The Young Turks - Cenk Uygur Announces 2024 Presidential Campaign - FULL INTERVIEW

Episode Date: October 12, 2023

Cenk Uygur announces his bid for the Democratic nomination on the show he founded, The Young Turks with Ana Kasparian. https://www.cenkforamerica.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more i...nformation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:50 You do have this big announcement, although you've already kind of made it on the set of breaking points, but now it's official. Yeah, no, there I had not yet made up my mind. mind, but I have now and I have filed, I will be running for president of the United States of America. Um, so, uh, coming, uh, jank for America.com. Um, and the idea here, guys, is let's change the course. Uh, right now, Joe Biden is down 24 points in the economy, 19 points on jobs when he actually did better on jobs than Trump did. He's down 13 points from where he was in 2020. He is not going to win. I am running. Yes, I am a break glass in case of emergency candidate.
Starting point is 00:02:35 It should not have been me, it should have been someone else, but unfortunately it was not anyone else. And now there's only four months left. We must change course. He has at best a 10% chance of winning. Donald Trump is an actual fascist. So I am running as a proxy. I'm running to win, but I'm also running as a proxy for any other candidate. We have got to get Biden out of the race.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Thank you for winning in 2020. But if he loses this time around, it's not just his problem, it's all of our problems. I actually think democracy is on the line. And so if it takes me running, then that's what I'm gonna do, and we're all gonna do it together. And by the way, and I'll say this up front, and then I'll let you ask all your questions, Anna. If I do this alone and it's just my idea, it's never gonna work, okay? I'm either your voice or I'm not. If you guys want to have a stronger candidate in this race and you want to beat Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:03:32 you're going to make that happen, jankforamerica.com, or in any way, volunteering whatever you want, okay? But if I'm not your voice, I have no chance at all. So let's see if we can bring something good into the world and make a giant difference together. And you know me, I always believe that we can make a difference together. And this is the time to do it before the primaries are over. So I do have a lot of questions. What I want you to explain is the logic behind what you're doing, right? Because it seems as though you think running is going to spark something in other potential candidates.
Starting point is 00:04:12 So explain what the logic is. Great question. So first of all, when it comes to the issue of me being a naturalized citizen, which I know we're going to get to later. If it wasn't for that, there would be no obstacles to begin with. There should be a progressive in this race, there should have been one for a long time. Marianne Williamson has been in there, but unfortunately she hasn't broken through. I have nothing but respect for her courage and her policies, etc.
Starting point is 00:04:38 But at this point, we're not at progressives versus establishment. We're at four months left and things must change, otherwise we're almost definitely going to lose to Trump. What do you mean when you say four months left? I know, I know what you mean, but explain it to the audience. So Iowa, South Carolina, primaries, caucuses, et cetera, starting in about four months. So in fact, the Nevada ballot deadline is on October 16th. So it's in a couple of days that forces us to go now, right? And so first of all, if Joe Biden drops out, everything is possible.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Everything is possible. All the other candidates will come in, Governor Whitmer, Governor Shapiro, you name it. They will all come in and we'll have a real primary, which we should have had from day one. By the way, when we don't do primaries, Republicans get their message out in their primaries. It's constantly talking about Republican X or Republican Y. Democrats have gotten none of their message out. We need a real strong primary. So my job is to be basically Paul Revere.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Biden's gonna lose, Biden's gonna lose, Biden's gonna lose, Biden's gonna lose. We gotta go now, we have to change that dynamic. So I'm gonna, yes, pressure Biden to get out of the race. So if he leaves now, he's a hero. He did something incredibly magnanimous, he beat Trump. Last time he was a good steward of the economy, so he retires a hero. But if he stays in, I'm gonna explain to people
Starting point is 00:05:58 that he's the villain. And if he loses to Trump, if I'm wrong and he beats Trump, then great, then my apologies to Joe Biden. But that's not gonna happen, and we all know that's not gonna happen. So the idea is to create enough pressure on Biden. And here's how you get the pressure. One of the ways you get the pressure is,
Starting point is 00:06:17 everybody thinks that I have almost no chance of winning, Right? Well, let's keep it real. Everybody knows that, right? They're like, oh, your name is funny. You weren't born here. You're a progressive. You're an outsider, et cetera, et cetera, right? If I get to 20 or 25, panic sets in. There's no question panic sets in because there's two things that happen there. One, the other candidates go, Biden is enormously weak, right? Number two is Biden begins to realize the handwriting's on the wall. If this Jank Yuber, who probably he probably can't pronounce, has gotten to 25, The handwriting's on the wall, he's gotta go. And by the way, Anna, the reason why this is realistic is because there are a lot of people in Washington inside the establishment that are trying to get Joe Biden to drop out. We need to help them, we need to create that pressure. Okay, let me jump in, let me jump in. You have publicly, Bill Maher, James Carvel, behind the scenes, other members of the Democratic
Starting point is 00:07:16 Party urging Biden to drop out. saying that this is a massive risk that will likely get Donald Trump reelected again. Why do you think that you would be an effective voice in dissuading Biden from running again? Yeah, there's two things about that in it. So number one, why aren't they in the race? So look, you can say, what do you mean? Why? Why should Bill Margo in the race? Of course, James Carville's not going to go in the race. Yeah, but guys, just talking about it isn't getting anything done. So you need to actually have someone in the race that is actively pushing him out and saying so like these like polite beseeching of Joe Biden isn't working.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And yes, we've got to crank up the dial. And so one of the ways you do that is you have a real candidate who actually makes a real run at him. And when you have a make a real run at him that's going to create an enormous amount of pressure, rather than just chitter chatter sitting there as time runs out in Washington DC. Now, you're getting to an important point here, and I know some people are nervous. Well, I mean, if Joe Biden only has a 10% chance of winning and Jake, you criticize them, does that come down to 9% or 8%? What difference does it make?
