The Young Turks - Cook The Booker - October 14, 2025

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. All right, welcome to the Young Turk's chain, Eger, Anna Kusperian with you guys. We're going to have an excellent show for you, all right? So number one, we're going to do two hours of news. You win. Number two, we're going to do Operation Joy.
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Starting point is 00:01:24 Turns out Israel has violated the ceasefire on day one. No one could have seen it coming, I know, right? But we'll get to that in a minute. Casper, what are we starting with? Well, look, let me just tease that story a little more. You know, there are allegations that it's really Hamas who broke the ceasefire. We're going to get into the nuances of that story and more. So definitely stick around for that.
Starting point is 00:01:49 And I don't in any way celebrate the fact that it appears that the ceasefire isn't going to hold because I want people to live in peace. but just stick around for that story. I spent a lot of time researching it because the reporting has been total dog crap on it. So I had to do a lot more research than usual to figure out what was going on. Anyway, I figured we can start with a video
Starting point is 00:02:09 that caught my attention. It was sent to me by super producer Kate Petino. And it has to do with Senator Cory Booker. So let me set this up. Jennifer Welch, who's the host of the I've Had It podcast, had a special guest on her program, Senator Cory Booker, a Democratic senator, and she asked him an important question about, well, foreign policy, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, and more. Let's hear what he had to say.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Do you think he's a war criminal, Benjamin Netanyahu? Do you think he's a war criminal? Again, these are questions that a lot of people think are the important litmus tests that are loaded and hot. My urgency is to be an effective leader in bringing an end to into this crisis. And I give these questions all the time that, to me, undermine my urgency. I think the thing that Democrats get so frustrated with, where we are right now, where you see like the Zoron Mamdonis and the grand platiners rise up, because they can go on podcast and you can say, do you think Benjamin Netanyahu's a war criminal? And they just say, yes. And that's the end of it. It's not all of the rhetoric answering. It's like what happens to Democratic politicians,
Starting point is 00:03:24 is they go through this like prism. And then we can't ever get like the answer to yes or no conversations like you do with Bernie and others. And that's the frustration for the Democratic face with leadership. Do I think Netanyahu is worse than Trump? Yes. Do I think Netanyahu is worse than Trump? Yes. That that wasn't the question. The question was, do you think Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal? And as you can see, Jank, he avoided answering that question.
Starting point is 00:03:53 and I can get into the reasons why this Democratic senator avoided answering that question, even though there's an abundance of evidence indicating that he broke international laws and engaged in war crimes and is in fact wanted by the international criminal court due to the war crimes he has committed. But what did you make of what Cory Booker had to say? Maybe we're misunderstanding him. Maybe we're not giving him credit for his urgency in, pursuing peace in the Middle East. What do you think? Yeah. So Cory Booker and I will be the
Starting point is 00:04:28 exact opposite because Cory Booker loves word salad. Did you see that in the beginning there? You know, because of the urgency of the question, that's why I need to not answer it and do the urgency of leadership. And what are you talking about? And what urgency of leadership are you doing other than hiding behind people while taking a picture with Netanyahu, he literally did that. And hiding his record. hiding his real beliefs. He doesn't have any real beliefs. Okay, so I'm going to do the opposite. I'm going to be blunt. So Cory Booker is corrupt and works for Israel. That is super obvious, and we're gonna prove it to you. We're gonna show you, you know, receipts for how much
Starting point is 00:05:07 money he's taken from APEC, et cetera. But look, I don't want to sound like a broken record, but it is the same answer every time. Mainstream media will not show you that clip. They will, and they will not criticize Cory Booker for that at all. They will try to hide that clip from you. They'll try to make sure that you don't find out how much money Cory Booker has gotten from the Israeli lobby and that you never connect his votes and his lack of urgency, if you will, to borrow a phrase from Cory Booker about this issue with the fact that he's being legally bribed by the Israeli lobby.
Starting point is 00:05:45 That's what's happening. He's a crook and almost all of mainstream media. a crook and they all work for Israel. So, but go ahead, Anna. Well, look, I think you're right in regard to how the American corporate media covers this very topic, how they really avoid weighing in on the corrupting factors in our federal government. And so you're right about that. But one thing that I will just point to is the fact that there has been this longstanding illusion of real disagreement among the two political parties on everything. And the fact of the matter is there are disagreements among the two political parties. I think immigration policy is probably
Starting point is 00:06:27 the most substantive area in which there is disagreement between the two parties. But putting that aside, when it comes to questions of foreign policy, I don't think it's really rare to find Democratic lawmakers who are just as hawkish as Republican lawmakers. And that's, in my opinion, not due to, you know, their values or their deep-seated principles. I think it has far more to do with the fact that we have legalized bribery in this country. The very thing that you, you know, get angry about and talk about on the show on a regular basis. And, you know, I want to give ordinary rank-and-file Americans, regardless of where they stand in the political spectrum, a lot of credit. Because the transition away or the moving away from corporate media, from legacy media also was not an accident.
Starting point is 00:07:14 that you have cable news dying, the fact that you have traditional network news like CBS dying, is because Americans don't trust those institutions anymore because they've been discovered to not tell you the full story or essentially stick to a specific narrative that suits the interests of the elite and the powerful. And so just to give you guys a little more background information, APEC tracker says that Cory Booker has received close to $900,000, $871,5606.000. from the Israel lobby to be exact. And if you if you guys can remember six years ago, back in 2019, March of 2019, the Intercept had reported on a leaked recording in which Cory Booker said that he and the APAC president text message back and forth like teenagers.
Starting point is 00:08:04 You must be so proud. Now with that in mind, luckily Welch asked Booker about the money he has taken from APAC. I actually haven't seen this video yet and I'm super just. jazz that we have it. So let's see how he answered that question. I have disagreements with a lot of people. Look, I'm one of a handful of people that don't take corporate PAC money. I don't understand my Democratic money. What about AIPAC money? You take AIPAC money, don't you? A minuscule percentage of my resources come to me. I raised like 800,000. Yeah, but that's a lifetime number of raising tens of millions of dollars. Let me give you the right stat. The majority of my money comes from
Starting point is 00:08:39 small dollar contributions. By last report, I think 76% of it came from people that gave $25,000, or less. So this, this to me is about, again, we could pick at each other or we could do what we need to be doing right now. You think we don't know that dirty deeds are done dirt cheap, Cory Booker? And I'm sorry, but close to a million dollars, $900,000, that's not a small amount of money. The fact that he's trying to convince the American people that taking close to a million dollars in bribe money really has no impact on where you stand politically is laughable to me. And when you couple that with the fact that he was caught in a leaked recording, bragging about how he texts with the president of APEC like a teenager, the guy knows
Starting point is 00:09:33 where his bread is buttered. I don't know what he actually believes about what's happening in the Middle East. I don't know if personally, you know, he thinks that what Netanyahu is doing is wrong or what's been happening to the Palestinian people for many, many decades is wrong. We don't know who Corey Booker really is because he's paid to be what you're seeing on your screen today. This episode is brought to you by prize picks. You and I make decisions every day, but on prize picks, being right can get you paid. Don't miss any of the excitement this football season. on prize picks where it's good to be right, and I love being right.
