The Young Turks - Down Goes Stevens - August 5, 2026

Episode Date: August 6, 2026

Conservative Democrats are calling Abdul El-Sayed’s Senate primary victory a political disaster, exposing deep divisions inside the party over its future and its stance on Israel. Meanwhile, Van Jones defends AIPAC during a tense CNN discussion, Jon Stewart reminds John Fetterman that “Israel is not our country,” "Thanks to today's sponsors: Get 40% OFF the Ground News Vantage Plan when you sign up at ground.news/tyt Stay informed without the media spin at ground.news/tyt Visit www.sleep.me/tyt to get up to $255 off your Chilipad 2.0 with code TYT Posting a job is easy at upwork.com Use less data, get paid by switching to Noble Mobile: https://go.tyt.com/getnoble Hosts: Cenk Uygur, Julian Andreone SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞  https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK  ☞   https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER  ☞       https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM  ☞  https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK  ☞          https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH  ☞      https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Welcome to our trash revolution. I'm so upset. Oh my God. The guy. Is in the house. Look at this. All right, Julius from Dropsite News.

Been doing some great work there along with Ryan Grimm and Jeremy Schael and many others. We quote you guys all the time. In fact, we have one of your videos later in the hour. That is a video, the first video that I have not asked any questions. Yeah, that's right, you'll see why in his side guys. So real quick before we get started, since you haven't been on as a guest host before, tell us how you got to drop site news. Yeah, I got to drop site because I met Ryan while I was reporting on the Hill via a program

through Northwestern University, which is where I went to college, and I was interviewing Bernie Sanders in the hallways. And Ryan picked up a quote that Bernie said to me while we were walking. He said to me while we were walking and he posted it, but like the guy that he is, he credited me and I was just a sophomore in college. I didn't really have anybody following my work, but when Ryan Grimm posts your name and your tag, people click on it and they check you out and it kind of jump started, you know, sort of my love for political reporting and people started to actually listen to what I was doing. And then, you know, years down the line, I came to him and pitched him this idea about going

up to the hill and pressing members of Congress and he was all on board. So it's just been, that's what it's been. Yeah, Ryan and I have talked about having a reporter like you doing that in DC for about a decade now. So I'm glad he was able to do it and you've done some amazing work there. So glad to have you. I appreciate that, Jank, thank you. Yeah, no problem.

All right, so on tonight's show, we got a lot of amazing stories for you guys. Obviously the huge Abdul El-Said win and the fallout from it, how is the establishment reacting to it? Hilarious. Federman is in the news, that's one of the clips we're going to show you for you for you. from Julian and John Stewart also great interview with Federman that was in some ways perplexing, right? There's Mamdani derangement syndrome that's later in the show and also later in the show. We've got a bigger Maga Civil War.

This time it's not over Israel, it's over affordability. Oh, interesting. Man, they are at each other's throats, including people within daily wire, the calls from coming from inside the house. So that's amazing. And then finally at 8 o'clock Eastern tonight, we moved Operation Joy because yesterday we had Operation Joy where Abdul El Said won. And today we're gonna have Operation Joy as we normally do it at 8 o'clock.

Okay, so let's get started. Abdul al-Said wasn't supposed to win. He was in third place a couple months back and a lot of the establishment was like, I right the idea that a progressive against Israel would win a Senate primary seat. absurd, no chance whatsoever. And of course, as a lot of you saw, he won. And now all of a sudden, establishment has a new talking point. So but wait, how could they have, what do you mean new talking point?

We thought that this was the race that was gonna decide at all. Haley Stevens, champion of the establishment backed by Chuck Schumer, Kirsten Gillibrand, Gretchen Whitmer, and just about every other establishment Democrat and 62 million in APAC money, and all of cable news. Okay, that's your, that's your candidate. No question. She lost, right? No, no, if you listen to Politico, we lost.

Wait, what? Okay, so here's how they start their story. Progressives didn't get the earthquake they expected. Moderates are relishing in their stronger than expected show it. They're relishing a defeat? I mean, guys, you see it, right? Like they're not even trying to hide it. They're like, yeah, we're propagandists.

We will take a devastating loss for the establishment and for APEC, and we will try to spin it like it's in a centrifuge so that it seems like the person who won loss and the person who got humiliated and couldn't win with $62 million back in her in a primary somehow won and is somehow a moderate. So let me give you more details and then we'll bring Julian in. Progressives, sorry, they say public polling in the campaign is closing stretch. showed El Saeed ahead of Stevens by double digits. And his campaign projected confidence they would deliver a decisive win that would cement the strength of the progressive movement in Michigan,

a state crucial to the Democratic Party's prospects of retaining the Senate in November and eventually the White House in 2028. Okay, so so far, he was supposed to win by a lot, apparently according to a bad poll, but he only won by a little. That's still a win, how could that be a loss? But Bernie Sanders was supposed to get only 1% in 2016. I remember when I said he could beat Hillary Clinton, he was pulling at 1%. Everybody said that's all he was gonna get. He got up to 48%. So apparently that was the biggest win in the history of the world.

Except political said, well, attempt defeat, humiliating failure, he lost. Right, no, I didn't see any of this. Well, we kind of, we was closer than we expected. Who moves on when it's close? Oh right, the person who won. One more, they say the progressive wave never material. on Tuesday. How could you say it never materialized we won?

Anyway, igniting fresh questions about the potency of the movement. So the wind ignited questions about the potency of the movement. They live on a different planet. They continue. Progressive candidates have notched a series of wins, okay, thank you for joining planet Earth. Throughout the spring primary season, and safe and competitive district, so of course it doesn't count. From California to Maine, Michigan, however, was widely viewed as their biggest test yet.

Julian, they're painting it as if we lost when I thought Abdul is going to the general election. Yeah, I mean, I think one thing to really pay close attention to is that this article was published in Politico. Politico is now run by Matthias Duffner, who is running the Axel Springer company. Axel Springer wrote a constitution in 1967 that essentially says that anybody within his countries needs to recognize Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state. And then when Mattias Dafton... Picture this. It's one. you tell yourself just one more scroll through social media and suddenly you're spiraling over the latest political dumpster fire. That spiral doesn't just exhaust your mind. It actually spikes your internal

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On the merits of what they're saying, it makes no sense at all. He was outspent, I believe, 10 to 1. 35 million of the 62 million behind Haley Stevens came from APEC. And their answer, which I think we'll get to later on CNN, was, well, APEC is just a group of people who are giving individually and who care about Israel just a little bit. They're totally out of touch with reality, and there are really two things that could be going on. Number one, they're just that sheltered and that ignorant. Or they're intentionally lying to everybody. And they're intentionally trying to convince people who read their outlet, older folks who aren't exposed to independent media, that this is actually not a big win.

There's nothing to worry about. Just move on to the next one. And the progressives are not doing anything. Don't pay attention. So when we lose, we lose. But when they lose, they win. And I think that if you read that article, some of them might be surprised. They might be expecting Haley Stevens in general election.

Wait, I read in Politico, she won that the progressive movement didn't show up. and they were defeated last night in Michigan, right? So it's just the exact opposite of reality. By the way, so I love the background that Julian just gave you on the people who own Politico. Of course, they never clarify that, they never tell you, oh, by the way, this is Israeli propaganda. We've all signed a pledge to serve Israel, basically. And so if Israel lobby loses here, we're going to pretend they won anyway. And so it's absolutely comical, but it's not just politico.

It's across all of cable news. I mean, as Julian said, later we're gonna show Van Jones nearly crying over the, the, you know, A-PAC loss. A-PAC, on the other hand, brags and says, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, so what, 215-A-Pact-backed candidates won, and they'll be serving Israel. Okay, all right, well, okay, at least you're admitting it. But then when we just quote them, they go, oh, you're an anti-Sem-U, but they said it. They said it. I didn't say it, they said it, right? So, all right, now, of course, the establishment comes in, because this isn't just Abdullah al-Said.

Remember big victories last night. So William Lawrence took out two establishment candidates running against him in Michigan's 7th district. And then Donovan McKinney beat an incumbent. So beating incumbents is huge and of course makes the establishment very angry. That incumbent was a reliable vote for all of corporate America and for Israel and for all the donors. Now this guy Donovan McKinney, he's a DSA progressive. We can't even be counted on to be corrupt. So now they've got to find new excuses.

So here comes Neeratandon. If you don't know Neurotan, she's one of the biggest establishment of hacks in Washington. And to be fair to her, she's willing to be brazen about it, right? A lot of people do it subtly. And they go, hey, Jake, you say it for us and pretend your objective, you know, or all these CNN anchors, et cetera. But she just says it herself. So El Said, you know, is a person of color.

So, you know, Democrats have been saying our whole lives, we need people of color. In fact, near attend and yelled at me just about a week ago when I criticized Jim Clyburn. She's like, how dare you? That's a person of color, right? So let's see what she says now. I'm sure she's going to celebrate it, right? So she says, what I've learned tonight is a lot of pollsters impundits in the Democratic Party ecosystem. I'm very good at talking to white college educated voters like themselves and have real blind

spots with working class people of all races. So wait, but Abdul is a person of color, but now you're gonna take that away from him because you're theorizing that his pollsters are white and only talk to white people, by the way, with no evidence. So somehow the person of color is unacceptable now because he's not corrupt. And that's near a tandem in a nutshell. That was some twists and turns there. And again, they're leaning in on, well, you didn't win by as much as you should have won.

Okay, you give us $62 million next time and all of national media, and we'll see how you do, right? So getting past that was a miracle and an amazing work by Abdul El-Said and by the other candidates as well. So now look, there's good guys on our side too. Aaron Rogenborg on X says, LOL, sorry kids. It's not enough now for progressives to beat the entire Democratic establishment and 62 million in A-PAC and corporate spending against them. Overcoming a nine to one spending advantage is actually only counts if it's a blowout.

And they're making it comical, right? And so now here comes Nate Silver. He also says not good enough. Okay, he says it's clear that progressives are rising in the Democratic Party over overall, but it's but it's also clear that there's a fair amount of race by race variance. But brother, when isn't there race by race variance? So what? What does that prove?

Okay, he says the media like simple narratives and progressives rising is by no means wrong, but nobody should be bending the knee at this point. In other words, now, when the establishment won, I wrote books about how you should bend the knee to the establishment, and the only way to win is to follow what the party leaders say. But when progressives win, but no, no, no, no, don't. Don't listen to them. Don't listen to them. Well, I thought you said we needed to win in a swing state, we won. I thought you said we needed to win in a Senate race, we won. Now, he said, yeah, but the polls were wrong, so it's your fault. What is it, what difference does it make?

Okay, but you see it weeks of desperation. So now we'll get to Trump in advance in a second, but Julian, like, do they not see it? Do you see what I'm saying? Because you're in Washington And you cover these guys and you talk to them. And a lot of people in the audience have a big question mark in their head. Like, do they know that they're being utterly absurd? And they're like, what lie should I come up with this morning? Or is the bubble so thick that they really don't see it? I think it's actually a mix.