Starting point is 00:08:29 He's gonna lose, 10% isn't enough to win. He's massively behind, he's massively behind, okay? So instead, what the point of turning up the pressure is, is if you lose to Trump, it is going to be on the record, we warned you, I warned you, I came in the race in a crazy attempt to make a difference because we're on a collision course with fascism. And if Joe Biden says, yes, I am that selfish, yes, I don't care about you guys, I don't care if democracy's on the line, I don't care if I'm 80, I don't care if I'm 180, my legacy and my ego is more important than anything else in the world.
Starting point is 00:09:07 So I will stay here and try to get two term president, because two terms is better than one term. And guys, and if you're in the press or you're out there as a voter, you all know that's what he's thinking. thinking you all know that right you know that it's all about his ego and it is intensely selfish and I'm gonna say that 2,000 times on every show until he gets through his thick head stop being selfish democracy is actually on the line jank for America.com Sitch and Adam show, you had described your congressional run for California's 25th District as the worst experience of your life. In that election, you received 6.6% of the vote. It was also
Starting point is 00:10:01 the worst experience of my life. What makes you think that anything would be different this time around, given the way the media treated you, given the stunts that the Democratic Party pulled against you, in order for your plan here to work, you just said it. If you start seeing support for you, 20 to 25% of the vote, it seems like you got that support, then maybe there'll be actual pressure for Biden to step down and not seek re-election. But what makes you think you're going to get anywhere near that, considering what you've already experienced with the media's treatment of you? Yeah. So I'm under no delusion that mainstream media is going to be all of a sudden, oh, Jake Yuga, we've changed our minds.
Starting point is 00:10:46 No, they're gonna be vicious. Yeah, no, I know how mainstream media works and I said today in another interview, they will lie, they will smear me, there's no question, that's what they do to every progressive, and if you're in mainstream media, you're pretending that you're not biased against progressives, that is hilarious, and then you will make that pretense in the middle of an article where you attack me, go ahead, you know you're going to, there isn't going to be one positive article about it, right? But hey, I'm also trying to get get your beloved Whitmer's and Newsoms, et cetera, into the race.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Don't say Newsom. Okay, I know that you're not in favor of it, but that's a different conversation. So I don't think that the mainstream media is going to be any different. No, there's two things that are different in it. One is, I'm not the only one who thinks Joe Biden needs to get out of the race and we need to have a real primary. Tons of people, about 72% of Democratic voters wanted. And Democratic Party, what is wrong with you that you ignore 72% of your voters who
Starting point is 00:11:42 scream, give us another candidate. So if you didn't want me in the race, well, that you should have given him another candidate, okay? And if you don't, if you didn't give them that, you got me instead. So deal with it. Now, in terms of why it's different in terms of being able to break through. And the congressional run, we couldn't break through. Why not? Because they smeared me. And by the way, if I read the LA Times article and I was a voter in the 25th congressional district, and I heard nothing else about me, I would have voted against me because the lies and the smears in there were unreal. I mean, they said I was anti-Muslim, I wouldn't vote for a guy who's anti-Muslim.
Starting point is 00:12:15 They didn't tell people that I'm actually Muslim, that my background's Muslim, right? Etc. So but this time, it's a little bit different media dynamic. So now we have a great number of online shows. We have more liberal outlets, conservative outlets, independent outlets, you name it. We've got every kind of outlet there is in online, in radio. I've been on a black radio, I'm gonna go back on to black radio, I'm gonna go back on to every kind of outlet that will have me on.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And my guess is a lot of outlets will have me on. In the old days mainstream media can freeze you out, right? And then you're done for. They smear you, oh, this guy's anti-Muslim and they anti this, anti that, and then you never get your voice out. Well now, look guys, here, I'm gonna keep it real. When an online show has me on, the views are gonna go up because people are interested in it. And so if maybe the entire internet will say,
Starting point is 00:13:11 no, we're not interested in views. No, we're not interested in Jank. We're not interested in another choice. Bind's got it. Binds on cruise control here, he's definitely gonna win. My guess is a lot of shows wherever they are on the political spectrum are gonna go, oh, okay, now there's a fight, okay?
