The Young Turks - Death & Desecration

Episode Date: December 28, 2023

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You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Woo! It's up! What's up, everyone, welcome to TYT. I'm your host, Anna Kasparian, and I am sad to report today that we don't have a lot of light news stories in the rundown today. It is a heavy news day. We have been off on holiday vacation. to celebrate the holidays, but during that time, a lot of news broke, a lot of heavy, depressing news broke that I think is important to fill you all in on. But I promise it will be

a good show, it will be an informative show. And later on in the first hour, Jank Ugar will be joining us to give us updates on his presidential campaign. As you all know, he's running in the Democratic primary. It is a long shot campaign, but nonetheless, his objectives with this campaign are important, including fighting for the ability of naturalized citizens to run for president in the United States. So they're no longer treated as second class citizens. So we'll get to that later in the second segment of this hour. But we begin with updates on the war on Gaza because the situation on the ground has not improved at all over the last several days. In fact, Israel is intensifying its military operations despite calls for more targeted military

operations in the strip. So I want to give you updates on that and more. Let's get started. In Gaza itself, hospitals are overrun with the injured and the dead. The World Health Organization says almost all the hospitals in the Gaza Strip have now stopped functioning. There's blood everywhere in these hospitals at the moment. We're seeing almost only trauma cases come through the door.

And at a scale that's quite difficult to believe, it's a bloodbath, as we, as we said before, it's carnage. After raiding and bombing refugee camps in northern Gaza, the Israeli defense forces have now moved on to doing the same in central Gaza. And let's not pretend as though they're not also engaging in aerial bombardments in the south, where they had. previously told Palestinians to evacuate two for safety. Now Israel's offensive is one of the most devastating military campaigns in recent history. More than 20,900 Palestinians, two-thirds women and children have been killed, and that's according to the health ministry in Gaza. That is actually, despite what Israel will say, a very conservative estimate of the number of people

who have perished in the Gaza Strip, it does not include the number of people who have perished in the Gaza Strip. It does not include the number of Palestinians who remain trapped under the rubble following aerial bombardments of the Gaza Strip, following aerial bombardments of residential buildings, of refugee camps, of hospitals, and more. Let me give you the rest of that graphic where the UN Human Rights Office said the continued bombardment of Middle Gaza had claimed more than 100 Palestinian lives since Christmas Eve. Now, that number is very likely to have risen since the report came out by the Associated Press. But things have gotten worse for Palestinians struggling to stay alive. In fact, the Associated Press reports that residents in central Gaza described intense and lethal artillery shelling and air strikes in refugee camps, including Nusirat, Maghazi, and Burejj camps. Now, let's take a look at the next video, which will give you some more.

information about the attacks on these refugee camps and the number of civilians who have perished as a result. At the Burij camp in central Gaza, these families are on the move again, heating Israeli warnings to evacuate. But safety in Gaza is hard to find. Riyadh Abdul Salam said even evacuating is dangerous. They threw leaflets at us and told us to get out with our hands above our heads. They shot F-16 bullets and rounds of gunfire around us. We have been forced out. The continued Israeli strikes hit even so-called safe zones.

Mariam al-Amsi has lived through decades of conflict. 75 years of suffering, our rights taken, our country seized, and our people slaughtered. And as fighting in Gaza rages on, the death toll keeps rising. Mainly women and children, some so little, and so little. so stunned, they don't cry out in pain. Across Gaza, there's no shortage of pain. This boy cries out for a loved one and gives a final kiss. Goodbye. The footage toward the end of that video absolutely broke me this morning. I don't know how anyone can see these scenes and think, no, no, this is totally justified. This is totally okay.

And no place in the Gaza Strip is safe. As you heard in that video, they're also doing aerial bombardments of the South. And Israel has taken complete responsibility for that with absolutely no remorse. In an area Israel had declared a safe zone, a strike hit a home in Moasi, a rural area in the southern province of Khan Yunus. One woman was killed and at least eight were wounded, according to a cameraman working for the Associated Press at the nearby hospital. In response, Israel's military said that it wouldn't refrain from operating in safe zones if it identifies terrorist organization activity threatening the security of Israel. And according to Israel's far right government, everyone in the Gaza Strip, every single

Palestinian has been radicalized. So in their eyes, every single person living in the Gaza Strip is a target, is a threat to Israel's safety. And you're going to hear from a spokespeople from Netanyahu's government making that claim in just a moment. Now, many of the Palestinians being told to evacuate had already evacuated from the north to the south, hoping for safety, and that is not what they got. The Israeli military ordered residents to evacuate a belt of territory, the width of central Gaza, urging them to move to nearby Der al-Bala.

The UN humanitarian office said the area ordered evacuated was home to nearly 90,000 people before the war, and now shelters more than 61,000 displaced people, mostly from the north. But again, as we know, even they're not safe, even though they went to this area for safety. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also continues to humiliate the American government as the Biden administration continues to claim that they are urging Netanyahu's government and the IDF to do something to minimize the number of civilian casualties and engage in more strategic and targeted strikes against Hamas. And the AP notes that Netanyahu continues to mock the United States on the international stage, essentially embarrassing our government, embarrassing the American people. Netanyahu said the military was deepening the fighting. The Washington Post reported similar statements from Netanyahu.

The war isn't close to finish, Netanyahu said, during a visit to Gaza Monday. We are expanding the fight in the coming days, he said in comments released by his Lakud party, this will be a long battle. This coming from a prime minister who back in 2015 said, if you vote for me, if you keep me in office, I will prevent the formation of a Palestinian state. A statement that he repeated in recent weeks to the press, isn't it so great that I prevented the formation of a Palestinian state?

Now further, this further highlights the embarrassment that the United States has become on the world stage. And I don't say that with any glee. I don't say that as if it's something to be proud of. I'm embarrassed by it. I'm embarrassed that our government continues to fund their military operations, continues to provide a 2,000 pound bunker buster bombs that are terrorizing innocent civilians in the Gaza Strip. And I'm embarrassed that we have an incredibly weak, pathetic government that claims that they're urging Netanyahu to rain things in a little bit, but he refuses to do it, and we continue to support him.

