The Young Turks - Dancing Queen

Episode Date: October 22, 2022

Mar-A-Lago classified documents contained top-secret information about China and Iran. Conspiracy theorist and Trump’s buddy has been sentenced to 4 months in prison. AOC subdues the chants of heckl...ers by dancing to the beat of their jeers. Tucker Carlson accuses MSNBC of starting a race war against white people. Angry parents accuse a student of creating a satanic, hate-filled mural. Host: John Iadarola, Cenk Uygur, Adrienne Lawrence Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Cobra Kai, drop it. Adrian Lawrence, ready to have a fantastic show for you guys. Fascism is coming. Okay, that's later. That's later. Okay, part of it is already here, Tucker Carlson. So we will get into all of that. Today's a good day, food for thought trivia today for the members.
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Starting point is 00:02:21 Okay, let's jump into the news then, everybody. There are still thousands and thousands and thousands of stolen documents that Donald Trump took to Mara Lago that we do not know the contents of. But as of the last day, we do know the contents of a few, and it is not looking good. According to a source from inside of the investigation, at least one of the documents seized by the FBI describes Iran's missile program. Okay, other documents described highly sensitive intelligence work aimed at China. And so from the very early on, very early on in this investigation, we had heard through leaks that there were documents that were of a national security nature. There had been talk about programs or documents having to do with nuclear programs.
Starting point is 00:03:10 We don't have any more information about that right now. But it has been easy over the past few months to forget about those early leaks and to start to focus on, for instance, Trump's conversations with Bob Woodward, where he's talking about letters to the dictator of North Korea, some of them were letters, yes, and others were about the most sensitive sorts of information. And the sources have said that this is not just a thing where it would look really bad if these were to come out.
Starting point is 00:03:37 There would be ongoing damage to America's ability to conduct these sorts of intelligence operations. They say that any unauthorized disclosures of specific information in the documents would oppose multiple risks, people aiding U.S. intelligence efforts could be endangered, and collection methods could be compromised. Some of the people referenced in the documents could still be assisting the United States, and their lives would almost certainly be forfeit either in Iran or in China were that to be discovered. Now to mention the fact that were details of whatever is in these documents to come out, I have a feeling that neither Iran nor
Starting point is 00:04:11 China would like it and might retaliate in some fashion. And so we don't know. about, again, all of the other documents, they do say that the classified documents about Iran and China are considered among the most sensitive, which it's a sentence that's structured as if it's supposed to make us feel better, but I would really rather that those were the most sensitive. I don't like the idea that there's other stuff that's comparable to missile technology or defense, spies that are embedded inside of China and things of that sort. And so they are leaving open the door in that statement that there are potentially even, even more sensitive documents.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And remember, these are the sorts of things Donald Trump specifically chose to steal from the United States government when he's finally booted from the White House. Yeah, so in order to get to the right result here, the most important part is for us to understand the depth of the problem and to ignore the zombies. So I'm gonna explain what that means in a second. First, let's do the usual comic slash tragic situation that always arises with Donald Trump. So first subpoena goes, not the spina, the first request goes out, hey, it looks like you've stolen some of the documents, Mr. President, could you please return them? Obviously, there'll be no consequences. You're among the elites. We're ever so sorry to bother you for having caught you as breaking the law, but can you return them?
Starting point is 00:05:32 He returns some of them. In that batch, there's 184 classified documents. 25 of them are top secret. The archives are like, geez, this is crazy. Why did he take these home? This is terrible, ridiculous. No, wait a minute, I don't think this is all of them, right? Then they ask him again, and this time, think about it, guys. I mean, forget the right wingers. I'm just talking to independence, okay? The right wingers are the zombies.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I'll get back to them. Why? Then he turns over another 38 classified documents and 17 of them are top secret. Why didn't he turn over that second batch with the first batch? Weird. Right? Like, why is he constantly trying to hold on? Then the archives are like, Jesus, I don't think this is all of it either, right?
Starting point is 00:06:16 So then they sent somebody down there because Trump's like, oh, what, what? I'm cooperating, huh, right? I gave you everything already. What do you want, right? So they go because they have internal sources. They go to the storage room and there's boxes that look like just like the other boxes that held classified information. And Trump's guys are like, yeah, those boxes are not the same as the other boxes and you're not allowed to look.
