The Young Turks - Cyclone Of Lies

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

Trump & his allies spread lies about the Biden administration’s response to Hurricane Helene. Hillary Clinton advocates for more social media censorship. Kamala Harris dodges questions about Netanya...hu defying the U.S. Concerns about the state of the country spell trouble for Harris. CBS News internal review finds their interview with Ta-Nehisi Coates did not meet editorial standards." HOST: Ana Kasparian (@anakasparian), Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ https://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER: ☞ https://www.twitter.com/theyoungturks INSTAGRAM: ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK: ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕 Merch: https://shoptyt.com ❤ Donate: http://www.tyt.com/go 🔗 Website: https://www.tyt.com 📱App: http://www.tyt.com/app 📬 Newsletters: https://www.tyt.com/newsletters/ If you want to watch more videos from TYT, consider subscribing to other channels in our network: The Watchlist https://www.youtube.com/watchlisttyt Indisputable with Dr. Rashad Richey https://www.youtube.com/indisputabletyt The Damage Report ▶ https://www.youtube.com/thedamagereport TYT Sports ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytsports The Conversation ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytconversation Rebel HQ ▶ https://www.youtube.com/rebelhq TYT Investigates ▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. All right, welcome the Young Turks, live from the Polymarket Studio in L.A., Jane Hugar, Anna Kasparan with you guys. As always, a hell of a day. So obviously it is October 7th, day of morning for folks in Israel. We're going to talk about that a little bit later. Unfortunately, the morning continues around the clock for what's happening in the Middle East overall.
Starting point is 00:01:17 We also have the hurricane. But we also have the election. And we have a lot of interesting news that cuts in both directions. I think you're going to want to hear all of it because here we go. less than a month now. And every little movement matters. And there are a lot of little movements and I'm worried about a big movement. So that sounded funny already. All right, we'll get to that later in the program, just a little bit. So make sure you check out the whole thing. All right, Anna, let's get started. Well, I actually wanted to start with this unfortunate story.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Kamala whined and dined in San Francisco and all of the people in North Carolina, no helicopters, no rescue. It's just what's happened there is very bad. They're offering them $750 to people whose homes have been washed away. Donald Trump is unfortunately airing some of the most unfortunate and vicious lies that have morphed into all sorts of conspiracy theories. regarding the federal government's response and relief efforts following the devastating hurricane Haleen. Now, for the purposes of this conversation, we're going to go through some of his allegations.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Now, he is using this tragic event as a way to kind of engage in campaigning. He has politicized it. And it has led to a lot of misunderstanding, a lot of misinformation. For instance, what you just heard there, where Trump basically alleged, that the victims of the hurricane are only getting $750. Well, that's actually false. That is not the only aid that they will be getting. In fact, Lara Trump was confronted with the facts on this while being interviewed by Dana Bash.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Let's take a quick look at that video and I'll further debunk this allegation. Why is he spreading misinformation in a crisis like that? And does that concern you about your fellow North Carolinians and how and whether they could actually get help? I am incredibly concerned in North Carolina. I hear every day from people on the ground there and they are desperate for help. Kamala Harris did come out and say it's $750 per family right now. The idea that we've spent $650 million in fiscal year 24 on the migrant crisis that Kamala Harris was responsible for stopping and by all accounts she created by having an open door
Starting point is 00:03:47 policy at our southern border is infuriating. Let me just stop you right there. Let me just stop you right there because I just want to not let this get out there. You are right that FEMA is giving $750. But that is a first step. It's for immediate needs. It's called the serious serious needs assistance. So what Dana Bash was saying there is 100% true.
Starting point is 00:04:11 The $750 is a first time immediate lump sum of aid that the victims of the hurricane were given. just to hold them over until they get more aid. And look, I actually know someone who lives in the area that's been devastated by North Carolina. And so I want to kind of relay the message that she's been trying to spread in regard to what's happening on the ground there. There are small rural communities that are in a mountainous region of North Carolina. They were hit the hardest. And because there's usually like one road leading to their town, what happened is the hurricane destroyed those roads and it's really difficult for the first responders to get to them
Starting point is 00:04:57 and give them help. And these people are devastated. They have lost everything. And while I get that we're in an election cycle right now, Jank, like politicizing it like this is pretty gross. It really is. Yeah. So let me break that up because there's two things.
Starting point is 00:05:12 One is politicizing and now there's the lies. So politicizing it, well, you say, well, everything is politicized, right? And we often make fun of that politicians talking about don't politicize things. But in the case of natural disasters like this before an election, pre-Trump, they would try really hard not to politicize these things. And so Biden and Harris are from the old world. So they're like, they're doing the best they can in getting them aid and help. Although I, you know, if you said to me, hey, I bet they prepared ahead of time for this hurricane season,
Starting point is 00:05:45 little more than average because they know hurricane season happens right during an election. It's a very important election. They want to be able to respond as quickly and as efficiently as they can. I wouldn't be surprised by that, but that's not such a bad thing to be well prepared. I wish they'd be well prepared for all the hurricanes. But right now, they don't normally politicize this. They didn't politicize it when it came to Trump on this type of stuff, right? They would ask for the help when there was a forest fires and the hurricanes under Trump.
Starting point is 00:06:13 So Trump has no bounds, so he politicizes everything and lies about everything. So I'm not at all surprised he is making up all sorts of things about this, even though it might actually hurt people. So for example, when he says in that clip, and he said it many times now, they're not gonna at all, they're not coming, they're never gonna come, they didn't come, all that stuff's not true. And if you're in one of the areas that Anna was talking about that's hard to reach, you might up hope. Exactly. And you might be in tremendous despair and that might cause you an incredible
Starting point is 00:06:46 grief and it might lead you to make the wrong decisions. Because remember guys, we don't believe a word Trump's saying because we're on this planet. But on Planet Mega, they believe every word he says. So if he says they're not coming, they're going to really believe that the federal government has already abandoned them and is in the middle of helping someone in Mexico, right? So they might make all the wrong decisions based on that. Then the 750 $150 lie. See, that's the thing. I talked to you guys before. You only need one video to confirm your bias. You need dozens and dozens of videos and evidence to overturn a bias. So the minute you see Kamala Harris on video saying, we're going to get everybody $750 and they cut the video there. They go, aha! It's only $750. No, that's what they normally give under all circumstances like this, immediately for food, water, immediate relief. Then they assess the damage that you had. and then react accordingly to the damage that you had. They don't know if you lived in a $100,000 house, a million dollar house, et cetera, right?