I think the bubble is incredibly thick. I think that they are people who never leave their cocktail circuits in New York City or in DC. All of the people that they're hearing from that they're gathering their political worldview from our donors and consultants and other members of the academic or intellectual class. And so from that perspective, you know, you think everything's going great. There's all these people who are who politics to them is an intellectual exercise. They treat it like it's high school debate. They see themselves on one side of the ball.

They see the other people on the other side of the ball. And they always have to take the position against the other side. It doesn't affect their lives materially. But a lot of the people who are winning in these races are going and meeting people on the ground. And I think that Nira Tandon, you brought up her tweet originally, I think Nira Tandon is probably the greatest microcosm of the rot of the political establishment. And I'll tell you why. Nira Tandon is using identity politics as a vehicle to smear people who challenge the economic status quo that continues to enrich people like her. She runs the Center for American Progress.

She's accepted tens of millions of dollars in donations from big tech and Silicon Valley firms, $600,000 from the Mark Zuckerberg Foundation while she was serving at a cap in the first go around before she was rejected by the Senate when she tried to become chair of OMB under the Biden administration. She's somebody who's been a corporatist. She worked in Hillary Clinton's office in the Senate and worked with Bill Clinton. She is a deep, deep pawn of the establishment, but she came from Yale law school. And she doesn't look to understand what's actually going on on the ground by going and talking

to people. She just listens to the people in D.C. and they create an echo chamber around themselves. The other side of it, though, is that I think they do realize that some of what they've come to believe is not actually true. And they're continuing to double down on it because they know that all of these truths that we're all starting to realize would threaten the economic status quo. And again, it's enriching them. And so they're going to try and spin this any which way. And it's that fact paired with their view of politics as this sort of intellectual exercise or super, ball game that sort of dooms them in situations like this where they look more and more

absurd. They're doubling down and people are starting to see through their BS. Yeah, it's breaking down because they used to have a wall propaganda on their side, which was cable news and mainstream media. They still have that. But what the difference is, in my opinion, is that the walls have been breached. So now it's not protecting them the way that it used to. The voters didn't know that there was a different reality. But now most of the voters are on the other side of the wall and realizing, oh, no, you guys have been lying to us. But they're carrying on as if that hasn't happened. They don't even realize, they don't even realize that they are part of the machine that people are railing against.

There were like moderate women in, and I kind of hate that term, but like, you know, generally centrist women in Michigan that they went to go interview on the ground. And they said, oh, I would, I would, I'm a moderate, but I would rather vote for a communist than vote for somebody who takes money from A-PAC and so I voted for Abdul. I mean, they have no clue how pervasive this revolution that's going on is right now. It's going through all, and I don't even mean pervasive with a negative connotation. It is rampant. It's going through all of these communities. And I think it's just, you're just gonna continue to see this boil and boil over.

And the more and more that they don't accept reality, the more and more it's gonna spread and spread because people realize, as you said, they're being lied to. Yeah, you know, it's funny because they remind me of a certain guy. And so I wanna skip ahead to Donald Trump's. quote here about the victory, because you know, Trump lives in a different reality, and now most of the establishment lives in a different reality along with him. So he writes, great news from the Republican Party, El Saeed, a communist loser who hates Jews in Israel, is the projected winner in his race with the socialist.

So he was in a race with a socialist? Is Haley Stevens the socialist? How it's, that doesn't make any sense? Okay, as usual, the polls were way off on this one. She was not expected to do nearly as well as she did. She lost. Now the Democrats, crazy policies will only get worse. Honestly, other than communists, that sounds identical to what the establishment is saying, right?

Oh, this guy who hates Jews because he criticized Israel, right? He's going to lose the general election. I can't tell the difference between that and near a tandem. No, the Republicans are used bigoted attacks to try to smear the progressive candidates. establishment tries to convince you that the progressive candidates are the bigots, and that's their smear. So you got, you know, he's, they're going to, they've already started putting out ads, the NRC, calling him an Islamist and a jihadist. And they have these like weird AI ads that everybody knows our AI, but it's being created by like these old white Republican boomers. So they don't

realize that people hate AI. So they're pushing out these AI ads of him like marching through a city with a pitchfork. And it's like Bernie and AOC like rubbing their hands together behind the scenes. It's all this super weird stuff, but all what they're trying to tell you is, oh, this guy's dangerous, he's evil. They just, Mike Rogers put out an ad this morning or of him talking about the Islam, the, the Osama bin Laden raid and how he played a role in being a part of this like CIA operation to attack Osama bin Laden. And that's why it's so important that you vote for him over El-Said who's going to try and take the state in a wrong direction.

It's like, what? Are you comparing him to Osama bin Laden? Well, I'm sure Jake Tapper and Dana Bash are busy on CNN, going crazy over that. What a bigoted attack. I know they care about bigotry. When it comes to issues about Israel, they won't stop talking about bigotry. Or are they instead trying to convince their new boss, Larry Ellison, who's the largest donor in history to the Friends of the IDF, that they should be the new primetime host on CNN.

It might be that. Of course, they don't care about bigotry at all when it comes to Muslims. So now Jacob Kornblum is a good progressive, and he, did a wonderful job of just quoting APEC sent their letter out, right? And I mentioned it earlier, so I just wanted to make sure to give you the exact quote, so you know what I'm talking about. So APEC put out a letter today saying, yeah, okay, it sucked that, you know, Al-Said won. But he said our members remain, they said our members remain determined to ensure that voters reject Dr. El-Said

and his radical anti-Israel agenda in November. Okay, that means, yeah, we're going to double down if we thought 35 million was a lot. Wait till you see what we spent in the general election and we'll back up Mike Rogers bigotry and do all sorts of anti-Muslims smears, I'm sure, right? But let me be fair and actually quote what they say because, you know, but be careful guys, buckle up and brace for impact because they're about to be anti-Semitic. So they say that they had more than 215-A-PAC-backed candidates from both parties have now advanced to the November general election in this cycle.

So even though they lost the Michigan one, they said we've got 215 of our guys in that are going to basically serve Israel. By the way, most of their donors are Republican donors, okay? And so did, by the way, did cable news tell you that the Republicans were trying to buy the Senate, the Democratic nominee for a Senate in Michigan? No, they didn't tell you, right? And so, okay, now we go to the bottom here. They explain at the end of the letter. we will keep working to help elect pro-Israel leaders and to help defeat anti-Israel detractors

between now and November and in many cycles ahead. So it sounds like they're trying to put pro-Israel people to serve Israel into Congress and bragging about it, and that if you are opposed to anything Israel does, they will try to eliminate you, as they just said in their letter that is public, right? But if I say that, then cable news goes, are you trying to say that they control Congress? That's anti-Semitic. Okay, so. I literally just got called an anti-Semite by a former IDF spokeswoman for saying exactly that.

And I was bar mitzvut. What are we talking about? She said, I said 305 or 503 out of 538 members of Congress have accepted a lobbying check or a campaign contribution from the pro-Israel lobby. That's 95% as you well know. And she said it was anti-Semitic. But they just said in that statement that they're trying to put in more people who've accepted those checks to protect Israel or vote in the interest of Israel. They're allowed to say it. You're not because it's not, I mean, you're just not allowed to say the truth in this country anymore.

Yeah, but they're doing something really harmful because they're saying the truth is anti-Semitic. No, don't say that. That's crazy talk. So look, I saw that appearance where she said that to you. And then once you said what you said, she was like, stump. She had nothing to say because she's like, I played my one card. Anti-Sound, God. Self-hating.

Self-hating is the next one. I almost fed it to her, but they cut off the show. Yeah. And by the way, later in the show we'll show you John Stewart talking to Federman. And Federman is like, you have to support Israel. And John Stewart's like, that's a different country. Like what is this insane conversation we're having? And but here it is, all of established media goes right back to those talking points.

And those guys, by the way, that all the people in the Democratic Party, they claim to vote blue, no matter who. Let's see how many back Abdul. Let's see how many campaign for him. They say, Osat, Piper shouldn't campaign for him. Okay, good. Are you going to go campaign for him? Oh, hell, no, no way.

I don't want him in the party. So what happened? I thought vote blue no matter who. Let's see cable news. Who's, oh, we're so concerned about MAGA and Trump supporters and how they're going to authoritarian as a fascism. So you're going to be against Mike Rogers? Let's watch and find out. My guess is no.

No, they'll do a lot more attacks against Abdul's side. And look, last thing I'll leave you with is Real Canadian Superstore has everything you need this back to school season. Save on lunchbox savers like Ziggy's sliced deli meat products for always 375. And get life brand pure Vita shampoo or conditioner for $8 each. At Real Canadian Superstore, when you're ready, we're ready with a whole world and more. I'm worried that they're now going to go, oh, we just didn't smear them enough, right? So they're going to keep digging and digging and digging.

Will they dig into Mike Rogers pass? Will they like go ask every one of his girlfriends if he's ever done anything inappropriate, anybody he's ever worked with? My guess is that none of that will happen. Okay? And then for Abdul, just like, okay, go into fourth grade, third grade. How deep do we have to go to try to find anything he said wrong? And now he doesn't say anything wrong, so they start putting words in his mouth.

So they're like. Or you just fabricated entirely. Yeah, they're like, okay, you're a socialist. He's like, there's nothing wrong with it, but I'm not, right? And you're DSA, nothing wrong with it, but I'm not. It doesn't matter, shut up, you're DSA. It just, the beautiful thing though about people who are operating in bad faith is they, by nature, are contradicting themselves constantly because they have to do the mental gymnastics

to bend backwards on their logic. So people like Neera Tandon, they do this identity politics, standing and they talk about how important it is to protect women. But they never actually protect women. She hired Larry Summers who was in the Epstein files to conduct their project 2029, which was supposed to be their response to project 2025. When she was at Center for American Progress, people complained about the organization's handling of a workplace sexual harassment of violations and complaints.

I mean, when, and as you said, Donovan McKinney is a black man. running in Detroit, a highly black area. And she doesn't protect minorities then. She's not on the side of Donovan McKinney then. You've got Elijah Manley running down in Florida. The CBC won't jump in on his behalf when a Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a pro-Israel congresswoman, a white congresswoman, carpet bagged into the district and started running there because hers got redistricted out.

And the CBC is nowhere to be found. They're all operating in bad faith. They're trying to convince you to believe their self-righteousness when it serves them and then when it doesn't, they abandon it entirely and act like you're crazy. Yeah, and so look, I'm not, as everybody knows, I'm not obsessed with race. I don't care in either direction and we don't have to have more Muslims in Congress, we don't have to have more X, Y, or Z. We just have to have people who are going to actually represent their district and their voters.

So if you're representing black people accurately, women and Jews and Muslims, et cetera, wonderful, that's what we want, right? We're not the ones claiming that anybody has to be a particular race. They are, right? I've seen near a 10 and say it a thousand times, hide behind women, hide behind minorities. But then when you have progressives who are minorities who are not corrupt, she's like, ew, ew, no, we only want corrupt minorities and corrupt women. Or what about when she was with Clinton in 2016 and she tried to convince everyone Barack Obama was an anti-Semite?