Starting point is 00:13:28 And now there's a real challenge. And look, one of my advantages is I am loud. And so that is sometimes a disadvantage. But in this case, someone's got to scream from the rooftops. Biden's gonna lose, Biden's gonna lose, we've gotta get another candidate. But the advantage I have is, yes, I'm loud, I'm a warrior, and I will make this case. Not only the case that Biden's gotta go, but our case, so even though this is not progressive versus establishment, and I will take any candidate myself or others that is going to beat Trump,
Starting point is 00:14:03 Yes, but our policies are more popular and I'm not afraid to say it. And so you almost never hear someone forcefully making the argument. Why haven't they done paid family leave? 84%. Republicans wanted, Democrats wanted paid family leave, give mom's 12 weeks off. So let's actually take a brief break. When we come back, I want to talk a little bit about what your platform is going to look like, what type of issues and policies you want to champion as part of this presidential run.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And when we come back, we'll also read some of your questions and comment. comments to Jenk. So if you're watching live, and especially if you're a member, write in. If you have any questions, we'll ask when we come back from the break. We'll be right back. re-election, who is taking a massive risk considering how poorly he's doing in the polling against Donald Trump. And this is Jenks' way of trying to basically prevent what appears to be a future set in stone for both Biden and Trump. Now I want to read some comments from our viewers, Jenk, because there are some who have questions,
Starting point is 00:15:26 some who have concerns, others support you in this effort. Seth Michael Draginski says I have so many mixed opinions on this, but if you can't get into a debate with Biden, how does this matter? I'm asking for you to genuinely explain it to me. If you don't go all the way, what's the plan then? I really need these answers to decide where I end up on this. Okay, super fair. So first of all, of course the NC should have in debates, and I understand that they're not
Starting point is 00:15:54 going to because they are in the business of protecting incumbency, which is not their job. Their job is to pick the best Democrat to be the best candidate against the Republicans, but they have abdicated that responsibility. I don't think that they're gonna go, oh, Jake Uger is in the race. Well, then we should do a debate right away. So I understand that. That doesn't mean you shouldn't pressure them, you should. Now let's all note that we all know, and you don't have to be a young Turks viewer
Starting point is 00:16:19 to know this, that Joe Biden could not withstand a debate against me. It wouldn't even be close, it would be embarrassing. Why are we picking a guy who would be embarrassed? by an online talk shows and a debate and we all know it and we can all acknowledge it. He has no chance of beating someone who has actual facts and makes a strong case. So he can't even make a case for himself. He's at 19 points lower than Trump on jobs when he doubled the number of jobs that Trump created.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I have made a better case for Biden on jobs than he has. So now in terms of what happens, well, we run super hard, I believe anything is possible Do I believe we can win? Hell yes, I do. But if you get to Iowa, you get to South Carolina, which is in about four months for now, and I'm wrong, and we don't come close, we don't get to, God knows what I'll start it. I have no idea what number I'll start at, right? But I assume that it'll be low. But let's say I do the circuit and I get the message out there and people get, oh my God, your policies are so popular. Why aren't we doing those? Your voice is so strong. That's exactly what we want for the Democratic Party. Okay, great. Then I get to 20. I get to 25. I get the 35.
Starting point is 00:17:29 wonderful but if that doesn't happen and you get you lose Iowa and South Carolina decisively you're done you're it's not like you're dragging it out right and guys this is another huge part of this no one on the Democratic Party is fighting Trump I mean they're playing patty cakes with this guy the guy used Nazi words the other day about poisoning the blood of our nation the guy tried a coup attempt here for God's sake somebody fight him I'm not waiting for Chris Chris see to fight Donald Trump. I'm going to fight Donald Trump. I'm a Democrat. And so our job, and I got to, Joe, wake up. You're supposed to fight the guy. Here, I'll tell you this, guys.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Let's say we go a month, right? Month is not much at all. And I rise in the polls more than Biden does. What does that tell you? I mean, Biden is right now trailing the most unpopular politician of our lifetime, is Donald Trump. And he needs to be up five. So if Joe Biden surges, and now he's a He's up seven. Oh, great, Michigan, my bad, my bad, okay? Then you should say, hey, you know what? If he did this for me, I'm gonna vote for him. If it looks like he's gonna win, I'm gonna vote for him.