Starting point is 00:07:48 So these things are obvious once you break it down. But right wing media and Trump lie to you on purpose and get you to, they're trying to get their viewers and his trying to get his, not just his voters, all voters to believe that nothing's going to happen. $750 is the only thing they're going to give you because they gave the rest to undocumented immigrants. And that the Democratic Party is not interested. in helping with relief efforts in Republican parts of the country, right? So like he's trying to put out this lie to make it appear as though the Democratic Party
Starting point is 00:08:21 is vindictive in that retaliating against Republican voters, there's no indication of that. And look, to the point you were making earlier, Jank, it's not just about them giving up, right? Think about how these people are experiencing extreme despair, okay? Just imagine losing your home, potentially losing members of your family. reading about how the smell of death is permeating now, okay, in parts of North Carolina. And then on top of that, adding additional stress and despair to people by alleging that they're not going to get any help. I mean, it's just devastating and unnecessary and so deeply cruel and immoral. But I do want to give you some more details because his lies were so
Starting point is 00:09:05 outrageous, that the editorial board at the most red newspaper in North Carolina, the Charlotte Observer, felt the need to put out a piece. It's titled, shame on Donald Trump for worsening North Carolina's Haleen tragedy with political lies. And in it, they write that by every indication, state and federal agencies have been working to help people in need. They've been airlifting food and other supplies to affected areas, helping families get information about missing loved ones, providing monetary assistance to folks whose homes were destroyed, working to clear and repair roads, and get critical infrastructure back up and running. And they even go so far as to cite some of the specific lies that Donald Trump has put out
Starting point is 00:09:49 there, including this, that Trump has also said that Georgia governor Brian Kemp couldn't get President Joe Biden on the phone to help his state with hurricane relief, a claim. that Kemp himself debunk. Now, some of you already know, but just in case anyone missed it, this was a hurricane that impacted several states, not just North Carolina. Georgia was also impacted. The independent called out this particular lie from Donald Trump as well, writing that Trump attacked Vice President Kamala Harris and the Biden administration in a true social post for supposedly going out of their way to not help people in Republican areas, a false charge, a Republican lawmaker representing three counties in hard hit western North Carolina,
Starting point is 00:10:32 which is largely rural and politically trends conservative, has called it a junk conspiracy. And by the way, it appears that Governor Kemp in Georgia also thinks this is a junk conspiracy because he actually ended up praising the job that the Biden administration has done in responding to this disaster. the Hill writes, Kemp praises Biden's Hurricane Haleen response amid Trump criticism. And just to give you the exact quote, Kemp said this of Biden. And by the way, they did meet. Biden just said, hey, what do you need? And I told him, you know, we got what we need.
Starting point is 00:11:13 We will work through the federal process. He offered that if there's other things we need, just to call him directly, which I appreciate that. But we've had FEMA embedded with us since, you know, a day or two before, before the storm hit. Which, by the way, I myself didn't know that until I read that quote from Brian Kemp. But unfortunately, Jank, it's not just Donald Trump who's spreading these lies. He's got all sorts of people surrounding him and supporting him who are also spreading those lies, including Senator Tom Cotton.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Here's what D.N. Criswell, the FEMA administrator, had to say about it. Take a look. This level of misinformation creates the scenario where they won't even come to us. They won't even register. And I need people to register so they can get what they're eligible for through our programs. Senator, what do you say to that criticism that Mr. Trump is confusing people at a very time when they need help the most? Well, I don't think he's confusing anyone. I think the administration did get caught flat-footed here and that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have proven to be overmatched by Vince again.
Starting point is 00:12:18 And if you hear from Brian Kemp, the governor of Georgia, who's very close to this, is monitoring it on the ground, Georgia's response. He said that the administration's response has been lackluster. Well, as I just. provided the evidence, what you just heard from Tom Cotton is not true. It's totally untrue. It is a brazen lie. What was really frustrating, though, is that he wasn't fact checked on that at all during that conversation. No, no, Anna, fact checks are evil and biased. And when you're the enemy of the facts that you know you're on the right side. Are you sure about that, mega? Are you sure about that? Or let me break down two more lies. So they say the Republican areas are
Starting point is 00:13:17 not getting the help because of vindictiveness from the Democrats. Now where would they come up with an idea like that? Because that's what they did when they were in charge. And last week we shared with you guys quotes from inside the Trump administration, the most senior administration officials that are helping with emergency aid under circumstances like this said Trump would often refuse to help areas that were blue areas. They had to go through long meetings to convince him that there were Republicans who also lived in those areas. Actually, not even Republicans. He doesn't care about that. people who voted for him specifically.
Starting point is 00:13:50 And they had to show him a map of Orange County and how many Republicans are there before he'd released the aid because he's a vindictive prick. He's one of the worst people you've ever heard of. And so he thinks, oh, I bet other people are just as evil as I am and that they'd withhold aid for political reasons if they didn't get the votes. Well, no, Donald Trump, I got breaking news for you. You're one of the worst people in the country and almost no one else thinks as immorily as you. do. I've got more. Yeah, I just wanted to double down on what you're saying in regard to the
Starting point is 00:14:22 projection here. Because if, look, if people don't trust us, you know, it's the left wing show, that's fine. Charlotte Observer, I mean, it is a paper in a state that isn't representing like a hardcore blue state, right? And they also called Trump out on that. They write that as president Trump could be flagrantly partisan in times of disaster. And on at least three occasions, hesitated to give disaster aid to areas he considered politically hostile or ordered special treatment for pro-Trump states. Trump was hesitant to send disaster aid when California was ravaged by wildfires in 2018. That was the campfire until he learned the affected part of the state was saturated with Trump voters. Yeah, and so look, the Trump supporters are not going to care about that at all.