Or what about when she was with Clinton or what about when she was with Clinton in 2020 and decided, okay, well, we can't find anything on Bernie, so let's just call him a sexist. I mean, it's the same thing over and over with these people. always go back on their principles because they don't have them. 100%. All right, but look guys, bottom line is, we won! Holy cow, we won against $62 million in a primary and all of national media. So they can cry and cry.

In fact, I was on a Zoom call with Abdul Al-Said, William Lawrence, and Donovan McKinney over the weekend. And somebody on the call, one of the, I believe, audience members, suggested, hey, does anybody, can anybody make an A-PAC tears mug so we can collect their tears? And they were kind of joking when I was like, oh, no, I love that idea. So we did it. So you can get it now at shopty.com. So collect the A-PAC tears throughout the general election. Believe me, your mug will runneth over.

Are you going to send Ryan one of those for free? Okay, we'll get drop-sighted some A-Pact Tears mug. So all right, and by the way, guys, also Operation Hope and Team Hope, man. So we said have hope and we could do things that are impossible. We've done it again and again and we did it now. And this is just the beginning. Now momentum's on our side. So this is when we really start winning.

So I love these tears, keep them coming. And meanwhile, we're gonna go and win these races. And Abdul's gonna win that general election. And it's gonna make a huge difference. All right, let's go to the next story. This whole demonization of APEC, you know, APEC is made up of Jewish Americans. There are people who wanna participate in politics. And so, yes, there are other issues.

issues being discussed, yes. Okay, we're having an issue with that video. You know what, let's take a quick break, guys. Let's take a break and we'll come back and do that story right. So let's go to members on t.t.com. That Borisin guy says, suck at APEC. Suck at Stevens, maybe you can take some of that 62 million that Apaq gave you and moved to Israel.

Blooded ego says every election should be ranked choice voting. No candidates should ever win an election with under 50% of the vote. Well, that's interesting. But in this case, Abdul won with less than 50, 48 to 47 and McClure. Moro got around 3 to 4%. So I don't necessarily agree with no one should with under 50%. But rank choice voting is super interesting. So perfectly good point.

As White House Burns says, I'm about to go to Levi Stadium to see ACDC with my son. His first rock concert, just have to catch a few minutes of TYT first. There you go, okay. That way you could be thunderstruck right off the bat. Okay, so I'm reading all these blind sexy speed racer says, ladies and gentlemen, we got her. We got her. Down goes Israeli Haley. Down goes Hayek, down goes Zaynestudges, down goes Stevens.

Indeed. Rebel Dragon says, Julian in the house, love one both host her at the desk. Me too, brother, me too. It's great. Also, right saying it was a big test and they passed. They won. What the hell are they talking about? They're doing propaganda, of course.

Panic on FunkTron says, damn, more people need to move to know that Politico's a foreign slash Israeli news outlet. Technically it's a German outlet that serves Israel. Okay, so mind bending. All right, we'll be back. All right, back on the Young Turks, the online news show, Jake, you're Julian and Adrioni with you guys. And Dubob just joined through the join button below on YouTube. You're awesome. We appreciate you. You guys are the Young Turks. And then BV. Parnazian also joined through t.com slash join. And we really appreciate that as well. All right, so now let's go to our next story. This whole demonization of APEC, you know, APEC is made up of Jewish Americans.

They're people who want to participate in politics. And so, yes, there are other issues being discussed. Yes, there's candidate qualities. Yes, there's tactics. But at the end of the day, it seems to me that that is the motivating matter here. And the Democratic Party is making clear they want nothing to do with anybody who supports the fact that our ally, Israel, is fighting against these terrorists in the Middle East. His position is for a full military embargo of the state of Israel. Why is Apex so mad?

This guy is saying that the United States government can't even sell defensive weapons to Israel, which would make Israel completely defenseless. Now, that would be a reason for a group of people who cares about Israelis to say, this is not our guy. So, Van, can I just point that out? So David Aksorah was also part of that panel, and to be fair to CNN, Axelrod said, well, as a Jewish American, I disagree with you guys. It is funny to have Scott Jennings and Van Jones agree.

No, APAC is super important. APAC is precious, APAC's never done anything wrong. Well, they make it sound like, oh, you know, you're just attacking APAC because they're supporting the Jewish state. Like, oh, they're innocent. They haven't, what, like, we're trying to influence Congress, don't be ridiculous. Well, really? Well, let's dive in from sludge here and find out how much of an impact they've had.

So APAC's PAC and Super PAC, the United Democracy Prize. By the way, hilariously ironic title, and they're trying to basically take our democracy away, have combined for more than 104.3 million in political spending so far in the 2026 cycle. According to a review of the FEC data, the figures, does not, that figure does not include spending to influence voters by allied super PACs like Democratic majority for Israel, or by a sprawling network of pop-up super PACs that were ceded by UDP or DMFI. They explained that as recently as 2021, APAC had never directly donated to a federal candidates. PAC made his first donations in January 22. They had done donations in a different way, by the way.

And that same month, it formed its own Super PAC. By the 2024 cycle, APAC's nine figure outlays in elections marked a dramatic increase in its spending for the House and Senate lawmakers who approved billions of dollars in economic and military aid packages for Israel. So Julian, let's pause there for a second. So their claim is Apex perfectly innocent. It's not like they're trying to influence Congress. I mean, they've just spent over $100 million in two cycles in a row.

And I read the comment from Apex letter earlier in the show where they said, yeah, we're trying to defeat anyone who's anti-Israel in the US Congress and fund the guys who are pro-Israel to help a different nation. So when you see Van Jones and Scott Jennings, theoretically from the right and the left, combine there to defend APEC, what's your reaction to that? Yeah, it shows you that that is a fantasy show. It's like WWE, that show. You know, they're putting people who agree on the issues that you're not allowed to disagree on and disagree on the issues that you are allowed to disagree on.

So if you talk about trans athletes in sports, that's a culture war issue. It's totally allowed. You're allowed to disagree about that on CNN. So Van Jones and Scott Jennings will go back and forth about it. But if it's something that challenges the economic status quo and aid to Israel definitely does, or also the geopolitical status quo, which of course it does, then you are not allowed to disagree about that. And none of the panelists they bring on will.

So Van Jones seemed outraged. He was totally outraged that you couldn't sell weapons to Israel. Yeah, okay, maybe we won't give them unconditional aid anymore, which why were we doing that in the first place? But maybe we won't give them unconditional aid anymore because of his phrasing, what happened in Gaza. But we can't sell to them? I don't know. Would you sell weapons to a gang that was terrorizing a community in the United States? What's the difference between selling and giving to them besides you making a profit? So why is it okay to sell to a genocidal state that's committing an ethnic cleansing in southern Lebanon now? On to its next imperialist project. It makes no sense at all.

And I think that Van Jones is pretty clearly bought off. I mean, I can't understand why else he would have such a strong stake in this in this fight. Yeah, especially because he's a smart guy. So him pretending not to understand is weird. So for example, you mentioned gangs, but we can do the example of another nation like Saudi Arabia murders, a journalist that worked for the Washington Post, Jamal Khashoggi, and we all had a conversation about whether we should cut off funding to Saudi Arabia. We don't really give them funding, but we have our bases there.

Should we take that out? Should we end our alliance with them? Over one person who was killed. By the way, journalists that worked, it was a commonist for Washington, but technically not an American. Now, what Saudi Arabia did is unimaginable, we should have had that conversation, right? That's good, so that's positive, right? Now you move over to Israel, they've killed 10 American citizens in the last three years,

arrested no one over it. They committed a genocide. They've gone into their neighbors and taken southern Lebanon, southern Syria, et cetera, and Van Jones is like, how dare you? That's only a genocide. That's only endless wars. That's only 23,000 children killed. And now you're thinking about taking away their weapons?

Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what we're thinking. Why do we owe them anything? That's just, and so for him to just out of the blue, while he's theoretically on the left, I'm old enough to remember when he was on the left, right? Now, but he's defending a right wing funders of APEC, it makes no sense at all. His argument also was that Israel wouldn't be able to protect itself if the U.S. wasn't giving it aid. Because we have been giving them $3 billion of aid every year, they are one of the most

sophisticated armies in the world. They already have the Iron Dome. They already have access to ridiculous mineral rights. They just got access to the Leviathan gas fields. We know they've been involved in diamond trade. What is this idea that like Israel is this tiny little. baby. I heard the analogy that you used on Tucker where it's like Israel's this tiny little baby that you need to protect and we must feed it and nurture it. It's like, dude, they're

another nation. And it's the same point that John Stewart got at, which we'll get to later. Why are we randomly signing away all of our money to another nation when 60% of people are living paycheck to paycheck in the United States? We're facing a health care crisis. Only major country on earth not to guarantee health care to its citizens as a human right, including Israel. Israel does as well. Israel also guarantees free public education. We don't have that. Why are we funding them without any conditions on the aid? We aren't even allowed to tell them when to stop.

We've signed a bunch of ceasefire agreements and they just violate them. They're violating them in Gaza, they're violating them in Lebanon. They never stop. Yeah, and today they put out a statement saying, even if America does a peace deal with Iran, we will not abide by it and we will continue attacking, okay? Killed Americans in the West Bank, as you said. Yeah. And they were spying on, they're spying on us.

Defense intelligence agency listed them as a critical level espionage threat. Our reporting at DropSight shows that they were involved in Jeffrey Epstein's sex ring, or not the sex ring, but geopolitical maneuvers across the world. I mean, they are, they are almost everything they've done in the United States has been a bad thing. I don't understand why we have this like, why they're entitled to our support. Yeah, and they also have nukes to defend themselves. But Van knows all that. That's why his lies are weird and makes me wonder, yeah, the motivation.

Yeah. And Van, if you're upset that I'm wondering about your motivation, that's a sad day for you, okay? It's a super weird thing to defend a genocidal state when you're pretending to be on the left. Okay, now, but a lot of people in Congress too, but it's all a coincidence, of course. Now I'm gonna read you some of the people who got money and let's see if you could spot a pattern here. Top recipient of contributions through A-PACPact this cycle has been, now of course this is outside of Haley Stevens. Republican Senator Susan Collins, who was attacked? Oh, her opponent, Grant Platner was viciously attacked by everyone in the media.

Okay, so Susan Collins is also the chair of the Appropriations Committee, who's running for re-election this year in Maine, with 2.7 million received so far. Behind her on the Senate side is Tom Cotton of Arkansas, who's constantly coming on air saying we should merge our military technology with Israel, and we should do everything Israel wants to start their awards, and he's a member of the Armed Services Committee. And then... Real Canadian Superstore has everything you need this back-to-school season.

Save on lunchbox savers, like Ziggy's sliced deli-Me products for always 375. and get Life Brand Pure Vita shampoo or conditioner for $8 each. At Real Canadian Superstore, when you're ready, we're ready, with a whole world and more. On top of that, you've got John Cornyn of Texas, but he got eliminated, so that was money poorly spent. On the House side, APEC ally, Representative Wesley Bell, has been the top beneficiary over $2 million in PAC contributions, routed through APAC as a conduit, followed by Democratic Representative Richie Torres with $855,000. Oh, God, well, look at that.

