The Young Turks - Control Freak

Episode Date: November 8, 2023

Former Democratic congressman calls on Biden to drop out of the 2024 race. Netanyahu says Israel will control Gaza security indefinitely. An American nurse who got out of Gaza describes the desperatio...n she saw there. Pink Floyd's Roger Waters denies Hamas' Oct. 7 war crimes: Israel is "making up stories." HOSTS: Ana Kasparian (@AnaKasparian) and Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ https://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER: ☞ https://www.twitter.com/theyoungturks INSTAGRAM: ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK: ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕 Merch: https://shoptyt.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. One of the hardest parts of getting older is feeling like something's off in your body, but not knowing exactly what. It's not just aging. It's often your hormones, too.
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Starting point is 00:00:49 A survey found 86% of women lost weight, 77% saw an improved mood, and 100% felt like themselves again. Start your next chapter feeling balanced and in control. For a limited time, get 15% off your entire first order at happy mammoth.com with code next chapter at checkout. Visit happy mammoth.com today and get your old self back naturally. Get some! Welcome to TYT, I'm your host, Anna Kasparian, and despite the fact that I'm the only person on the set at the moment, Jake Ugar will be joining me in the second segment of the first hour. We're actually going to start the show today with a story about the presidential election in 2024, how Biden is doing in the polls.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And because Jank is running for president in the Democratic primary, we want to make sure that we have no conflicts of interest in the stories that we share with you and who shares those stories with you. So any story having to do with Joe Biden, we've decided to have Jank sit out those segments to maintain the integrity and the credibility of the show. But Jenk will be coming in in the second segment to help us cover the news of the day, including updates on the war in Gaza. But before we get to that, I did want to share this pretty devastating news for Biden
Starting point is 00:02:36 in regard to key battleground states, key swing states that he would need to win in order to win the presidential election. So without further ado, here are the details. The New York Times in Sienna College, it shows that Donald Trump is leading in Nevada, Georgia, Arizona, and Michigan, tight races in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. How worried are you about the president's re-election campaign? I was concerned before these polls, and I'm concerned now. You just heard from a prominent Democrat in Congress who was concerned about the chances of
Starting point is 00:03:14 President Joe Biden winning reelection, and he should have been concerned for quite some time already. However, a startling new poll shows Trump is in fact leading Biden in five key battleground states for the 2024 presidential election. Now, even some of the hardcore establishment Democrats are starting to come out in the public and vocalize their concerns, as you just heard. And we'll get back to that in just a moment. But first, why don't we get to the details of this New York Times, Sienna College poll, which was published exactly one year. of election day. So if you take a look at this chart,
Starting point is 00:03:51 it will show you exactly what we're talking about here. So Trump leads Biden 52% to 41% in Nevada, 49% to 43% in Georgia, 49% to 44% in Arizona, 48% to Biden's 43% in Michigan, and 48% to Biden's 44% in Pennsylvania, which is within the margin of error, but that is the only state within the margin of error.
Starting point is 00:04:17 margin of error. Then you have Wisconsin, the only battleground state where Biden is polling higher at 47% to Trump's 44%. And that's also actually well within the margin of error, which, you know, is concerning. So the sampling errors between 4.4 and 4.8 points. And if Trump were to win by the margins that are represented in the surveys published just this past Sunday, what you just saw, he would get more than 300 electoral college votes and easily win the presidential election. According to CNN, across these six battleground states, registered voters give Biden low job approval marks, 38% approved, with just 19% describing the economy as excellent or good. At the same time, only 42% in these states rate Trump favorably, similar to Biden's 41% favorability rate.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Now, registered voters, this poll, of course, has to do with likely voters, how they're likely to vote. And I do think it's interesting to see the consistency across these types of polls, which show that Biden's low favorability really ties into how Americans feel about the economy. They think about inflation. They think about gas prices. They don't think about what impacts gas prices or the fact that Biden actually. actually has very little impact on keeping gas prices low. It really has to do with oil production in the OPEC plus cartel.