Starting point is 00:06:39 we're not a lot to look. Those look like top secret documents. No, you're not allowed to look. And besides, they're not there, okay? And Trump and his lawyers sign the thing saying, no, we don't have anymore. We don't have anymore. And then you see on tape at Mar-a-Lago,
Starting point is 00:06:56 them moving the boxes afterwards, afterwards, right? Because Trump told him to move, and the inside sort of say, Trump told me to move him after he told you there weren't any more documents. That's unbelievable lies, right? And then they raid, and then they find all of these new documents, tens of thousands of documents. So many of them classified, so many of them top secret. And now we find out, oh, my God, as we were worried, it's the top secret information related to weapons programs of Iran and China.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And our potential spies in those countries whose lives are endangered, it just doesn't get any worse than this. And so now that returns us to the zombies. In a rational world, guys, that's it. we're done with it, you arrest Donald Trump, and you follow the regular course of law, rule of law, law, law and order, right? No, there's a third of the country that goes, nope, he magically he classified them by thinking about them. And besides the FBI planted them, even though he says they were there and that they were messed up his already organized documents, and besides which it was the ghost of Hugo Chavez. So, but what we're doing, and this is very,
Starting point is 00:08:02 very, very important is we're wasting time arguing with zombies. So if you're a prosecutor, you're a bureaucrat, you're a legislator, whoever you are in government today, you must protect democracy. And if you let them keep breaking. This is how fascists test the system. They test, they test, they test, what can we get away with? What can we get away with? Hey, why don't I say the national secrets? Maybe I sell the national secrets. What can I get away with? What will they let me do. Because if I get back into power, what if I steal the whole country? I just say there is no more democracy. They let me get away with everything, right? So you must uphold the law. Don't do anything unfair. Don't arrest people that didn't do anything
Starting point is 00:08:45 wrong. That's mental. That's what the other side does. But when someone breaks the law, you must uphold the law. If you don't, they're going to breach the walls. Fascism isn't coming. It's here. All right. Adrian. Yeah, without a doubt, it is very much here. And just, you know, hearing this news today was incredibly sobering. It's not anything that I had not fathomed in some way, given how terrible he is as a human being and how much he's willing to sell out the U.S. government and the U.S. people for whatever will fill his coffers. But just the degree of treason, this ode to espionage, the trash that is Trump, it just keeps hitting. And the fact that there are people out there in the field right now who are working, to secure, hopefully maybe even getting some of this information, gathering more intel, or, you know, they are now put in jeopardy. It's a potential of lives out there of people who could be put at risk for harm because who knows who Trump has shared some of this information with. But we know that he had stolen this information. He's stolen documents. And as you noted,
Starting point is 00:09:51 jankies continued to push the system. And he has done it all under this protection of the fact that he is former president. And it is completely and utterly disheartening to see that our system continues to allow this man to run amok. And especially this man, what he talked a big game back in the day? What about being so tough on China? Also claiming to be tough on Iran. And it's clear that he is willing to compromise America's national security largely for his own financial gain, because I'm certain that's what he has at the end of the day. That is what he is doing this for. And it's utterly disgusting, but it's equally problematic if our government does nothing about it. Yeah. Yeah, and you said right there, you know, who knows who he shared
Starting point is 00:10:34 the documents with. We also don't know that he even knows who saw those documents. I mean, he just left them in boxes in a storage room that wasn't locked. Stuff about weapons technology and who and our spies are and how they operate. He doesn't even necessarily know who might of wandered from the ballroom over into that storage room, took a few little quick pictures and then, or took the documents and then walked away. Maybe they emptied out some folders. Maybe that's why they were empty folders. And the only thing I would add to what you said, Jank, was you sketched out the multiple
Starting point is 00:11:02 levels of this where he kept holding on to more documents. There is the one extra layer that the DOJ says they still haven't accounted for all the documents. They still think he has more. You talked about them loading the boxes onto the plane. We have no idea where those documents went. We might never find those. I mean, maybe the DOJ is wrong, or probably they're not, and God only knows where the documents are now.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Even after being raided and there's an investigation, he didn't turn over all the documents. Now, normally at this point, I would just move forward to these next couple of elements, but I want to ask a very serious question of the panel. Do we care about Donald Trump's response to this most recent development? I'm read it if you want, but I don't have to. Yeah, he, but the reason why it's relevant, John, is because remember, for the zombies, all the facts that we just gave you that are absolutely indisputable are irrelevant. They're just going to listen to the drivelings of their mad king that John's going to read for you now because I vote read it because guys, here's the thing you got to understand this about the zombies.
Starting point is 00:12:05 They genuinely think that what John's about to read you is true. Like, because a lot of people in D.C. think, oh, they don't really think that. No, they don't, they don't real. No. You're just projecting. No, they do actually believe this. And that's why it's so dangerous. Okay, yeah. Well, and look, one reason to believe that it could be true is I found it on a website called
Starting point is 00:12:25 Truth Social. Oh, well, there you go. So that sounds pretty reputable. So with that said, here's a truth. It's not a tweet. It's a truth. It's right there in the name. It's perfectly Orwellian.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Anyway, here is his response to this revelation, which is definitely true. He says the FBI and the Department of Justice, which paid a man $200,000 to spy me and offered a $1 million. bounty to try and prove a totally made up and fake dossier about me, they went down in flames, are now leaking non-stop on the document hoax to the fake news, who could ever trust corrupt weaponized agencies, and that includes NARA, who disrespects our Constitution of Bill of Rights to keep and safeguard any records. That doesn't even sound like him.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I don't think he wrote that part. But he goes on to say, they've lost millions and millions of pages of information from previous presidents. And then he decides, like, 50% of the time, he thinks that the other side planted stuff, and then 50% of the time he doesn't. Today's a planting day. And so Nera planted the documents in Mar-a-Lago, I guess. Or subtracted from documents.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I have been thinking about that all day, and I have no idea what he means by that. Yeah. What do you mean they subtracted from the, like, but then they're not missing it because they have it. And they can't claim that you had it since they subtracted it. So I don't know what that means. He doesn't know what that means. But to be fair to Trump, we've interviewed a lot of Trump fans. And they'd like that hodgepodge explanation.
Starting point is 00:13:54 They like things like that because one of them thinks, oh, they obviously planted it. And the other one thinks fake news, document hoax, it doesn't know what that means. The other one thinks, well, they of course they erase the documents. And you're like, but what does that mean? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to them. The god lords Trump said it, so it is the creed as such. And so they just cherry pick whichever one they want.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I mean, guys, think about it. The end of that quote was, we will never know, will we? Wait, if you didn't do anything wrong, you would know. And then you would tell people, especially you. You would tell everybody you didn't do anything wrong, right? Instead he ends it with, I guess we'll never know. No, that's what a guilty guy says. because he's like, I bet you can't find out, right?
Starting point is 00:14:42 But guys, this goes back to my thing about debating with the zombies. I think, and maybe I'm wrong, but I think the Department of Justice, the FBI, archives, you name it. Everyone who's charged with prosecuting this is scared out of their minds. And they're scared because, oh, what if Trump's zombie army attacks? And they say that we're not being fair enough. Did we actually delete negative minus the documents? I don't know what that means, right?
Starting point is 00:15:12 And so no, stop responding to them. It's like Albert Einstein debating with third graders about physics. And he's like taking them seriously. He's like, well, okay, what do you think equals? Right? No, there's zombies. Move on and force the law. Don't go an inch above the law.
Starting point is 00:15:29 That would be crazy. We don't want to do things that are wrong while we're trying to fight the bad guys. But you must have the courage to go forward and uphold the law. Adrian, last word. Yes, okay, so I will definitely say he did not write that little true social post because it was grammatically correct and I don't think there was a spelling error. So, and also the words were probably at what a New York Times, you know, 12th grade level. It's just not him.
