, I've got an answer to that. So we've got that and more coming up. Don't miss it. What's up, everyone? Welcome back to our social break. Pakistani-American Hoc Sentinel writes in again. It says Dan,
Starting point is 01:31:26 meaning Dan Bilzerian, is right about Randy Fine being a certified traitor. I mean, I agree with him on that. The thing about Dan Bilzarian is he is right about Israel. I do not like his rhetoric about Jewish people. We differ on that. And so I think it's going to hurt him as he seeks a seat in Congress. But I'm sure he'll disagree with me on that.
Starting point is 01:31:49 We'll see. But let me give you the rest of his statement. The dudes, so guilty meaning Randy Fine, his shadow needs a lawyer. The dangling part is slight problem. He would definitely collapse the whole stage like a comedic sketch. Send him to Tel Aviv via air and rest depend on, and the rest depends on the gravity. All right, Callie Millie writes in and says for Anna's Freedom of Speech Fund. Thank you, Callie Millie. I appreciate that. Joe Winterton writes in and says, I'd buy some flowers for you, but I bet you would do an amazing job. Hell, I've never been given flowers.
Starting point is 01:32:25 It would be a nice gift to myself. Joe, buy yourself some flowers. I actually buy myself flowers weekly. I like flowers in the house. It is what it is. Just liven things up a little bit. Anisa Buk writes in and says, Israel doesn't care about American citizens because they think the majority of us are
Starting point is 01:32:42 anti-Semitic. So they'll happily take our money and not G-A-F about what happens to us. I mean, I think that's pretty much proven at this point. So I agree wholeheartedly. Let's get back to the show. DJ Payne in our super chat says that Dersh needs to make a dental appointment. I just think he needs help finding where the lens is. Okay?
Starting point is 01:33:27 Like you got to find the lens, dude. Can you imagine if I just did the show like this the whole time? Just look it off to the side. Callie Millie says, appreciate the segment distinguishing the monarchists and shining light on little known facts about Iran. Iranians who disagree with the exiles are a silent majority to avoid being targeted like Mahmoud Khalil. I bet.
Starting point is 01:33:51 I mean, the media is so crazy because if you just focus on how the Iranian diaspora is reported on in legacy media, corporate media, you would think that they're all monarchists, but nothing could be further from the truth. And the part of the diaspora that doesn't like the regime, but they're not monarchists or the part that doesn't want to go to war with Iran, those voices have not been represented at all in our media. And that's wrong. So anyway, let's get to our next story. Let's talk a little bit about this guy. We got to know exactly where the nuclear stuff is. We got to know where the uranium is. And we got to start. I'm sure they are. We're going in there and getting it because regime change or not, that uranium has to be taken out.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Because that will always be over our heads forever. I personally don't feel that Iran's enriched uranium is hanging over my head. I don't lie awake at night, scared that they're going to nuke me at any minute. However, the gentleman you just heard from was Habad of Bel Air Rabbi Heim Menz, basically demanding that the United States not only continue its war against Iran, but go in, meaning put our troops on the ground to extract Iran's enriched uranium. I have something else in mind, but before we get to that, Was, your thoughts? I think, look, man, and people can say what they want, like with the case that the pro-Israel people are trying to make.