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Starting point is 00:11:30 your first $5 lineup. Price Picks, it's good to be right. Yeah, so it's much, much worse than that, Anna, because there's so many different layers to the Israeli lobby money. So there's the money they give you directly, which in this case is $871,000, which he minimizes like it's no big deal. Come on, like, oh yeah, politicians not affected by $871,000. Get out of here. But that's actually the tip of the iceberg. If you remember the story we covered about a week ago, Larry Ellison met with Marco Rubio back in 2016. when he was running for president, and he had to pass the test of, will he kiss Israel's ass enough? And then Ellison reported back to the Israeli ambassador, he has passed the test.
Starting point is 00:12:22 He will basically do whatever we command him to do about Israel. And then a super PAC supporting Marco Rubio got $5 million. So if you look at the APAC tracker, for example, it says a million dollars, a little over a million for Marco Rubio. But that doesn't count just the $5 million that Larry Ellison gave him in a super PAC. Let alone all of the other money in Super PACs, little on all the dark money that no one can track. Okay, but also on top of that, Anna, there's the money that APAC spends against you.
Starting point is 00:12:52 So first they started spending $4 million against Andy Levin in Michigan and then Nina Turner in Ohio. Then they started ratching it up and against Jamal Bowman. They spent $20 million to defeat Jamal Bowman. So now Cory Booker is a, you know, class cheesy politician. He knows all that. And he makes it something like, it says 870,000 dollars. I mean, I raised so much corrupt money, tens of millions of dollars throughout my life. And I serve those guys way more than I serve Israel. But let's ignore it. Get out of here, man.
Starting point is 00:13:25 No one believes you, you're a dog for Israel. A total and utter dog for them. So, and to be fair to Cory Booker, though, they all are, almost all of them, not Bernie, not some others, not Rokana, but certainly the great majority of the Democratic senators loyally serve Israel, not America. Obviously almost all of the Republican senators do. Not almost all of them do. There are a couple of congressmen like Tom Massey and Marjorie Taylor agreeing that don't. They're free and they represent Americans agree and disagree on different issues, but at least they're free. Okay. So, but there's one other element, Anna, that Cory Booker's perfectly aware of that if you criticize Israel, even 1% mainstream media will rip your face off.
Starting point is 00:14:07 They'll start, the Israeli thugs, pro-Israeli thugs here in America will claim that he's anti-Semitic, and then they'll go on this giant campaign, oh Cory Booker, anti-Semite, pro-Hamas, pro-terrorist, Cory Booker, terrible, terrible, big and hateful. And then mainstream media will pile on story after story on cable news, is Cory Booker the worst anti-Semite schobbles, right? And they'll do all of that. He knows that. He's like, well, I don't want to get buried by mainstream media. I don't want to get buried by A-pack at a $20 million avalanche against me. And I like the bribes they're giving me. Yeah, they're legalized, but there are still bribes. And I'm not telling you about the ones I'm getting from the super
Starting point is 00:14:48 bags and the dark money. So, Corey, look, here's what you're not getting. We caught all of you. So all of your BS, that doesn't work at all. So go take that BSNBC where they probably fillate you over. Oh, you're so sophisticated, right? None of us find you sophisticated. You're just another crook. Yeah, I agree with you. And look, I totally agree in regard to what motivates Cory Booker.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It's not just the direct money he receives from the Israel lobby, but it's also, honestly, Honestly, it's the fact that he, when she talks about the popularity of Zoran Mamdani, as we all know, Zoran Mamdani has been attacked by the mainstream media, specifically because of his views on Israel. Now, I wish they spent more time analyzing some of the policy proposals he has, because I think that's way more important than what he views in terms of the best possible foreign policy in the Middle East. He's going to be the mayor of New York City.
Starting point is 00:15:53 He's not going to have any jurisdiction over foreign policy. But again, I think that his popularity also has to do with the fact that the media, the corporate media, which the American public in general really doesn't trust, continues to attack him. It only has helped Mamdani. But these like dinosaurs of the political establishment don't understand it. And they think that everything is operating as business as usual. He's so, Cory Booker is so utterly detached from ordinary Americans that he doesn't really understand how fed up people are with the fact that, well, Congress pretty much does nothing for ordinary people these days. And then on top of that, you know, you have a government shutdown. They're still collecting our taxes. They're still collecting a paycheck, by the way. And when it comes to funding for foreign wars, well, there's no debate about that. That passes easily. Yeah, Americans are sick of it, left and right. And so we'll see how this plays for Cory Booker moving forward, but I think he's wrong in thinking that things are operating the way they previously did.
Starting point is 00:16:59 If he's afraid of the media, the corporate media attacking him, well, he's got a bad head on his shoulders. Let's just put it that way. Yeah, the last two things. He says, well, you know, instead of spending our time picking at each other, this is what corporate Democrats always do. Shut up and obey us. We're going to give all of your money to Israel. Oh, you're criticizing us because they're in the middle of a genocide and the guy, I'm just a guy. supporting and love and cherish and have supported throughout my career as a war criminal
Starting point is 00:17:25 and I won't say it. Well, you're just, we're just picking at each other. But brother, you're not on our side. What do you mean each other? We don't want to fund a genocide. You do want to fund a genocide. We want you to work for America. You want to work for Israel. By the way, you also want to work for all your other donors. Have you like torn the place apart demanding that we negotiate drug prices at Medicare? You might have done some BS theatrics about it. You You might have spoken out and done a filibuster literally on nothing, on nothing. That stuff is going to work for 78 year olds that watch CNN and MSNBC. The rest of us know that your filibuster was literally over nothing and that you're not doing
Starting point is 00:18:06 anything to negotiate drug prices. You didn't do it when the Democrats were in charge. You didn't insist on it. You didn't insist on the minimum wage. When Biden was in charge, you didn't insist on anything that is our priorities. You don't work for us. You're not on the Democratic side. You're on the side of the donor class.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And we're not on the side of the donor class. So look, and that leads to the last point, which is what Anna was saying. These guys in Washington, they still don't get it because everyone they know is also corrupt. So they go to their parties and they go on TV and they go to all these things and they're like, and they play ass slap football with each other. It's just great, isn't it? Oh, my donors are great. We're still lying to everyone, right?