Starting point is 00:18:38 But why would you pick a guy that you know almost for sure is going to lose? So we're gonna put the voters to a decision. Can we win that decision? Yes, of course we can. Because the Democratic voters, because of mainstream media, have almost never heard a super strong Democrat that says, that says we are right on the issues. We should have $15 minimum wage.
Starting point is 00:19:01 We should have at a minimum public option. They're incredibly popular. They're not progressive radical positions, et cetera. They're progressive mainstream positions. They're centrist positions. And they've never seen a Democrat actually ripped a face off a Republican. So obviously rhetorical, right? These days you have to clarify that because of the Republicans.
Starting point is 00:19:22 But they put like, oh, my Joe Biden, you're gonna see it again. He's going to go on the campaign trail and like a schmuck, he's going to thank his Republican friends. Stop doing ads for them. I will not be doing ads for Republicans. I will be attacking Donald Trump and telling you what a spoiled little child he is and how he bankrupted every business he's ever been involved in. He's pathetically weak. I will fight for you, Seth.
Starting point is 00:19:46 That's what I'll do. Jankforamerica.com. But not only that, we already bought how Biden is going to lose.com. Biden's going to lose.com. So, okay, you're displaying your typical bombastic style. I am. Which, we know, which leads me to think about the actual kingmakers in every election. And those king makers are not either party, it's people who are undecided, the independent voters.
Starting point is 00:20:13 How do you propose to appeal to them? Oh, that's super easy. Okay, I thought you were gonna say kingmakers isn't donors. Okay, so that's the first layer of king makers. We can get to funding in a minute, but yeah, I am curious because, you know, I enjoy your boisterous, bombastic style. It's off-putting for others. I would venture to say some who identify as independence, maybe a little more
Starting point is 00:20:36 conservative leaning, but are open to democratic candidates. So look, here's what independence and even conservatives know they're gonna get with me, honesty, and authenticity. So I'm not gonna pull my punches when I don't agree with you. I'm gonna throw the punch, everybody knows that, right? So now you can say that's alienating, sure, fair, all right? But on the other hand, when I'm honest with them and I say, hey look, conservatives figured out that corruption was so bad that basically these things were, all these campaign contributions
Starting point is 00:21:07 are bribes. That's why they want to drain the swamp. They went in the wrong direction with Trump. I won't bend one inch on that, okay? You were wrong to go in that direction. Having said that, you were right that yes, corruption is totally out of control. And what other Democrat tells you that? Tell acknowledges, hey, Mitch McConnell raised a billion dollars. Every Democrat out there is going, yeah, oh man, corrupt son of a bitch, right?
Starting point is 00:21:29 And mainstream media was willing to begin to entertain that conversation. Nancy Pelosi also took a billion dollars. Is she an angel? No, it's not it's not about personalities. And I don't have anything against Nancy Pelosi on a personal level. But you took the billion dollars because you were going to serve those folks. And you did serve those folks. Now, independents know that and when the Democrats keep going, no, no, when we take the
Starting point is 00:21:55 corporate money, it's because we happen to agree with ExxonMobil. They lose all credibility, all ability to win independence. I would win more independent votes than any Democrat, it wouldn't even be close. And look, another thing is, Anna, as you know, and as we've taken some heat for here, our positions are what I call mainstream progressive, so they are not extreme left. And so, for example, one of the things that I'm animated about is crime. And I've had that debate with leftists online, God bless them, love them, brothers and sisters, okay?
Starting point is 00:22:28 But crime is real, it's not, people are not imagining it. And crime is, by the way, an iceberg for the Democratic Party. That's the second thing I'll warn you about. Look, you talk, and you don't trust my anecdotes, go do your own anecdotes. People outside of politics, get people inside politics, their brain has melted. They're like, oh, yes, whoever is the leader, yes, of course. If, oh, if you're losing by 24, that means you're going to win any second now. You're going to turn it around because Donald, because Joe Biden has so much charisma.
Starting point is 00:22:55 So you can't talk to people in politics. They don't, their brain is totally melted. But talk to real Americas. I did this weekend, you know, usual stuff, family, friends, etc. that are not involved in politics. So they said two things. I said, do you think Joe Biden's going to win? They all laughed out loud.
Starting point is 00:23:10 They're like, yeah, he's so old. So in politics, everybody's like careful. Like, oh, you, ages and this and that. I'm saying it out loud because the whole. country saying it out loud. He's too old. He's too old. We all know he's too old. And look, am I worried that it's beyond just too old? We're all worried that it's beyond just too old. The second thing they say, Anna, I asked them, and they happen to be Asian, and I said, if the Republicans weren't weirdly hateful, how many of you would vote for Republicans now?