Starting point is 01:35:37 But having that dude with that accent make the case, I don't think is helping. I'm just saying, man. Honestly, he could be the most like clean cut Americanized person on the planet. I mean, he could look like Joe Kent and make the same argument. No, what I mean is he's got an Upper West Side accent. It's just what I'm trying to say. I'm not from New York, so I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 01:36:06 We need to go and get the uranium because it's just like, bro. Like, nobody's going to be convinced of that. Especially because the people who wanted to allegedly care about that. And I don't even think they really do care about it. Are the Israelis? The other thing that I reject is this new frame that they're using that the Iranians can't have nuclear capabilities. But no, like, we're supposed to, we're just supposed to view Iran as the most insane phone. homing at the mouth, crazy death wish theocratic, cultist regime, when they've been the most rational
Starting point is 01:36:50 and basically tempered actors in this entire thing, the entire way. And that's before we even get into, you know, what happens to the countries that we don't like that don't have nukes? We've created the incentive structure. Yes. For the most sane thing for Iran to do is not only to get nukes, but to get them as quickly as possible. I mean, Turkey would be insane if they weren't currently trying to procure nukes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Because already you see Israel said you're next. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, I mean, if you are against nuclear proliferation, then everything that's been going down with the United States, its behavior, its alliance with Israel should concern you. because it is driving toward nuclear proliferation. Okay, so as I mentioned, I have something entirely different in mind when it comes to extracting the nuclear dust. Trump loves to call it nuclear dust. Anyway, so here's what I think should happen since I don't think Americans really care about
Starting point is 01:38:02 the enriched uranium. The majority of Americans don't care about Iran's enriched uranium. But the Israelis purport to. So here's what I think should happen. This whole notion of going in and getting the nuclear dust, as you know, Trump likes to call it. This is something that Benjamin Netanyahu has been fearmongering about for literally decades dating back to the 1980s. So I think the IDF should go in and get the nuclear dust. I think that's their job.
Starting point is 01:38:30 I don't think we should risk the lives of our American soldiers in doing that operation. Well, we will mean to see what happens if there is any attack by ground forces. I think it would be an extremely dangerous escalation if that were to happen. And once that kind of thing happens, very, very hard to control what then follows. I think the Iranians remain pretty heavily armed. You know, this has got a lot of ballistic missiles, a lot of stuff they have buried away, a lot of forces, it's dangerous. And I would not be comfortable, I have to say, seeing British forces committed to that on
Starting point is 01:39:06 the ground? I appreciate that we got that admission from Pierce Morgan, that he would not want British soldiers on the ground in Iran. And as an American, I wouldn't want our soldiers on the ground for something that the Israelis don't actually really care about. That was just the cover story to spur regime change, to spark a war and get regime change or a failed state in Iran so Israel can expand its borders. That's what Israel wants to do. Well, like, we're not stupid. We can see what's happening here. But I'm going to go to one more video from that whole exchange in a second because Josh Rogan, who's a Washington Post columnist, was part of the conversation. I really liked what he had to say as well. Let's just quickly
Starting point is 01:39:47 watch that, and then, Waz, I'll bring you in. We know they've got enriched uranium to over 60%. We know it's buried away. No one's quite sure where it is. And we know at the moment, it remains buried away. How do we get that without a ground force invasion? Without a ground force invasion, Well, I'd say with great difficulty, and here's something without saying too much, is one thing I do know. And you can probably find this open sort. Actually, I know you can, is that there are parts of the military that have been working this problem, this very problem for a very long time. How do we get at that nuclear dust that Trump keeps talking about if that's even possible? Well, there's only one way.
Starting point is 01:40:25 And that's through diplomacy and a negotiation. And if anyone thinks that anyone would be stupid enough to send American men and women into some, subterranean dungeon, which is heavily guarded by Iran's most elite forces to drag a thousand canisters of highly volatile nuclear material while having some sort of firefight. Like, I don't know what you're smoking or what movie you're watching, but that's not a real thing, despite the fact that, yes, some plan exists in some special forces vault somewhere. I have to say, I did not expect someone who knows what they're talking about to be on the panel, but that was Josh Rogan.
Starting point is 01:41:02 He's awesome. And I appreciate his contribution to the conversation. He's the author of Chaos Under Heaven. Was, your thoughts? Obviously, you would never hear anybody who's a supporter of this war, be like, yeah, Israel, the IDF should definitely, like, that's, I watch coverage of this thing, read stuff every day. I've never seen that suggested one time. Which, you know, you could draw whatever conclusions you want from that. And yeah, I just think people need to know that there is no, there's no solution to this war.
Starting point is 01:41:44 We can't win it. There's no, there's no strategy. There's no weapons that we can deploy. We've already basically, we've used every single weapon in our arsenal. Except for use. Nuclear. literally everything we have and the kitchen sink has been thrown at this problem. Iran still can strike our allies.
