The Young Turks - Cori Bush Loses

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

"Squad" member Cori Bush loses Democratic primary in Missouri. Tim Walz burns ex-president in stirring speech: "Crime was up under Donald Trump – that’s not even counting the crimes *he* committed...." Trump criticizes Harris and Walz in a Fox News appearance and suggests a debate will happen. The Israeli minister says it may be "moral" to starve two million Gazans, but "no one in the world would let us." "Google is a Monopolist," judge rules in landmark antitrust case. HOSTS: Francesca Fiorentini (@franifio) John Iadarola (@johniadarola) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ https://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER: ☞ https://www.twitter.com/theyoungturks INSTAGRAM: ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK: ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕 Merch: https://shoptyt.com ❤ Donate: http://www.tyt.com/go 🔗 Website: https://www.tyt.com 📱App: http://www.tyt.com/app 📬 Newsletters: https://www.tyt.com/newsletters/ If you want to watch more videos from TYT, consider subscribing to other channels in our network: The Watchlist https://www.youtube.com/watchlisttyt Indisputable with Dr. Rashad Richey https://www.youtube.com/indisputabletyt The Damage Report ▶ https://www.youtube.com/thedamagereport TYT Sports ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytsports The Conversation ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytconversation Rebel HQ ▶ https://www.youtube.com/rebelhq TYT Investigates ▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. On July 18th, get excited. This is big! For the summer's biggest adventure. I think I just smurf my pants. That's a little too excited.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Sorry. Smurfs. Only theaters July 18th. Live from the Polymarket Studio in L.A. It's the Young Turks. Welcome everyone to the Young Turks. I'm Francesca Fiorentini. He is John Idarola? You hesitated briefly. That is still my name. Okay, well, welcome to a Wednesday, John. You and I, this is a lot of role reversal. Usually you're hosting. I'm a guest. We're on the damage
Starting point is 00:01:23 report, your show. But there's still news to cover. So is it okay that I'm hosting that I'm mostly okay with it. It remains to be seen if the audience will embrace you as their new leader. Okay, well, audience, stand by, stand back and standby. But also, a real quick note before we jump into all the news, if you like standup comedy. Speaking of standing up and standing back and standing by, stand up. I'm going to be in Chicago on August 19th and 20th, one for the 19th for the live bituation room, which will have special guests. to be announced. And then Tuesday, August 20th, an early show and a late show at the Lincoln Lodge. The late show is still available. Their tickets available. Early show is sold out. I'm so excited to see you Chicago. Come out. We all need a laugh. I hope to see you there. But John, we got so much to jump into. Google is a monopoly. And the right is melting down once again at the selection,
Starting point is 00:02:22 the nomination of Tim Walls as vice presidential nominee. So let's get into it first with some rough news for the progressive movement. Let's go. There is nothing that happens in my life that happens in vain. So if this happened, it's because it was meant to happen. And let me say, it's because there's the work that I need to do and let me say this. to tear your kingdom down. Representative Cory Bush, two-time Democratic incumbent of Missouri's first district, lost her primary election to St. Louis County prosecutor, Wesley Bell,
Starting point is 00:03:20 and a whole lot of donor money that was behind him, specifically $18 million, the second most expensive primary election in American history. And the first most expensive was Jamal Bowman's over in New York. Also, because of big money donations, specifically coming from one lobby in particular in that lobby, is APAC, the Israeli lobby. You can take a look at how close it was. Wesley Bell, again, about less than 7,000 votes ahead of Cory Bush. It was a tough loss. Corey Bush, obviously, again, this is her, this would have been her third term.
Starting point is 00:04:03 She is a former nurse. She has done incredible things in her time on Capitol Hill, including sleeping on the steps of Capitol Hill, actually, to protest an eviction moratorium that was going to be lifted during a global pandemic. You all remember it, COVID-19. And in the last year, she has had the moral fortitude to call for a ceasefire in Gaza and that earned her the ire of the Israeli lobby and again the amount of money that was spent against her. She was in fact one of the first Congress people to call for a ceasefire in Gaza only 10 days after October 7th along with other progressive House members. But there is a little bit more that she said from her, I believe concession speech, but really sort of redoubling of her efforts. Take a look. Pulling you away from my position and calm in form.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Come on. Come on. On the need will take some of the string of all. The street that I have to have a person, but all they did will rest of that we don't know anything to be made. All they did was radicalize me and now they need to be afraid. And those are the words of not only a former congressperson or a congressperson, but also an organizer, someone who came from the grassroots of Missouri,
Starting point is 00:05:39 someone who came up because she wanted to reform policing in that state. She wanted to do right by the people of Missouri. But again, outside groups ousted her. They dumped, according to the Intercept, $18.2 million into the race. Bell's backers outspent groups supporting Bush roughly four to one. Apex Super PAC spent $8.5 million backing Bell's campaign. Democratic majority for Israel PAC spent half a million. And major Democratic donor, Reid Hoffman's mainstream Democrats pack, spent $1.5 million in support of Bell. Put a pin in that. Apex money was spent on voter engagement efforts, phone banking, including digital and mail ads.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Again, those digital and mail ads are expensive. One of those mailers, if you all remember, was that was also reported by The Intercept included images that distorted Bush's features. APEC also helped bundle at least two-thirds of Bell's campaign all. So in other words, just like laundering, corporate and outside spending. Here is that image of her from a flyer that Apex sent. You can see on the right is an actual photo of Cory Bush. The same photo on the left is the distortion of her face. We can zoom in on that, whatever that's supposed to do, make her look weird.
