The Young Turks - Carlson Claps Back - September 24, 2025

Episode Date: September 25, 2025

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You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Welcome to TYT. I'm your host, Anna Casparian, and as always, we've got a massive show ahead for you all today. We're gonna talk a little bit about Tucker Carlson's response to all of the weird backlash he's been getting over his speech at Charlie Kirk's Memorial. There are some ridiculous and spurious claims of anti-Semitism baked into his speech. We're going to talk about whether or not there's any truth to that. We're also going to discuss the shooting that took place at an ICE detention facility in Texas.

That is yet another example of tragedy of political violence in this country that should be condemned. And if ever there was a perfect example of how political violence leads to nothing but more. more harm. This is it. So we'll get into those details. And I also want to talk a little bit about what's been going down over at the UN. For the first time in 58 years, you have a Syrian leader, a former al-Qaeda combatant addressing the UN General Assembly. I think it's weird. I think it's crazy. I especially think it's crazy that the United States has such a friendly, warm relationship with someone who is part of a terrorist group that carried out. 9-11, the largest terrorist attack on U.S. soil. So I'll get into the details on that in the first hour as well.

In the second hour, Jank Uger will be joining me to talk about other topics, including some unfair, ridiculous attacks he's been getting over the fact that he interviewed and pretty viciously debated David Duke years ago. He did not agree with anything David Duke had to say, but he's still being smeared for that interview even today. So we'll get to that later in the second hour as well. As always, just want to encourage you to like and share the stream. If you're watching us live, it's a free and easy way to help support the show. You can also support us by becoming a paying member for a very low low price. TYT.com slash join to become one.

All right, let's get to our first topic. Another day, another act of senseless political violence in the United States. I really hope that this doesn't continue and it at the moment feels like there's a bit of a political violence contagion in the United States. The latest example involves two. ICE detainees that had been killed this morning by a gunman in Dallas. Now the FBI alleges that the shooter wrote at least one anti-ice message on their ammunition. So this story obviously broke today, it's still developing. I'm

sure we're gonna learn more details, but I just want to warn you all, it is the first day that this story has been reported. Things tend to change, so just be willing to understand that the details, as we know them now, are subject to change similar to how the details of Charlie Kirk's assassination changed, and we'll see what happens. But here's what we know as it stands right now. So the Dallas Ice Field Office is where this shooting took place, and it usually holds detainees for less than 24 hours before they are then sent off to a long-term ice facility for detention. However, in July, the Dallas Morning News, reported that family said in recent months that people were being detained in the field

office for days and were not provided adequate resources. One woman told an NBC affiliate in Dallas that as many as 30 detainees were being housed in a single cell. So there has been some media attention on this particular facility and in fact there had been other acts of violence targeted toward it. We'll get to those details in just a minute. But almost exactly one month ago, a man walked into the same field office and claimed that he had a bomb in his backpack. Now luckily, no one was harmed. This individual was arrested and still remains in custody today. Now, let's fast forward to the shooting that occurred today and the details that we know as the story stands at this moment. 29-year-old Joshua Hahn has been identified

as the gunman as the shooter. And just before 7 a.m. local time, Han began shooting. indiscriminately at the ICE facility according to ICE's deputy director. So Han is a complete moron who is engaging in a senseless act of violence. And I say senseless because when you're indiscriminately firing your weapon, what do you think you're going to accomplish with that? First of all, meeting anything that you disagree with politically with violence is beyond counterproductive and stupid. So I do not in any way agree with any political violence. It's not helping any situation.

And in fact, creates yet another excuse for the government to tamp down on our freedom of expression, freedom of rights. There is never a tragedy that the government is not willing to use for its own purposes. So Han is just not helping any situation here whatsoever, okay? So again, just before 7 a.m. local time, Han began shooting indiscriminately at the ice facility, and that's according to ICE's deputy director. Now, Han shot across the entire length of the office. Not a single ICE agent was harmed, and I'm happy about that. But what I'm very angry about and very upset about is the fact that two detainees have lost their lives, have been killed

by someone carrying out an act of political violence as it appears at this moment, it was senseless and detainees ended up losing their lives as a result. There's another detainee who is in the hospital in critical condition. So when law enforcement found Han, he had already shot himself. So the gunman is also deceased in addition to the two detainees who were killed as a result of this indiscriminate firing. FBI director Cash Patel also posted the following image on X. And if you look closely on the fourth bullet, you'll see in blue writing, it says anti-ice.