That's the other Democrat that's constantly standing for Israel. Debbie Wasserman Schultz with $794,000, also a massive proponent of Israel and their wars and their genocides. Okay, but we're not anywhere done yet. So now comes some of the funny ways that they funnel the money. Donations have flowed to a couple of types of super PACs. Some were new groups formed to spend in House Democratic primaries like the more than $4 million to elect Chicago woman, aka ECW. Others were spending vehicles that already existed like the super pack Bold America, which spent $2.9 million in May and June, and June, backing pro-Israel, New York

Representative Adriano Espaya against Challenger Darioza Avela Chevalier, a Democratic Socialist, and a critic of Israel. So bold America is for Israel, and Chicago women don't represent Chicago women, they represent old Israeli officials in Tel Aviv. Okay, so the lies and the sub, you know when you don't need subterfuge is when you're being honest, right? And you actually have good intentions. You don't need to cover up your intentions. If you were actually for Chicago women, you would represent Chicago women.

If you were for Israel and you don't want people to find out that you're robbing them of their money and sending it over to a foreign nation, you pretend to be Chicago women. Which is why Scott Jennings framing is so ridiculous. He goes, it's just American Jews who want to protect Israel. Well, then why wouldn't they just say that in the ads that they're spending the money on? That's because it's not just American Jews, you know, working class American Jews who care about the future of Israel and are chipping in five bucks at a time. There are people pouring tens of millions of dollars individually.

Miriam Edelson, Paul Singer, Larry Ellison, huge billionaires. Some of them Israeli natives who are in the United States pouring money in to these shadow packs and pop-up packs. It is just nasty stuff. Yeah, Mary Madelson is also an Israeli citizen, that's right. So go forward to Graphic 11 here. Apex Pack and UDP spent nearly $126.9 million combined during the last 2024 election cycle, according to the FEC.

So 127 million last time, this time, 104 million, and we're not out of the primaries yet. That's amazing, and I don't know if they had all the Haley Stevens information. Go back to Graphics 7 because now, did they really get anything in return? Comical question, but here we go. In addition to continuing billions of dollars in military aid, last month the U.S. House passed the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2027. That includes a provision expanding U.S. Israel Defense Corps operation, language that APAC applauded. So Sludge doing a terrific job of following money in politics, not just about Israel,

but about all the different lobbies. But here, Julian, here's another comical part of Mesa. media. They say, yes, APAC gives money and the Israeli lobby gives money to all these politicians, but they're doing it for Chicago women, and they're doing it for America and to keep it bold. And they're not doing it for Israel, probably for Norway and Nicaragua. Okay, so it's anti-Semitic to say that they're doing it for Israel when Israel's in their title. Okay, but on top of that, but they have no effect in Congress. They don't control, influence Congress. That's also a wild anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. Except coincidentally, all the people

People who got money from the Israeli lobby vote for the Israeli lobby every single time. Yeah. Isn't that weird? Yeah, I had a conversation with Delia Ramirez, you know, Representative from Illinois in Congress who, you know, is the sponsor of the Block the Bombs Act, among other legislation to you sort of reel in the United States subsidizing Israel and its genocide. And she told me that one of the tactics that Israel uses is it goes into minority communities. And it's kind of telling that they're naming these pop-up packs,

elect Democratic women, elect Chicago women, things like that. They are capitalizing on the identity markers just like they do behind the scenes before they had to create these things. And when people weren't paying attention to the campaign finance, why weren't people paying attention? Because we didn't have independent media. Corporate media looked the other way. So nobody even looked up the FEC website. When Ryan and I started doing this reporting, the FEC website probably got like 600% more traffic because CNN, Politico, New York Times, Washington Post was never on there. They don't report on it. But Delia Ramirez was telling me they will go in to communities with, you know, maybe minority women or minority men, Latino men.

And they would say, hey, I know you care about this issue. And you're such a great community leader on this issue. We know you care about housing. We know you care about immigration. And we want to send you to Congress to represent your community. The only thing is, just don't talk about this one issue. You're not Jewish. You don't really care about Israel.

You don't care about Palestine. You don't even know about it. It's fine. You'll vote with us on that because they're our ally. And we support our allies, right? We want to stop terrorism and people who otherwise didn't really know much about how it operated would say, oh great, I can work on the issues I care about, take money from this group that will help me do that, and then not all I have to do is vote in favor of this one country.

What they didn't realize is that the country was established as a colonialist project. If you haven't read about the knockba, go read about the knockba. Everybody acts like history started on October 7th, 2023. Have you ever heard of 1967? Have you ever heard of 1948? There are years before October 7th, 2023. In 2014, the Israeli government was under investigation by the UN for crimes against Palestinians.

There are years that exist that are not 2023. And I think that the way that they're running their operation now makes them think that maybe A PAC won't exist too much longer because the American voters on both sides of the aisle are just getting sick of it. So they're having to create fake packs to funnel all their money into. Yeah, and A, they never talk about all the things that Julian just talked about. For example, a guy whose early career was funded by the Israeli lobby is Bikari Sellers. And he winds up on CNN. He winds up at Democratic meetings.

And I remember at the DNC when they were considering recognizing Palestine, just their humanity and their need to be a state at some point, right? And Bikari Sellers showed up and was adamantly against it. I'm funded earlier by the Israeli lobby, but hey, don't talk about it, don't talk about it, because someone who's an elite part of the media like Bikari Sellers will be offended. Well, I don't care if you're offended. I'm a billion times more offended that you're trying to justify a genocide, and I don't care what money they gave you before, and I don't care how, oh, well, everybody at CNN covers

that up, you should cover it up too. No, we're not gonna cover it up. So it is super weird to have these people who go out and actively campaign against Palestinians and in favor of genocide and then tell me that I gotta shut up about how where they got their money from throughout their career. No, we're not gonna do that. So we're not mainstream media, we don't cover up the news, we cover the news. That's why we like sludge, that's why we like drop site news and other outlets that are bravely

bringing you the news, also the lever and many others. All right, so let's go to the next story. This one's not about Israel, thank God, let's take a little bit of a break. Okay, so this is about affordability, but it starts a civil war anyway. So a new civil war inside MAGA, and this one is about affordability. Fascinating. Now this is important guys, because I've never seen them fight over this issue. In the past, all we've had is wall-to-wall propaganda from people like Ben Shapiro, and

And everyone else is supposed to follow the talking points. It does affordability doesn't matter. The average person doesn't matter. We need no more tax cuts for the rich. We need more deregulation. Everybody shut up and give the rich more. But now there's a rebellion by people that are not fans of mine and I'm not fans of theirs, but I am kind of shocked at what's going on here.

And it might be because they're actually a little bit savier than the older generation. But I'm gonna get to that. But here we've got Matt Walsh versus B. Ben Shapiro, they're both at the daily wire, so that's interesting. Cat turd versus Jack Posobiac. I mean, they're both talking point machines before. How are they fighting? And then J.D. Vance versus Mark Thesson, and that one got ugly. So a lot of fun things here. So let's start with Matt Walsh. He says grocery prices are insane. They're still rising. Addressing this problem should be the number one priority of every elected leader and the stupid foreign wars and focus on this issue.

So one of the main reasons socialists are gaining power. And then Andrew Colvette of Talking Point USA, I'm fascinated that he went in this direction as well, saying one of our TPP USA college students gave me his takeout affordability. Quote, a burrito shouldn't cost $20. Then that started a great burrito debate to the point where I think we have now a shirt on shoptudy.com with a $20 burrito on it. Anyway, so he says, yeah, a lot of this is hangover from COVID and Biden-year inflation. Of course, you've got to blame Biden. But the lived experience is the same.

He just feels like basic things cost too much. Now, Shapiro's going to come in in a second, but first, Mark Thesson comes. And Mark Thesson is a huge advocate for wars, a huge advocate for funding Israel, not funding America. Don't you dare fund America, but you have to fund foreign nations. So Thesson says about this affordability issue, cry me a river. The burritos in the college cafeteria are included in your meal plan. Yeah, Mark, if you're going to like one of these colleges that cost like $100,000 a year or whatever they're up to, yes, a burrito's included in your massive tens of thousands of dollars bill that you get and you have to pay off the rest of your life.

But he's like, why don't you just take money from the Israelis? Anyways, like he did. But now, so all of this, so far it's surprising that Walsh and Colvette are kind of care about affordability. For any right, Republican he care about that is weird. Thecine brings us back to normal, but then J.D. Vance comes out of nowhere and hits Theson with a two by four and says, I'm surprised to hear Mark say this. If you've ever met him in person, it's quite obvious the man has never missed a burrito. Damn! J.D. Vance with a fat joke, if he had made that four years earlier, maybe all four glass walls in his house would have shattered at the same time.

So he's that Ozempic just to save him. Yeah, well, I'll allow it. Okay, so all right, now I've got a lot more where that came from, but Julian, so Mark Thesis's point of view, not surprising. That's classic Republican point of view. What's going on here with Mount Walsh? Yeah, so the Republic, this is something that's been stuck in my head since it was said to me. It was in a conversation with Elizabeth Warren a couple years ago. And she said the Republican access, or the Republican Party spins along the access of corporate tax cuts and deregulation for the rich and extremist social

policies for the poor who they're trying to distract from their economic agenda. And she said Project 2025 is no different than that. That was before Trump got elected. Ended up being right. What they're doing here is they're scrambling because the people who they've been able to distract with the social extremism are now starting to feel such pain economically that they're bowing out. And they're saying, okay, you know what? I'm done with the Republican party. Yeah, I agree that maybe some of these leftists are crazy on the social issues, but I can't afford my groceries. I'm having to choose between getting my prescription drugs and feeding my kids. It's, it is a dire reality, and it's forcing people to realize that what they've been

fed, propaganda from outlets like Fox News that are arms of the Republican Party has not been true. And so now what you're seeing from these figures is panic. They're panicked and they're having to change their messaging and they're assuming that if they just change their rhetoric and start talking about the affordability issue. And they say, yeah, prices are too high and we need to fix something, and yeah, it's definitely all Biden's fault, by the way, but we definitely need to fix something, then maybe those people will come back on board without any actual real action. And they have evidence that actually that is the case in this country. Biden promised us $15 minimum wage. He promised us a voting rights act.

Got in, wouldn't lift the filibuster until he had to raise the debt ceiling and then he lifted it. But not for $15 minimum wage and not for the voting rights act. Only for the stock market. Right. And so they have evidence that not only Democratic voters, but Republican voters, their entire lives will take what the politicians, especially Trump, are saying, and his faux populism is evidence of that. He told them no tax on tips and no tax on Social Security. And then he whispered to his advisors, make sure those programs sunset after four years.

Yeah, but the tax cuts for the rich. But the tax cuts for the rich, never sunset. Those are in perpetuity. And that's Washington in a nutshell. And to back up what Elizabeth Warren told you. Today I saw a clip from Michael Savage and he said, yeah, there's liberals, all they want is welfare checks and handouts. That's why we gotta give money to Israel.