Starting point is 00:06:57 I don't know. It definitely is racialized, though, and it's messed up. But there you go. That's what big money does. And John, I want to kick it to you specifically on this point of fighting back. Corey Bush is not taking this lightly. and the idea that this has radicalized her and she's coming back. Yeah, on the photo, just to start off, so I looked at it, I don't know exactly what they were going for there,
Starting point is 00:07:26 but I know that whatever it was, it was inspired by racism. That's whenever you take a black candidate and then you change their image for a commercial or a flyer, there's one reason why you're doing it. And so that's something for that graphic designer to work out of the candidate or the campaign manager. But anyway, the entire thing is disgusting, it's gross, there should be a national uproar that an organization could raise a bunch of money, much of it donated by Republicans, and they get to decide what Democrats get to have as their candidates. That's just unacceptable. It is unacceptable that you could spend that monstrous sum of money, and not just in this race, but Jamal Bowman as well, as you said, and probably others too, because they raised $100 million, which they can. They have unlimited money because they're wildly wealthy people and they get to decide what candidates you and I get to vote on. It is so sickening. And in particular in this case,
Starting point is 00:08:23 I understand that they're going and trying to take out literally anyone who showed an ounce of compassion over the past nine months or so. But what seems particularly gross about it is they hate that she called for a ceasefire, that she wanted some sort of immediate ceasefire, she wanted all that. Okay, it would be one thing if she called for, for it and it happened and then oh no, all of what, you know, the right wingers in Israeli government wanted and all of what the IDF military strategy, they didn't get it. They didn't get the thing they wanted. But that's not what happened. A couple of people who actually have some sort of moral core called for a ceasefire and we largely didn't get it for months and months and
Starting point is 00:09:04 months. So that the people who just wanted non-stop an ever growing mountain of dead civilians in Gaza got what they wanted. And now is the cherry on top of that, they're going to hunt for the heads of the people who tried and failed to save innocent lives. It's not enough that you got your mass murder, that you got your genocide. You also don't like that someone like made a fuss while you were genociding. That just seems so petty and spiteful. And I also think any of the Democrats who massively benefit in these primaries from the fact that APAC or any other massive lobby comes in and decides that they're just going to buy the entire thing, there should be massive pressure on them to distance themselves, to denounce the spending, not to accept any direct donations.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And I don't see nearly any of that, certainly not coming from the Democratic Party, which despite multiple cycles now of saying they're going to protect all their incumbents. So how dare you progressive run against them? When there's a challenge to the progressive incumbent, then suddenly they saw squirrel or something. They don't see what's happening with all the spending. No, and I think that's exactly right. And specifically, this goes out to the vote blue no matter who crowd, because the who matters and what they're fighting for absolutely matters. And so now we're saying it's okay for a foreign government to basically so fragile over their own war crimes that they're upset, as John said, over the call to stop killing. There's nothing in the ceasefire resolution
Starting point is 00:10:34 that talks about a two state solution, nothing in it that even says Palestinian human rights, nothing in it that says BDS or right of return. It simply says stop the killing. And even that is too much. And Democrats are so okay with it being any stand-in, you know, a Democrat, that they don't actually pay attention to what the things that Cory Bush was fighting for. Again, Green New Deal, Medicare for all, someone who didn't take corporate pack money, someone who fought for people who are being evicted from their homes during the pandemic. And on top of that, someone who rose to fame and power, power, I mean, through her hard work in the community, in Missouri, in the wake of the murder of Mike Brown in Ferguson.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And then of course, after that, in the 2020 George Floyd uprisings, specifically representing black Americans who are overpoliced and who feel and who are being killed while, you know, while living their lives. And I do want to mention the blue no matter who is not the case here because Wesley Bell, this prosecutor, is absolutely a far cry from the idea that you would reform the cops in any way, shape, or form. In fact, civil rights groups published a report last month criticizing Bell's office were failing to implement reforms and overseeing a steady rise in the jail population during
Starting point is 00:11:52 his time in office. Others noted that while he campaigned not on seeking the death penalty, he let death penalty cases proceed without a challenge. So those were the issues around which Cory Bush was elected and reelected, mind you. This is the right of every Missourian or of the first district to have their say. And yet they're being influenced with massive, the flyers, the advertisements, television advertisements, the radio advertisements, the stuff that money buys you to switch horses to go to somebody else who's absolutely not representing what they care about and instead is representing a foreign government. John, I think that is the biggest thing here is when
Starting point is 00:12:35 push comes to shove, we have to get campaign finance reform. We have to overturn citizens united, right? We have to, we need commitments from these Democrats. What are they doing about campaign finance reform? We're in a time when everyone's celebrating Nancy Pelosi for getting Tim Walls in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll celebrate you for half a second. But what about stocks and your refusal to have, you know, limits on what Congress people can buy and trade from the halls of power? It's ridiculous. Yeah, you're 100% right. I mean, look, in this particular race, it happens to be that APEC is the one that just gets to decide in these races. There have been races over the past couple of years where like big crypto interests have had a completely outsized
Starting point is 00:13:22 influence and maybe in two years it'll be something different. I don't know, maybe it'll be, you know, fossil gas will all of a sudden like, you know, flex its muscles or whatever. And so there might be a lot of people maybe that see this and think, well, I don't mind because I like APEC or I support, you know, not only having all of the needless deaths of civilians, but I also want everyone to be quiet about it, not make me feel bad about the fact that I support mass civilian murder. But maybe in two years it'll be an industry or an interest that, you know, you're not as big of a fan of. Like, there's a lot of really corrupt interests that would love to decide for you, which Democrats you get. And right now, they're coming for
Starting point is 00:14:00 progressives. Typically, that's the way it works. But it doesn't have to be that way. Maybe someday there could be a billionaire who supports actual progressives. And then they can start headhunting off of centrists or something like that. Anyway, it shouldn't just come down to who has the biggest billionaire on their side. Yes. Like, let's have a system where, sure, you want to raise a little bit of money from people who actually live in your district or your state, show that you have skin in the game or something like that. And then actually debate the issues, debate your life experience, your work experience, your platform. Our elections feel like they have basically nothing to do with that anymore. Absolutely. And would we tolerate this
Starting point is 00:14:37 if it were China, if it were Russia? Democrats would not hesitate in condemning, you know, Russian money. Nancy Pelosi is convinced that everyone who protests against genocide is being paid by Russia. So of course they wouldn't, you know. But only, you know, it's the Palestine exception. It's the Israel exception. And I think the last thing I'll say, I'm very heartened because, look, someone like Cory Bush could easily have a different concession speech. It could be, I recognize Israel's right to defend itself. It could be the same hashed over BS lines. It could be, you know, we have to come together. We got to reach across the aisle. We need to, it could be all that. No, I'm going to take your kingdom down and everyone just looking to reject APEC.
