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Episode Date: August 20, 2024

Ceasefire talks may be the last chance to free hostages, Blinken says. Democrats’ unity convention has one giant exception: The Gaza War. Pollsters find that Harris is leading in the polls heading i...nto the DNC." " HOST: Ana Kasparian (@anakasparian), Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ https://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER: ☞ https://www.twitter.com/theyoungturks INSTAGRAM: ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK: ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕 Merch: https://shoptyt.com ❤ Donate: http://www.tyt.com/go 🔗 Website: https://www.tyt.com 📱App: http://www.tyt.com/app 📬 Newsletters: https://www.tyt.com/newsletters/ If you want to watch more videos from TYT, consider subscribing to other channels in our network: The Watchlist https://www.youtube.com/watchlisttyt Indisputable with Dr. Rashad Richey https://www.youtube.com/indisputabletyt The Damage Report ▶ https://www.youtube.com/thedamagereport TYT Sports ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytsports The Conversation ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytconversation Rebel HQ ▶ https://www.youtube.com/rebelhq TYT Investigates ▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. All right. Welcome to the Young Turks coverage of the DNC at the DNC. We are not live from the Polymarket Studio in LA. We're here in Chicago. Thank you, Granite is sparing with you guys. So what you're seeing behind us is the action of the actual convention and media row. And so you'll see politicians and media figures and delegates walk by behind us, which is kind of neat. Obviously we're going to have a lot of guests on the
Starting point is 00:01:12 show throughout the week. We have to have some of the bigger name politicians in Democratic Party, at least on the progressive side. Come join us. Charlie Kirk is going to join us a little bit later here at the DNC as well. So that ought to be interesting. So stick around for that. And we've got some big name progressive guests that are not politicians. And they're also going to be here. And then of course, we're going to do play-by-play coverage of all the speeches here at the DNC and some big ones tonight. Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden. The good news is they're getting those out of the way on Monday, but also there's sandwich in between progressive speeches. So AOC and Jamie Raskin are going to be speaking. So a lot of.
Starting point is 00:01:57 both the progressives and some of the more disliked old school establishment figures out of the way on Monday for better and for worse, right? So all that is coming up. We also have the news of the day for you guys, including Kamala Harris, continuing to surge in the polls significantly, but the possible curveball that I've been warning about is also apparently imminent, which is it looks like a ceasefire deal is going to be very difficult to get, which is what we're going to start within a second. There's protests here about it. We covered that earlier in the day. And we'll share some of that with you as well. But the contours of that look like they could force a war in the Middle East, which then throws everything into doubt. So a lot to discuss,
Starting point is 00:02:43 including speaking of things that are in flames, that's Donald Trump's candidate. He's punched himself in the face several more times since we last spoke to you. So a lot to cover. Casper, We're good to be back with you. Thank you. For the audience, it's good to be back. I'm very jet-lagged. So bear with me as I tried to present the news of the day to you all. A lot going on today, obviously. And so I really wanted to spend some time at the top of the show discussing the ceasefire negotiations, the breakdown of negotiations. So let's get right to it. All right, so Secretary of State Anthony Blinken has made his ninth trip to Israel in the hopes of reaching a ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas. Now, while the U.S. has expressed optimism that a deal can be reached, Lincoln also stated something that I thought was really fascinating during his meeting with Israeli President Isaac Persog. So with that in mind, let's take a look at what he has. This is a decisive moment, probably the best, maybe the last opportunity to get the hostages home, to get a ceasefire, and to put everyone on a better path to enduring peace and security. I'm here as part of an intensive diplomatic effort on President Biden's instructions to try to get this agreement to the line and ultimately over the line.
Starting point is 00:04:12 It is time for it to get done. It's also time to make sure that no one takes any steps that could derail this process. And so we're working to make sure that there is no escalation, that there are no provocations, that there are no actions that in any way could move us away from getting this deal over the line, or, for that matter, escalating the conflict to other places and to greater intensity. Now, if this is indeed the last opportunity to forge a ceasefire deal, we're in a lot of trouble because there is no ceasefire deal. And that has been made clear by Netanyahu. So as the Biden administration continues to give you this faux optimism, which I'm honestly incredibly sick of hearing about because it never really comes to fruition, just keep in mind what you're about to hear from.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Netanyahu later in this second. So real quick, I should note that Israel says that 111 hostages are still being held in Gaza if they genuinely cared about returning those hostages. They would agree to a ceasefire, but they haven't. Thirty-nine of those remaining hostages are presumed to be dead, which honestly shouldn't be surprising given the, you know, bombardments that have been going on in Gaza, the fact that Israel has cut off food, water, electricity. Now, Blinken says, again, now is probably the best and maybe the last opportunity to secure the ceasefire deal. But why? Like, what makes this different? Blinken is also seen standing next to Herzog in the video that you just watched. But it's really
Starting point is 00:05:53 important to also understand the kind of rhetoric that you hear from government officials in Israel in regard to the Palestinian people. Because how do you make a ceasefire deal with individuals who see all Palestinians as terrorists. And if you're wondering what I mean, take a listen to what Herzog had to say. In the last 24 hours, we've made this ongoing terror attacks by Palestinian terrorists.
Starting point is 00:06:24 So that's a short clip, but I think it's really important to be precise in your language. And when you say Palestinian terrorists rather than Hamas terrorists, I mean, you give the game away, right? the bombardments that have killed 40,000 people, you know, in the Gaza Strip, they want to make you think like, no, no, no, this wasn't intentional. We're only targeting Hamas.
Starting point is 00:06:48 40,000 people gone, dead. Yeah. Okay, and you referred to them as Palestinian terrorists, as if all Palestinians are terrorists, as if they're the ones, all of them carried out this attack against Israel. Yeah. So that's the problem. What is the Israeli officials are saying is a problem. But the very core of the problem is,
Starting point is 00:07:05 this ceasefire deal appears to be totally faked. And it looks like what Lincoln is doing now is just, he doesn't, I don't think he's trying to get a ceasefire deal. I think he just went there to do Israeli propaganda. And so let me explain what I mean by that. Because earlier, that wasn't the case. Lincoln and the U.S. offered a real deal in the beginning of July. And both Israel and Hamas seem to accept it.