Starting point is 00:15:11 They're probably going to celebrate and go, yes, are they're going to get more money. Because they viewed as inside the wagons, we trust and protect, outside the wagons, which is all the rest of you, we couldn't give a damn about. Whereas progressives view, everybody inside the wagon. So if you told us, hey, we're not going to send relief to North Carolina or Georgia, we'd say, are you nuts? Those are American citizens. Of course you go help them, right?
Starting point is 00:15:33 So now, and that's why, look, local Republicans, especially when things happen right then and there, both in the 2020 election and in this disaster relief situation. They tell you right away, no, Trump is lying because they're on the ground, they're with the people, they see the money coming in, they see FEMA, they see their own citizens and constituents and they go, well, that's just a flagrant lie. None of that is true, right? And then later they'll be overwhelmed by a tsunami of Trump propaganda and Trump fans yelling at them, lie, lie, lie, lie. If you don't lie like Trump, then we hate you and we're going to drive you out of the Republican Party. And give credit to a lot of those local Republican officials who have resisted that all of. along like Brian Camp. I got no love for that guy in any other way, but he's been very strong and consistent on not lying on any of these issues. Okay, last lie is about the 600 million going to undocumented immigrants that have come in and oh my God, that's why FEMA's running out of money. Is it true to 600 million appropriated for that, for housing of those immigrants? Yes, that part is true. Again, they have one piece of, they find a fact and then they build a fortress
Starting point is 00:16:43 of lies around it. So is it true that that would have gone to North Carolina or Georgia? No, everyone is saying that the affected areas are getting exactly what they would have gotten otherwise. Is it true that Mayorkas, the head of Department of Homeland Security said, but for the next hurricane, we're running out of money and we need new money. Yes, he did say that. Is it because of the 600 million? No, that's in the budget every year. It's a certain number based on how many people need housing. If you don't have that number, it's not like, oh, then the migrants don't come in. No, then the migrants become homeless and are all over the streets. So can I can I actually jump in with that? So I think that there is a misunderstanding
Starting point is 00:17:22 in regard to how money is appropriated. So money is appropriated by Congress for very specific purposes. And you can be critical of how, you know, Congress appropriates a lot more money for wars abroad or appropriates money for other things that you don't think are as important as taking care of our people, of Americans, especially after a natural disaster, like the one that was just experienced by Georgia, North Carolina, Florida. By the way, there's another potentially devastating hurricane barreling toward Florida as we speak. So I'm really concerned about that. But I think that that might be a valid criticism, because you see the aftermath of natural disasters in states like California following the wildfires, like the Maui fires, for instance.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Those people have not been made whole. And I think that that is a failure of government overall. And I think that those people should be taken care of and made whole. But the idea that there's just one giant pot and, you know, the federal government gets to pick and choose what to do with that money from that giant pot, it doesn't work that way. The money is specifically allocated for specific purposes. Yeah. And so just, I'm asking people to be thoughtful about. about their criticism, it might be a tough ass from some quarters, certainly from Trump and
Starting point is 00:18:37 anyone associated with them. But if you say, hey, we should give more money to FEMA because now climate change has made these hurricanes so much more severe. And so again, in the areas that were wiped out that Anna referred to earlier, one person again called it a thousand year storm. We're getting a thousand year storm once a year, maybe twice a year now, because climate change has made them more severe. So you say FEMA is not getting enough, 20 million is not enough. Okay, but then you could take from any part of the budget under that way of thinking. So you can say, why is all of FEMA getting $20 billion for all of the storms, every natural disaster, plus all the other things they have to do, like how's the migrants,
Starting point is 00:19:17 otherwise they're going to be homeless all over the country? All of that money, $26 billion in Israel as an add-on, just a cherry on top. And then the Republicans would say how, the Republican voters, not their politicians would say, how about Ukraine? Okay, let's have conversations about how we prioritize overall. That is a really important conversation. We're not shutting that down at all. But within this budget, the 600 million is less than a billion, just to help you. Okay. And the other 19.4 million goes towards natural disasters. And so it's not, the 600 isn't taking away from the rest. And why are they starting to run out of money? Because of climate change, we have,
Starting point is 00:20:00 nonstop, catastrophic storms and natural disasters. We should actually be addressing that root cause, but who blocks that? All the Republican politicians, including Donald Trump, because they get tons of money from oil companies. So their answer is drill baby drill, which creates all of these problems. All right, let's take a break. When we come back, Hillary Clinton calls for more censorship on social media because she's worried about losing control, lost control long.
Starting point is 00:20:30 time ago, but we'll dive into that story and more when we come back. Okay, okay, but that person with that handle, just joined by hitting the join button below. We appreciate you. And Chris, aka Culta Personality Birch, gifted five memberships on YouTube too. Love our YouTube community, Anna. Well, let's get to some more musings of a failed presidential candidate. We should be, in my view, repealing something called Section 230, which gave, you know, platforms on the internet. because they were thought to be just pass-throughs, that they shouldn't be judged for the content that is posted.
Starting point is 00:21:36 But we now know that that was an overly simple view. We need to remove the immunity from liability, and we need to have guardrails. We need regulation. Now, host Michael Smirkanis looked shocked by what Hillary Clinton was saying there, and he should look shocked. Anyone listening to that should look shocked, because as you heard, Hillary Clinton is calling for the repeal of Section 230, which of course would lead to some serious censorship on social media. But as you're about to hear, that seems to be what Hillary Clinton wants. We should be, in my view, repealing something called Section 230, which gave, you know, platforms on the internet immunity because they were thought to be just pass-throughs, that they shouldn't be judged for the content that is posted.