Starting point is 00:18:45 We're not going to get caught. Dude, we know your actors, you're all caught. The minute he goes online and does an interview, they ask him the simplest question is Danielle a war criminal. 98% of the planet thinks he is. The other 2% live in Washington. It's actually a super easy question. He's like, I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah, go try that stuff on Scarborough, okay? That stuff doesn't fly here. So just another typical greasy politician. When we come back from the break, we'll get into where the current ceasefire stands between Israel and Hamas. Later on in the show, we'll get into some other topics, including, well, one of the Jewish journalists who ended up getting detained by the Israelis. We should talk about the condition she's in now that she's been released. We'll be right back. All right on T.O.D. Jank, Anna Farouk al-Shikli, Wassim Fayyad, and Barry Motovah. Thank you guys. We appreciate you all for joining. Now you're part of the show. That's why I read your names. And thank you for allowing us to do the show. And to some degree, being the voice for some of you out there.
Starting point is 00:20:15 as we fight back against the corruption. All right, Anna, what's thanks? Well, I wanted to revisit our discussion about the very fragile ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, and it is in fact incredibly fragile, so much so that you now have both sides accusing each other of essentially violating it. So let's get to the details.
Starting point is 00:20:35 The Israelis have already de facto annexed Gaza and de facto annex the West Bank. Their principal goal now, is to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians out of those two areas. The idea of ethnically cleansing greater Israel has been wired into Zionism from the very beginning. Legendary political scientist John Mearsheimer, the man who co-wrote the book, The Israel Lobby, unfortunately does not believe that the ceasefire in Gaza will hold.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And honestly, with some of the latest developments, he has good reason to believe that the ceasefire will not hold, as both sides have already begun to accuse each other of violating the deal. Now, I want to be very precise with our rhetoric and our language when we cover this story. I made a few mistakes yesterday in referring to this as a peace deal. The fact of the matter is, there hasn't been a peace deal. I want to say yet, but when it comes to a peace deal, honestly, I don't know if we're ever even going to reach that. So what we're really discussing here is a ceasefire and the question is whether it's going to hold. Now, unfortunately, there have been more Palestinian deaths in the Gaza Strip at the hands of the IDF. The IDF has, you know, admitted to
Starting point is 00:21:54 carrying out some of these acts of violence. So as of this morning, the Palestinian Health Ministry in Gaza says that 44 people have been killed and 29 injured in the past 24 hours as a result of Israeli attacks, taking the death toll to 67,913. And according to the independent, seven, seven Palestinians have been killed after Israeli forces opened fire on suspects. They say approach soldiers near an agreed upon ceasefire line in northern Gaza. So, look, we have no way of confirming that. And if I had to bet money on it, I would not, in any trust what the IDF has to say. I also wouldn't just trust what Hamas has to say. But the idea that you shouldn't kill seven people simply because they're approaching you, remember Palestinians
Starting point is 00:22:49 are unarmed. Like I just, why is that the first response to just shoot and kill seven people right there on the spot? But they have confessed to that. Now, an Israeli drone strike also killed five people as they returned to check on their homes in Gaza's eastern Shijaya. neighborhood, according to authorities. A separate strike killed one person and injured another near Con Unis. Now, if you guys can remember from our coverage yesterday, I talked a little bit about how Israel agreed that they would no longer carry out during the ceasefire any offensive military operations, that they would only carry out defensive military operations.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And so the argument that they're going to make moving forward is every Palestinian that the IDF kills pose a threat. they did what they did because they were just defending themselves. But I also want to remind you all that they're still not allowing international journalists into the Gaza Strip where, you know, maybe some investigative reporting can confirm which side is telling the truth, which side is lying. And it's just, it's a terrible situation. Now, on top of that, there's the issue of the deceased hostages and the fact that Hamas has not returned all of the remains of the deceased hostages. So look, prior to the ceasefire, Hamas was in possession of the remains of 26th, 26 deceased hostages. So far, say that again, Jank?
Starting point is 00:24:16 I think it's 28, Anna. Oh, okay. Yeah, I think it's 20. I'm sorry, the Guardian said 26 today, but okay, that's fine. So, all right, let's go with 28. It doesn't matter. They haven't released the remains of every deceased hostage. And that has upset the Palestinians, but there's nuance in this part of the story that I want to talk a little bit about.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Now, they've returned the remains of four of the deceased hostages. There are reports that they are planning on returning four more deceased hostages later tonight. So we'll wait and see if that happens. However, it's really, really important to keep in mind that if you look at the ceasefire deal that was signed by the two parties, right? This is the first stage of the ceasefire. There was an agreement that, look, it's going to be difficult to locate the remains of all of these deceased hostages. Some of them are buried under the rubble, for instance. And so as part of this deal, in writing, it was agreed upon that, you know, Hamas might need a little more extra time to do what they are agreeing to do in returning all of the hostages, including the remains of the deceased.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Families of deceased hostages, though, who are supposed to be returned to Israel as part of President Trump's 20 point plan for peace, said that they were angered that only four, and you're right, Jenk, four of the 28 bodies had been returned. And the hostages families forum, which is an advocacy group for the hostages and the hostage families, of course, called the failure to hand over all the bodies a violation of the agreement and called for the immediate suspension of all agreement implementation until all the remaining bodies are returned to Israel. Now that's pretty disastrous, but I think that's the first piece of evidence we can point to when we say that the protests about ending the war wasn't really about the plight of the Palestinian people. really about releasing all the hostages. What happens to the Palestinians, I don't think, you know, the hostage families really care too much about, but whatever, putting that aside, a spokesperson for the forum later said that it wasn't calling for a return to fighting, but for Hamas to be held accountable to meet its obligations as part of the agreement. But they are so far meeting the obligations as part of their agreement. As Jeremy Scahill reports, during Gaza negotiations, Israel understood it would take time to recover all bodies of deceased
Starting point is 00:26:32 captives, a specific mechanism for recovering the bodies was agreed. Now Israel is pretending that didn't happen so it can violate the deal and cut the agreed aid shipments in half. And in fact, that is what is happening. Israel had initially agreed to allow 600 aid trucks into the Gaza Strip. Now they're saying, okay, well, since Hamas hasn't allegedly hasn't fulfilled its promise, which again, they are trying to find the remains of the hostages, and they are actually following through with the agreement based on what's in writing, we're going to go ahead and do collective punishment and severely limit the aid that enters the Gaza Strip. And so that's what we're dealing with now. Red Cross spokesperson,
Starting point is 00:27:19 Christian Cardin or Cardone, told reporters in Geneva that not all entry points are open to get humanitarian aid inside Gaza. And that's the main issue right. now and that's what humanitarians, including the ICRC, have been calling for in the last hours, is making sure that because of the huge needs, all entry points can be open. We are still witnessing only a few trucks coming in and large crowds approaching these trucks in a way that does not absolutely, that does absolutely not conform to humanitarian standards. And the coordinator of government activities in the territories, COGAT, the Israeli military body overseeing aid said the restrictions were being imposed because, quote, Hamas violated the agreement.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Again, they didn't. You can read the agreement yourselves regarding the release of the bodies of the hostages. No fuel or gas will be permitted except for specific humanitarian infrastructure needs. The note added. And if you guys can also remember, Jenk, yesterday we were talking about how as soon as the bombing stopped, Palestinians started looking for the remains of their family members under the rubble, but it's really hard to do it because they don't have the heavy machine. necessary to get through, you know, heavy rubble.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And so they're using pickaxes, they're making do with what they have, they're using their bare hands. But if in fact you have the remains of hostages buried under the rubble, I mean, Israel can help by allowing the heavy machinery into the territory so they can, you know, get through the rubble and find the remains of, yes, the Israeli hostages, but also innocent Palestinians who have been trapped under the rubble for who knows how long. Yeah, so it's funny you were saying that right as one of our members wrote in, Impeach for Peace said, we won't provide you with equipment to remove the rubble, but you broke the peace deal by not giving us hostages buried under the rubble. But how are we supposed to get them, right? So it's a great point by one of our members. Embedded dude, another member on t.com said one dead Israeli hostage is worth 10,000 Palestinian people.