Starting point is 00:07:29 In fact, Israel seemed to have originally drawn it up. And so that's what the U.S. said for a minute. And we told you now later they'll fall in back in line with Israeli propaganda. So because at the time they were trying to pressure them to take the deal, but Israel said, no, we don't want the deal. And remember, the U.S. is never going to blame Israel. They're always going to blame Hamas, no matter what happens, no matter what the reality is. But we had a brief window of truth there from the American government where they were like, Israel, this is your deal. Why don't you just take it, right? And so they changed the deals.
Starting point is 00:07:58 So now what I looked for in this was, okay, but what are the terms? Because if they're, essentially the same as the July terms, well, then you're going to get to a deal because they both had already in essence said yes before Netanyahu blew up the deal. So when you look at the deal, no, it's the hardline Israeli position. Yes. So they want the Philadelphia quarter, which is at the southern border of Gaza. They want another strip that goes right in the middle of Gaza. So they're saying we're going to go back to the occupation. We're going to take land in Gaza. We're never going to leave. And by the way, we also no longer agree. to a permanent end of the war. So what is, what are the Palestinians getting out of this? Seesfire. Yeah. But it's interesting how during this current war, all of a sudden, the definition of a ceasefire completely changed.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Seasfire means you ceasefire. The war ends. Yeah. Now all of a sudden it's like, no, no, we'll do a two week pause. And then phase 28 might be a six week pause. No, is it a ceasefire or is it not a ceasefire? Okay, this is ridiculous. And honestly, it sets a precedent that I'm concerned about when it comes to future conflicts,
Starting point is 00:09:09 not just between Israel and Palestinians, but in any war, right? Like, all of a sudden, the ceasefire doesn't mean ceasefire already. Yeah, and so let me be clear about that, guys. So we want the hostages back and we want peace so that the U.S. doesn't have to fight anybody's war in the Middle East. And we want Israel to be safe and we want Palestine to be safe and for all this to come to a net. And you can do that if you just go back to the July deal that both sides had originally agreed to.
Starting point is 00:09:37 But if you keep insisting on the hardline Israeli position of we're going to continue to occupy Gaza, but not only that, after this ceasefire period ends, the first one is in six weeks. And you give us all the hostages back. And there's a second one and then you get more hostages. But then all the hostages are back. Then we're going to go back to the war. Well, why would anybody agree to that, right? And so you can say, Hamas should agree to that.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Okay, great, I wish they would agree to that, but they're not going to. And in fact, I wish they would agree to that permanent end of the war, which they have. But I don't want them to agree to giving up land in Gaza. So Jesus, how much more occupation do you need? So that's saying, hey, after I killed 40,000 of you and 90,000 wounded and I've displaced 85% of the people of Gaza, now I'm going to take your land and not give you anything in return in terms of a permanent ceasefire or into the hostilities. And then of course, American, so right now what Blinking is doing, that's what I'm telling you, it's just marketing. So that I would be shocked if Hamas agreed to that deal. And so, guys, the thing
Starting point is 00:10:40 that that's going to unrelease is then Hezbollah and Iran are going to strike back for their capitals being bombed in Beirut and Damascus. So when they strike back, we're going to be in the middle of a giant war because Israel said, no deal. And I guarantee you, go read any of the articles on what the deal actually is, and you will see that we're 100% break. And then go watch mainstream media as they will lie to you as a giant factory of propaganda. They will all tell you that Hamas said no to the peace deal. And that is just not true. It was Netanyahu ruined the deal we had in July and now says, no, I give nothing in return. So of course he doesn't want the deal. It would end his career. So this is sick.
Starting point is 00:11:24 So let's get into specifics. Because I think it's important to understand. what both Hamas is saying and what Netanyahu is saying. So Hamas says, suggestions of progress are in illusion with differences said to include whether Israeli troops will be required to withdraw fully from Gaza as Hamas insists. Now, in a statement on Sunday, Hamas accused Israeli prime minister Netanyahu of putting obstacles in the way of an agreement and setting new conditions and demands with the aim of prolonging the war, which is what Netanyahu. who has been doing from the very beginning because it serves his political interest.
Starting point is 00:12:01 He wants to remain in power and the best way to do so is to prolong the war. It added and holds him fully responsible for thwarting mediator's efforts and obstructing an agreement. Now, Hamas source also told Saudi media that the proposals that they reject include the IDF maintaining a reduced presence along the Philadelphia corridor, as Jenk had alluded to earlier. No permanent ceasefire. So a ceasefire deal means you get a ceasefire. A lack of a permanent ceasefire means that this isn't a ceasefire deal. The terms of the rejected deal would also prevent the free movement of Palestinian civilians
Starting point is 00:12:40 from southern Gaza to northern Gaza. And Amaz is like, that's untenable. No, we're not going to accept that. And so Axios reported today that behind closed doors, Netanyahu is reprimanding his own officials for trying to reach a ceasefire deal. Netanyahu's negotiating team briefed him on Sunday that if he gave them more wiggle room, a deal might be possible. Netanyahu refused to budge and reprimanded them for caving to senior Israeli officials tell Axios. And so this has come at a massive cost to Palestinian civilians, okay?
