The Young Turks - Don't Come Here

Episode Date: June 9, 2021

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All right, Cass, we've got amazing stories for you guys. We had odious stories as always, because it is the news. But we also have fun stories, dolphins getting high. That is my favorite story of the day. It really is. No, dolphins literally have a method of getting high, and they do, in fact, and this is quite literal, puff, puff pass. They do, they do. Yeah, don't get too much away.

Don't get too much away. So I won't tell them that there's a war on dolphin drugs? Don't let the government know. Those pharmaceutical companies, they'll end it. Yeah, Trump right now is going, there's a lot of dolphins coming in from Mexico. We've got to build a seawall. Okay, anyways. Oh, no, he's mentioned the word Trump.

Okay. All right, we've got a story as I tell you there. Casper, take it away. All right. The debate over a $15 an hour minimum wage continues. All of these companies that are having a difficult time luring workers back to the work because they refused to pay a living wage, continue to whine and cry about the difficulty of finding labor. And so Fox News, a reputable news organization, decided to tackle this difficult

issue by bringing on a former Reagan economics advisor who, of course, said the most disgusting and deplorable things. Let's watch. For those people, Sandra, who are coming into the labor force brand fresh, not old timers who've been around for a while, the poor, the minorities, that disenfranchised, those with less education, young people who haven't had the job experience. These people aren't worth $15 an hour in most cases. And so therefore, when you have a $15 an hour minimum wage, they don't get that first job. They don't get the requisite skills to earn above the minimum wage. And after a few years, they become unemployable.

And after becoming the unemployable, they become hostile. And that what you'll find happening is this technology is created an underclass of people who are really just bid out of the labor market and will remain out of the labor market for most of their lives. And this, I think, is just a tragedy. What he's talking about toward the end there is what automation is doing. And he talks about automation essentially leading to unemployment as a good thing, right? Because this is how the market works, guys. This is the free market.

I mean, you got bid out. I mean, you've been working at this job. You've been underpaid. And then you get screwed over with automation. And that's just how the free market works. It's just that we need government intervention in the quote unquote free market when, you know, these corporations commit fraud or they fail. And then they need some liquidity from the Federal Reserve to bail them out.

That's when the free market isn't the talking point that they like to use. But when it comes to wages, that's when they love to talk about the free market. And of course, who does and does not deserve a $15 an hour minimum wage, which at this point, in most parts of the country isn't even a living wage, okay? That's how much inflation has basically destroyed the current wages that we're earning right now, but further made it unlivable, really, even at $15 an hour. But let's not bury the lead there. He just said not only the poor and the young, but that minorities aren't worth $15 an hour.

Yeah, yeah. He just said it. You can rewind the tape and watch. I'm not surprised at all. Minorities are not worth $15 an hour. And that, if you don't know who Art Laffer is, that's not just some rando dude that they found on Fox, like, oh, hey, who can we find to yell at minorities today, right? Well, that's Art Laffer. He's the author of The Laffer Curve, that's the basically supply-side economics.

And the Laffer Curve is appropriately titled because it's a total joke. And the thesis there is, if you tax rich people too much, then you'll get less revenue for the government. That's not remotely true. It's been disproven a thousand times, but it is very convenient. You just needed one, I don't want to say idiot, because they're all making money off of it, right? But you just needed one guy to make up economic theory. And then, because the Republicans don't care if it's true. They've never cared it's true.

By the way, neither do corporate Democrats. But mainly the Republicans and Reagan all relied on the so-called laffer curve to say, oh, no, no, no, don't tax the rich. The rich are the beloved. Now, they need all of the money. They deserve all of the money, and we cannot tax them. But the poor, they don't deserve any money. They don't even deserve $15 an hour.

Minorities, young people, no, they don't deserve anything. And now, then think about, look, the guy has never made sense in his, entire life. He's always been a useful tool for the wealthy and corporations. But think about how little sense he made in the middle there. He says, okay, these minorities are useless and worthless and so are the young, et cetera. But when they were not going to earn enough skills to earn more than that. But wait a minute, if the minimum wage is $15, you can't pay less than that. So if you're going to move up to a manager or to a different position, by definition, it has to be higher than that, right? And he's like, no, nobody will hire them. Why would nobody hire them?

That doesn't make any sense at all. If you start at $7.25, the current federal minimum wage and you work your way up, and as a lot of you know, you work at Walmart, if after a decade or more, you might be up to $8.75. But if you started $15, you would work your way up to $16 or $17. So he says, no, no, magically the markets are not going to work anymore. No one's going to hire anyone at $16, and they're all going to fall out of the market and become hostile. Okay, now, if we're talking about economics, none of this makes any sense, but they're going to become hostile? What does that have to do with economics? Now you're just making stuff up. No, I think that what he's referring to there is the obvious class divide in this

country, and the fact that people have, in fact, become hostile, and they should, in fact, become hostile because we've been going along with this insane economic system that pits workers against one another. And I think workers are starting to realize, hey, maybe we need some solidarity. And maybe we need to focus our ire, our aggression, our frustration toward people like Laffer who thinks that he's worthy of being paid well, even though he has clearly failed his way upward. Right? Like it's, yeah, there's hostility. And guess what? If this continues, that hostility will only continue to grow. It'll only continue to grow. And for all the people out there, I want to be clear about something,