Starting point is 00:15:23 There is a consortium group of awesome organizers and progressives and they're coming together to form reject APEC and it does not stop here even though, yes, the squad lost Cory Bush. Day night on Wednesday Out on the town on Thursday Quiet night in on Friday It's good to have a routine And it's good for your eyes too Because with regular comprehensive eye exams at Specsavers
Starting point is 00:16:04 You'll know just how healthy they are Visit Spexsavers.cavers.cai to book your next eye exam I exams provided by independent optometrists But let's move on into our next, a big old chunk, because it's a big old announcement. Mr. Tim Walls, let's go. And make no mistake, violent crime was up under Donald Trump. That's not even counting the crimes he committed. I was waiting for it. He did it. He landed it, made it seem effortless. Like there wasn't a joke coming, but there was.
Starting point is 00:16:58 That was Governor Tim Walls in Minnesota, making his debut as Kamala Harris' running mate at that packed rally in Philadelphia. He spoke for 20 minutes, and he hit Trump pretty hard. And apparently that's the strategy with Walls that we'll get into in a little bit. He also shredded J.D. Vance, which is honestly easy to do. The guy does it for himself. But there was, that was a little bit of this longer sort of screed against Donald Trump, which honestly, it just feels so good to hear, but take a look. Sees the world a little differently than us. First of all, he doesn't know the first thing about service. He doesn't have time for it because he's too busy serving himself.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Again and again and again, Trump weakens our economy to strengthen his own hand. He mocks our laws. He sows chaos and division, and that's to say nothing of his record as president. He froze in the face of the COVID crisis. He drove our economy into the ground and make no mistake, violent crime was up under Donald Trump. That's not even counting the crimes he committed. So that was the full take. down of Donald Trump. And he also sort of contrasted his Midwestern values with Donald Trump's
Starting point is 00:18:50 values, with the Mar-a-Lago values. Take a look. I was born in West Point, Nebraska. I lived in Butte, a small town of 400, where community was a way of life. Growing up, I spent the summers working on the family farm. My mom and dad taught us. Show generosity towards your neighbors and work for a common good. Minnesota's strengths comes from our values, our commitment to working together, to seeing past our differences, to always being willing to lend a helping hand.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Those are the same values I learned on the family farm and tried to instill in my students. I took it to Congress and to the state capital, and now Vice President Harris and I are running to take those very values to the White House. Farm values. John, we got we got more but what do you what do you make of these farm values and also I thought there was a line that I feel like you would have really liked which when he was attacking
Starting point is 00:19:49 Donald Trump froze in the face of a global pandemic. Yeah I think look there's a lot of people I think that coming out of the pandemic have a lot of like you know anger at the way that was handled and not just by the government not just by Trump but by the media and by most of us But it does seem very weird to me that nobody really seems to care that he just gave up. He was just like, no, we're not going to, I'm not going to do anything. Stop the testing, it's too much testing. So look, I could go on an hour long rant about that. I'm not going to, but I do think that we're, it's not 50 years ago, it should still be a big part of this. He was given a challenge and he failed. They're going to be pointing out,
Starting point is 00:20:25 by the way, Tim Walls didn't respond fast enough to the George Floyd protests or whatever, although we have some interesting evidence to counter that. But the idea is that he's he didn't act when it was necessary. Donald Trump gave up hundreds of thousands of American lives and literally no one on the right even cares. But to the way that he communicates, the way that he attacks, I love it. I love the mix of actual verifiable progressive achievements that he can point to, not just things that he's advocating for, but things that he's done. I think that he's good with the attack lines. I think that his own personal biography makes the lines just more authentic and hit better. I love the mix of humor.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I think that America is ready for the dad joke candidacy. And I just, I think it's very effective. In particular, I know, I don't think we're gonna focus much on it, but as J.D. Vance is going out there and he's doing his rallies and even doing a rally in the same city that they spoke in today, he has none of that energy, none of that, I'm told it's Riz. But anyway, he has absolutely none of that. Like there's no charisma, there's no warmth, there's no, I described him on threads as just a pile of beetles piloting a human shaped vehicle. Like there's nothing that tells you this is a
Starting point is 00:21:39 human. Whereas with walls, it's just, it's the life experience and it's the obvious fact that he cares for people. There's just a lot there that I think for people to sink their teeth into. Yeah, I mean, I'm reminded of something that Joanne Reed said. And she's been like, okay lately. We we forgive her for being so hard on Bernie. But Joanne Reed said something that I thought was like really good, which is like, Republicans are just mean. Like, and we're gonna look into the attack line that Tim Walls coined himself, but the meanness. Tim Walls doesn't seem like a mean person. He seems nice. Now apologies for how apolitical that sounds, but is it all that apolitical when Republicans want nothing more than mass deportations and for everyone to show their
Starting point is 00:22:25 genitals upon entering an elementary school? Like doesn't just nice seem like something we would like, right? And Nice takes progressive policy forms as well, like paid family leave or universal school lunches, right? Like, and breakfast. Don't forget about the breakfast. So the nice is backed up, not just by his biography, but also by the policies. And it's like, and the right is crumbling in the face of that. But specifically, and let's go to the Rolling Stone report, apparently he's going to be the attack dog on MAGA and on their weirdness, which is a term he coined, according to multiple Democratic sources and those close to Harrison on the 2024 campaign, the vice president or allies are planning to deploy walls over the next three months in the media and on campaign
Starting point is 00:23:08 trails as an omnipresent maga-trashing attack dog. Walls is set to be in the phrasing of one Harris 24 source, the campaigns go to sledgehammer against Vance and Trump from now until election day. Harrison or senior staff sources say were impressed by Wall's style of unapologetically progressive and anti-Trump messaging, as well. as well as his ability to tilt entire news cycles at the relatively late stage in the presidential election. That gave him an edge. I mean, John, I think it's really interesting that we have walls as the pick. And it seems like from the polling that it wasn't about the polling, that actually it was just kind of about his flavor, the fact that he's able to say things