Starting point is 00:29:22 When it comes to American media, I think that that is literally true. We're gonna talk about that in a second. And last member, and we do the show together with our members. So sign up now if you can, hit the join button below, et cetera. Wang Jun said, Israel violating the ceasefire is the biggest, we told you so since the last time Israel violated a ceasefire. So now let me break you down a little bit further. So there was 20 hostages that remained alive, 28 that were dead, right? So they returned the 20 that are alive.
Starting point is 00:29:50 That's the most important thing. And I'm thrilled that those guys are back. We covered on the show yesterday. the moms, dads, girlfriends, wives in tears and super understandable and thank God they're back. The dead are important to their family members. I understand that. So they have 28 left. They returned four initially. They're returning for tonight. So there's 20 left that are dead. But Hamas already explained to Israel and the other people who have on the peace negotiations that they don't necessarily have them. And they need to
Starting point is 00:30:24 them. In fact, I'm going to add on to what Anna said with a part I found from the Wall Street Journal. But you have to understand something, and this is important. These pieces of information are buried in mainstream media articles like the deceased are buried under the rubble in Gaza. So I read half a dozen articles before I found this information on the fifth page of a Wall Street Journal article, okay? So they say, quote, Hamas had communicated to mediators. that it didn't know where all the bodies were. And the two sides agreed to set up an international task force to search for the remaining bodies.
Starting point is 00:31:05 So Hamas has definitively not broken the deal. Now did you see that on cable news? Did you see that as a headline anywhere? No, what I have read and seen all over mainstream media is, Hamas breaks the deal. They had it coming. Hamas breaks the deal. Hamas breaks the deal. You're lying, you're literally lying, or your ignorant buffoons who are actors reading
Starting point is 00:31:30 a script that your producer wrote for you and your producer is lying. You ignorant buffoons, this is important. Get it right for the first time in your lives. But nope, they're all going to lie on behalf of Israel. And then when we say, hey, it looks like you're working for Israel, they're like, how dare you, you anti-Semite? Of course we're going to lie on behalf of Israel. Well, then you're not news, and go, by the way, I say go to Israel, but I say go to Israel,
Starting point is 00:31:53 But Israel has way better press than we have here. Israeli press holds the Israeli government accountable way more than American press does. So now we get to how Israel is violated a deal. So look, guys, I thought it was 53% because that's what I was reading in the past. Now they're clarifying, no, Israel currently occupies 58% of Gaza. So they already stole more than half of Gaza. They're never going to give it back. They're never going to withdraw everyone who isn't stupid.
Starting point is 00:32:23 It knows that or ignorant, right? To be fair, most are in the ignorant category and if you're accidentally ignorant because you watch cable news or you read the New York Times, I don't blame you, right? They're just purposely lying to you over and over and over again on behalf of their beloved Israel. So they already stole all that land and if I'm wrong and they withdraw completely, oh my God, of course I'll come out and tell you, you know why? Because I'm in the news business where we actually report things, whether it's favorable
Starting point is 00:32:49 or unfavorable to our point of view, unlike the mainstream media who hide for facts from you. All right. So in this case, they say the five unarmed Palestinians approached the yellow line. So you have begun to approach the area of Gaza we stole from you earlier by murdering your family members. That's it. Kill them all. Because we told you they were never going to stop killing. And because the American government keeps writing them checks. Oh, you murdered more Palestinians. You violated Trump's ceasefire. Who cares? Right. Write him another check, write them another check. And American media, oh, Israel, Israel, the Palestinian dirty savages, right?