Now, Israel's lack of self-awareness was on full display during an exchange on CNN when an Israeli spokeswoman by the name of Tal Hendrick was challenged on the military operations and clear disregard for civilian lives. In years prior, it would be rare to see this kind of exchange on CNN. And I want to give, you know, the anchors here a lot of credit, especially Kilar, who's going to push back against some of the claims made by the spokesman. Let's watch. This ideology is also very much rooted in the Palestinian society. You know, they're raising generation after generation to believe that there's no hope and that there's so-called refugees of wars that they themselves started. Tall, look at the pictures coming out of Gaza.

Tall, when you see those pictures coming out of Gaza, do you see why some people don't have hope looking at those pictures? Well, we are in the middle of the war that Israel did not start and did not want. Well, when I look at all, it is prosecuting it forcefully, and you see the pictures here. First, Hamas must be gone, and then we hope that the Palestinian society will de-radicalize. And we can't have, you know, what our troops are finding right now on the ground in certain neighborhoods in Gaza, pictures of children, women with guns, Hamas uniform tailored for children, and a Hamas terrorist that we have arrested just admitted on record. Does that make the children, does that make the

children justifiable enemies to you? It does make them justifiable enemies to them. I mean, she hated the pushback and denied the claims that Israel sees the children as justifiable targets for their military operations, but actions speak louder than words. I mean, what do we call this when the IDF is bombing hospitals, making them inoperable? Okay, not a single hospital in the Gaza Strip right now has the functionality necessary to treat wounded patients. What exactly are we supposed to call this when they are intentionally, and with zero remorse, bombing refugee camps knowing full well that those refugee camps have innocent civilians within it.

Simply claiming, oh, Hamas uses them as human shields isn't good enough to justify the airstrikes that they continue to do, the shelling that they continue to engage in. What exactly do we call it when a mother and daughter within a church are walking to a bathroom and they are shot and killed by Israeli snipers in the Gaza Strip? What exactly would we refer to that as? Were those two women, the mother and daughter, were they allegedly Hamas militants? What exactly do we call that? What exactly are we supposed to say?

It is pathetic the number of people in this country and in the UK, to be quite frank, who provide cover for what the IDF is currently doing in the Gaza Strip. And then they have the audacity to claim that, well, you know, all these Arab countries that are fired up about this, All these Arab countries who are concerned about Palestinian civilians, why don't they do the right thing and help Israel in their ethnic cleansing and take the refugees into their own countries? Why don't they absorb the refugees into their own countries? For any American making that claim, hey, the United States government, you know, loves to moan and groan about the treatment of Venezuelans in Venezuela. Why doesn't the United States government just absorb the Venezuelan refugees that we're so concerned about? Interesting, right?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. But I would venture to say that Arab countries, first of all, don't have that responsibility and don't want to engage in assisting Israel with the ethnic cleansing that they want to carry out. But they are making the Gaza Strip unlivable when there's essentially no infrastructure left, no housing left, no hospitals left, no refugee camps left. When they're talking about pumping seawater into the tunnels, thus totally sacrificing what's left of the drinkable water in the Gaza Strip, how exactly is the Gaza Strip supposed to support human life? Could it be that we should maybe believe what the far right wing government

officials and Israel keep saying over and over again to the press in their country about how they want to level the Gaza Strip, how they want to make it unlivable, how they want to use the Gaza Strip as a buffer zone to provide space between Israel and Palestinians? Maybe Maybe we should believe people when they tell us who they are. But no, we're going to go ahead and pretend like we don't see what we're seeing, we don't hear what we're hearing, and we don't read what we're reading. One of the hardest parts of getting older is feeling like something's off in your body, but not knowing exactly what.

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The only two major countries that continue to support Israel at this moment are the United States and the UK. Every other major country on the world stage wants a ceasefire, has voted for a ceasefire. But the U.S. and the UK continues to provide cover for Israel. So, for instance, last week, the UN Security Council called for speeding up humanitarian aid deliveries to Gaza following reports that at least a quarter of Gazans are starving and now dying under Israel's siege. By the way, what do you call that? When you intentionally starve an entire population of people, when you engage in the collective punishment of an entire population of people,

what is that called exactly? Oh, is this just war? Is that what this is just war? This is just war. It's just collateral damage. Intentionally starving people to death, denying them water so they can stay alive. What is that called? Just curious.

Israel continues to severely limit food, water, fuel, medicine, and other supplies entering the region. The UN Security Council called that out. And so as a result, oh, well, the UN Security Council, the UN overall, they're not supporters of Israel, they're anti-Semitic, they're Jew haters, right. Israel said it would no longer grant automatic visas to UN employees and accuse the world body of being complicit partners in Hamas's tactics. Government spokesman Elon Levy said Israel would consider visa request case by case that could further limit aid efforts in Gaza.

Oh, I'm sure that's not intentional at all. And I'm also sure it's not intentional that they are not allowing journalists into the region so they can corroborate and verify some of the claims being made. I'm sure that's all a mistake. That's all an accident. Palestinian bodies are now in some cases impossible to even identify and they're being thrown into mass graves. Here is one example. Israeli authorities have handed over the bodies of approximately 80 people through the

Karam Abu Salem crossing. These are people who were arrested and kidnapped in Gaza city and northern Gaza. So far we don't know their names or the total number. However, it is estimated there are 80 people. This truck just entered the Karam Abu Salem crossing south, east of Rapa. It is now headed towards the Abu Yusuf al-Najar hospital and the bodies will be examined to identify the people if possible. As you can see, this truck is arriving now and is carrying the bodies of those people. This is the first time bodies have been handed over to the Palestinian side through the official border crossing for identification and burial processes here in Gaza. biased to trust their reporting. Same report by CBS News this morning, by CNN, by American

media that has actually been incredibly friendly to Israel, especially in previous wars with the Palestinians. But in this case, the evidence is mounting. The footage from the Gaza strip is impossible to deny. And even the friendly corporate media news outlets have no choice, But to be honest about what we are seeing on the ground in the Gaza Strip. And let's not forget about the fact that this is, in fact, now already dragging us into a broader war in the region. In fact, things became even more intense over the weekend. I want to get to the details about this expansion. So Israel launched air strikes in Damascus, Syria, and here are some more details on why they did that and what this could lead to.