And so that has been disclosed to the public as evidence that this was a politically motivated attack. And if this person, if the gunman had a problem with how ICE was carrying out, you know, their duties, how they were treating detainees. Well, he's got a funny way of showing it, considering the people who ended up losing their lives were ICE detainees. So Patel stated that these unspent shell casings with the phrase anti-ice written on them were recovered at the scene of the crime. And for that reason, Patel wrote that the shooter had an ideological motive. So CNN also reported today that Han voted in the Democratic primary back in 2020, but has not voted since.

As far as a criminal record, there's really not much to share with you on that. All we know is that he had been charged with delivering marijuana dating back to 2016, and he actually pleaded guilty. And the Department of Homeland Security Secretary, Christy Noem, shared more on X, writing that for months, We've been warning politicians and the media to tone down their rhetoric about ICE law enforcement before someone was killed. These horrendous killings must serve as a wake up call to the far left that their rhetoric about ICE has consequences. Comparing ICE day in, day out to the Nazi Gestapo, the secret police, and slave patrols has consequences.

The men and women of ICE are fathers and mothers, sons and daughters. They get up every morning and try to make our community safer. Like everyone else, we just want to go home to our families at night. The violence and dehumanization of these men and women who are simply enforcing the law must stop. We are praying for the victims and their families. But Secretary Nome understands that they're not just simply doing their jobs. The way that ICE has operated under the Trump administration is very different from previous administration. and that includes Republican administrations as well.

We as Americans do have the right to be aggressively critical of our own government. If we feel, if we see that they are violating constitutional rights, violating human rights, there had been a lot of criticism toward ICE over the fact that in some cases they engaged in raids where they were not uniformed, they were wearing masks. And if you don't properly identify yourself, people are going to be terrified. and assume that it's a criminal essentially kidnapping random people off the streets. Now, I'm happy to see that ICE officials are now wearing their uniforms. Listen, I know that they're being met with violence.

So if they need to wear masks, fine, but you need to identify that you're actually legitimate law enforcement. Having an open and honest conversation about that is not inciting violence. Inciting violence is when you direct your audience or when you go online and you tell people that you should do very specific violent things to ICE agents. And anyone who is inciting violence in that way absolutely should suffer consequences because they are creating a situation that is very dangerous, not just for the ICE agents, but clearly for innocent bystanders, for detainees, for all sorts of people.

And in the long run, could be used in nefarious ways by the federal government to violate and infringe on our First Amendment rights. Political violence is so stupid. Aside from being deeply immoral, it is so utterly stupid. I don't care how angry anyone gets at me for speaking out against political violence. Go ahead and get mad. When has it accomplished anything in the United States? It's just so stupid, it really is.

But on top of that, I have a problem with people like Secretary Nome and other government officials coming out and essentially saying, you got to calm down the rhetoric. Don't be too critical of the federal government, of law enforcement? No, if they're doing something wrong, we are going to be critical. Now, if there's an issue with us being critical of the federal government, well, then I really do think that the democratic norms that we've enjoyed in this country really are under threat. But don't fall prey to these types of narratives, whether it's coming from the Biden administration, which effectively censored some of the skeptics involved in what we were hearing about COVID. Don't be willing to sell your rights away because the other side

is engaging in rhetoric you don't like. Don't fall for it. Just don't. But at the same time, those who are in fact inciting violence, and I think we all know that when we see it, should be condemned because violence doesn't carry any type of, you know, political effectiveness in this country. What did this idiot accomplish other than killing two people and taking his own life? So the story is going to continue developing. We'll see what else we learn about it. But if you want to talk about dehumanization, Secretary Nome, let's talk about how immigrants have been dehumanized in this country as well. And how many of them have been met with violence by ordinary private citizens, when before the election, you have J.D. Vance acknowledging the