all the people out there, especially corporate liberals and at least some never-Trump Republicans that I've seen on social media, it's real easy to be negative and insulting toward, let's say, conspiracy theorists, like the QAnon people, right? But do you understand why it is that these conspiracy theorists, believe what they believe and refuse to believe anything, any argument that's made on corporate media. The reason why is because they lie to them, right? They lie to them over and over again, tell them, oh, you're poor, it's your fault. Oh, you're in a terrible situation with your medical bills, it's your fault. Pick yourself up by the bootstraps, you get no help. This is the way the system is. We're the greatest country in the world,

even though we have literally hundreds of thousands of homeless people in California alone, literally children living out on the streets. All of these issues, by the way, as dumb as you might think Q&N believers are, are issues that are evident to conspiracy theorists, but they keep getting told over and over again that it's not the system's fault, it's not this rigged economic system's fault, it's their fault, it's their fault, and they're on their own if they're suffering. People like Laffer have led to the current political and economic climate that we're experiencing in this country today. Period. That's just the fact of the matter. People like him have destroyed this country and continue to do so with their disgusting greed and corruption.

But I want to make an important distinction because you're talking about a different hostility than he's talking about. So you're talking about people that make it $7.25. They can't take a single day off from work. I've said this a thousand times because no one else in media says it because they're all junk. millionaires and they don't give a damn about you, right? At $7.25, the current federal minimum wage, you're going to make $15,080 a year if you don't take a single day off, okay? It's insane. It's no sick days, no vacation days, 40 hours a week.

You have to work every day the whole week and you get just a tad over $15,000 a year, right? And now if you go to $15 minimum wage, that's what our laffer is arguing, yes. You can make a little over $30,000 a year. And he says, that's way too much for minority. They don't deserve it. They don't deserve it. But it's not just minorities, okay? He specifically said poor people, minorities, young people.

Like, he's saying all these different groups. This isn't about various racial groups or various gendered groups. It's not about, it's, this is a class struggle, period. What he's referring to there is workers, period. When he says the poor, he means everyone, right? He doesn't think that anyone in this country deserves a living wage, period. That's what he's really saying at the end of the day. Yeah, and again, remember, this is the guy who said we should not tax the rich because they deserve more money.

Right. Okay, so, but getting back to the hostility point, you're saying, Anna, the people making between $7.25 and $15,000 or even more, making $15,000 to $30,000 a year or et cetera, they're becoming hostile because they realize the system is rigged against them. Yes. And they are right, whether they're right wingers or left wingers, it doesn't matter, they are right, okay? The system is rigged against you. So, and we can show you, and we will show you, even on this show, exactly how it's rigged against you through taxes, laws, regulations, fees, et cetera, right? But he's not talking about that. He's saying, if we pay them $15, which they're not worth, obviously, they'll eventually drop out of the workforce because they're useless.

And then they will become hostile towards us. What he's saying is they're bums and they're not going to work if we pay in $15 and they and they're certainly not worth it and eventually we're going to fire them all and then they're going to get hostile because they're not making any money because they didn't earn it like the rich the rich earn and deserve everything and these bums these black people these brown people these young people these poor people these bums are going to get hostile okay first of all if they're driven of hostility at all, if anyone is, it's because of comments like that, where you antagonize them to the nth degree after they've already suffered all that they have suffered. Okay, but the heart of his comment is, they're savages, they're gonna get, they're not gonna work, and then they're gonna get hostile because, you know, poor people, violence is the only thing they understand. And that's always what they say right before they're about to commit violence upon you, okay?

So that is as sick and disgusting a segment as you will see on Fox News, and that is saying a lot. And that is what they think of poor and middle class people in this country. Yeah, I'm just really curious what he thinks failing corporations are when they need to be bailed out by the government. Like, what does he think about them? Because I would argue that those failed business owners are the real bums that need to be held accountable. But, you know, there's a two-tiered system, right, when it comes to government help, when it comes to this type of commentary, when it comes to ordinary people, when it comes to workers, the very people who generate the revenue for these corporations, oh, they're bums if they're just asking for decent working conditions and decent pay. But for corporations that fail, the corporations who have this entire system backing them up, ensuring that they succeed, but yet they still fail and need to be bailed out. by the federal government, they're not bums, right?

I'm sure they're not bums. Well, look, I don't know what Art Laffer's position was at the time, but I can certainly guess it, but I'm not going to, because let's stick with the facts here. Fox News, when the banks crashed the world economy in 2008, who do they support? They supported the banks. They pretend to be populist. And what did they say? They said, because we covered on the show, they're like, oh my God, these poor bankers,

you still have to pay their bonuses. How else could we help them, have them help these companies get back to solvency? What do you mean? We helped them get back to solvency by giving them billions of dollars, trillions overall when you add them all up. And they said, but we need their expertise. No, we don't. They're the guys who crashed in the first place.

But Fox News said, no, you must pay the bankers. They're giant bonuses, even if they're complete and utter failures. Now they bring on Art Laffer to laugh at the poor and the minorities and everyone else. and go, they're not worth anything. They're not even worth $15. By the way, who agrees with them? Joe Manchin and eight Democrats that voted with every single Republican in the Senate. They all voted no on $15 minimum wage.