Starting point is 00:22:26 But we now know that that was an overly simple view that if the platforms, whether it's Facebook or Twitter X or Instagram or TikTok, whatever they are, if they don't moderate and monitor the content, we lose total control. We lose total control. And that's what this seems to really be about. The ability to control a narrative or the narrative. And when you back in the day had four major networks and it was far easier to control the narrative, not a problem. But once you have social media where obviously independent news organizations tend to thrive or independent individuals who do citizen journalism tend to thrive, well then it's a lot more difficult for anyone in the federal government to control any narrative. And I think that's what this is really about.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Yeah. And so look, they have their excuses and then every once in a while they take their mask off and tell you why they actually are doing it. So their excuse is, oh my God, I'm so worried about the children. The children are using the phones too much. Now, okay, the reason why they start with that is because that resonates with a lot of people. Oh, my kids are on the phones too much, too much screen time. I'm worried about all this envy that Instagram creates. are legitimate concerns, right? But then they pivot instantly, because that's not what this is about at all. This is about control, as she accidentally admitted there. What would they want to control?
Starting point is 00:23:59 Well, obviously, the message. If you're wondering, what do you mean? Are they controlling the message now? Well, again, if you're uninitiated, meaning that you watched television news and read the papers your whole life, you don't realize that, yes, the establishment has a message that they control, and they put that out through all of mainstream media, and no one's allowed to go outside those guardrails. And if you go outside their guardrails, as I did it on MSNBC, you're zapped, right?
Starting point is 00:24:29 And it's not just me. In my book, Justice's Coming, I talked about Phil Donahue, Ashley Banfield. There's so many different examples. If you go outside of the narrative. Now, guys, it's not conspiratorial, it's just group think. They think, well, Joe Manchin, when he backs killing the paid family leave, is moderate. because he's from West Virginia, et cetera. Now, that's just misleading because that actually pulls us 16%.
Starting point is 00:24:52 It's a radical corporate position. They take corporate positions and they call them moderate, right? That is one of the ways that they serve their donors. So now, but you don't have to take our word for it because we have several clips to show you guys what they're actually concerned about when it comes to social media. Then we're going to get into the hard questions of, but wait, aren't they right that a lot of ghouls and goblins will come out if you allow for this kind of freedom? Okay, that's an interesting conversation.
Starting point is 00:25:18 But first, let's show you Hillary Clinton on TikTok on why she's concerned about it. So let's go to that quick. I have had many conversations as you have had with a lot of young people over the last many months now. And you're right. They don't know very much at all about the history of the Middle East or frankly about history. Propaganda is not education. Propaganda on whether it's TikTok or in the classroom is actually the opposite of education. Anybody who is teaching in a university or anyone who is putting content on social media
Starting point is 00:26:01 should be held responsible for what they include and what they exclude. And so much of what we're seeing, particularly on TikTok, about what's going on in the Middle East, is woefully false, but it's also incredibly slanted pro-Hamas, anti-Israel. So you do want to control a political message, and very specifically about Israel. They're not hiding it. She said it on a very popular morning show that the entire establishment watches. And so now all of a sudden we're not talking about it. Wait, is Jenny online seeing too many models and thinking that's real?
Starting point is 00:26:39 We're talking about Israel and how the message has to be controlled. Now, I noticed that she never said anything about mainstream media, because they're perfectly happy with the propaganda on mainstream media. They're unhappy with what's unprotect, like, that there isn't propaganda on social media, that there's actual real human voices that they don't have control over, and it's driving them crazy. Now, if you think, well, maybe she's just, you know, one random, no, now let's show you Mitt Romney, obviously, United States Senator, talking to, and they blink in our Secretary of State.
Starting point is 00:27:13 When they're talking about banning TikTok, what do they bring up? Let's find out. Some wonder why there was such overwhelming support for us to shut down potentially TikTok or other entities of that nature. If you look at the postings on TikTok and the number of mentions of Palestinians relative to other social media sites, it's overwhelmingly so among TikTok. broadcast. So I'd, I'd note that's of a real interest. And the president will get the chance to make action in that regard. Typically, the Israelis are good at PR. What's happened here? How have they, how have they and we been so ineffective at communicating the realities there and our point of view? So there they are corporate Republicans and corporate Democrats agreeing. We've got to shut down TikTok because we're concerned about the children.
Starting point is 00:28:07 We're concerned about Israel. Israel's normally good with PR, propaganda, but now real people are allowed to talk online. We have to find a way to get this back under control. We're losing control. That meant Romney video. That was super telling. I mean, yeah, 100% super brazen in what the real motivations are. And guys, just think about how powerful video is in helping you to understand something
Starting point is 00:28:34 devastating that's happening in the world. Today is the one year anniversary of Hamas' attacks on October 7th against Israelis. And when videos of those attacks were put out there, when the public was able to see the atrocities that were being committed against civilians, that was powerful. And that led to a tremendous amount of sympathy toward Israelis and Israel as a whole. But following that, you know, Israel's response, which went above and beyond anything that I think they should have done, led to a lot of civilians on the Palestinian side in Gaza dying. Many children dying, many mothers dying.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And those images and those videos have been spread all throughout social media. They want to stop that from happening because those are powerful images and it provides evidence of the brutality that has been basically used against the Palestinian people, okay? just Hamas, okay, I'm not talking about Hamas, I'm talking about ordinary Palestinian civilians. They want to hide what's really happening on the ground there. Yeah, and so the Israelis put together a 45 minute video of the atrocities of October 7th a couple months after it happened, and they gave it to the American media and they almost kind of insisted that everyone watch it otherwise you're anti-Semitic, right? So all the anchors
Starting point is 00:29:56 on cable news watched it and then the next couple of days and weeks, they kept referring back to, oh my god we saw this video and if you saw what we saw it's just so horrific what happened and all that is actually true that video is true and horrific things happened on October 7th our heart breaks for those poor civilians that went through that so now the rest of it is also true on the other 364 days of the year the Palestinians were obliterated so 60 to 70% of the buildings are gone 90% of the people are displaced and what you started to see in social media was things you were literally not allowed in mainstream media, which is Palestinian suffering. Israeli suffering you can see all day, 24 hours a day, and in fact, they edited and produced it
Starting point is 00:30:41 and handed to the anchors who then tell you about it over and over and over again. And again, nothing wrong with that because those are innocent civilians. But when it comes to Palestinian suffering, not only do they not show it in mainstream media, now they're saying, well, we've got to ban social media. Because now people are seeing Palestinian babies that are dead. There's over 700 dead Palestinian babies, let alone 25,000 children and women, right? Well over that number. So, but we keep seeing.