vice president now, but back then candidate J.D. Vance, acknowledging that they were totally making up that Haitians were stealing people's pets and eating them, because at least it drew attention to the immigration problem in that local community. You can draw attention to that immigration problem without smearing people and causing hysteria and anger and rage against immigrants. So if you want to talk about irresponsible rhetoric, I would venture to say that there's a lot of blame to go around. And in the end, the people who end up losing the most are the American people as government officials from both sides of the aisle, depending on who's in charge, are just chomping at the bit to censor people and silence them.

So don't let that happen. We are allowed and we should be critical of the government when they engage in activities that we find reprehensible or unconstitutional. It's that simple. And we should engage in debates about that because not everyone agrees, but that's fine. We can debate about it. Inciting violence is something very specific. So if we're going to go after those inciting violence, that's a different story.

You're going to go after those who are critical of the government, even aggressively so. I've got a problem with that. So we'll give you more details as the story develops for now. I'm going to take a quick break. And when we come back, we've got a massive segment about the flotilla carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza and how it's being attacked by Israeli drones. We'll also talk about Tucker Carlson's response to his critics after he gave a speech at Charlie Kirk's Memorial. That and more coming up, don't miss it. What's up, everyone. Welcome back to the show, Anna Kasparian with you. I want to get right to our next story.

And then I've got a super chat about our first story that I'll read to you afterward. Let's talk a little bit about the humanitarian aid flotilla that has been attacked by Israel. The flotilla is reported to have come under drone attack off the coast of Crete. The people on board posted this on social media. The global sun-mood flotillas said more than a dozen explosions were heard around the flotilla as it sailed off Greece late on Tuesday with damage caused by unidentified objects dropped on deck. Israeli drone strikes have been targeting flotillas, carrying humanitarian aid for starving Palestinians trapped in Gaza. And things have gotten so dangerous for those seeking to help the victims of Israel's genocide that Italy has now sent a naval vessel, a navy vessel, while condemning the attacks somewhat. And I'll explain what I mean by somewhat in just a moment.

Now, here is one of the people who is part of this mission, essentially sharing her experience as these attacks were underway. We just heard another attack right now. We know of five vessels that have been attacked by a bomb. You can clearly hear it. And again, another bomb was released. We do not know which vessel it is at this very moment. Raise the alarm. We are in international water carrying only humanitarian aid. We have no weapons. I want to reiterate what you just heard in that video. These are people trying to get humanitarian aid to people in Gaza, which has been leveled. A population of people who have been killed through aerial bombardments, who have been shot at as they seek humanitarian aid from three humanitarian aid hubs in the entirety of the Gaza

strip. These are people who have been brutalized for nearly two years straight. And there are luckily still some people in the international community. I mean, I can't unfortunately include our own pathetic government in this group. But there's luckily still people who are able to see the humanity of the Palestinian people in Gaza, and they are risking their lives to try to get them food and water. That is what they're doing. They are unarmed.

They're not trying to go to war, they're approaching in peace. And Israel responds in the only way Israel knows how, through violence and intimidation. Imagine thinking you're the hero as you target unarmed people day in and day out for nearly two years straight. And I'm just talking about the current genocide. That's what Israel's legacy is now. It is unbelievable to me, so let's get to some more details as we know it. The global Samud Flotilla is using an estimated 50 civilian boats in an attempt to break Israel's

blockade of Gaza to try to get them humanitarian aid. Now Reuters is reporting that Italy sent a Navy ship to the flotilla's assistance after the vessels were attacked by 12 drones in international waters, 30 nautical miles off the Greek island of Gavdos. The drones came in the middle of the night dropping stun grenades and itching powder, damaging the sails of some boats, according to two Italian members of the European Parliament aboard the flotilla. So you saw this example in the first video, and I want you to just see this again. And imagine, imagine meeting people or responding to people who are just trying to save other people's lives with this type of act, with this type of violence.