Starting point is 00:33:31 I'm so sick of our disgustingly racist media that constantly smearing Palestinians. And of course, Israel cut all the eight and half, as Anna told you. So they're back to murdering, they're back to starving day one. We told you, this government of Israel is a terrorist government. They're never going to stop murdering the Palestinians. They're never going to stop stealing their land and trying to create greater Israel. And they say it, they say they want greater Israel, and that includes Gaza as the West Bank. The only reason why that's not crystal clear to everyone in America is because the American media absolutely refuses to tell you what the Israeli government officials actually say.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Like, for example, did you read everywhere? Did you see on cable news that Nanyahu said in Hebrew, as we reported yesterday? Oh, the campaign's not over. He has no intention of listening to Trump's peace plan. None, zero. He said it. He said he's on a spiritual and historical mission to capture greater Israel, which includes Gaza and the West Bank. But the American media will lie on behalf of Netanyahu 2,000 times over and do their stupid propaganda as they go back to their genocide immediately. Well, let's move on to the release of prisoners,
Starting point is 00:35:07 the release of hostages, Jewish hostages, in fact, in Israel. This story blew my mind. It gives you a sense of how this really has nothing to do with Jewish people. because even when it comes to Jewish reporters, if they don't fall in line, they've got to deal with the wrath of the Israeli government. Let's get right to it. This is Novi Shachnal, released along with my colleagues from unlawful Israeli imprisonment earlier this morning reporting for drop site news. I was hung from the metal shackles on my wrists and ankles and beaten in the stomach, back, face, ear, and skull. That was Jewish journalist Noah Schnall, who in fact is a photo journalist who reported on the ground from Gaza,
Starting point is 00:35:56 from the Gaza Freedom Flotilla Coalition for drop site news. And she is now revealing the brutal treatment she experienced while she was in Israeli detention. Now again, I want to reiterate, she herself is Jewish. And there are many Jews, not just in Israel, not just in the United States, but all across the world who have been protesting against the Israeli government and the way that they've been operating in Gaza, the war crimes they've been committing in Gaza and the West Bank, by the way. Now, she was born in America and is of Yemeni descent. And she was aboard the conscience boat, joined by other journalists and medics who were headed to Gaza in an attempt to break the humanitarian aid blockade and deliver humanitarian aid. Now, Israeli forces boarded and then commandeered their ship while they were in international waters.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And in total, Israel detained 145 activists who took part in the Freedom Flotilla Coalition, which set sail shortly after the global smooth flotilla. Now she says, Noah says, the Israeli's treatment of the detainees began right when they arrived at the port. And I want to give you a warning before we go to the next video. you're going to hear descriptions of sexual violence. So I just want to give you that warning. So with that said, let's take a look. The brutality began immediately.
Starting point is 00:37:25 We were taken through multiple levels of administration and the first of many strip searches. At least one woman has reported being physically penetrated by guards who laughed at her pain. Many flotilla members reported watching their valuables being looted by guards during bag searches.
Starting point is 00:37:42 All of us had our hands of violence, silently shoved towards the ground and arms held in stress positions behind us, many with zip ties, and were led through processing and sorted into groups of men and women, then blindfolded. So look, we've got a lot of other video to get to, and I think everything she had to say is important, so I really want to draw attention to it. But I'm going to get your comments in a second, Jank. Before I do, I want to go to the first graphic here that shows you a before and after to kind of give you a sense of what she looked like before detainment and what she looks like now that she's been released. And that before detainment is not when she was in L.A. or anything. No, that was when she was
Starting point is 00:38:24 on the ship. So she looked like a normal person. And then they beat the crap out of her in Israel. So, you know, Israel claims that they are the Jewish state and they represent Jews across the world. And if you're like a pedophile, they'll take you in. We did a story about that before. You just say, I'm Jewish and some by the way some people aren't even Jewish they just claim to convert to Judaism and then Israel says right of return boom and they take them in and by the way there's good Jewish groups in Israel fighting against that because they're like then they come and rape our children what the why are we letting these pedophiles in right but Israel doesn't care about anything but the
Starting point is 00:39:02 nationality of Israel so when it comes to Jews no they target Jewish Americans all the time if you're for the peace movement they put together a list of self-hating Jews and they attack them more viciously than they even attack non-Jews. Arab Jews, they have a different problem with. I mean, this is complicated, and I don't really care about the when people converted and et cetera, but there's this thing about how Arab Jews are more authentically Jewish because they have been Jewish throughout the entire time, et cetera. Now, I don't believe any of that.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I don't care if you call yourself Jewish, you're Jewish, and it's not my business, right? But for some reason, that bothers some people inside Israel, obviously tons of people inside Israel, or also Arab Jews. So it's complicated. But so she's an Arab Jew and they're like, oh, you're Jewish and we let everybody in who's Jewish and we pretend that we're all for Jews. Oh, but you don't like the nation state of Israel? Kick the crap out of her.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Who cares that she's Jewish? Hang her from the metal shackles, beat her and torture her, etc. They don't care. Let me just let me, let's be very, very clear here. There's no evidence that she dislikes the nation. state of Israel. There is evidence that she wanted to do reporting on what the current Israeli government is up to. She was on that, you know, flotilla specifically to report on the flotilla for drop site news. And so, look, we are, and I am deeply critical of our government at times,
Starting point is 00:40:34 right? Whether, I mean, I was very critical of our government when Biden was president. I'm I'm critical of our government with the Trump administration. It doesn't mean I hate America. I love this country so much. Being critical of a government does not make you hate a country. Being critical of a government doesn't mean you hate all the people in said country. So it's the fact that maybe her reporting is not to the Israeli government's liking. The fact that she was on that flotilla to do reporting on the humanitarian aid blockade and
Starting point is 00:41:05 the fact that they're trying to, their activists are trying to break that scene. is what the Israeli government didn't like. But again, I just want to reiterate, you know, the treatment of detainees, including Jewish journalists, is obviously, it's an abomination, it's disgusting. Imagine the way the Palestinian detainees, the vast majority of whom were never charged with anything as they were being detained. They were hostages themselves. Imagine how they were treated, right?
Starting point is 00:41:37 We've done the stories about the Israeli prison guards caught on camera, sexually assaulting the detainees. So these stories are real, and it's really important to draw attention to it, especially as the Israeli government boasts about how they're the only democracy in the Middle East. Let's go to the next video. In this clip, she talks about how things got worse once the people who were detained by Israel arrived at the Ketsiyat prison. where she says that she was targeted and subjected to the guards' brutality. According to Noah, she and other detainees were given dirty blankets and thin mattresses on the floor. And here she is describing more of the abuse that she and the others who were detained by Israel experienced. Any flotilla member who upset the Israeli guards was subjected to twisted and tightened handcuffs and some received beatings. I was hung from the metal shackles on my wrists and ankles and beaten in the stomach, back, face, ear, and skull by a group of men and women guards, one of whom sat on my neck and face blocking my airways.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Many comrades, understandably, do not want their identity made public when recounting this treatment. During the evening, the men were tormented by guards with attack dogs and guns. The women were threatened with pepper spray. Our cell was awoken with threats of rape. The allegation that the detainees were threatened with acts of rape is very similar to what we've heard in the past from Palestinian detainees. And she also describes how early on in their detention, some of the detainees were brought to a trailer at the prison. And they were sat before a judge who asked if they would accept voluntary deportation in return for acknowledging what they called illegal entry into Israeli territory. Now remember, they were
Starting point is 00:43:35 detained in international waters, not Israeli territory. So they were being pressured to admit to something that they had not done. Now, to be fair, they were trying to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza. So had they been detained once they got to, you know, that area, maybe you can make that argument, but that's just not the case since they were detained in international waters. But let me just note, she was kicked out of that meeting before the judge because she was translating the events into English for the American detainees. After a few days at the prison, she and some other flotilla members were transferred to a second prison where the brutality continued. Take a look.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I was taken into solitary, as was one other woman and a few of the men. No one was allowed to see their lawyers after Ashdud Port. When I demanded one of the One of the headguards raised his walkie-talkie to my face as if to strike and taunted in Hebrew. Say it again. So, I mean, look, I think that this type of testimony is really, really important. I hate that this happened to her and the other detainees. In response to Noah's story reporter and founder of Dropsite News, Ryan Grimm, also friend of the show, says that the state of Israel claims to be a safe haven for Jews. But in Noah's case, she was taken there against her will and brutalized. And in fact, Jewish American activist David Adler, who was part of the global Samud flotilla, said that Israeli forces singled out Jewish activists on board for humiliation. After interception, we were violently forced onto our knees into positions of submission where the two Jews of the flotilla were taken by the ear and ripped from the group for a photo op with Israeli security minister.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Itimar Ben-Gavir, staring at the flag of the state of Israel, taunted by his goons. Jank. I think a lot of Jewish Americans have no idea what's happened in Israel. They think, oh, yeah, it's the lovely kibbutz and all this stuff. No, we've lost the majority of Israel to this, like, nationalistic cult. So every story out of a detention center from Israel is just horrific. With no regard for humanity at all, they look just like the Germans that abused Jewish people in the 1940s.