Starting point is 00:13:17 To Israeli civilians, I mean, they're living in fear because now you have Iran. you know, threatening to target Israel on their land. There was recently an attack in Tel Aviv. And so is this making Israelis feel safe? I'm sure it isn't. And then it is dragging us closer and closer, the United States government, to a war with Iran,
Starting point is 00:13:42 which would be a complete, and utter disaster, okay? And it's just, it's devastating when you hear the very specific story. So I want to give you some examples. So far, as I mentioned earlier, more than 40,000 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza. One of the latest horrific examples was an Israeli airstrike on Sunday that killed a woman and six of her children. Four of those six children were quadruperts, gone, wiped out, dead in one Israeli air strike.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Mohammed Awad Khatab, who is the children's grandfather, said his daughter, a schoolteacher, was with her husband and their son. six children when their house was struck. He said the children ranged in age from 18 months to 15 years and that four of them were quadruplets. He told reporters outside of a hospital that the six children have become body parts. They were placed in a single bag. What did they do? Did they kill any of the Jews? Will this provide security to Israel? And of course, it won't. Because this isn't really about providing security for Israel. Okay? This is about a far right government led by a far right prime minister who doesn't care about anyone's safety, he doesn't care about the hostages, he doesn't care about Israeli civilians. He certainly doesn't care about Palestinian civilians. He cares about his own power and maintaining it. He doesn't want to leave office. He certainly doesn't want to stand trial for the corruption charges that he has been accused of. This is all about Netanyahu and what's best for Netanyahu. It is disgusting. And lives are being lost as a result of it. But he doesn't care. He doesn't care. Yeah. So look, last thing I'll say on this is because you will see wall-to-wall propaganda on mainstream media,
Starting point is 00:15:27 don't forget what Axios reported that Anna just read. His own negotiating team told Netanyahu, we could have a deal here. We can get the hostages back. We can have a ceasefire. Just need a little bit of wiggle room and we're good. And Netanyahu told him, no, that is two senior Israeli officials telling Axios that story. That's not Palestinians. That's not human rights groups. It's not even reporters. It's two Israeli officials saying we could have a deal right now, but Nanyahu refuses to budge because he doesn't want a deal. So do not believe any lie. Look, if you say to me, hey, you should hate Hamas and you should hate what they did on October 7th. I hate what they're doing what they did on October 7th. I don't, I think terrorism is a terrible idea. When Hamas does it,
Starting point is 00:16:17 I think terrorism is a terrible idea when Israel does it. So that's easy, guys. That's easy. But can you get to a peace deal that actually works here? And we had one. And in fact, we can have one right now if you believe senior Israeli officials. But instead, Netanyahu says no. And you will hear all of American media lie in the upcoming days and say that Hamas said no when it was in fact Netanyahu who said no.
Starting point is 00:16:45 And so now we'll go to war, and then you'll be forced to pay for it. And some of you, maybe if it gets bad enough with your lives or your kids' lives, when we could have had a deal today, and I don't want you to forget that. That story is a perfect lead in to what's currently transpiring here at the Democratic National Convention. So let's get into that. Over the course of the week, there are at least six major protests planned. The demonstrations kicked off on Sunday on the eve of the convention with a march for bodies outside unjust laws, which was organized by a coalition of several different activists groups to demand action on reproductive rights,
Starting point is 00:17:44 LGBTQ rights and on the NN to the war on Gaza. Free, free Palestine. Free, free Palestine. Free, free Palestine. Now there's clearly increased excitement toward Kamala Harris, now that Joe Biden has dropped out of the race, and Harris is the Democratic nominee. However, not every Democratic voter is fully on board
Starting point is 00:18:09 with the Harris Wall's ticket, and pro-Palestinian demonstrators have decided to move ahead with the demonstrations surrounding the Democratic National Convention. Now, just a little bit about the protests, large-scale protests are planned at the Israeli consulate in downtown Chicago and in the streets and parks near the convention on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. There are some protests taking place today as well. But there is an entire like schedule of protests and demonstrations that will take place throughout the entirety of the Democratic National Convention. Now, what is the Harris camp doing to reach out to these demonstrators?
Starting point is 00:18:50 Because keep in mind, like the strategy, and I think it's a smart strategy by Harris, is to respond to some of the negativity in the Trump campaign with joy, with positivity, with a positive message. But it's kind of difficult to do that when Biden and Harris are being protested right now by pro-Palestinian protesters. So she has tried to reach out to them On Thursday, for instance, Julie Chavez Rodriguez, who's Harris's campaign manager, flew to Detroit to meet privately with Abbas Aloha, who's a Michigan delegate to the convention representing uncommitted primary voters. She also met with Arab American and Jewish leaders. Then you also have senior officials from the DNC holding meetings on Thursday with other uncommitted delegates in Chicago. And they're also planning to hold daytime panel discussions during the convention with Palestinian Americans.
Starting point is 00:19:42 including uncommitted delegates and with Jewish Americans. But there is a lot of disagreement about this when it comes to some Jewish Democrats. In fact, they want Harris and Tim Walz, her running mate, to essentially show voters that they will not concede to the demands of these demonstrators, that they will not be cowed by the left flank of the Democratic Party. In fact, they were pretty irritated by Harris reaching out to the organizers of these demonstrations. So they're the founders of the protest group, the uncommitted national movement. And so they had suggested that after meeting with Harris or representatives for Harris, that she was open to an arms embargo.
Starting point is 00:20:30 That is what they're demanding, right? That the U.S. government stopped sending military aid to Israel as they are committing these atrocities in the gospel. a strip. And also, by the way, in the West Bank, let's not forget about that. But the vice president's national security advisor, Phil Gordon, rushed in to say, no, no, she's not open to an arms embargo. And by the way, Phil Gordon, I think, is telling the truth. I think that's absolutely right. I don't think she's open to an arms embargo. Now, Palestinian rights organizations say that the request of uncommitted delegates for primetime speaking spots at the DNC were just rejected, rebuffed.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Of course. Yes. So I want to get into what the polling indicates because unfortunately, and this like really, really breaks my heart and pains me. But based on what the polls say, Kamala Harris seems to be able to do this without much political ramifications. I think those polls are totally skewed. And I'll tell you why in a second. But they're not useless. They do show some things, but not exactly how they're framed. So first, though, Look, let's talk strategy, okay? Because I'm a person who gives no ground on rhetoric, and I'm not going to accept things that aren't true at all, okay? And I'm going to stick with what is reality. We're not going to give in to Israeli propaganda or U.S. propaganda. At the same time, I'm practical.
Starting point is 00:21:56 What is our goal, eyes on the price, and the war and the occupation, okay? And that's what we've got to get to. So as I'm reading these stories, and they're taking quotes from Arab-American leaders, Muslim leaders, peace leaders, et cetera, but also pro-Israeli leaders, right, within the Democratic Party. And the pro-Israeli leaders say, well, look, there's no, you might as well come to our side 100%, because you're never going to get these protesters to agree with you. So they're never going to be satisfied. They're never going to be satisfied. They're unmovable and unreasonable. So you're never, even if you give them a concession, it's not going
Starting point is 00:22:27 to be enough. So you might as well just get our votes. And when you look at it, you go, well, just from a, not from a policy or a moral perspective, but from a political perspective, that could be compelling to the Democratic Party, right? But then when you look at the next sentence, though, it gives away the game. Because that person says to, in that case, Politico, they go, well, that's because, of course, the Democratic Party would never cut funding to Israel and would never do a weapons embargo and would never not agree with everything Israel says. So that's why the Palestinian side is unreasonable.