Starting point is 00:23:43 And they all raise their hands. They're all Democrats. I said, why? They said, cry. crime, the migrant crisis, which they've provided absolutely no resources for and pretend like is no big deal as local communities are now fighting with scrap, for scraps among each other and the migrants who need to be sheltered and housed and everything. The Democratic Party is more interested in, you know, they're paying your dues, and respecting your elders type nonsense. Like I just, I really fail to understand how any potential Democratic candidate would see your run as a sign that they need to enter the race.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I really do, I don't see it. No, we got to knock Biden out. There's no other way around it. We have to knock Biden out. So now, the guys who are not running currently, yeah, they believe in authoritarian rules, right? if the dear leader, Joe Biden says, I don't care if I'm 90 or 200, you will bow. They bow. And that is not what a Democrat is supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:24:56 We're not supposed to bow down to authority. We're supposed to challenge authority. Well, they're doing it to protect our democracy, Jake. Oh, yeah, yeah. Democracy is under threat. Yeah, if you're, if you're one of those Democratic governors, don't you ever dare say that democracy is under threat and not run against the guy who has almost no chance of winning? We're giving the election to Donald Trump. I'm not going to do it.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I'll do anything to make sure that doesn't happen. By the way, if you agree, just it doesn't matter where your politics is. Just send in a dollar at jankforamerica.com as like a protest. Oh, please another candidate, please, me or anyone else. Okay, so in terms of how, I'm sorry, what was the question you were asking? Oh, the Democratic Party. Okay, yeah, so look, I hear you. That's the current state of the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Okay, now I'm going to say something that's whisper of a dream, right? I'm running to win. I'm running for a number of reasons, including to make sure that we get the best possible candidate, but I'm definitely running to win. And when people hear my message, I think they are going to be very excited that this message exists. Remember, people who watch mainstream media, I know it sounds shocking, but a lot of them have never heard this message, never heard that Joe Biden didn't even try the public option,
Starting point is 00:26:11 And that the public option is sitting at 68%. Two thirds of the country wants it. And the Democrats will not try. And so the dream that I'm whispering is, well, if I win, then we are the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party switches overnight from one that is weak, that won't fight Republicans, that won't do anything that makes sense, that is reasonable, that can win elections.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Overnight we switch to, we fight for things that are popular, the whole country's on our side on a huge number of issues, and we fight for them and we win. Imagine a Democratic Party that's strong. Jakeforamerica.com. Our viewer, General Lemon, has a question for you. I think we know the answer to this, but just want to put it out on the record, will you be taking any super PAC money? Yeah, no, no, no, you don't know the answer.
Starting point is 00:27:06 So here's the situation, guys. The DNC, and this is coincidental, but TYT reports broke this. Okay, this happened a little while back and we reported on it on Friday. So Candace Cole's the reporter for TYT reports in D.C. And she broke the story of how the DNC had a vote on keeping dark money out of the primaries. Okay. Now I'm massively in favor of taking dark money out of the primaries. If they pass that rule, I would be thrilled about following it.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Then later, and you would love this, they passed a resolution condemning dark money. So they voted in favor of dark money, but then condemn themselves for taking dark money. That's the current state of the Democratic Party. Okay, so if they're not going to, and they always say about the general elections, oh, we have to keep the money in politics because we're not doing unilateral discernment. Then I'm not doing unilateral disarmament. I don't know that I'm going to have a huge amount of big dollar donors that come in and create super PACs for me, but I might.
Starting point is 00:28:03 And if I do, God help you. Me with money, they're in a world of trouble. So if there's super PACs that come in and they do independent expenditures, have added, Haas, go for it. And if you don't like it, then make sure that there's no dark money in the Democratic primaries, which is a position that I want. Okay, look, I said this in my book. I'm going to, whether it's the packs that I formed, this presidential run,
Starting point is 00:28:29 whatever it is, I'm a battering ram. And eventually progressives will spend so much money. in politics. It'll be grassroots donors, the overwhelming majority of them. But we will collect them as Bernie did. He got over $200 million twice in presidential elections. We will collect that money and we will spend it to attack the establishment Democrats so much that they cry uncle. And they go, oh, no, no, no, no, no, we didn't want money in politics. Then we will take that money and we will crash it on top of the Republican Party's head until they cry uncle. And they get money out of politics to get our money out of politics.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Meanwhile, jinkforamerica.com. Look, guys, bottom line is, you either, look, I'm not spectacularly wealthy. Oh, God, I wish I was. If I was, I would spend so much money. I would make them cry. You want to have these super PACs go and attack progressives like Nina Turner? I would double anything of Super PACs spent if I had that kind of money. But for now, it's us together, guys.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Either you say, yeah, go get him, Jank, go get him, go to jankforamerica.com. You give a dollar, great, that's a protest against the current system. You want to give more fantastic. Whatever you have money you give, I am going to take that and put so much energy behind it. And I'm gonna amplify it, and yes, we can win that way. Well, we come back from the break, I want to talk a little bit about the fact that you are not an American-born citizen, you're a naturalized citizen. So there are some big obstacles and questions surrounding your eligibility to run for president. I got this.