Iran vows that Israel will pay the price after the death of a major Iranian official in an airstrike in Syria. NPS Tayev has more. The funeral of Sayyad Razi Musavi was led by the Syrian military. One of Iran's top advisors to its revolutionary guard, he was killed and an Israeli air strike in a Damascus neighborhood on Monday. Tehran vowed revenge for Musavi's killing. amid growing fears the Israel Hamas war could engulf the region. So they're carrying out airstrikes in Syria. They're taking out military leaders from Iran in other countries, in Syria in this case.

That's leading to Iran saying that they will in fact retaliate. Gee, I wonder if this is going to expand into a broader war. If things are already unstable and will be further destabilized in that region as a result of, of Israel's belligerence. And yes, I use that word clearly and accurately, belligerence. They do not care about the deaths of innocent civilians. That is riling up people in the Arab world for good reason. How can anyone watch what's happening and feel that it's okay and justified?

As a result, you have militant groups retaliating, whether you're talking about the Houthi rebels or other Iran-backed militias like Hezbollah. And the United States, of course, is going to get dragged into it. The United States has already been dragged into it. So my question to you is, are we okay with sacrificing our brave men and women in the military to fight Israel's wars? I'm not okay with that. And I really think that we should take a moment to consider all the issues we have in our own country,

All of the issues we have within our own military, where we abandon our own military veterans when they need health care, when they need mental health care, does it really make sense for us to exert ourselves and our resources to fight Israel's battles and Israel's wars as their far right-wing government continues with its belligerence? Really take a moment to ask yourself that. And as you do that, consider the fact that we already have soldiers who have been severely wounded as a result of engaging in Israel's war on Israel's behalf. I'll tell you how.

So the United States has launched airstrikes against Iran-backed militias in Iraq. You thought we were done with Iraq, right? We're not done with Iraq. It took Israel to drag us right back in. Let's watch. Since the outbreak of the war, Iran-backed groups in Syria, Iraq, and Yemen have launched a slew of attacks on U.S. and allied forces. On Monday, militias conducted a drone attack on Erbil Air Base, wounding three U.S. service members won critically. In response, Washington said it struck three sites used by pro-Iran groups.

While we do not seek to escalate conflict in the region, we are committed and fully prepared to take further necessary measures to protect our people and our facilities. The Iran-backed Qatheb Hezbollah makes up part of the Hashid al-Shabi, a coalition of former paramilitary forces now integrated into Iraq's regular army. The Iraqi government hit back at the American strikes, saying this step harms bilateral relations between the two countries, and above all, it represents an unacceptable violation of Iraqi sovereignty. What are we doing? What are we doing? Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin claiming that we are going to do whatever it takes to protect our people and our facilities is a complete joke. It's a joke.

Because if he were serious about that and if the United States government, under the leadership of the very weak and pathetic Joe Biden, we're serious about that, then they would stop assisting Israel in its belligerence, they would stop providing the weaponry and the funding for Israel to carry out their barbaric acts in the Gaza Strip. But they're not doing that, are they? Oh, don't worry, Biden's wagging his finger. Hey, Netanyahu, please, please, please be a little better, please. Pathetic, embarrassing. We are a laughing stock on the international stage. Absolutely embarrassing. and to sacrifice members of our own military to do this, to destabilize the region on behalf

of Israel, I think is incredibly shameful, incredibly shameful, especially since we're doing it on behalf of the government that is led by a man who propped up Hamas, who funded Hamas, who consistently brags about how he prevented the formation of a Palestinian state. Benjamin Netanyahu did all of that. And we are spending our resources and sacrificing our soldiers on behalf of that government. No thanks. We got to take a break. We'll be right back.

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Thank you for having me, Anna. So I wanted to have you on to give us some updates on how your primary campaign is going. There was a lot of drama with some states refusing to allow you on the ballots. We're going to get to that in just a moment, but there was also some good news in regard to states that will allow you on their primary ballot. So tell us about the states that have decided to do the right thing here. Yeah, there's so much bad news. I forgot that there was goodness.

You're right. Texas, Oklahoma, Vermont, Minnesota. And they said it wasn't possible. Okay, so four states. Four states so far in counting. And look, seriously, a lot of people thought, oh, you won't be able to get on a single state, you're not a natural born citizen. I know we're going to talk about our lawsuit in a minute, but they were wrong.

They were wrong about the process, they're wrong about how you get on ballots, and they're wrong about the constitutional issue. People who are like amateur, you know, amateurs on online think that they know everything because of eighth grade. You just don't. This is it like, who knows the Federal Election Commission decision on Hassan? Not that Hassan, another Husson, right, that allows you to run. You don't know that. So why are you pretending you do? I feel like I want to say to all my critics. But yes, we're on in four states. Well, look, to be full, to engage in full disclosure, because I think it's important. I was, a little salty about your run in the beginning.

No. I think it was pretty obvious to the audience, even though I did my best to conceal it. That was not that good. I'm not good at concealing the way I feel about things. No, but, you know, I've since changed my mind because even though, you know, you winning the primary is obviously a long shot, I think that the legal battle that you want to engage in here on behalf of naturalized citizens is important, and I'm curious to see where it goes. So talk to me a little bit about the lawsuit, your campaign filed in South Carolina.

Yeah, so South Carolina takes $20,000 from each of the candidates, and then the state party decides who is a bona fide candidate and who is it, okay. So now South Carolina was actually a little bit better than Florida and North Carolina, Tennessee, and now Massachusetts that have all said, me, Marianne Williamson, and Dean Phillips, and everyone else on planet Earth are not qualified to run in the Democratic primers. So four states have said, no, we don't care what our voters think. We don't want to know, we're not interested. It's going to be Joe Biden, and we don't care how badly is, but we don't care about anything. You're banned. None of you are allowed to run. Okay, can I just interject real quick?