Starting point is 00:23:55 And let's show it. Let's go to the weird line that he reiterated the other night at the rally. Take a look. Some of us are old enough to remember when it was Republicans who were talking about freedom. It turns out now what they meant was the government should be free to invade your doctor's office. In Minnesota, we respect our neighbors and their neighbors. personal choices that they make. Even if we wouldn't make the same choice for ourselves, there's a golden rule.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Mind your own damn business. You know it. You feel it. These guys are creepy and yes, just weird as hell. That's what you see. That's what you see. So you know what's out there. So say it with me.
Starting point is 00:24:55 We aren't going back. We aren't going back, which is the Harris line, weird, which is his line, creepy upgrade, John, that we kind of wanted from the beginning. And I really want to get the weirdos. Like, I want that chant to get going at some point. Is that not, that should be a chant. Why is that a chant? Yes. Yeah, no, 100%.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I love that they're going to wield him as a sledgehammer. And it just seems so ironic that he's going to be this, what was what seems. to be, I mean, who knows what's going to happen, but he seems like he'll be a very effective attack dog, even though at the same exact time, he's not mean. He's just effective in attacking them. Whereas JD Vance, super mean, not effective at all. Like you would think the mean thing would be the effective weapon, but it just isn't. And I just, I don't know all of the reasons that she chose walls, but I just feel like if you launch your candidacy as Harris and then you just absorb over the course of four or five days, what are people feeling, why are they excited?
Starting point is 00:25:59 Whatever you classify that like parfe of vibes and emotions as, if you want more of that, Wall seems like a great guy to go with. He seems to fit in very naturally with that. And the contrasts that are set up, I think, are super exciting. It's the weird versus the people who mind their own business. It's the creepy versus the people who don't judge you based on stuff that literally has nothing to do with their own lives. And then also, they don't really focus on this, but it's so true. Just the joy versus the people who seem like biologically incapable of it. There is nothing fun or happy or joyful about Trump. As people have pointed out, you literally cannot come up with a time in which he
Starting point is 00:26:42 has genuinely laughed. J.D. Vance has laughed and it is a bone-chilling thing to watch. Okay, it does not make me happy to see him laugh. It makes me very warm. worried. And just we have the capacity for joy and for pleasure and appreciation of art and all of this non-political stuff that I think makes a movement more appealing. Whereas they have Tucker Carlson and Jesse Waters and the clones of Ben Shapiro. They throw lines like joyless cat ladies or whatever as projection. There's nothing like mocking the homeless or whatever. Like they briefly enjoy it. You know, they get their two minute hate, but there's no lingering joy to anything having to do with the Maga movement. Absolutely. And I do think it is significant that, look, that Harris is a woman of color, she's a black woman. And when black women in the public eye go negative on someone or they become the attack dogs, we all know what happens to them. So it is no accident that it is a smiley, former coach, former teacher, white guy who gets to do the attacking. And of course,
Starting point is 00:27:46 they can't they don't have a they don't as we will see know what to say um to to fight it we have to take a break which is sad because i can't play my favorite favorite clip but we'll be right back after this Welcome back to the damage. Welcome back to the Young Turks. I'm Francesca Fiorentini. That's John Ina Rola of the damage report. I just thought it would be funny to say damage report because I've never hosted the damage report while you were also on, which is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Let's do that, actually. I could use a half day. Absolutely. Absolutely. No, this is the Young Turks. And there's so much more news to cover. The right is just melting down over the pick of Tim Walls as Kamala Harris is running. but none other than Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Apparently you think this can be easy, except for all the complaining. Take a look. Your reaction to Governor Tim Walts, joining Kamala Harris, to go against you and J.D. Vance. He's a very, very liberal man, and he's a shocking pick, and I'm thrilled. I could not be more thrilled. Really? Okay, I'm sure you've got a lot of lines prepped. against Tim Walls and all of his policies that really stand the test of time and hold up.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And you've been talking about Tim Walls for years now as a radical, right? Very liberal. So we're gonna break that open. The right is losing their minds. They don't have a good attack line on Tim Walls, just as they don't have a good attack line on Kamala Harris. What they have is that she laughs, and according to Trump, used to not be black. But the rest of Trump's interview on Fox and Friends was just as unhinged. He went very hard now on just how liberal Walls is. Take a look. He's probably about the same as Bernie Sanders. He's probably more so than Bernie Sanders. He is more so than Bernie Sanders. That's got to be your guide, Bernie Sanders, and that's not a great guide. But this is, there's never been a ticket like this. This is a
Starting point is 00:30:09 ticket that would want this country to go communist immediately, if not sooner. We want no security. We wouldn't know anything. He's very heavy into transgender. Anything transgender, he thinks is great. And he's not where the country is on anything. Mr. President, this is a shocking, let me tell you. This is a shocking pick. And I think it's very insulting to Jewish people. And I think it's very insulting to people that want security. I think it's very insulting to anything having to do with making America great again. I can never get enough of the look of impatient on the Fox and Friends host face as they listen to Donald Trump on the phone. He's very into transgender, John. Anything transgender, very into transgender.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Anything transgender, their cheeses, their furniture, he just loves the whole thing, the milieu. The whole product line of transgender, he's bought it all. Well, see, the reason that he would say something crazy like that, well, there's multiple reasons. One is that his brain is slowly becoming rice pudding and he's super low energy. He is just so very tired. And as a person who's tired, I hear it in his voice. He wants to rest. Please let him rest.