Joe Biden had his two best friends in the Senate. The two Delaware senators vote no on minimum wage, $15 minimum wage. So you might get mad and you should get mad at Art Laffer and at Fox News. But I understand that a lot of corporate Democrats, and this is important, the entirety, the entirety of the Republican Party, every single one of them are corrupt crooks who hate poor people and middle class people who only serve the rich. And yes, those corporate Democrats, I don't care what any kiss ass of the establishment says are same exact people as them. They vote no, no, no, but press don't criticize us. When the Republicans do it, they're bad guys. When Democrats do it, they do it out of principle.

Principle of what? No, when you see Art Laffer talk like that, that's the same exact thing. Joe Manchin, Chris's Cinema, Chris Coons, and so many other Democrats think. Well, let's talk about the real bums in the U.S. economy, and that's the corporate CEOs who don't pay their fair share in taxes, and now we have some details about the extent to which they're doing that. So, journalists over at ProPublica obtained 15 years worth of tax documents on the wealthiest tax dodgers here in the United States. We're talking about the Warren Buffets and the Jeff Bezos of the world.

And when you compare what their income really is and how small the percentage of taxes they pay, you get a sense of just how rigged this economic system is in their favor. Now before I get to these specific details, I want to note. that I say that the economic system is rigged to their favor because they get to skirt taxes legally. The system is set up this way. So they're not breaking any laws. But for the first time, we really have a clear look, a detailed look, based on tax filings, what the extent of their tax evasion really looks like. So as ProPublica reports, the capture, to capture the financial reality of the richest Americans, ProPublica undertook an analysis.

that has never been done before. We compared how much in taxes the 25 richest Americans paid each year to how much Forbes estimated their wealth grew in that same time period. So you're looking at the growth of wealth and the portion of that wealth that was taxed. And as you can imagine, it was a very tiny portion. According to Forbes, those 25 people saw their worth rise a collective $401 billion from 2014, to 2018, they paid a total of $13.6 billion in federal income taxes in those five years, the IRS data shows. Now, that sounds like a lot, right? That's a staggering sum, but as they report,

it amounts to a true tax rate of only 3.4%. So take a look at what you paid in your federal income taxes last year. I guarantee you it was more than 3.4%. And right now, we're talking about the wealthiest people in the country. We're talking about billionaires who have not paid their fair share. So I'm just going to show one quick graph, and I'll open it up to you, Jank. So this is a fun graph that ProPublica put together. And so it shows you how much the wealth has grown between 2014 and 2018 for each individual. And so for Warren Buffett, for instance, you see that his wealth during that time period

had grown by a whopping $24.3 billion. and when it comes to his taxes, he only paid 0.10% toward taxes. Again, I guarantee you, if you look at your own tax filings from last year, you paid significantly more. You look at Jeff Bezos, his wealth grew by $99 billion between 2014 and 2018, and he paid less than 1% in federal taxes on those earnings. Let alone the fact that this corporation, Amazon, oftentimes also paid 0%. So don't get it confused. The company pays nothing, then Bezos pays nothing.

That's right. It's literally one of the richest companies in the history of the world, and he is the single richest man in the history of the world. And yet they're paying, he's paying less than 1%, and you're getting your ass handed to you on taxes. In fact, I'm going to give you more details on that in a second. So in a comparison, look, I want you to understand the context of this as always. Right now we're having a nonsense debate, a debate that Democrats are going to lose anyway.

Should we increase the top income bracket from 37% to 39.6%. The reason why it's the nonsense debate, and the reason why Biden is proposing him in the first place when he told donors that nothing would fundamentally change is because even if it went to 39.6%, nothing would fundamentally change because they're not paying it. They're not paying any of those taxes. So it doesn't matter if it's another 2.5%. Yet the Republicans make a big deal on, oh my God, the poor rich. Oh, the rich, how could you do this to our friends and allies?

Look, I'm not exaggerating. The Republicans are fighting tooth and nail for that extra 2.6% that the rich aren't even paying anywhere. Okay. Now, by the way, let's be fair. There's a lot of stratification of the rich, right? Doctors, lawyers, accountants, if they are making it to the top bracket somehow, a lot of them will pay taxes because they're earning income, right? But if you're super rich, none of this matters. Yep, none of it.

So it's all a joke, and the politicians know it's a joke, and they have this kabuki theater where they do fake fights, and then they let the rich get everything and pay almost nothing in taxes because they're rich fund their campaigns. It's so simple, not a single reporter in the country reports on it when they're covering politics. Thank God for ProPublica, which is independent and did a fantastic job here. Now, we're going to give you an infuriating follow-up in a minute about how the Biden administration reacted to this. But I want you to understand this fact that I want to tell you guys, okay?

By the end of 2018, so they're looking at this time period, pro-publica explained that the 25 richest people were worth $1.1 trillion. It's just 25 people worth $1.1 trillion. How many Americas do you have to add up to get to that same amount of wealth? 14.3 million people, 25 people have the same wealth as 14.3 million people. Okay, that's one thing, but that's not the mind-numbing part. The part that's infuriating is those top 25 on their wealth paid $1.9 billion in this stretch that ProPublica looked at.