Starting point is 01:42:10 And basically, again, when Trump made his, what was essentially a nuclear threat a week ago, a week and a half ago, the Iranians are like, we will literally blow up the entire world economy. We will blow it up. You can nuke us. We will still be able to blow it. up the entire world economy. And they're just explaining to you, like, we're going to destroy the entire golf region. Like, they're completely defenses because obviously we're using all of our defenses on behalf
Starting point is 01:42:41 of Israel, not our golf partners, which I just think, I'm sorry, that's so funny to be because these guys have like, not for the people, of course. I'm just saying they're leaders who have been in lockstep with the U.S. and Israel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We love all of this stuff. We hate Iran. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it's like when push came the shove, they just got left completely in the dust and out in the cold.
Starting point is 01:43:02 But yeah, there's no, there is no resolution that isn't a long-term peace. It doesn't exist, guys. I totally agree with you. And the Wall Street Journal put out a report today about just how much of our weaponry has been depleted. Not just from this war, but remember, guys, we've been arming Ukraine, we've been army Israel. And so 80% of our interceptors gone and they're not easy to reproduce. So that's not good for us. Two and a half months of this.
Starting point is 01:43:39 We're down 80%. Thank God we spent a trillion a year on military stuff, huh? Soon to be $1.5 trillion. And if Trump gets his way. The Iranians are using these cheap-ass drones and just like, yeah. It's tough. It's tough as an American taxpayer, honestly. It sure is. It sure is. All right. We're going to take our final break. Get that out of the way.
Starting point is 01:44:05 When we come back, I can't, I literally couldn't believe this headline when I saw it. But it's true. There are divisions among Republicans in the House of Representatives in regard to whether or not President Donald Trump should pardon. Galane Maxwell. Come right back. Welcome to all our new members. That includes David Caballero, Bobby Work, Sabrina 3755, Tracy Candelario. I like that name. Bromo Iburo. Awesome. Thank you so much for becoming members and supporting the show. I'm so grateful that I'm able to do the show that I do every day and not have to worry about, you know, some board member calling me into their office to tell me, like, you've been very nice. naughty or some sponsor telling me that they're, you know, going to drop us because I was too, you know, outspoken on something. Anyway, let's go to our member section where the truth dragon NJ.09 says, I'm so done with this. Thank you for your attention to this matter, want to be
Starting point is 01:45:39 British monarch nonsense. I agree. That like sign off is so cheesy. David Ryder says, make sure the flowers are sustainably harvested. Hell yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about. Of course. Of course. I do a lot of research on that. And yes, I care about that deeply. So try to stay away from Trader Joe's Flowers. I hate to say it, but look into it if you don't know what I'm talking about. Okay, John Kelly writes in and says, love shorter breaks. It makes me more likely to start the show right at 3 p.m. Rather than waiting a while so I can skip. T.YT. Salt Anna equals amazing. Thank you so much for the support. It took a little getting used to, but I think I like the shorter breaks as well. And I try to make sure that I read as many of your comments as I can, even after the social break.