Starting point is 00:22:58 No, no, brother, that's why you're unreasonable, okay? So the Israeli side demands 100% on what they want. And then they say, look at the Palestinian side and the peace side. They're demanding one thing like a weapons embargo, not cutting off all funding, not all the different things that we could do to check the Israeli government, just a weapons embargoed, right? They're like, can you believe they had to nerve to ask for one thing? You see how unreasonable they are?
Starting point is 00:23:27 No, I see how unreasonable you are. Yeah, the entitlement is infuriating to say the law. least. And, you know, if there was a recent attack on Tel Aviv, okay, and obviously horrific, not in favor of any of that stuff, civilians should be safe. They shouldn't live in fear. I don't care if we're talking about Palestinian civilians or Israeli civilians, period, end story. But it is amazing to me that a single Israeli civilian died. Oh, I mean, you'll see the Israeli officials come out, give statements about it, talk about it. about humanize them, about how many kids they had, what kind of music they liked, because they
Starting point is 00:24:06 see their fellow Israelis as human beings. But they do not see Palestinian civilians, including literal children as human beings. They have so effectively dehumanize them. And I'm not just talking about far-right Israeli government officials. I'm also talking about, you know, people in this country, within our own government, who have gone so far to dehumanize Palestinians that they They don't care. They look at the numbers. They see the rising death toll. They read the stories about a woman and six of her children being wiped out in a single Israeli air strike. It's Hamas's false. Yeah, that's what they always say. They're constant, honestly, I'm sorry, but stupid refrain is Hamas made us murder all the Palestinian civilians. No, they didn't. You have agency. You didn't have to drop a 2,000 pound bomb on families. You You didn't have to drop 100,000 bombs in civilian areas and then pretend that somebody made you murder all those people. No, you chose to do that if you're Natyahu and this grotesque right-wing Israeli government. So guys, back to strategy and practical side. So the Palestinian side
Starting point is 00:25:18 and the peace side here in America, what did they want? Okay, so they want a weapons embargo. And that's pretty much the only thing they're asking for. In terms of the ceasefire deal, Now Israel is asking for further occupation of Gaza. They want to put two quarters in and keep that land. And so, but the, and I went and talked to protesters today. I talked to Jill Stein. I talked to people organizing the events and the protests today out in the streets. And so they're not even saying, hey, no occupation of Gaza, which they definitely should say, right?
Starting point is 00:25:52 They're not asking to end the occupation of the West Bank. Those are all things we want and those are great. But that is not part of the ceasefire deal. And that is not what is being asked of Kamala Harris right now. That ask right now is very, I don't even think it goes far enough. I would cut funding to Israel in order to put pressure out. But the thing that I care most about and what the organizers care most about is get to the result either way.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Get to a real ceasefire. And however you do it, you know what? You don't want to do it with a weapons embargo or cutting funding. You find a different ingenious way to do it. Great, who cares? Get to the ceasefire, save those lives. That's what we want. You can't be more reasonable than that.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Now, look, a lot of times the protesters have terrible optics, and they'll come in with, like, weirdo mass and do graffiti and stuff. Or cheap things that are dehumanizing toward Israeli civilians. Right. And remember, that's not anywhere near the majority of the protesters, but there will be some people that do things like that, whoever they are. Okay? So then the press will come out and say,
Starting point is 00:26:48 oh, yeah, they're all pro-Hamas, they're all terrorists. Everybody who wants peace are terrorists. They'll say insane things like that, right? So I get that the protesters sometimes are not the best on optics, but what they're, but their core ask is super reasonable. And is Kamala Harris or Tim Walz or anyone in the Democratic Party going to give it to them? Absolutely not. So that pro-Israel person that talked to political in a sense they're not wrong. They're saying Israel wants 100 percent and the Democratic Party is going to give us 100 percent. So stop pretending to the peace protesters
Starting point is 00:27:21 that you're in favor of peace or you're in favor of Palestinians or treating them like human beings because we all know you're not because we already paid you. We already paid you to be indecent and immoral to Palestinians and to continue this war. So guys, look, there's a lot to be excited about here at the DNC. Telling Harris and Tim Wolves are doing great job on other things like in populist economic positions, etc. But the world is not black and white. It is not binary. Their position on Israel is awful and is enormously unlikely to ever change. And they think, oh, it's okay. Every once in a while will say, oh, we think Palestinians are also human. Good enough. No, not good enough. That's, I mean, like, thank you for acknowledging that they exist and that they're
Starting point is 00:28:06 human beings. But, Jesus Christ, that bar is so low. And until we stop financing the slaughter of those human beings, your words are empty. I'm going to say something that might upset some people, but I just have to get it off my chest. Democratic voters have shockingly low standards. And so the second that Biden dropped out and it became clear that Harris was a presumptive nominee, I can't emphasize enough how disappointed I am in progressive and leftist Democratic voters who immediately decided to fall in line and become like obsessive promoters of Kamala. Harris without using any of their leverage whatsoever. Because look, why would Kamala Harris do anything
Starting point is 00:28:54 for you if you're already supporting her preemptively no matter what? Yeah. I'm sorry. I mean, that's just the truth. No, no, I know. I know. So look, guys, but those same like leftists are then going to turn around and be heartbroken when she doesn't give you an inch on Gaza. She's not going to give you a inch on Gaza. She's not going to give it to you guys. Why would she? So look, what what I'm saying and what we're both saying is, can we please be realistic in both directions? So if she's terrible on Gaza as almost every American politician is, that doesn't mean she's terrible on everything else. That doesn't mean that you should hate her forever, okay? But if you're telling everybody, oh, it's a beautiful new day, Kamala Harris is going to agree to everything progress is one,
Starting point is 00:29:36 including on Gaza, you're just setting up your audience for disappointment. And then they're going to be more mad at her because they're going to think that she somehow betrayed her own values or turned around. No, she was never anything but 100% pro-Israel, right-wing Israel, Netanyahu Israel. So stop lying to your audiences. That's just that she's some sort of godsend who's going to give you every miracle in the world. She's not going to do that. Okay? And then don't turn on her and be like, oh my God, I was heartbroken because I'm an idiot and I don't know politics. And I didn't know that she was an establishment Democrat. And I can't believe she's agreeing with Israel. Of course she's going to agree with Israel. You apply pressure
Starting point is 00:30:14 so that she does not. We save human lives. But in order to do that, you don't give away your cookies in the beginning, like Anna said, don't go in and go, oh, my God, it's not Biden. She's going to give us everything. No, no. No, okay, you have to fight for those positions. They're still Democrats.