I'm sorry, in 2018 alone, $1.9 billion. Okay, well, then how about the 14 million Americans that have the same amount of wealth as those 25 guys. They probably paid a little bit less than $1.9 billion, but God, you know, the risk should pay way more, right? Mm-mm. You sitting? Why just survive back to school when you can thrive by creating a space that does it all for you, no matter the size. Whether you're taking over your parents' basement or moving to campus, IKEA has hundreds of design ideas and affordable options to complement any budget. After all, You're in your small space era.

It's time to own it. Shop now at IKEA.ca. The American, the 14 million combined, paid $143 billion in taxes. So the richest people in the country only played a little less than $2 billion. You all paid $143 billion, $143 billion out of middle income, middle income, Americans and poor Americans and all the rest of us, okay? So this, when people say the system is rigged, the mainstream media usually jumps down their throw, oh, go, conspiratorial, what do you mean rigged?

It's rigged through the tax system, you morons, but they're not morons. They're all rich. Every cable news anchor is a multi-millionaire. And so, and it's not just, it's not that they do it actively, like, oh, Cuomo gets together with Tucker Carlson, they high-five about how they lie to the American people. No, they do it because they don't know anyone poor. Everyone they know is a millionaire. They get taxed the same way as the rich do.

And like, you got to understand there's just a significant difference in how earned wages get taxed versus how keyboard pushers get taxed, right? I'm talking about people who spend all day speculating on the stock market, right? Or who do investments. Capital gains gets taxed at a much lower rate. And what they do is they pit their losses through investment. against their wealth made through investments, and through those deductions, they end up getting massive tax breaks. Like, the way they earn their money, if you can even call it that, is through these investments, through the speculation. And that's it, that's it. And the fact that that gets taxed at a lower rate than the actual hard work that workers put in to various companies, to earn the revenue for those companies, to make sure those companies are up and running.

Those wages get taxed, as you guys know, through the brackets that get reformed every once in a while, if you can even call it reformed. But it's just insane. It's insane that, like, what you earn through capital gains is like, what, 15% taxed? Now it's, I believe it's 20%. And to be fair to the Biden administration, they claim they want to move it up to 39.6, but only for people make it over a million dollars. Okay. Now, there's no reason why capital gains shouldn't be the same exact thing. as your normal wages, okay, tax is the same rate. They say, oh, no, that would discourage investment. Even Warren Buffett has said, that's nonsense.

No good investor would say, no, I'm not going to invest my money and make money because you're increasing my taxes a little bit. Of course you would continue to invest, otherwise you'd make no money, right? I mean, it's such an obvious lie. It's the most obvious lie of all time. And yet every Republican says it and half the Democrats say it. So capital gains should be increased instantly. But I got to be honest, I was a little, like the wealth tax makes sense in some ways.

But then I'm worried about a couple of aspects of the wealth tax before when Elizabeth Warren introduced it. And there was a big discussion about it early in the 2016 campaign, et cetera. But this story makes me think, oh, right away, wealth tax. Yeah, of course. And so, and here's why, guys. And you can do different layers to it, too. because I get why the tax system is set up the way that it is in terms of realized gains. So let me explain that to you and let me explain why it creates too big a loophole.

So they said, look, let's say that you bought some stock for $100, it went up to $1,000 or $1,100 to make the math simple. You made $1,000 in that scenario, right? But you didn't actually sell the stock or you could do it in real estate, et cetera. But you didn't actually sell it so you don't have the cash. So now it's much more important when it comes to, for example, real estate than it is stocks, because you could sell stocks pretty easily, but it's much harder to sell real estate. They're saying until you get the cash, you shouldn't have to pay the taxes because you don't have the cash. Now, if you're normal rich or, you know, beginning to get into that economic strata, then okay,

That makes some sense, okay? But now you know what the ultra-rich you're doing? You're saying, okay, well, I got $100 billion sitting in stocks. I'm not going to get any income. Why would I get it, right? I'm just going to leave it there forever and ever and ever and never be taxed on it. And then if I need money, one of the things they can do is sometimes they do is they just borrow it. So instead of paying 37%, they borrow at whatever small thing because they're good for it.

There's no question, right? They're going to get a very low interest rate, and that way, and sometimes that could count against like paying even, that make them even pay less taxes, right? Yeah, because they get a tax deduction for the interest that they pay on that loan. Yeah, in some circumstances they do. So the bottom line is it creates a giant loophole where they never, ever sell anything, and they still have that same money that they can spend endlessly anyway. So, and now it is very hard to see an argument against the wealth tax. Let's say, put it in a stratospheric number, above a billion dollars, for every dollar above a billion dollars, right?

Are you, are they really going to say, oh, no, man, this is going to discourage me from working? I mean, if I'm only, if I'm taxed above a billion dollars, oh, my God, and what was about wealth tax you proposed, 2%. So if you're Jeff Bezos and you're like, oh, my God. my extra $99 billion or my extra $126 billion, I think that's where he is it now, is going to get taxed 2% every year. Whatever will you do? You'll be just fine. So this is, it's beyond outrageous how this system is completely rigged in favor of the rich. If you're super pissed about that, you are actually

correct. All right, we got to take a break. We'll be right back. Thank you. All right, back during the social break here, let me read some of the comments, Captain Corball says Laffer uses the poor in the same way that Biden talked about, poor kids are as good as white kids. He did say that during the campaign. Yes, it was a slip-up, but yes, it gives you his state of mind. It just does.

