The Young Turks - CIA Hijacking - July 9, 2026

Episode Date: July 10, 2026

U.S. forces have struck more than 170 Iranian military targets over the past two days, dramatically escalating the conflict. And in other news, Cenk and Ana sit down with former CIA Officer and Whistl...eblower to discuss how big of a threat Israel is to the United States. Thanks to today's sponsors: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at shopify.com/tyt Get 40% OFF the Ground News Vantage Plan when you sign up at ground.news/tyt Stay informed without the media spin at ground.news/tyt Visit www.sleep.me/tyt to get up to $255 off your Chilipad 2.0 with code TYT Use less data, get paid by switching to Noble Mobile: https://go.tyt.com/getnoble Hosts: Ana Kasparian, Cenk Uygur SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞  https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK  ☞   https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER  ☞       https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM  ☞  https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK  ☞          https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH  ☞      https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. We must stop the terror. Now watch his drive. The guy! Jake Huger, Anna, Consparing with you guys. Hell was show for you guys tonight.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Really interesting developments that you might not have heard in the Grand Platner story and the Mitch McConnell story. Is he even alive? I mean, what an amazing circumstance that we find ourselves in where we can't trust anyone in government or anyone in media, and we have to wonder whether prominent senators are even alive, okay? And speaking of people who are alive or not, unfortunately, we do have tragic news in that the war has restarted. We're going to get to that in a second, but also on tonight's show, John Kiriaku, former
Starting point is 00:01:47 CIA officer, will join us. I should be a very interesting interview. He apparently thinks that I hate him. As far as I know, that's not true. So buckle up, fascinating interview today. How are you feeling, Casper? Hey, I'm feeling okay. It's my last, I have a little bit of senioritis, meaning it's my last day before I go away
Starting point is 00:02:09 for a week. So let's get the show on the road. Let's do it. You crazy? All right, let's go to the first story. So what you're watching here is footage of US strikes on Iran that were carried out on July 8th. By the time we're going live now, the US has struck Iran 170 times in the last two days.
Starting point is 00:02:33 So the war is definitively back on. And Iran is also striking us in Jordan and many other countries where we have bases. And of course, the Israelis are thrilled about what's happening. More war! They're psyched, and obviously it's a disaster for us, Iran and the rest of the the world, Anna has more facts. I sure do. And in fact, Israel isn't satisfied with simply going to war with Iran and having multiple theaters of war in the Middle East. They're, of course, still talking about the likelihood of going to war against Turkey. But let's focus on Iran for the
Starting point is 00:03:14 purposes of this discussion, because there was some confusion today following strikes that were seen in Chabahar in southern Iran. And at first, the thinking was, well, the United States has reignited this war. So those are U.S. strikes. But it turns out that the United States came out and said, actually, no, those were not our strikes. Then Israeli media confirmed that these bombings were carried out by Kuwait and Bahrain, meaning that some of our Gulf allies have decided to retaliate against Iran, even though Iran has been striking U.S. military bases in these countries. There were also some strikes in Avas, which is the capital of Iran's oil-producing province. And so the strikes that have been carried out by the United States this time around
Starting point is 00:04:02 appear to be a little more strategic than the seemingly indiscriminate bombing the U.S. was engaged in at the very beginning of this war. As for Israel, drop site news is reporting that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nanyahu said, the war with Iran is, quote, not over, while defense Minister Israel Katz said Israel is prepared to strike Iran again with even greater force if it deems it necessary. Katz said the Israeli military is prepared to resume fighting to regain air superiority and strike Iran again, including a third time if necessary, adding the campaign is not over. Now, it's unclear if or more importantly when Iran will retaliate against Israel, because Israel is the whole reason why this war started in the first place.
Starting point is 00:04:50 But so far, it doesn't appear that Iran has taken any hits at Israel. Now, U.S. Central Command said late night on Wednesday that on Wednesday they had struck about 90 military targets to further degrade Iran's ability to attack commercial shipping in the Strait of Hormuz. In fact, if you see the locations of the various U.S. strikes, it's very clear that these strikes are intended to, you know, weaken Iran's capability in attacking commercial vessels. Iran's health ministry said at least 14 people were killed and almost 80 people were injured over the first two days of the U.S. strikes. So I'm sure that death toll is probably going to
Starting point is 00:05:30 increase in the coming days. Now, Iran said that it did hit back with missile and drone strikes targeting U.S. military bases in Kuwait, Bahrain, and Qatar. Iran says, that the U.S. targeted railway bridges on the route to the holy city of Mashad, where, of course, the late Supreme Leader was due to be buried, buried. And they did continue on after a short delay with the ceremonies. But Iran's foreign ministry said that the attacks, while Khamene's six-day funeral procession was underway, signified Washington's inability to comprehend the depth of Iranians patriotism and loyalty to the revolution's ideals. And I should just say, I mean, if anything, what we have accomplished through this war,
Starting point is 00:06:21 jank is really getting the Iranians to rally around the flag. Because if you look at the footage of the various events having to do with Kamene's funeral, you'll notice that there are now tens of millions of people out on the streets. Now, additionally, a railway bridge in the town of Akala in the northeastern Golestan province was hit with cruise missiles, and that's according to Iran's revolutionary guards, who said there were no casualties. The line plays an important role in transit and trade with Central Asia and is part of an international corridor that links Iran, Turkmenistan, and Kazakhstan. So again, kind of providing more reinforcement to the notion that the U.S. is striking, you know, economic infrastructure, and it does look like these strikes are more strategic. A Tehran-based businessman, in fact, told the financial times the following that the rail line had been used while the U.S. was engaging in blockades of Iranian ports. He said when the blockade was on, people would use it, yet it has very limited capacity.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Each train from China, Shian in China would only carry about 3,800 tons. But attacks were also reported on electricity infrastructure in Chabahar and Karnarik in southeast Iran, causing three electricity transmission lines to go out of service and cutting off power to parts of the region. Now, if anyone is hoping that maybe things will kind of calm down a little bit and Trump will encourage you know, peace negotiators to get back to negotiating. Ben Shapiro is making clear that he is vehemently against it. And in fact, he thinks it makes us look weak if we are pursuing diplomatic means to end this war. He has a different idea in mind. Let's take a listen. So what exactly could be done? Well, first, we could force open the straight. I know,
Starting point is 00:08:19 we haven't even tried it. We didn't try it. We could do it. We could. If you think that the U.S. military does not have contingency plans for opening the straight of Hormuz, along with our allies, you're out of your mind. We do. We just decided we didn't want to because we got chicken with Saudi. And we were told by our magical negotiators that a deal was in the offing, which was a lie. It wasn't true. And we could open the straight. We could destroy Harga Island, which is their oil export facility. We could destroy the South Pires gas field. We could basically put their economy on unsupportable legs. We could put the regime into its death throws. Those are all things that.
Starting point is 00:08:57 we could do. Or we could just walk away and let our allies do any or all of those things. We could do any of those things. But here's the thing we should not do. Demonstrate weakness by going back to the table and pretending, once again, that they are reasonable, rational people. How many of you guys are guilty of doom scrolling late at night on social media, looking at the news and then wondering why you can't fall asleep? Nothing pairs worse with trying to wind down than a bright screen lighting up your face and headlines playing on a loop in your head. Here's what's actually happening. The stress, the screen time, it all raises your core body temperature. And a body that's too warm can't get into deep sleep. Trust me, getting your sleep environment under control can change
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Starting point is 00:10:24 That's www.sleap.m.m.m.m.m. t-y-t. Free shipping, free returns, and a 30-night trial so you can test it out, dream big, and wake up better. The headlines will still be there in the morning. You might as well wake up ready for them. In order to take control of the Strait of Hormuz, we would need to dedicate, I mean, the troop commitment for that type of operation, because it's not just about snatching control. maintaining control and we do not have the troops necessary to make that happen. Additionally, Tom Nichols over at the Atlantic of all places, which shocked me, has the complete opposite take from Ben Shapiro. In fact, he writes that the president is still considering two terrible ideas. First, he has returned to talking about seizing Carg Island, an operation that would require
Starting point is 00:11:19 a considerable commitment of ground forces and inevitably lead to U.S. casualties. Second, he has again raised the possibility of striking Iran's infrastructure, including bridges and desalination plants. Such installations, he writes, if they are significantly contributing to Iran's military effort, might be considered legitimate targets. Trump, however, seems to have in mind emmiserating the civilian population as a means of driving the regime to the table, which would be a serious violation of the laws of war. But the one thing I disagree with Nichols-on in this analysis, Jank, is I don't think the U.S. was ever serious about a peace deal. I think it was all lies. I think J.D. Vance, the vice president, was being honest when he said, you know, the MOU is really about getting the oil flowing again and basically preparing for more kinetic warfare against Iran. That's exactly what happened. That was the plan from the very beginning. There was never any real good faith effort at peace here. Yeah, so first let's start with Israel first and Ben Shapiro. So of course, what does he want? More war.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And who does he want it from? Us. So I don't know if these people are still even bothering to pretend to be Americans or care about American interests. So that whole segment, of course, was you have to do what Israel wants. And Israel always wants more war. But of course, we are the victims. And we are doing self-defense.
Starting point is 00:12:52 What does Iran have to do with self-defense? Nothing, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. The Israelis have ordered war and we have more war. And every time in the media they will tell you, oh, it's just a coincidence. Just a total and other coincidence that we do exactly what Israel wants nearly 100% of the time. Oh, hey, look, it's 98%. We sold some planes to Turkey that they didn't want. Oh, see that?
Starting point is 00:13:16 You have 2% freedom left. Congratulations Americans. But of course no one else points out that Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, Laura Lumer, never argue for American interests. They always pretend that American interests are identical to Israel's interests. Very coincidentally, no two allies have identical interests, and Israel and America have nothing that is similar here. We don't, like Hamas and Hezbollah, I hate to break into American media who think Hamas
Starting point is 00:13:41 and Hezbollah are the biggest problems America faces. They're not anywhere near us. And outside of Israel, they're not even our enemies. They have no reason to be our enemies other than, no, you must all do everything Israel commands you to do. Attack their neighbors, attack their enemies. No, no, Israel's not Uncle Sam and they, God damn it, man. So anyway, so now we're back into this disastrous war, of course the question that Anna asked
Starting point is 00:14:09 is the one that everybody's asking, which is, is this, you know, back to war permanently? Or is this another one of these flare-ups? And then we go back to pretending there's a ceasefire, more flare-ups, and it goes on and on and on. And to what end, right? So if we want to deal with the Iranians, we already have the outline for a deal. Just do the damn deal, do the damn deal, right? But no, no, no, no, must obey, must kneel to a foreign government. So in this case, there's two different issues.