Starting point is 00:05:52 But aside from that, a lot of Americans are struggling economically. And I do think that Biden has had a number of missteps, including the urgency in which he addressed the American people and demanded $106 billion in war funding for other countries when he knows full well that the American people, you know, working class citizens are are struggling right now. At the same time, you have a very real migrant crisis, which maybe for the first time isn't just impacting border towns. It's also impacting a lot of these, you know, democratic strongholds in these big blue cities.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And so Biden hasn't really addressed that appropriately. And voters are starting to get incredibly frustrated as a result. So registered voters in these six states, according to this New York Times-Syana College poll, Give Trump the edge over Biden in trust to handle the economy, immigration, national security, and the Israeli-Palestine conflict. They actually think Trump would have done a much better job in handling this conflict than Joe Biden has. So while Joe Biden is trying to present himself as this strong leader who is really going
Starting point is 00:07:03 out of his way to defend Israel, it's really not playing out so well for him here at home. A lot of Democratic voters are not very happy with his handling of that, especially because they see the images coming out of Gaza. They see the high civilian death toll, and they want the violence to stop. Then they turn to Biden to see what he's saying. They turn to Anthony Blinken to see what he's saying. And it's just wall-to-wall administration officials saying that Israel has the right to defend itself. We are not going to tell them to engage in a ceasefire. we might gently nudge toward a humanitarian pause, which they've now rebranded as a tactical
Starting point is 00:07:41 pause. But the American people aren't buying it. And it's clear that even when it comes to that issue, the majority of voters think that Trump would do a better job than Biden. Now, the voters say that they do trust Biden more than Trump on two issues. The first is abortion, which I'm very curious to see whether it will kind of carry Democrats through this upcoming election. It certainly helped Democrats during the midterms, but voters might be thinking about other issues by the time we hit the general election. They also think that Biden would do better with closing the split on like handling democracy, making sure to protect democracy. So with that said, let's take a look at the next chart because it'll give you some more
Starting point is 00:08:27 interesting details about how American voters are feeling about the two candidates. When asked whether Trump and Biden are too old. A whopping 71% said that Biden was too old, with only 39% saying the same of Trump. Now, Trump is up there in age as well, but if you see the speaking styles of the two candidates here, it's very obvious that Trump is more charismatic, he's more energetic for better or worse, whereas Biden tends to look into the camera as if he's squinting into the sun and speak slowly, seems tired. In fact, sometimes even says that he's tired and he's ready to go to bed, not playing out so well for him. 66% said that Biden doesn't have the mental sharpness needed to be president
Starting point is 00:09:15 compared to 44% who said the same of Trump. And 55% said Trump does not have the temperament to be president, while 51% said the same of Biden. And honestly, that tracks that Trump tends to get fiery, salty, angry. He tends to throw tantrums. Biden seems calm, but also incredibly sleepy. Now, Biden's margin of support among non-white voters under the age of 45 has actually plummeted. And this is the most damning result, in my opinion, from the poll. Because remember, Biden barely won in some of those battleground states in 2020. And it was the vote that turned up to save Biden, that might not happen this time around. So Biden's margin of support among non-white voters, under 45 has plummeted from 39 in 2020
Starting point is 00:10:12 to just six, according to this latest survey. But most concerning of all is his shedding of support among those young voters. So voters under 30 said they trusted Trump more on the economy by an extraordinary 28 percentage point margin after years of inflation and now high interest rates that have made mortgages far less affordable. So the lack of concern about the housing crisis, the lack of solutions for that very real problem that is crushing Americans across the board and certainly crushing young Americans who are getting ready to start families, they want to buy a home, they really want to get their lives going, the fact that they can't turn to the Democratic Party to help them on those issues or even propose some good solutions for that issue is starting to hurt the Democratic Party
Starting point is 00:11:20 and namely Joe Biden, according to the survey. Less than 1% of poll respondents under 30 rated the current economy is excellent, including zero poll respondents in that age group in three states, Arizona, Nevada, and Wisconsin. And look, it's not just the New York Times-Cyenne College poll that is just full of this damning information, damning results for Joe Biden and his chances of winning re-election. So there was also a CBS news poll over the weekend that found that Trump is ahead of Biden nationally, 51% to Biden's 48%. Now keep in mind, it's within the margin of error.
Starting point is 00:12:05 But nonetheless, I mean, this is not a good sign for Biden, clearly. We keep seeing poll after poll that indicates that Biden is either neck and neck with Donald Trump or Donald Trump has a slight edge. And look, to be clear, the margin of error for that CBS poll is 2.6 points. So Trump is leading 51 to 48. So, you know, it's plus or minus. Okay, Trump might actually be leading by more than that. We don't know exactly. But at the end of the day, Trump is leading Biden in that poll, even if it's slightly. And when Democrats were asked how they feel about Biden versus Trump and that whole rematch in 2024, here's what they had to say about it.
Starting point is 00:12:47 74% of the respondent said that they feel pretty nervous about it, 72% are frustrated. Only 23% of respondents in the CBS poll said that they felt any excitement over that rematch. And of course, team Biden is trying to play down the seriousness of these polls. They noted that a poll predicted that former president Barack Obama would lose a year before the 2012 presidential election took place. And that was when Obama was running for re-election up against Republican Mitt Romney. But let's just allow that argument to absorb for a minute and then consider the fact that when it came to Obama versus Romney, we were talking about a Democratic incumbent who was incredibly charismatic, incredibly energetic, incredibly young. And more importantly, someone who was smart enough to revert back to his hope and change,