And so the elite are all very similar in this sense. Ecclecting miscellaneous, there's all in our member section, t.com slash join. You could go through t.yt.com slash change now because we're, yes, we're trying to bring positive change in the world. Wish us luck. Don't just wish us luck to join us and help us make it. In fact, Bill Lockridge just did that by hitting the join button below on YouTube. That's another way to sign up. Anyway, Eclectic Miscellania wrote in,

I agree they don't deserve $15 an hour. They and every worker deserve at least $23 an hour, which is what the minimum wage would be if it actually kept up with inflation. That is true. There are some like Joe Sandberg who are pushing for $24 or $25 minimum wage in place like California, which has a much higher rent, housing costs, inflation, you name it. If it's $15 an hour in Florida or in other places, he makes the argument that it should be much higher and at least keep up with inflation in California.

Now, I'm going to go to Super Chats here. YTP Renewed made a great point. If they aren't worth $15 an hour, how did them mark? pay it. So I wish I'd made that point during the segment. So tons of European countries pay $15 an hour or more, including for their fast food workers, et cetera. And none of those companies went bankrupt. None of them did. And the people of Denmark didn't all of a sudden all become hostile and drop out of the workforce. Art Laffer is a complete and utter fool, but he's a very useful idiot for the Republicans. Jack Donovan says, it was great seeing Anna on the

damage report this morning. A double dose of salt dragging is just what I needed today. Kevin C says, hey, TYT, fam, I got my first Pfizer shot today. So I guess I'm one of them people now. Another reason for the crazy Trumpers to hate me and I'm okay with it. Yeah, God bless. Who cares if they hate you? Let the dumbasses do whatever you want. Make sure that you're safe and get the vaccine. Drink that OJ writes in on Twitch. Love TYT. Thanks for always keeping it real. I subscribe via the main site and watch the show there, but I'm still coming back to Twitch to give you my Bezos bucks. Am I an American hero?

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And we appreciate it. Elder Pulse just gifted five subs. Sorry, gifted three subs. Obi-Mom Knobe, of course, gifted five subs, and we got more for you when we come back. All right, back on TYT, Anna. All right. Representative Alexandria Ocasio,

is not pleased with Vice President Kamala Harris's speech in Guatemala, where she encouraged Guatemalans who are potentially thinking about migrating to the United States to stay in place and not come. Seems like AOC doesn't think that Kamala Harris deserves any cookies, and I agree with her. No cookies for you, I'm sorry. So the Biden administration keeps talking about how VP Kamala Harris is taking care of the migrant crisis and she's going to Mexico, she's going to Guatemala to handle it. Except her way of handling it is essentially telling Guatemalans that they shouldn't do something that is actually legal in the United States, which is seek asylum. Let's watch.

I want to emphasize that the goal of our work is to help Guatemalans find hope at home. At the same time, I want to be clear to folks in this region who are thinking about making that dangerous track to the United States-Mexical border. Do not come. Do not come. We, as one of our priorities, will discourage. illegal migration. And I believe if you come to our border, you will be turned back. So let's discourage our friends, our neighbors, our family members from embarking on what is otherwise an extremely dangerous journey. But what about legal means of immigration?

The legal means that Donald Trump had crippled under his leadership. Biden claimed that he is going to be different, but so far I haven't seen a difference in the way that he's handled immigration. And AOC called that out, saying first, seeking asylum at the U.S. border is 100% is a 100% legal method of arrival. Second, the U.S. spent decades contributing to the regime change and destabilization in Latin America. We can't help set someone's house on fire and then blame them for fleeing. And look, we've talked about how U.S. foreign policy has destabilized Latin American countries like Guatemala. I'll give you those details again. But this is a classic case of the U.S. government pretending as if we're being victimized by something, when in reality, the very

thing that we're complaining about is what we contributed to is what we caused. Jake, what do you think? So the Biden administration is unsurprisingly stuck in the 1990s. So Biden thinks that he's going to get credit from Republican and independent voters if he meets Republicans halfway on immigration. Now, to be fair to Biden, the mainstream media thinks the same thing. So they keep attacking Biden, not on all of his failed promises where he was going to be FDR 2.0. No, they love that he's failing on all of those. They keep attacking him from a right-wing perspective. They ask, Lester Holt, to ask Kamala Harris.

Have you been to the border yet? Have you done a what? A photo op at the border? What kind of a useless question is that? Have you done the proper theatrics yet? The Republicans are displeased. Who gives a damn about the Republicans? They're not in charge, right?

But Biden does care about them. So he says Kamala Harris to go yell at people in Latin America. Don't come. Don't come, okay? It's ridiculous. How many Republican votes you got from that? Zero, zero. I don't know, we're never going to get through to Biden.