Wait, what? Okay, now back to affordability. So Thesson comes in with, again, classic Republican ideology here. He says, a burrito only cost $20 when you buy it on DoorDash because you're too lazy to walk over to Chipotle or Tagrobel where you can get one for $3.99. When I graduated, I lived on ramen noodles and we walk up now. Okay, I lived on ramen noodles had two roommates and worked on two jobs. I didn't whine about affordability. I worked hard so I could one day afford a better life.

And you had way less student debt. You had so many other advantages. You didn't have inflation like this. But basically he's telling you it's your fault. Does he seriously think that a Chipotle burrito is $3.99? To be fair, I think he was referring to Taco Bell on that. See, I'm fair a show in America, right? Okay.

I don't think you can get anything for $3.99 these days. They don't, you know why he's saying you're doing that under? Because he does that on DoorDash, right? And he's just putting it on others. No, no, Chipotle's peasant food. He doesn't eat that. Only steaks and lobster, right? So now Ben Shapiro comes in and he's going to regulate because Matt Walsh is part of his career.

He said, what are you doing here? Now remember, we don't care about the pores, okay? He says, I hear that young people are upset about $20 burritos. Okay, young people, a burrito does not cost $20. If you're paying $20 for a burrito and you're not independently wealthy, you're doing life wrong. Again, it's all your fault. The people in power aren't doing anything wrong. You're doing something wrong.

We have enough problems he continues as a country without insane expectations that the government is going to provide us government quality burritos. I'm sorry, gourmet quality burritos. Who said that? Literally no one asked for gourmet-style burritos from the government. Okay, you just made that up. He continues, current common good conservative inflation messaging. $20 burritos are a human right, but also every serious methodology for making them cheaper.

Kill the tariffs, that's Trump's policy. Break the unions. Oh, there it is. Deregulate, huh? Who would have guessed? And deregulate the food supply chain. That sounds really safe. isn't America first, so we need to complain a lot about how America's cooked and then

surrender to Iran. Who said surrender to Iran? We're just worried about prices being too high. But you see how he takes it in obviously ridiculous directions. But here comes Mount Walsh back, saying the conservatives on here denying the affordability crisis, by the way, that's his boss, are engaged in what I could only describe as an act of political suicide. They're also lying, wow, which is the worst part. Grocery prices are up, housing, energy, insurance, health care, basic living expenses, it's real, it's happening. Denying it just makes you look out of touch, deceitful, and untrustworthy. It's also completely unnecessary and unforced error.

No credible person is claiming that Trump caused these price surges. That's definitely not true. But you don't have to disgrace yourself by denying the reality in front of your face just to prove your loyalty to Trump. The causes for the most part are multifaceted, complicated, and longstanding. That's true. So let's discuss them. Debating whether the problem exists at all or if it does exist, whether it counts as a problem, is a total waste of time.

It makes you look like a shill and a fraud. So those are super harsh statements that appear to be directed at his boss at Daily Wire Ben Shapiro. And he's got to cut this crap out because I do not want to agree with Matt Walsh. That goes too far. Okay, so but all right. Now Posobiac comes in. He says, Neocons lost their minds when I called out Kevin O'Leary capitalists and the case-shaped economy that emerged. since COVID, but that doesn't change the fact that it's true.

The cost of living is up and working class families are all feeling in. Again, I do not feel comfortable on that side. But Kat Turd says, funny how Alda Dumur, Gryfter, podcaster, bros suddenly and simultaneously started talking about the cost of living is up under Trump and calling everyone a neocon. If you can't see how fake and coordinated this is, I don't know what to tell you. Okay, so apparently the affordability crisis is fake. people talking about it is fake and manufactured because obviously everybody in America is super rich.

Yeah, right, like and we have no problems affording any house we like student debt. That's just coordinated talking points. Yeah. No one actually has student debt. Cat turd knows. Yeah, but then when you try to relieve student debt, it's like, socialism, no. What happened? I thought it didn't exist.

Yeah, right. I thought it wasn't a problem at all. Yeah. So I'm with you, Julian. I think that the person, you, that the Pesobiacs and the Matt Walsh of the world aren't doing this out of the goodness of their heart. They're realizing, okay, our viewers are telling us every day that they're getting crushed. If I spit in their face and tell them no, you're a talking point, you're fraud, you just bow down to Trump or

bow down to Republican ideology or supply side economics, I'm not gonna be able to win that way. They might check out what's going on in New York City. Yeah, you know, I mean, it's fascinating. to be that he said that the K-shaped economy started after COVID. It's like as soon as they start to feel the heat in Trump world and they realize that people are economically distressed, they're like, oh, this must have started in COVID. No, that happened a long time ago. We've been in the neoliberal order for far too long.

Yeah, that's exactly right. And so these guys are just trying to figure out what's the best strategy. So Matt Walsh is like, okay, I need you to hate trans people and I need you to hate all minorities and gay people. But okay, maybe we shouldn't hate our own voters, which by the way, the first half is horrific. The second half is a little smarter. I mean, Shapiro and Katowd and the other guys are living in a different reality, an old reality, where you could just, because they're so used to having all of national media on their side. So they claim that the, oh, media is liberal, and they have a liberal bias.

No, no, no, when you're talking about social issues like, should we hate gay people, Okay, fine, the liberals, the media is liberal in that respect. But when you talk about economic issues, no, the first thing, every cable news anchor will scream at you if you try to do anything for the average American is, how are you gonna afford that? How are you gonna pay for that? And then you ask for a war for Israel, they're like, yeah, that's cool. No, no, no, no, we have infinite money, we could pay for that all you want. So whose side of the American people on?

What is actually true? Well, the Guardian explains 95% of Americans believe the US is suffering an affordability crisis. Two thirds of Americans, including 49% of Republicans, said they have little faith that the federal government will improve the cost of living crisis they face. So Julian Nag would get to the interesting, in the past, I would have said an impossible question, but I don't think it's impossible anymore of how do you solve it, right? Because you're not going to solve it by re-electing somebody like Trump who couldn't care or less and literally says it.

He has no sense at all, so he's like, I don't care about affordability. I don't care about the average person, right? Yeah, right? And so, and you were like, re-elect Biden. He betrayed all of his promises like you said. You're gonna elect Buttigieg, you're gonna get the same exact thing. It feels, and if you elect like the guys that Matt Walsh and then won, you're gonna get the hatred, but I don't think they'd mean it at all, at all.

Like some portions of the right wing certainly mean that they're anti-war, and they proved it by, you know, leaving Trump, leaving the Republican Party, et cetera. But these guys are a different group, right? So that's not gonna get the job done. So it feels like, and obviously this is our side, so it's easier for us to say, but there's really only one thing that American people haven't tried in leadership, like the President of the United States, right? We tried fake Republicans, fake Democrats, we tried crazy right wingers, the only folks we haven't

tried are populist left. Right, yeah, no, that's exactly right. I mean, I think that people are probably starting to realize that, which is why they're electing these people despite how radical CNN and Fox News and MSNBC and NBC and Washington Post and New York Times and Politico, all of these outlets are telling you how radical this is. You know, they always called Medicare for All super radical, right? And on CNN last night, there was a panelist who was saying, well, I don't think you're going to be able to get independence in Michigan to go along with Medicare for all. Yeah, they might be in favor of money out of the of politics and they might be in favor of money in your pockets, but they're definitely not in favor of Medicare for all. What about the poll from data for progress in November of 2025 that showed that in swing states, 65% of Americans, that's Republicans and Democrats, supported Medicare for all.

Where are they getting this? They just make things up. And that was what I kept remarking to my parents and my brother while we were watching the coverage last night. I'm like, it's amazing to me that they just make things up and then just pray that the viewer doesn't go look it up. That's 100% right. That's why Shapiro and Thesson is like, don't worry, don't worry, Jake Tapper's got our back, right? Or Dan Abash. Dan Abash's ex-husband while he was at the State Department gave Ehud Barak and an Israeli spy a tour around the White House.

Yeah, that's also true. But mainly in this case, it's just about, you know, lying about all of these issues, right? So I've seen CNN lie for decades now about Medicare for all. So you'll show them a poll that says 65%, they'll say, yeah, the 65% of Americans are radical. Because that's in essence what they're saying. They're saying if you're for Medicare for all, like Abdul al-Saeedas as an example, that you're a radical and Haley Stevens, if she's against it, is a moderate. So 35% is moderate and 65% is radical, that just defies the English language.

That's nonsensical by definition, but nevertheless they religiously lie to you day in and day out on every one of these issues. We once did a protest about a decade ago where we went to CNN headquarters here in L.A. And we asked them to actually acknowledge their own poll. Because they had done a poll for Medicare for All back then and it came in in. It's like it was either Medicare for All or public option, I forget it. But it came in at 70%. And they reported it the first day. Then the next day they went right back to saying that it was a radical unpopular position.

I wonder why. Could it be because of any of the drug companies that are taking up all of their advertiser No, it could be the politicians that give them, you know, $17 to $20 billion every election cycle. Yeah. And then all of a sudden they tell you all the corrupt politicians aren't corrupt. No, I don't think it's that either. I think it's just radical. Yeah, it's just, well, you know what, two-thirds of America is radical, we solved it. Yeah, no, they don't have any empathy, by the way, either. I mean, that's what that entire exchange about the burritos was. I mean, this is one of the things that I noticed when I got to D.C. I was amazed by the lack of empathy. It's like there is no

consideration for the fact that other humans could be living a different way than you are. It's like the Bill Maher thing when he was sitting with Mary Ann Williamson. And he said, people aren't having it that bad. I never see them. That's because you're in Bel Air. Like literally in Bel Air. So she's like, have you ever been to Skid Row? He goes, well, that's Skid Row. Yeah, those are human beings. So are the people in Gaza. So are the people in Lebanon. So are the people in Iran. Every person who's uninsured is a human being. Everybody who's living paycheck to paycheck, that would be 60% of the country is a human being. These are all other people.

How about have some empathy and realize that just because you made it out and you had a factor of luck somewhere in your life that maybe you capitalized on the opportunities that were in your life, but there was luck in there. And just because you capitalize on those doesn't mean that those opportunities were placed in somebody else's lap. It's time for you to have some empathy and start caring about fellow Americans rather than geopolitical structures that will make you money. Like I don't know, Israel's imperialist project. And if you're in news, maybe try telling the truth. Oh, that would be a good one actually. Okay, I know radical, radical. No, that's a really crazy one, actually. All right, we're way past time, but we've got to do the next story because we promised you eight different ways.

So we got to do it. So let's go to this one. For you, you could agree with them 90%, but Israel is the red line. Absolutely. Israel for me. Like, I can't ever turn my back to Israel after where it's at. And I mean no disrespect on this, but that is not our country. Why is Israel another country your red line right now? This is what your critics are saying, rather than a domestic issue that impacts Americans' everyday lives. I think Wolf Blitzer used to work for APEC, and he's challenging Fetterman, right? And John Stewart's having to explain, you know that this isn't for Jewish Americans.

Israel's a different country. And it's not clear that Fetterman does know that. Julian Andrioni is here from DropSight News with guest hosting with me today. And you had an interaction with Federman, too. Let me show that to folks and then get your reaction to it. Julian Andrioni, who are you with? Dropsite news. Oh, you're Dropside.