Starting point is 00:31:07 We saw the headless baby. We saw the starving children. And they're like, bottle it back up. We don't want these social media showing real pictures of dead and suffering Palestinians, Arabs, and Muslims. Because the people in charge don't want that. And they're losing control of the media. And guys, this isn't just about Israel. They're losing control of the message overall.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Now before, when I used to talk about money in politics as a person on the left, when I got to the right wing, the right wing would say, because they had heard the propaganda on their outlets and mainly on television and mainstream media. Oh, money in politics is fine. It's freedom. And you know what? You want to do public financing? No, that's just taking our money and giving it to politicians.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I heard Sean Hannity say that 200 times. No, I'm against public financing. It should be privately financed and all of our politicians should work for private interests that are not our interests at all, but just serving the rich. That was because they didn't have social media. Now when I talk to the right wing, the reaction is completely different. They're like, oh, money in politics sucks. It's total corruption.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And by the way, if you notice, and this is why I give MAGA a lot of credit, and it drives some of our viewers crazy. So I, all their lies, I break down 2,000 times over. But if you notice, they turned on Mitch McConnell before the Democrats turned on Nancy Pelosi. Both McConnell and Pelosi have collected over a billion dollars in corporate funding, okay, from all the different lobbyists and donors. And oftentimes the very same people, right? And so we say McConnell's evil, they say Pelosi's evil. But MAGA first went, oh yeah, it turns out McConnell's evil too.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And they started realizing their, now I wish they'd realize it about Trump too. Yeah. But my point here is because of social media, even with the downsides, which we'll get to in a second, the upsides are invisible. Almost no one talks about him because mainstream media hates social media, not just because they can't contain a message, but for them in particular, it is their opponents. It's their competitors in the marketplace. So the politicians and the donors and mainstream media are all will give you 100% negative
Starting point is 00:33:22 PR about social media in order to try to bury it because they're worried they're losing control. And I want to thank Hillary Clinton for confessing that. Absolutely. I mean, go ahead and give the game away. It's important to know what you really have on your mind and she did just that in that interview. All right, I actually want to go to D block next. We'll get to see after the break because I wanted to talk a little bit about Kamala Harris' interview with 60 minutes. They are publishing the entirety of the interview tonight, but there was a teaser clip that kind of made its rounds online that I think is worthy. of discussion. So without further ado, let me give you the details.
Starting point is 00:34:20 In a brand new 60 Minutes interview, Kamala Harris dodged three questions about whether Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu is truly a close ally of the United States. Now pay attention to the framing of the question. It's not about Israel being an ally to the United States. It's specifically about the prime minister of Israel and whether or not He's an ally of the United States. And it turns out that Harris was very uncomfortable and refused to really answer the question every single time. So in the 60 Minutes interview, CBS's Bill Whitaker did a pretty excellent job of succinctly
Starting point is 00:34:59 explaining the Biden administration's complete foreign policy failure and lack of influence over BB specifically, telling Harris, quote, the Biden Harris administration has press net to agree to a ceasefire. He's resisted. You urged him not to go into Lebanon. He went in anyway. He was promised to make Iran pay for the, or he has promised to make Iran pay for the missile attacks. And that has the potential of expanding the war. Whitaker then went on to ask, does the U.S. have no sway over Prime Minister Netanyahu? And here's how Harris responded to that question. Quote, the aid that we have given Israel allowed Israel to defend itself against 200 ballistic missiles that were just meant to attack the Israelis and the people of Israel.
Starting point is 00:35:51 And when we think about the threat that Hamas, Hezbollah presents, Iran, I think that it is without any question our imperative to do what we do to allow Israel to defend itself against those kinds of attacks. Now before I continue with the rest of the exchange, I need to make this point. We all know that there is a difference between defensive capabilities and offensive capabilities. Compare the treatment of Israel to that of Ukraine. Ukraine has had to beg the U.S. government to provide more than just defensive military capabilities, right? They want offensive weapons.
Starting point is 00:36:34 They want to go into Russia, they want to strike Russia. Now, the Biden administration has loosened some of their restrictions on that when it comes to Ukraine. But when it comes to Israel, we're not talking about defensive capability. We're talking about 2,000 pound bombs that have been supplied to a belligerent government that continues to rain terror on the people living in Gaza. Now in Beirut, obviously they've bombed Syria. They've bombed Iran. I mean, this is insanity. So her answer, I'm sorry, does it pass the smell test?
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah. So we're going to get back into why her answer is disastrous in a second. But on the point that Anna is making, guys, today's October 7th, so it's the anniversary, that means we've got 365 days, 66 now. So October 7th is the day of morning for Israeli civilians and it should be. The other 364 days have been Israel obliterating the Palestinians. So are we going to do a day of morning every single day because we should because on the one side 810 civilians died and that's terrible terrible. That's a big number, 810. On the other side, well over 30,000 civilians have died. And so that is just an absolutely brutal number. So my point here is you say, hey, in the beginning, the first couple of weeks is defense. First couple of months, they're defending themselves. They're trying to extract Hamas and kill their leaders, et cetera. In the 12th month for the Palestinians who appear to everyone, we can all see it, we have eyes,
Starting point is 00:38:10 appear to be defenseless, they're just obliterating them for 12 months straight. Still claiming that in the 12th month, that is self-defense is preposterous. Actually, let me give you all an update on what's currently transpiring in Gaza. I mean, you would think that the military operations and bombings would at least slow down, considering the fact that they're now doing a ground invasion in Lebanon, they're bombing the crap out of Beirut. No, they haven't slowed down. So Netanyahu argues that they are currently doing aerial bombardments in northern Gaza because Hamas has been able to, you know, gather up again and start making plans again. I mean, look, how many military officials within the Israeli
Starting point is 00:38:56 government have made it abundantly clear that Netanyahu's course of action to wipe out Hamas is not going to work. Because when you kill entire family members, when you brutalize people, they're going to be out for revenge. It's helping Hamas recruit. But Netanyahu knows that. And most importantly, Kamala Harris and Donald Trump know that. And they're both lying on behalf of Netanyahu. So we'll get to Trump in a second, too. But to Anna's point about the government officials and how they basically had been planning this all along. Smoutrich, who's in the cabinet, said this in 2018. So, what, six, five years before the October 7th attack, five years before.