Starting point is 00:31:26 The other reason is he doesn't actually obsessively think about transgender people 24-7. Some of them do in the media. Matt Walsh, right now, I don't know where he is. He's thinking about trans people that I know for sure. Trump has to attack trans people. Oh, and I'm sure deeply transphobic if you were to ask him about it. But I don't think he's spontaneously thinking about it. So he's attacks just don't have any like verve.
Starting point is 00:31:50 They don't have any energy. He's just throwing out he likes transgender. He's like he's passionate about the racism. He's super passionate about how much he hates women. Like he can really sell those things, but for the trans people, he's just mostly playing to the crowd. And and he's just so mixed up. He doesn't know what to say about this guy. It just, again, remember, he's talking to the Foxxie
Starting point is 00:32:09 and friends audience, these people are not going to be voting for Harris anyway, so I don't know how consequential this is. Well, right, but the fact that he doesn't have a good attack line, the attack line comes from the top down, and the fact that he can't find it is bad. So here is Fox and Friends actually showing, making Trump listen to an attack line from Walls, and here's Trump's genius level response. Governor Walts said this about you that you don't understand kitchen table issues. Listen. for you or your family.
Starting point is 00:32:41 He never said at that kitchen table like the one I grew up at, wondering how we were going to pay the bills. He set his country club up in Mar-a-Lago, wondering how he can cut taxes for his rich friends. Mr. President, what's your response to that? Well, I think it's just the opposite. I think if you see the vote, those people are all voting for me,
Starting point is 00:33:02 the people that he's talking about with the kitchen table. And I was not always sitting at Mar-a-Lago either, I was sitting at lots of other places. Yes, all the people with kitchen tables like me and I was sitting in other places, Bedminster and other clubs that I own. Okay, so the other thing that's important to know, John, is that they think the Republicans have think they have maybe found an attack line when it comes to Minneapolis in 2020, right? And during the George Floyd uprisings and the fact that, yes, a police precinct was burned during that time. This is obviously when Kyle Rittenhouse killed two people in supposed self-defense. And so they think they have an attack line.
Starting point is 00:33:50 You can hear a little bit of that in in this clip from Ben Shapiro where he's trying to bring in that line. Take a look. According to Kamala Harris, the relevant stuff about Tim Walls is not. that he presided over the burning down of Minneapolis, and in his own words, abjectly failed to stop that from happening. It's not that he has praised socialism. It's that if you go back far enough, he was a high school football coach. And don't you know, he's a teacher and a high school football? He's basically Mr. Feeney, but more athletic. He's like Ed Asner, a vuncular, moderate, just one of the boys. You know, a guy who can crack a beer and can shoot a
Starting point is 00:34:25 rifle, but is also really, really in favor of gun control and transing the kids. That's basically the pitch in favor of Tim Walls. Transing the kids, there we have, big into trans, trans in the kids. There's a very unhinged Ben Shapiro trying to land an attack. And he did mention the Minneapolis burning and Trump's also followed suit. And yet, oh boy, apparently there's a phone call where Donald Trump is praising. Tim Walls during the 2020 George Floyd uprisings over his handling of the protests in Minneapolis. Because after all, Trump was president when that happened.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Take a listen. I know Governor Walz is on the phone and we spoke and I fully agree with the way he handled it the last couple of days. I asked him to do that and the whole world was laughing. Two days, three days later, I spoke to the governor, the governor's, I think on the call and he's an excellent guy. He is an excellent guy, John. Mm-hmm. I will just say, I was very excited.
Starting point is 00:35:31 to see that. And in the words of Logan Paul, after he finds out that he accidentally spread misinformation about Monte Caliph, oopsies, we found out that you actually praised Tim. Well, again, it's just it's so fake. They don't mean any of it. They don't care about it. And even if everything that they said about Tim Walls when it came to the city was true, it would be nothing. It wouldn't be a spec compared to Donald Trump's utter failure in 2020. They're being like the only reason they're focusing on it isn't because they think it represents his ability to be an effective executive. Nobody questions that. He got a billion bills passed. It's just to inspire racism. That's all it is. They want people to think about,
Starting point is 00:36:10 you know, rampaging hordes of black and brown people and the white men who don't have the courage to shut them down. That's all this is about. Well, it's all, it's definitely about racism. I just want to play one more piece of this, which is Stephen Miller, Trump's advisor, somehow continues to be. I mean, his blanket forts very intact. They moved it from the Oval Office to his home. And here he is talking about Tim Walls. And again, got an even more racist angle than you can imagine. He is the biggest booster in the whole country for unlimited refugee resettlement.