Starting point is 00:46:03 And unfortunately, that idea, that fascist idea moves from country to country to country. It has nothing to do with the Germans or certainly not the Jews or any other country that has unfortunately faced fascism. It isn't the ethnicity, guys. It's humanity. Unfortunately, humanity has this inside of us. And a certain power dynamic releases that, okay? And so the power dynamic is usually absolute power. Once someone has, or a country has absolute power, their chance of abusing it is absolute. Do you know that old saying?
Starting point is 00:46:39 And it's absolutely true. And you see it with Israel. We have enabled them. We have aided and abetted them. And that has caused them to go totally out of control and help to push them in a fascist direction. So here we are fighting for Jewish Americans, Jews across the world. There's another story later in the show today about now the head of Palantir is calling a Jewish guy the Antichrist, but he's okay.
Starting point is 00:47:05 You could abuse Jewish people, you could torture them, you could put them on a list to get him fired, canceled, et cetera, and no one gives a damn. It's only if you criticize or accurately report on the government of Israel that the pro-Israel goons and thugs show up. Anti-Semi, anti-Semi-terrorist, terrorists, arrest them, deport them. I'm sick of the thugs, okay? I can't stand them anymore. And do they give a ton of money to our politicians?
Starting point is 00:47:34 Yes, they definitely do. Isn't Jewish Americans overall? No, the great majority of Jewish Americans do not contribute to politics. But are there pro-Israel zealots in this country who have forgotten anything about Judaism and don't really care about it? All they care is they're blinded by Israel. It's become a mania for them. And it's to the point where they're willing to abuse or look the other way as Israel abuses
Starting point is 00:48:00 Jewish people because beloved Israel above all, I mean, Israel first doesn't begin to describe it. I think those folks have lost their minds. I think they have no idea what's happening inside Israel. They live in a fair tale version of Israel. Right now you go to ask Israelis, should you keep slaughtering Palestinians? Unfortunately, a majority say yes, we haven't slaughtered it off. Kill them more.
Starting point is 00:48:25 It's not as the 82% number that you've seen in that poll. I checked that into that that poll is a little bit questionable, but it is still over 50%. And that's a devastating number. We've lost that culture in that country. And the way to help not just the Palestinians, but Israel, is to stop enabling their worst instincts. Stop giving them money when they say, hey, I haven't murdered enough Palestinians. I haven't abused enough Jewish people.
Starting point is 00:48:56 I haven't insulted the whole world. And if I haven't invaded and attacked enough of my neighbors, even though I've done it seven times. It's our fault here in America, not the citizens. We're trying our best. Our government is so unbelievably corrupt. Corrupted by the pro-Israel zealots, we're like, no, you serve Israel. Otherwise, we're going to spend $20 million and eliminate you from Congress. Tell me you didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:49:21 That's what happened to Javall Bowman. That's what happened to Andy Levin, a Jewish representative from Michigan. They're like, he said Tuesday solution. That's it. That's the official American policy. They're like, get rid of them. Okay, why he's from a legendary Jewish family in Michigan? No, they don't care about Judaism.
Starting point is 00:49:38 They don't care about the anti-Semitism. All they care about is thugs for Israel. If you're going to be a thug and you're going to try to intimidate and bully anyone and make everyone bow their head to Israel. Well, we're not bowing our head. We're not going to do it. And so, no, we're going to stand with Christians, Muslims, Jews, atheists, everyone across the world. And it is the entire planet now saying, will you stop murdering the Palestinians for Christ's sake? For anyone's sake.
Starting point is 00:50:08 And get the hell out of Gaza and get the hell out of the occupied territories. You want to save haven for Jews, that would be beautiful. Go back to your 1967 borders. Let's get two free and safe countries. We keep saying it. We want a safe and free Israel, but also a safe and free Palestine. They go, no, only us. We're going to get greater Israel.
Starting point is 00:50:30 We're going to crush the Palestinians. Well, then you're genocidal freaks. And it's our job to report that news. And it is news. So I don't care how many pro-Israel thugs come after us. They're dead wrong and we'll fight him to the end. All right. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Thank you for gifting five memberships on YouTube. You're a rock star brother. We appreciate you. Anna, what's next? All right, let's talk a little bit about Ukraine because there have been some developments in regard to U.S. foreign policy that definitely has me very concerned. I'm curious what you all think, though. So let's get to the details.
Starting point is 00:51:33 It's an extreme escalatory phase, three and a half plus years. And as you know, Trump says he's strongly considering giving him long-range Tomahawk cruise missiles. And Russia has said that that escalates into direct war. And they're basically calling it World War 4. The CIA called the Cold War, World War III. So we are really in with all the ingredients we have with China, the North Korean troops being in Ukraine, all the different proxy countries involved. This is really is a new world war. The only question is, will it continue to escalate?
Starting point is 00:52:06 It isn't every day where I can say that I agree with Alex Jones. But what you just heard him say in regard to the escalatory measures that the Trump administration is engaging in and considering doing more of is true. And we should be worried about it. Now, two things can be true at the same time. Trump can be pursuing escalation, which is not good. At the same time, Russia has rejected efforts to take a seat at the table and in good faith, negotiate. an end to this war. Now, Tucker Carlson agreed with Alex Jones's take on the Tomahawk missiles. These are long-range missiles while making it very clear that he does not like Vladimir Zelensky at all. I think that's been clear since the almost beginning of this Russian invasion into Ukraine. Trump, on the other hand, has pulled, I think it's safe to say, a complete 180 on Zelensky and has been very supportive of the Ukrainian president while also being critical of Putin. So we'll get to more on that later.