Starting point is 00:15:57 But what also seems to very much be not him is being forthright in any way, which is very much how he plays things. But it is extremely, extremely apparent that DOJ is very concerned about actually pushing and moving forward. The leash that this man has is so incredibly long. Are they going to do anything in terms of Trump? Because the evidence is mounting up so much that how can you not start questioning the integrity of the Department of Justice when they have so much evidence against Trump, yet they are not doing anything? And I'm sure they are working on the case behind closed doors without a doubt. But my God, if anything, slap some handcuffs, perp walk him, do something that says to the American people that failing to follow the law will produce consequences
Starting point is 00:16:43 because otherwise he's still out here running him up, who knows what he's doing, who he's talking to. I'm sure he still has that Secret Service detail, but my God, I just don't trust anyone at this point in time. But I would hope to trust in our justice system that they will actually move forward with prosecuting him and maybe do it post haste. Yeah, you know what kind of the event, you guys convinced me that the back half is totally written by a lawyer and not him, because that's why they say, I guess we'll never know, will we? Because the lawyers know he's lying, so as a lawyer, they can't write down, it's fake,
Starting point is 00:17:18 it's wrong, they're lying, they can't write it down. So they refer to, I guess we'll never know, will we? Right, right guys? We have we created enough doubt? Yeah. Because that's how lawyers think, right? That's how defense counsel thinks. And at this point, there's only one place where, and I don't know how long this is going
Starting point is 00:17:38 to last, where you can't actually lie and get away with it. That's courts. If you go into court and you lie, there are consequences. Alex Jones kind of found that out, didn't he? Right? Are you going to just bring him into court? Just have him say anything. Have him say, good morning.
Starting point is 00:17:56 He'll lie. You'll bring him in on a Wednesday, but good morning, it's a Saturday. Okay, and I'll tell you what, this Saturday was erased by the National Archives, but I thought it and brought it back, okay? So just bring him into court, bring him into court, he's broken a half a dozen laws. Do your goddamn job, have the courage to stand up for our democracy. Yeah, well, they put out the actual subpoena form on the January 6th committee, so maybe it's not a court, but he would be under oath.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Okay, I think we should probably take our first break. When we come back, though, someone was brought into court earlier today, and it didn't go great for them. We'll give it the details after this. All right, back on TYT, Jank, John, and Adrian with you guys. John? We in fact do. Oh, sorry, no, I'm pulling it back right away. No, such a thing I do to John. You think I could be so hard to get going again? Yeah, you think I can do that to Anna? No, no, no, shoot. Okay, anyways, one covert ninja and Sarah Butler. We love you guys. They just became members. I just wanted to show love to the members. Sorry, John, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Yeah, look at what you did to me, members. I don't, what are we even talking about again? I don't remember. Let's go to the C block. Okay, fine, we can talk about Bannon. Steve Bannon was finally sentenced today, and it did not go well for him. Bear in mind before you hear the details, it was a Trump-appointed judge who sentenced him, and notably Donald Trump is not president anymore, and so no pardons are coming, at least for right now. Stay tuned for 2024. In any event, he was found guilty on two counts of contempt of Congress, and that has now
Starting point is 00:19:47 led to a four-month sentence, two technically, but running concurrently. So in theory, he'll serve four months in prison. He also has a fine of $6,500. But that does not mean that he is going to be in prison tonight. He is going to be able to appeal this. He has already said that he is going to. And while that appeals process plays out, he will be free. He apparently has a couple of weeks to actually file the appeal.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I don't know exactly how long it'll take for that entire process to play out. Perhaps Adrian will, my guess would be absolutely for a lot. I feel like it's going to take a year or two, and he's going to be perfectly fine. For all we know, he will be present for the next insurrection early January 2025. But stay tuned for that as well. In any event, the feds wanted more. They wanted six months rather than four. They wanted a $200,000 fine rather than just the $6,500, which I understand.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Steve Bannon's going to do an episode of his show. He's going to ask for his impoverished viewers to bail him out, which they will. they will give him their last cent, he will pay absolutely nothing. But he could, at least in the end, end up spending some time in prison. What do you think? Yeah, the $6,500 part is a joke. The guy has Seinfeld money, unfortunately. Like, he was literally a producer on Seinfeld.