Miraculously, no one has been wounded, no one has been physically harmed. At least that's what the reporting indicates right now, and I hope it remains that way. But clearly, at the very least, best case scenario, Israel is using intimidation tactics because God forbid anyone tried to save the Palestinian people from the mass murder, mass slaughter that's being carried out by the Israeli defense forces at this very moment. Every day, an average of 80 people are killed in Gaza, many of whom happen to be women, children, elderly people. One of our viewers, independent outlaw writes in it says, hi Anna and Jenk, the Gaza flotillas

were attacked because Israel fears further exposure of its war crimes. 145 countries recognize Palestine's historic rights, Spain and Italy has now planned to deploy the Navy to protect the aid flotilla ships. Meanwhile, the United States continues to enable extremist Zionists who are openly rejecting a Palestinian state. And you're right about that. Now, I have to say, I wasn't fully satisfied with the response from Italy. I'm glad that they're sending a Navy vessel to ensure that people are okay, but the statements coming from Italy's leadership leave much to be desired. I will admit that. But first, here's another example of the type of intimidation that's being carried out, although I will admit this is a little bit

hilarious. So Annalisa Carrado of the Democratic Party in Italy said this in a video. on board radio started playing very loud ABBA music. We thought it was a joke, but no, it was the first act of intimidation to tell us they were close enough to get into our radio systems. So I had the same reaction, right? You're using the ABA music to basically flex some muscle. But at the end of the day, the message that's being sent here is a very clear message. It is a message of intimidation, and it was followed with a drone attack.

that luckily didn't get anyone hurt. So the attack lasted around three hours. And again, I'm gonna note again that everyone seems okay. All passengers were safe after the drones exploded over the vessels. A Greek Coast Guard official told Reuters that members of the flotilla contacted them around 2 AM. So that's at 2,300 hours to inform them of the incident. When approached by the European Union's border agency front texts, however, The flotilla said it did not require assistance. The official added. But this isn't the

first time the flotilla has been targeted by Israel. So earlier this month, the flotilla blamed Israel for other drone strikes on its boats while they were moored in a Tunisian port. Israel, of course, I mean, they didn't respond to those accusations because who would hold them accountable if they don't. The United States, all the other countries that have decided to do the symbolic gesture of recognizing a Palestinian state, but still ship out weapons and weapon parts to Israel. Canada being one of those countries, by the way, talk is real cheap. Symbolic gestures, people aren't falling for it anymore. We've been governed by symbolic gestures endlessly, in the United States at least, I'm not buying it.

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Conditions supply, visit your local Volvo retailer or go to explorevolvo.com. So let's get to Italy for a second. So in regard to the recent attacks, Italy's prime minister, Georgia Maloney has urged the flotilla to essentially accept this plan, this offer, where they would hand over all of the humanitarian aid to the Latin patriarchic of Jerusalem in Cyprus, Greece, and allow them that, to deliver the aid. She alleges that Israel is open to this plan. Now I dug into this a little more and what would happen is Greece would ship over the humanitarian aid to Israel

where it would then be destroyed. If not by the Israeli government, certainly by the Israeli settlers. And there's endless video of that online that you can check out for yourself. So excuse me if the flotilla is not interested in handing over the humanitarian aid so it So it could then be destroyed and not make its way to the Palestinian people. But Maloney is upset that people are trying to help those who are just being brutalized and starved to death. She says that the flotilla is gratuitous, dangerous, and irresponsible. What about the leveling of Gaza?

What about the mass slaughter of innocent people in the Gaza Strip? We don't think that's gratuitous, dangerous, and irresponsible. I would argue that's the root of the problem. People who are trying to do something about it in lieu of an international community that gives a damn are not the problem here. The belligerent government with its belligerent military that is now guilty of endless atrocities against innocent people, I would argue they're the root of the problem. I would argue that they're the ones who are being irresponsible, dangerous.