Starting point is 00:30:05 We'll address that. I also want to address what your presidential run means for the show, which is my priority. So we'll talk about what that means for the main show and for the company when we return. Welcome back to TYT. interviewing Jank Yugar, who's just announced that he is running for president and challenging President Joe Biden in the primary. So, Jank, the big issue, the big obstacle kind of standing in your way is the fact that you were born in Turkey. You immigrated to the United States at eight years old. You are a naturalized citizen. But my understanding is that only U.S.-born
Starting point is 00:30:54 citizens can run for president. You disagree with that. Why? Yeah, the case law is completely on my side. So this conventional wisdom, we've all heard it. We heard it in eighth grade civics class and it stuck in our heads. It was an easy thing to remember, right? Oh, if you're not born here. And by the way, there's 25 million Americans who are naturalized citizens. And every one of us has heard about 200 times in our lives.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Ha ha, you can't run for president. Now look guys, the people who say that, they just remember it from school. They don't mean any harm by it, right? But for those of us who hear it, what we're hearing is, we're hearing is you're not really fully American. We don't trust you. You're from a different country. And so the reason that the founding fathers put that in the first place was because at the time they were worried about royal princes that come into the bloodline and we'll find a way to snake control away to a foreign government. That stuff's not at all relevant anymore. But
Starting point is 00:31:47 and it's obviously not fair. It's super not fair. There's Ted Lou who's in Congress now and who's a colonel in the Air Force. What is he not? He's loyal to Taiwan because he came when he was three, it's absurd. But none of that matters. The only thing that matters is the case law. And the Supreme Court has already ruled is Schneider v. Rusk. I asked you guys if you would do graphics. Do you have those graphics or no?
Starting point is 00:32:10 We do, yeah, let's put up. So yeah, and I wanted to show you guys this so you can see it with your own eyes. And thank you for humoring me on that. And so this is from a law review article in University of Illinois. And it shows you definitively that Schneider v. Rusk has already decided this issue. So they had an issue that came up where naturalized citizens were being treated different than natural born citizens. So here's what the court wrote, this is the Supreme Court in that case.
Starting point is 00:32:38 The statute proceeds on the impermissible assumption that naturalized citizens as a class are less reliable and bear less allegiance to this country than do the native born. This is an assumption that is impossible for us to make. Moreover, while the Fifth Amendment contains no equal protection clause, it does forbid discrimination that is so unjustifiable as to be violative of due process. A native born citizen is free to reside aboard indefinitely without suffering loss of citizenship. The discrimination aimed at nationalized citizens drastically limits their rights to live and work abroad in a way that other citizens may. It creates indeed a second class citizenship.
Starting point is 00:33:19 So the Supreme Court ruled it is unconstitutional to discriminate against naturalized citizens. This issue is actually already settled. Just no one knows it. So I'm gonna try to get this Albatross off of all of our next. If you're one of those 25 million Americans, that alone is a reason to go to jankforamerica.com and support what I'm doing because I'm gonna make, I'm going to try my best to make us all 100% citizens.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And I think the Supreme Court is clearly on our side. I'll read one last thing, thank you for again, for humoring me on this. The law review article of University of Eleanor concluded, this should be the end of the story. Schneider is clear that treating natural born citizens and naturalized citizens differently is contrary to the Fifth Amendment forbidding naturalized citizens from being president or vice president is a form of discrimination that limits their options and treats them as second class citizens. It is not permissible. It is unconstitutional.
Starting point is 00:34:18 So while I agree with that take, I certainly agree with that take, The Constitution also says the following. Okay, so this is Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the United States Constitution. No person except a natural born citizen or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution shall be eligible to the office of president. Neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of 35. years and been 14 years a resident within the United States. So Anna, it's a great question, especially because for folks who are not familiar with constitutional law. But although all of you will get it instantly, the amendments
Starting point is 00:35:07 obviously amend the original Constitution. Right. And when I just read to you in Schneider, is the Supreme Court said very clearly that the Fifth Amendment amended the Constitution to make naturalized citizens have the same exact rights because of due process. And later, Fifth Amendment jurisprudence in America also includes the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. So if you want to undo that, you'd have to wipe away a giant chunk of American jurisprudence, which they would have to go wildly against precedent to do. And so that part has simply been amended out of the Constitution. It is absolute clear in Schneider.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And by the way, if you're saying, yeah, but check, are you going to have the resources to be able to do this, they take this case of the Supreme Court. Yeah, it's a good question. Are you, are you lawyering up? Like, what's your plan? Because this will be challenged if you are seen as enough of a threat to the Democratic Party. No question. So I have lawyered up.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I have the same lawyer Bernie Sanders used in both of his presidential runs. And my guess is I'm going to have some strong allies in this. Arnold Schwarzenegger, I'm going to the Supreme Court. Either I'm going to win or I'm going to lose. Now, the case is on our side. Precedent is definitely on our side. So what are you gonna do, brother? Are you gonna sit on the sidelines?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Or by the way, not just Schwarzenegger, 25 million Americans, aren't you guys sick of this? We are, here, I'll give you one last example. Rahm Emanuel, born in America, but went and served in the Israeli defense forces. No problem, I got no beef with that, okay? But he can run for president. He served in a foreign army, but can run for president.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Patrick Bet David, right winger, okay, was on his show. He's a Christian Armenian from Iran. His family fled from the Iranian revolution. He was in the 101st airborne. He served in our army. So Patrick Bet David can't run for president, even though he served in our army. And what is this, does he owe allegiance to Iran that he ran from?