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Who he was from day one. The reason everybody voted for him is because at least he wasn't going to end democracy. Okay, that was a very, very, very low bar. He cleared that bar, and he hasn't been able to clear much since then. I don't care what any person in Washington says about how great he is. He's not going to save it either, that's for sure. Well, he's not going to save it if he doesn't do a goddamn thing unless the Republicans come back in charge. So now, let's mention the other part of it, which is that, man, did he stick Kamala Harris with political dynamite here, right? So she's got to be pretty furious about it. There's no question that Biden told

her to say, don't come, don't come. And now, you know, I got no love for Kamala Harris. And so I know people, oh, good you, she's seeing it means so well. How do you know she means well? How do you know that? Why do you trust politicians that take corporate money? Like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I know they seem to be serving corporations and they seem to be going three quarters of the way

towards the right wing, but I believe she's such a good person based on nothing, based Sub-theatrics. So does Kamala Harris have a similar position to Joe Biden? Yes. Does she like having to hold this bag of poop, which is the border crisis, so-called border crisis? No, no. Biden's like, oh, maybe you're thinking of running in 2024?

Here, here's the goddamn border. My biggest problem from the Republicans. And so he thinks that's his biggest problem overall because progressives who gives a damn about them, right? He goes, you go deal with him. And then you go yell at Latinos to not come, even if they have to flee. violence that we partly created, and that's what she had to do there, and that's what happened. No, you're right. That is what happened. And I, look, I know you weren't trying to provide any

excuses for that speech she gave, but I also have absolutely no sympathy for any type of backlash that she's currently getting as a result of that speech. I'm tired of the apologist for Kamala Harris's behavior, not just as VP, but when she was a prosecutor, in California, right? The, well, what could she do? I mean, this is just what the system is and she had to operate under that system. And even though she was in this wonderful position of power where she could have actually changed the system, she decided to go along with it. But what could she do? No, I'm not buying it. Even if Biden sent her there, no one forced her to say the words don't come. No one forced her to spread the same kind of talking points that the Trump administration

did in regard to asylum. Obviously, there are legal ways to get, to migrate to the United States. And what she said in that speech was a little too vague. Like, she mentioned a legal immigration at one point, but she's making it clear she doesn't want any of them to come. And for any U.S. politician, whether they're Democrat or Republican, to utter those words, given what the U.S. has done to Guatemala specifically in backing a coup in the 1950s, which destabilize that country, it's disgusting and it's wrong, period. We have to take responsibility for what we've done in the United States, in destabilizing other countries.

These things aren't happening to us. They're happening because we were the catalyst that led to the crises that we're experiencing today. That's it, period. When climate change and extreme weather conditions happen, they're not happening to us. We're not victims. We played a huge role in making it happen. You get what I'm saying?

Like, I'm tired of this like, no, no, this is, we're victims. What could we do? No, there's a lot we can do. There's a lot we can do. And it's first take responsibility for what we've caused. So I advocated for whatever it's worth, which is very little, for a Marshall Plan for El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. And so why? Because Marshall Plan's work.

It's the single most successful foreign policy action the United States of America has ever. ever taken when we rebuilt Germany, Japan, and that's not all. They also rebuilt, Greece, Turkey, and many other countries after World War II. And so what it did was it turned our worst enemies. And Germany, after fighting them in World War I and World War II, was by far the worst enemy the United States of America had ever had, right? We turned them into our top allies. And we turned them into economic powerhouses, which we then traded with, and we all got richer.

And we took that shining example of what to do right, and then we threw it in the garbage. And so we said, oh, okay, I got a new idea. Let's just attack everyone. Let's bomb Iraq. Let's bomb Afghanistan. Let's do coups in Latin America and Africa over and over again. Let's steal their resources. And if they ever do a democracy, and they say, hey, this is the resources of the people,

including in Guatemala, let's crush their democracy and pretend we're fighting communism. Those are all facts. If you don't know it, you're ignorant. That's okay. I love you, go read up on it, okay? And so now what we could do is we could fix it. And one of the great things about fixing it is, then you wouldn't have as much illegal immigration, because then their economies would, do we have an outpouring of illegal

immigration from Germany or from Japan? Scandinavian countries? No, because we help rebuild them. And they're great training partners, and they don't have to flee Germany. Last time, by the way, after World War I, we didn't do that with Germany. Instead, we crushed them. And what happened after that, World War II? So we already know what works and what doesn't.

And instead of Biden, a so-called Democrat, going down there in Kamala Harris and saying, guys, we got you. Okay, we're going to have the courage to invest in these countries because we think it's going to help us and you, right? They go down there and they yell at him. Don't come. Don't come, don't come, okay? And that's just stupid old Washington thinking by Biden and Kamala.

And guys, last thing is, please, please do nuance. I don't understand anybody in any camp that just never says, oh, no, that my camp is never wrong. We've called out AOC before. We've called very much called out Bernie. We've called out everybody that is in our so-called side, okay? It depends. What did they do?

Did they fight? Did they not fight? Which policy were they for or not? But there's mindless people on all sides. I'm a Kamala Harris fan. So I think this great to yell at Guatemalans. She's so great for yelling at Guatemalans. She's the best.

Why? Why? Why do you do that? Why are you? And I only, it's only because of this story that I'm picking on K-Hive or whatever. But it applies to almost all the camps. They just shut off their brain. No, Biden is the best.

Kamala Harris is the best. I'm not going to think about it. No, Biden and Kamala Harris are the worst. I'm going to help Trump. What? What? Just please do nuance. I think the worst thing that voters could do is play into the very intentional cults of personality that both parties create in order to distract us from the issues that we should be critical of.