Starting point is 00:14:39 One is the Omani route, and that's the route that some of the ships were taking that Iran has not authorized. So Iran hits them on the Omani route. I don't know if they should have hit them or not hit them. That's not my business, okay? And so if you want to be pissed about that, so that's a violation of the ceasefire, fine. At the same time, we have been violating the ceasefire nonstop because part of the MOU is that Israel must withdraw from Lebanon. And Israel has already said, we're never going to do that.
Starting point is 00:15:07 We're going to steal southern Lebanon for greater Israel, right? And if you think I'm exaggerating, no, Israel cats, many other ministers in their cabinet and in Netanyahu said they are not withdrawing. They're not going to withdraw during the so-called ceasefire. They're not going to withdraw afterwards. And very, very, very likely to be based on their statements. They are never going to withdraw because this is all about land expansion for an obviously fascist empire in the middle of the Middle East with weapons of mass destruction.
Starting point is 00:15:35 That is a huge danger to the world. But this time we're on the fascist side and it breaks my heart as an American. We should not be on the side of darkness and the ones that are in. invading and attacking all of their neighbors and taking their land. So, but we have to do all their dirty work for them, because everybody in Washington says, if you don't serve Israel, you're an anti-Semite and your life should be destroyed and pulverized. So now, we've got more people involved in this war. You know, they hit the northern railways.
Starting point is 00:16:04 So there's a couple of possibilities as to why hit the northern railways. One is the economic reasons. The other is, well, the funeral procession was going to go in that area. and a lot of the other countries in the Gulf are Sunni and Iran is Shiite. So maybe they want to send a message, oh yeah, we don't respect your grand Ayatollah that's the head of the Shiite sect of Islam. Shiites and Sunnis have been fighting for literally over a thousand years. So that could have something to do with it.
Starting point is 00:16:34 But overall, we're right back in the soup, right back in the mess. 170 bombs is, bombing runs is an enormous amount. That is not a slight tweak. And so is this just about the Omani route and hey, we get a little bit back and forth and then cool down for a minute? I mean, I hope so, but it doesn't look like it because this is not like the other bombings during the sea spires. The other bombings would be two, three, four bombs, send a message both Iran and the US.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Iran did the same thing here, try to send a message two, three bombs in the Omani route on ships. And America said, no, 170, right? alone the Kuwait, Bahrain, and whoever else bombed northern Iran. So right now it looks like full scale war. You know, Trump is of course a maniac, so he says two different things at all times. He said the ceasefire is over and we're back to war. And then today he said, oh, the Iranians called and they're begging to go back to a ceasefire. That's a total lie.
Starting point is 00:17:36 It's corroborated by zero people, total imagination fantasy of a boy. borderline lunatic that's our president. So is our, is the ceasefire over? Or are we about to go back in the ceasefire? Well, Trump tells you both things, that's obviously impossible. And again, he's a raving madman. So we have a raving man man who listens to a fascist government and none of these people care 1% about American interests.
Starting point is 00:18:00 So likely you'll all be forced back into the war and all the terrible consequences that flow from that. And then later they'll pretend that it had nothing to do with Israel and oh, golly, gee. You know, it's just a coincidence that we follow their orders every single goddamn time. Okay, so a little bit of background info that I think is really relevant to kind of figure out what's going on right now. The war is on and anyone who's trying to downplay it by calling it a military operation or pretending like we still have a ceasefire is delusional. Like I'm, I think that we have degraded, like people's minds in this country have been degraded because we've redefined. what it means to be in war.
Starting point is 00:18:43 What we're experiencing right now is a war. Okay, Iran did not violate any MOU. Okay, they just, they didn't. The MOU makes clear that they will maintain control of the Strait of Hormuz. The United States was trying to do some tricky, Paziki nonsense of having ships transit through the strait on the Omani side in order to basically ensure that Iran cannot establish the approved routes for these ships to travel through.
Starting point is 00:19:15 And look, here's the thing. Trump wants the war to end, but he doesn't want to accept the fact that the United States lost. This was a dumb war, which is why every previous administration that was being pressured by Netanyahu to enter this war refused to do so. Every other administration was intelligent enough, and we don't have a lot of intelligent administrations in this country, let's just keep it 100.
Starting point is 00:19:37 But they were smart enough to know. No, if we attack Iran, this is a country that has a far more superior military capability than Iraq did. The land mass is larger, the terrain is more challenging, and they're gonna shut down the strait of Hormuz. We're not gonna do it. But Trump was stupid enough to do it. Now, why? Well, because he has morons in his ear who play him like a fiddle. And so Alex Ward over on X reported the following.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Israel shared new intelligence with the US that it said indicated a fresh Iranian plan to kill President Trump. People familiar with the matter said. Iran for years has vowed openly to retaliate against Trump for the assassination of Qasem Soleimani. So basically you have the Israelis in Trump's ear and then Yahoo has done this before. You know, he did a press tour where he purported that the Iranians have an active plot to assassinate Trump. Well, he was just in Trump's ear again. And this is what happens with Trump. He makes decisions on the fly. He's unhinged.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And now we find ourselves in another war or the war reigniting. And the global economy is going to crash, Jank. Like that's the big issue here. Okay, the Iranians, they win simply by surviving. And time is on their side. Everyone knows that. The longer this war goes on, the longer the straight of war moves. is closed, the worse it's going to be for the global economy. And to get things flowing again,
Starting point is 00:21:13 you don't just snap your fingers and it happens. Let's say the war ends today. It's still going to take months for things to normalize in the strait, which is why it was so incredibly important to end the war immediately. But no, we're back on. And so Israel, you're right, ecstatic. They've been wanting this. But the global community is going to be furious with Israel because everyone knows that this war began thanks to Israel. And what's Israel gonna do? Oh, you guys are just a bunch of Jew haters. It's not that we've like destroyed the world with our blood lust and absolute, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:48 desire for endless conflict. Yeah. So look, I'm done trying to prevent it. I tried my hardest. We all tried our hardest. And before the first war, before the second war, before the reigniting the third, you know, portion of the war, but Israel totally controls Washington. So there's nothing we can do, guys. It doesn't matter. Even if you all voted against incumbents tomorrow, there's not enough primaries left. They beat Thomas Massey, so that means that the Republicans 100% serve Israel. The Democrats are now panicking a little bit because they're beginning to lose their elections
Starting point is 00:22:26 for serving Israel. But it's too late. Whatever the consequences are going to be, it's going to happen. And, you know, so just we're occupied and that's why we're being forced into this war. And they could cry about it all day long. I don't care about them at all. Everybody in Washington is a bunch of liars that constantly try to manipulate you into believing that we're not occupied by Israel when it's the most obvious fact in the world. And one of the consequences that's going to happen to Anna's point is that, yeah, Our media can keep trying to brainwash people like a bunch of obvious propagandists,
Starting point is 00:23:05 but our cable news doesn't go to the rest of the world. And the rest of the world can see things super clearly. Yeah, there's tons of Israeli propaganda in some of the European countries and Western countries as well. But it's not as thick as it is here. And in the rest of the world, it barely exists. So, no, everybody knows this war is 100% for Israel. The only people that don't believe that are people who are brainwashed by our Israeli media in this country, pretending to be American media.
Starting point is 00:23:35 So they're all going to be furious at Israel because the economy is going to suffer terribly through this war. And so let's see where the consequences wind up. I hate it. I don't want it. I don't want there to be any consequences. I don't want there to be any war. But it's baked in now.
Starting point is 00:23:51 It's over. And so, and should you be mad at the people who brought you this war? Obviously, and then they say, I've now started seeing on social media, Jenk, you can't say that the war's consequences should be laid at the feet of the people who started the war. So they know terrible consequences are coming. And they don't want it blamed on the people who started. Who started it?
Starting point is 00:24:13 American politicians who are disgustingly corrupt and are traitors to this country, disgustingly corrupt American media who's always, oh, we'll learn this is from Iraq. Oh, yeah, but not fake weapon as a mass. Right back to fake weapons of mass destruction, serving Israel, not having learned. There's no lessons to learn to corrupt. They work for a different country. It's so obvious if you're not hypnotized and brainwashed by American slash Israeli media. And so, yeah, and of course, Israel, it is definitely, definitely their fault.
Starting point is 00:24:51 And when their economy goes south, and when we have more Americans returning in coffins, yes, you should definitely be furious at the Israeli government. They are not our allies. I believe there are our enemies that have decided that they're going to take every dollar and every part of our military and they don't care about interest at all. But that's why I'm more angry at American politicians and media, because they're supposed to look out for their own country. Yeah, they're a fascist, war-mongering country that is totally out of control and an obvious
Starting point is 00:25:26 pariah state who have brutalized in a disgustingly fascist way the Palestinians for the last 58 years, as every liar in American slash Israel media here in America has told you that the Palestinians are the terrorists. No, the Israelis are the terrorists that are terrorizing the entire planet. And they brought you this war, and when this war goes disastrously, yes, you should be furious at Israel. And then they'll say, oh, just because we murdered all these people and started terrible wars that destroyed your life, how dare you criticize us?
Starting point is 00:26:03 No, bow your head to us, they'll say, well, no one's bowing anymore. No one's bowing anymore to a foreign government like Israel. You want to get us to bow? We won't. We're Americans and we're proud and we hate that our government is captured by this tiny nation, yes, with tons of billionaires on their side. that are using that money to totally buy our media and our Congress. Those are facts, young Turks.
Starting point is 00:26:31 We'll be back with Kiriakou, super interesting interview. Going forward is keep fighting forward, okay? But we don't fight with arms and physical and anything of that, right? We fight with love, we fight with peace, we fight with hope and belief and faith in one another. And we do that's right, with knowledge and facts and truth and things that are real. objective reality matters. So much of our audience, scientists, teachers,
Starting point is 00:27:08 engineers, data analysts, people who believe in objective reality, right? So thank you guys for believing in that. Thank you for believing in hope and thank you you for making it happen. I appreciate all of them. I really love what y'all do on the Young Turks, man.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And it's just, it's a very refreshing, you know, voice. You know, y'all don't lean to one side. I tell people all the time, If you want to go really hear what's going on honestly and in our society, you should tune in to the Young Turks. Thank you, Charlemagne. We appreciate that. That's awesome. Really appreciate that. In the bonus episode for members, we do things that are really productive and healthy and good for you, like fruit.
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Starting point is 00:30:26 He's a former CIA officer and a whistleblower who blew the whistle on torture that we were doing inside the government and has won several awards, including Counterterrorism Service Medal Meritorious Honor Award, CIA Exceptional Performance Award, CIA Sustained Superior Performance Award, and has a number of books out. John, welcome to the show. Thank you so much, Shank. You know, you and I have never had a chance to actually meet. And you did me a solid many years ago by talking about my very first smuggled out letter from prison. You read it on the air and I've always been very appreciative.