And the United States government and some of the citizens within this nation that continue to provide cover for it, they're genuinely the root of the problem. This is not good for the United States. The fact that we are supporting, I mean this now multi-front war in the Middle East, Or at least we're supporting the country carrying out a multi-front war in the Middle East does not bode well for the United States. And it's my right as an American to make that clear, to air my grievances about what's going on here. This is crazy. It is isolating us in the worst possible ways from the international community.

We have no leg to stand on when it comes to how other countries operate, whether or not they're valuing human rights. Who the hell are we to ever utter a single word or offer any judgment about how any other country is behaving as we aid and abet a literal modern day genocide that's playing out in real time and it's streamed online for all of us to see. This is not made up. We all see it. All these billionaires in the US work in overtime to control every single media platform imaginably because maybe, maybe they can convince us to unsee everything that we've all

seen for ourselves with our own two eyes over the last two years. It's not going to work. Guido Crosetto, that is his name. He's Italy's defense minister, was equally pathetic as he both condemned the attack, but referred to the attacker as currently unidentified perpetrators. Why are you pretending like we don't know it's Israel? Like, why? What's the point in that? That's I don't know if there's just this weird trend of international leaders having a humiliation fetish. But man, there's been one leader after another just raising their hand and offering themselves up for humiliation.

Do you think we're stupid? It was Israel. And we know it's Israel. Israel has repeatedly criticized the flotilla accusing its activists of complicity with the Hamas militant groups. Right, okay, because if you want to help literal children who are being starved to death, you obviously support terrorists. In a statement, the global Samud flotilla said the following, multiple drones, unidentified objects, dropped, dropped, communications jammed, and explosions heard from a number of boats.

We are witnessing the psychological operations firsthand right now, but we will not be intimidated. These are some of the bravest people on the planet. So the threats to either destroy your life if you speak out against Israel or even threaten violence against you if you defend the Palestinian people and their right to be treated as human beings, they're right at self-determination. That's real, that's real. And I know it's real because I have experienced it firsthand. It's been, it's come in many forms, it's come in the form of trying to intimidate me by trying to get family members fired from their jobs, which honestly, when people would claim that, before all of this happened, when people would

claim that, I would kind of roll my eyes because it kind of played into what I thought was a trope. But when you are critical of a foreign government and you're met with the type of threats that I have been seeing lately, okay, well, I guess it wasn't made up. I guess you really do put yourself on the line if you're willing to be critical of Israel's conduct. I was looking forward to watching other speeches. But there have been so many specific threats of violence against me that I had to rethink whether or not it makes sense for me to go to that conference. And after thinking about it deeply and after witnessing the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk

while he was at an event. And also after taking stock of the security measure. and whether or not the environment makes me feel safe enough, I decided it would be irresponsible for me to go. And I feel really torn up about that. Because not only was I looking forward to it, by not going, I feel like I'm letting the bad guys win. But what I also know is that it doesn't matter if you're an American.

Because if you do get hurt, if you do get killed, because of the fact that you're critical of our special ally, I don't trust our government to look out for you. The only thing I've seen our federal government do, and in some cases, state and local government do, is engage in punishment of those of Americans who have been critical of Israel. And if I can't rely on my own government to protect me, or at least punish the perpetrators who might cause harm to me as I'm at a conference.

I just don't feel safe going. That's, that's how bad things are at this point. So I want to apologize to all the attendees for Arab Khan this year. I really wish I could go, but I just don't feel safe going considering the specific threats. And I don't want to get into the specific threats. I've been getting them for a while and they've gotten a lot more aggressive recently. So that's the reality of the situation. If you don't see how our unwavering support for Israel, how damaging it is to our country,

I just don't know what it would take. I really don't know what it would take. Our freedom of expression is under threat as a result. We don't trust our government in many instances as a result. I don't feel safe in my own country as a result. How many American citizens have been killed by the IDF already? Latest story involved four American citizens in Lebanon who got killed in an Israeli airstrike, five people in total, four of them were American citizens, three of them were

children, were kids. The president hasn't issued a single statement about it, not one. You have American citizens who visited their family members in the West Bank and got killed by settlers, Israeli settlers, and the government does not care. Every paycheck, huge portion of my earnings, goes to a federal government that I don't trust and I don't think would keep me safe. All right, let's just take a break. I'm going to take a breather.