Starting point is 00:36:47 That means under the Harris Walls plan, they're going to turn the entire Midwest into Mogadishu. That's their plan, that's their policy. I don't think there's a market for that in the United States of America. going to turn the whole country into Mogadishu. That'd be very difficult. Mogadishu is the capital of Somalia. Minnesota has one of the largest Somali-American communities. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Honestly, John, I feel like that was like maybe the best attack line, which is also the most racist attack line, which we know is not really working for them. But at least it's got that anti-immigrant flare to it. But yeah, it's all clunking here. For a limited time at McDonald's, enjoy the tasty breakfast trio. Your choice of chicken or sausage McMuffin or McGrittles with a hash brown and a small iced coffee for five bucks plus tax. Available until 11 a.m. at participating McDonald's restaurants.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Price excludes flavored iced coffee and delivery. Yeah, look, they obviously would love to be able to get the election to be back about, you know, inflation and migrant crime and immigrants and all that. So maybe this helps a little bit in bringing them to that. I guess, I don't know. Stephen Miller remains for anyone other than the, like the most hardcore Maga person, a really bad messenger because you look at his face And man, we were talking about like a joyless political movement. Like it is hard to imagine a smile creeping across that snake's face. Maybe briefly like when he remembers the fact that anometriosis is a thing that gives him a little bit of pleasure to think about people suffering.
Starting point is 00:38:44 But other than that, I don't think that he's physically capable. It's a weird movement that they're a part of. But anyway, and on Ben Shapiro, like first of all, why is he so sweaty? I know that you didn't exercise. Why are you so sweaty? Is it because you're thinking about trans people again take a shower and think before you speak yeah speed speed of like speaking is not a replacement for actually making a good point but they don't they don't know how to deal with a tim walls that they have been trying to create a myth of populism on the right for a long long time and it is paper thin there is nothing there there is no substance tim walls in his experience has accomplished more than every single one of these right
Starting point is 00:39:26 wing populace has in actually delivering for working people. Yeah. Oh, 100%. And I just, I have to just play this because, you know, it's hard to have a line when your opponent has so many good ones. And here's Tim Walls at the rally in Philadelphia with just a beautiful, beautiful joke. Can we tee this up? His running mate shares his dangerous and backward agenda for this country. J.D. Vance literally, literally wrote the foreword for the architect of the project 2025 agenda. Like all regular people I grew up with in the heartland, J.D. studied at Yale, had his career funded by Silicon Valley billionaires, and then wrote a bestseller trashing that community. Come on. That's not what Middle America is.
Starting point is 00:40:26 is. And I got to tell you, I can't wait to debate the guy. That is if he's willing to get off the couch and show up. So you see what I did there. That to me was the kicker on that, John. Like, you see what I did there? Yeah, see what I did there. Yeah, you're giving a speech. We're all paying attention to you, buddy. No, no, no. But like, just in case you didn't think this was a reference to the myth that J.D. Vance sleeps with couches. See what I did? Just so funny. And I see some people who are like, this is unbecoming. If this were like, if this were a Republican, we would all say that this was defamation. And they're like, shut up. Oh, you know, there's a media article.
Starting point is 00:41:13 It's a joke. It's a joke based on a joke based on a stupid meme. Let us have some fun. But the rest of the takedown, yeah, man, he is the farthest. from a so-called hillbilly that you could ever be. He was bankrupt by Peter Thiel. He is a venture capitalist himself and now he works for them. They are his creation. They groomed him for this. And if I could make one meta point about the choice of walls that I think it's one of the reasons that I think Trump's week has been going so poorly. Like they love to stress that you have to choose the right people. It's sign of a good executive or whatever. And obviously Trump has not done that, which is why like 75% of the people that served in his cabinet are not endorsing him
Starting point is 00:41:54 for president again. And he tried to have one of them hung. But um, so Trump chose J.D. Vance. And within like 72 hours, you had a ton of Republicans being like, oh God, that was a bad choice. What are we doing here? He's wildly unpopular. And then meanwhile, she chose walls. They've raised more than $40 million in like a day and a half off of it. And everyone is super excited about it. Like they've only during the campaign had to make a couple of choices and And Harris has proven herself far more capable in that. And people were already way more excited about her candidacy than about Donald Trump. And now you've doubled down on that. This has just not been a good month since then.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Literally ever since the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, they thought that was going to be a great moment. They thought the election was won and a lot of people did. It has been all downhill from there for the right. I mean, I said it on your show, but he's got to get shot again. Got to get shit. They got to take the whole ear. Take the whole ear this time. You can give it up. You can't hear anyway. You just talk, talk, talk. You dip up, pop, pop, pop. You don't need it. You never listen. Well, I don't think you have to take the whole ear. I do think that it does have to be a more serious injury. So I'm thinking maybe Charlie Horse. I'm thinking maybe Nogi. Something a little bit more serious. You want to amp it up for the second one. Agreed. All right. Let's take our second break. There's more after this. Welcome back to the Young Turks, Francesca Fiorentini, John Ida Rola. Let's switch it up and talk about a couple of very important developments, or terrible developments, beginning with this.