So guys, understand how insane that is, okay, because we're talking about, take jenk out of it for a If you want to make the argument, well, he can't run, you know, he's a naturalized citizen. Okay, fine. But what argument are you going to make in regard to Dean Phillips and Marianne Williamson also being barred from the primary ballots in these states? So look, I don't know if we'll have time to talk about my experience running because it's so interesting. And I've got more comments about Marianne Williamson and Dean Phillips than I do about myself.

Because the way that the press has treated them is revelatory. It shows you exactly what the press is about. But it also shows you what the Democratic Party is about. So Dean Phillips is a sitting U.S. congressman. If he runs for his reelection in his congressional district, the Democratic Party loves him and he's a beloved incumbent and that's how he was treated his whole life, right? Or at least since he's been involved in politics. But the minute he runs for president, he's persona non grata.

And you're not allowed to challenge Joe Biden. And you're not even allowed on the ballot as a sitting U.S. congressman. That's insane. And then Marianne Williamson ran last time, was in the debates last time, and has been polling, higher than anyone outside of Trump, Biden, and DeSantis, the entirety of the election, and not allowed on the ballot. It's insane. In those four states.

So four states have banned everybody. Four states have allowed everyone, including myself, right? There's a lot of states left to decide. And then there are the states like South Carolina where only I've been banned. And so in South Carolina, to answer your original question, they said, we're not going to give you the $20,000 back. So we're ripping off little old ladies who donated to your camera. campaign and we've made a constitutional decision that you're not qualified because what,

your constitutional law scholars? No, they're not, they don't know anything, right? But I get it, okay, fine, you made that decision, no problem, that allows me to bring it to court and challenge your decision, which is exactly what we're doing. So we're doing it on core constitutional grounds. So I've talked to you before about the 14th Amendment. And if you get into the details a little bit more, we're making a case that the 14th Amendment explicitly repealed the natural born citizen clause because it is the only natural and born

and naturalized or only mentioned in the Constitution in those two places. Must be a natural born citizen, then the 14th Amendment says, no, born or naturalized, you have due process and equal rights, okay? So we think, and we make an excellent case for other court cases that show that amendments are explicitly repealed without saying, oh, by the way, we are repealing that part of the amendment. In fact, the 14th Amendment repeals the three-fifths that black people are three-fist and never mentions it. But it's still considered an explicit repeal of it.

And then we have a great case for an implicit repeal. I don't want to get too deep into the weeds on the legal issues. We have an excellent case for a First Amendment issue, not only for me, but a South Carolina Democratic voter, who is a supporter of mine, has joined the case. Oh, wow. And now we are suing together. And he's saying, how about my First Amendment rights? You're not letting me vote.

You're taking my voice. This is the person I want to vote for, and you're not letting me do it. I have rights. And that's important because in order to make this case, you need standing in South Carolina. And you have a voter who's making the case that, you know, he wants to support you and isn't given an opportunity in a country that's supposed to have a democratic process in place. Right. And of course, I have standing because I'm a bona fide candidate running for office and they're not letting me, right?

And so we both do. And then the last issue is the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That doesn't affect whether you could be president. but it affects whether you should be on the ballot or not. And it very, very clearly says you cannot discriminate based on national origin. So now whether you can discriminate in terms of serving as president is a constitutional issue, the courts are going to settle. But even if we win that small part of the case on the Civil Rights Act,

that means that any naturalized citizen can run. Okay, and guys, last thing on this, Anna, when the better that I do, the better than any of these candidates sue, it makes the Supreme Court's job harder. if they're going to say, no, we're going to discriminate because then they have to say, we're not only discriminating against Jenk, but we're discriminating against all the people that want to vote for them. That is an interesting argument. You know, the other thing that I'm curious to see is how the Supreme Court, if they do take

this up, how they're going to decide the case, because we're talking about Supreme Court justices, most of whom are conservative and believe in the literal interpretation of the the Constitution, just interpreting it based on the plain language of the Constitution. And the plain language based on the way you're interpreting it is the way that I would assume the Supreme Court would interpret it, right? Look, if I love that they have that principle of plain meaning of the law, okay? Because there's no argument at all for the other side if you're looking at plain meaning. It says all persons born or naturalized have due process and equal protection.

There's no answers or bust about it. In fact, if you wanted to write a repeal of the natural born clause, this is almost exactly how you would write it. And it's, there's, I'll make, put it in layman's terms, if you put it in an amendment in the Constitution that said, you're not allowed to eat donuts, okay? And they meant, oh, we didn't mean that, we meant you're not allowed to carry a switchblade. But you wrote, you're not allowed to eat donuts. Plain meaning, you're not allowed to eat donuts, it's over, sorry, that's what the words mean.

Words have meaning, right? And in this case, it is super clear, it is super explicit, there's no question about it at all. Nationalized citizens have the same exact rights. And in fact, the Supreme Court has ruled that way, just not on the presidential case. Honestly, I don't even understand that, I know, I get it. There's lots of law professors who are like, well, no, that's, you know, if equal doesn't really mean equal. And they're like, well, what about, for example, your age? You have to be 35.

Does equal mean that? But it didn't say anything about age. It's said naturalized equal. Again, you almost couldn't write it any better if you were trying to repeal that section of the Constitution, and it doesn't matter because it's the absolute plain meaning of the language. So let's move on to a poll that your campaign commissioned. The results, to be quite frank, were not that surprising to me, given the polling,

the average of polls that show how vulnerable President Joe Biden is if he runs head-to-head with Donald Trump. So tell us what the results were, what you asked, likely Democratic voters. And I also wanna talk a little bit about an Associated Press NORC poll that asks likely voters how they feel about the primary process. But let's start with the poll that your campaign commissioned. We only ask three questions because we don't have a lot of money. Okay, all right.

But we need to do a sample size that was significant and we need to do with a polling organization that people would trust. So we went with you gov to 1,200 people, so that's what a normal presidential poll does. So we basically, but we only asked three questions. So one was me versus Biden head to head. And that's 83 to 17. So I get 17 points head to head with Biden. Now, but I'm honest, I'm not a normal politician. Like, you don't get to go head to head. That's not really how it works. There's other people in the race. Right. And when there's other people in the race, I don't do nearly as well as 17. Okay. Now, but having said that, that shows you incredible weakness on Biden's part.

