The Young Turks - Cenk DEVASTATES Trump Flunky

Episode Date: August 23, 2019

Cenk went on Cuomo to school Kayleigh McEnany. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your... ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to the Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Hey, guys, you've heard of the Young Turks podcast because you're listening to it right now. But make sure that you subscribe and give it a five star rating if you like it. Thank you for listening. All right, welcome to the Young Turks. Jake, you're Anna Kasparin with you guys.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Hell of a show. Fascinating day in America. So we've got two hours of action pack news, and then in the third hour, what's going to happen is I'm going to interview Hassan Piker about some of the comments that he made yesterday on his own Twitch channel. And all right, that's going to be an interesting conversation. And then I'm going to talk to Matthew Sheffield in the second half of the conversation. And he is one of the founders of NewsBusters, which is, was one of the top conservative websites
Starting point is 00:00:58 in the country and went after media for being too liberal, he is now a progressive. His transition story is amazing. Okay, wait till you hear that. Why? Did he get blue-pilled? Well, wait till the third hour of the young Turks, where there'll be very, many, very fascinating conversations. Oh, I'm looking forward to that.
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Starting point is 00:01:51 All right, Jank was on Chris Cuomo's primetime CNN show last night. debating Kaylee McEnany, that is the Trump supporting woman who he's debated on the show before. And there were actually a few topics represented in this segment. The first one had to do with the economy. And I actually really liked your answer here, Jank. I thought this was strong, yet calm. Huh, interesting. A rare compliment. Thank you. Yeah, let's take a look. What's a debate within the administration, whether now is the time to give yet another tax cut. This is a key part of the president's strategy. He's has had to this debate and he's having it publicly in front of and with the American people.
Starting point is 00:02:30 But tax cuts work. This is the hottest economy on record. No arguing with the Trump economy. It's why we're going to win in 2020. He says the economy is fantastic and we need to cut interest rates. That actually makes no sense at all. If the economy was booming, you'd be worried about inflation and you wouldn't be cutting interest rates. You'd actually be increasing the interest rates. The reality is that the economy is not booming. Every economists in the country is worried about a recession. And in fact, the Trump administration is deeply worried about a recession. They just told donors that there was a moderate risk of recession. And the only reason they're considering a payroll tax cut, which would actually go to the
Starting point is 00:03:06 employees, is because they know the only thing that actually stimulates the economy is not supply side economics, but actually getting finally the American workers some sort of relief. But, and the reason they're considering that now, and Trump is obviously lying about that he wasn't, it's not connected to the recession, is because they're really, really worried we're about to hit a recession. Well, look, I mean, there is a little bit. And, by the way, Kaylee, when we do hit the recession, will you come back on here admit the supply side economics and tax cuts for the rich didn't work?
Starting point is 00:03:35 It's really quite disgusting that you're rooting on a recession. No, I, I, first of all, you did a great job, but we got to talk about the way she handled that because you guys had her cornered the entire time, right? And she was very defensive, and this is what the right wing does when they're quartered. They automatically accuse you of doing something to intimidate you or to shut you up or to stop a very real point that many Americans are feeling right now. Just before we went on air, a story broke from time that talked about the boom in the service jobs that are available.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And what's the quality of those jobs? Little benefits, very, very low pay. I mean, the average American is struggling right now, and if you have the audacity to tell the truth about what's happening with this economy and what happened with those Trump tax cuts, like what these corporations and the wealthy actually did with those tax cuts, you're rooting you're rooting for a recession. You didn't root for a recession. You're just telling the truth about all the different things that the Trump administration
Starting point is 00:04:42 has done, which will lead to a recession. So I was amused by that answer of hers as usual. So, interesting, sophisticated economic point, I will counter with something made up. Totally. I never said, I was hoping that a recession would come. I said I was worried that a recession would come. And in fact, if you watch the Young Turks, I've said that many times. I think it's a bad idea when people like Bill Maher say that they're rooting for a recession.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Even, in fact, yesterday on the program, before I went on CNN, I said, be careful what you wish for. recessions can turn disastrous and, in fact, millions and millions of people. It reminded me the people rooting for Trump to win because then things might get better after they get worse. Be careful on things getting worse. Unfortunately, whether we wanted or not, that recession appears to be headed in our direction. And look, a lot of, as I said there, the majority of economists certainly agree and are concerned about that.
Starting point is 00:05:40 But the economic theory that has been put on cable news over and over again and never really quite rebutted, certainly not at the quantity that the right wing puts out their message, is that the supply side economics don't work. The only way to stimulate the economy is actually to get money to average Americans, so they spend it because they're not rich, they don't save it. They immediately put it back into the economy that circulates it within the economy and creates a healthier one. And that's why very high marginal tax rates worked for us in the 1950s and 60s.
Starting point is 00:06:13 We want to hear great case of that every podcast, check out pitchfork economics on our podcasting network by Nick Hanauer, brilliant businessman, capitalist, and warning now, my God, you've got to watch out if you don't have a better distribution of income. Our whole economy is going to crash and it's not going to be good for anyone, including the rich. And if you, by the way, if you want to watch the whole CNN appearance, we put it up on t-y-t.com you can see it there and then finally look I don't want we so the things that she said wrong Chris and I agreed that she was wrong because she had the facts she misstated the facts
Starting point is 00:06:53 she misstated what I said but Chris doesn't agree with me very often including the first comment which is like it's his right not to agree that's why he's in the middle but it's the thing that I brought up in the beginning is grading it's what we talked about yesterday as well which is I mentioned, look, the president's a lunatic and the whole, you know, talk of buying Greenland and being upset, et cetera, and talking about how he's a second coming of God. And Chris dismissed it out of hand like, oh, we're not going to do the 24th Amendment, let's get real and talk about real policies, yeah. So that's okay, and that's Chris's position.