Oh, now it's like a race between who's the more pro Hamas drop site or Zidio. So now I got both. Hi, hi, everybody. You might have I asked you a question really quick. I just want to say I want your viewers to say how much I love to watch Israel eliminating the Hamas leadership. Then you may like this question. I know that upsets a lot of your viewers and a lot of your founders. Yeah.

So, but I think it's a great thing. So there's no news coming out of me. I'm going to hoist back Israel. The question is, where does your trash outlet come from and who's funding it? And now, if you think, if you think, your founders, your founders think, appropriate to attack and kill Israeli civilians. That's really, that should be the news overall. And now you're sticking a microphone in my face. So there's not any news here. So President Trump. I think the question is why does drop site love Hamas and Iran and Hezbollah so much? I think

that's really, I think that's the news. Yeah. Julianne, it didn't look like you got a question in there. No. Shout out to my subtitle people. Mesa, Mubashir, Sammy. Nobody has any clue what Zidio or civilians is, but they did a great job. No, I mean, everything he said makes a ton of sense if you don't think about it. Literally, it's amazing to me. You know, Fetterman, I think one of the best parts of the John Stewart interview, and I'll just mention that one first because he was allowed to ask questions, is the head tilt at the end after Stewart goes, with all due respect, cert, that's not. our country and Federman goes, what?

Yeah, he doesn't see me care. That's a good point. What about Pennsylvania? That's where you represent a lot of the people who are uninsured and can't afford groceries and can't afford prescription drugs. Live there, you've got a big city there, Philadelphia, another one, Pittsburgh. There's people all throughout the state, it's a wide state. It's one of the widest states in the East Coast. Where are you?

He's just meeting with Netanyahu, putting on a suit for Lindsey Graham's funeral because that was another defender of Israel. It's like the only time he dresses up is when there are other pro-Israel people that are in power around him. And then he dresses up. That is amazing. It's amazing to me. And also when, I mean, he was asking me quite, I got ripped by all of like the pro-Israel people online after that interview. And they're like, oh, he owned you and Laura Lumer's like drop site needs to be investigated, et cetera, et cetera. He asked, and they're like, what about that answer to his question where he said, how are you guys funded?

I answered it. And it was published in an AP article that morning about Ryan, 46, 46,000 individual donors, all of our donors and funders are individuals. Some of them give more than others, but they're all committed to the mission and none of them influence the coverage. If they did, they would be dropped. We answered the question and he goes, well, what about your founders who love Hamas? I, there's, you'll never win with them, right?

So you know what it is, it's projection, because they get funded by the Israeli lobby. Yeah, that's exactly it. And they love Israel more than America. So they assume, well, you must love Hamas, I don't know, you must be funded by other people. They assume because they're beholden. behold into a foreign government, everybody else must be as well. There's no such thing in their minds as somebody who has a good faith principled argument about something.

That's right, they believe that corruption is so obvious. To them, that's like Tuesday. Of course you take the money. Yeah, like, so they're trying to figure out who you're working for. And I get that all the time. Oh yeah, who are your phone? Who are you working for? Right.

Because they think, well, we're all working for someone. We're all paid bitches, right? That's exactly it. And that's why when John Stewart asked him about America, he's like, Like, what's that? America never paid me. And remember guys, this is the guy who was pretending to be a progressive when he was running. Now he says he's furious with the progressives.

Now what's happening is a trend. Marie Newman, she told me the other day, a former congresswoman from Illinois when she was in Congress, nine people voted to block weapons to Israel. Now, and they were all Democrats. Then a couple of years ago, it became 37, and then just the other day was 103. It's growing and growing. Confederate is super mad. He's like, maybe they'll bribe me less if you guys keep doing this.

So he said if our party ever becomes and just makes it official the anti-Israel party, that's when I would leave because that's been a moral clarity for me. So no, there's no red lines about America. If our party betrays our voters, if our party doesn't do paid family leave or a higher minimum wage, all the things I ran out, not a red line. But if you betray a foreign government when they ask for more wars and more genocide, then And that's a red line and I'll leave the party. That is, I mean, at a bare minimum bizarre.

After the Platner thing happened, Federman said, what interest does Bernie have in doing this? He's 85, he's not gonna be president. What interest does he have in propping up these progressive candidates around the country and endorsing them campaigning with Abdul al-Said and campaigning with Platner and campaigning all across the country? Principal? Belief? Like, he believes in the issues that he's campaigning on. All the things he's talking about aren't rehearsed talking points from consultants in DC like near a Tandon.

They aren't given to the consultants, the topics to create the talking points on aren't given to the consultants by corporate donors. They just came to those beliefs because they were thinking critically and thought about what the country might need and had empathy for the people on the ground. That's why he's still doing it? Why else would he be doing it? Why wouldn't he just retire? He has four grandkids.

Why wouldn't he go be with the grandkids? He loves to play basketball and play soccer with them. Why wouldn't he play basketball and soccer with the kids? You know, I used to have said, when we were back in Bernie Sanders a decade ago, sometimes people would say like, oh, that's a good angle. And I was like, what do you mean angle, right? That's just what we believe. But they think you're faking it.

Right. Because look, what did Fetterman do? He faked it as an angle to get into office. And when he did, shows up like, you know, like an old school hobo. You know, he's just missing the little knapsack thing, you know, and jumping from train to train. But when Netanyahu shows up, he's like, oh, yes, sir. I've got my suit on, sir. Am I okay, sir?

Right? Like, come on. He also let go of all of the economically populist economic policies. And so now the only way he can convince people he's working class as if he dresses how he perceives them in his mind, which is beat down and in a hoodie. He's like, oh, well, I don't like poor people and they're all dressed in hoodies and shorts. So if I wear them, then maybe they'll like me. No, there are working people who wear all sorts of clothes. They just need a little help because you guys have economically suppressed them for 50 years with your economic status quo.

Because it's all about appearance and never about substance. All right, so we go back to John Stewart asking Federman more questions. I mean no disrespect on this, but that is not our country. You're saying that these candidates may have great ideas for our economy. They may want to do the exact same thing you want to do in terms of getting money out of politics. They may want to increase the social safety net. They may want to change the balance of power from capital back to labor. but if they don't agree with you on Israel,

you don't want them in your party. Well, I don't know who you're referencing to specifically. No, I'm referencing what you just said. So in other words, Syed or AOC or Bernie Sanders, I assume you agree with a lot of what they say economically. And what I'm saying is like if you are a DSA member, if you are a member of a specific political party, run under your own banner.

But wait, they did. That's why they called themselves Democratic Socialists. And they are within the Democratic Party. In fact, let me let John Stewart take it from here. Just be Democrats. If you're going to run under the Democratic Party for that, why have a DSA party for overall? So run on that.

And you all understand. It's just an organization. It's not we have a two-party system. We don't. It's like the first. Freedom Caucus in the Republican Party. There are, you know, there's Randy Fine and Ogles and all these nutbags that are also part of an area and Republicans, I'm sure, may not agree with all of them on all kinds of things, but there is no other party. I guess you could, you could try it,

but my point is, if you don't disagree with them on a lot of things, why not use some of that energy? And even like Mamdani in New York is DSA, but there are things in the DSA platform that he disagrees with. And I'm assuming there's probably things in the Democratic platform that you might disagree with, but you don't disavow the entire thing. You're literally saying it's all, we can all have discussions, except when it comes to Israel, which is not America. It seems like a weird line to draw. And it was. And he had no answer for that. But you know what? They asked him again, why is that your red line? Let's check out one more video. I don't think that's weird. I think I think what history demonstrates is is that when when people or government or people turn their back to the Jewish community things and really badly and it's a dangerous.

Jewish community and Israel are not the same thing, brother man. They're not, that is not the same thing. No, no, no. It's like, hey, it's like if I have to pick a side for after 10-7 and after Iran, you know, I'm always going to stand with Israel. I'm always going to vote and support whatever that's necessary to protect themselves and to prosecute Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran too. And the very left never said a peep after Iran executed 30 to 40,000 young people in there just for protesting for democracy. You think that the left is pro Iran, not the country, but the regime? What I'm saying, what I'm saying, though, is like if anyone in the Democratic,

party is fine with Iran building a nuclear bomb. I disagree with that person. I think most people are, again, I think you're caricaturing the issue. Yeah, that was amazing. So he's trying to lecture John Stewart about the Jewish American community. Okay, by the way, they always pretend to speak for Jewish Americans. There's actually polling so they can speak for themselves. So 63% of Jewish Americans are opposed to the current Israeli government. And more Jewish Americans support Mamdani than Netanyahu. But Federman says, no, no, shut up, Jews. I'm going to tell you what you think because of the people who paid me. Julian. That entire clip watches like a Nobel prize winning economics professor trying to teach a four-year-old multiplication. Every time he got

into an intellectual bind, he just recited the talking point that he was given because he doesn't actually know or understand his worldview. He's been paid by a lobby in legalized bribes in order to assume a position that serves a special interest group, and he is parroting it over and over and over again. You think he studied that? You think he just like took a bunch of courses in Israeli history and came to this conclusion that Israel is actually his true passion? Let's be real. The only book he's ever read is unfettered, the one he wrote. Yeah, and I'll end on this.

So Blitzer asked him in that interview we showed you earlier, if the election were held today at primary in Pennsylvania, do you think you'd win? Gives you a sense of what planet Federman lives on. He's like, well, yeah, of course I would. He has a 19% of proof for him among Democrats in Pennsylvania. 69% disapproval of him, 58% said they can't wait to vote for someone else. What's his approval in Israel though? Because that's important, that's where the voters are.

Yeah, well, that's where the funders. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I forgot, okay, yeah, yeah. All right, so well, that's probably the last cycle. You'll see John Fetterman, so enjoy as much as you can. On the other hand, John Stewart is forever. Okay, all right, we gotta go, Julian, you're awesome. Thank you for joining us. Thank you so much for having me.

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Insanity, and they're about to say more crazy things about Mayor Mumdani in New York, because Mumdani derangement syndrome is at full peak right now. Yes, tell us about it. Yeah, so that was Rabbi Chaim Mence, and he was on Fox News there, and you could see that he was starting to talk about anti-Semitism and how it's such a big problem here in the United States, but let's hear more from him. Here's the full clip. When it comes to anti-Semitism and hate crime is it's not that something you have I want.

It's because I have an ideology in my head that tells me I have to hate you. And I have every right to go and hate you because I've been taught. Now, when it comes to Israel, a lot of people go and say, I can condemn the country of Israel. But it doesn't mean I hate Jews, not true. For an example, whenever you hate Israel, it always translates to the Jew. I can say I hate American government. It doesn't mean they hate all Americans. But it doesn't work that way with the Jewish people.