Starting point is 00:37:08 But Rahm Emanuel, who served in a foreign army can run for president. It makes no sense. 25 million Americans, jankforamerica.com. We're gonna win this case in the Supreme Court. We're gonna win it, and that alone is gonna make a giant difference. I'm sick of distance. The new BMO, V.I. Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more. More perks.
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Starting point is 00:37:50 more discrimination when we're guys this is really important for you to understand I'm on here as a guest and I'm on many other shows as a guest that when I do that I'm running for as for my campaign okay but when I'm on as a host that's my daytime job so some people are mechanics some people are for most of the people running there are usually some sort of lobbyist consultant disguises a politician etc right so for me I have to earn a living so I'm going to stay on the show, but I am not allowed to talk about things that are directly related to the Democratic primary.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I can comment about all the other news, and I can even comment about Biden and Harrison. By the way, if you notice in the last week, I've given Biden a ton of credit for some of the things that he's done, the student debt relief, the job numbers are great. I think I make a better case for Biden than he does, right? And that's part of why he's such a bad candidate, even though he, you know, has had some accomplishments. But so we we religiously are going to keep that separate, okay? I wanted to allow the audience to weigh in a little bit. I don't want to be all negative, so I'll read the positive comments as well, starting with 420JR man who says vote for
Starting point is 00:39:12 for Jank Uger, our POTUS 24. Progressive Bandito says Jank 2024, Fortnite Pro, aka Be Kind Dragon, says, I'm voting for you because we must win. Lisa Schuster, he needs to tell us how he pronounces his last name. Yeah, that's super fair. It's for those of you who are new to it,
Starting point is 00:39:31 and for a lot of people that are older to it, okay, it's, my name is difficult. Jank, this is pronouncing a J, Jank, and then Yuger, Jank Uger, okay? And it's jank for America.com. Yes, it's C-E-N-K for America.com, but don't worry, we got almost all the spelling. So you can spell it any way you like it, you'll probably get to us anyway. Patches, the Fury is concerned that you running in a Democratic primary is going to help Trump win. What is your response to that?
Starting point is 00:40:00 So two things, guys. I'm going to be the main Democrat in the race actually running against Trump. So, you know, nothing against Marianne Williamson, but her voice just can't get out, right? And it's not her fault, but it hasn't, right? But Biden refuses to run against Trump. He refuses to run against McCarthy and Scalise and all these guys. When's the last time you heard Biden take on Kevin McCarthy? Maybe never, right?
Starting point is 00:40:27 Isn't that amazing that the leader of the Democratic Party will not fight the Republicans? I'm going to get in the race, whichever show I go on, not just this show, but the other shows that'll have me on. I'm gonna explain. Donald Trump is a little tiny baby. He bankrupted six different companies. His daddy gave him money. Here, I have a nickname for Donald Trump already. See, already like no other Democrat would do that.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Oh, that's not classy. We just sit here and lose in a super classy way. Well, I'm not classy, okay? So his name from now on is spoiled Donnie. So spoiled Donnie got $413 million from his dad, and then he sucked his thumb until he lost it all. total, utter loser, the weakest man in America, the most insecure, most thin-skinned man in America. And he sucks at everything he does. Everyone, he had 40 out of 44 cabinet officials
Starting point is 00:41:18 that served under his term will not endorse him. Because if you're in a room with Donald Trump, you realize what a lunatic, what a madman. And now he's going around saying that he's going to destroy our government. He thinks he's going to suspend our Constitution. For God's sake, Democrats, run against Donald Trump. So that's what I'm going to do. And so, but guys, I promise And if it looks like, oh my God, no, the Democrats coalesce again, and they're like, no, we want to, we want to lose with Biden. We'd rather lose with Biden that have a real candidate. And besides who, Trump's going to do a giant tax cuts for corporations again, right?