Starting point is 00:07:34 But, you know, he's got his own opinions. But the only times that we say that Kaylee's wrong together is when she states the fact wrong. Right, of course. I mean, and that's what I mean when I say that you had her, both of you had her cornered when it came to the portions of the segment that I saw. Now, one of those portions actually happened to be on gun control as well, so let's discuss that a little bit.
Starting point is 00:07:57 So the topic of Donald Trump flip-flopping on possible gun control legislation came up during this interview. And of course, McEnany is going to defend Trump and pretend as though he never flip-flopped, but you really held her feet to the fire, so let's take a look. Background checks. Is there an appetite or is the Atlantic reporting right that the president told the NRA, don't worry about it. It's not going to happen. Well, I don't believe Atlantic reporting or so-called sources. But this president is the one who fixed the criminal background check system with the Fix Nix Act. He wants solutions,
Starting point is 00:08:30 but he wants solutions that work. What is the position, Kaley? He said he wants meaningful background checks. We are talking with Congress, but you are doing a disservice to everyone in this country by not focusing on the real problem here, which is mental illness. Mental illness is not the root of violence. And we could have kept the gun out of the hand of the parkland shooter if we seized a weapon from a mentally ill individual. Red flag laws work. He said he would do federal background checks. He's not going to do it. He's not going to do it. He's not going to do it. 97% of Americans won federal background checks. And we cannot get it in a so-called democracy because of corruption. Donald Trump got $30 million from the NRA and he serves the NRA.
Starting point is 00:09:10 He was stupid enough to admit it. He came out and he said, they were very strong backers of mine. They were very strong backers. They gave me money and I did what I wanted, what they wanted. That's called the swamp. Let's corrupt. Let's leave it here. All these mass shootings to happen over and over again.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That's ridiculous. So, okay, we'll get to the substance in a second, but you did the Trump impression, which I don't think I've ever seen on cable news. I mean, I don't watch it 24-7, I'm sure it's happened at some point. But we were all kind of gathered around to TV in the studio watching you. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, not all, like a few of us, I guess. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:46 So anyway, when you started doing the impression, like we all erupted. Like, it was funny. It's really funny because I got a bunch of comments obviously on Twitter, which always happens. But some people were like, oh, that's cool that you did. And other people were like, hey, you know, that's unbecoming on cable moves. Oh, please, come on, come on, come on. Okay, hold on, hold on. The funny thing is, I didn't even notice I was doing it.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Like, people think like, oh, I planned it out and stuff. I just do it naturally. Like, I do it at home. Now, whenever anybody says anything stupid, I do it in the Trump voice. So I'm like, oh, it's a very strong dinner you made. Well, that would be me saying something stupid about my wife. Okay. So I even do it to myself.
Starting point is 00:10:24 So I didn't, it wasn't like planned or anything, I just naturally did it because that's Trump and he's an idiot. It was funny. For anyone who says it's unbecoming, I mean, we're talking about Trump. Trump is unbecoming, everything about him top, like head to toe is unbecoming. But let's talk a little bit about the point she brought up. And I think you made a great point, but at the same time, I wish every single time a right winger brings up mental illness, they're immediately met with, all right, well, mass shootings
Starting point is 00:10:52 have been happening for years now, so where's the funding for mental illness? Do you guys only care about mental illness after a mass shooting happened so you guys can deflect and use mental illness as the scapegoat? Yeah. But the point that you did make was good, so I thought it was strong, and I love that you had an opportunity to talk about corruption. Yeah, you know, so that apparently was somewhat controversial, because that also got some play afterwards.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I love what you're saying, and you know, I wish I'd said that too, because they've never introduced a bill to increase mental illness funding, so they're totally full of it on that. But, you know, again, I said corruption as a matter of course, because it's obviously the reality of why he does what he does and why a lot of the politicians do it. But afterwards, we're like, whoa, calling Trump corrupt. I'm like, really? Like what? Whoa?
Starting point is 00:11:40 Isn't it super obvious? And I guess it's not super obvious to a lot of people because people don't often say it. Yeah, if you take $30 million from somebody and then they tell you what to do and then you do it and you admit publicly. He came out of the meeting with Wayne LaPierre and Trump said, well, they were very strong backers of mine. Right. And so I changed my position and now I'm against background checks.
Starting point is 00:12:04 It doesn't get any more clear than that. That is a stunning admission of corruption. They gave me money, I changed my position. That's called bribery. It's legalized in this country, but it's still bribery. I mean, all you really did was articulate what's evident if you connect the dots. Not only did Trump say the quiet part out loud, you know, in saying that they're backers of his, but Wayne LaPierre's tweet about his meeting with Trump was pinned on the NRA Twitter
Starting point is 00:12:31 account because it's a sign of or it's messaging indicating, no, no, we own him. He's going to say that he wants gun control after these mass shootings happen. And then we're going to have a meeting with him and remind him, no, no, no, you are our puppet because we're funding you. And then he's going to go ahead and change course. And that's exactly what happened. Yep. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Well, speaking of gun control, let's switch gears a little bit and talk about what else is going on in the news. Suspect Montoya had clear plans, intent, and the means to carry out an act of violence that may have resulted in a mass casualty incident. As many as 29 people have been arrested in 18 states for threatening to commit mass shootings or carry out mass shootings. And this is just since the two mass shootings that took place in El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio. Now, one of the mass shooting plots that have been foiled by authorities was in Long Beach, California, just recently.