Starting point is 00:21:08 And he talks about liberal media, he's got his anti-Semitism, et cetera. He made his money, almost all his money from Seinfeld. Let's just note that for the record. And then after making a gazillion knowledge from Seinfeld, he then robbed his own viewers of like a million bucks or whatever to build a wall and then bought like him and his friends bought like yachts and cars and because they think oh guys you got to understand the right wing is a giant neon sign to all con men come rob these folks okay so guys like con men like Steve Bannon go am I going to go to the left wing no they're smart I'm not
Starting point is 00:21:42 they'll never buy what I'm selling I'm just going to go rob the right wing right so that's what he's in the middle of doing and and despite all that 6,500 it's nothing okay Four months in prison. Okay, okay. I mean, he's going to try to drag it out. Why just survive back to school when you can thrive by creating a space that does it all for you, no matter the size. Whether you're taking over your parents' basement or moving to campus,
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Starting point is 00:22:35 Trump's gonna pardon everyone on his first day. Every January 6th rioter, everyone who got convicted of insurrection, it doesn't, he's gonna let him all go instantly, he's bane, okay? And, but the people watch, oh, no, that's too, he wouldn't do that, that's too much. on which planet, right? Which alternate universe? So no, he, so they got to get him in jail before then. But really, four months, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:23:03 The main thing is he has to actually comply with the subpoena. If he doesn't comply with this legal subpoena from Congress, and Adrian, I kick it to you because I don't know the answer to this. So if he serves four months, is he free to go? Then he doesn't have to answer Congress's question, or do you do it again? You've been do it again. Yeah, we're going back through this. Yeah, it's really, it's interesting because as much as the federal government really wanted to push the max here, you know, trying to get as much money as possible with a $200,000 fine, also seeking the six months,
Starting point is 00:23:36 four months is pretty strong for this kind of charge. It's just a matter of giving him the time to do what he wishes while he files this appeal. And I know that he has 14 days to do that. And then the D.C. federal court there, court of appeals, it's going to review it. And the thing is, is generally it's a chief judge of the court who disseminates cases. And who knows? Because that court there may not be down for the nonsense and may actually want to move things along. So I wouldn't be surprised that appeal was handled at somewhat of an expedited basis, if not having DOJ submit such a request, so that they could hopefully put ban in back in handcuffs and put him in jail. Because the more time that he spends away from actually facing consequences, the more opportunity he has to rile up Trump's base and to cause all sorts of chaos and to continue to threaten
Starting point is 00:24:29 our democracy. And the fact is that for anything to be a deterrent, it needs to be swift, severe, and certain. And here there was some certainty. It wasn't as swift as possible. And there is just a little bit of severity. And the DOJ, the government really needs to step up as well as the court system, even though I can to some extent kind of give a tip of a hat here in terms of what they did. Yeah, if I can just add one little element, last element of me being Buzz Killington, on them potentially doing it again if he doesn't respond to the subpoena at that point, let's bear in mind that we can we can hypothesize about whether Trump might be present in 2024 to pardon him, but it is looking extremely unlikely that there will be a January 6th commission
Starting point is 00:25:11 in four, five, six months, even existing to still have a subpoena out for. Yeah, John, actually, it's funny you said that because I was going to say a variation of that. I realized as we were talking, wait a minute, he doesn't have to wait until 2024. It's possible that if the Republicans win the House in 2022, which is actually very likely now, that they'll just come and go, what's subpoena? Yeah. We're Congress now, and we don't want him to testify. So this is a moot issue.
Starting point is 00:25:41 So now the crime happened in the past. So I think they have to still prosecute that. But again, I go to Adrian here because I'm not positive. Would that materially help his appeal if the new Congress goes, nah, we don't want him to testify? Well, the court could consider it if they wanted to, to some extent to argue that to some extent that this is moot. But the fact is that he's already gone through the criminal justice system. And so it is in the hands of the criminal justice system and the court of appeals will make that judgment based on whether he complied and what he did what he needed to do. It's just it's so incredibly sad, as you've noted, the thought that the house ends up flipping, then there's not going to be any continuation.
Starting point is 00:26:24 There's not going to be any accountability. And it's just, it's just, I'm just really bummed about that. Oh, no, I just saw the future and it ain't pretty. So Congress could easily, if the Republicans were in the House, they could easily do it was in Trump. will put a lot of pressure on them to do this, say, hey, we don't want the subpoena anymore. And then they finish up the case because that case is about things that happened in the past. Adrian just explained to you what the law is, so they'd have to actually put him in prison. And when they do, Goebbels, I mean Tucker Carlson and the other right wing media will scream, political prisoner, political prisoner.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Oh my God, Congress says they don't want him to testify, but they're putting him into prison because he wouldn't testify to Congress. Oh my God. And then they'll do good courtiers. Oh, they enforce the law as the right wigger. Oh, right? And they'll try to take the mantle of victim and in favor of freedom. And they'll paint the Democrats as the fascists. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:19 And by the way, we just saw the poll. Guys, things are in disastrous shape. Earlier this week where they asked who's the biggest, a major threat to democracy. Okay, Trump came in at 45%, but Biden came in at 38%. And you're like, What? Why? Why? Why would Grandpa Joe's barely awake a threat to democracy? Didn't he attack the Capitol? I don't, somebody did.
Starting point is 00:27:40 No, by the way, I mean, there was a poll where a majority of Republicans, like a massive majority of Republicans, thought it was Biden's fault that the Capitol got a tie. Okay, no, guys, they don't live on this planet. They're, we're trying to debate zombies. I'm telling you, they don't live in this reality. So they think Biden did January 6th, Trump is perfectly innocent, and that the Democrats are a threat to democracy because they bother to count the votes and then recount them and audit them and then go to court and verify them. And they say, oh, yeah, that's how you steal democracy by counting the votes. No, you don't count the votes. Today, Tucker Carlson is saying Carrie Lake's victory will be legitimate only if she wins. Carrie Lake, if you lose, will you say you lost? Nope. Nope. Nope. They're coming for democracy. So you got to enforce the law. I could tell you to go vote for Democrats, not because they're great, but as usual, because the other side is now significantly fascist. But me saying it isn't going to make a difference. It's a giant country. Democratic leadership sucks. They didn't make their case. We're in bad times.
Starting point is 00:28:52 100%. Well, why don't we turn to another topic? Maybe a few more of those zombies you were talking about, but whenever you're ready, we can launch right in this first video. I don't think they're going and gone at all. So those were protesters who showed up at this town hall, being immediately counter protested by several women standing in front of them.
Starting point is 00:29:49 They were fired up about a lot of different stuff. There were some signs about UN conspiracy theories to get rid of humans or something. They apparently had a problem with her support for the LGBTQ community, saying that only people who are heterosexual should be allowed to have homes or something. One woman shouted out, there are only two effing genders, I guess. In any event, that went on for a while, and it was obviously impossible for her to have the actual town hall, which was supposed to be about a number of different topics, including marijuana legalization, crime, a number of other topics.
Starting point is 00:30:27 She apparently got frustrated, I guess, and this is how she ended up responding. And that was the dance that exploded every right wing head in the world. I almost said white wing, but it's the same thing, whatever. They did not like that at all. They were freaking out about it. We're going to get to some of the responses, but maybe we can pause here for a second. Should she have done the dance, or was she being uncouth? Is this a question?