And so there are no friends in politics. And I'm specifically talking about these people in positions of power. We're supposed to have this type of tug and pull relationship with them because they're supposed to sort. serve our best interests. And if you have like this, if you fall into this like cult of personality culture where you think that like one politician or the other can't do any wrong, then you're not going to be able to do what you're supposed to do as an active member of a democratic process. Hold them accountable, pressure them and get what you want. Make them bend to your will, not the other way around. Anyway, we got to take a break. But when we come back, Rudy Giuliani's

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She will take it under her advisement. I can't speak for her. I think she'll take it under advisement. Definitely. Okay. And then I've got to read one that was so good from our member section. Oh, what's the antimatter, wrote in? Why didn't somebody tell Kamlo's parents not to emigrate?

Okay. Now that is powerful and I wish I had made that point. That's why you guys are so smart and I look down during the, you know, the stories and sometimes I catch them and sometimes I don't. But I love you for making that comment. That is super strong and true. Parents are from India and Jamaica. If somebody went and said to them, don't come, don't come, she would never been vice president in the first place. We'll be back.

All right, back on TYT, Jank and Anna with you guys, Anna. CNN has obtained audio of the conversation that Rudy Giuliani had with Ukrainian officials when he was pressuring them to announce a sham investigation into the Bidens to help his Donald Trump out with his chances of getting reelected. So we have a few snippets of the audio that they obtained. It doesn't really change much in terms of what was reported previously. Much of this conversation had been reported, it's just that the audio hadn't been obtained. Now we have audio corroborating what was initially reported.

So let's take a look at the first clip. All we need in the president is to say, I'm going to put an honest prosecutor in charge. He's going to investigate and dig up the evidence that presently exists. And if there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election, and then the Biden thing has to be run out. I don't know if it's true or not. I mean, I see him. bragging about it on television.

And to me, as a lawyer, to me as a lawyer, it sounds like a bride. Somebody in Ukraine's got to take that seriously. In the Ukrainian presidential office, they took it very seriously. Then, as now, the country was fighting a desperate war against Russian-backed rebels in its east and heavily depended on U.S. weapons and military aid to hold its ground. So in that audio, Giuliani isn't just pressuring them to announce this sham investigation into the Bidens. He was also saying that they need to look into Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election,

which isn't a thing. That was Trump's conspiracy theory. There's never been any evidence to it. But nonetheless, he wanted Ukraine to take responsibility for 2016 meddling in the election that Trump won, Jake? Yeah, so there's two main asks. One is look into this conspiracy theory and announce that it's true. And second of all, by the way, even our own ambassador that's on the call and is very much

an ally of Trump, et cetera, Al Bulker said, no, there's no evidence of it at all. And he had to say that in congressional hearings. And so it's obviously usual loony stuff from Giuliani on the right wing. But the second part of it is we want you to announce corruption investigation of Joe Biden. Now, Rudy thinks he's clever, as you heard in that tape. He says, now, I don't know if it's true. So he thinks maybe that'll protect him if they ever find out that he's telling the Ukrainians, you're not going to get U.S. aid in the middle of, by the way, a war unless you help us bury our political opponent in this presidential race.

But I said I wasn't sure he was corrupt, I just wanted you to publicly announce a corruption investigation, and then in return, you'd get a visit with Trump and maybe the aid that you're looking for. No, that's the actual bribery. And these guys are so over-the-top corrupt. Yeah. I just don't know that there is any justice in this country, though. No, there isn't.

The rich and the powerful never face any consequences. If Rudy went to jail, I would be shocked. But if you had said that, I mean, I don't know how you would get into a position to say that. But if you committed to something that's outrageously illegal, saying we're not going to send them. By the way, the money that Congress already appropriated, and we are legally bound to save, send to you, unless you help us politically by smearing our opponent, any person should go to jail for that, but the powerful get away with everything. So there is another video that features the audio that CNN obtained. So here's a little more pressuring by Giuliani. Let's watch.

If he could make some statement at the right time that he supports a fair, honest law enforcement system, and that these investigations go wherever they have to go, it's going to be run by honest people, that would clear the air really well. And I think it would make it possible for me to come and make it possible, I think, for me to talk to. to the president and see what I can do about making sure that whatever misunderstandings are put

aside. And maybe even, I kind of think that this could be a good thing for having a much a much better relationship where we really understand yourself. By call's end, the Ukrainian side seemed to understand exactly what President Zelensky of Ukraine was expected to do to keep Washington on side. And on the call at least, they agreed. That Zelensky will say that, yeah. Yeah, good. Second, that would, that would, believe me, Andre, that would, that would be good for all of us. Also, just excuse Giuliani for eating a sandwich while he was scheming.

Turns out that scheming makes him very hungry. Yeah. Yeah. He's talking just like a mob boss there. And it's deeply ironic that many decades ago he used to prosecute mob bosses. Maybe he learned a thing or two. He's like, that talk of like any, again, he thinks he's being clever, but you, my boss has talked just like that and they get prosecuted anyway.

It's not clever at all. Now, that would be good for all of us if you did that. Then I could talk to the boss. I could talk to Trump about your concerns because we have concerns. Oh, now Zelensky's going to do the thing that we're looking for. Well, then that would be good for all of us. And then we would have put aside our concerns. And then, you know, then maybe, you know, your concerns could be addressed.