Starting point is 00:13:30 In fact, CBS Morning News has more details on that. Let's take a look. Long Beach police arrested disgruntled hotel cook Rodolfo Montoya at his home in Huntington Beach. They seized multiple high-powered firearms, hundreds of rounds of ammunition and tactical gear, including an assault rifle and high-capacity magazines, which are illegal in California. Irma Escobito worked with Montoya at the Marriott Hotel. She says he sometimes made her uncomfortable, but she never reported him. He looked for me and he touched me or gave me a kiss on the hand. I said, don't touch me, please don't, don't kiss me because the cameras are there and I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:14:08 One of the suspects' neighbors who did not want to be shown says another neighbor warned him to stay away from Montoya. One next door told me that he had guns in that RV and just stay clear of it. He's got all kinds of guns. Now, at least 29 people have been arrested in 18 states for threatening mass violence since mass shootings this month in Texas and Ohio. Yeah, so look, guys, this is a case of law enforcement doing a great job. And so this happened, apparently he was a scrundled employee that there's different causes. It's really, and I don't mean to be coy with using this word, but there's different triggers
Starting point is 00:14:48 for what sets people off. And sometimes it's race, sometimes it's religion, sometimes it's employee issue, sometimes a girlfriend, boyfriend, et cetera. But whatever it is, the fact that law enforcement is heading it off all across the country, you have to give them tremendous credit. So we stick with the facts here. So when law enforcement does something wrong, we pointed out when they do something great, we pointed out.
Starting point is 00:15:16 But the most important thing is, if you have some people. someone that you know in your personal life that's talking about how they have a lot of guns or they're going to shoot people and they're angry and they're going to take it out on people, report them. It's not a joke and this is not the old days. It's not McCarthyism. It's not any of that. It assumed that they have, even if they didn't say anything about guns, assume they have weapons because it's America, it's very likely that they do. And if it turns out it's a false alarm, okay, it's a little inconvenience and don't, if whatever you do, do not do it out of maliciousness, right?
Starting point is 00:15:51 Because if you cry wolf, that, you know, is terribly counterproductive. But if someone is actually talking about that at work, where, at school, wherever it might be, given what has happened in this country, it's super important that you tell the authorities, because unfortunately, in this country, it's a high percentage chance that they are not kidding, they're not bluffing, and if they hadn't turned that guy in, when does he use all those weapons? It looks like it would have been imminent. Right, I mean, the cops are saying that there was a game plan set in place, that he was actually planning on carrying out this act of violence, and I just want to make a few comments
Starting point is 00:16:29 about this particular foiled plot. You know, he had all of those assault weapons, and very briefly they mentioned in that report that, well, these assault weapons are illegal in California. inevitably, you're gonna get a wave of conservatives and gun rights activists saying, well, you see, these laws don't work, it's banned in California. And so see, got his hands on those assault weapons, but we're not an island, right, surrounded by water, big water. We're a country, right, of states.
Starting point is 00:17:00 And all you need to do is drive to a state that has laxed gun laws and just buy any gun you want, willy-nilly. If people don't know all the ridiculous Trump quotes, sometimes they probably get confused. They're like, why does Anna want to make a point about how America's not an island surrounded by big water? That's wet from the standpoint of water. That's right, another great Trumpism. So guys, everybody's armed.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And look, one more thing about that. When I was, I've told a story, many stories about this, usually in the last half hour of the Young Turks, which is just for members, DYT.com slash join to hear some of these stories. I always told a story about how I fought with this guy named Buford, Brett and I cracked up over it. But it was the old days, it was the 80s, it was Jersey, and people fought, and it was a little bit more of an innocent time. Now don't fight anybody, man, you have to assume at all times that everyone has a gun.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Because in America, and if you're a touristy, you don't know that, be careful in America. It's a dangerous country, I'm not kidding. Not only are there mass shootings, whenever there's any kind of conflict, you have to assume that the person is armed. There's over 250 million guns in America. So it is a very dangerous place. The Wild Wild West was nothing compared to today. The shootout of the OK Corral, legendary.
Starting point is 00:18:19 So, I mean, in Las Vegas, we had a massacre of 52 people, a huge massacre in Orlando, et cetera. I mean, you've seen it all over Florida. You see it in the news all the time, right? So the OK Corral, I mean, must have been over 50, right? 70 people killed, 90 people killed? No, two people, that's it. And back then, it was like, whoa, two people died in a shootout at the OK Corral. There were like 12 people in America at that time.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Yeah, but like that's seen as like the bad old days. No, the bad old days are right now. Everybody's weaponized and some certain percentage are mentally ill with a violence streak. Not all the mentally ill, in fact, it's a tiny, tiny minority of the mentally ill that have a violent streak. But unfortunately, a country of 300 million people and about 300 million guns, that tiny percentage, there's a lot of damage, no matter what political or religious or personal beef that they think they have.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Right, and you also have politically fueled violence, you know, for, I'm not gonna say for the first time, but it's definitely exacerbated due to the type of rhetoric that we're hearing in right-wing media outlets from Donald Trump himself, you know, fear-mongering about migrants and people of color, and you know, there's, again, 29 separate people separate people who have been arrested in 18 states because they were threatening to carry out mass shootings. And I just want to read you a few examples. On August 8th, a man is accused of walking into a Walmart in Missouri equipped with body armor,
Starting point is 00:19:48 a handgun, and a rifle less than a week after a gunman killed 22 people in a Texas Walmart and says it's a social experiment and not intended to cause panic, the 20 year old was charged with making a terrorist threat. So why are you walking into any place with that type of weaponry? Yeah, a lot of people are like, oh, it's my rights, it's my rights. You might like, yes, but then there are cops who might be concerned that they're going to get shot, then you're in a world of trouble, right? Let alone anybody else getting shot.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And why are you going around terrorizing people with weapons? And you don't even know exactly what your rights are in that particular state, et cetera, and obviously you violated the law. But it goes on and on. I mean, the guys to worry about the most are the ones that. that are unhinged and ready to act. And one more time, whether it's the FBI or local law enforcement, when they catch them before they do the shootings, oftentimes you don't see it.