Starting point is 00:13:44 talking points that got him elected in 2008. Obama immediately snapped back to the economic populist rhetoric and messaging, whereas with Joe Biden, I mean, he's not the charismatic one in this equation. Joe Biden is the individual who appears too old, does not appear sharp, seems incredibly sleepy. Then you have Donald Trump, who again is very animated, seems energetic, seems charismatic, tends to make audiences laugh, and more importantly, this is, I think, going to potentially carry Trump over if he does, in fact, win the Republican nomination. He's got a cult-like following. He has incredibly loyal supporters. Mitt Romney didn't have that. Mitt Romney did not have the charisma. So it's easier to dismiss some of the polling that came out prior to the
Starting point is 00:14:38 2012 presidential election. I think the consistency of the polls that we've been seeing in regard to the Trump-Biden rematch shows that Biden is in fact in a lot of trouble. But he remains undeterred. He wants to run for re-election. And anyone who is considering entering the race is ignored, you know, even if it's an establishment Democrats, that individual is completely ignored. The Democratic establishment refuses to have any debates. And what they're doing right now is playing with fire. You have them constantly fearmongering about the kind a threat that Donald Trump poses, but their actions speak louder than words. If they genuinely think that Donald Trump is a threat to the country, is a threat to the democracy, well, then they
Starting point is 00:15:21 would act like it, and they would want to run the best possible candidate. That is not what they're doing. They want Biden to run for reelection, regardless of how harmful it'll be at the chances of a Democrat controlling the executive branch after 2024. Now, a Biden campaign spokesperson Kevin Munoz said this in a statement. Coming off those historic midterms, President Biden's campaign is hard at work, reaching and mobilizing our diverse winning coalition of voters one year out on the choice between our winning popular agenda. I don't know about that. And MAGA Republicans' unpopular extremism will win in 2024 by putting our heads down and doing the work, not by fretting about a poll.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And again, I just invite you all to consider the nickel and dimming that took place in regard to the American people as the negotiations in Congress were underway for Biden's build back better agenda for the inflation reduction act. A lot of nickel and diamond when it came to important social programs that would have improved Americans lives, including improving childcare. So parents feel comfortable, actually, first of all, having
Starting point is 00:16:35 children and being able to afford child care so they can go work. There was supposed to be provisions in there to help with compensation for those engaging in elder care. There was supposed to be provisions in order to make higher education far more affordable for American students. There were supposed to be more robust provisions to help lower the price of pharmaceutical drugs. All of that stuff got nickel and dimed. But the second Hamas engaged in that disgusting, vicious and brutal terrorist attack in Israel, That was all it took for Biden to go on the world stage and ask the American people, along with our lawmakers, to approve $106 billion for war funding.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Now, it's not all for Israel, of course. Some of that money goes to Ukraine. Some of that money goes to bolster the border. Some of that money goes toward humanitarian aid in the Gaza Strip. But nonetheless, I think that the sense of urgency displayed by Biden doesn't bode well for him as the American people are struggling economically. It's just, it really doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure any of this out. And look, even David Axelrod is starting to ring the alarm on this.
Starting point is 00:17:49 So I'm going to give you a few of the posts that he put out there on X, formerly known as Twitter. It's very late to change horses. A lot will happen in the next year that no one can predict. And Biden's team says his resolve to run is firm. He's defied conventional wisdom before, but this will send tremors of doubt through the party, not bedwetting, but legitimate concern. I think he's right about that. He continues to say that the greatest concern is that his biggest liability is the one thing he can't change.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Among all the unpredictables, there is one thing that is sure. The age arrow only points in one direction. Only Joe Biden can make this decision. If he continues to run, he will be the nominee of the Democratic Party. What he needs to decide is whether that is wise, whether it's in his best interest or the countries. I mean, that is, in my opinion, quite a nudge toward Biden and toward his allies to basically stand down and make room for someone else to run in his place. And he also said that the stakes of this miscalculation, Axelrod said, that the stakes of this miscalculation are too, dramatic to ignore. And look, the one thing I'll leave you with, which I think is so incredibly
Starting point is 00:19:07 important to keep in mind, the same poll actually took a generic Democrat, just a generic Democrat and put that generic Democrat up against Donald Trump to see what the results would be. And guess what? The same New York Times poll found that a generic Democrat not named Joe Biden would actually beat Trump by eight points. So let that sink in, consider the selfishness of Joe Biden, and consider just how unserious the Democratic Party appears to be when on one hand, they endlessly fearmonger about the threat that Donald Trump poses to this democracy. But then on the other hand, they continue on with this magical thinking in regard to an incredibly
Starting point is 00:19:52 unpopular Democratic president who is now running for reelection. after he had promised he would not seek a second term. I think that's the best way to think about this story as we rapidly move toward barrel toward an iceberg. All right, we got to take a break. When we come back, Jank Yuga will be joining me to talk about the ongoing crisis and war in Gaza. All right, back on the Young Turks. Jane Cougar, Anna Kasparian with you guys. And I think Anna read the comments for all the wonderful people.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Stephen Lang and Ikutaku. Yeah. They just joined. You guys are awesome and American heroes. And thank you Chris Birch for the memberships that you gifted. Anna, take it away. All right, well, the story that breaks my heart every single day, we've got to give you an update on what's happening in Gaza, so let's do it.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And in the Magazi refugee camp, Hamas says another Israeli strike killed at least 38 people and injured 100 more. This photojournalist carried his dead child, one of four he lost, along with four brothers and their children. Photojournalist loses four of his own children in the Gaza Strip. Unfortunately, that is not a rarity in the Gaza Strip these days. Entire families continue to be wiped out by IDF airstrikes in response to what happened in Israel on October 7th when Hamas carried out a terrorist attack. Now, Israel, of course, says that they're going after Hamas.