Starting point is 01:46:24 So anyway, let's get back to the show. Welcome back to the show, Anna and Waas with you for our members. If I haven't read your comments yet, I'm going to try to read some of them during our bonus episode for our members. But I'm just going to read one comment right now from Randy Fine, ate my handle, who says, I'm so grateful for DropSight. I know one of my favorite places to go if I want to get new. especially when it comes to foreign policy. And TYT and independent media in general,
Starting point is 01:47:09 I see the stress on their faces and Anna still showing up to give us the actual facts. Thank you. Randy Fine ate my handle. Thank you for watching and more importantly for caring because what we do wouldn't matter if people didn't care about what we have to say and what we, the news we want to share with you. All right, so we're going to switch gears a little bit. I can't believe that this is a discussion or debate that's even taking place
Starting point is 01:47:33 in the halls of Congress. halls of Congress, but it is. We got to talk about the very real possibility that Trump is going to pardon Gielaine Maxwell and how some Republicans might agree with him on that. All right, let's get into it. So if you can believe it, and I had trouble doing so, but it's real, members of the House Oversight Committee are divided on whether or not President Donald Trump should pardon Delane Maxwell. You know, the woman who is a convicted sex trafficker, Epstein's co-conspirator, that Elaine Maxwell, the woman who was moved to a minimum security facility after Trump's
Starting point is 01:48:15 former personal lawyer, now acting attorney general Todd Blanche, had a meeting with her. Who knows what kind of deal was made during that meeting? We're not privy to it, but immediately afterwards, she was moved to that minimum security facility where she's now playing with puppies. Now Trump has famously not ruled out pardoning Maxwell. If you don't know what I'm talking about, this is a video from July of last year. Would you consider a pardon or a commutation for Geline Maxwell? It's something I haven't thought about. It's really something I'm allowed to do it, but it's something I have not thought about. I can't talk about that now because it's a very sensitive, uh,
Starting point is 01:48:58 interview going on. Can you trust what she's telling him? She's a convicted trafficker who's eager to get out of prison. Well, you know, he's a professional lawyer. I think he's been through things like this before. But, you know, you should focus on Clinton. So, Was, let's say you find yourself in a position where you are the president of the United States.
Starting point is 01:49:21 You find yourself in that position. Okay. And reporters keep asking you repeatedly whether you intend to pardon Gilain Maxwell. What would your answer be? Hell no. Hell no. F. No.
Starting point is 01:49:35 It would be no uncertain terms. Like she's a convicted, you know, sex trafficker of young people, of minors. Of minors, yes. And not only that, she did partake in abusing them. Yes. She took, she participated in their abuse. She didn't just traffic them that people who would abuse them.
Starting point is 01:49:57 She was an active, willing, participant in set abuse and the idea that you would pardon them or commute their sentence is despicable. And it begs the question, why would he do that? What do they have on him? Why would he do that? Exactly. Now, here's what's even more disturbing was. It turns out that Republican members of the House Oversight Committee, Democrats are all in agreement that she should not be pardoned. But the Republicans in House Oversight Committee are split on whether or not Donald Trump should pardon her, which makes me think, oh my God, how many people are implicated in the Epstein files? Like, what is going?
Starting point is 01:50:42 Like, if I were a member of Congress, there'd be no freaking question. No, of course not. I would not want the stench of providing cover and leniency to an abuser of minors like Galane Maxwell by saying, I don't know, maybe it would be a good idea to pardon her. What do they have on you? That's what I want to know. So, you know, earlier this week, we did cover how Maxwell's attorney, his name is David Oscar Marcus, felt that the chances of Maxwell getting a pardon pretty good, pretty good.
Starting point is 01:51:16 Given what we're now learning about the Republicans in the House Oversight Committee, apparently Marcus appears to be correct in his assertion. So in an interview with Politico that was published this week, oversight committee chair James Comer says the members are divided on the issue of pardoning Maxwell. Here's what he said. When asked whether he believed it was a favorable deal to issue a pardon in return for Maxwell's testimony, Comer said a lot of people do. Number one, why would anyone trust Galane Max?
Starting point is 01:51:50 who's a huge liar. But also on top of that, was we know that our DOJ has no interest in prosecuting anyone who's implicated in Epstein files. They've told us that over and over again. So her testimony wouldn't even come up because no one would be prosecuted. Like what are we talking about? If Galane, so how plea agreements and cooperation usually goes, It's like, all right, we have you dead to rights for one crime.
Starting point is 01:52:23 We'll show you leniency because you help us put away somebody we consider to be a quote unquote bigger fish. Are they y'all trying to tell me she's about to deliver some bigger fish? Of course not. That would mean actually powerful, influential people. We're about to be under prosecution by the American federal government. And we know that's not going to happen. So what is she doing? What is she doing that she's earned some level of pardoned or commuted sentence?