Starting point is 00:20:46 That's part of why we're doing this story. You have to give them credit for the things that they stopped that you didn't see. That's when law enforcement is at its best. Absolutely. We gotta take a quick break. But when we come back, we are going to discuss some activists who are holding Nancy Pelosi accountable for her unwillingness to impeach Donald Trump. We need to talk about a relatively new show called Un-F-The-Republic, or UNFTR.
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Starting point is 00:22:18 you've been fed over the course of your lifetime. So search for UNFDR in your podcast app today and get ready to get informed, angered, and entertained all at the same time. Come right back. All right, back on Young Turks. Leroy Beresford writes in the member section. It's clear that Kaylee McEnany isn't taking advantage of TYT membership privileges. She would have definitely seen that Jenk is no fan of a recession or of Bill Maher.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Hey, Kaylee, tyt.com slash trial, you'll learn a lot for free. That's true, you use ty.com slash trial, you get the first week free. Nicholas Ward says, Jank crushed every bullet point. Her only comeback was ad hominem, stone cold. Well, thank you, Nicholas, I appreciate that. Tridora says Anna Kasparian is on point. Conservatives go to that snowflake defense because they can't really defend their true points slash intentions. Speaking of Anna, hammer dance says, does Anna's top look like it's halfway to a superhero?
Starting point is 00:23:27 Oh, I don't know, but it's not a top. It's a dress. Oh, interesting. I bought this for Politicon last year, because I feel like you. it's fierce, and I want it to be fierce. Apparently, it was fierce enough that he thought maybe you were a Zuberhero. And last one, Pork Shop Express says, they want to keep weapons away from the mentally ill, but they'd let someone mentally ill become president, which is more dangerous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Nice job, pork chop. By the way, this is faux leather, just so you guys know. Okay. No, I know, we have progress is watching. I don't want people to think I'm wearing like real leather and whatever. Okay, let's move on. Oh, no, actually, I have some announcements really quick. First off, happy half hour is going to be taped today, which means you can look forward
Starting point is 00:24:07 to watching it. It's the show hosted by our very own Brett Erlich. It is the, in my opinion, best show to watch because it's a nice break from what you'll get on this show, which is the vegetables. But sometimes you want some dessert, okay? And that show is dessert, it's a lot of fun. Steve Bermucci is going to be on today, so please check it out. 7 p.m. Pacific for TYT members.
Starting point is 00:24:30 And it's on YouTube, Roku, Zumo, Pluto, all of those different outlets, so please check it out. All of our shows are on Pluto, Zumo, and Roku. Definitely check it out if you have any of those devices. We have a 24 hour channel on them, including YouTube TV as well. And it's good to see Stefano Alfonso Baramucci on Happy Half-A-Muci. And then we also have something happening for our power panel on August 30th, okay? So August 30th, we are gonna have our usual power panel, but we will only air this for our members and also on Pluto TV, Zumo, the Roku channel, and YouTube TV.
Starting point is 00:25:10 So it is not going to be on YouTube and Facebook as usual. On August 30th, it's only on Roku, Pluto, YouTube TV, and for members on TYT.com. So check it out on those channels. If you're watching our 24 hour channel on that, fantastic. Put it on in local bars, pizza shops, media organizations spread the word. Just like CNN, MSNBC and Fox News, 24 hour channel on all those platforms. So with that said, let's move on to the rest of the news. If Speaker Pelosi does not lead on impeachment, she won't leave a legacy of resistance
Starting point is 00:25:49 like many other San Francisco Democrats. She will leave a legacy of failure. I love it. These are activists who attended one of the events in honor of Nancy Pelosi to call her out and demand that she opened an impeachment inquiry into Donald Trump. This took place during the San Francisco Democratic Party's event to give Pelosi a lifetime achievement award. And so the activists that you're about to see didn't just stick around outside.
Starting point is 00:26:21 They went to the event, they were quiet, they were doing their thing. And then as soon as Nancy Pelosi went up and started speaking, this is what happened. So they were escorted out by police. From what I've read in various reports, no one was arrested luckily, but I love the fact that they're showing up, they're active, and they're demanding change. And the young woman that you saw in the first video actually had such compelling statements that we're gonna go to in just a second. But I love this because it shows Nancy Pelosi, hey, the second you walk out of your Washington
Starting point is 00:27:21 bubble and you talk to real voters, this is what they're. They want, they want action, they want change, they want you to hold Donald Trump accountable. So I love it too, and I want to explain why I thought this protest was among the best that were executed. Because number one, voters don't have a choice anymore because both Republican and Democratic leadership don't listen to voters at all. They don't want to meet with voters, they have enormous disdain for voters. So if you got to check for Nancy Pelosi, she'll meet with you right away.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Same with Schumer, of course McConnell, McConnell wouldn't know an average American of his life depended on it. And so they are then inviting protests. We have no choice because they've shut out our voice completely. Now when you go to do the protest, obviously we always practice nonviolence. In fact, when we do rallies, we teach de-escalation and non-violence. So obviously nothing physical where the left wing check and be loud. There's nothing wrong with being loud.