Starting point is 00:21:42 But their military activity there, the aerial bombardments, which are relentless, show a pretty clear. clear disregard for human life. And if the actions don't speak to you and give you the reality of the situation, I'll give you actual statements from members of Netanyahu's Lakud Party. Now, the Israeli government, along with the Israeli defense forces, continue to shamelessly bomb refugee camps, knowing that the majority of those killed will in fact be civilians and children. Here are more details on that. This was the Mugazi refugee camp this morning. The panorama of destruction from the air
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Starting point is 00:23:41 US units makes it a legitimate target. What human price victory? It is the question that haunts this war, perhaps any war. And here too, both sides have answers that are unacceptable to the other. In Israeli fighter jets struck this ambulance convoy, claiming Hamas fighters were inside. Men and women laid in their own pools of blood outside the strip's biggest hospital, al-Shifa. Israel also hit Gaza's Jabaliyah refugee camp, the third time in five days, targeting more militants and infrastructure. In the aftermath, this anguished boy said he carried out dead bodies, including one decapitated. Now before I go to you, Jank, I think it's really important for people to understand that the images you're seeing are very much real. And despite what you might be hearing from Netanyahu, despite what you might be hearing from officials here in the United States, Biden, administration officials justifying what's happening and pretending as though there isn't this attempt to target Palestinian civilians or conflate Palestinian civilians with Hamas militants.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Let me give you some actual statements from politicians within Israel. Some Israeli hardliners advocate keeping control of Gaza and permanently expelling its Palestinian residents. That's called ethnic cleansing for those who might not know. A Lakud lawmaker, Ariel Kalner, has called for another Nakba that would overshadow the original mass displacement in 1948. Right now, one goal, Nakba, Kalner said on October 8th. Nakba in Gaza and Nakba to anyone who dares to join, he added. Also, a far right government minister, Amishay Ali Yahu, said on Wednesday that
Starting point is 00:25:33 Gaza land should be given to former Israeli soldiers who fought in Gaza or to former Israeli settlers who lived in the enclave before Israel withdrew from it in 2005. Then on Sunday, he said that Israel should consider dropping a nuclear bomb on Gaza, an idea that drew condemnation from Netanyahu and other members of the government. Netanyahu has decided to suspend him over that because he appeared to say the quiet parts too loudly. And finally in a statement, The UN chiefs said in a joint statement that an entire population is besieged and under attack denied access to the essentials for survival, bombed in their homes, shelters, hospitals, and places of worship.
Starting point is 00:26:17 This is unacceptable, we need an immediate humanitarian ceasefire. It's been 30 days, enough is enough, this must stop. There were 18 UN signatories on that letter. Netanyahu refuses a ceasefire. He barely wants to engage in tactical or humanitarian pauses in order to get humanitarian aid into the strip because it's not about saving human lives, innocent human lives. It's about getting your pound of flesh and it's about brutalizing these people while simultaneously conflating them with Hamas.
Starting point is 00:26:49 That is what's happening. Yeah, we should cut off all funding to Israel. 1,000%. It's not even close. So the extra $14 billion, I mean, anyone with a conscience would vote, no, that's easy. the current billions of dollars that we send to Israel, they get the most aid out of anyone, even though they're a very healthy economy. One of the largest economies in the world, one of the largest militaries in the world,
Starting point is 00:27:12 certainly one of the most capable, if not largest in terms of manpower. And I don't know why America is funding them in the first place for what? There are a big ally to do what, to set the whole world on fire and have 1.6 billion Muslims furious at America so that we can drop bombs. that say made in the USA on innocent civilians and have them hate us forever and ever and ever? How does that help America? How's this big ally helping us? I just don't get it. Oh, they're a big democracy. No, they're not. They're a democracy within Israel, but they occupy millions of Palestinians and give them no rights at all. It's a brutal occupation
Starting point is 00:27:50 that it seems to have no end at all. How is that a democracy? Imagine if any other country was like, oh, we have a democracy. Oh, yeah, yeah, we keep millions of people prisoners. You know, they're not allowed to go anywhere. They're not, any time we could cut off their water power and drop bombs on their heads. But we are a democracy. No, you're not. You're not even close. As long as you're occupying the Palestinians, you don't get to call yourself a democracy.
Starting point is 00:28:16 It's like China saying they're a democracy. It's absurd. It's totally absurd. So China's a little bit different case, but you get the point. I say that because the Chinese are, of course, got concentration camps for the Uyghur. And they say, what, what, what? I'm allowed to do concentration camps. No, you're not.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You certainly can't do that and call yourself a democracy. If you're upset at the words that I just use, you can call the open-air prisons that are the occupation, any words you like. It doesn't matter. It is deeply immoral. It is not right in any way. And I don't want a single American dollar going over there.
Starting point is 00:28:51 That's my money. That's your money. That's taxpayer money. Going to kill innocent civilians? Are we insane? I mean, look at the lunatic words coming out of the mouths of the right wing government of Israel. All these right wing members going, oh, yeah, let's just kill them all. Let's just do ethnic cleansing.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Let's do genocide. Knockbutt means catastrophe. That's what happened in 1948. They were all Palestinians were displaced. And now they're saying, yeah, let's do it on purpose. Before we were pretending we didn't do it, now I like that we're doing it. Let's celebrate that we're doing it. And let's drive these people out and kill as many civilians as possible.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Don't pretend that Israel is not purposely killing. civilians. You can't say I killed 13 Hamas members and 10,000 civilians. Imagine if Hamas did that. Oh, by the way, Hamas killed a lot more Israeli soldiers. So but, and they also kill tons of civilians, right? But they have a better ratio than Israel does. Israel has killed almost no Hamas members and killed 10,000 civilians. When you're five times as bad as Hamas, we should not send you a dollar. Yeah, and I want to give you two other pieces of information. that might convince you of what I think sober-minded individuals are seeing and acknowledging. One of the other things that happened recently, I want to go to the first graphic here.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Palestinian health officials said eight people were killed in an airstrike overnight on Gaza City's Rantisi Cancer Hospital. Israel's military said it was looking into the report. Now, Israel denies that it targets hospitals and refugee camps. Rather, they're targeting Hamas, which uses these structures and their inhabitants as human shields. But let's say we give them that argument that Hamas uses these Palestinian civilians as human shields. Well, you guys pulled the trigger, knowing that they're innocent civilians, many of whom are children, many of whom are women, many of whom are innocent civilians, right there who are going to lose their lives once you decide to sign off on that airstrike.