Starting point is 00:30:30 So finally, you know, earlier we talked a little bit about how Kamala might just be able to give these demonstrators the middle finger and it won't necessarily hurt her politically. And what am I referring to? So there was new polling data by the University of Chicago and Jen Forward. And they found some mixed results when it comes to Democratic voters under the age of 40. So here's what they found. 36% of them disapproved of military aid to Israel while 33% approved and 29% really had no opinion. The poll showed that the Gaza war ranked near the bottom of young voters' concerns well below immigration, economic growth.
Starting point is 00:31:13 income inequality. Yes. So there's two notes of caution there. But at the same time, just like we always tell you, not binary. So when you look at that poll, if you thought that 100% of the American people were on the side of cutting off A to Israel, wiki, wiki, that's not the case. So there are plenty of people who disagree with us. Okay. But at the same time, look at the framing of the question because they didn't ask, hey, are you in favor of a ceasefire? Because that would have gotten about 70, 80, 90% of young people, people under 40, saying, there in favor of it. If you said end the occupation, again, it would have been a giant number in favor of ending the occupation. And that's not theoretical. There are polls that have those numbers.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Yeah, so this poll is you want to cut off military aid, which again, if you only watch mainstream media is considered like sacrilege, like it's almost against Jesus and God to cut off military aid to Israel because all mainstream media has ever said is, Israel is the most holy and moral, traitorist ally democracy that we have ever had. And we must give them all of our money, et cetera, et cetera. So now when you ask, should we cut off military aid, which in Washington is super extreme, yeah, the plurality of under 40 voters say, yeah, what you think is extreme, we agree with, right? And so the framing of the question is enormously important. And then they ask, hey, where do you prioritize this? And I get it. Like, if you're a young person, like, why would
Starting point is 00:32:41 told you that ahead of time. Of course, they're going to prioritize the economy, health care, things like that, jobs first because it affects them more, right? The fact that Gaza doesn't affect their real lives at all, and they still have it high on the list and they care is amazing. And it's wonderful. And it's very moral of younger Americans to care about someone that isn't even in this country. Right. And so, and then the last thing, guys, is even if an issue comes in number seven, number 13, number four, whatever the number is, some issues have outsized impact because of the moral clarity involved, right? So it could be a tiny issue, but if it looks like, hey, you know what, the people on that
Starting point is 00:33:25 side are the ones that are clearly immoral and it gives you pause about them as human beings, then that issue could have an outsized impact. And the reason why you're seeing so many protests and so many young people that are animated about this issue is because to them, it provides moral clarity on the character of our politicians. So if they take it for granted, oh, don't worry, it's a little bit lower priority for younger voters. Don't worry, only a plurality of them want us to cut off military aid to Israel. I think that they're going to make a mistake because a lot of those younger voters, which, by the way, they now have back. They regain 20 points, just like we told you, okay, among younger voters.
Starting point is 00:34:07 But some of those voters will go back when they realize, no, she's not going to give them. them anything. And guys, the most important part is, unfortunately, this is the one issue that everybody pays attention to. And I say unfortunately, because I wish they paid more attention to the drug companies, the oil companies, et cetera, that are robbing us blind. But on this issue, it's super clear that any politician that's saying, that's okay, we're going to keep sending money to kill more Palestinians. They're only doing it for the donor money. And everybody knows that. So when you say, hey, I'm doing it for the donor money implicitly, that's going to hurt you. You could believe me now or you could believe me later. I mean, well, I've been through
Starting point is 00:34:42 this movie 200 times where they'll say, oh, no, no, we don't believe you. I saw that one poll that was framed right. And I think we could ignore this issue now. And you'll ignore it at your peril. And then after she's hurting the polling and now there isn't that much time left, maybe they could, you know, try to adjust. But they won't because there's, I again, look, maybe it's a different time. She picked walls. She did economically popular's proposals. Maybe she'll do the right in the third miracle here, but if you're expecting a third miracle, don't hold your breath. I would be shocked if any establishment Democrat ever veered an inch from giving Israel every amount of money they have ever asked for. All right, we got to take a break. When we come back,
Starting point is 00:35:22 we'll get a little into the polling on the election overall, the national polling, how Harris is performing in the battleground states. And honestly, Trump's awful reaction to all of it, he really is his own first enemy. So we're going to get into all of that and more when we come back. Don't miss it. All right, back on TYT at the DNC here, Jane Hugar, and experiment with you guys. And I'm going to do a little bit of a long. long list of all these beautiful people who gave through t yt.com slash dnc to help bring us here
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Starting point is 00:37:03 In fact, we should talk about the latest polling and how she is increasing her lead against Donald Trump. Kamala Harris is now leading Donald Trump by six percentage points in the latest ABC News, Washington Post-Ipsos poll. That is a dramatic turnaround. Harris is holding a 51% to 45% lead among the likely voters nation. New polling in the lead-up to the Democratic National Convention, an event that we're currently at, indicates that Harris is, in fact, increasing her lead against Donald Trump in the national polls, which is a big deal. Usually when you hear about the Democratic contender leading, especially when it came to Biden, he wasn't quite leading enough in the national polls to put Democratic voters minds at ease.