Starting point is 00:28:24 But then when the security comes, walk out, it's okay. You've made your point, we're not trying to shut out their voice, we're trying to give us a voice for the first time, because we're so underrepresented in Washington. And in their bubble, you have no idea. It's actually worse than you think. Inside of Washington, Pelosi has everyone, and a phalanx of sycophants going around, going, oh, you're so great, you're so great, Speaker, Polish. You're the best Speaker Pelosi.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Everything you've ever done is so genius Speaker Pelosi. Oh my God, everybody loves you, Speaker Pelosi. So it's like the first time she ever hears from any real Americans when you do this. Of course you let her speak, but there's nothing wrong with being loud in the beginning. But when, like I said, under any circumstances, whether it's a Democrat or Republican, when security comes, it's okay. You've made your point. Now take it outside and then go and give speeches outside.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Wonderful. Perfect. Yeah, and you're right. Look, we live in completely different worlds because while we're on the left, right? I mean, we're definitely further on the left. But there are members of the Democratic Party, members of the establishment who look at Pelosi and they think, yeah, lifetime achievement award. So I was curious, like, what is it that the San Francisco Democratic Party is siding in giving her this award, especially at a time when Trump is allowed to run roughshod and do whatever
Starting point is 00:29:49 he wants without any real ramifications. Well, the San Francisco Democratic Party said Pelosi's contributions to repealing, don't ask, don't tell, and urging for net neutrality protections in California. And failing. I know, demonstrates her commitment to fighting for the people. Look, that's weak sauce, in my opinion, right? It's not even close to what we need in terms of leadership. We need someone who's willing to fight back against Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And, you know, there were Pelosi supporters in the crowd as well. And so they started chanting to kind of drown out the sound of the protesters. But I don't want to drown out the sound of the protesters on this show. Their words are so important. Their stories are important. So I want to go back to the young woman that we feature at the very top of this story. And I want you to hear what her arguments are for impeachment. Take a look.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Today, I stand here grounded in my immigrant experience. as a U.S. citizen with the right to vote, a big mouth, and a big megaphone. Woo! I am the Trump administration's worst nightmare. Yeah. Speaker Pelosi is right inside, about to receive a lifetime achievement award. But her legacy is at a crossroads. While Donald Trump empowers white supremacists who are gunning down our communities,
Starting point is 00:31:20 locks up migrant children and families in concentration camps, strips away health care protections for transgender people, and cuts millions of women off from accessing health care from Planned Parenthood. Speaker Pelosi keeps telling us to wait on impeachment. She tells us to wait for the Mueller report, wait for the unredacted Mueller report, wait until impeachment polls better, wait for 2020. I'm here to say that my family, my community, our families, our communities cannot afford to wait any longer.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yeah, you know, wonderful. They're actually, I'm more critical of Pelosi than even those protesters are. At one point, she gave her credit for passing the Affordable Care Act and said this, she's done some good things. And I think that's the most overhyped thing that Pelosi's ever done. She kept her caucus together. They had a massive majority. And they passed a very weak version, much better than the plan, you know, the current system they had then. I'm not against it that they passed it.
Starting point is 00:32:33 But it's like, wow, you got a plan that was originally a Heritage Foundation plan passed through a massive Democratic majority with the the Senate and the president on your side, anyway, I can go on and on. Look, I get why they give her lifetime achievement awards. She's historic in at least the fact that she was the first female Speaker of the House ever, and now she's a two-time Speaker of the House. So I'm mixed on that, but at the end of the day, she's wrong on impeachment, and her career, in my opinion, has been defined by a lack of willingness to fight against Republicans. So I want to just quickly give you a statement from Pelosi in response to the protests.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Diversity is the party's strength, but unity is its power, which Pelosi talking about unity after the way she went after freshman congresswomen, the squad, she has no leg to stand on. I mean, she has effectively exacerbated any and all divide that exists between establishment Democrats and progressives. So it's just a weak argument. It's actually worse than that. Because she got so frustrated that of the, you know, what she would consider the insolence of these young freshman congresswoman who would not behave as they were told to do, right?
Starting point is 00:33:49 That she blurted out about how they were in favor of Green Dream or whatever. It's just only four people. And, you know, of course she spent on Medicare for all, et cetera. But what happens behind the scenes is way worse. She puts Richard Neal in charge of the most powerful committee in the House that controls the budget. And Richard Neal says, I don't want Trump's tax returns from New York, doesn't fight Trump at all on purpose because Pelosi told him, under those circumstances, are you to fight against Trump. And then she turns around and then puts Sherry Bustos as the head of the DCCC, whose job
Starting point is 00:34:19 is to elect more Democrats in the House. But that is not, Pelosi tells her, don't do that, make sure you elect more corporate Democrats. There's several progressives that were within inches of beating Republicans. Last time around, Bustos and Pelosi are now actively working against them and try to to find new people to run against them in primaries, even though all they had to do is support them a little bit, and right now they'd be in Congress. But Pelosi doesn't want those Democrats in Congress because she hates progressives. And she accidentally let us know because she got frustrated and said, they're four people
Starting point is 00:34:54 or whatever, these progressives, they don't really count. And that's who Pelosi is. She's a corporate Democrat through and through. So there was a Monmouth University poll just today, it was released today, and the topic was impeachment. Do the majority of Americans support impeachment? Now, keep in mind the numbers I'm about to give you include both Democrats and Republicans and independents, to be fair. And according to this poll released Thursday, 35% of Americans support impeaching Trump and removing him from office while 59% of Americans oppose that course of action. Only 41% of Americans want
Starting point is 00:35:28 the House Judiciary Committee to open an impeachment inquiry against the president. Now let's go to 8, if you poll Democrats, remember Pelosi is the leader of the Democratic part of the House, but she's a leader, a Democratic leader. Although 72% of Democrats believe Trump should be impeached, 72%. Only 39% of independence and 8% of Republicans support impeachment. So I wanted to give you those numbers so you know where the Democratic Party stands when it comes to this question of impeachment. So two things about that. One, she's, let's be clear, it's a fact. She's opposed to 72% of Democrats in the country, and it's supposed to be our leader. Second of all, if you don't fight, you never win.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Right now, 35% of Americans, you say, well, that's less than a majority. Well, you don't start impeachment proceedings at more than a majority. If you did, it'd be super easy, and that's not how it works. Historically, how does it work? You know, when they started impeachment proceedings against Richard Nixon, what that was polling at? 19%. Only 19% of Americans wanted to start impeachment proceedings against Nixon. Half a year later, after they actually heard the case, it was in the high 50s when Nixon resigned. Because if you want to convince Americans of your case, you actually have to make it.