Starting point is 00:39:38 He said, quote, as far as I'm concerned, Gaza should be hermetically sealed. We shouldn't provide them anything. Let them die of hunger, thirst, and malaria. I don't care. 2018, he said that. So, hey, look at that. The Israelis knew about October 7th, now we know that Israeli newspapers reported it. The Israeli government did nothing about October 7th.
Starting point is 00:40:00 And now all of a sudden they have so much technical capabilities. They're blown up pagers. They're killing every physicist that might or might not work on the Iranian program. So apparently they're super sophisticated, but golly gee, the one giant attack that we were told about, we didn't do anything about. And then we wound up hermetically sealing Gaza, just as our cabinet wanted five years ago and starving the Palestinians of death. Wow, what a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:40:25 So tell us more pretty little lies, Kamala Harris. One other thing I just want to quickly say. Kamala Harris cites the nearly 200 ballistic missiles. It was 180 that Iran fired toward Israel. They didn't do that out of nowhere. They did that immediately after Israel had announced that they were doing a ground invasion in Lebanon, and they had already been bombing the capital of Lebanon, Beirut. So just erasing that reality and making it seem like Iran attacked out of nowhere is ridiculous,
Starting point is 00:40:54 but it's typical course of action for American officials. With that said, Whitaker did not drop his line of questioning. In fact, he stated, but it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening. Harris responds with a complete nothing burger saying, well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel, that were very much prompted by or a result of many things, including our advocacy for what happens or what needs to happen in the region. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:41:30 That means, what is that statement? I know what that means. That means, well, we couldn't get them do any big things that we wanted. Like, hey, stop bombing the living crap out of these people. Don't go into Lebanon. Don't do ground troops in Gaza. Don't go into Rafah over and over again. We asked for something publicly and then that,
Starting point is 00:41:47 Yahu comes out and goes, no, we're not going to do anything and hurry up and send a goddamn money quicker than I were getting it right now. Literally, he yelled at us for not sending it as fast as he wants it. So what Kamala Harris is referring to is behind the scenes they plead and they get on their hands and knees and they beg. They're like, no, please, please listen to a tiny little thing. All the Palestinians are about to starve to death. Can you just allow like 10, 20% of food in so they don't at least starve because it'll look
Starting point is 00:42:14 bad for us. We don't mind you killing them. We just gave you 26 billion to kill more, right? Just do it in a more subtle PR friendly way. And then let Netanyo was like, all right, I will allow a tiny amount of food in. Congratulations America, you have something. They rush back. They're like, oh, we can't tell you, but behind the scenes. We were so heroic. Losers, pathetic. So Whitaker pressed Harris one more time asking, do we have a real close ally in Netanyahu? Here is Harris's hilariously awful response, quote, I think with all due respect, the better question is do we have an important alliance between the American people and the Israeli people and the answer to that question, according to her, is yes. I disagree completely with that, okay? I disagree in that, you know, U.S. taxpayers are obviously struggling with the institutional
Starting point is 00:43:16 failures within our own country. I don't think we have any business funding the brutal acts of a foreign country. It's one thing to support an ally of ours when they are justified in their military activity. But this past year has shown us that they're going far beyond what is justified, not only in terms of what I believe, but in terms of what the international community believes and in terms of what international law indicates. Okay, first credit to Bill Whitaker. Nice job on the questions, exactly the right questions. He's part of mainstream media, but he still asked good, solid questions and did follow-ups. Because the essence of this is, hey, wait a minute, don't we have leverage with the Israelis?
Starting point is 00:44:02 Didn't we just, we give them $4 billion every year. We've given them $300 billion overall. And we just gave them an extra $26 billion as a thank you president for the slaughter in Gaza, which is unbelievable. So obviously we have the leverage. You're just choosing not to use it. So why are you choosing not to use it? And that's a question she can't answer.
Starting point is 00:44:24 That's why you get, well, the secretly behind the scenes, our words moved things, but we can't tell you how or prove it, etc. Nonsense, nonsense. But the answer is clear. No, we will not use our leverage. Because in Washington, the idea of not giving Israel,
Starting point is 00:44:44 literally every single dollar they have requested, is unthinkable, unthinkable. So they're like, that it doesn't even pop into their heads. Even if somebody asked them three different times, She's like, doesn't address it. Because as long as the APAC money keeps coming in, they're gonna, our money is gonna keep going out. It's non-negotiable, she will never, ever turn on the donors.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And by the way, that is telling not just on this issue of Israel, that means on every issue, she's never going to turn on the donors. 100%. So all of the things that she says about progressive things that are economic in nature that we like, that's why I keep telling you, I love you and I try. Trump is worse on every issue and including this issue. And my vote is super clear, but I can't getting, I don't want you to get false hope. She's gonna do nothing that the donors don't approve of in every field in every category.
Starting point is 00:45:37 And so, look, last thing is, is Trump gonna use our leverage, Mr. America first? Mr. I'm the art of the deal, I'm gonna, you know, negotiate, et cetera. No, whenever he's asked about it and it happened recently, he said, no, Iran, that Israel should hit the nuclear sites first, which is the most likely to cause a wider war. And he's like, I don't care. I don't care because he was told by Miriam Edelson, his donor, you're to do whatever Israel commands of you. And so if that makes you uncomfortable, don't take it up with me. Look up Mary Madelson's over $90 million to Donald Trump. If you think Donald Trump's a man of principle and he would have, he'll defy her no, no, anyway, well, listen to his comments.