When you have a mayor that is constantly telling everybody that Israel should not exist because he has his Muslim radical view, everybody in the city goes and says like this, he's on our side. Let's go after the Jew. So his comments weren't completely out of nowhere. He was actually responding to some data that just came out from New York City. So first, it confirmed that hate crimes increased 9.4% through the first seven months of of 2026 compared with the same period last year. And then second, according to the department,

anti-Jewish incidents accounted for more than half of all confirmed hate crimes reported this year. That's not good news, but it doesn't mean that Zoran Mamdani is to blame for any of this. It could just be very timely, okay? The times are shifting, okay? And speaking of Mamdani derangement syndrome, which is a real thing now, I guess,

Let's check in on what is going on over at Newsmax. Take a look at New York City. Mamdami is moving too fast and too abruptly in his communism. Even the Democrat Party has told him to slow down with his rhetoric against, quote, the rich, because they understand it's turning the middle against them. He doesn't understand the middle. Mamdami is an extremist. He's a revolutionary.

He's a radical. He's the head of the Muslim Brotherhood to the. the best of my understanding. There's no question. He is absolutely the head of the Muslim Brotherhood here in America, maybe in the whole Western world. And he's moving so quickly that he's turning the middle against the entire communist movement. Okay. So we'll talk about that in a second. But just real quick, over in the halls of Congress, Representative Randy Fine is posting things like this. Here's his tweet. It says, we need to arrest jihadi Mamdani. And you know what? I hate that that has kind of a ring to it.

That is weird. But Jank, you and I are both nominally at least Muslims. Did you know that Mabdani is the head of the Muslim Brotherhood? Because I, this is news to me. I mean, I never get the memo, right? They, you know, we had a bunch of idiot Republicans talking about how the Turkey is going to re- is in the middle of reconstituting the Ottoman Empire. And I don't get a memo on it.

Mbdani's the head of the Muslim Brotherhood. I, on X every day I'm called Muslim Brotherhood. And I don't get a memo, I just feel really left out here. And I didn't know that Mbondani was to the best of Michael Savage's understanding the head of the Muslim Brotherhood, but then a second later, absolutely the head of the Muslim Brotherhood. And in America, no, I forget America, no, the whole Western world, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the ticket, that's what it is.

And also, by the way, you can criticize America all you'll want according to rabbi meds, that's totally fine. You wanna criticize other countries, that's fine. But if you criticize Israel, Jew-hater, destroy him. But yeah, you sound like a rational person. And of course, everything is Momdani's fault, but nothing is Israel's fault. Like if someone trips in New York, it's Momdani's fault. Israel murders 23,000 children, obviously not their fault.

Yeah, and I like how he kept saying. Momdani is going too fast. He's doing too much. He's doing too much. What is the word too? How is it too much of anything? Who is complaining about anything that Mumdani is doing? Who in New York City is worse off since Mumdani took over?

Instead, what we're seeing is that people in New York City are very happy with their mayor. And we're seeing that people across the country are getting FOMO for what's going on in New York City right now. People across the country are saying, where is my mom, don't I? Why can't I get one of those? Where is the Democratic socialist candidate who is going to come here and do all the good things that Mamdani is doing in New York? And something that I noticed, Jank, is that a lot of the times when they are criticizing Mamdani and talking about how terrible he is, they never say what he is doing that is actually

so terrible because it seems as though they don't have a whole lot to point to. They just don't like him because, one, he's Muslim, but also he's very outspoken against Israel, against Israeli support and against Benjamin Netanyahu. None of that is new though. We knew that since he was on the campaign trail. He was vehemently anti-Israel or at least very pro New York City. He said, I'm not going to Israel, I'm going to stay in the city that elected me to govern them. Why would I take an overseas trip to Israel that makes no sense?

So none of this is new. He's been very transparent about where he stands on things. Nobody should be surprised at any of the things that he has been doing since his time as mayor of New York, which hasn't even been that long. So what he's doing, he is moving very quickly. That person was absolutely correct. He is moving very quickly, but he is showing the rest of the world that things can get done. Things can get done a lot quicker than what we've been used to, a lot quicker than what we were told was the standard. So Mamdani is setting a new precedent and people are waking up to the fact that our government is wildly inefficient,

but not for the reasons that they say it is. Yeah, look, small note here. Look, I grew up secular Muslim, but I'm an atheist now. But I still a little bit of pride here in Zoroamam Dhani and Abdul al-Saeed, representing the average American, and that's why they're so popular. Like, if they did what the Israeli supporters do and Abdul ran a campaign on, we must support Egypt. And we have to give all of your money to Egypt.

Egypt's like the most important country in the world. You have to defend Egypt. If they attack all of their neighbors, it's all obviously the neighbors fault. And if Mamdani came in and he's like, listen guys, the most important thing about New York is Uganda. It would have been comical, right? But they do it about Israel and they say that's not comical, but it is. So but instead what they did was they said, yeah, we're not, I don't live in Uganda, I don't live in Egypt. I live in America, I live in Michigan, I live in New York.

We're gonna represent the average person here. We're gonna try to get money out of politics and we're gonna try to make prices more affordable. And even if Abdul's positions line up nearly perfectly with mine, Mom Dhani's a little to the left of me, but let the brother try, right? And so to your point, there's no economic calamity in New York. He's very popular. In fact, he's more popular with Jewish Americans than Benjamin Netanyahu is. And so these over-the-top attacks, they're outdated.

In the old days, this is what you run on Fox News and this is what you run all over traditional media and then you get people to hate the Muslims while you pretend to care about bigotry, but you only care about bigotry when you claim it's anti-Semitism. And it's not actually anti-Semitism, it's somebody criticizing a foreign country. So we've been through a million of these tricks, but what I love, yes, is that it's not working anymore. Abdul one in Michigan, Mamdani one in New York, they're both very popular. And so you could try to smear Muslims all day long.

You could demand that we all be loyal to a different country, but we're not gonna be. And so the fact that Americans are going, yeah, I trust the Muslim guy, because I don't think he's gonna serve a foreign government. I think he's gonna serve America. It's a beautiful day in America. Yeah, and I know you guys talked more about that in the first hour, because I was listening a little bit, but it's so refreshing to see that certain propaganda tactics are just not working anymore on the American people. I don't think we're infallible. I don't think we can't get

got again. But in terms of Israel, I think for the first time, at least in my lifetime, the American people are, their eyes are wide open to what is actually going on in Israel. And we know that none of that is new. If you just study the history, if you just look at it objectively, you can see that what is happening now has been happening for a long time. Not to this degree, but it has has been slowly happening and it has been allowed to continue to happen for decades since the impetus of Israel in the first place. And even the way that Israel came about was very problematic and it was very, it was very displacing of a lot of people. So the American people now, they have seen that and they have seen the absolute worst of it. We are seeing on our phones

every single day atrocities that are being committed. We are hearing things that Israeli officials themselves are saying to justify what it is that they're doing. Some of them are really not even trying to hide what they're doing. They're not hiding the fact that they don't like Arabs or Palestinians or Muslims. I know we just had a story on this show where we were talking about how Israeli Jews are now spitting on Palestinian Christians just because they're Christian. And they said it is our right to spit on them because it's an old Jewish custom. That is what they said. And they said that, you know, their idolatry, they're idol worshippers. So it's our right to spit on them.

That's what we're dealing with. And then they keep trying to tell us that we need to keep giving them all of our money. We don't have things like universal health care. They do. And it is very important that they continue to have those things while the American people pay for it. They keep telling us there's no money for it. But it's our money. So the money is there.

Where are somebody going? Yeah. Yeah. And look, I just want to clarify. real quick here at the end. So sometimes countries slip into religious fundamentalism like Saudi Arabia and now Israel. So I don't know a single Jewish American who would ever spit on anyone, let alone Christians going to church.

But unfortunately, a significant percentage of Israel has slipped into religious fundamentalism. And that's the kind of wackadoodle stuff that people do when they fall into extremism like that. And we wish that weren't the case, but unfortunately way too often nowadays in Israel it is. And that's why, by the way, 63% of Jewish Americans are against the current Israeli government. I keep repeating that fact because I want you guys to know, first of all, when we say Americans, it's all of us. Christians, Muslims, Jews, atheists, everyone. And secondly, I don't want you to blame people that didn't do anything wrong.

I do want you to blame governments that do things wrong. Israeli government is atrocious. And our support for them are disgustingly corrupt politicians who support them. And taking our money to pay for their crimes is an outrage. Good news, Jewish Americans generally agree with you. So let's all get on the same team. And right now, again, lots of good news in unexpected ways, that is what we're doing. And we're rallying around great Jewish candidates like Bradlander in New York and great

Muslim candidates like Zora Mamdani in New York. So super proud of America. unite and keep going in the right and moral direction. All right, we're gonna take quick break here. When we come back, Tucker Carlson reveals what the weekend meeting was about. I mean, Joe Kent talked about it on the Young Turks here yesterday, but we'll share what Tucker said just a little while ago when he went and explained it on his show. We'll be right back.

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dream big, and wake up better. All right. Now, let's go to our next story. Not to complain about it, but just to sort of set the predicate for the next stage in our lives as American citizens, we know that the parties are all. aligned on the issues that matter against the population. Now, how do we know it's against the population? Because we have public opinion polling. And it may not be precisely right, but over time, we get a pretty clear picture of people's priorities. And the big things that the U.S. government endorsed by both parties are doing, which is spying on you more,

moving an ever-growing share of gross domestic product to a smaller percentage of the population, invading countries, spending $1.5 trillion a year in a military, they can't win a war. etc, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. All the things that they're doing the big things, population doesn't want those things. Well, right, that was Tucker Carlson beginning to explain why they're considering starting a third party. He says the unit party never deliver for the needs of the average American.

Well, that portion is true. Yaz, what else did he have? Sorry, yeah, he had a lot to say, actually, Jank, and he did a whole monologue about it. He did call out the establishment. He said, the American people need to be heard, and Tucker Carlson is the one who is going to help them be heard. But he outlined his vision for America. And he gave 10 traits that he thinks that this new country going forward should embody.

So we're going to go through all 10 things that he said. And this is right now breaking. Like he's still probably talking right now. So he did say that he has proof, absolute proof that the establishment is broken. Tell me something I didn't know. So it is failing, according to him, to respond to two potentially apocalyptic. sorry, apocalyptic threats. One is nuclear war and the other one is artificial intelligence.

Let's watch. The two greatest threats, arguably in all recorded history, and those would be nuclear war and AI, are looming right in front of us. And no one in our society in a position of authority seems capable of responding at all or even really acknowledging that this is happening. It's like they're frozen, staring at the trees that approaches the windshield at 70 miles. an hour. It really does feel that way. And if you listen carefully, that is where we are. So we are moving toward, on this trajectory, if it holds, we are moving toward a nuclear exchange

because you have two conflicts, one in the Middle East and one in the near East, Eastern Europe, Ukraine and Iran that are suddenly somehow merging. And what does that mean? It means a world war. And the same goes for AI. Now, of course, it's unknown as with the wars in Ukraine and Iran, where AI winds up. And maybe it's just a big bubble. You know, it's the 2000 tech bubble. It's Pets.com, 100x, you know, maybe. Or maybe the predictions of the people who are developing the technology turned out to be true, which is that it's like the end. So that was one of his concerns. And he also was calling out the Democrats for agreeing with the absolute worst policies coming from. from the Republicans, hence the Uniparty, and one of those issues specifically was the Iran war. The most radicalizing fact of American politics in the last, I don't know, century is the confirmation that we got on or about February 28th that the parties on the big issues are identical.