Starting point is 00:37:55 But things are starting to change now that Kamala Harris is the Democratic nominee. So a new ABC News, Washington Post, Ipsos National Poll, showed that Harris is, in fact, leading by six points among likely voters. So take a look at this. Harris is at 51%, whereas Donald Trump is at 45%. Now, in addition, a CBS News, Yucuff poll gave Harris a three-point lead nationally. But while Harris has that lead when it comes to the, you know, national polling, a CBS News, you gopull, the same CBS News Goffold found that she is, in fact, tied with Donald Trump in some of the critical battleground states. So take a look at this. Yeah, it's plus three nationally for Harris. But the fact is that while everyone's opinion
Starting point is 00:38:44 counts in the nation, it's not the national popular vote that decides the presidency. It's the battleground states, the ones that happen to be closest. And that our estimate is, is even state by state. They're all close. That's what you need to know. So what does that mean going to the convention, Vlad? Let me show you this first and foremost. We got here back to this even race where Joe Biden had been trailing. Because when Harris became the nominee, we saw a boost in enthusiasm among Democrats. More of them starting in July and heading into right up to now keep saying they're going to vote. What does that tell you? Tells you part of this convention is going to be Democrats trying to keep that enthusiasm going.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And look, while she is pretty much tied with Donald Trump when it comes to the critical battleground states, I want you all to remember how much worse things were when Biden was the Democratic nominee because he was not tied. In fact, Biden was. losing in the critical battleground states. So according to the CBS poll, the percentage of Democrats saying that they definitely will vote has actually gone up 6% since Biden dropped out of the race. So take a look at this.
Starting point is 00:40:05 You know, back in July, let's go back to the previous graphic, please. So if you look back in July 18th, when it came to Democrats, 81% of them said that they're very likely to vote. That has now increased to 87%. So that's a big deal. You know, people were planning on sitting out the presidential election and not casting their ballots because they weren't really excited. And Harris has managed to excite Democratic voters. More of them are now planning to vote. Other polls have, by the way, found that Harris has gained a small lead in the critical battleground states. In fact, potentially large enough to give her the electoral college majority that she needs in order to win. And that includes advantages that she's holding in at least four state polls, including Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:40:55 But again, it's still very close. According to the latest 538 polling averages, Trump would only need to flip one of the three blue wall states, Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin, in order to win in November, as long as he takes all of the states where he is currently ahead of Harris in polling averages. So I give you that caveat because it's an important caveat. It would be a mistake to get too confident, too cocky. This is still going to be a close race.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And it's important to keep that in mind. Yeah. So look, guys, you should definitely be excited by these numbers, but not overly excited. So let me explain, give you the full context. So we told you Biden was down in the national polls and by the end it was getting to three, four, five points. That's disastrous, totally unrecoverable because you got to have the Democrat win by five in the national polls. Now, as Anna read you, the first poll, she's up by six. So now we're at a bare minimum. We're back in it, 5145, right? At a bare minimum. In fact, if that was, if that's definitely true, then she wins if the election was held today. Okay. Now, again, the other poll shows you the blue
Starting point is 00:42:07 wall. These are the three states that Democrats absolutely positively need. Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania are now all in Harris's camp by at least four points. And those, You just have to win by one vote. You don't need to win by five points or anything along those lines. Now win by more than one vote, otherwise Trump will cry forever and ever and ever. So we'll like a hundred million mager guys, etc. But those are the three states you need and Arizona. She's also leading by four.
Starting point is 00:42:37 So she's got one more than what she needs. But is this a comfortable margin? No, no, not at all because a lot of this is within the margin of error. A lot of this is one poll or two polls. not a collection of a number of polls. So if the election were held today, I think Kamala Harris would squeak it out, but I'm not at all sure. Trump still has, it's still close to 50-50 if it were held today.
Starting point is 00:43:00 So now, the good news is momentum is massively on Kamala Harris's side. So we're surging and going into the Democratic convention and other lots of bad news here for Trump. So you're supposed to get a bounce from your convention, but they stole his convention's thunder by Biden dropping out 72 hours after the convention. Kamala Harris coming in. That's it. There goes all their good press. It's over. Now the press all goes to the Democrats. Then she did smart things to get more people back. And in fact, now she's regained the youth vote by about 20 points. She's regained the black vote by about the same margins as Democrats
Starting point is 00:43:42 historically win the black vote. So about 10 point loss there for. Donald Trump, these are all incredibly good signs. The only giant note of caution, the small one is, hey, this thing's not over. And even now, after all these good gains, we're still at near 50-50. But the big note of caution is many things can happen, guys, including what looks like it might be imminent. That's why we led to show with it earlier, is a potential giant war in the Middle East. And so what happens with a, if that breaks out, No one knows. I don't even know. You know how I love to predict things, but you need information before you make predictions. Otherwise, it's ridiculous and silly. We base it on information. And you can't possibly know what's going to happen from a war. So we'll have to see as things go along. But there are still significant curveballs ahead. So this is not the time to celebrate. It's time to double down on the energy to make sure that it keeps going in this direction. All right. Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll get into how Donald Trump is reacting to all of this news, including the fact that Kamala Harris has basically increased her lead in the polling. Don't miss it.
Starting point is 00:45:13 All right, back on the Young Turks at the DNC, Jake Gugger, and I can sparing with you guys. Also, Calvin Revere, Diane Vassur, and Jeff McElroy. You know how I read folks who just join by hitting the join button below or through t-y-t.com slash team when I read your names? Well, now you're at the DNC with us. You make this possible. And by the way, keep going if you can, please at t-y-t.com slash DNC.
Starting point is 00:45:37 You guys are all with us here in spirit. We appreciate you guys and appreciate all the folks who showed up with the fundraiser. yesterday in Chicago. All right, Anna, what's next? Well, let's get to our next story because Donald Trump is having a rough time reacting, responding, strategizing to his new opponent in this presidential race. Let's take a little bit. I don't ramble. I'm really smart guy, you know, really smart. I don't ramble. But at the other day, anytime I hit too hard, they say he was rambling, rambling. And I feel I have an obligation to speak and speak in a certain way and speak a little bit longer.