Starting point is 00:31:06 Is this really a question? I don't debate zombies. She can dance to anything she likes. Okay, they had a decent beat, to be fair to the zombies. Yeah. Okay, and her supporters had already started chanting another thing with it, right? So she's also, in essence, chanting with the supporters, but I don't debate zombies. There was, I couldn't, if you gave me 10 years to think of what was wrong with that clip,
Starting point is 00:31:28 I'd be like, the plant doesn't match the other plant and the other drawing. What, what are we talking about? What is wrong with this clip? I don't understand anything, right? And they're like, can you believe she danced a little bit? She moved her body. How can she do that? Are we against dancing now?
Starting point is 00:31:45 Is this now the footloose era of the zombies? Okay. And by the way, you remember those fake progressive peace activists that went to her town hall the other day that were Republicans? People are like, no, no, they could have been on the left. And these could be, these people could be peace activists. They could be on the left. I mean, they hate, there's only two genders, only two genders, but they could be on the left. You never know.
Starting point is 00:32:09 We're still doing these debates? Is that, am I? Come on, come on, you're all embarrassing. I think these ones are explicitly supporters of the woman who's running against AOC technically. Yeah, the other ones were explicitly right wingers trolling you. If you fell for that and thought they were progressives, super embarrassing. Okay, Adrian. Yeah, no, absolute and utter joke.
Starting point is 00:32:34 But yeah, no, AOC can move to a beat because it's like if you're gonna give me a beat, I'm gonna serve it. So here we go. Well, I was like, come on, you brought the party. So let's go ahead and get this done. You know, if you want less from me, give me less. But otherwise, I worked what you gave me to work with. And so I fully respect AOC for moving to the beat and having a good time making the most out of it. You know, lemons, lemonade.
Starting point is 00:32:58 So I'm a fan. Exactly. Okay, so let's get to some demonstrations of the insanity I was talking about. You've now seen AOC's dance. Okay, now right wingers aren't going to like it. We understand that going in. But I want you to take a look at what a newsmax host said about it. And you tell me if it makes one look a sense.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I don't know if we need to do a wellness check on AOC or if we can actually make fun of this. She might have some mental health issues there. But let's just pretend she's saying for the sake of the argument here, which is the cringier moment, her Ricky Ricardo impersonation or her dance moves? I don't know what we live in different galaxies. This is the multiverse. I don't know what they saw. But multiverses have connected.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Like we've accidentally intersected. It's an incursion in the language of Marvel. Yeah, because we all just saw the same video. Everything's a Rorschach test now. Okay, we got a bigger one later in the show. But that guy sees the unhinged right winger, he'll, there's only two gender, and he thinks, oh, that's a person who's reasonable. And he sees AOC going dancing like this to their beat.
Starting point is 00:34:04 And he's like, is she insane? I mean, what do you do with them? Am I supposed to debate it? Adrian. Yeah, you know, from that man's nonsense, it's clear he doesn't season his food and how he was so affected by her dancing. It is not something that is called within his ministry. It offends him and upsets him and that's a him issue. But the thing that is a bigger issue and such a great issue is how AOC was coming out and speaking on behalf on left lifting support to the LGBTQ plus community and speaking on
Starting point is 00:34:37 a half of rights and uplifting. And I saw a number of people on Twitter today very much uplifting AOC in the reality that she's out there using her voice to stand up and yet people are coming to try to tear her down in the process of trying to tear down, whether it's trans rights or gay rights. And it's just incredibly, incredibly pathetic that they're willing to lie about her dancing and this entire video and everything we've seen simply to try to distort and really kind of detract from her message. And it's just, it's laughable, all of it. Yeah. Well, this next bit we're going to show you also laughable, but more in a sad way. It won't actually make you laugh. You'll know why as soon as
Starting point is 00:35:19 you see this person's face. But here is what Dave Rubin had to say about AOC briefly dancing a little. Listen, I'm AOC. I'm standing here. Nobody likes me. The jig is up. The grift is up. People are getting it. Nobody likes the woke. I don't know, my accent just severely changed in the middle of that. Look, everyone's had it with the wokesters. I hope and pray that her district flips. There is a chance. There's a chance all over the place. New York might flip with Lee Zeldon over Hocel. I mean, everything is up in the air right now. And I think the one way that we can really model in America going forward sort of based on some of the principles of freedom that are happening right here in Florida is that we're going to have to basically say, you know what? That moment where the squad took over and the racism took over and the drag queens and all of this stuff took over, it's in the mirror now, it's in the back mirror and
Starting point is 00:36:12 we can say a, oh, see you later. Oof. Deeply sad. I know that I disagree with him, so I'm supposed to like delight in him making an utter fool of himself, but it just, I'm too much of a lib, I guess, too much of a lefty. It just hurts me deep in the stomach to see him embarrassing himself like that. on a daily basis. Guys,
Starting point is 00:36:35 A-O-C-U later? Oh, Jesus. That's so bad. Okay. Hungry now. Now? What about now? Whenever it hits you,
Starting point is 00:36:53 wherever you are, grab an O. Henry bar to satisfy your hunger. With its delicious combination of big, crunchy, salty peanuts, It's covered in creamy caramel and chewy fudge with a chocolatey coating. Swing by a gas station and get an O'Henry today. Oh, hungry, oh Henry. So the accent, now to be fair, because we're the fairest show in America, AOC did do an accent.
Starting point is 00:37:19 So I want to give you that context because you didn't see it in the video, okay? But that doesn't give Dave Rubin a right to do an accent of folks he doesn't agree with and wants to make fun of. Whatever accent that was. whatever that was. And he's like, oh, my accent changed the middle. Did it? What was that? So, and he, but the reason he does that is because the right wing thinks, oh, people
Starting point is 00:37:41 say Dave Rubin, is it funny? Look at how he made fun of Latinos. I had a big laugh. Ha, ha, ha, we laugh at you. But when there's supposed to be a punch line, for them, the racism is the punchline. Okay, so every part of them is super embarrassing. You remember when Dave Rubin used to pretend. to be a classical liberal or whatever he was saying. Now he's blaming AOC because she's racist.