Starting point is 00:30:48 The other thing that I thought was fascinating was Israel decided to bomb one of the only water sources for Palestinians. near the Jabaliyah refugee camp. I don't know, were there like Hamas fighters hiding in the water pipes? Is that what the argument's gonna be? And by the way, you know, a Hamas statement called on UN Secretary General Antonio Gutierrez to form a committee to visit Gaza hospitals to verify Israel's false narrative that Hamas uses these hospitals as sites. Now they might, I don't know, I don't trust Hamas, I want to be clear about that.
Starting point is 00:31:25 But the fact that Hamas is calling on the UN to send a committee there to prove it, to show what's actually happening on the ground, I think speaks louder than just taking what the IDF says at face value. The civilian death toll is massively high. They have already confirmed on multiple occasions that one of their strategies is to push Palestinians outside of the Gaza Strip into Egypt, whatever remains of Palestinian civilians. And at the same time, you're seeing rage across the Arab world. We are sending, we're engaging in a military buildup in that region as we speak. And we're already seeing our troops get targeted
Starting point is 00:32:08 by rocket fire because of this, because of the rage, because of the anger. This is quickly expanding. I think we're already in like a low grade war with Lebanon. And I'll give you some details on that in just a moment. just Israel, would bomb the hell out of Muslim lands. Let's keep it real. Okay, and before that, of course, Vietnam and before that, other places as well. But now, for the last 20, 30 years, it's been pretty much almost exclusively Muslim lands. We just bombed them, bomb them, hundreds of thousands of civilians killed in Iraq when Iraq didn't even attack us. And then our politicians like jackasses and liars come out and go, I don't know why they're mad at us.
Starting point is 00:33:18 We were just trying to liberate them and give them freedom at the end of one of our bombs. And it blew their heads apart and it murdered their children. I don't know why they're mad at us. So we spend money that goes to defense contractors. They get unbelievably rich off of it. And then we make about a billion and a half enemies because we keep killing them. But the American people totally blinded the media telling all we had to. We had to attack Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:33:45 We had to attack Iraq. Israel had to kill all those Palestinians. Oh, they're hiding behind the civilians. What do you mean? You're occupying them. Where are they supposed to go? So, okay, and to Anna's point, and I've said this a million times, would you please, seriously, if you're out there in the audience, would you do it? Would you say, oh, that guy, that's a bad guy there.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Even hurt my family members. Hiding behind five civilians, an aunt, a sister, a baby, and two parents. Would you kill them? Would you say, yeah, yeah, I was getting the bad guy. So I murdered the baby, the aunt, et cetera, et cetera. I wouldn't do that. I would hope no decent person would do that. So how come our government is helping Israel do that?
Starting point is 00:34:25 Oh, and they are helping quite a bit. Yeah, and so I just want to say one more thing, though. But now that we're seeing the videos, whether it's through cell phones or or incredibly brave journalists who are risking death at the hands of Israel by reporting on the ground. Let's be super clear about it. risking death at the hands of Israel. Okay? So they go in there and they get those pictures.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Then you got to, then now you have all of a sudden you have a decision to make. Before we didn't see them. We didn't see them in Iraq. We didn't see them in Afghanistan. And we didn't see them earlier in these conflicts in Israel and Gaza. Now you're seeing them with your own eyes. And you go, oh my God, that is a kid. Oh my God, that guy is decapitated.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Oh my God, that is a woman crushed to death under all those blocks. Yes. Oh my God, who did that? We did that. We did that. Yep. We're funding Israel to drop bombs called that say made in the USA on top of their heads, killed them at a rate of 10,000 civilians, which is now what I'm losing track seven times worse
Starting point is 00:35:24 than Hamas. And then we say, well, I don't know why they hate us. That's why they hate us. We killed their civilians and we're doing it today and we still have a green light from the American government to do it. Let's go to Graphics 6 because this will help you understand just how many kids are dying are dying in Gaza every 10 minutes. On average, a child is killed and two are injured every 10 minutes during this war.
Starting point is 00:35:48 The UN relief agency for Palestinians said the UN. So I'd like to hear the Israeli government pretend as though these numbers aren't real, because they can't argue that Hamas controls the UN. The agencies, let me continue with that, let's put that back up. The agency's shelters in South Gaza are overcrowded and unable to take new arrival, new arrivals and many displaced people are sleeping in the streets, the UN humanitarian office said. And so this has led to a lot of rage toward the Biden administration for providing cover for the brutality that the Israeli government is basically carrying out against Palestinian people.