Starting point is 00:43:42 If one in the world not would have to admit in a row of and in fact that's it's a lot of mousery until we're the chattuffes
Starting point is 00:43:49 of our humanitaries moumanitari not much to live today in a lot to make legitimation intermation
Starting point is 00:43:55 unloomite to the military. International legitimacy is needed for the war I'm pretty sure it's not
Starting point is 00:44:04 my guy. My guy there is a far right Israeli finance minister, Bezalal Smotrich who is arguing at a conference, the Katif Conference for National Responsibility, that starving 2 million people
Starting point is 00:44:17 in Gaza is morally justified, but sadly, they can't do it, except they are. But he ostensibly is bemoaning the fact that some very limited aid is actually getting into Gaza. And we'll talk about just how much and what it's looking like right now, you know, in the beginning of August. But his full comments, and he went on, he said, it is impossible in today's global reality to wage war. No one in the world would let us starve and thirst two million citizens, even though it may be just immoral until they return our hostages, he said, adding that if Israel controlled aid distribution instead of Hamas, put a pin in that, the war would have ended by now and the hostages would have returned. Quote, you cannot fight Hamas with one hand and give them aid with the other. It's his Hamas money. Hamas is money and it's his fuel. It's his civilian control of the Gaza Strip. It just doesn't work. He also added, no one talks about Israeli military rule of Gaza now, no need to unclog sewers, no needs for education, no need for welfare. Gaza in the next two years is going to be a war zone. You need some food, you need food, some medicine, and a minimum of sanitation, water, sewage, that's it. Okay, there's a little bit of fact. that needs to be happened, but just taking him at face value, he's saying there's going to be
Starting point is 00:45:38 no end to this war. Someone call it a genocide. You don't actually really need to do much. You need just a little bit of food, but other than that, that's it. There's a lot of claims in there that apparently they can't get away with starvation even though they want to. But also, why would they give Hamas food? Because Hamas is controlling all of the food that goes in. Not actually true, according to the aid organizations who are desperately trying to get Ghazans that food. There's a trickle of trucks that have been allowed in, according to the UN. There's only one, one crossing from other countries, either Egypt or Israel, into Gaza at the moment. It's Kareem Shalom.
Starting point is 00:46:19 The Rafa border crossing has been closed for months now. Remember, the trucks are not allowed to be full, even if they do enter the Gaza Strip. And once they are there, it is very difficult to distribute those trucks and get them, let's say, to the north of Gaza or to different areas where the aid is most needed. In fact, NPR reported three weeks ago that aid is piling up because of how unsafe it is to actually distribute it. Aid groups say that coordinating their movements with the Israeli military inside of Gaza remains a complicated and time-consuming process, sometimes requiring hours to coordinate safe access to the Gaza side of the Kerem Shalom border. Despite these efforts, Israeli airstrikes have hit aid workers on multiple occasions. We all know what happened to the World Central Kitchen workers missile, right, direct through their convoy.
Starting point is 00:47:08 No mistaking it. Before I could get to you, John, the Mercy Corps Senior Operations Manager said, this is not a logistical challenge. It's not a physical or a topographical one. It's primarily a political one. If there is a will, it will happen. So Smotrich, once again, being the worst, and I don't even know why I know all the names of these far-right Kinescent members other than the fact that they're genociding an entire population. But there's just amazing that he can say something so egregious, John, and then at the same time lie so hard about, God, but we have to comply with international law. No, they haven't been.
Starting point is 00:47:48 And they're not. Yeah, yeah, 100%. And they're not. Yeah, well I think one of the things is helping him to get away with saying such terrible things is he has realized what people like Donald Trump did, which is if you just say one, then people criticize you. But if every week you say another absolutely reprehensible inhumane thing, then eventually it just becomes, oh, that's him. That's what he does. I'm glad that you mentioned the attack on the WCC workers in a general sense. Like when you use those food trucks occasionally as bait to massacre hundreds of people. people that also seems like a violation of some sort of law. And on what he said, like we deal every day in covering the news with people who have horrid ethical failings or utterly corrupt or advocate for terrible things or psychologically broken. We deal with a lot of that. And they're truly bad people that fill our government at a variety of levels. But occasionally you hear a thing that reminds you, oh yeah, there's levels to this. There are there are monsters.
Starting point is 00:48:49 There are demons that walk among us in human form. There are people driven by pure undiluted evil that would gladly starve millions of people in pursuit of some political goal or whatever. Like the way he talked about starving Gazans, and not just the starvation, talking about what he thinks is an acceptable next two years for the region and all of that. Yep. If he had said that about starving two million dogs, everyone I think would agree that's unacceptable. I bet even he would think that that is unacceptable. But it's a reminder of what way too many people think about the civilian population of Gaza. They do not put them on the same moral level as a group of two million random dogs. They believe that there is more fundamental humanity to animals than there are to those people.
Starting point is 00:49:39 That's simply because they were born in close proximity to some terrorists, screw them. It doesn't matter if they literally starve to death. And for regular people watching this, it's unacceptable. Like you can't imagine being in that position and yet those people have a ton of power. Absolutely. And he doesn't draw a distinction obviously between Hamas and civilians. And obviously there's no distinction drawn between Hamas's political wing and its militant wing. And he's also someone who is on record saying Palestinians don't exist. He's Palestinian saying he is Palestinian. He's from Ukraine, y'all. I just want to put that out there. And again, this is the project of this country, right?
Starting point is 00:50:18 It's to say that others can immigrate there. Meanwhile, Palestinians have no right of return, and they need to be expelled, expunged, murdered, and killed. Guys, we just talked about Cory Bush losing her election, thanks to AIPAC money. And here you have a far right leader in Israel saying this war is going to continue for two more years. Tell me this issue is going away because it's not. It will not be going away.