Starting point is 00:38:09 I mean, this, he's not even trying to make sense. And so he was in a sense, again, to be fair to him, he was the original Tulsi Gabbard. He was the first one to come on and go, yeah, I'm on the left, but I got to tell you, man, the left really bothers me. The right is so correct. Then he bought literally a $6 million house. Okay, when he was working here, ain't a number guy I got $6 million. Okay, where do you get that money from? He's the least funny, least entertaining,
Starting point is 00:38:37 least interesting host in America. Where the hell did you get the money from, Dave? Man, selling out, unfortunately, pays a lot. But then you've got to do this. You have to dance for them. And it's like, John's right, it's gut wrenching. I don't even want to see my worst enemy have to dance for the right wing like that.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And something also that kind of really just, does Dave Rubin know what his voice sounds like besides the whole terrible accent? Like, it's like, is this really what you want to do? You want to try to fiend some type of Latin accent in some way? Like he should just not speak in its entirety. Like I don't know, give me some base in the boy. Do something because it's just not working for me. So, you know, it's like the little racism thing is cute, but even aside from that, I just just would prefer his silence. That's all I have. Yeah, I'll second that. I want to play one more
Starting point is 00:39:32 video. I know we don't have much time, but only because everybody's going to see her dance. And a lot of people are going to see a variety of different right wingers losing their mind. God only knows what Ben Shapiro is going to say about her dancing right there. But what they, what generally a lot of people will not see is that they will take all of that and then say, oh look, she's unpopular. Her constituents don't like her. She can't talk substance. They won't show you what happened after that protest. When she finally did get back, Abel, once they quieted down a bit, to talk about what people came to the town hall to actually talk about. And so let's see her talk substance and see whether her constituents actually support her. What we did in the Bronx
Starting point is 00:40:09 is that anyone who got admitted from a gunshot wound, a stab wound, etc., immediately got flagged for the stand-up to violence program. And here's what we did. We brought on only not just a doctor to stitch the person up we brought in a social worker we brought in mentors we brought in housing specialists and you know what we found we brought in psychiatrists
Starting point is 00:40:32 we brought in psychologists all of us you know what we've done here's what we found here's a fact we reduce reoccurrence of crime by more than 50% you can be able
Starting point is 00:40:45 Yeah, let's get you a good time, let's get you a good time, let's get you a job. You want to go to the clip the right wing doesn't want you to see. Of course, why are they attacking her? Because she's unpopular? No, they're attacking her because she's popular. And that's because she's really, really good at this, good at policy, good at speaking about policy, good at energizing people. That's why they attack her 24-7. If you see them attacking someone, understand that they view that person as a threat.
Starting point is 00:41:30 They're a threat because they're standing up for you and for truth and yes, for justice. Yeah. And so it was so good to see just, you know, because they are attacking her because not only she good, but she's effective. Yeah. And so hearing the talk about the success rate of the changes that they made in the investment that she made in to her community there, like her constituents were on fire and they were so incredibly happy. And that's the kind of stuff I want to see more of, even if the right wing wants to focus on the fact that she can hold a beat. Okay, I think it's time for a second break. We come back though. Lots of more to get to. Don't go anywhere. All right, back on TOT, Jenk, John and Adrian with you guys. Well, one of our super chat folks wrote in, I think this is a very important point, so I wanted to read it to you guys. Brookhouse Mama 98 said, I agree with Jenk.
Starting point is 00:42:37 John's hair looks like he's cosplaying Don Johnson. Yes, yes, beautiful hair. Saddie Crockett, I was done to bring out. So, so soon your John Johnson face, bro. You're putting the John and Johnson, it's killing me. Okay, I'm gonna have to Google some of this once the show is done, because I don't. I told her, you look, you look like John Johnson. Okay, I want to be very clear.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I didn't do anything to my head. Oh, gosh, sure, sure. That's all it is. I didn't do anything. Okay, Brighouse Mama, if you remember, Hon. Hollis for a gift card. If I can find you, I'm taking it back. You don't get a gift card.
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Starting point is 00:43:25 $100-100 gift cards tonight on the bonus episode for members. All right, John, what's next? Nothing good. Nothing good. Let's jump into this. People who neither discovered nor built this land have been led to believe that America is theirs and theirs alone. Once again, calling out a specific race by name.
Starting point is 00:43:45 What does this look like in a year or five years or ten years? What kind of country do you live in? Well, a country at war with itself, race war. It is Wednesday's monologue from Tucker Carlson, who decided to focus on Tiffany Cross of MSNBC. She rightly points out that America is not the sole property of white people. And through Tucker logic, that becomes Tiffany Cross wants to murder all white people. It gets even more explicitly racist, if that's possible, in this. Look, a lot of folks in that capital insurrection, some of these folks were white women.
Starting point is 00:44:23 What do you say about this wing of white women who have been radicalized and are enablers to this very dangerous domestic terrorism movement that we've seen increased quite rapidly? So as such as whites, it's white women. Their women are bad too. Women, of course, are the key to reproducing the white race, which is clearly a threat, as she says again and again, to you and your family. They're dangerous. They want to hurt you.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Now, don't be fooled by the fact that Tiffany Cross can barely speak a coherent sentence. She was a communications major. Apparently, according to the internet, that didn't work. I don't know Tiffany Cross. I don't know her politics. I don't see what possible problem he could have had with her ability to articulate her own thoughts in that clip, except that you know exactly why he made that criticism. She is objectively right that many of the people in that crowd on January 6th were women.