Starting point is 00:36:27 And so Blinken's like, oh, we got to do something about this. It's not going to bode so well for Biden's chances of getting reelected. And so Axios is reporting that Blinken continues to ask for humanitarian pauses, which is different from a ceasefire, in order to essentially get Americans off his back, get maybe some protesting members of the Arab world off the American government's back, but he's trying to sell it to Netanyahu by saying that this might even help them with their ground invasion. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken told his Israeli counterparts on Friday that agreeing to a humanitarian pause will help the U.S. fend off growing pressure it is facing over its support of Israel's brutality in Gaza. Okay, operation is a very
Starting point is 00:37:15 light way of putting it. Blinken said that the Biden administration is taking a lot of fire domestically and internationally because it is giving Israel its full backing. And then get a load of this. Blinken's message, according to one U.S. and two Israeli officials was, we don't want to stop you, but help us help you get more time. To kill more people. Oh, I feel on that part. So in other words, green light, 100% green light. We don't want to stop you. We want to help you with your propaganda that you're, and so that you can catch your breath and then kill more Palestinians. So that's the current American position and it's disgusting. And so look, there's a rebellion now in America. So we've got, the left wing was never in
Starting point is 00:37:59 favor of this brutality and this monstrous behavior on the part of the right wing government of Israel. Now a lot of right wingers are saying, I don't get it, man. Why are we killing these people? I just don't get it. And so they're in the America First crowd. America First isn't like, I'm not getting anyone. Now we're going to give more money to Israel to kill more civilians who are then going to come bomb us. Why? Why are we doing that? Good question. Why are we doing that? Why? No one's asking why? For what? These nonsense talking points about how they're a democracy and how they're an ally. All they ever do is get us in trouble. And it's not because of who they are.
Starting point is 00:38:37 It's because of what they do. It is the government's actions. If they were attacked by Hamas, we all, and when they were, we all had sympathy. All Americans were on the same team. We wanted to support Israel. Now they're like, okay, we're killing way more civilians than the terrorists.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Are you still with us? And our answer in America, according to the polling, is no, no, we're not with you. We don't want to spend money to have you kill those innocent people. And so, but our politicians, No way. No way. So who, who, like what? Is every politician in D.C. or almost all of them, they're just bloodthirsty. They like killing civilians. What is it? No, they like money. That's what it is. Yeah. So now, of course, go ahead, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:39:20 They're afraid of APAC. They're afraid like Federman. Okay, Federman is terrified about what APAC and the Democratic majority of Israel is going to do to him if he grows the pair necessary to call out what is actually transpiring in the Gaza Strip. You can't say that about Senator Bernie Sanders, who also fails to call for a ceasefire. Maybe Bernie genuinely thinks that, you know, despite the brutality that Palestinian civilians are dealing with right now, I'm gonna support Israel anyway because of what Hamas did. But if you think that this is gonna root out Hamas, that is laughable to say the least. Hamas leaders are not even in the Gaza Strip, they're in other countries.
Starting point is 00:39:59 They're in Lebanon, they're in Qatar, there's no conversation about making a deal with those countries. to turn over those Hamas leaders and bring them to justice. However the Israeli government wants to bring them to justice, I don't even give a damn. But I think that the targeting of civilians is pretty clear. I think that there is acknowledgement, even among some U.S. officials, that what they're doing is not going to keep Israeli civilians safe in the long run. But they want their pound of flesh. So I guess they're getting it.
Starting point is 00:40:27 It's just that we're also co-signing to a potential expanded war with other countries. Real quick, Jenk, I wanted to mention the details about Lebanon. So tensions increased with Lebanon after an Israeli strike on a car in the south of the country killed three children and their grandmother, Lebanese authorities said. Israel said it hit terrorist targets of Hezbollah in south Lebanon in response to a missile attack against tanks that killed an Israeli citizen. Hezbollah said it responded by firing rockets at Kirat, Shmona town in northern. northern Israel. And we are building weapons, like we're amassing weaponry and military presence
Starting point is 00:41:10 in that region. In fact, the U.S. military announced something over the weekend. So the U.S. Central Command said on a social media post on Sunday that an Ohio class submarine was entering its area of responsibility. A picture posted with the announcement appeared to show the sub in the Suez Canal northeast of Cairo. And so this is a sub that has the capability to launch guided missiles. And they say that this is an attempt to deter any potential expansion of the war. But it's also considered provocative for these countries in that region to see an increased and aggressive military presence there.
Starting point is 00:41:51 It is, again, provocative. And it might actually lead, in my opinion, to a worse situation. not a better situation. I think if you want a real deterrent, you persuade Israel to engage in a ceasefire. And when Netanyahu says no, you threaten to pull the funding. But the U.S. government isn't willing to do that. So we're just sending our boys and girls into harm's way. Just like hoping that Iran or some other country kills them so that we have an excuse to attack and start a much larger war. Does Israel's military can't handle Hamas and Gaza? They seem to be destroying every square inch of Gaza.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Why do they need our aircraft carrier? They don't have enough weapons? That's absurd. The only reason the aircraft carrier goes there is to get attacked. Like, they're crossing their fingers. Please attack us. Please attack us. So we have an excuse to start a giant war.
Starting point is 00:42:43 And so guys, look, Anna Mesh and APEC, if you're a lunatic, you think, no, APAC and Democratic majority for Israel has no effect, even though they spend millions of dollars in every campaign in campaigns, like the one against Nina Turner. and they eliminate their political opponents, but golly, gee, we can't talk about it. No, I can talk about it. That's definitely a factor. But they're not the largest factor. The largest factor is defense contractors.
Starting point is 00:43:08 So that $14 billion is not going to go to Israel. It's going to go to defense contractors and then to Israel. And they're going to take their, the defense contractors are the ones taking the pound of flesh. They're going to take all the money. And they're then going to give bribes to every stupid American politician that takes bribes. Yes, they're bribes from defense contractors, campaign contributions, my ass, that goes to your power, your fame, your status. That's how you buy it with the blood of Palestinian children. And so the defense contractors just think, oh my God, yes, send the aircraft carrier.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Please attack America. Come on, Raytheon executives, Lockheed Martin executives, all of you guys, you're telling me you're not preparing right now that you don't have spreadsheets that are ready to make an unbelievable literal. killing on this if a war with Iran starts? And the guys, right wing, left wing, moderate wing, it doesn't matter. How does this help America? Show me one way that this helps America. So last two things here, they say, oh, this is not an endless war, it isn't. How do we know when Hamas has been defeated?