Starting point is 00:41:53 So if they coalesce around them, and it looks like, look, I pounded this guy for three months and he's not going away. And I don't want to do damage. No, mission number one is beat Trump. Be Trump, beat Trump, beat Trump. So we're gonna do that together. If it's not working and it's not going in that direction, we're gonna get, we're not gonna do that, okay?
Starting point is 00:42:15 We're gonna fight super hard against Trump. No, I doubt you've even thought about this. So let's get ahead of ourselves a little bit. Reaper Dragon wants to know, if you were to win the nomination, would you consider Marianne as a running mate? And if not, who would you consider, Jenk 2024? Yeah, so, no, I don't,
Starting point is 00:42:34 I haven't picked the vice presidential candidate. But bless your heart for asking. Okay, so Marianne's wonderful, but guys, let's whisper of a dream. They're an amazing number of progressives in this country. Okay, sure, vice president, but think of Secretary of Labor, think of Secretary of the Treasury, think of the Secretary of State, Secretary defense, being progressives. I know I'm driving away establishment people. They're like, oh my God, they would do good in this country.
Starting point is 00:43:02 They were trying to help real people. Don't do that. That's what my guess is what the mainstream media will say. But I will give you the most spectacular cabinet you have ever seen. Jangforamerica.com. Solo 6, who resubscribe for 28 months. Thank you for that. Thank God someone is running for president that actually cares about the American people and not the American corporations.
Starting point is 00:43:25 So you are getting a lot of support from our audience. But Galfar 71 says, why would someone vote for you when you were already saying you aren't in it to win it. No, no, I'm in it to win it, brothers. So thank you for the question. So listen, there's layers to this, right? Layer number one is Biden's gonna lose, we need as many people in this race as possible. So now if I was a normal politician, I would say, no, I don't want other people in the race.
Starting point is 00:43:51 It's about me, me, me, me, me, that's how almost all politicians think, right? No, I'm telling you guys, I'm a proxy, let's go, let's get everybody in here. Now, does that mean I'm gonna leave when they get out? No, when they get in, I'm gonna kick their ass. And if I don't, and you pick one of them, great, no problem. I believe in democracy, I believe in primaries. But I also believe that I make a way better case with the Democratic Party than any of those guys do. Do any of those guys fight for you like I fight for you?
Starting point is 00:44:20 Are they gonna support the most popular policies and then tell you how they're gonna do it? I mean, we got paid family leave at 84%. So if you can't do that, you're saying I'm an incompetent party or I don't want to do that. So I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. First thing I'm gonna do is not pass the laws. I'm gonna pass the, I'm gonna do the thing that's gonna help pass the laws. I'm gonna call Chuck Schumer and say, you better fire that parliamentarian. If he or she is not fired by the end of the day, you're gonna have giant trouble.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Again, people on TV will go, oh, you can't do that. That is not polite. No, there ain't gonna be no filibuster. Well, I'm either gonna break those senators or they're gonna break me. But we're gonna end that filibuster. I mean, if a guy like me wins, that means we got a Democratic House, we got a Democratic Senate, and we're going to pass these damn laws. We're going to pass them, and there ain't nothing in the world that can stop me.
Starting point is 00:45:13 So look, guys, the one thing that if you watch Young Turks, but even if you don't, you know, is that I'm relentless. And, okay, I get knocked down all the time. It's not that I don't, that I have an endless string of victories. But have I done things when people thought it wasn't possible? So when I started this, we started in my living room. And if I told people then we're going to give 5 billion views a year, they would have laughed their ass off that they would have said, that's impossible.
Starting point is 00:45:39 If I said to them we're going to be the number one online news show, they would have said that's impossible. If I said to them, I'm going to be win an award for the best hosts on the entire internet. They would have said, this guy's lost his mind. If I said to them, I'm not going to work for Dan Rather, Dan Rather is going to work for me. So you've got to lock this guy up. How many impossible things do I have to do before maybe people begin to think, maybe it's not impossible.
Starting point is 00:46:03 And you know what my magic trick is? You guys. So I'll give you one last example, but I'll give you dozens. You got to be fast. Okay, MSNBC. When I announced that my nomination for being a host on MSNBC, my agent said it was so embarrassing he wanted to leave me. I eventually fired him. But we got that because of you guys. There isn't anything that we can't do together. Shankforamerica.com. Watch us. Watch what we do next. All right. Everyone, thank you so much for watching. Thank you, Jank. That does it for today's show, but we have a member-only bonus episode following this. So check that out. TYT.com slash join, and I'll see you there.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work, listen to ad-free, access members-only bonus content, and more by subscribing to Apple Podcasts at apple.com slash T-YT. I'm your host, Jank Yugar, and I'll see you soon. Thank you.

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