Starting point is 01:53:00 I like, like, where is it? Like aside from, oh, she's going to be quite about our guys. Yes. Yes. So Comer admitted the committee was split on the issue, but would not directly name who expressed support. which one of the Republicans in the House Oversight Committee expressed support for a pardon saying, get a little of this, I don't speak for my committee.
Starting point is 01:53:26 You don't? Okay. I mean, I get what he's trying to say, but I would have worded it a little differently because you do speak for your committee. In fact, you were speaking for your committee, but you don't want to speak on behalf of the perverts who, you know, want to consider pardoning her because they're worried potentially about their own. wrongdoings coming out. That's what I think is going on here. That's my speculation. I want to be clear about that. So Cobur claims that he's against the pardon saying that it looks bad, you think. He told Politico the following. Honestly, other than Epstein, the worst person in this whole investigation is Maxwell. Good job, Sherlock. Good job. He's really nailing it. And it could be
Starting point is 01:54:12 because Trump, a long time Epstein associate, you know, will probably carry out this pardon. And maybe Comer's worried that it's going to be a bad look for him personally as a supporter of Trump and his agenda to, you know, be associated with Trump as Trump carries out a pardon. And as we all know, Republican lawmakers are pretty terrified of speaking out against Trump. They're worried that Trump is going to direct his ire at them, much like he did with Marjorie Taylor Green. But I actually want to ask you a little more about this because I think that times are changing. And I think a lot of Trump's base has left. Right?
Starting point is 01:54:52 Like you could look at these ridiculous polls. Like, oh, 100% of MAGA supports the war in Iran. Yeah, but those are people who still identify as MAGA, but a lot of people who voted for Trump, Republican voters, who voted from three times, have defected because he ended up being everything that they wanted to avoid. You know. I wonder, you know, I think there's something to the idea that Trump's political power within the Republican coalition is weakened.
Starting point is 01:55:27 I think there's something to that. But the Republican Party as an apparatus just kind of doesn't exist outside of him. So you can say Trump is weaker, but there's no counterbacker. balancing weight to sort of beat him on its own. So even a weakened Trump is still mightier than anything the Republicans can mount against it. And so it's still like kind of bad math as a Republican to go against the guy and still remain Republican. Like you just, there's like, especially you as an individual Congress critter, you know, like, it's hard
Starting point is 01:56:10 to envision that some little, you know, dude in Kentucky is going to be able to say, you know what? I can withstand the wrath of Donald Trump and the money that he can command to go against me and the power structures that he
Starting point is 01:56:26 can nudge in a direction. Like Thomas Massey? I mean, Thomas Massey seems to be the only one because his district just loves him, but most of these guys don't have that rock solid actual voter support. Most of these guys guys are in their seats because there's an R next to their name.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Yes. And nothing else. You're so right about that. You're so right about that. Because with Thomas Massey, he has made a name for himself as being principled, as being an honest. I mean, look, I don't agree with a lot of his political views. I agree with him when it comes to Israel, that's for sure. But the reason why his base loves him so much and they're so loyal to him is because
Starting point is 01:57:06 he's not all talk. And he's willing to like walk through. fire as he did with the fight over the Epstein files in order to carry out what he said he was going to carry out for his voters. And I respect that. I really do. Because that's what Congress is supposed to be, right? Congress is supposed to represent the will of the people. And we don't really see much of that. So you're absolutely right about the other Republicans. They are far more vulnerable than someone like Thomas Massey, who's beloved by his- Even Marjorie Taylor Green, who was an insane. insanely good fundraiser, insanely great name recognition.
Starting point is 01:57:45 Small dollar. Yes. Small dollar fundraising. That means individuals are like, I love her and I'm going to send her money. She, you know, her campaign for sending God deep. Trump and him was like, nah, we're not backing that. And she had to just straight up just quit. And she's somebody with name recognition money, like, influke, not if she can influence.