Starting point is 00:45:19 She's right in the broader point that white women have been throughout history, active participants in upholding white supremacy, including white male patriarchy. That is simply indisputable. Tucker Carlson doesn't want you to focus on that reality, that indisputable, reality. And so instead he turns it to talking about white women's need to perpetuate the white race. Why a cable news host is talking in that way might on its surface not make any sense. But if you maybe spent a couple of years spending time at storm front or on some of the darker parts of 4chan, you're probably familiar with that sort of language. Tucker Carlson
Starting point is 00:45:56 and his writing team definitely are. And so now you don't need to go to those explicitly white supremacist websites to get your fill of absolutely horrific racism. You can just put on Fox News every single night and you'll hear the exact same sorts of monologues you used to have to go to a KKK rally for to hear. Now you just hear it on Tucker. Yeah, I am going to show you a couple of slides that he did that are really interesting, but I want to go to Adrian first for rash. Yes, John, as you had noted, the whole thought that Tiffany Cross can't formulate
Starting point is 00:46:29 sentences. They love to do that to black people, particularly this thought. that we're not quote unquote articulate, also phrasing that I hate. But also noticing this whole thought that that black people are instigating a race war or planning for a race war, they're essentially trying to set this up in some way so that his viewers think that they need to strike first. And that's the dangerous part because it's essentially a call to action of are you going to let this person do it first or are you going to go ahead and get the jump on them. And so I think this is Tucker Carlson trying to create a situation in which he can go
Starting point is 00:47:07 ahead and really instigate some type of race war. And he's using Tiffany Cross's conversation on her show as the means by which to get it done. Yeah, so two things. So first of all, before I even get into the breakdown of all this, editor's note is that I'm no fan of MSNBC. I'm literally banned from MSNBC. I think MSNBC is a graveyard of progressive. that they're the biggest progressive killers in all of cable news. So I got no love for them. Now let's be honest with you guys about what actually what you actually saw there, okay? So Tiffany Cross said this wing of white women who have been radicalized.
Starting point is 00:47:48 So she was specific, not all white women, this wing of white women who have been radicalized. Tucker Carlson came back and said, she said all white women. Now, the audience actually heard the clip, right? But when he frames it in a different way, it erases their memory of that. And they go, yes, she said all white women, she hates us all, right? So that's slight a hand number one. Then he's claiming she's racist because she mentioned a race as part of a larger sentence. Okay, right?
Starting point is 00:48:20 And then he says, oh, she's supposedly in communications. But guys, you've seen clips. Now here, let's, let me go as, first of all, look at Hershal Walker. Okay, the guy can't speak, right? So if he said about Herschel Walker, he's having issues speaking. I'd say, okay, you want to take it about a Democrat? No problem. There's a famous clip of Al Sharpton on line, right?
Starting point is 00:48:41 And he screwed up the prompter and it looks ridiculous. And if you go, ha ha, it looks like he can't speak. You say there's at least a plausible logical connection, right? I don't agree. He screwed up the prompter, but plausible, right? But you saw Tiffany Cross with your own eyes. You heard her with your own ears. what she said was perfectly coherent.
Starting point is 00:49:01 There wasn't a hint of anything being wrong with what she said. But you know, you know, as if they can speak. Oh, okay. Then the most important slide of hand, although actually there's two giant ones. One is, you see how they're starting a race war? No, I don't. No, she didn't say anything about a race war. You said race war.
Starting point is 00:49:25 She didn't say it at all. She didn't come close to saying it. She said she's worried about a wing that is radicalized. And then the radicalized wing comes out and goes, you see how she wants a race for? Let's get based. The implied sentence after that is, let's give her one. Okay. So now the second one that's gigantic.
Starting point is 00:49:44 And you see the sleight of hands right in front of you. You can even rewind and watch it, right? Tiffany Cross didn't say any in that short segment that he played or in the longer segment. I watched it. Anything about reproducing. But he said, oh, he's now they're going after white women. Why? Because they're the ones that reproduce.
Starting point is 00:50:05 And he said, that's why she's saying they're a threat to you over and over again. She never said they were a threat to you because they reproduced. You just made that up out of whole cloth. Reproduce, what the hell does that have to do with this conversation? Because he's trying to get you to think, oh, no. And now they don't want us to reproduce. They're trying to kill us all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:28 They're trying to get rid of us. This is the white replacement theory. And he's, and then he has plausible deniability. Not for you and me, we're smart enough to figure it out. It's so, to us is super obvious. He's got plausible deniability for people who want to believe him. Yep. So they go, oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Technically he didn't say that. Technically, he said she was starting the race war. I mean, we had to strike first because they were going to come and get our women and our mothers. and they're and but he didn't hey hey and he didn't say white replacement theory he just mentioned that the white women reproduce and they won't be able to reproduce anymore because of Tiffany cross and then what were we supposed to do we had to take action which side is violent which one isn't you can take you can go all day long about that one guy at the softball field 2,000 other cases are all right wing right and then they keep saying second
Starting point is 00:51:20 amendment remember you're coming for you don't let him come for you. No, this guy is, it's ironic because he mentions Rwanda later. This is Rwanda level propaganda. Guys, this is, the fascists aren't coming. They're right here. You just saw him. That was scary, massive demagoguery propaganda. Yeah. I'm super worried about it. It's just telling your audience of millions of people, they're coming for your white women. I'd love to know is that this whole rhetoric, what we're describing, accusation in the mirror, where you're basically accusing the left of wanting to start a race war to do these terrible things, that in fact, that the right actually wants to do and kind of that goading thing,
Starting point is 00:52:06 that that was first identified as messaging used in the Rwandan genocide. So to hear that Tucker Carlson is referencing the Rwandan genocide and clearly using the same messaging, It's like they are not hiding the ball at all. They are studying the past and the history of people who murdered, slaughtered, and killed people and exterminated people as though they were not human beings. He knows what he's doing, he's reading the research and he is regurgitating the dialogue. So he is calling these minions home, so to speak, so that they end up doing his bidding. This is incredibly dangerous.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Yeah. Yeah, and I'll just briefly, like, here's a hypothetical for you. Imagine if you found out that they did an internal review, And Tiffany Cross, the producer that writes up her monologue every night that types out the thing that she's going to say. We find out that Tiffany Cross's producer has been for literally years living an alternate life online on the most racist anti-white websites possible, calling people crackers and stuff like that for literally years. Imagine what we found out that. Imagine what Tucker would say about Tiffany Cross and her show and MSNBC, except that this is only kind of a hypothetical. because that's what happened to Tucker Carlson.