Starting point is 00:46:22 He says, is there should be allowed to do anything they want. He thinks we should give them all of our money. We should never question them. But so does Kamala Harris. So the partisans on both sides are totally full of crap. Yep. I mean, the corruption can literally take two parties that like one party takes a position on literally anything else.
Starting point is 00:46:44 The opposite party has to take the extreme opposite position. That's how our politics currently works. But there's one issue that both parties. that both parties are 100% aligned on, how could that possibly be? Could it be the bribery that we have legalized in this country, allowing for a, you know, moneyed interest group that represents a foreign country to have this kind of influence over the two parties? So that's what we're dealing with here.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And look, some people argue, well, Trump's way worse. Trump's worse in his rhetoric. But in terms of real world actions, both parties are exactly the same when it comes to this issue. And it's devastating. And I'll leave on one last note here. Again, credit to Bill Whitaker for asking what I think are obvious questions in this regard, but that almost no one else in mainstream media has asked, which is don't we have leverage?
Starting point is 00:47:37 Why are you not using it? And the answer is super uncomfortable because they're not allowed to touch that money. Why are the people leading the most powerful nation on earth not allowed to control? the money that they are sending a different government. And that's super awkward. That's what nobody in Washington wants to talk about. But that's a stone cold reality. You just saw it in Kamala Harris's answers.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Well, when we come back from the break, let's check back in with CBS mornings because their co-host's treatment of Tanahisi Coates has led to an internal investigation. And I want to tell you what the result of that internal investigation happens to be. All right, back on TYT, Jank Anna and Linda Phelps with you guys. Linda just joined by hitting the join button below. Tate 24, gift and a membership on YouTube. Appreciate you guys. The best way to help in terms of donations,
Starting point is 00:48:51 which we definitely need in these super hard times in digital media is tyt.com slash team. TYT.com slash team. We appreciate you guys. Anna. Well, I wanted to talk a little bit about how CBS has handled the backlash that it received following an exchange between a host by the name of Tony Docupil and Tanehisi Coates, who was on to talk about his latest book. Here's a reminder of how that conversation went down. I want to dive into the Israel-Palestine section of the book, it's the largest section of the book.
Starting point is 00:49:23 And I have to say when I read the book, I imagine if I took your name out of it, took away the awards and the acclaim, took the cover off the book, the publishing house goes away. The content of that section would not be out of place in the backpack of an extremist. I have a very, very, very, very moral compass about this. And again, perhaps it's because of my ancestry. Either apartheid is right or it's wrong. Is calling an author who is critical of Israel's treatment of Palestinians, an extremist, the type of behavior a journalist should engage in.
Starting point is 00:49:59 That's what CBS News wanted to look into following backlash over how co-host Tony DocuPil treated Tanehisi Coates during that exchange. And before we get to what their internal review found and you want to stick around for it, it's amazing, I do want to just give you a little bit more of how this exchange went down. Let's take a look. If you were to read this book, you would be left wondering why does any of Israel exist? What a horrific place committing horrific acts on a daily basis. So I think the question is central and key if Israel has a right to exist. And if your answer is no, then I guess
Starting point is 00:50:37 the question becomes, why do the Palestinians have a right to exist? Why do 20 different Muslim countries have a right to do? My answer is that no country in this world establishes its ability to exist through rights, countries establish their ability to exist through force, as America did. And so I think this question of right to Israel does exist. It's a fact. The question of its right is not a question that I would be faced with within the other country. So there was a lot of backlash, I'm happy to say, in regard to how Dockypil was treating Tonehisi Coates, and so CBS decides to do this internal review. And what they found was kind of amazing. CBS News Leadership said an internal review found that a controversial interview conducted by morning show host Tony DocuPill with the writer Tanjisi Coates did not meet its editorial standards.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Which I'm going to be honest, that actually shocked me. Well, I agree that it doesn't meet editorial standards. Like if you want to do journalism, it is clear that there was a pretty significant bias with the host. But for a major network to admit this is a big deal, especially when it comes to, you know, this particular topic. They further, they had more to say. A network insider told Mediaite that the interview prompted several CBS news journalists to voice their concerns internally that DocuPil showed inappropriate bias.
Starting point is 00:52:09 But not everyone agreed with that take, I'm gonna give you some more internal statement in just a moment, but before I do, Jank, thoughts. Okay, I'm going to start in a funny way here. Thank God Tonehisi Coates is black and that he's a famous author and really well liked within the establishment because otherwise, none of this would have happened. So if I was in that same exact situation, no one would have stood up for me. And we would. Of course, you guys would have, but no one at CBS would have stood up for me.
Starting point is 00:52:40 No one in mainstream media would have stood up for me. why? One, I'm not liked by the people in the establishment. As an outsider, you get no special privileges. In fact, you get the opposite. You're assumed to be a radical that should be attacked. And if you're not attacked, people go, why didn't you attack him? He doesn't even have any power. And he's saying something that we all find unacceptable. Number two, I'm of a Muslim background. So it's okay to call Muslims anti-Semitic 24-7 whenever they criticize Israel, I've never seen anyone object to that. And in fact, it's done so regularly that you, it's just, whenever I go on a show,
Starting point is 00:53:17 I, that's the very first thing I expect is the question, do you, you know, support Hamas and Hezbollah and, you know, and are basically they're intubating, are you a terrorist? And then when I say, no, I don't support those groups, but I'm deeply concerned about what Israel's doing, they immediately then say, are you an anti-Semite or they say, or they'll literally calling me an anti-Semite, et cetera, because if you're Muslim, you have no privileges at all. So it's a funny day in America when a black guy's got more privileges than anyone does. So that's a step up in a way that's kind of wonderful for equality. But it's super ironic because obviously it's because Muslims are now the very bottom. And so, but more important
Starting point is 00:54:00 than any of that is the fact that he has a name. That's why if you notice, Tony Docapill said at the beginning. If I take the name of your book. Yeah, exactly. That's a good point. That is a good point. Because that's a strange thing to say, right? He would never say to me if I take your name off your book because they would think, no, the book matches the name. Yeah. This is a guy where the insiders have no respect for. So we can say anything we want about him and call him a terrorist loving anti-Semite. But when you do it to someone that has allies in the building, then you're in a little bit of trouble. And that's what happened to Tony Doakerbilt. But it is a wonderful sea change.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Never happened in my life before where someone who's enormously biased in favor of Israel in mainstream media, which was in my lifetime until this conflict, was I would say, and they can catch feelings about this all they like. And they could show me the examples. Because in my experience, it was about 100% of the anchors on television would do exactly what Tony Docapill did. And they would be rewarded for it and feted for it, not punished. So the fact that they are saying this doesn't meet editorial standards, that is shocking.