Starting point is 00:50:42 This is a long-haul fight, and what we do in this country absolutely matters. Let's move on, though, because there's very good news, interesting news. Big tech is being broken up, maybe. Rejoice Elon and every free speech warrior out there. Take a look. Is it possible? Not unlike when Bobby Kennedy was the attorney general, that there was a Get Huffa squad there. I wonder, honestly, whether there is a Get Big Tech squad within the Justice Department.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Okay, that is somehow Jim Kramer still on television asking the assistant AG to the Justice Department's antitrust division that's canter there, about whether or not there's a get me squad against big tech. Is big tech, are they being hunted? Oh my God. And he did have an answer for that. I just want to play that if we have it. We don't bring very many antitrust actions every year. It's a small handful. And we only do so when the facts and the law supported. I spent about two weeks ago, I was out in the Bay Area and I spent time with VCs, founders from across the technology industry. And what I heard was that they overwhelmingly support our tech cases. Why? Because they want to build and invest in businesses that have the opportunity
Starting point is 00:52:10 to succeed and become durable and thrive on the on the competitive. stage. Why are we talking about this? I'm buried the lead, but that is Jonathan Cantor, and he brought a case against Google for being a monopoly and trafficking and doing anti-monopolistic or monopolistic practices under he is part of the antitrust division. And a federal judge, Judge Amit Mehta, ruled that yes, Google is a monopoly. Ha-ha, as if we couldn't all tell you that from how we search for anything on the internet. It is based on how Google runs its operation, which involves paying competitors like Apple and Mozilla billions of dollars a year for them to make Google the default search engine on their browsers. Google paid Apple
Starting point is 00:53:01 $18 billion in 2021 for it to be the default. The New York Times reported, and Judge Ameda ruled that that practice stifles competition and what you heard from Jonathan Cantor there was that actually when he goes to Silicon Valley and he talks to tech businesses, they're like, this is good because we want the ability to thrive as well. And we want actual capitalism, which necessitates real competition and means that monopolies cannot exist. Google sells ad placements also within its search engines at extremely high prices. We all know that Google has a monopoly on those ads and they overcharge for them. A judge made also ruled that Google was able to charge higher prices than should exist because of their monopolistic power.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Google can then further solidify its dominance thanks to those high prices, which in turn allows for the company to charge even higher prices on and on and on. We see this with Amazon as well. Funny enough, John, the Justice Department opened this case against Google, not under Joe Biden, but in 2020 during the Trump administration. And now that it has been successfully ruled, a monopoly, it goes to the remedy phase, which means that maybe Google's parent company, Alphabet, will have to sell off parts of Google. They might have to give up control of this market. Obviously, Google is going to be appealing the ruling. They said in a statement they plan to appeal the decision and that made his opinion recognize Google as an internet's best search engine.
Starting point is 00:54:30 An argument the company had made in court is the reason consumers preferred Google over the competition, It's not that they're a monopoly. They're the best. They're the best. There's some great things about Google or whatever. It doesn't mean that they're not a monopoly. I mean, obviously, like if virtually any company was to be able to be referred to as a monopoly, it's pretty strong.
Starting point is 00:54:53 I mean, I'm not saying that they're the only ones. Apple, they've got their hands in a lot of baskets or whatever. And by the way, a long time, I'm a big fan of John Oliver. We don't often get a chance to really feel the way he feels. But in this case, we have to criticize our business daddy because of course our platform is YouTube, one of the parts of the Google monopoly, that's how we make all of our money or whatever. But we're so to criticize them because we're consistent on our values. They control like everything and it gives them massive power to shape outcomes.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And I'm very glad that you're focusing on the payments that are made in terms of like being the default search engine. Like they have the like every bit of their monopoly gives them the resources to buttress other elements of the monopoly, it is like a self-sustaining thing. Try to conceive of other like search engines or providers breaking in. There are others. It's just basically impossible. The numbers are too large. And it's all going to come down to, as you said, the remedy phase. Like, you can do virtually nothing to change us. You could do massive stuff to change us. Until we know that, it's almost impossible to really respond to this. And God only knows what the time horizon will be on them actually making those decisions. But it is interesting that it was begun at all and that there
Starting point is 00:56:04 there could actually be changes, but it remains to be seen what they'll look like. Yeah, absolutely. And Google has admitted that another Google couldn't exist now. Like another Google would never be allowed to exist because of them, because of Google. And like chicken or the egg on whether it's the best search engine or you have a monopoly over everything, you keep data on everyone, you're able, just like Apple in terms of the iPhone, can make like their product better or more efficient because they have that monopoly and also box anyone out of the search engine game. John, just full disclosure, I'm a duck, duck, go, babe. I know it's weird and like you all think that duck, duck go is like probably,
Starting point is 00:56:45 you know, some weird QAnon thing. I know it sounds like that, but it's like doesn't track my searching and I search for like, you know, crazy things like Tim Walls being hugged by children. Those are like mostly my search terms. But like there are other search engines out there, right? So this is important. It matters, obviously, who becomes president in next year, whether it's Kamal Harris or whether it's Don Trump. Don? God, I've never called him Don. John Sr., yeah. We will see how this unfolds, but this is a massive win for people who believe in actually breaking up big tech, not just saying it, and who believe that Google has far too much market power.
Starting point is 00:57:30 But that does it for the first hour. We have a second hour with Jordan Ewell coming up, Tray soon. But John, everybody watch you, right? Monday through Fridays. You should, I mean, I guess, watch or listen or whatever. We're going live tomorrow. It's going to be great fun. There's just been amazing news all the way.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Like, it's actually a joy to do the news these days. I hope those vibes continue. Yeah, what a difference a month makes. I was like looking into like moving to a mountain town in Italy. And now I'm like, I guess I'll stay. That still sounds good, though. It does sound good. All right, we'll be right back.

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