When we come back, I want to get into Tucker Carlson's response to his critics. They want to make you drink Starbucks every day from now until forever. All right, welcome back to the show, everyone. Anna Casparian with you. And this is going to take a while to get through. So I don't want to waste any time. Let's talk a little bit about the backlash that Tucker Carlson has received after giving a speech at Charlie Kirk's Memorial. And what his response is to the critics. This is my country. I mean, BB's running around. This is a fact. I'm not guessing about this because I talk to people he said it to is running around the Middle East, his region and his own country and telling people, point blank, just stating it, I control the United States. I control Donald Trump. You can't use my country like some kind of disposable product. This is wrong. And if it's not wrong, tell me how it's not wrong.

Why don't you stop attacking me and my trying to get family members fired, which they never stopped doing. Well, even someone as wealthy, powerful, and well known as Tucker Carlson has become a target of all sorts of smears. And it's all a result of his open, public, overt criticism. of the Israeli government, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in particular. And as I learned recently, that's that's naughty. You're not allowed to do that. You can be as critical of the United States government as you want, but God forbid,

you're ever critical of a government that is carrying out not only a genocide in the Gaza Strip, but a multi-front war because they've bombed a bunch of their neighbors and then some. But anyway, I digress. So Tucker Carlson has been attacked so much, that even his speech at Charlie Kirk's memorial in which he shared the foundational story of Christianity was somehow twisted as anti-Semitism. Now, I was, sorry about that, now I was raised Christian. So I actually saw this speech soon after he gave it and no red flags were raised for me, not even one. And it's because he is literally sharing the foundational story of Christianity.

So pay close attention to the words that he uses, and then I'll tell you more. And it actually reminds me of my favorite story ever. So it's about 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem, and Jesus shows up and he starts talking about the people in power. And he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is telling the truth about people. And they hate it. And they just go bonkers. They hate it. And they become obsessed with making him stop.

This guy's got to stop talking. We've got to shut this guy up. And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamplit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus thinking about what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us. We must make him stop talking. And there's always one guy with the bright idea

and I could just hear him say, I've got an idea, why don't we just kill him? That'll shut him up. That'll fix the problem. So he was comparing the story of Jesus being crucified to what happened to Charlie Kirk. That Charlie Kirk's thoughts, his beliefs, his speech were so offensive to the shooter that this individual decided to assassinate him and take his life. Now, I can understand why practicing Christians might not like the comparison. But just putting that aside for a second, I want to just reiterate, I want to remind you.

you all that at no point during that portion of his speech, or any portion of his speech, did he use the word Jewish people, Jews, Israel, nothing like that. He literally shared the foundational story of Christianity, what happened in the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. If people find that offensive in a country that supports religious liberty, I actually think we've got a problem here. So I personally thought the reaction to Tucker Carlson's speech was unhinged to say the least. I'm going to give you a few examples. So author and editor of Culture War magazine E. Michael Jones lied, lied. You just heard the portion of the speech from Tucker Carlson that he's alluding to here.

Lied and said that in plain language, Tucker Carlson is saying that the Jews killed Christ 2,000 years ago for telling the truth. and they killed Charlie Kirk last week for the same reason. Did he say the Jews killed Christ? Here's another one. And by the way, that's not what the plain language from Tucker Carlson's speech communicated. The plain language plainly stated the foundational story of Christianity. I don't know what the, like, look, I have rejected organized religion. But this is not something new that Tucker Carlson made up in an effort to smear Jewish people.

That's crazy. But let me, by the way, what happened to Judeo-Christian values if, you know, people think that the foundational story of Christianity is unacceptable. Anyway, let me continue. Here's another one, Dinesh D'Souza says, quote, the Jews killed Christ is no more accurate than saying, quote, the Romans killed Caesar. True, Caesar was murdered by a powerful faction of Romans, but other Romans supported him and took up his cause. Only in the case of Jews is blamed assigned in this way,

that's anti-Semitism, but he didn't say anything about Jews. Why are they putting words in his mouth? It's unhinged, but okay, let's keep going. And then Laura Lumer, of course, why does the GOP refuse to condemn Tucker Carlson for using Charlie Kirk's memorial to suggest Jews killed Charlie Kirk. He didn't, didn't suggest that. Just exactly how many people in Congress are on the take from Qatari money. I think we should take all foreign money out of our politics.