I would have gotten zero against Obama. Absolutely zero, okay? And so I'm getting 17 points in a head to head match up against Biden. Okay, and that's with no mainstream media coverage, literally zero mainstream media coverage. Okay, so now when you go to, and then we ask with everybody involved. And the third question, the only one we had left, I decided we're going to ask, are you worried about the chance of Biden winning or are you worried about him losing the Trump, right, basically. And 77% of people said, Democrats, not an average person, Democrats

and leaning Democrats said yes, concern. And I'll break it down for you real quick. It's 27% said very worried, 25% said somewhat worried, and 23%, I'm sorry, another 25% said slightly worried. So giant numbers of Democratic voters going, we're really, really worried that This guy's not going to win. Who's this Jake Huger guy? Yes, 17 points. Wow. 17 points for Jank Yugar, which they've never heard of in mainstream media.

Well, I mean, look, Biden believes that he is best suited, the best possible candidate to beat Donald Trump. So if he believes it, shouldn't we just go along with him? Well, if you live in Washington or New York and you're a mainstream media figure or a regular politician, you go, of course, we bow our heads to the dear leader. numbers and facts don't matter at all. I mean, look, guys, he's pulling a 34%, right? That's no one has ever pulled out low in one, no incumbent in a history of the United States of America in federal elections. If you want to bury your head in the sand, you can choose to do that.

But it's, so this guy's going to pull off the most miraculous comeback in American political history. If you believe that, okay, but you're nuts. He's down to 24% with independence. Absolutely no chance of winning. And we're we're flat out choosing to lose and to all people, Donald Trump. This is total insanity. campaign because they see the polls, they're not blind to it.

And they say the same thing over and over again, which in other contexts could be true, but in this context, given the lack of popularity for Biden, given the various polls that have come out one after another showing how vulnerable he is to Donald Trump, it's hard to believe that they really think, well, there's a lifetime between now and the general election, and Biden's going to turn it around by the time we get to the general election. Do you really think they believe that or do you think the Democratic Party and the Biden campaign in particular is kind of hanging its hat on Trump's legal battles, hoping that that will do him in and allow for Biden to clear an easy victory? So when you say do they think that there's layers to us. So let me do it as quickly as I can. Joe Biden has lost touch with reality, but honestly never really had much of a touch to begin with.

So I'll tell you a story I've never said on air before. So a person that I know went to go work with Joe Biden back when he was a senator, and he was going to get, he got an interview. And his Biden's chief of staff told him, if you want the job, don't say anything during the interview. He said, what do you mean? Don't say anything. How would I get the job? He's like, just trust me. He goes in, comes back out. And he told me, this is many years later that he tells me the story. He said, I said maybe two lines in a 45 minute interview. He spoke the rest of the time. Wow. Okay. And I said, did you get the job? He said, yeah, I did. Because Biden is an egomaniac. He's a narcissist of extreme degree. And so, but the mainstream media covers that up. Everyone who knows Biden knows he's a narcissist. And so you can't get in a word edgewise. I've met Joe Biden twice. I couldn't get in a word age wise. He just, he loves the sound of his own voice. So if you tell him, Joe, you really can't do it. He's like, no way. I'm the greatest person, greatest politician that's ever lived.

I could do it. Seems like, I'm the only one who could do it. Let's, let's relax for saying. It seems like a bit of an exaggeration given like his, like Biden's the guy who's like, you know, squints into the camera and is barely able to get a sentence out. I hear you, he probably wouldn't say it with the same, you know, style. Right. But having said that, the one place where he gets animated when it's about him, then he gets

super animated, plus he's 81 and they get, honestly, people sometimes get stubborn when they are 81, right? To be fair, we've also seen in 2020 various instances of Biden getting challenged in various campaign events. And during those events, he would insult those challenging him. And I'm talking about Democratic voters. I mean, he called one Democratic voter fat. Yeah, yeah. He gets really cranky if he touches pride.

Right. Okay. So now the second layer is people who are as enablers. And so half of them know he's going to lose and half of them don't. The ones that don't are like, oh no, no, we're going to make a comeback. And he's not that far down. A polls don't mean anything. They have all of these excuses.

They go through them one by one by one to delude themselves. He's the only one who's ever beaten Trump. What does that mean? That doesn't mean anything. You know, the Steelers beat the Cowboys back in the 1970s. That doesn't mean a goddamn thing. How are they doing today, right? But they get themselves to believe and they always, and their number one problem for them is they think,

well, every election is 50-50 now. No. No, he's losing every single swing state. If this keeps going, he's going to get beyond the swing states and lose other states. We're in landslide territory. He's down eight points of Trump and he's got a win by five. Down 13 overall. Lunatics and self-interested, easy to delude themselves.

The other guys aren't deluding themselves. They just think, well, I'm the head of the DNC, or I'm a very important cabinet official for Biden. Or I'm an important ally of Biden. I'm his campaign code chair, whatever it is. And they're like, if Biden loses, I'm irrelevant. If Biden drops out of the race. I'm irrelevant. Right.

And some of them will literally lose their jobs. So they think, I don't give a damn that we're gonna lose. Of course we're gonna lose. Who cares? The Democrats lose all the time? Republicans lose all the time. The question is, am I gonna get to keep my job? And if we lose a general election, most of those people keep their jobs.

But if we lose, but if Biden loses the primary, none of them keep their jobs. So that's another factor. And then finally, the last layer is the, the, the, the, Democratic voters who have been betrayed by mainstream media, who have told them, polls don't matter, numbers are irrelevant, facts are BS, don't listen to facts, just listen to the leader. And the leader will, and oh my God, never trust the progressive, never trust an outsider, never trust anyone who isn't a very old politician who hasn't died in the wool. So that's how they've deluded themselves in this way. Later, they'll all pretend that

they knew all along. I guarantee you could write it down in stone. And they'll say, like in the middle of the of the general election, a panic will set in because he's only going to go further down, right? And then they'll go, how did we get into this mess? How come somebody didn't warn us? And then we'll like me, James Carville, Bill Maher, some people that I don't agree with, Axelrod, we're all through, Mary Ann Wilson, we'll throw up our hands and go,

we told you, we told you a hundred times and you yelled at us, you sent John Federman to go Yell at us, Federman's now going around yelling at anyone who dares to challenge Biden. He went after James Carville today. I know, we're gonna talk about it on the show later, but I'm sure it's gonna work out real well for Federman by basically mocking the very people who helped him get elected in the first place, but let's move off of him. I don't want to waste time talking about Federman in the context of this interview. I do want to just say though that, you know, it's interesting because There seems to be this rejection of the polling.