Starting point is 00:53:12 But first, here's more from the discussion that Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones had. Why would the U.S. government continue to recognize Zelensky, who's an unelected dictator, who's worked for years to destroy Christianity in Ukraine, which is a Christian country and has always been? Why would he be invited to the White House this week? I don't understand. He does not have a democratic mandate. He's not an elected leader. he's a murderer.
Starting point is 00:53:41 They've sold our weapons to some of the worst terror groups in the world and we're treating him like he's ahead of state. Like, why are we doing that? And just what, a few weeks ago, three weeks ago, he was back at the White House and Trump then posted through social. And I love Trump overall, but Trump started doing a 180%
Starting point is 00:53:57 we need to get out of this and saying, well, we're out of it, but we'll sell whatever weapons of Europe you want. And I feel like Ukraine's going to win and maybe not just get back its territory, but get more territory, meaning Russia, which is an extremely provocative and escalatory statement to Russia. So I wanted to fact-check one thing that Tucker Carlson said because I didn't know if Ukraine is a Christian nation,
Starting point is 00:54:20 but it turns out yes, 72% of the population identified as orthodox, as identified with the Orthodox Church, but whatever, that's an irrelevant point to this conversation. Everything else they said, I think, is interesting and worthy of a discussion. What do you make of it, Jank? Because I honestly largely agree, look, at the end of the day, Russia is a nuclear power. And you don't want the United States in a direct war with Russia, but we're certainly getting closer to that, especially as, you know, U.S. military intelligence is going to be shared with Ukraine to do military operations on Russian soil,
Starting point is 00:55:00 specifically to target their energy infrastructure. I think that's already entering incredibly dangerous territory, but what do you make of it? Yeah, so this one's super complicated. So I'm not sure I'm in favor of sending the Tomahawk missiles, and the Russians have made very serious threats about that, which we'll get to in a minute. But you've got to give Trump credit on one thing. Apparently he's not working for the Russians. You know, look, I'll be honest, I was worried about that. And not because of the collusion in 2016, that, you know, we settled that a long, long time ago. But because he kept him and his sons kept talking about money from Russia, he was acting
Starting point is 00:55:38 so deferential to Russia. But here he is saying I might give the Ukrainians Tomahawk missiles to strike deep inside of Russia. If you were owned by Russia, you definitely would not say that. And you would not do that and you would not threaten that. So that seems settled now. And you have to go to where the facts are. You can't just go, okay, I don't like Trump or I.
Starting point is 00:56:00 I don't like Republicans, et cetera, follow the facts, and they'll lead you to the right place. We're in the news business. So at this point, it's pretty obvious that Trump is not controlled by Russia. Am I a little surprised by that? Yeah, I am. Okay, but those are the facts on the ground. Okay, now we turn to what should we do? Well, Anna, something really strange happened when I posted about this in social media.
Starting point is 00:56:22 So you know my account is followed by lots of different folks, a bunch of MAGA, some extreme left, some normal. our viewers who are left in independence, et cetera. But I'm also followed by a squadron of Israeli bots and trolls, right? So I post about, hey, it turns out Trump not owned by the Russians, okay, I'm not sure how I feel about Tomah, et cetera, right? And they all have the same talking point. You anti-Semite, I'm like, wait, what do we, what does that have to do with Russia and Ukraine? That's already weird.
Starting point is 00:56:58 But maybe they just ate me and they're using. They're like, oh, no wonder you love Russia, you anti-Semite. I'm like, no wonder I love Russia. I've told Putin to F off. We did a shirt where about the, you know, go F yourself Russian boat or whatever. You remember that? No, no, I was, Russians invaded Ukraine. I'm for peace.
Starting point is 00:57:19 So I'm against the people. No, I'm calling it. I'm calling it. I'm calling it. Man, they're so good at telling on themselves. Russia is Iran's ally. Bingo. A weakened Russia by dragging on, by the way, I mean, at this point, Russia wants to continue the war, so I want to be clear about it.
Starting point is 00:57:37 But there was a period of time in 2022 when Russia was kind of backed into a corner because they didn't expect the fight that the Ukrainians would put up. And so they were more open in 2022 to a peace deal. But if you guys can remember, Boris Johnson met with Vladimir Zelensky and discouraged him from engaging in a peace deal. And the main motivation for the United States and the West was, well, we want to weaken Russia. But why? Like, why do we want a week in Russia? Like, I don't see Russia as a threat to our national security. Like, what, and when did we suddenly decide we're enemies with Russia? Well, is it because Russia is an ally to Iran? And if you have a strong military capability with Russia, it's going to be a little more complicated if you engage in a regime change war in Iran, right? So Anna, no, no, you nailed it because the part I was getting to is they said, of course
Starting point is 00:58:33 you love Russia, you anti-Semite, and of course you love Iran. I knew it. I was like Iran. That's amazing. What is Iran have to do with Russia and Ukraine, right? And remember, it's not just one, multiple accounts because they all use the same talking points, are all like, oh, you're in favor of Iran and Russia, et cetera, because they're not, they don't pay attention to the show, they're not paying attention to anything.
Starting point is 00:58:55 They're just doing talking points because they're bob. right or trolls. So no Israel wants to weaken Russia because Russia was helping Iran and by the way Syria and without with Russia distracted in Ukraine Assad had no protection and again Asan's a bad guy and I'm not in favor of Russia invading Ukraine because I don't have Israeli Israeli idas a thing I just made up where you could only think about Israel so for them they're like oh must destroy Russia they They are helping Iran and Syria must destroy them, right? Whereas I'm like, look, I judge things one by one.
Starting point is 00:59:31 I didn't even know that Russia had anything to do with Israel. I mean, I get that they were allies with Iran and Syria, and we've talked about that on the show before, but I didn't think that that necessarily affected the Russia-Ukraine conflict, and certainly not to this degree, but it appears that the Israeli lobby is driving America to stay in that war as long as possible to weaken Russia so they can't help their regional allies and and Israel did in fact topple aside along with Turkey by the way and and then Turkey took northern parts of northern Syria and Israel took parts of western Syria you would know that if we had real media in this country but our national
Starting point is 01:00:10 media never talks about that and they never talk about this alliance and so it turns out yes the Israeli lobby has been driving us to stay in this war there are few stories that enraged me more than the laundering of al-Qaeda in Syria right now, the warm embrace of a former al-Qaeda leader, who's now the leader of Syria, as he came to the United States to be part of the UN General Assembly in New York City just recently. Like, how are people not infuriated by this? Because, look, you're right, Bashar al-Assad was horrible in a lot of ways. But he was also a secular dictator, if that makes any sense.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Meaning, you know, Syria is pretty diverse in terms of religious belief, religious practices. And so part of the reason why you're seeing the internal wars breaking out within Syria between factions is due to the treatment of the Druze, due to the treatment of Christians, it's a complete and utter disaster. So the situation on the ground in Syria is unstable to say the least. But in terms of my personal feelings about the whole matter, Al-Qaeda attacked us on 9-11. I don't care if you're now trying to rebrand yourself. Oh, I was an extremist al-Qaeda member who was trying to kill Americans earlier. But I've changed my mind. I'm different now.