Starting point is 00:31:03 That's interesting, okay. So I saw, look, we're gonna get into super important things about like who does the CIA actually work for. But first, I saw a clip where you said that I had railed against you. Do you know where that came from? That never happened. Hold on. Pause because I set this up, okay? I came across the clip and I was like, oh no, but I like John Curiaku a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Like, what's the beef? So this is the clip. What was it? Okay, this is the moment. Take a look. Hassan Piker's mother, mother's maiden name is Uyghur. And I wondered if he was related to Chen Kweger. Michael Gardner's telling us that he's Czech Uyghur's nephew.
Starting point is 00:31:43 It's funny, Chank Wiger has never really been a friend of mine either. The second thing I ever did that got wide press coverage after blowing the whistle, it was my open letter to my supporters from prison that became my first letter from Loretto. That's when Jake Tapper came to the prison to interview me. The response was universally positive and interested except for Chank Wigger. Chen Weger just for 30 minutes just ripped me. And I never understood that because back then, you know, I probably agreed on 95% of the issues with Chenk Weger. Like, why is he attacking me like this?
Starting point is 00:32:28 But it's just as easy. I've never been able to draw a beat on Chen Quigar. I mean, I wanted to, I kind of felt like I should have been friends with him. He's one of those guys. It's like an unrequited bromats where you're sort of like, you reach out. you're like, we should be buds. We agree about a lot of stuff. And then, you know, they never called.
Starting point is 00:32:46 They never write. Okay. It can be requited now. So, John, what in the world was that? I don't know. No, it was a mistaken identity thing because I became obsessed with figuring out what it was and I went through our archives and no such thing exists. So it must have been a mistaken identity.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And maybe there is a chink weaker out there somewhere who did attack you. I want to apologize for that because I think I must have been temporarily insane or something. That had to be, that's what I'm going with. Yeah, yeah, no, no, don't sweat it. Mistaken identity, no big deal. Okay, let's get to serious stuff. So look, John, the main thing that I've been wanting to ask you for a long time is do we even have a CIA?
Starting point is 00:33:30 So what I mean by that is the CIA seems to let Israel run wild inside this country. And so espionage to no end stole our nuclear secrets, our uranium, our nuclear triggers, are all of our top secrets. And yet we're like, oh, they're our best allies. And we let them run. And in fact, one more, you know, Epstein was part of Iran, Contra. And so it's not like the CIA is not aware of what's happening here. And so does it exist or is it just simply the Mossad?
Starting point is 00:34:02 You know, it's changed a lot over the years in that when I'm, I first joined the CIA, we did not like the Israelis at all. They were spying on us. They made it clear. They openly spied on us. They would bring us gifts that had listening devices embedded in them to the point where they were not allowed in the building. We had to rent space to do our liaison meetings with them because they just simply were not permitted to come into the headquarters building. Well, that was, what, 35 years ago? And now all of a sudden, they're being, like, embedded with the CIA, that there's a provision
Starting point is 00:34:48 in the National Defense Authorization Act for 2027 that co-locates them with the Pentagon and then allows even closer, like Five Eyes style liaison with the CIA. And then at the same time, just two weeks ago. NBC News reported that the director of DIA, the defense intelligence agency, had to send out an all-hands email saying that the Israelis are being unusually aggressive right now in trying to recruit assets inside DIA, that all DIA employees need to be extra careful. So what are we doing here? Either either the Israelis are ranked as critical threat for counterintelligence, which is what they were when I was there, along with the Russians, the Chinese, the Cubans, and the North Koreans, or were joined at the hip. But it can't be both. So here's my follow-up question for you on everything that you just said.
Starting point is 00:35:51 What changed? Is it blackmail? Like how did our government and not just the CIA, how did our government go from understanding the risks of being associated with the Israelis, understanding that they spy on us, understanding that while we may say that there are allies, in reality they act like our adversary. So what changed? Do they have dirt on powerful people in our government? I mean, I'm asking you to speculate or maybe you know something we don't know. Yeah. No, they probably do. But I think it's I think it's broader and more nefarious than that in that this is really a political change. You know, the last any Arab leader will tell you, and many have told me or I've been in the room when they've told the American ambassador, the last American president to give the Arabs a fair shake was George H.W. Bush, the last one. They loved George H.W. Bush. They loved Kennedy and they loved Eisenhower. And everybody else has been a Zionist in terms of policy. Well, we've had a string of Zionist presidents. And they just keep the Israelis keep chipping away little by little by little, not just in the White House, but on Capitol Hill through A-PAC. And they've gotten us to the point where if you disagree, not just with Israeli policy,
Starting point is 00:37:13 if you disagree with Benjamin Netanyahu as a person, you are labeled as anti-Semitic. Of course. Decades to get to that point, but they did it. Yeah, so John, more follow-ups here. So first of all, on your point about disagree with Netanyahu, only a third of Jewish Americans agree with Netanyahu, two-thirds are against them. So apparently two-thirds of Jews in America are anti-Semitic by this ludicrous definition, ludicrous.
Starting point is 00:37:38 And it's obvious- And may I add something to that? Yeah. Because of the party system in Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu has never won more than 27% of the vote. in Israel. So are we supposed to assume then that 73% of Israelis are anti-Semitic? Yeah. It's outrageous. Yes, and I could list other historic leaders that did not win a majority, but one around that number, and then went on to do great damage. So, okay, now our press, I believe is mainly Israeli propaganda. Why do I say that? Because they keep telling us that
Starting point is 00:38:13 things are normal. So I just want to do a quick checklist with you to see if these things are normal. So they keep saying, oh, our ally is doing espionage to the point where they are stealing our most sensitive technology and intelligence and using it to build weapons of mass destruction and doing it over and over and over again is perfectly normal. Is that really normal? No, of course not. And if it was any other country in the world, we would be on the brink of war with them right now. I mean, forget allies, we'd be on the brink of war with them. Okay, so then number two, they say, oh, to merge our militaries, as you're talking about
Starting point is 00:38:51 section 219 and the technology and so that they could take one now soon to be one and a half trillion dollars of money we're spending on defense, and they get the entire benefit of that for free. They say that's all perfectly normal, we constantly are merging our militaries with allies. Is that normal? We're merging our militaries with the closest allies that we have in the world, very specifically, the British, the Canadians, the Australians, and the New Zealanders. You know, we've got good relations with the rest of the members of NATO, as one example. Israel's not in NATO.
Starting point is 00:39:28 We have close relations with most European Union countries. Israel's not a member of the European Union. And then just a couple of weeks ago, the Israeli defense minister said publicly in an interview that Israel's next war would be against Turkey. Well, guess what? Turkey's a member of NATO. And if there were to be hostilities between Israel and Turkey and Turkey invoked Article 5 of the NATO charter, an attack on one is an attack on all, the United States would have to go to war with Israel to defend Turkey.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Is the United States going to go to war with Israel? Of course not. And so what happens, the Israelis then successfully destroy NATO. Is that really the road we want to go down? Not normal. Last one, last one. So yeah, so dozens of Israeli spies were arrested after 9-11. I'm not asking about why they were arrested or what they did. But they were arrested and they were definitively Israeli spies. And then we just let them go free. Is that normal? Yes. That actually is normal. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Normally, normally if, let's say an American spy gets caught in a friendly country, you know, publicly we deny, deny, deny that this person is a spy, we deny. And then secretly, quietly, we go to the station chief will go to the head of the service and say, listen, he's my guy, you busted us, do me a favor here and just let him go. And then quietly, they'll let him go. They may make him cool his heels for a week or two. but eventually they're going to let him go. The reason why, I'm speculating here, I believe that the reason why there were so many
Starting point is 00:41:08 Israeli spies arrested in New York in the days after 9-11 is that the Israelis had advanced warning of 9-11 and didn't tell us. And that was a policy decision. We asked every ally in the world. We begged them if they had any sources inside al-Qaeda, please help us. because we knew this massive attack was coming, but we didn't know when and where. We knew it was going to be giant. We just didn't know when and where.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I believe that the Israelis did know that they had infiltrated al-Qaeda, but they didn't tell us because they wanted us to attack al-Qaeda. They knew that if we were attacked, that we would overreact like we did, we would launch a war that lasted 20 years, we would kill 2 million Muslims, which we did, and spend something like 6. something trillion dollars on national defense. You know, just like they knew chaos in Iraq was good for Israel. Chaos in Libya was good for Israel. Chaos in Syria was good for Israel.
Starting point is 00:42:18 And now chaos in Iran is good for Israel. It hasn't changed since 9-11. Cancer on our globe, honestly. So you just said something very provoked. something that I alluded to in one post on X once. And I didn't even allude to it as aggressively as you just did. I just noted the, you know, five Israelis who got arrested because they were seen celebrating the World Trade Center getting attacked.
Starting point is 00:42:44 And I was like, whatever happened with this? Like, what is this? And there is evidence that the Israelis had foreknowledge. So can you, can you get into that a little bit? Because I think it's important for members of our audience who might not know what that evidence is. is and why so many people have believed that the Israelis had four knowledge. Yeah, dozens of Israelis were, were Israeli citizens were arrested by NYPD officers on September 11th and in the days after September 11th, mostly for photography, for taking pictures of
Starting point is 00:43:19 sensitive sites, taking pictures of the World Trade Center, things like that, or making comments about the attacks. And so they were picked up and they were held on suspicion of, you know, something national security related. And finally, the Israelis came to us and said, listen, these are our guys. Just let them go, right? They're worried about you. They were worried about the World Trade Center.
Starting point is 00:43:45 They didn't mean any harm. I think they were there just to sort of document what was happening because they knew it was going to happen. In the months before 9-11, I was working in the CIA's counterterrorism center at the time. And in the months before 9-11, the leadership of the counterterrorism center was scrambling. I happened to be entertaining a group of Middle Eastern intelligence officers one day. It was July the 6th, 2001. And Kofar Black, the director of the counterterrorism center, came into my meeting. shocked me. I jumped up at attention. And I said, oh, gentlemen, this is Kofa Black. He's the director of the
Starting point is 00:44:31 CIA's counterterrorism center. And Kover minced no words. He said something terrible is going to happen. We don't know what. We don't know where. We don't know when. But we know it's going to be an attack on a massive scale. And he went into some detail with them. And he said at the end of his little talk, I'm begging you, he said, if you have. any sources inside al-Qaeda, please help us. Well, the truth was, we didn't have any sources inside al-Qaeda. And that's why we needed help from liaison. But they didn't. The other Arab countries didn't, the Gulf countries didn't. The Pakistanis either didn't or wouldn't tell us. And the Israelis just sat back and waited for it all to happen. And then came and said,
Starting point is 00:45:17 we are one with you, America, we are with you. Well, they knew exactly what was going to happen. And then eight years later, under Obama, we began arming al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria. That's right. That's exactly right. So, John, I just want to ask one more follow-up about that because, so I call this, oops, it got past the goalie, right? So, and, and I like, of course, our press never talks about it. They all pretended everything is a conspiracy theory. I believe that the phrase conspiracy theory was actually concocted after the Kennedy shooting to just call everything that was against the official government position, a crazy lunatic thing to believe,
Starting point is 00:46:01 etc. But okay, so, but I could never square. Well, you know, if there was a conspiracy and there was, did they really kill all the people on the planes and how did they get the Arabs to do the thing that they want to, blah, blah, blah. And then many, many, many years later, in fact, after October 7th, I realized, oh, you know, this is actually potentially easier than I realized. just find plots and you probably intelligence, and that's why I'm asking you, find plots all the time. And if you want one of them to be successful for political reasons, you go, oh, I just got past the goalie. There's nothing I could do. So is it possible that October 7th was another one of those? Oh, listen, call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think that's exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:46:45 We know now in retrospect that for two weeks before October 7th, Israelis who were living in settlements along the line, the border with Gaza, were reporting back to the Ministry of National Security that something was happening in Gaza. And Idemar Ben-Gavir said, no, nothing is happening in Gaza. The next attack is going to be in the West Bank. And it was Idemar Ben-Gavir who ordered that government, what's the word I want to use, that assets were being used, government assets were being used against possible cells in the West Bank. Well, there was nothing happening in the West Bank. And these settlers were saying, look, the Gaza Palestinians are flying kites along the border. They're releasing balloons.