Starting point is 00:36:48 That is the number one problem with Speaker Pelosi throughout her entire career. She told the Democratic Party, lie down, surrender, never make your case. And at the culmination of her career, when she's supposed to be resisting Trump, she's doing the same exact thing, doing the exact opposite, not resisting Trump at all, and saying, do not make your case, let's just preemptively surrender. At the end of the day, she might be historic, but if you're being honest about her track record, she'll be defined by surrender. When we come back from the break, we will do a deep dive into Bernie's Green New Deal proposal. Remember, the Green New Deal was an ambitious plan, but it wasn't an actual piece of legislation. Well, Bernie Sanders has the proposal for the legislation, and it is the most progressive. It is awesome.
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Starting point is 00:39:31 You have got to hear about J.D. Shulton, wonderful, populist, progressive running against Steve King. I think it's fair to say Steve King's the worst congressperson in the country. So make sure you watch J.D. on tomorrow's conversation. Today I'm gonna talk to Hassan Piker. He made some offensive comments yesterday on his Twitch channel. And we're going to talk it through at 8 o'clock Eastern. And then we're going to talk to Matthew Sheffield, who was one of the top conservatives,
Starting point is 00:39:59 founder of newsbusters, and is now a progressive. So really fascinating conversations coming up over the next two days. Don't miss it right here on tyt.com. And then I wanted to read some of your comments from our members, and you could become a member by going to t.yt.com slash join. Ronda says, happy half hour is the best? But I still want to know, is Brett lit when he starts recording? Or is that just him?
Starting point is 00:40:22 Because seriously, if that's just him, can you imagine him drunk? Okay, Rhonda, I will, because you remember, I'll tell you the behind the scenes truth. That's just him. Okay, yes. Anyway, now on to Nancy Pelosi, OSC Drift says basically she should be getting a lifetime deceitment award. Ooh, sick burn. Jordan Ruck says, the only check they won't take is a reality check. Man, lots of sick birds.
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Starting point is 00:42:18 75% off for three years and you get your first month free. With that said, let's talk about one of my favorite stories of the day, Bernie Sanders and the Green New Deal. Bernie Sanders has rolled out his version of the Green New Deal, and of course, he has been very supportive of the ambitious plan that came out earlier with AOC. Now, that wasn't binding legislation. What Sanders is doing is proposing what would be his binding legislation, and it's incredibly comprehensive. Sanders was an early supporter of the Green New Deal, an ambitious but non-binding congressional plan for tackling global warming and economic inequality. He's bestowing that same name upon his new plan, which calls for the United States
Starting point is 00:43:06 to eliminate fossil fuel use by 2050. So the fossil fuel, The fossil fuel use was the centerpiece of the Green New Deal. So of course he's going to mention that as the centerpiece of his. But once you get into the details, it shows a timeline that isn't really, that hasn't been used in other proposals. So let me tell you what that is. Sanders plan calls for an intermediate goal of decarbonizing transportation and power generation, the two largest sources of emissions in the United States by 2030, which would lower U.S. emissions by 71%, the plan also calls for the United States to help developing countries
Starting point is 00:43:48 curb emissions by 36% during that period of time, by 2030. I wanna say two things about that. First, most plans say that we need to have our fuel emissions by 2030. Sanders goes further and says, no, let's go past 50%, let's go all the way to 71%. We believe that it's doable. And then he sets aside over a billion dollars to help other countries cut their emissions as well. So this is the exact opposite of right wing ideology.
Starting point is 00:44:21 They say, oh, well, screw everybody else, who cares about them? But I don't know if you guys know this, we all live on the same planet. And so he's saying, if you're really going to tackle climate change, we need to incentivize other countries that are developing countries that are not as economically, you know, well off as we are to go in the right direction as well, and we lead by example. Yeah, and by the way, it just, it makes sense. So look, some people might be thinking, I mean, of course the right wing thinks that this is just a giant hoax and there's no need for it, but some people might be thinking,
Starting point is 00:44:53 well, this sounds expensive. There's a giant jobs component to it, which we'll get to in just a second. And one other thing I wanted to note is that study after study shows that if we want to save our existence on this planet, we have no choice but to eliminate carbon emissions. The intergovernmental panel on climate change last year reported that if countries want to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius this century, they need to have global emissions by 2030, they need to cut by half carbon emissions by 2030, and become carbon neutral by 2050, and then go carbon negative thereafter.
Starting point is 00:45:35 That's a super lofty goal, but it's important to accomplish that. Also, the New Deal provided inexpensive electricity to America through efforts like the rural electrification administration and the federal power marketing administrations. If the federal government was able to electrify America under FDR without computers or any of the modern technologies we have available to us today, think of what we can do today. And that's a statement from Bernie Sanders on his Green New Deal proposal. And by the way, we are the top country when it comes to carbon emissions. So when it comes to foreign aid to countries in assisting them to cut their carbon emissions,
Starting point is 00:46:18 I think it only makes sense. Yeah. So this would add 20 million jobs. Now, we don't even have 20 million jobs available at this point. So basically you're saying it would create no unemployment. And that's a fascinating concept. I'm worried that that probably is not going to be the case. I'm worried that there's going to be a crash and a recession even before the next president.