Starting point is 00:44:15 It's literally an impossible standard. There is no arbiter, there's no ref, there's no nothing who can say, oh, okay, whistle, Hamas is now defeated. It's not a thing. It's just a BS excuse to kill more Palestinians and maybe ethnically cleanse them and maybe reclaim Gaza according to some of the right wing officials in the Israeli government thinking, oh great, we'll take their land too. We'll kill them and take their land. Look, I'm going to say this analogy one more time. But when the Ottoman Empire was breaking apart, a lot of different ethnicities attacked the Ottoman Empire. That's what happens when an empire
Starting point is 00:44:53 is decay. The Greeks attacked, the Bulgarians attacked, the Armenians attacked. And in the Armenian attack, the Turkish, at the time, the Ottoman government went and killed tons of innocent Armenian civilians as well as the people who attacked. Then they drove them, they marched them. And tons of people died in that march, okay? And that's what we call the Armenian genocide. So, and you know what the Ottoman government said at the time? We have a right to defend ourselves. these Armenian rebels attacked our troops and attacked our civilians. We have a right to defend ourselves. And if America was around on the Ottoman side at the time,
Starting point is 00:45:32 they would have like, what, what, what, what? Let's send money to the Ottomans. They have a right to defend themselves. Let them kill as many civilians as they like. That's literally what we're doing right now in Israel. Last thing, look, I don't want to put pressure on Jewish Americans. It's not their business. They're not Israelis.
Starting point is 00:45:48 They're Americans, okay? But I have hope and I have faith. What I've seen is not only are the right wing, left wing, et cetera, now turning on this issue, but tons and tons of wonderful, moral Jewish Americans are saying, not in my name, don't do this in my name. All you're doing is sullying my name. Don't do it. Don't do it. I'm not signing up for this.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I love those folks. They're not just wonderful Americans. They're wonderful human beings who are trying to get to the right answer. And I love that they're saying, do not do this in my name. Thank you. All right, everyone, we're going to take a brief break when we come back. Obama has weighed in on what's happening in Gaza. It's important to share that with you along with kind of going back in time to kind of see
Starting point is 00:46:31 the relationship that Obama had with Netanyahu. More importantly, the kind of relationship that Trump actually had with Netanyahu. Come right back. All right, back on TYT, Jankanana and Mama Ritchie with you guys. Thank you for signing up. We appreciate you. You could do likewise by hitting the join button or go to tytt.com slash join Anna. Let's get right to our next story.
Starting point is 00:47:12 What is also true is that the occupation, and what's happening to Palestinians is unbearable. There are people right now who are dying who have nothing to do with what Hamas did. That was former President Barack Obama weighing in on the brutal airstrikes that have been killing innocent civilians in the Gaza Strip, drawing attention. to the unbearable deaths of these innocent Palestinians. Now, Obama made these statements during an appearance on Pod Save America. Here's more of what he had to say.
Starting point is 00:47:58 What Hamas did was horrific, and there's no justification for it. And what is also true is that the occupation and what's happening to Palestinians is is unbearable. If you want to solve the problem, then you have to take in the whole truth and you then have to admit nobody's hands are clean
Starting point is 00:48:33 that all of us are complicit to some degree. I look at this and I think back what could I have done during my presidency to move this forward as hard as I tried. I've got the scars to prove it. But there's a part of me that's still saying, well, was there something else I could have done? That's the conversation
Starting point is 00:48:58 we should be having, not just looking backwards, but looking forward. Now typically, when a former president comes out and says something that seems provocative or courageous, I'll be critical of them because it's like, hey, where was that courageous attitude when you were in charge? But to be fair to Obama, he actually had a notoriously frosty relationship with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu because he was one of the few presidents who, American presidents, who was willing to demand that Netanyahu pumped the brakes when it came to illegal settlements and when it came to any brutality toward Palestinian civilians. And he also bumped heads quite a bit with Netanyahu when he secured the Iran nuclear deal.
Starting point is 00:49:45 which I'll give you more details about in just a moment, Netanyahu did not want an Iran nuclear deal. Netanyahu has always been thirsty for war with Iran, and of course not to fight that war with just the IDF, but to pressure the United States to involve its own military in that war. So here's a video just kind of summarizing some of the issues they had when Obama was in charge. Analysts say President Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu despise each other. There's a fundamental sense of mistrust. Former State Department insider Aaron David Miller calls the relationship the most dysfunctional ever. Each side thinking the other is ignoring their interests.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I think the president looks at Netanyahu. He doesn't feel that there's much respect for American interests. And the prime minister looks at the president considers him bloodless and insensitive when it comes to really understanding Israel needs. Remember that's supposed to be private exchange between the then French president and Obama in 2011. Sarkozy saying, I cannot bear Netanyahu. He's a liar. Obama responding, but I have to deal with him even more often than you. But look, it wasn't just Obama who had deep issues with Netanyahu. So did Donald Trump. You've probably heard that Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu, or BB, as he's called, were best buds that it was a bromance. Well,
Starting point is 00:51:09 Well, turns out that's b'u- by the end of his presidency, Donald Trump couldn't stand Netanyahu. He thought Netanyahu was disloyal and ungrateful for everything he had done for him. By the time I talked to Trump in April 2021, he was over, BB. I haven't spoken to him since, right? I didn't talk to him. That's right, Donald Trump said F them when it came to Benjamin Netanyahu. And one more clip that's really important because Trump disclosed that he did not believe that Netanyahu was ever really serious about pursuing peace. Let's watch. What a lot of people don't know is that actually in the first year of his presidency, and Trump told me this, his relationship with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas was very, very good.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And it was almost like a father. I think he was so nice. Couldn't have been nicer. Now, the world and me, before I met with both of them, I thought it was the exact opposite. I thought the Palestinians were impossible. And the Israelis would do anything to make peace and a deal. I found that not to be true. And I find it very interesting and actually kind of support.