Starting point is 00:55:07 So I agree with you in regard to, I guess the immunity idol that Tanehisi Coates has, not just in regard to his race, but also in regard to how well liked and accepted he is within the establishment. And I said this the first time we covered the story. I'm going to say it again. He will forever have my support for what he's doing and what he did in that conversation. Because it's not just about the message, it's the way in which he relayed that message to the American people. It was coming from a place of justice, morality, right? And so I want to go to what I believe was the most powerful part of what he had to say. Because guys, messaging is super important and what he says here is very, very powerful.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Let's watch. What is it that so particularly offends you about the existence? of a Jewish state that is a Jewish safe place and not any of the other states out there. There's nothing that offends me about a Jewish state. I am offended by the idea of states built on ethnocracy no matter where they are. Muslim and included. I would not want a state where any group of people laid down their citizenship rights based on ethnicity. The country of Israel is a state in which half the population exist on one tier of citizenship,
Starting point is 00:56:27 and everybody else that's ruled by Israelis exist on another tier, including Palestine, Israeli citizens. The only people that exist on that first tier are Israeli Jews. Why do we support that? Why is that okay? I'm the child of Jim Crow. I'm the child of people that were born into a country where that was exactly the case of American apartheid. I walk over there and I walk through the occupied territories and I walk down the street in Hebron. And a guy says to me, I can't walk down the street unless I profess my religion. So the reason why I found that so powerful is because he he personalizes it and he helps Americans who are obviously aware of the injustices of Jim Crow helps them understand what is happening on the ground in Israel, how the Palestinian people
Starting point is 00:57:17 have been treated like second class citizens and even worse than that. And so while I really appreciate that CBS News did this internal review and they found overall that it didn't pass editorial muster, Unfortunately, not everyone was on board with that message, including, this is the worrying part, CBS News Chief Wendy McMahone and her top deputy, Adrian Rourke. So I don't even understand how Tony's interview failed to meet our editorial standards, she said, according to Puck's Dylan Byers. She argued that Docupil appropriately challenged coats one-sided world view. That's insanity. But those, you see, that's why I'm talking about guys, but in mainstream media, that's not insanity.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Those people that are saying, what the hell's going on? Why does this, not our editorial standards? I understand why they're so puzzled because they're like, this is what we've been doing on the air for the last 50 years, but in their worldview, they think, I mean, Tonehisi, coach is so one-sided, he cares about both Israeli lives and Palestinian lives. You're only supposed to care about Israeli lives. Okay, I mean, Tony Yoko-Pil said in the middle there, why do Palestine, why do, he said, why do Palestinians have a right to exist?
Starting point is 00:58:40 And but those people running the news department there, they're like, I don't get it. Of course, that makes sense. That's totally our editorial standards. Why do the Palestinians even have a right to exist? They shouldn't be existing. Israel, on the other hand, is the most important country there is. And they have all infinite right to exist. And no one else that is opposed to them has any right to exist.
Starting point is 00:59:02 And so it's just a disgusting one-sided view of the world that I've seen in mainstream media my entire life. Look, last things from the interview that you saw there with your own eyes, and heard with your ears. He said, so this sounds like an extremist position. So you think the Palestinians also having a state? Not easy, Coates is not saying, oh, no, the Israelis shouldn't exist. He never said any of that. So you're saying it's an extremist point of view for the Palestinians to have the same thing as the Israelis.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Gee, I wonder if you're biased, I can't quite tell. And if you notice every question, why are you saying only a Jewish state shouldn't exist, but all the other states are fine? He didn't say all the other states are fine. Yeah. You imagine that in your mind because you genuinely believe that anyone who would criticize Israel is an anti-Semite. So you assume he criticized, oh, obviously this guy's an anti-Semite. So what do you not say it about?
Starting point is 00:59:58 And he's like, of course I say it about the Muslim states. And he seemed like shocked by like, because he assumes, oh, you must hate all Jews. Oh, you apply the same standards of Muslims. That's so weird because in his mind, he never applies the same standards. Israel is allowed to do everything. Muslims are allowed to do nothing. They're not even allowed to exist. And that's why half the building is shocked now.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Like, what the hell now we got to be unbiased? That doesn't make any sense to them. Last thing I'll say, nicest comments I get is when people say, hey, you know what? I love that you guys stuck up for us when you're not part of our tribe, our identity. So for example, African Americans, when they come up and they say, man, you know, it's so good to see someone who's not black, who's fighting for us just as hard as anyone. is, right? And so, you know, when Benjamin Crump said on the show that Trayvon Martin's story wouldn't have become a national story if it wasn't for the Young Turks, that gives me life. And LGBTQ folks saying that over and over again through all these years, so many different
Starting point is 01:01:02 people saying, thank you for fighting for us, even though you're not us, right? So I want to give that same compliment to Tanahisi Coates. We appreciate your brother. You got credibility through your hard work and your great writing. And then you use that credibility for the right things and to do what's moral and standing out for people that aren't from your background. And I can't thank you enough for that. 100%. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:27 When we come back for our two, Trump brackets and more. Don't miss it.

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