Starting point is 01:58:09 people to fundraise, but like she's, she's at the top of the stack of Congress people. And she had to bow down. She just imagine. I don't think she had to. I think she could have stayed in her seat. She could have continued to be. She could have stayed in her seat for sure. Yeah. But she had, you know, she wanted, she claimed she stepped down specifically because she feared for her family. And I can believe that. But if she chose to fight, which I kind of wish that she did, I think she could have easily remained in that seat. And who knows? Maybe that would have been a little bit, it might have been inspiration for some of these mealy mouth pathetic Republicans who are now musing the possibility of supporting Trump after he pardons. Galane Maxwell. Imagine how embarrassed. Like, you are a disgrace.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Like, I can't imagine you being a family member of mine. Imagine having a parent that's on the record supporting Trump pardoning a serial sex trafficker and abuser of minors. Oh my gosh. J.D. Vance, good luck. Oh, my goodness. Not good luck. Goodbye. He's done. Like, how do you run behind this stuff, right? Like, you see how they tied like Kamala. They tied Biden's record around Kamala's neck during the campaign. Yep. Which I get it. It was completely fair. Oh, my goodness. The crow this guy has. has to eat on the way to this presidency that's never going to happen for him. Wow. By the way.
Starting point is 01:59:44 You throw your boss part in a child predator. Well, it hasn't happened yet. It hasn't happened yet, but there's some likelihood that it will happen. I mean, Trump hasn't poured any cold water on the notion. So, but with J.D. Vance, we might dodge a huge bullet because this is the guy. Remember, he's on the record saying, I am a post-liberal Republican, meaning he does not believe in liberal democracy. Not good. Not good. All right. So blame for the administration's handling of the Epstein documents was laid at the feet of the former attorney general Pam Bondi. And look, she did bungle it.
Starting point is 02:00:24 She's a total clown. There's no question about that. But some speculate that the real person running interference on the Epstein files wasn't Bondi, but it was actually Trump himself. To which I say, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was obviously Donald Trump. It was clearly Donald Trump. I actually think Bondi was okay with releasing the files. And then she realized, oh, this guy that I admire so much is implicated. So as soon as Trump got inaugurated, we read the stories about how the FBI was working around the clock to redact Trump's name specifically from the files, which is insane. And so we're just going to have to wait and see what happens. But meanwhile, I just want to remind you all that Democrats serving on this committee were unified in.
Starting point is 02:01:08 being against the pardoning of Galane Maxwell, she should serve out the rest of her sentence. Okay, 20-year sentence, she's not even really in prison. She's playing with puppies in a place that she doesn't belong in any way. And, you know, the injustice of that alone is pretty disgusting. All right, I'm going to read a few comments, and then we'll wrap it up and move on over to our bonus episode, our post game for our members, t.yt.com slash join to become a member.
Starting point is 02:01:35 DJ Payne says this debacle is really going to tank Trump, in the polls. If he thought he was underwater now, he will literally throw away his presidency in the trash if he pardons this animal. I agree with you on that. I mean, my mind wanders back to Q. Remember Q1? Okay, first of all, they weren't quite right, but they were definitely onto something, okay? It just turns out that they were focusing on the wrong people. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't, it turns out it wasn't way. Fair, it was Donald Trump and Leon Black and all of these people. Les Wexner. Yeah. Yeah. And I just love the idea that Q&N is like, yeah, it's just, it's only Democrats.
Starting point is 02:02:27 It's freaking Tom Hanks. Remember Tom Hanks was one of the targets of QAnon? Okay. So a few more comments. This is from our Twitch community. Wildcard says he's doing it because he's compromised. I agree. That's my speculation as well. Shea 70 says Trump is an instrument of divine will and he's stopped 24 wars. I know you're being sarcastic, but it's really funny to read that. RSDJ1 says, at this point, another nation needs to do a police arrest mission and just take Trump like he did in Venezuela. That'll make him a sympathetic figure to Americans who are against him right now. So let's not do that.
Starting point is 02:03:06 I think that we should invoke the 25th Amendment. This guy is a huge threat to the future of this country. And I'm not just saying that because of his political ideology. He has lost his mind. All right, bonus episode is next. TYT.com slash join. We'll see you there.

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