There seems to be a rejection of allowing a robust primary, a Democratic primary to challenge Biden. But I don't know whether you entering the race has really made any difference for the Biden campaign. I mean, that was the other objective you had. One objective, of course, was to deal with the issue of naturalized citizens being barred from running. The other objective was to persuade the democratic establishment to allow for a robust primary. Has there been any positive movement on that? The only thing that is, there's two things that are positive, right? Not about the primary system, that that's the bureaucracy and the bureaucracy will not move if the leaders don't move.

Okay, so the only two positive things is that I have been in communication with senior people in Biden's team. I'm not at liberty to say, I could say it right now, but I'd be betrayed. confidence and I don't want to do that and that's counterproductive, right? Correct, yeah. But, but I've been in touch with them, they are perfectly aware and have made the case to Biden that I am making, okay? Okay, so that that's why I'm positive, it's Biden who's being intransigent. Wow.

It's Biden himself who's like, no, I'm the greatest and I'm the only one who could be Trump. That's why he said it the other day. That's why he reflexively said, I'm the only one who could be Trump, okay? That's crazy. But at least we got through to them. Okay, that's number one. And number two, look overall in the media, now it's split.

Now how, you know, a quarter of the media, a third of the media, including some mainstays. Like I just said, Carville, Barr, Axelrod on MSNBC and CNN are saying, I'm not sure he's going to win. And I wish he'd step aside so we can get a stronger candidate. Like, is it still possible to push that Boulder a little bit more? So it rolls down the hill, I think it is still possible. It's not going to be possible after a while after the elections start, right? But the first one is January 23rd, so we still have a little bit of time for me and those

guys who I normally do not agree with, but that can actually read numbers and understand what math and facts are and sciences for us to win and Biden to step down and then to have an emergency primary where everybody's allowed it. Well, Jenk, unfortunately we're out of time, but I'd love to have you back on soon to give us some more updates. I also want to tell the audience a little bit about the town hall that you're doing. You're going to be doing a weekly town hall called Join In with Jank, and you're inviting viewers to join in the town hall later that day.

So there's a graphic showing you a little more information about it. Wednesday, December 27th at 8.30 p.m. Eastern time, 5.30 p.m. Pacific. Do you want to tell the audience a little more about this town hall? Yeah, so look, you're gonna go through the QR code, obviously, or that you're URL, but if you go to my website, jankforamerica.com, and you send an email, we'll send you an email on directions on how to get into that. It's including today at 530 Pacific, 830 Eastern. And what I'm going to do, what I started last time and what I'm going to do with the town hall today is get us to all act together. So there's a whole bunch of people that come

to those town halls. And so I'm going to say, all right, now look, now I'm, now I poll this way in that way in all these different polls. So why aren't all the polls including me? Let's go ask online on Twitter, for example, Emerson polling. Why aren't you including Jang in the polls when he's polling higher than several governors tied with Chris Christie? So why are you discriminating against him? And on that topic of discrimination, we don't have time here. I know you're out of time.

But I'm gonna talk about it more on the town hall and more next time with you. Because this is the discrimination against naturalized citizens is the one thing that's apparently totally okay. Like everybody's cool with it, ha ha, you guys aren't fully Americans, and we like to rub your nose in it. And it's, and now it's really driving me crazy. And also in this particular context, it's the Democratic Party that's sending that message, loud and clear. And that's the party that has really leaned into their messaging on equality for their campaigning. And what leg do they have to stand on to make those arguments when they do believe in treating certain Americans, naturalized citizens as second class citizens. I think that's wrong. And we know that for a fact

now because the DNC is actively calling state Democratic parties and saying discriminate. Do not let him on the ballot. He's a naturalized citizen. So he's no good. He shouldn't have the same rights as us. Insane. 14th Amendment be damned. So jankforamerica.com to support us voice louder now. And we certainly need everybody to help to win on the civil rights issue as we go to court in South Carolina. Thank you, Anna. All right, thank you, Jank, and we'll have you on soon again to talk about more updates to your campaign. For now, though, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we're going to get into more of the updates out of the Gaza Strip, some damning reports by CNN about the treatment of patients in Gaza's hospitals and how the IDF has been caught desecrating bodies in these hospitals.

So that and more coming up, don't miss it. Welcome back to the show, everyone, unfortunately, our next story is no lighter from the first story that I covered in regard to updates in Gaza. I'm going to just give you a warning ahead of time. This story is so. graphic, explicit, difficult to report on, difficult to hear. So if this is something that you might have trouble listening to, I just want to give you that warning ahead of time. But with that said, there was a pretty damning report from CNN in regard to Israeli defense forces and their treatment of Palestinian patients in a specific hospital in the Gaza Strip. I want to share that report with you right now.

So let's do it. The Israeli defense forces eight day military operation at the Kamal-Adwan Hospital in Gaza last week included the desecration of Palestinian bodies according to senior medical staff and video evidence that was reviewed by CNN. Now CNN put out this report. I highly recommend everyone read all the details that were reported on in their piece. But I'm going to cover some of the important elements of it in this story. So as with other hospitals that have been bombed by the IDF in the Gaza Strip, other hospitals that have been shelled or, you know, experiencing sieges by the IDF. Now, Israel has justified their actions in this particular case by claiming that the hospital

was used. I mean, it's so repetitive. I feel like you already know what I'm going to say. as a command center by Hamas. Now they have provided very little evidence so far, justifying this, proving that the hospital was used as a Hamas command center. But nonetheless, I want to give you the details about what CNN was able to review in the footage that was provided to them and what the medical professionals operating out of the hospital told CNN. Now, Israeli soldiers raiding a hospital in northern Gaza desecrated the bodies of dead patients

with bulldozers, let a military dog mall, a man in a wheelchair, and shot multiple doctors even after vetting them for terror links. And that's according to allegations by staff and patients. Some of the patients that CNN spoke to were children who witnessed the IDF's dogs attacking a disabled patient in a wheelchair. Now I want to give you a timeline of the operation. The operation escalated on Monday, December 11th. The next day, Israeli forces demolish the hospital complex's western wall, according to the hospital's pediatric director, Hosam Abu Safia, who said soldiers addressed the hospital with loudspeakers instructing any men sheltering inside to come out.