I think we should take all corporate money out of politics, Laura. Are you down with that? Something tells me you wouldn't be down with that. So the hypocritical focus on Qatar when we know that the most powerful foreign lobby in this country is the Israel lobby is laughable to me. But let's, I guess, move on from that. Notice how she wants him de-platformed. Why is he even included? Why does the GOP refuse to condemn Tucker Carlson?

Why was Charlie Kirk willing to include Tucker Carlson at a turning point event where he gave that speech about Jeffrey Epstein? No, no, we should censor him. We shouldn't take him seriously. We shouldn't include him. We should silence him. And you know, Glenn Greenwald made a really good point how there has been a concerted effort to silence Tucker Carlson because he has been one of the most critical voices of Israel in

conservative media. And for that, I think he deserves respect because I know that that's not an easy thing to do. It's not an easy thing to do on the left, but it's certainly not an easy thing to do on the right. And so here's Glenn Greenwald explaining. There's clearly an attempt to destroy your reputation. And they seized on this Charlie Kirk speech that was so benign in order to do it. How is that affecting you, if at all, and what is your strategy for dealing with it?

I was bummed out that other people's hate and narcissism, crazy narcissism, obscured what I was trying to say. It's actually not about you, sorry, it's about the world's biggest religion in my faith. If we could just talk about me for one second or talk about Jesus for one second. So that's a, look, I never want to fight about Israel, ever. I'm actually pretty moderate on the subject, I think, always like going there. I know a lot of Israelis, always liked, you know what I mean? You never really talked about it before on number seven.

You never really talked about it before I'm shoved on the front burner. Exactly. It's like, this is my country. Yeah, he's right. This is our country. And we get to be critical of a foreign government that is not. at all indicative of the character and the morals of the Jewish people. I want to be clear about that. The conduct of a foreign government should be open for debate, especially since we're talking about a foreign government. We're able to talk about the conduct of our own government. That's what makes America great, that we're allowed to engage in open,

free speech and expression. So these like weird attempts to like smear Tucker Carlson over like he's like a he's a deval Christian. So he's not allowed to have his own religious liberty and his religious beliefs. That that's going to be twisted into some sort of anti-Semitic smear. That's ridiculous. But he was really cooking in this next clip and And what he says here, I really felt to my core. Take a look. This is my country.

This, I mean, I don't own the country, but I'm a shareholder in the country. I'm an American. And you can't use my country like some kind of disposable products. Like, you just can't. I mean, BB's running around. This is a fact. I'm not guessing about this because I talk to people he said it to, is running around the Middle East, his region and his own country.

And telling people, point blank, just stating it, I control the United States. I control Donald Trump. He's saying that. And again, I'm not guessing at all. That's a fact. And I dare them to say that's not true because it is true and they know it's true. So I'm an American. How do you think it makes me feel?

Even if I didn't vote for Trump, which I did. I did vote. I campaign for Trump. But even if I, even if it was Joe Biden, I'm an American. You can't treat, it's too humiliating. I can't handle that. And I shouldn't have to put up with that. This is a country of nine million people.

I'm not saying it's, I'm not even attacking the country. I'm attacking my leaders who are allowing my nation of 350 million people to be forced into doing things that are bad for me and my children. I can't tell you how much I agree with everything he said there, especially the part about being humiliated by how our government here in the United States is behaving and how our government, and this is again, regardless. of which party we're talking about, because we saw how Biden handled what's happening in Gaza before allowing for Trump to inherit it and essentially continue it and make it

worse. Both parties are complicit in the ongoing genocide in Gaza, and it is embarrassing to the American people. It is embarrassing to the American people when it appears that And our government leadership here is more concerned about aiding and abetting a government and military that's carrying out atrocities as opposed to carrying out what's in the best interests of the American people. And on top of that, our government is willing to attempt to censor and silence Americans as they're critical of a foreign government. needed to say it on the right. And I'm happy Tucker Carlson is saying it. It is humiliating.