Starting point is 00:46:17 You know, how would you like it? A guy's waiting with this family for three and a half, four days. They have a tent. And the tent is set up. They have hundreds of them. And they wait. And then I walk in, speak for 15 minutes and leave. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Somehow, would that be okay, North Carolina? I don't think so, right? Well, I don't think the rambling is the problem. It's the content or the statements being made in the middle of those rambling sessions. And it's not helping his campaign. So he has essentially decided to ignore the advice of his campaign staff and go on this, you know, massive bender at both his Pennsylvania rally and also online. And he's continuing to make statements that's helping Kamala Harris. increase her lead in the general election. And that's according to the polling. Now, the rally
Starting point is 00:47:10 over the weekend was supposed to serve as a bit of a reset to Donald Trump's campaign. That didn't happen. Now, as part of the strategy, his staff prepared this written speech that focused heavily on economic policy. Like, hey, Trump, go back to your greatest hits. It's the populist messaging that really helped you in 2016. Go back to that. That's what voters want to hear about. Some Republican strategists had hoped the former president, could regain the initiative by zeroing in on issues which opinion polls say voters have greater trust in Trump than the Democrats, such as inflation. However, Trump's having difficulty sticking to that message. Obviously, Kamala Harris has managed to get under his skin and she's on his mind.
Starting point is 00:47:56 And so take a look at how he decided to essentially go off message, go off that strategy, and instead attack Kamala Harris. Who would believe this, 80 days from now, we are going to defeat a communist known as Kamala Harris, she's a communist, most radical left person ever to run for office. This is not what this country needs. We've had enough of them. This is communist. This is Marxist. This is fascist. But you know what? It's dangerous because she's saying that she's going to give away things that she'll never be able to get approved. Look, people say, be nice. Have you heard her laugh? That is the laugh of a crazy person. That is the laugh of a crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:44 It's a laugh of a lunatic. Have you heard? You know, they prohibited her. They prohibited her for laughing. I've been waiting for her to laugh because as soon as she laughs, the election's over. You know, what I was looking at, at in that video, Jank, wasn't Trump. I was listening to Trump, but I was watching his fans behind him and how distracted and uninterested they appeared to be in what he was saying. And I think
Starting point is 00:49:17 that this is a huge misstep by Donald Trump. Because remember, what voters found appealing about his message in 2016, the reason why, honestly, a lot of Bernie voters ended up switching parties and voting for Trump is because of that economic messaging. And now here he is speaking out against those economic policies that his voters had previously found appealing. Yeah. Right? So, yeah, there's a lot to respond to there. So first off, he says, they say, I'm rambling, but I don't ramble.
Starting point is 00:49:51 And then he goes on to ramble. I mean, and epically so. And then he did an ode to rambling. So which one is it, brother? Do you or don't you? And this rambler doesn't know when to hold them and when to fold them. He never folds them. He always goes on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:50:08 If you've worn your own MAGA audience, then, you know, you're not doing it right. And so he's not playing the greatest hits. He used to do that. He'd say build the wall, lock her up, etc. You could say, hey, I don't like that. But his fans loved it. And he would talk to Anna's point about economic populism. He didn't mean it, but at least he was savvy enough to pretend to give you things.
Starting point is 00:50:34 right? He's totally lost the threat on that because he just rambled his way out of what he was actually campaigning him. So now that Kamala Harris is taking economically populist positions, Trump is defending corporations. He's defending his owners. That's a great way to lose. So he's just absolutely ruining his own campaign. And he responds to every attack line. You're not supposed to do that in politics. He's just, not right. So like when they call the defense now. On nonstop. They called him weird and he's like, they call me weird. I'm not weird. I'm not weird. You look weird doing that. Why are you responding them? I'm calling you weird. And then they call you a rambler and you're like, I'm not a rambler.
Starting point is 00:51:20 It reinforces that you're weird and you're a rambler. And now the most important thing, Anna is he's as usual, but now he can't contain himself. He's obsessed with himself. So he's not talking about the people at all. That's a huge misstep. That's a huge misstep. In fact, what you just watched, it didn't end there. Let's take a look at the next clip. I mean, Time Magazine, think of this.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Time Magazine doesn't have a picture of her. They have this unbelievable artist drawing her. And I said, is that Sophia Lauren? I couldn't. Who might that be? Is that Elizabeth? They say she was a beautiful woman. Who is it so beautiful drawing?
Starting point is 00:52:07 It's a drawing. They took a lot of pictures that didn't work out, so they hired a sketch artist. I said, I'm sure they must be celebrating the great life and times of the magnificently beautiful Sophia Lauren. I mean, I read a so-called Republican, who Ronald Reagan didn't like, by the way,
Starting point is 00:52:29 and she didn't like him, but she got credit for being this Reagan speechwriter. Reagan speechwriter. She said Kamala has one big advantage. She's a very beautiful woman. She's a beautiful woman. So I decided to go back and reread the clause. I'm not saying he's but I say that I am much better looking than her. I think I'm much better. I'm a better looking person than Kamala. What? What? Why would voters care about that? Like, what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you like, what? Yeah, no, this is madness. So, first of all, why did you, no, but hey, the Rambler, why did you wind up giving five minutes of your speech to how hot Kamala Harris is? Like, first of all, before you even got to how you're hotter, which is just, just, insanity. They're fine. Right? Why are you talking about her looks for so long? Is she
Starting point is 00:53:39 surveill Lauren? Is she Elizabeth Taylor? I couldn't tell. What you couldn't tell? Elizabeth Taylor is dead. And Elizabeth Taylor is very white. Like what are you talking about? This is not like this is nonsense. Like this is so dumb, right? Like I it's laughable. Like we're talking about a presidential election guys. I don't care about anyone's looks. Okay, the country's falling apart. Like, what am we doing? Yeah. Yeah, no offense, Bernie, but we were for Bernie Sanders and we weren't for Bernie Sanders because he was odd. Yeah. Okay, that's for people not that bright who were like, hmm, I like shiny objects. And that's how Trump thinks. So that's why he thinks, I wonder if people are voting for Kamala Harris because she's hotter than me.
Starting point is 00:54:26 No, you idiot, you're the one who thinks like that. And guys, look, even if you're MAGA, if you didn't think that he was a lunatic before, you really think that Donald Trump at 78 and 300 some odd pounds is better looking than Kamala Harris? Like, I know who cares, but do you understand that that's detached from goddamn reality? Like, you sound like cuckoo for cocoa pops. Anyway, Nughofer is one of our members on Twitch. And they had an interesting theory as to why Trump said the weird thing about how he's more attractive, right? They say, the reason the crowd booed Trump when he said Kamler was an attractive woman is because to them anyone of color can't be attractive. Then when Trump says I'm more attractive, the crowd cheered, not because of a conventional definition of beauty, but rather
Starting point is 00:55:31 because he's white, they're deeply racist. Look, I don't know about the racist theory, et cetera. But it is true, and we saw it with your own eyes. He's talking about, oh, she's so attractive. And they're like, oh, grumble, right? And then he says, but I'm hot. And then I'm insane. This whole thing is insane.