Starting point is 00:53:19 We found out that his producer who wrote his monologues was using the most explicit racist language online for literally years, amongst other misogyny and all anti-semitism, all that stuff. And they fired him, Tucker Carlson went for a short bass fishing trip and then came back and you never heard anything about it again. And he gives explicitly racist monologues literally every single night. But again, it's Tiffany Cross that has some sort of problem. Yeah, so I just want to be clear about one thing.
Starting point is 00:53:46 We are not like them ever, okay? So I want to be clear with our audience. Do not fall into any of their baiting. Don't strike first, okay? We don't, like they're, he's a comic book villain at this point. It's unbelievable. I mean, as I watched it, I thought, oh, I get it now. Hitler would have never won without Goebbels.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Because you have, you have to get that third of the country that is in a mood to do anything and everything. And that's what he's doing every single night on the air. And so it, guys, we're in a super scary situation. But we don't strike for us. That's not what we do. We don't act out. We don't do things that are physical or violent in any way, okay? If they do it, we have to uphold the law, okay?
Starting point is 00:54:33 And you do it through a legal process. You don't get individual anti-violence. Number one, because it is immoral and wrong and unprogressive. And number two, because that's exactly what they want. Once things decay into vigil anti-violence, that's a right-wing's dream come true. So do not ever go in that direction. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:55 If anything, call fake pocket. Why'd you have to do that? Okay, I love it. Damn it. All right. Buzz in my head when I get home. No, no, I'm sorry, guys. We've got to do with this real quick.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Last story? Yeah, last story. It's as quickly as we can. Okay, I'm going to speak so I'm going to speak Shapiro fast. Okay, get ready for this. Parents in Grant Michigan have absolutely lost their minds as a As a result of a high schooler who was brought on to paint a mural for the, I think the public health sector of their high school, we're gonna give you their responses.
Starting point is 00:55:48 But first, so that you can properly assess the response, here is the actual mural. A young sophomore girl was brought on to paint that. It shows doctors who are animals. It shows students, it has a heart that's been patched. But you might notice, oh dear God, rainbow leggings. in 2022, someone who has a trans flag on their shirt, well, that won't stand. And the vigilant parents of that area are not going to let Evelyn Gonzalez get away with this. They lost their minds.
Starting point is 00:56:21 And here are some of the things they said. One man called the mural discrimination against Christian beliefs saying it's hate material. You know, the mural with the rabbit doctor is hate material. Another woman blasted the inclusion of the transgender flag saying, when adults pretend things that are like real life, it's a mental illness. We need counselors, we need medication that's going to help bipolar disorder fix their brains. In a nation that is full of people her age who believe that every Democrat eats babies, that JFK Jr is alive and well amongst us, that Robin Williams has been brought back from the dead
Starting point is 00:56:59 to run as the next Republican president, that Trump definitely won the 2020 election. Yes, it's the high schoolers who need to get their brains fixed. Let's see, Evelyn Gonzalez responded to this at a meeting, there's a school board meeting that she was forced to defend her art at, saying, I put my art up there to make people feel welcome. Her explanation was not accepted by the parents. And eventually she fled the meeting in tears. After which, a parent decided to do a little victory dance saying,
Starting point is 00:57:28 I feel like she did a really good job finding excuses to defend the things she put on, None of us are that stupid. Yeah, I agree to disagree. Yeah, you guys are lunatics. So you want to pick on a little girl who drew rainbows and happy people? You goddamn bullies, you monsters. You're bullying little girls now in schools, making them cry and go home and saying, oh, we saw your secret plans and your secret drawings.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Your goddamn lunatics. You've lost your mind. And you're talking about that innocent little girl fixing her brain. to a third of the country should fix their brain. Jesus Christ, guys, put up the picture of the mural. Because this is a perfect roar shock test. What do you see? I see smiling people.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I see a young school girl who drew things that were super pleasant. The Republicans now see the devil. They literally said this was satan. said this was satanic. You see the hand that stands for peace and stuff in the left hand corner? I mean like they're like, oh, what did you mean by that? Oh, that looks like it's Arabic. There's something wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I see Satan everywhere in this picture. That's what the right wing thinks. They've lost their goddamn minds. So all right, I mean, look, if you see Satan in that picture, okay, all right, you're not one of us. Go good luck with your life. I don't know how you function. I don't know how you put one census after another. I don't know how you hold down a job.
Starting point is 00:59:07 But if you saw Satan in that picture, you're a God damn lunatic. The rest of us see a perfectly lovely picture of people trying to get along. But it is a war shock test. Maybe you could try it at home, try it over Thanksgiving. What do you see here, right? Where you're just like, yeah, Satan. Satan. I mean, there's a, they even criticize stay healthy.
Starting point is 00:59:27 They're like, oh, doctors, yeah, right, we know they're propaganda. Like there's some candidate that's supporting Tulsa that Tulsa Gabbard endorsed some lunatic. It says the doctors are evil now. How do you talk to these people? No, no, I mean, this is super dangerous times. A third of the country has lost their goddamn minds. I agree. Some people, it just really seems that they need to have their eyes gouged out because they are not using them appropriately.
Starting point is 00:59:56 It's just, it's incredibly pathetic to see how they would attack this child off of this mural, which is very warm and welcoming and that's so incredibly it just it's heartwarming to know that this child is already thinking in this inclusive mindset about let me include other people I want to make sure that they know that they belong here and giving people that sense of belonging and yet these parents are willing to rip that away. It's just it's really disgusting and super weird and I just oh the US sucks. Yeah guys just to be clear because we are every time that's a metaphor no one You should gouge anyone's eyes, okay? Don't strike first on gouging out eyes.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Yes, and don't do it at all, okay? And now let me be clear, if you bully little girls like that with your lunatic ravings, you're a monster. Get mental health counseling for all of our sakes. Okay, we gotta go. Adrian, you're awesome, everybody to check her out at Rebel Headquarters, she's amazing. John does damage report, I don't know why I do that every time, it's a great, great show. check out damage report uh and uh we're going to take a quick break here and come back
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