Starting point is 00:47:39 They're checking wind speeds. their chatter on the walkie-talkies. No, you're wrong. It's going to be in the West Bank. So I think, boy, I really like that, you know, slip by the goalie. I think I might steal that because I think that is exactly what happened. Here we go.
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Starting point is 00:48:19 How did Jameson to your match day lineup? Jameson, it's what you bring. Please enjoy our products responsibly. Yeah, I mean, and the fact that it took six hours for the IDF to respond. And, you know, just fast forwarding to the moment that we're in now, I just can't get over the incredibly weak in pathosal. arguments that are being made by individuals who have been corrupted with money from the Israel lobby, essentially arguing that we must merge our militaries.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Because the IDF, I mean, how could we give up this opportunity to take advantage of their expertise and their superior operations? They took six hours to respond to October 7th. And then killed the Israelis. And then killed their own, exactly. that we're in cars trying to evacuate the area. Yeah, you know, one thing that that most mainstream outlets don't talk about is that the Israelis are already in the United States training local police departments.
Starting point is 00:49:21 We know, for example, that the Israelis are training the Atlanta police, that this area now called Cop City is the site of Israeli police and Israeli IDF training our own police. I don't want the Israelis training American police department. the Israelis have no respect for human rights or civil rights or civil liberties. And so, look, this is a country that has that has bombed seven of its neighbors in the past year. Is that really the country that we want to throw our lot in with? I would say no. So, John, Pete Hagseth wrote in his book that the IDF should be in American streets.
Starting point is 00:50:00 So there's so many Israeli assets inside our government that it's unbelievable. So, okay, which brings me back to Section 29. So you mentioned it earlier. We used to be called Section 224 now is 219 going into the National Defense Authorization Act. They tried it with no vote before. Now there's a more of a uprising against it. Of course, as usual, Rokana, Tom Massey leading the charge against it.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And as usual, 94% of Congress saying, no, no, no, no, we serve Israel loyally. So tell us about the dangers of merging our technology with Israel's and why this should be completely unacceptable to the American people? You know what, Chank, I'll start, I'll start back from my very first week in the CIA, January of 1990. That first week, you just sit in the auditorium and you get briefing after briefing after briefing from, you know, the director comes and congratulates you. Then you hear from the head of HR and the head of health insurance and the head of life
Starting point is 00:51:00 insurance and the director of security. And the director of security gave us a couple of, you know, kind of real life. day to day pointers, don't ever eat in this steakhouse down the street from the CIA because the KGB thinks we all eat there and every table is taken by KGB, for example. I've never been in there. But another thing he said, and this is dated, it's 1990, but I would venture to say that it's worse today than it was in 1990. He said that there were two official Israeli intelligence representatives in Washington.
Starting point is 00:51:32 This was at the Israeli embassy in Washington. It was one person from Assad and one person from Shinbet, okay? And they carry out liaison. But the FBI was able to identify 187 Israeli spies spread out all across America, mostly infiltrating American defense contractors to steal our secrets. It didn't end with the arrest of Jonathan Pollard. And he said, Israel is critical threat for kids. counter intelligence along with Russia, China, Cuba, and North Korea. And I think Iran may have been
Starting point is 00:52:11 on the list at the time too. And Israel. And I'll give you another example. When we came up with this ill-advised F-35, the Israelis came to us first and said, we want the F-35. And we said, great, we're going to give you the F-35. We're going to slightly degrade the avionics because, God forbid, one gets shot down and the Russians or the Chinese, you know, get it in Syria or Iran or whatever. So we're going to call the F-35 I, I for Israel. The Israelis said, no, we want your F-35. We don't want any I with degraded avionics. At the same time, the Emirates came to us, and they said, we want this new F-35. And we said, great, we'll give you the F-35 with slightly degraded avionics because, God forbid, one should be shot down, and the Russians or the Chinese,
Starting point is 00:52:59 the Iranians get it. We're going to call it the F-35E for Emirates. The Emirates gladly took the F-35E. The Israelis sent their spies all over the defense sector to steal the avionics so that when they finally got the F-35I, they could upgrade them on their own. And that's the country that we want side by side with our people in the Pentagon and the CIA and God forbid NSA or DIA. When the Director of DIA is warning every single employee that they are unusually aggressive against us right now, the Israeli Mossad. Yeah. And that people have to be extra careful.
Starting point is 00:53:39 So that brings me back to what we started with, John, which is, is the CIA still American? Because they don't act like it. And so all this espionage is going on, it's super obvious that it's the Israelis. And it doesn't seem like we're doing a damn thing about it. We're just letting them run wild in this country. And I wanna go back to Epstein because we know that Epstein was part of Iran-Contra. He helped clean seemingly with Mossad.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And now I'll let you talk about how much you know about that, right? But also, okay, so the CIA at that moment knows Epstein seems to be with Israeli intelligence because we just did a deal with him. We just did a deal with him. Then they let Epstein rape girls in this country for decades afterwards. So is the CIA working for America or for Israel? You know, I hate to say this, but the only conclusion that I can draw is that it's working for Israel. You know, when you've got the likes of Mike Pompeo at the CIA, who was one of the foremost Zionists on Capitol Hill, and he's guiding policy.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Remember, the CIA is a policy support organization. It's not a policy organization. It's supposed to do what the president tells it to do. But historically, it had pushed back against Israel. And then you get Mike Pompeo in there, who might as well be the head of Mossad for his support of Israel. Everything begins to change. And when you have this constant pressure from Capitol Hill where practically everybody is taking money from APAC. and they're primaried if they don't take money from APEC or if they don't tow the line that APEC sets,
Starting point is 00:55:32 then you know you lose that independence. And the next thing you know, you are working for the Israelis. Oh, God. So how do you see this ending? Because we don't live in a sovereign country. Under what you just described, we don't live in a sovereign country. And it fills me with rage. And I imagine it fills a lot of Americans with.
Starting point is 00:55:52 So how does this come to an end? Because eventually American citizens are going to have enough of this. Yeah. So how do you see this playing out? In one of two ways, really. On the one hand, I've long been accused of being irrationally optimistic about life. And the optimist in me says, well, certainly our elected leaders will come to their senses eventually. But I've got to be realistic.
Starting point is 00:56:22 And I just don't think that's going to happen. I don't think that they'll come to their senses because, well, for a couple of reasons, number one, because if you look at the incremental change over the last, or changes over the last 35 years, every one of those changes has been in support of Israel, number one. Number two, even though public opinion polls are showing that now a clear majority of Americans believe that our relationship with Israel is too close, believe that Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza, believe that Israel is the aggressor in all of these recent conflicts, our elected officials still line right up in support of Israel.
Starting point is 00:57:06 And you've got people like Thomas Massey and Rokana and a small handful of others, Marjorie Taylor Green, who's now gone, but a small number willing to stand up, that number doesn't doesn't really grow. So even if, let's say, 77% of Democrats polled, say they support the Palestinian side in this conflict, 90% of elected Democrats support the Israelis. And where does that leave us? That leaves us in a place where we don't have a democracy. Yeah, we're an occupied country. So, okay, I now have a random question for you that I've been meaning to ask for a long time. So I want to make sure I get it in here. So Barack Obama did. something unacceptable when he bombed Anwar al-Lov-Lawki.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Yes. He went outside of the judiciary and he said due process does not have to be judicial process, the executive branch can just decide to execute an American citizen. And they did. But that was already egregious enough. But they say coincidentally in a second and completely different bombing, they also killed a Lachie's 16-year-old son. And then, coincidentally, in a third.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Third bombing, they killed his eight-year-old daughter. So were those coincidences or I have a theory on this one, and I'm curious what you think, that maybe Anwar L'L Lockheu was working with the CIA, but then he flipped on him. And so he knew things that the CIA didn't want out. And so they wanted to cover all their bases on anyone who might have known. I think that's entirely plausible. I'll tell you, I was one of a very small handful of CIA officers who had actually met on War Al-Aki.
Starting point is 00:58:56 I met him when he was the Imam of the mosque in Falls Church, Virginia. My Arabic teacher, CIA employee Arabic teacher, took us there so we could learn some of the the vocabulary words associated with Islam. And he gave us a tour of the mosque. He took us to the Arabic language bookstore, and then we went to lunch with him. In 2011, I went to Yemen to do a study. I was the senior investigator on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee at the time working for John Kerry.
Starting point is 00:59:32 And I went to Yemen, and my first meeting on that trip was with the legal attach, the FBI representative in the American embassy. And I made a joke about, you know, what are you doing sitting here in your own? office, you should be out looking for Anwar Al-Laki. And he said, we know where Anwar Al-Laki is within three feet, 24 hours a day. And I stupidly said, so why don't you arrest him? Well, because there was never any intention of arresting him. The intent was to kill him, to track him, and to kill him. That was a policy decision that was made. But why did we let him go as far as he did? I think you're onto something here. I think he was probably a CIA asset at one time. Remember,
Starting point is 01:00:27 he was an American citizen. He was born in Albuquerque, New Mexico. His father was the Yemeni ambassador to the United States at the time and then went on to become the Yemeni Minister of Agriculture. And I think that he self-radicalized after a while. And they just decided to take him out at a time and place of their choosing. May I add one other thing, check? You raised something that's very important. It's something I've been yelling about for a year. We murdered him without ever charging him with a crime.
Starting point is 01:01:01 He had a constitutional right to face his accusers in a court of law to be judged by a jury of his peers. And we murdered him in cold blood. He had never been charged with the crime. But then a week later, we murdered his 16-year-old son and 16-year-old nephew as they sat at a cafe drinking tea. They were children, and they had never been charged with any crime. And then we murdered his daughter, just for good measure, an 8-year-old, which made Obama a child killer. Of course, he already was a child killer, but made him a child killer again. And nobody really seems to care.