Now, according to Abu Safia, he and four other doctors were allowed to remain within the hospital to provide care for 62 people, including several infants. However, the situation within the hospital was so dire due to a lack of resources that they were unable to provide adequate care. According to Abu Safia, they were surrounded by Israeli troops with parts of the complex badly damaged by shelling. There was no care that he could offer, he said. The hospital was out of food, out of water, out of electricity, and milk for children, and hardly had any medicine and left to provide adequate care to the remaining patients. Now, one of the nurses, Nurse Asma Tanish, recalls begging for water to no avail, she said.

Israeli troops were half a meter away from us and surrounding us in the courtyard. We had no water, our throats were dry and we were thirsty and begging them just for a glass of water. From the morning till evening, she said. Some children died during the Israeli operation at the hospital, she said, adding that nurses tried diluting milk with a salt solution to try to feed more of the hospital's youngest patients. Now, this should come as no surprise. This should not be shocking, considering Israel continues to severely limit the humanitarian aid going into the Gaza Strip. They're being denied food. They're being denied clean and safe drinking water. They're being denied medicine

necessary to stay alive. And this is all happening as hospitals are being bombarding. as they're being severely damaged through shelling by the IDF. And so if they're unable to treat wounded patients, what are they supposed to do? What are the wounded patients supposed to do? There have been reports of children whose limbs have been amputated and reporters have shown

images of severe infections, of literal worms coming out of their wounds. This is barbarism. This is absolutely disgusting. But believe it or not, we haven't even gotten to the worst of this report. Among the most serious allegations is that as troops were leaving the hospital complex, they used bulldozers to dig up bodies that had been recently buried in a makeshift graveyard in the hospital's courtyard. So Abu Safia, the pediatric director that we heard from earlier, told CNN the following.

The soldiers dug up the graves this morning and drag the bodies with bulldozers, then crush the bodies with the bulldozers. I have never seen such a thing before. Now remember, there's a huge issue right now in the Gaza Strip when it comes to reporting because journalists are not allowed to enter the Gaza Strip. They're not able to corroborate some of the claims being made. But CNN was able to corroborate the claims being made by looking at video evidence and they make that clear in their reporting. Videos and images he shared with CNN show decomposing human remains scattered across the hospital ground, CNN reports.

The allegation was supported by the hospital's head of nursing, Ed Saba, and another nurse, Asma Tanish, who we heard from earlier. Satellite imagery taken on December 15th, right before the IDF withdrew from the hospital complex, shows raised grounds outside the hospital complex, further corroborating the claims made. by the medical professionals in the facility. The IDF also didn't directly deny the claims. As CNN reports, the IDF did not address the allegations directly when approached for comment by CNN, but acknowledged that it had carried out an operation at the hospital. Quote, the troops apprehended 80 terrorists, some of whom took part in the atrocious October 7th massacre, it said in a statement to CNN.

I would take that with a grain of salt. I wouldn't believe anything the IDF says, just as I would not believe anything an IDF, I'm sorry, a Hamas militant says in regard to what's happening on the ground in Gaza. Take it with a grain assault, especially when you consider the disinformation that's come out from the IDF, the lies that they have told in regard to the aerial bombardments that they've done against hospitals. They claim that the Al-Shifa hospital was being used as a Hamas command center. They provided no evidence of that.

Even the Washington Post came out with its own analysis. They investigated their claims made by the IDF and said, no, the IDF has provided inadequate evidence to show that Hamas was operating a command center out of the Al-Shefa hospital, which would allow for the shelling and bombardment and raid of that hospital. Now, doctors were also shot out at this particular hospital, as CNN reports. Dr. Ayman Rajab was released by soldiers after questioning and then shot in the chest as he tried to make his way back to the hospital. Abu Safia told CNN. He survived the shooting and returned to his displaced family. Another doctor was shot in the leg and Abu Safia's own son was shot

in the abdomen, he said. He also alleges that he himself became a target after IDF soldiers called him in the early morning hours on Friday. Following the IDF's orders, he found a wounded elderly man lying on the ground in front of the building. But as Abu Safia tried to approach the man, he says the soldier started firing at him. So the IDF calls on him to come outside and provide aid to a man who is severely wounded just outside the hospital. And as he listens to orders and tries to retrieve the man and bring him into the hospital,

hospital to receive whatever treatment they can offer, however inadequate as it might be. He claims that IDF soldiers start shooting at him. Quote, the IDF shot at me and laughed and jeered. I escaped their gunfire, but they called me again and asked me to take the wounded elderly man lying on the ground inside again, he said. He finally brought the man inside, but it was too late. The man could not be treated in the hospital due to lack of medical resources and later died from his injuries, Abu Safia said.

Now, for me, the most barbaric allegations have to do with the IDF sicking their dogs on patients within the hospital. And these claims were corroborated by children who are patients within the hospital. So apparently in another instance, Israeli military dogs wearing cameras were sent into the hospital for reconnaissance, and that's according to Abu Saq. Safia, one of the dogs attacked and mauled a wheelchair bound elderly man before being called off. The man screamed in pain, children and women cried from the horror of the scene. I couldn't help anyone. The scene was beyond nightmares. One of their soldiers came to take the dog and was laughing at the old man and what the dog did to him.