Starting point is 01:01:43 No, no, I don't care. But this guy's now invited to the United States. He's freaking step foot on U.S. soil. It is, anyway, it makes me really angry. All right, let's move on. Now, Zelensky does plan to visit the White House this Friday. And according to the financial times, he and Trump will be discussing how to get Putin to the negotiating table. And in Trump's mind, threatening Russia by giving Ukraine long-range missiles, Tomahawk missiles, is what might get Putin to the negotiating table.
Starting point is 01:02:17 But I don't think Putin is going to respond well to a threat like that. Ukraine, by the way, has wanted Tomahawk missiles since the beginning of the war. And the U.S. government hasn't given it to them because, again, we're dealing with Russia, which is a nuclear power. And for reference, Tomahawks have a range of up to 1,500 miles, long-range weapons that the Biden administration allowed Ukraine to use only had a range of 190 miles. And if the Ukrainian military had Tomahawk missiles at their disposal, they could strike, you know, Russian territory. And here's what Trump had to say about the issue just yesterday. They'd like to have Tomahawks, let's step up. They'd like to have Tomahawks.
Starting point is 01:03:03 We talked about that. And so we'll see. Well, I don't know. I might have to speak to Russia, to be honest with you about Tomahawks. Do they want to have Tomahawks going in their direction? think so i think i might speak to russia about that in all fairness i told that to president zolinski because tomahawks are a new step of aggression i might say look if this war's not going to get settled i'm going to send them tomahawks i may said that the tomahawk is an
Starting point is 01:03:33 incredible weapon very offensive weapon and honestly russia does not need that they don't need that yeah i may tell them that if the war is not settled that we may maybe very well. We may not, but we may do it. I really think that President Putin would look great if he got this settled. And I think he's going to settle it, but we're going to see. And if he doesn't, it's not going to be good for him. Well, a spokesperson for the Kremlin stated that Tomahawks were a topic of extreme concern. And yesterday, former Russian President Dimitri Medvedev wrote that it is impossible to tell the difference between a conventional Tomahawk missile and Tomahawk missile with a nuclear warhead attached. Medvedev signaled Russia's response could
Starting point is 01:04:22 be nuclear if Ukraine gets and fires Tomahawk missiles deep inside Russia. Now, obviously, that's a threat that should be taken seriously. However, a caveat or a counter argument is that since the beginning of this war, there have been multiple instances in which the Russian government has threatened using their nukes, and obviously they haven't. That being said, This isn't something to joke around about and those threats should be taken seriously, nonetheless. At least that's my take, Jenk. Yeah, so Trump is threatening the Russians, and this is part of how he negotiates. I don't mind that so much. And he got some sort of deal in Gaza. I mean, we knew the Israelis wouldn't abide by it, but at least got the hostages back
Starting point is 01:05:07 and on a road to peace. He's trying to get to peace in Ukraine and Russia. I'm worried about the Tomahawk missiles and how you can't tell if they're nukes or not. And even if you could tell, the Russians could use it as an excuse. And so, you know, just because you're, like, for example, I see the Israeli lobbies effect on this war now. And it makes me want to get out of the war because it turns out it's just another thing we're doing for Israel. On the other hand, I have great sympathy for the Ukrainian people. And, and you look, Tucker said it was a Christian nation. I don't know what that has to do with anything, right? So I would have great sympathy for them, no matter what kind of nation they were. And so look, with this thing of putting the al-Qaeda
Starting point is 01:05:56 guy in charge of Syria while the Russians were distracted in Ukraine, I agree with you completely, Anna, it's a disaster waiting to happen, right? So Saddam Hussein and Omar Qaddafi were terrible guys, but deposing them led to a giant mess. It costs us trillions of dollars, thousands of men, hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians killed in Iraq and Libya, slavery's back in Libya. In Iran, it was even worse when we did the revolution back in the 1950s, did a coup against their democratically elected government just so that our oil companies can make more money.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Well, we set them on a track to be taken over by Islamic fundamentalists. And so this constant, like, messing around with other countries, and yes, by the way, Iran, as far as I know, didn't have anything to do with Israel back in the 1950s, But did we, did we attack Iraq partly because Israel wanted us to? Yes, Israel said they were their number one enemy. Iraq, Saddam Hussein, as terrible as he was, used to fight against al-Qaeda. And he would ruthlessly kill any al-Qaeda that was inside Iraq.
Starting point is 01:06:58 And al-Qaeda attacked us on 9-11. Why would we want to take out the enemy of our enemy? Because they were Israel's top enemy. So we had to do it, we were forced into it. And so all the, and where do we get our faulty intelligence on the weapons of mass destruction? Israel. So I'm sick of this. I'm sick of all American policy, especially foreign policy, being geared towards a different country. So I'm out, okay? I don't mind Trump doing this to try to get to a good peace deal to get as much rescue as much land in Ukraine as possible for the Ukrainians.
Starting point is 01:07:30 But then we got to wrap this up, okay? Yeah. I'm not fighting any more wars for Israel. That's it. I'm done with it. And I want to be clear. Look, I was very supportive of helping the Ukrainians defend themselves because at the end of the day, Russia did an invasion into a sovereign country to take territory. And that's wrong. But what frustrates me so much are the hidden motivating factors that ends up hurting everyone, including the very country that is supposed to be helped through our foreign policy. And of course, that's Ukraine. But it wasn't helpful when in 2022, the West discouraged Zelensky to engage in peace negotiations. And that might have been the last time that we really had a real shot at a peaceful way of ending this war.
Starting point is 01:08:19 So we'll see how this plays out. But it's super lasting. So the Russians can't tell if a Tomahawk missile is armed with a nuke or not. So we're going to risk nuclear war so that Israel can topple the Iranian government easier. Nah, no, I'm all the way out. No, let's get out of there. Let's go. No more wars for Israel, period. Right.
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