Starting point is 01:01:35 What about his rights? Because remember what Eric Holder told Rand Paul, if the president wants to kill you, he's perfectly within his legal rights to kill you. And it doesn't matter if you have never been charged with the crime. If the president of the United States doesn't like your politics, he can make you vapor with a missile. Yeah. No, we're in super dark times here.
Starting point is 01:02:02 So we got to go. But John, am I right that you're? background is Greek originally? Yes, sir. Okay, but I want to end, you know, you say you're an optimist, I'm an optimist. The one beautiful thing about this country is here's a Turk, a Greek, and an Armenian, all fighting. And by the way, this is really important. Don't worry, John, I got your back. All Americans and all fighting not for Turkey, Greece, or Armenia, but for America, as it's supposed to be. And so, you know, we, we, you know, we, We love this country and we want its sovereignty and its freedom back.
Starting point is 01:02:40 So thank you for joining us, John. Really appreciate it. Thank you so much for the invitation. It was a pleasure. Come back soon. I look forward to it. All right. Okay guys, when we come back, is Mitch McConnell dead?
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Starting point is 01:04:27 with the elites in Washington, D.C. They are foreign leaders who we don't want to offend. They interact with our intelligence agencies that we don't want to disobey. There is something rotten in Washington. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? All those congressmen you just saw there are on the record as protecting the child rapists who were clients of Epstein. They have not prosecuted a single person outside of Epstein and Maxwell. Yep. Not one. Is Trump engaging in this cover up because he's in the Epstein files?
Starting point is 01:04:59 I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody. It's pretty boring stuff. So as the government keeps telling us, yeah, there's other people. Yeah, and they rape those girls. So what? We're going to cover up for them. Why are you guys so mad? A nation that chooses impunity for the rich and the powerful at the expense of our children is a nation that has lost its moral purpose.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Are you on the side of the people? Are you on the side of America's children? Or are you on the side of the rich and powerful who've had their thumb on the scales and shafted Americans for decades? The rest of the news media says you should not fight for positive change. If you do, you're not really a reporter or a journalist because reporters and journalists don't care what happens. I don't agree. That's not written anywhere. That's not a law.
Starting point is 01:05:56 It's just a rule that they invented so that reporters didn't actually challenge the people that are in power. Well, we don't agree with that. We think we should challenge the people in power that that actually makes you a better journalist, not a worse one. Who do you guys use? We have AT&T and how much you pay per month? 345 and that includes a company discount. How many people? Five phones.
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Starting point is 01:09:17 We believe that for the movement to continue, it can't be made. And for that reason, we are suspending campaign operations. That was Graham Platner suspending his campaign in Maine. But did he? Because he's a big question as to whether his name is going to stay on the ballot or not. And what actually happened with Graham Platner? You're gonna hear some developments here that you probably have not heard elsewhere that are an amazing and important additions to the latest story about Graham Planner. And then what in the world are we going to do next?
Starting point is 01:10:05 So a lot to discuss here. Anna, tell us all about it. Yes, well, for those who might have missed the story, let me just give you a little context and I'll give you the latest developments. Now, his decision to drop out of the race, of course has to do with the political article that came out recently. where a woman by the name of Jenny Rassikot had accused Platner of forcibly raping her in her own home. Now, the political piece omitted some details, and apparently there's this assumption that the American people don't need to know about certain details. You know, the political gets to decide which text exchanges they share with us, and we'll get to that in just a minute. But the way the piece was written made it seem as though or made the reader believe that, you know, Platner like broke into her home and then forcibly raped her. The allegations, in my opinion, and not even in my opinion, based on what we have in front of us, lack concrete evidence that he carried out a serious crime of rape.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Barassicot had deleted all communications that she had with Platner in the wake of the alleged assault. Politico cites the following as corroborating evidence. Facebook messages that she shared with a friend where Razakot describes Platner as consensually careless and then proceeds to spend most of her time complaining about how she thinks he might have slept with a lot of women. A disclosure to another friend whom she spoke to about the incident at the start of Platner's campaign. A man that she dated after Platner, who said that she had divulged bits and pieces of what had allegedly happened. And then it wasn't until 2023 when she disclosed the whole story. And recent emails between herself and her therapist where she contemplated going to the press about the incident to which the therapist, who opted out of providing a statement or comment to Politico, said that she would.
Starting point is 01:12:07 not have to go public about a traumatic experience in order to be believed. Now, Rassikot was connected to Politico through a woman by the name of Cheyenne Hunt, and that's a 29-year-old attorney and former Platner supporter who founded an organization known as reckoning action. It's a nonprofit that focuses on combating workplace misogyny. So the revelations about Platiners alleged assault, alleged forcible rape is what eventually did him in. He decided to drop out of the race. And of course, it was after pretty much everyone who had endorsed him had reversed their endorsement. And it became clear that there were growing calls for him to step aside.
Starting point is 01:12:53 So I want to just quickly go into the details that were omitted in Politico's reporting because the political piece had failed to report something that Rassikot had said to Jake Tapper, actually, in a subsequent interview. Now, she didn't get detailed about it, but drop site news caught it and decided to investigate it. So I'm going to go to what Ryan Grimm is, you know, what he reported on X. Politico knew at the time of publication precisely what Jenny Rassikot texted to Graham Platner, but deliberately omitted it from their article. Rassikot, according to the lead political reporter on the story, told Platner she needed her glute massage. She told, he told her that he was coming right over and she responded by telling him
Starting point is 01:13:38 not to do so, but he came over quickly to her home with the door unlocked and he let himself in. And then Ryan Grimm says, whether this detail is important to you or not, it is a shocking breach of journalistic ethics by Politico and CNN not to include it in their coverage. And I agree with him. You know, that detail might not change your mind about however you feel about this story or this alleged incident. But it is not up to Politico to decide whether or not we have the full story or the full context. We deserve the full context, including what she had texted him prior to his decision to show
Starting point is 01:14:17 up to her house. Yeah, no, it's not close. So she says, hey, I need a glute massage. And they're going out at the time. So I need you to massage my butt. He comes over and then this event happens. Now again, you could hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You could say, hey, you know what?
Starting point is 01:14:40 She changed her mind and said, don't come over. You could say he came over and she changed her mind then and she has every right to change her mind. That's absolutely true. But what is not in dispute is that Politico purposely hid that from you to make Platner look more guilty. They did that on purpose, they had the text. And they chose not to share that, which is at a bare minimum, obviously relevant to the context
Starting point is 01:15:08 of what happened. So that, this is what we've been telling you all along. Look guys, if you, I've said this a million times not related to this story, related to every outsider who's ever run on the left or the right, what the press does, and it is driven by people with a ton of money who do not want those people to win. If you think that's conspiratorial, you literally know nothing about politics. It's called APO research, everyone who works in politics knows it. The press never tells you that they get spoon fed that APO research, and that it is almost always
Starting point is 01:15:44 from the incredibly wealthy and powerful packs and lobbies. And it is almost always against outsiders, almost never against insiders. And so in this case, Matt Stoller, which we'll get back to in a second, listed the top donors for the main Democrats, and it is filled with people who are in favor of corporate packs, and especially, of course, A-PAC. But Politico doesn't tell you that either. They don't tell you where they got the OPA Research. They don't tell you why they're hiding critical facts about the case.
Starting point is 01:16:15 And neither did any of the other outlets that have attacked and attacked and attacked and attacked. And so why did they call every girlfriend Graham Platner has ever had? That was the New York Times. They call every girlfriend Adam Schiff has ever had? Or Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz? No, no, those are good boys and girls. They serve the powerful, they serve the donor class. So they're not to be touched.
Starting point is 01:16:38 But if you got someone who will not serve the donor class, then the objective reporters go and try to destroy them on behalf of the rich and powerful. And as you can see from the political piece, they don't mind lying to you, they don't mind shredding their so-called journalistic practices, which amazingly, Mika Prasinski did a great job of explaining when the political reporter was on mourning Joe the other day, and we showed that to you. So they're liars. They don't have any principles. They're not journalists. Their job is to destroy any outsider that would challenge power. Yeah, I don't find these allegations
Starting point is 01:17:17 credible. Sorry, forcible rape is something that you would want to either fight or flee from. And just the way she tells the story, how do you stay in your house after the man who forcibly raped you falls asleep? Wouldn't you want to flee your home? And I know, I know. Anna, you don't know how you would react if it happened to you. I would get the F out of there. You actually would know how you would react. You were assaulted once.
Starting point is 01:17:44 And you were furious about it, right? And would you have invited that guy over for a cup of tea? No. Okay, so anyways, look, but this is super important guys. We don't need to judge the women involved. And that's their personal lives and they have different interpretations. I don't begrudge them anything, okay? I care about how does the media treat the different candidates?
Starting point is 01:18:08 And are they being honest with you guys or are they purposely targeting people and trying to destroy them? And that's why they dig and dig and the other guys get a free pass. What have they uncovered about Susan Collins? nothing, right? Why? Because no one's trying to uncover anything about Susan Collins. They're not targeting her. They only target one side. And by the way, if he's replaced by a corporate Democrat, which is what we'll move on to next, they won't target that person either. They only target outsiders who will not serve power. Hey, Ontario. Come on down to bet MGM Casino and see what our newest exclusive, the Price's
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Starting point is 01:19:19 19 plus to wager. ON only. Please play responsibly. If you have any questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connects Ontario at 1866-531-260 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Yeah. Okay. So let's get to some more details. So Platner maintains that the allegations are false. He says that he's totally innocent and that there was no non-consensual sexual activity.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Now, he had won a decisive victory earlier with the primary against Collins. So Plattner, who has won that, had won that primary, has asked for assurances from the Democratic Party that they will. I mean, who cares? At this point, who cares? We're not going to win anything electorally. We're just not. We're not. And the very progressives, the very leftists who claim that they want real change in this country, immediately run away at the first sign of controversy. So make a decision. Is this like a cute little, like, cosplay thing that we're doing? Or do you actually want change? Okay? So if you're, by the way, I didn't even really like platinum all that much as a candidate, to be honest with you, to be fair. So I wasn't one of his vociferous defenders. But I don't like the fact that we're normalizing, just making forcible rape allegations against someone to destroy their political candidacy.
Starting point is 01:20:56 And then what happens next? I mean, this wasn't adjudicated at a court of law. He was never found guilty of doing anything wrong. But it doesn't matter because how this plays out, whether he did it or didn't do it, he looks guilty. And this will follow him around forever for the rest of his life. when he hasn't even seen a single day in court. How is that okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:17 How is that okay? And so, and by the way, there's extra layers to it. So he does that 11 minute video where he basically withdraws from the race. I'll get to the nuance in a second. And everyone in media all over cable news is like not good enough. He should have confessed. Well, he says he didn't do it. No, he should say that he did it.