Starting point is 00:46:42 And then when all those people lose their jobs, though, this would be a good way to revitalize the economy. And then that's when the right wing will say, no, no, we're out of money. It crashed. And they'll forget that they already gave all the money to the rich and to the corporations. So conveniently forget. And so the reality is a program like this puts the money and the job, in the hands of average American workers, and it rebuilds our infrastructure like we did under Roosevelt, Truman, and Eisenhower.
Starting point is 00:47:12 And I mean, to rebuild our entire energy infrastructure is exciting. And in terms of what the scientists think we should do, what Anna just said is ambitious and lofty, it's true it is. On the other hand, they've been proven right over and over and over again, so it's not optional. They said that we would break records on temperature, and we did, 16 out of the last 17 years are the hottest on record. They were absolutely right. It's almost as if they're scientists, and 99% of the climate scientists in the world agree.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And so when they say we have to do these things, they're not just guessing and it's not optional. We got to do it, it is an actual planetary emergency. And if they hadn't been proven right already and it was just a theory, that would be one thing. they've been proven right in every instance so far. So I just want to get to the final part of this. And again, his plan is so comprehensive and I encourage you to read all the details. But I also want to talk about the cost because as always, if you read the New York Times coverage of this story, they just talk about the cost.
Starting point is 00:48:20 It's so expensive, it's so expensive, how are you gonna pay for it? Well, let's get to that right now. So several 2020 Democrats have called for investment in the trillions of dollars, but in the fine print, These plans include public and private funding, and this is Graphic 8. Sanders' plan is notably different because it calls for more money than any of the other candidates, $16.3 trillion in total, and the entire investment budget would come from federal dollars. So he doesn't want any private companies playing a role, and I think that it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:48:51 In this case, it makes sense. Yeah, and guys, I want you to understand what that means. It doesn't mean that we can't ever use private companies to build anything. What it means is Trump right now, when he says infrastructure, he says, well, I don't want the government to build the roads or the bridges, I want private companies to do it, and then put a toll on it so they can make a profit off of it. So that means you pay for the rest of your life on those bridges and tolls instead of having the government collectively build that infrastructure, which is a core part of the government's
Starting point is 00:49:19 job. Now, let's talk about how this plan would actually generate money and then help to pay for it. The plan generates money from various sources, including since. $6.4 trillion in revenue from selling energy via power marketing authorities, $2.3 trillion from income taxes, from the new jobs created under the plan. And as Jenk had alluded to earlier, there will be 20 million jobs created by this plan. And $1.2 trillion from reducing military expenses related to protecting oil shipping routes.
Starting point is 00:49:50 A lot of that is happening right now in the Strait of Hormuz because of our conflict with Iran. So I love that one. I have to confess, I hadn't even thought of that. That's true, like we spent so much time, resources, and military equipment, et cetera, protecting important oil shipping routes. Well, we're not using oil anymore, great. And by the way, that also creates less conflict, less potential for war, which is another
Starting point is 00:50:16 great side benefit of this. Yeah, and so Bernie Sanders keeps making the point that, look, we are gonna have this paid for within 15 years, and according to Sanders, the price tag, I'm. I totally agree with this is a bargain compared to the business as usual climate trajectory. Economists estimate that if we do not take action, we will lose $34.5 trillion in economic activity by the end of the century. And that's according to the plan. And that's according to various estimates that I've read completely aside, separate
Starting point is 00:50:47 from this plan. And that's the number one problem with the mainstream media coverage of this. Vox did a great job, and that's why we're quoting them, because they actually had Facts and figures, as opposed to the New York Times going, we don't like it, it's expensive. The status quo is more expensive. Same the exact situation in health care, but a lot of the mainstream media view their job as status quo protection. So they never mentioned the existing costs.
Starting point is 00:51:16 They just talk about, oh, new costs, well, we can't have new costs. But remember, it would save money in the long run. I mean, look at the fires in California, and he's going to introduce in Paradise, California, which had the largest fire in state history. And the reason he's doing that is because to point out, this cost the taxpayers a tremendous amount of money, let alone the damage that it did to the environment and to the humans in California, the citizens, the voters of California. But unfortunately, a lot of the media ignore that completely.
Starting point is 00:51:43 I want to get to an international story before we go to our break. So let's get right to it. India's India's Hindu nationalist leader, Prime Minister Narendra Modi, unilaterally stripped Kashmir of its semi-autonomous status earlier this month. On August 5th, he did this, and he also placed its part of the region on a two-week lockdown. Now, he has decided to ease that lockdown, but he is arguing that this territory should be. be part of India and that it should not be semi-autonomous. Kashmir is a mountainous valley that borders Pakistan and India, has been a center of conflict
Starting point is 00:52:27 between the two nuclear-armed countries since the 1947 partition of British India. Now the New York Times did a pretty good report on this, and it kind of shows you how much it's affected the people of Kashmir. Let's take a look. India has sent in thousands of security forces to confine and silence all of all of the position. In Surinagar, Kashmir's largest city, they have eyes on each block. Checkpoints are everywhere. They have betrayed us. It was a backstabing as Kashmiris. They have made a prison.