Someone please explain to me how doing this is going to keep Israel safe. Someone please explain to me how carrying out these atrocities is somehow going to assist Israel on the international stage. There is a good reason why the international community, with the exception of the United States and the UK, are demanding a ceasefire. absolutely demanding investigations into the atrocities committed by the IDF in the Israeli government. See, the United States, I don't know what the issue is with the UK. Okay, I don't know what persuades politicians in the UK to follow along with the United States, but I know what motivates politicians in the United States. I know it motivates pathetic, weak politicians like Senator John Federman in the United States.

They're terrified of APEC. They're terrified of the Democratic majority for Israel. They're terrified of these lobbying groups who will target you and who will try to destroy your political career if you have the audacity to call on Israel to stop their atrocities in the Gaza Strip. That's what's motivating this. The fact that the U.S. is providing cover for what's happening is so incredibly shameful. Why is the U.K. going along with it?

But anyway, let me get back to this. The claims about the wheelchair-bound elderly man being attacked by an IDF dog were corroborated by children receiving treatment in the hospital, including one child who was receiving treatment for a broken leg. Imagine being a child. Okay, you're surrounded by death and destruction. And as you are in a hospital, a place that you're supposed to feel safe, you witness a military dog attack a wheelchair-bound elderly man, a vulnerable individual who is unable to defend himself. The Israelis let dogs come and attack us. They tortured us. They were shooting toward us. Knights were horrific. We never had sleep since we came here. They let dogs attack an old man. It kept biting him. By the way, the IDF couldn't be bothered to address these claims.

Interesting, I mean, if these claims were being made against me and I didn't do it, I wouldn't hesitate to deny it, but that's not what's happening here. The IDF did not address those claims in its statements but said its operation around the hospital was targeted on Hamas, targeted on Hamas, sicking military dogs on elderly men in wheelchairs. totally targeting Hamas. Yeah, we should we should totally take what they're saying at face value. You know, the same military that shot and killed Abu Akle, an Al Jazeera journalists using sniper fire, and then denied it until multiple investigations proved that the IDF had done it. The same IDF who, you know, put out a fake recording of so-called Hamas militants that proved, you know, that Hamas, you know, that Hamas, was responsible for a rocket, a mislaunched rocket that hit a hospital in Gaza. Turned out that that was completely bunk, completely fake.

I mean, I just, so let's get to the IDF's evidence of this hospital being used as a command center for Hamas, okay? So evidence of military activity or militant activity at the Kamal-Adwan hospital. according to the IDF included numerous weapons, numerous weapons, just like at al-Shifa. You got some AK-47s. I mean, the existence of AK-47s is not indicative of a command center, of like a headquarters for a militant group. But they say, look, we found AK-47s. We found RPGs, explosive devices, Hamas, commando, military equipment, technological equipment. We're supposed to take this at face value, by the way.

They didn't provide evidence of that. They're just saying that's what they found. But as CNN makes clear, the presence of weaponry or wounded combatants at a hospital does not necessarily make it a legal military target. Now, there are international laws. Israel, with the help of the United States government, has done a great job in dismantling the credibility of those laws. So let's just be clear about that.

Now I hear international law and I can't help but laugh at that. Because clearly international laws don't matter at all when you have the world's largest military power, the United States, providing cover for Israel as it breaks international laws. Okay, so I just want to make that clear. But as CNN notes, Article 19 of the Geneva Convention states that the fact that sick or wounded members of the armed forces are nursed in these hospitals or the presence of small arms and ammunition taken from such combatants, which have not yet been handed to the proper service, shall not be considered to be acts harmful to the enemy. So in other words, if we were even

to take the IDF at face value when they say that they found these weapons, that still is not enough to justify attacking a hospital. Hospitals are supposed to be safe places for civilians. The bar is much higher if you want to attack a hospital. But as we know, every single hospital in the Gaza Strip has been attacked by the IDF. None of them are functioning properly. None of them have the resources to provide adequate care to wounded Palestinian civilians. I'm sure that's all an accident. I'm sure none of that was done on purpose.

I'm sure severely limiting humanitarian aid, meaning water and food necessary for human survival, was all an accident. It's all an accident. Right, okay. And the guns that they also, you know, shared some images of people holding weapons. I want to address that as well. So the IDF last week also released photos and video showing young men holding guns in the air, militants handing in weapons after their surrender from Kamal Adwan Hospital, it alleged. But the staffers interviewed by CNN said the men were actually civilians sheltering in the hospital after being displaced from other parts of Gaza. We told them there weren't any resistance fighters in the hospital and no one listened to us. Tanish, the nurse, said. The guns that they were pictured

with had actually belonged to security guards who had been guarding the hospital, and that's according to Abu Safia. And here's what he had to say. I saw with my own eyes that the army asked the displaced civilian youth and the medical team to carry the weapons of the security guards that were left in the hospital guard room, and they took pictures of them in front of me. And then they dispersed that as evidence to justify attacking the hospital. That's what's being alleged here. Now, if you don't want to believe the actual doctors operating out of the hospital and you want to believe the IDF instead, the same IDF that has carried out atrocities.

that have been proven in the Gaza Strip, I guess that's your decision to make. But again, every single hospital in the Gaza Strip has been targeted and attacked by the IDF, and they make the same claims every single time they target a hospital, every single time. Oh, it's a Hamas command center. Hamas uses civilians as human shields. I mean, again, I've made this analogy before. But if family members belonging to an IDF soldier were taken at gunpoint and were used as human shields by Hamas, would they be willing to shoot through their loved ones to take

out the Hamas militant? I mean, they've been clear about how little they care about the Israeli hostages that remain in the Gaza Strip, who knows how many of them are alive at this point. But if it came down to their own family members, if Hamas was using their own family members as human shields, would they be willing to shoot through their own family members to take out Hamas and then say, there was nothing I could do. Hamas was using my family member as a human shield. Something tells me they would think twice about that. Something tells me that they would treat that situation a little differently. Something tells me that the disregard for human lives in the Gaza Strip is evident to everyone in the community with the exception of the governments in the United States and the U.K. That's the reality of the situation. This is barbaric behavior at a time when the Prime Minister of Israel keeps framing this war as a war between civilization and barbarism.

Who's carrying out the barbarism? It looks like the IDF to me. We got to take a break. John Idaurola will be joining me for the second hour. Don't miss it.