I feel humiliated by it. I was so naive. I really was. I really was. I didn't realize just how bad things had gotten and how utterly precious and vulnerable our constitutional rights really are. And when you feel like you really are losing the idealistic nature of what this country was meant to be, that you're losing any and all hope in that, it makes you want to fight for your country. It really does. You don't really know how precious your rights are when you can see them slipping away. And it's embarrassing to see how our leaders behave when it comes to supporting Israel, selling out the American people, and more importantly, okay, using our money or borrowed money to help fund the atrocities that are being carried out in Gaza

and quite honestly, the West Bank and other Middle Eastern countries as we speak. And Yemen. The final thing that I'm going to get to because this really struck home for me as well, and I think there are others who will relate to it, if you disagree, with the points that anyone is making about Israel, if you think that the criticism toward the Israeli government and the IDF happens to be unfair, that's totally fine. We should engage in dialogue and those opinions, that analysis should be substantively rebutted. I want to hear the arguments proving me wrong.

Tucker Carlson wants to hear the arguments proving him wrong. But notice that that never happens. Something else happens, though. Take a look. And there's an ongoing humiliation ritual designed to make us all crazy, designed to turn us into haters. I'm not going to give them the satisfaction of becoming what they call me. I'm not a hater and I'm never going to become one.

But I will never accept this. I shouldn't have to accept it. I have nothing to be ashamed of. I have no unexpressed views. I'm not hiding anything. I say exactly what I think all the time. This is wrong. And if it's not wrong, tell me how it's not wrong.

Why don't you stop attacking me and my trying to get family members fired, which they never stopped doing? Why don't you instead tell me how you disagree with me? But they can't because they don't actually have an argument. There's no way to justify controlling the U.S. government for the purposes of another country's, whatever their plan is, expansion, there's no way to justify that. And so they just scream at you and call you names. And I guess I'm just blessed because I don't believe that about myself.

So that doesn't hurt me. You know, if they said, well, you've gained 10 pounds, you might hurt my feelings. But calling me a bigot doesn't hurt my feelings because I know that I'm not. Amen. I fully agree with everything he said there. Instead of smearing people who are critical of Israel, instead of going after your fellow Americans who are critical of a foreign government, you should have a substantive rebuttal.

And if you don't have a substantive rebuttal, if you take your ball and go home, and then proceed to smear people as anti-Semites, if you decide to use all sorts of ridiculous, unfounded claims to attempt to destroy their lives, well, you're a coward. And you don't have an argument, and everyone sees it. Speaking the truth, drawing attention to injustice

does not make you a bad person, person and it is not a commentary on an entire population of people, there are people aiding and abetting what's happening in Israel right now, people like Mike Huckabee. He's not a Jewish person. He's an evangelical. And the idea that any time you criticize people like that, you're criticizing the entire Jewish population, I find that to be anti-Semitic. Because it totally erases all the Jews all around the world and in Israel who are critical of what Netanyahu and the Israeli government are carrying out. Why don't their voices matter? And another note, all of the advice about how you shouldn't be too critical of Israel because they'll destroy your career,

this career is not worth having if I can't tell the truth. I'm not interested in being a puppet for anyone, and I'm not interested in being intimidated to the point where I'm either hiding things from my audience or lying to my audience. I'm never going to do it. Look, you guys might not agree with things I have to say, and that's totally all right. But one thing that I will tell you is, I'm genuine, these are the things I actually believe. And that's the type of freedom that I think we need to fight really hard to protect. All right, we're out of time.

We're gonna take a break. When we come back, Jank Uger will be joining us for the second hour. He's going to address some of the smears he's been dealing with, although in a completely different context. And we've got a lot of other stories to get to, so don't miss it.