Starting point is 01:21:39 But he thinks he didn't do it. No, he should say what we want and he should just punch himself in the face and he should confess to things that we've accused them of. Well, what is it? And then of course they went to now smear everyone who supported him. That's it, they're all guilty. No, no, we're not gonna do any of that. Now let's find out who is guilty.
Starting point is 01:21:58 I wanna go forward to Graphics 5 and 6 here. So Matt Still are a longtime progressive and he got heat in the same ways that we do for saying that there's nuance in this story and exactly in the ways that he's, he's in the ways that He said it has nuance and people are like, no, you can't do nuance. You have to be an idiot and you have to be binary and you have to destroy everyone in the establishment's path. He's like, really? And he explained top main Democratic Party donors in recent years are Reid Hoffman,
Starting point is 01:22:25 Haym Saban, and David Ellison. David Ellison, as in the Trump ally who fired Stephen Colbert and is taking over TikTok, CBS News, and CNN. These names should mean something. Saban may be the single most important APAC donor in the Democratic Party. That is definitely true. He continues to say, and another big donor to the main Democratic Party is the founder of Zinga, Mark Pinkas, who said in 2024, an attack on Amazon and his attack on America.
Starting point is 01:22:52 It goes beyond big tech and Wall Street, crypto fraudster, Sam Bankman Freed's partner, Nishad Singh at FtX, gave $100,000 to the main Democratic Party in 2022. By the way, Pinkus is also an enormous supporter of Israel. Oh, look at that. All of the top donors for the main Democrats, are all either corporate pact donors, but really, almost all of them are A-Pact donors. And they didn't hate Graham Platner, and they demanded that the press, the Democratic Party, destroy him. And look at that in another wild coincidence, Graham Platner is destroyed.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Okay, so if you still think these are coincidences, you're not very bright. You can't, oh, oh, I wonder if people spending millions and millions of dollars against one candidate in an effort to destroy, him and have the entire media behind them makes a difference and they don't spend it any on a sus-cgans. By the way, these are the people on theoretically on the Democratic side. They destroyed their own candidate because it's not their candidate. They don't care if Democrats win or Republicans win. They only care if Israel wins.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Why do you think they fund both parties? This is not rocket science, it is crystal clear what happened. And so now they're gonna have a nominating convention in Maine, Anna. And guess who's gonna decide who the new nominee is? 600 Maine Democratic Insiders, the same people funded by the APAC and corporate pack guys I just named. Of course. Yeah. So not surprised.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Of course, of course it played out this way. But we're the bad guys for questioning the credibility of these allegations that we haven't seen a shred of concrete evidence to back up. So we are to believe that there is a man who forcibly raped a woman on the loose, just on the loose. Yeah. Okay. And by the way, he is not formally filed yet and people are getting antsy about that.
Starting point is 01:24:57 They're like, you only got 70% of the vote. You gotta get out right now, okay? And all of them. And by the way, I totally agree with you. A lot of people on the left are like, no, no, no trial. No, I don't want to hear any evidence. I don't need the context. I love and believe Politico in New York Times.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Make sure we destroy our own. Okay, all right, that's, if you wanna go that way, I think it's a terrible idea. And so you have to file by July 13 and they have to pick a new candidate by July 27th. So I don't know what's going to happen. It's not my business to do on whether he should drop out or not drop out. All I know with absolute certainty is that evil forces targeted Graham Platner to make sure that a person who was gonna represent the voters overwhelmingly won the primary could not represent those voters.
Starting point is 01:25:46 So instead, a bunch of corporate Democrats will get together funded by APEC and tell you who your next, I was gonna say Senator is, but they're not gonna pick the next Senate. They're gonna pick the next person who's gonna lose to Susan Collins, because they're gonna say, you know, nine out of 10 chance, oh, I am slightly less Republican than Susan Collins, but But I will serve all the donors loyally, which is the exact opposite of what Grand Platner was saying. Forget Grand Planner. The voters who wanted those policies and principles are the ones who should be served
Starting point is 01:26:21 by the so-called representatives in Maine. If they do not pick someone ideologically aligned with the person who overwhelmingly won the primary, Maine Democrats are telling you, we are going to betray you and we're going to shiv you and we're traders and we work for the donors and we don't work for the voters. But good news, it hasn't happened yet. So I hope that doesn't happen. And I hope that they pick someone aligned with Platner's policies, not his personal life. Will they?
Starting point is 01:26:52 Well, guys, we're all going to get to find out together. Are there honest Democrats who'll give you a real representative, a real somebody who's got a shot at winning that Senate seat and is a populist? Or are they servants of the wealthy and the powerful who are going to betray. You, the whole country is going to find out together. All right, we got to take a break. When we come back, we'll ask whether or not Mitch McConnell's dead. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 01:27:36 I'm going to read these blind. Let's go to you two members first. Jed Cusack says, Ben Shapiro's voice always sounds like it's playing on twice speed. It does, it really does. I thought it was on twice speed, so you nailed it exactly right, but it's not. He just talks so fast and whiny and annoying. But that's why he has no viewers left at all. The only people watching him are the mainstream media guys are like, oh, tweet this out.
Starting point is 01:28:00 He's so important and relevant. He's much more representative of the right wing voters than Tucker Carlson or Megan Kelly or any other right wing podcaster. Oh, yes, yes, yes, Israel, Israel, right? But you liars in mainstream media, they don't work for America at all. Jill Meister says, Yank Ban, Shapiro from T.Y.T. Like you're starting a lawnmower. I don't even know what that means, but okay. Jermaine Moore says, Us and Russia is supposed to be world powers.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Look how long they've been struggling with these tiny countries. Well, a tiny country took over us. And then a bunch of propagandists for Israel go, oh, it's just a tiny little country of 10 million people. We have no power. I can't believe you think we have any power at all. I don't know, you have half the world's billionaires that are supporting you guys, that are radical lunatic Zionists.
Starting point is 01:28:44 You think that maybe half the world's billionaires could be relevant? Oh, no, no, no, no. You're not allowed to say that. I said it because it's true. It's true. Zachary Stalbel says, Anna, that you, for all that you do to spread the truth, they're saying thank you for that about the idea of terrorist actions. I'm so proud to be a part of this community.
Starting point is 01:29:04 Zachary, we're so proud to have you, man. I love this community. Bud Rollins says Israelis will sacrifice everything, anything, for their fantasy nation. And to steal everyone else's land. So that's the Israeli government. Anyway, we'll be back. All right, back on T.Y.T. Jank, Anna, R.J. 13, 23, 23.
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Starting point is 01:31:17 All right, now let's go to our next story about dead man walking. This story gets even stranger. Yesterday, two Republican senators, John Thune, John Barrasso, both claimed they had 20-minute phone calls with Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell, who's been in the hospital for almost a month. Scott Jennings, CNN made the exact same claim. And I think I just assumed, like most normal people, that today we'd get like a video from the senator from the hospital thanking people for the support, the prayers, and letting them know that he's doing okay.
Starting point is 01:31:48 But that didn't happen. And the question is why? Where is Mitch McConnell? What is going on? So Mitch McConnell might be brain dead, but the press and the Republican Party are hiding it. And a bunch of GOP senators and Scott Jennings are obviously lying about it. But that was Newsmax host Rob Finnerty.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Even right wingers are like, no, this is nonsense, totally utterly not true. Where the hell is this guy? Wait till you find out why they're hiding this condition. Anna, tell us more. So there are several conservatives, Republicans who are pretty furious about what's going on here. And honestly, Jake, it's not that shocking. Think about how furious Democrats were, by the way, we were also furious when he's
Starting point is 01:32:38 It was abundantly clear that Diane Feinstein, a Democratic senator, was in no condition to remain in the Senate. She was literally being wheelchared onto the Senate floor by Nancy Pelosi's daughter. She was suffering from, you know, Alzheimer's. She was just in really bad shape. And we were upset because we should have representation in Congress, and a senator who's unable to represent us should not be in Congress. So with that in mind, let's go to some of the other conservative commentators and figures and people. what they have to say. So fellow newsmax host Carl Higby says, Republicans are doing the same BS with McConnell that Dems did with Biden. No one has actually spoken to him. They are,
Starting point is 01:33:22 they are just trying to carry this on to keep Thomas Massey from running for his seat. And I think there's a lot of truth behind that. Now, there are other Republicans speaking out. Let's just quickly go to, let's go to Betty Johnson. Next video. They're saying the exact same thing. Here we go. I spoke with McConnell this morning for just shy of 20 minutes about Iran, Ukraine, and the unfolding situation in Maine. Did you?
Starting point is 01:33:54 Well, that seems to be also exactly what other reporters are saying. John Thune said McConnell and him spoke yesterday. They did lengthy and substantive conversations on topics of. national security. Senate GOP leaders say they've spoken with Senator McConnell on the phone for about 20 minutes. And we talked about Ukraine. Senator Barrasso and Senator McConnell had lengthy conversation this afternoon. Their call lasted roughly 20 minutes.
Starting point is 01:34:18 It's just the exact same thing. It's like a template that they sent out. I don't believe it. It's like, okay, if he's this with it, then why not just have him do a phone interview? He could call into this program. Why doesn't it if Mr. McConnell called into CNN right now, if he's this cogent, And this sharp, just have them call into CNN. Hey, Ontario.
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Starting point is 01:35:34 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming, Ontario. So that's Benny Johnson. He gets the hunch. Obviously, the individuals who claim that they've been speaking with the senator are lying. Glenn Beck is another person who's demanding evidence. Let's take a quick look at that. I had a 20-minute conversation with Mitch McConnell last night. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Okay? No, I didn't. Because I could have a conversation. I had a great 20 minute conversation with Joe Biden yesterday. And you know what it was? And you're wearing shoes today. That's nice. Your shoes.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Oh, I'm wearing shoes today. You'd have a 20 minute conversation with Joe Biden. You'd have a 20 minute conversation with Mitch McConnell. But when did the GOP become the same people that we've been complaining about? Do you not remember what we've been saying for the last five years about people like, I just talk to Joe Biden. He's great. And now you're doing it. What's wrong with you? Apparently, some on the right are starting to realize that we live under a unit of party. But let's get to what Ken Klippenstein is reporting. He says under Kentucky law, if McConnell is declared unfit for office before August 3rd, there's a special election to fill out his term. After that date, the seat sits empty until whoever wins November's already scheduled race is sworn in on January 3rd. So a longtime Capitol Hill source told Ken that congressional Republicans don't want to risk a special election,
Starting point is 01:37:18 fearing GOP voters might nominate a MAGA candidate over someone friendlier to their party establishment. Now right now, MAGA has become the party establishment, right? because Trump has totally pivoted to neoconservative traditional Republican garbage without actually being a conservative. But nonetheless, fewer than 5% of patients McConnell's age survive an out-of-hospital cardiac arrest. And most survivors suffer lasting brain damage. And in regard to those who are calling for some proof, some investigations, just to figure out what's going on, you literally have the governor of Kentucky, Andy Bashir, issuing the following statement. As governor, and a fellow public official who understands the commitment we've made to the people we serve,
Starting point is 01:38:06 I am requesting the senator provided update on his current health status, allowing speculation to continue in the media is not fair to the senator or to Kentuckians. And my hope is that this provides him the opportunity to share the information in a transparent manner, direct from the source. I wish him a safe and speedy recovery. But, you know, I look, on one hand, Jake, I get the fury because we felt it ourselves when it came to Biden, when it came to Diane Feinstein. But I wasn't fully blackpilled when I felt that fury. And now I am. And now I see Congress for what it is, which is a giant waste of our time and resources. They get nothing done. They're totally useless. The only thing they do is constantly put their stamp of approval on pork for their donors. and usually that's in the form of defense contractors, pharmaceutical companies and oil companies,
Starting point is 01:38:59 and Israel, of course. But aside from that, what have they done for us? What was the last time Congress legitimately did something that significantly benefited the lives of ordinary Americans? Yeah. Well, I was so blackfield against Joe Biden that I ran against him. I was like, this is insane. He's not functional. He's obviously senile.