Starting point is 00:55:52 I just, I can't. I can't believe how much he has bungled his own campaign. Like, he's totally lost. I really did think, okay, like they've been very strategic over at the Trump camp. I remember being at the R&C and actually being impressed with how he was sticking to the script, how he was going along with the strategy, and it was working. And now it's like he's totally discombobulated over Kamala Harris being the Democratic nominee. 100%.
Starting point is 00:56:23 He should have expected it. 100%. His campaign should have expected it. And they should have strategized and he should stick to the strategy, but he can't help himself. He's totally discombobulated. And Anna, I got to say one thing about what we're using. So we're at the DNC right now, as you can tell, right? We were at the RNC a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:56:39 And I was shocked that they didn't see it come. Me too. Yeah, I mean, we, because we were there on Thursday, word spread like wildfire that Biden might drop out, right? But I was like, but on Monday through Wednesday, I was like, you guys, are you not aware that there's at least a really, really good chance that Joe Biden's going to drop it? I thought it was at 100% turned out I was right, but a lot of people thought, okay, maybe 70%, 50%, 30%.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Like if I thought, oh, there's a 50%, 30% chances my opponent's going to drop out, I would make contingency plans. And I wouldn't get caught off guard, right? That entire place was caught off guard. They couldn't believe it. And they thought they'd already want. In fact, let me just weigh in on something. I remember being at the R&C, Jank had a trip plan to Europe. And I remember Jank talking to me about, like, Biden's going to drop out this weekend. I think I'm going to cancel my trip. And I thought that was a crazy idea. But he did it.
Starting point is 00:57:36 He did cancel his trip so he could be here to cover that story. So you definitely expected it like anyone paying close attention to politics should have, including or and especially the Trump campaign. Anyway, let's get back to the story because, look, him saying I'm more attractive. than Kamala Harris is obviously weird. It is. It's just a weird thing to say. But it's especially weird when you consider what Trump had to say last week. So let's go to that. I saw a picture of her on Time magazine today. She looks like the most beautiful actress ever to live. It was a drawing. And actually, she looked very much like a great first lady, Melania. She didn't
Starting point is 00:58:27 She didn't look like Camilla. That's right. But of course, she's a beautiful woman, so we'll leave it at that, right? So are you saying you're more attracted than your wife? No, I haven't thought of that, transit of property. Of course, if you told him about the transit of property, he'd be like, I don't know in that one, so I don't know what you're talking about. I put my name on it, make money off licensing my name. Why don't we just take out the incentive and put it in an ump, and then it'll be Trump property. Okay, so again, you know, we covered that last week for you guys. It's, I don't know why he's imagining Kamala Harris's wife in some weirdo, bizarre thing that he shouldn't be talking about at all, why he's fixated on our looks.
Starting point is 00:59:07 But most importantly, guys, his inability to pivot is actually kind of stunning. Look, it shouldn't be stunning to me because you've heard me say a thousand times how unintelligent I think he is. But even so, he keeps using talking points about Biden. Yeah. So, like, he'll even go to like, oh, Biden was too old. Brother, that was a million years ago. You're not running against Biden anymore. And at this point, you're 20 years older than Kamala Harris. You've got to stop talking about age. And by the way, a poll showed, as you would expect, the number is 100% flipped from 31, Trump having a 31 point advantage among people who are concerned about the candidates age and health.
Starting point is 00:59:51 He had a 31 point. Now he has a 30 point deficit. So if you're a Republican, you want Trump to about age, but he's still talking about age because he can't get off his old talking points. That shows total incompetence. And you just don't, you're supposed to be attacking Kamala Harris on her policies like immigration crimes. I mean, I don't want to do your job for you, but those are like those are the obvious things to do. If you're a Republican, you should be 10,000 times angry at him. It's all right. I mean, honestly, if he could think straight and just get out of his feelings for a minute. It's a bit of a layup because think about it. Kamala Harris is currently running
Starting point is 01:00:29 on the things that she's going to do if she gets elected and she's in the White House. She's in the White House now. I know. I don't even want to give them tips. I know now a lot of people watch the show. Is she heard this advice? I'm sure he's heard his advice. I know. Campaign managers aren't idiots. They've actually given him really good advice. He can't help himself. And look, I actually want to admit that I was wrong about something. The thing that I've always given Trump credit for is I felt that he understood marketing. He understood how to sell it. And right now he's flailing and his messaging is so disastrous.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I'm like, man, I guess I was wrong. Maybe he doesn't understand. Yeah, I saw Bernie speak earlier today. And he's still totally the same Bernie as he was before age catches up with you at different times for different people. And so you know that I haven't thought that Trump had an age problem because I'm like, look, if you think the things he's saying is crazy, he's always been crazy, right? And he's always been unintelligent, et cetera. But now for the first time I'm beginning to think it might be an age issue. Because like those fantasies about how Biden will come back into the race. Like I don't know if you saw those anna when you were away, but he kept talking about like Biden could come back. I think Biden's going to come back. And he's going to take the
Starting point is 01:01:49 retake the nomination at the DNC. Not only is that cuckoo for cocoa pops, but that's like devolving in a way that is, that's more than I would have expected. Like, you're not running against Biden. This is not a complicated issue. Like, hey, if you say he doesn't have a good health care proposal, of course, it's a complicated issue. He couldn't possibly have a decent proposal for health care and he knows it, right?
Starting point is 01:02:16 But this is not complicated. running against Kamala Harris, not Joe Biden. And he doesn't seem to understand that. So he is an absolute hot mess right now. All right, let's take a break. When we come back for the second hour of the show, we've got a lot of fun stuff prepared for you all. We will have Charlie Kirk on,
Starting point is 01:02:38 which I'm looking forward to because I'm curious what he thinks about how Trump is behaving and how he is bungling his strategy here. And I'm very curious what his temperament is going to be. Right. When they thought they'd already won, he was very pleasant. Cordial, pleasant, right? So let's see. I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:02:58 So let's see what happens tonight. So stick around for our tune with you right back.

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