Starting point is 00:52:32 surprising that like Obama and Bill Clinton, Trump also came to the conclusion that BB was not sincere about wanting peace with the Palestinians. I think he just tapped us along. They just tap, tap, tap, tap. I don't think BB ever wanted to make peace. I think Trump was right about that. I think Obama was right about Netanyahu's lack of concern with establishing a more peaceful environment between Palestinians and Israelis in that region.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Yeah, almost everybody who deals with Netanyahu thinks he's disgusting, one of the most immoral liars that the world has seen in a long time. So it's such a look, as a lot of our world leaders are a scar upon our nations like Trump was to America and Dick Cheney was to America and Bush, Narawan, Turkey, Netanyahu, Israel, Putin, Russia. These are all stains on these countries. Is Putin, the bloodthirsty Putin, really a representative of the Russian people? I hope not. And I don't think so at all, okay? And I don't think Netanyahu's a good representative of the Israeli people. Everyone loathes them for good reason.
Starting point is 00:53:42 All he cares about is himself. He has no morality at all. And he's willing to kill as many innocent civilians as any terrorist. Let's be honest about it. Let's be honest about it. So he's now killed, what, seven times as many Palestinian civilians as the leader of Hamas has. So those are facts. We said, oh, oops, it was an accident.
Starting point is 00:54:04 It was an accident that I'd killed 10,000 civilians. No one thinks it's an accident. Only like people who are just obsessed with defending Israel, no matter what, would say that. No rational human being would think, thinks that all 10,000 civilians was just an accident, just collateral damages we were getting the 13 Hamas guys. Okay, so one, I want to give credit to Barack Obama. I often criticize them for not coming out and making statements, being comfortable in his home. Oh, I'm an ex-president.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Oh, I don't get to say anything, right? No, no, no, no, no. We could use your moral clarity from time to time. And here, credit where credit is due. Thank you. You see that? Now, everybody's talking about what Obama said. And how even Obama is saying, how many civilians are we going to kill?
Starting point is 00:54:53 See, we need that moral clarity from time to time. So thank you, President Obama. Okay, now Trump, it breaks up into two different things. We covered that story before. Trump is bitter at Netanyahu for a lot of personal stuff, not backing him on the 2020 election, which is absurd. He thought he didn't thank him enough, et cetera. And on that one though, that's only half absurd because Trump did everything for
Starting point is 00:55:16 Netanyahu. Yes, very true. And he moved our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, which Netanyahu wanted. He got out of the Iran peace deal, which Netanyahu wanted. He killed the top Iranian general. Netanyahu is thrilled about that. Trump almost started a war for Netanyahu, and Netanyahu still was like, nah, who cares?
Starting point is 00:55:34 Me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Okay, ironically, him and Trump are a good couple that way. They don't care about any other human being other than themselves. But the substantive things that Trump said, that's the second half, those are very real and very honest. And you heard it for yourself right there. Whether you're Trump, whether you love Trump or you hate Trump, there's no question that the second half of what he said is absolutely true. Nan Yahoo has never wanted peace. He profits from war. He profits from death.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And he would rather, just like Dick Cheney here in America and on and on with all these different war mongers in these different countries, they think war and innocent people being murdered is helpful to my political career. So they have no interest in peace. Nanjahu has never wanted peace. He's a monumental liar. And the Israeli people should fire him immediately. And for God's sake, and for Israel's sake, let alone the Palestinians, do peace. Peace right away. Tuesday's solution instantly.
Starting point is 00:56:35 That way the world can heal. And the world can finally, wouldn't it be amazing if the world accepted Israel and said, okay, you're not occupying people anymore. imprisoning and oppressing people anymore. Welcome to the all welcome to civilization and to and to the nations of the world that that have agreed to certain moral rules and Israel to this moment run by right-winger who say no we we demand to oppress Palestinians I guess forever literally forever we demand it and we and if anyone disagrees they're anti-Semitic yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:57:12 yeah that stuff's not working at all anymore in the world In America, anytime anybody says that now, it's a laughing stuck, total joke. Oh, you're using that stupid old excuse? And by the way, it's such a sick thing to do because there's real anti-sambidism in the world. And it's a giant problem here in America. And then now you want to use it for political tricks so you can kill more Palestinian civilians? No, that's not gonna fly. All right, we're gonna switch gears when we go to the second hour of the show.
Starting point is 00:57:39 So stick around for that. We'll give you updates on the civil trial that Trump is facing regarding his fraud, financial fraud. So there's that and more coming up. Don't miss it. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work, listen to ad-free, access members-only bonus content, and more by subscribing to Apple Podcasts at apple.com slash t-y-t.
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