Starting point is 00:53:07 The whole Kashmiris now is prison. And people have almost no way of communicating with the outside world. Indian authorities have cut off the internet, sell phones and even landlines. So, to place a call, some try to come here. It's a government building with a few phones that may or may not work. I'm going to call. It's a devastating story, and if the conflict continues to increase, because remember, India
Starting point is 00:53:54 and Pakistan are constantly in conflict, and especially in conflict when it comes to this territory. And so you have two nuclear powers who are constantly feuding, and now the tensions are rising over this territory. I have more details, but Jake, I want you to jump in. Yeah, so there's a little bit of a role reversal here. India used to be the moderate country until Modi took over and he's a nationalist. When he was a regional leader, he looked the other way as there was vigilante violence against minority Muslims in his region of India, and he didn't go to prosecute.
Starting point is 00:54:34 And so he's a Hindu extremist. And so whereas Pakistan used to be Muslim fundamentalists, and I thought was one of the biggest problem spots in the world, I would often say on the show, the two biggest problem countries, unfortunately are Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. But now they are prime minister, Imran Khan, although he's a populist, he's far more moderate and has tried to seek out peace before he was prime minister, and he was elected because of a stance on peace. And now he's saying, perhaps I was too naive and they mistook my attempts in treaties
Starting point is 00:55:17 for peace as weakness. And so he's saying, now I'm gonna go in the opposite direction. These are two nuclear armed countries. This is a potential disaster, worldwide disaster in the making. I hope that tension is cool. Now some people in India's government are saying, well, we had a no, um, uh, you know, um, uh, first use policy that we would never use our nuclear weapons first, which is a great policy. All countries should have that.
Starting point is 00:55:46 And that's because India was a moderate country, led by moderates. Now they're saying we might withdraw that and it depends on the circumstances. Right. And so that's, it's disastrous and wouldn't it be amazing if there were moderates on both sides? But unfortunately, now we got a flip-flop and there's fundamentalists in charge in India. So I want to talk a little bit more about that role reversal that you mentioned with Pakistan in India because look, it's never just one country against the other. There are other countries who get involved.
Starting point is 00:56:17 And one of the reasons why Pakistan has been one of the more questionable countries when it came to maintaining world peace is because it's funded by bad actors like Saudi Arabia. And so it's just fascinating to see how Trump is handling all of this because Trump is very friendly with Modi. But at the same time, Saudi Arabia, which Trump is incredibly friendly with, is funding Pakistan. And so the Kashmiris have been, you know, waiting to see how America would react to this. And so Trump has been called on to mitigate the situation.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Oh, good luck to you guys. Which is, I mean, I don't know what he's actually done. But again, he's very friendly with Modi. So if anyone in Kashmir is thinking that Trump is going to alleviate the pain that they're feeling, that's not going to happen. And even though Modi has eased some of the restrictions under this law, He's still doing away with what's referred to as Article 370, which provided this part of Kashmir their semi-autonomous status.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Yeah, and look, these issues are never black and white, and I understand the Indian perspective. Pakistan, especially in the past, has funded so much terrorism, including horrible strikes inside of India. And recently there was a strike that killed dozens of Indians, and so there's great frustration and anger on the Indian side. But when you have a more moderate leader who's willing to work with you, that is your time to reach an agreement where you could actually strike at the terrorists together instead of making the situation worse.
Starting point is 00:57:53 So how do I know who's right and wrong here? I think these situations are very difficult. I'm always puzzled that anyone claims that they know exactly what's happening in Syria on any of those sides. In this case, the United Nations and human rights groups who aren't on either side say, no, what India is doing in Kashmir is clearly wrong. There's human rights abuses, arresting the political leaders and detaining them is outrageous. All the things you saw in that video are outrageous, and basically they've turned it into
Starting point is 00:58:22 an open-air prison. So it looks like, I would love for India to be right, but in this case, it looks like they're headed in a very wrong and dangerous direction. And one final thing that's important to know, Kashmir is majority Muslim, India is majority Hindu, and Narendra Modi is a Hindu nationalist, right? And he has a history of being particularly vicious to Muslims, which is one of the reasons why the Kashmiris are concerned about not only losing their semi-autonomous status, but the way that they're going to be treated under Modi.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Yeah, and look, you can tell also in the verbiage that they use, who were the good guys, and bad guys in this particular circumstance. So the Indian government says, we had to take preemptive action in Kashmir to protect our interests. So we had to circle the largely Muslim population and basically put them in an open air prison. Because look, anytime anybody's telling you about preemptive action, whether it was the Germans in the 30s, we had to protect the homeland by going into Czech territory in Austria, etc. Or when our government, George W. Bush said, oh, I had to take preemptive action and fight
Starting point is 00:59:31 them over there before they come over here, watch out. That means they're about to start a disastrous war. And so unfortunately, most of the evidence here points to India being the aggressors. And look, last thing, Imran Khan, the prime minister of Pakistan says, now they put all the soldiers there telling us that they had to preemptively to protect their interests. Now, if they start killing the Muslim population in Kashmir, it's going to force my hand And then we both got troops there. And those are two, if you don't, India and Pakistan are gigantic countries and weaponized
Starting point is 01:00:11 to the hilt, the maximum degree, including nukes. I don't think we are getting how dangerous the situation is and how the whole world needs to put pressure on both sides. But unfortunately, particularly on India at this point, including economic pressure to do the right thing. We cannot look the other way if they start to provoke a war with the other side, because that war will end in a disaster, not just for them, but for all of us. We got to take a break.
Starting point is 01:00:39 When we come back, Richard Escal will join us for our two, and we're going to continue on with some more international news. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work, listen ad-free, access members, only bonus content, and more by subscribing to Apple Podcasts at apple. I'm your host, Shank Huger, and I'll see you soon.

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