It's super obvious and he's talking about the aid because they brought up, hey, we need the aid. We're fighting the Russians here. We need the money. Right. And we need to talk to Trump because Zelensky needed that for political reasons at home and for the aid, et cetera. And Rudy is clearly threatening him that unless you do exactly what we tell you, you're not going to get it. And by the way, guys, in the right wing is so easily gullible. If you threaten foreign governments on behalf of America, hey, withdraw your troops or don't do something that's going to hurt America, there's nothing wrong with that. But if you threaten them for your own benefit, make sure you do false corruption charges on my political opponent, that is illegal.

That is using U.S. taxpayer money and endangering our national security for your own personal benefit. Now again, we don't know what this new evidence will result in. In fact, as you probably know, Giuliani is currently being investigated. His home and his office was raided fairly recently. And as CNN reports, there is an ongoing criminal investigation into Giuliani and his Ukraine dealings, including whether he violated lobbying laws while coordinating with ex-officials who gave him dirt on the Bidens, who allegedly gave him dirt on the Bidens. We still haven't seen it, by the way.

The federal inquiry ramped up when the FBI raided Giuliani's home and office in late April. It's unclear if this call with Yermak is part of that investigation. And so that's the other thing. The dirt on the Bidens. So Hunter Biden working for Burisma, in my opinion, was an issue. I don't think that he should be working on the board of a foreign gas company. So that by itself is a problem. It's not illegal, but that type of nepotism, clearly he wasn't an expert and had no real purpose in that role.

Clearly he got that position because of who his father is. Like that isn't illegal. But all of the other allegations coming from the Trump campaign, coming from people like Rudy Giuliani, coming from, you know, right wing outlets like O-A-N, like, oh, we're, don't, just you wait, we've got the evidence, it's going to come out any day now. What's the evidence? Like, what has Hunter Biden done that's literally illegal? I would like to see it.

And I'm open to it. I'm open-minded to it. But they have failed to deliver on that. Really? Right-wing media outlets failing to deliver on privacy. Oh, my God, we're going to release the Cracken, and then you'll see all the voter fraud that happened in 2020. We're gonna release it.

We're gonna release it. Where is it? Yeah. Now the right wing is pretending to be concerned about him allegedly using the N-word. I haven't seen it or heard it yet, if it exists, whatever. But like, the right wing pretending to be offended by the N-word is just, it's the most hilarious thing I've ever heard in my life. Yeah, just shut up. Look, if black folks are, and whoever else is affected,

by Hunter Biden using those words, they have every right to be offended, and that's between that, right? But if you're a right winger whose whole thing is, I don't want kids of culture, a freedom of speech to be able to say the Edward, any black person I want, can you believe Hunter Biden said that NWord? Shut up. Nobody believes you. You guys are all fools. Now, on Hunter Biden, yes, obviously the guy cashed it in his last name. He doesn't know anything about Ukrainian gas. Everybody knows that. And by the way, the mainstream media, when you deny that, like, oh, no, no, he didn't do anything. sensible for him to work on breweries, no, that doesn't make any sense, okay? But Anna makes a great point. If you have evidence on him doing something illegal, unfortunately, that's not illegal to cash in on rich people's names and powerful politicians' names. Just ask Megan McCain. Yeah, it's as American as apple pie.

Yeah, no, but I'm serious. I'm serious. You tell me the difference between Megan McCain, who knew nothing about news or politics, getting all of those incredibly rich offers from places like the view, making way more than Hunter Biden, right, versus Hunter Biden not knowing about Ukrainian gas. So do you think they hired Megan McCain because she's the top political expert? Come on, don't be ridiculous, let alone Anderson Cooper being the heir to the Vandervold fortune and Tucker Carlson being heir to the Swanson fortune, and we can go on and on, okay? So yeah, it sucks that rich and powerful people get more rich and powerful, but is there an actual

crime. And all the people who pretend to be on the left and now crying about, oh, a Hunter Biden's laptop. Did you see the drugs? Who cares? Who cares? You guys are a joke. Absolutely. But look, to be fair, Donald Trump's son-in-law did provide peace in the Middle East. Oh, yeah, yeah. But they're not bothered by that. They're not, no, no, no. Don't criticize anyone related to Trump. Don't do it. No, no, no, no. You can't do that. No. No. Trump's, don't, don't talk I'm sacrosan, because you know, all my Patreon supporters are right week. I mean, I mean, I, hey, you know, he's not in office. And you know, when he was in office, was it so bad?

I mean, the Democrats could be just as bad. Oh, do Biden's the laptop? Oh, that felt so good. All right, we gotta take a break. When we come back, Union delusion, there is a pro-Biden ad out. It was put together by a Union, and I think it's ridiculous. You do not want to miss it, it's one of the most ridiculous ads I've ever. Really? That's funny. Okay, apparently we might disagree because I kind of liked it.

No, no. The ad was great. It was full of lies. Anyway, don't miss it. Second hour. We'll see you in just a few minutes. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work. Listen ad free. Access members, only bonus content and more by subscribing to Apple Podcasts at apple.com slash tYT. I'm your host, Shank Huger, and I'll see you soon.