Starting point is 01:39:21 And everyone was like, oh, you were trying to help Donald Trump. Like, no, I'd like someone with a brain so that they could beat Donald Trump. No, no, we don't want to beat Donald Trump. Why don't you want to beat Donald Trump? Oh, no, we're supporting the senile guy. It's absurd. It's absurd. By the way, good people believe that.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Why did they believe that? Because our entire system is structured to get you to bow your head to the powerful. So if you're, you know, if Biden or Diane Feinstein is senile or has dementia on the, On the Democratic side, shut up, don't ask any questions. Well, who's the president? Who's actually running the country? Who was the governor? Who was the senator from California?
Starting point is 01:40:03 Right now, who's the senator from Kentucky? Because it isn't Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell's not voting, he's not making any decisions. These same 20 minute conversations are such obvious propaganda. By the way, let's note for the record that the people that say that they had the conversations with Mitch McConnell are enormous supporters of Israel. Now, you say, wait, Wayne, Jen, why is that relevant in this story? Well, if they have a special election, Tom Massey runs.
Starting point is 01:40:30 He's from Kentucky. I don't want that at all. Even if it's symbolic, even if it's for a small period of time, they're like, no, no. And besides which, who are all the senators anyway? They apparently don't make any decisions. That's why when Feinstein or McConnell are incapacitated, nothing changes. Whoever is actually in charge of their office puts out the same policies that they would otherwise does the same exact things.
Starting point is 01:40:59 And Feinstein was wheeled around and McConnell was for a while too, they, and then you saw with your own eyes, McConnell would freeze up every once in a while. He kept falling over and getting concussed all the way back to 2023. And they just keep wheeling them around and go, okay, press this one, McConnell, press this for Israel Feinstein, press this for big pharma, press this for big oil and defense contractors. So these are senators and representatives are widgets. They're not independent decision makers. They're very lowly servants for the donor class.
Starting point is 01:41:32 That's why when they are, even if they're brain dead, the donor goes, who cares? That's even better for us. We don't want them thinking on their own. We want them to follow their goddamn orders. And whether it's Mitch McConnell or his bitch that works for him, you know, that's his chief of staff or whatever. That's the goddamn button. Shut up and do as the donors tell you.
Starting point is 01:41:55 And now McConnell goes, okay, if he's still alive. I mean, it's their make Anna, they're turning our democracy. The people who say, oh my God, I'm so worried about Trump, I'm worried about democracy. I was worried about Trump. That's why I did what I did. But don't tell me you're worried about democracy and you think it's no big deal that a senator that is not functional is still pretending to be functional. Then you don't care about our democracy and you know they're widgets.
Starting point is 01:42:21 You know they're waiters and waitresses for the rich and the powerful that have completely bought our Congress. So this is just a, they've turned it into a sick force. And in moments like this, they start to rub it in our face. Ha ha, you have no representatives. You have no democracy. All you have is a bunch of wealthy people who bought all of Congress and who bought all the media to tell you, oh yeah, this is not a play. No, no, no, you're not at the theater. No, no, no, this is real life.
Starting point is 01:42:49 They are having debates. They have different ideologies and principles. The whole thing's a goddamn joke. I agree. All right, we got to take a break. Let's do that. When we come back, we'll discuss some other news, including Marco Rubio, who is enabling terrorists as we speak, arguing that there needs to be an international effort to go after
Starting point is 01:43:11 Antifa. We'll be right back. All right, so Brother Tube writes in on t.com, no anna for a week, that sucks. I agree, but we try to do the best we can. So we're going to have a really interesting and a collecting mix for you guys next week as guest hosts. Adam Mockler is going to be on Wednesday. Dave Smith's going to be on Tuesday. And Marjorie Taylor Green is going to guest host on Monday.
Starting point is 01:43:59 So wild week up ahead and should be a lot of interesting conversations filled with agreements and disagreements of that is normal. Cabbage writes an agent Chuck Weger. That's how John Curiacu was understandably mispronouncing my name. And by the way, I've mispronounced his name many times. Angie Lynn says we should believe the victim until or unless an investigation proves otherwise. Angie, I love you and I get that a lot of people think that way, but I don't agree. And so we don't know if they're a victim until we know whether it's true or not. Yeah, okay, so we're going to just assume people are guilty and they have to prove that they're innocent.
Starting point is 01:44:44 So just understand what you're normalizing. You're normalizing people, bad people's ability to just make things up to destroy someone, whether it's in their career, politics, whatever. and the onus is on them to prove that they're innocent. I don't want to live in a system like that. I think that's a really bad system. So that's just my take. Angie and others, like, I get it.
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Starting point is 01:46:55 What story you want to do next? Let's, I'm in a really bad mood, so let's do the Marsha Blackburn thing. Maybe it'll cheer me up. Okay, that sounds fun. All right, let's go to that now. How hard am I going to crack down on China? Well, here's a clue. Marsha Blackburn worked with President Trump to take on communist China.
Starting point is 01:47:15 As governor, Marsha will fight to protect Tennessee land from Chinese front companies, close who polls, and hunt down every communist who tries to defy it. It doesn't take a fortune cookie to figure it out. Here in Tennessee, we're going to stop communist China and protect Tennessee land. While that might look like a Saturday night live skid, it isn't. That's a real United States Senator, Marshall Blackburn from Tennessee, and that's a real ad. Okay, so there are so many inconsistencies and problems with that ad that it is absolutely hilarious. But the first one I'll point out, Anna, is so we hate the Chinese communists in their fortune cookies.
Starting point is 01:48:01 And look, the fortune cookie says that Marshall Blackburn's right. So wait, do we hate the fortune cookies or do we love the fortune cookies? That ad was awesome. Okay, that was the best political ad I've seen it a long time. Look, we need a little bit of comedic relief in life. Okay, politics has gotten too serious. and I've been waiting for someone left or right, who cares? But you know that a bozo is going to come out with a super embarrassing ad.
Starting point is 01:48:28 Like one of my favorite political ads of all time was Senator Kennedy coming out with that ad where he was going after the BLM protesters and he's like, oh, you need the cops? Well, call a crackhead. Oh my God. That ad was so funny. So obviously I don't agree with his take, right? because he's trying to make a point about how Black Lives Matter, like, didn't, whatever. He exaggerated what Black Lives Matter was advocating for at the time.
Starting point is 01:49:01 But it was such a funny ad that I loved it and I watched it over and over again. This is the same taste, right? Ignorant woman, you even hear like the stereotypical music in the background. I don't understand the need to crush the fortune cookies. Like, aren't fortune cookies an American creation? Yeah. So, all right, let's break that down. So fortune cookies were invented by a Japanese American around I think 1907, if I remember right.
Starting point is 01:49:32 That's amazing. Yeah. And has nothing to do with China. There are no fortune cookies in China. But again, she's like, ah, it's so mad at the fortune cookies. He crumbles them. And they're like a positive message about Marshall Blackburn comes out of the cookie. So wait, are we supposed to like and trust the cookie that tells us that we should elect you?
Starting point is 01:49:51 Or are we supposed to hate the communist cookie who actually is a communist and isn't a person and is actually Japanese American? Okay, by the way, also they have soy sauce on the table. I know that there's some Chinese brands of soy sauce, but soy sauce is mainly Japanese, not Chinese. Oh, I didn't know that. That's actually good knowledge to know. No, but let's also just quickly address the elephant in this. the room? Is war with China something that's like making voters cream in their pants? Like,
Starting point is 01:50:23 is that what they're looking for right now? I don't know. I don't really get it. No, I get it. Is that what we're looking for? Go ahead. So let me show you the foreign government you should be concerned about. Let's take a look at who Senator Blackburn has received contributions from. I know you're going to be shocked. Oh, look at that, Israel. $449,000. She's now running for governor of Tennessee. So the problem isn't the country who has a lobby that is given to 94% of Congress, including Marsha Blackburn. No, no, no, no. The country that has forced us into seven wars that has cost us $8 trillion, the country that we've given $320 billion to, that we're thinking of merging our militaries with. That's not the country you should be concerned about. Squirrel,
Starting point is 01:51:09 Chinese squirrel. Look at the communist squirrel and the dastardly fortune cookie they have. So she thinks my voters are generally racist, I want them to hate a foreign country, but not beloved Israel. I want them to love Israel because we all serve Israel, and I want to distract them from that. So communist fortune cookie squirrel, everybody get angry at the Chinese. So here's the thing to understand though, for, because there are a lot of. are people in the country who desperately wanted that pivot to Asia, which kind of started
Starting point is 01:51:46 under Obama, but we got sucked right back into the Middle East. Our, if you genuinely think that we need to be concerned about China, and China is spanking us, right, partly we're spanking ourselves. China is growing in power. They are ascendant. We are declining in power. And a big reason why is because we are basically blowing our load, meeting all our military weaponry, our resources, we're $40 trillion in debt. We keep getting sucked into Israel's wars in the Middle East. When I thought we were going to try to stop doing that, but we, you know, we can't. God forbid, we actually start looking out for the American people, doing what's necessary to be competitive on the global stage, all that money that we've been spending on Israel's wars,
Starting point is 01:52:38 we could have actually utilized in research and development here in the United States, investing in our youth, investing in the trade so young people can have an option outside of four-year institutions where they take out an insane amount of debt and will likely have the jobs that they're getting degrees for replaced by robots and AI. I just, you can't have those two things. You understand? Like you can't on one hand fear monger about China and how we need to focus on fighting China while also simultaneously being supportive of anything and everything Israel wants.
Starting point is 01:53:15 The two things don't vibe if you get what I'm saying. You can only have one. And we've made our decision to the detriment of our country. To your point, Anna. So the Chinese are in an economic competition with us. That's definitely real. And oftentimes they cheat around the edges, and you say not around the edges, but our core things, they flood our markets.
Starting point is 01:53:37 There's a bunch of things we've talked about that we should fight back against when it comes to the Chinese government. But wait, let's break it down in two other layers though. So the Chinese are out competing our businesses, that's why they're dastardly communist? So the Chinese government, you could be mad at them, but they keep calm like a communist, right? Well, how communists are they? If they have all these businesses that are out competing us fairly or unfairly, right? No, it's a mixed economy at this point.
Starting point is 01:54:07 So they throw in the communists as a way of like getting you angrier and more demagoguery. You could be plenty angry at the ways that they cheat on the economic issues without bringing the extra demagoguery in. That doesn't make any sense in this context. And by the way, if you want to say that it's not a free country, that is definitely true. And that is a legitimate way of critiquing the Chinese government, again, without bringing in things. that don't make sense. But my, the most important part is Chinese restaurants are American. She's in a, presumably in a Chinese restaurant in Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:54:38 She's not in Shanghai or Beijing. And if you know anything about Chinese restaurants, they're probably the most capitalist businesses in the country. You need food on Christmas? Trust me, the Chinese restaurant is open. You need food on Fourth of July or Thanksgiving or past hours? The Chinese restaurants open. You know why?
Starting point is 01:54:57 Because they're interested in making money. money. Yeah, I totally agree. So anyway, I guess that did lighten the mood a little bit. But now let's turn to Marco Rubio. Let's do F Block because I'm going to talk about how he's trying to solicit help from 60 countries for something idiotic. Go ahead, Jake. Yes. So Marco Rubio and some of the others in the administration, interesting who they are, are now trying to pressure foreign governments into labeling Antifa a terrorist organization. Wait, what? Antiva barely exists here, let alone in foreign nations.
Starting point is 01:55:34 So what are they actually trying to do? That's really interesting. Anna, tell us more. So the Washington Post put out this report, and I was fascinated by it, because when you take a step back and you look at the behavior of the United States government and what we're involved in in the Middle East,
Starting point is 01:55:52 what we are empowering and emboldening, And what we have emboldened in the Middle East, there's quite a bit of terrorism going on, right? A lot of innocent people are getting killed. But Marco Rubio is soliciting the help of 60 countries in order to fight what the Trump administration views as a major peril, the resurgence of transnational far left terrorism. That is insane. That is insane. That is, you have no right and no leg to stand on when it comes to the topic of terrorism.
Starting point is 01:56:29 You have been bombing fishing boats in the Caribbean. Okay, like, what are we doing here? But anyway, this invitation that Marco Rubio sent to 60 different countries included most European nations, the larger Latin American countries, and several Asian countries, including India, Indonesia, and Singapore. And so he's asking to meet with them, like get together this international meeting where they discuss like fighting back against the scourge of left-wing terrorism. So Trump designated Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization last year. And additionally, and this is the part that really gets me jank. Trump's foreign counterterrorism czar Sebastian Gorka, who's foreign, you can tell by his voice.
Starting point is 01:57:16 I have no problem with foreigners, but how about foreigners don't label Americans as table. terrorists as they're working for, you know, the White House. But anyway, Sebastian Gorka has been pushing for the use of the terrorism label against Antifa to basically justify viciously going after left-wingers as if they're like al-Qaeda terrorists. Oh, no, no, not al-Qaeda terrorist. We actually arm those people and invite them to the White House and spray perfume on them. Anyway, a linkage to foreign terrorist groups can unlock certain investigative tools such as surveillance, said one U.S. counterterrorism official. And if you guys can remember through an interview that I had done with Ken Klippenstein, his original reporting found that Sebastian Gorka was also looking to label certain conservative Republicans as terrorists, including Tucker Carlson, simply because he doesn't agree with Tucker Carlson's views on Israel. So that reporting was done by Ken Klippenstein.
Starting point is 01:58:18 I even interviewed him about it. You guys should check that out if you missed it. But some U.S. officials, rightly, are very worried about this move. Why is that? Some Trump administration officials fear that a future Democratic administration could use the tactic against conservative activists, one administration official said. Quote, the idea is you're setting a precedent for a future Gavin Newsom administration to turn these authorities on conservatives, the official said.
Starting point is 01:58:46 So it turns out that there are still people with some functioning brains in government. So I'm really happy to see that because whoever this person is, they are absolutely right. You should never advocate for the dismantling of rights for anyone because it will boomerang right back to you. And people who don't see that, people who don't realize that are digging their own graves. In fact, some U.S. officials have even declined to go to this event that Marco Rubio is putting together. Discomfort with the administration's direction is such that at meetings of national security officials from various agencies, some intelligence analysts have declined to brief on Antifa because they do not regard Antifa as a serious counterterrorism threat, according to one person familiar with the matter.
Starting point is 01:59:37 And to be clear, U.S. law actually requires a group to be foreign in order for them to be labeled a terrorist organization. Former State Department official Jason Blaskins, who ran the designation process for 10 years through 2018, told Washington Post that if it has any significant domestic presence, it cannot be designated for. Meaning Americans cannot be labeled as terrorists by our own government. Now Marco Rubio's previous designation of foreign Antifa groups was also called into question. Because as you mentioned earlier, Jank, Antifa is an American thing. But what Marco Rubio is trying to allude to is just left-wing groups in other countries. And so Rubio has linked foreign groups to Antifa before, back in November, for instance.
Starting point is 02:00:32 Rubio designated four European-based groups as terrorist organizations with ties to Antifa. The State Department released a fact sheet on the groups with the names the agency is using for them. At least one of the groups is not known by the name on the sheet. In their countries, none are linked to anything called Antifa. And so the groups, according to the State Department include Antifa OST in Germany. the informal anarchist federation or the international revolutionary front in Italy. Like, if Italy is having problems with any group in their own country, like, they'll handle it. Like, why are we having like this international consortium getting together in order to fight back
Starting point is 02:01:20 against left-wingers? And the country that's setting this up is the one enabling Israel to carry out how many different wars. ethnic cleansing in Lebanon, genocide in Gaza. You want to talk about terrorism? You want to talk about terrorism? There was a Palestinian man who wanted to do something nice for the Palestinians who are in Gaza right now. So he organized like screens for them to be able to watch the soccer matches as part of the FIFA matches that have been going on. Israel bombed his car and killed him. Jesus Christ, man. Yeah, no, there's Israel terrorists. the world for sure. So I'll come back to them. So we're trying to shut down Antifa in Germany.
Starting point is 02:02:08 You know, Antifa is short for anti-fascists. Why do we want pro-fascist groups in Germany? That doesn't sound like a good idea, does it? So, but in reality, of course, these groups are microscopic and including here. And we used to have debates on the show and discussions on the show about what's worse left wing or right wing terrorism. And the proof is overwhelming on the right wing side. But doesn't really matter guys. Both are in the scope of crime in America tiny, okay? So they're obsessed about this even though there's almost no left wing or right wing
Starting point is 02:02:49 terrorism, tiny, tiny amounts over the span of the last 10, 20 years, right? So why are they getting all agitated? about both sides. And Gorka is the giveaway. So if you don't know Marco Rubio, Sebastian Gorka and Stephen Miller, the three people in the administration most in favor of this and pushing this forward are all Israel first. And Gorka is the giveaway because of what Anna said. It goes, oh, by the way, we should also use it against the right way against Tucker Carlson,
Starting point is 02:03:18 i.e. against all opponents of Israel, a foreign government. But we should call people who are criticizing Israel, Americans criticizing Israel inside this country, terrorists now. And then we should get all of our allies to call them terrorists. Guys, the surveillance state is coming. And this is how the game is played. So now when the theoretical right wing is in charge, they're not right wing, they're just Republican cutouts for a foreign government.
Starting point is 02:03:50 They come in and they go, oh, left wing terrorist, oh, make sure you pass those. law and you all coordinated against these terrorists. And then a Democrat, so-called Democrat wins. And then he goes, oh, you have to get the right-wing terrorist and make sure we coordinate. Oh, look at that. All Americans are terrorists. Now we're doing a surveillance state on all of you. That's why, and by the way, you know, I've called right-wingers who did, you know, attacks
Starting point is 02:04:15 against innocent civilians here and it meets the definition of terrorism. But in this story, we find out that, you know, if you're an American citizen, there's a different for you and not terrorists. And you know what? I had already withdrawn that earlier. I'm double withdrawing it now. You know why? Because it's a dangerous thing to start calling one another terrorists.
Starting point is 02:04:34 It's a slippery slope because once you call someone a terrorist, then the government goes, well, I have every right to take away all of their rights. No, you don't, no you don't. They're American citizens, whether they're on the right or the left. If they have accused of doing something terrible, they still have their rights. We go through a process, we go through justice. And if they've done something terrible, then we bring justice to them, okay? to them, okay?
Starting point is 02:04:54 But we don't bring injustice, and we certainly don't do it to American citizens on behalf of another country. If you're worried about actual terrorism, I mean, imagine people killing innocent kids on purpose. What vicious terrorists? Well, there's a country that we funded that killed 23,000 innocent children in Gaza. Disgusting terrorists, the worst civilian kill ratio of any terrorist group in the world, And that's the Israeli defense forces. But those guys go, no, give me your money.
Starting point is 02:05:26 I'm sending it to those terrorists to murder 23,000 children. But you, if you defy Israel or anyone in power, we're going to call you a terrorist and take away all your rights. So that's what this is about. Yeah, I agree. I just have one final thing to say. I want to go back to the platinum thing because it's just on my mind. I just don't understand.
Starting point is 02:05:49 Like, everything, this is like one of the most unjust things imaginable. Because if Plattenor had actually committed the crime that he's accused of, when you don't go to the cops, then you're just allowing someone who allegedly forcibly raped you to just be out on the loose, to do what? To do that to other women? Like, how is that? And then you hold on to that information until a week before an important electoral deadline. I just, I don't know, I just don't get it. I really don't. None of this makes sense to me. And the fact that people don't see the red flags, like blows me away. It really does.
Starting point is 02:06:25 So I'm gonna read more member comments in the bonus episode. That's just for the members. So hit the join button below, t.wit.com slash join to get the bonus episodes. But I'm gonna read one right now from a YouTube member box. He said, if he raped that woman, he needs to go to prison. But the boot him out of running was too much of my opinion. The whole democratic establishment got together in a circular firing squad again. And that's the point we're making.
Starting point is 02:06:49 If he's guilty, the consequences should be worse. He should go to prison, right? But if he's not judged guilty, why are the Democrats taking out their own guy? Because they're not Democrats. They don't care about the Democrats. The Republicans take out their own guys if they're opposed to Israel too. Tucker Carlson Candice over on and on, right? Because they're not Republicans or Democrats.
Starting point is 02:07:12 They're the donor class. And that's what the whole unit party is about. The whole thing's a lie. So look, this again, there's a head on collision coming from the populace, the American citizens that now realize we don't control our own government and the establishment who will never ever stop lying to you. They will lie to you to the very end and say, no, you should be controlled by others. All right, we'll be right back with a great interview.

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