Trump initiates the one thing he said he'd never do. A regime change war in the Middle East against Iran, a country much bigger and more powerful than the last regime change we attempted, which didn't work. And there were no protests against it because, of course, the leaders of the other party, his supposed enemies, agreed with them completely, as they did with his budget fundamentally, certainly with the tax code that he endorsed. And that tells us what? One thing at least that on the issues that really matter, the most obvious and historically significant expressions of exertion of power, which would be foreign policy and the budget tax code, the parties are aligned. They have the same agenda. So Tucker Carlson went on to argue that the downfall, the demise of the establishment is really only a matter of time. And what we need to be doing now is thinking about our vision for the future. Glad you're finally on board with that part, Tucker. But he did lay out 10 ideas of what he thinks America should be.

But first, Jank, I want to get your thoughts because he said a lot there. What are your thoughts on what he said so far? So so far, nothing objectionable. In fact, nothing inaccurate. So look, we talked to Joe Kent yesterday on the Young Turks and he explained that if they do do this third party, you know, Marjorie Taylor Green, Tom Assisi Tart Carlson and himself, they're going to have to reach out to the left because you can't win without that if you're really going to do an independent party that serves everyone. In order to do that, they got to, you know, basically set aside social issues. That's what he explained to us.

You can watch that clip on our YouTube channel as well. And so I'm not overly surprised that none of this is offensive. I mean, of course, it's offensive if you're a neocon or you're an establishment figure. And so in terms of the two parties, we know where they diverge. And it's not that they don't diverge at all, they do. They diverge on social issues, right? And so on those issues, I largely don't agree with Tucker Carlson. So he's amended some of his views there and softened it up.

Certainly when it comes to Muslim Americans, he's infinitely better than he used to be. And so are a lot of them, right, that are in that group. And that's terrific. And I'm glad they moved in the right direction. On the other hand, on LGBTQ issues, et cetera, we don't agree, right? But when you get to economic issues, he's largely right, there is a uniparty. And we've been talking about it forever. And we've told you a million times, and it's a line that originally, I think, started with

Glenn Greenwald. There's rotating villains in the Democratic Party. So whenever they need a vote to pass, and they are pretending to be against war, but they need a couple of Democratic votes for war, they're pretending to hold Israel accountable, but they need a couple of Democratic votes to give Israel everything that they want. But also true, big pharma, big oil, et cetera, the Democrats will always give the Republicans there's just enough votes and while pretending, oh, golly gee, there was nothing we could do. And when they get into office, they talk loudly about the social issues, but never actually

deliver for you on the economic issues. The Republicans don't even bother to deliver on economic issues. The only thing that they think matters is tax cuts for the rich, and that's the only thing they ever pass on that economic end. And always the Democrats have just enough votes to pass tax cuts for the rich. So the only criticism I have so far is that this is obvious. But great, I love that a big chunk of the right wing and a lot of their, you know, top advocates have now openly acknowledged that what we've been saying on the Young Turks for

20 years is exactly right. So that's a good day in America. Yeah, and I feel like I've said it before that being a progressive means being ahead of things and ahead of the tide. And so all of this might seem a little old or stale because we've been talking about it for so long. But it is encouraging that people like Tucker Carlson is coming around to like kind of seeing a little bit of what we've been talking about. So I did promise you his 10 points. So here they are. Number one, America should be fair to everyone because God created everyone equal. And when he talks about fairness, he means both in terms of the American

injustice system and the American economy. Number two, he said Americans should be a sovereign nation, not obedient to other nations. That is specifically what he's talking about. And he said that at the moment we are obviously obedient to Israel. Number three, America should be productive, meaning that it should make things that uplift people's spirits and make them happy. And I think that's a very good point. We don't really make things here anymore. And it is depressing us because we don't have any sense of purpose here. Number four, America should be aesthetically beautiful because, as he put it, being surrounded by beautiful things is good for your soul. And I 100% agree with that. Like, look at where I am, right? Number five, America should be physically and

spiritually healthy. And he pointed to our lack of food regulations and the abundance of SSRIs as signs that we are currently as a people very unhealthy. And I think a lot of people would agree with that as well. He said America should be honest and the American government should be honest to its citizens specifically. Also, Tucker said that the government should not be hiding the details of important events like 9-11 and the Kennedy assassination from the people. Number seven, he said that America should be optimistic, as in it should invest in its children and their future and maybe consider not cutting off education funding. Number eight, America should be wise by which he our education should prioritize and teach fundamental spiritual values over professional training

that later becomes irrelevant like coding. Okay, maybe. Number nine, he said America should be decent and caring. He said that the United States should not be aiding and abetting a country that is committing a genocide. What a hot take that is. Nor should we be doing war crimes in Iran. Tucker, he called out our rigged economic system again in this segment. And number 10, finally, he said that America should be united around a shared identity. And he also said that to that end, mass migration into the United States should be stopped. So that's a fun note to end on. That's quite a list.

Jank, what are your thoughts there? Yeah, well, so I agree with almost all of it. And obviously, he's trying not to be divisive. And that's great. That's wonderful. We love things that are inclusive, right? So let me lay out a couple things I like and a couple of small objections. I think they're small, but we'll see.

Maybe not on immigration, it depends on the devils and the details on that one. Okay, so number one, be fair to everyone because God created everyone equal. So I'm not a religious person, so I don't need God to validate that. But I love that he's saying as a right winger, be fair to everyone, do not discriminate. Guys, isn't that what we wanted for the right wing to say and mean, don't discriminate? That's great, okay, so I take yes for an answer. Then go down to number five, he's calling out how we're physically unhealthy. And by the way, part of the reason for that is things like high fructose corn syrup that

we've been railing against again for 10, 20 years here. So it's not just the A-PAC as an Israeli lobby, there's like, lobbies like big sugar, big corn, and our politicians work for them. And so we shouldn't have high fruit, or corn syrup in any of our stuff. It's adding a massive amount of weight to Americans. That's why we're more obese than others. There's other factors like that too, but we can't do the simplest regulations

because the lobbyists come in and purchase all of our politicians and their profits matters so much more than our health. So totally agree with that. So among the things that, you know, certainly people could disagree with is when he talks about, you know, we should find out the truth about what happened on 9-11, the JFK assassination. So some people on the, not really on the left, but overall go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, we know the truth. The official government story is definitely right. And anyone who ever questions the official government story is nuts, right?

And to be fair, I was closer to that category before, of what I just kind of caricatured there. Now I'm in the category of, no, why are there redacted parts of the 9-11 report? Why did we take all the bin Laden out of the country immediately? Why did we arrest dozens of Israeli spies and then immediately let them go? And I don't know the answers to those questions, but it's weird that our government isn't sharing it. The JFK assassination, the official government story was a joke, an utter joke. So what actually happened in JFK? I have no idea. Wouldn't it be amazing if we found out? So I don't find that part objectionable at all. but I'm pointing it out just in case somebody does.

And then in terms of our education, he says, teach spiritual values over professional training. Look, I'm secular, so I believe in professional trading. Yeah, sometimes, you know, markets move and industries move, and then the coding isn't as relevant as it used to be, but then you, you know, that's partly capitalism. It's kind of funny that I'm being more capitalist than he is in that sense, I think. And look, if you say to me, teach religious values, I don't agree, or whether that's It's teaching Muslim or Jewish or Christian values. But if you say to me, teach kids to do the right things and be moral and be good to one another,

I love it, right? And then so the only real thing that I could find objectionable at all is this shot against mass migration. But yes, there it definitely depends on what he means, right? So if you say mass deportations, I say, oh, no, no, I'm out, I'm out, I don't want that. That's crazy, right? Now, I don't think he means what ICE did. And I think that he objected to some of what ICE did and some of the others. But I don't know, I don't know those details.

And if he means close the border but have an asylum process that's safe, if he means a pathway to citizenship, well, yeah, then I agree with that. But I don't know what he means on that. So but we're not looking for, oh my God, get all every immigrant in here, there shouldn't be any borders. No, I'm not in that crowd, right? But I'm also not in the crowd of beating up on on immigrants just because they're immigrants. Yeah, and I think a lot of Americans are in that exact same crowd.

And yeah, Tucker, he did specify mass migration needs to stop. So we don't have the details on exactly what he meant when he said that. But it's, I think a reasonable immigration policy is something that a lot of people can get behind. Even the people who support ICE right now, or who did at the time of the election, I should say, are not happy about what they've been seeing, the brutality that has been handed to the American people. by members of ICE and the way that they're kidnapping people off the streets, the way that they're beating people and killing people. That is not the idea that a lot of the people who voted for Trump for in 2024, that is not what they wanted. So I think a lot of people could get behind

something like just a common sense immigration policy. He would also have to talk about the reasons as to why there was so much mass migration to this country, where are the people coming from and why are they coming to from those places to the United States. It's not something that you can just stop and put a band-aid on. Like there's a reason why all this mass migration is happening. And the United States is largely to blame for a lot of the reasons as to why some of these places are unlivable. It would make sense if people from Cuba, for example, would want to come over here now because we have food and they do not because of our president. So things like that need to be mentioned, I think. And then also he's talking like the things that he's saying

are so obvious to us. But I know that if it was somebody else who has maybe been like a three-time Trump voter lives in a maga bubble, that kind of thing, hearing somebody say things like, oh, America should be decent and caring and we should not be aiding and abetting a genocide. We should not be doing what we're doing in Iran. I don't know. Like I know it's, It's hard to believe, but the MAGA people that I know in my life personally, I think they would benefit from hearing those words just said out loud because I really don't know if anyone has said those words out loud to them, at least someone who is not me, at least not someone that they actually respect to some degree and that person would be Tucker Carlson.

I am curious as to what Tucker's influence with the MAGA crowd is right now. You might have more insight into that than I would. But one more point about the shared identity thing. He made that point in conjunction with the end to the mass migration. And I know what he's talking about, okay? The United States, we are the big melting pot. That was what made us so wonderful. But when I was growing up, it was celebrated as an actually wonderful thing.

Everybody was sharing things from different cultures. People might not have known a whole lot about your culture, but it was fun. If I get to learn about it, then that's fun for me, not threatening to me. me and my lifestyle. And it would be lovely if we could get back to something like that. As far as having a big like American culture, I was talking about this on my substack recently, actually, because culture really exists in vacuums. That's how it grows. It takes a lot of time and some relative isolation for a culture to emerge from a place. And right now we're seeing kind of the loss of culture or a really flat kind of bland monoculture that is not,

just eliminating regional differences and dialects here in the United States, but it's also muddling things overseas, specifically in Europe, also even in Asia, because they adopt a lot of Western ideologies, Western dress, Western music, all kinds of things like that. And so ultimately, we do sort of lose that idea of culture that we can all celebrate and latch onto as a result of increased globalization. And globalization is a very capitalistic idea. And I remember learning about globalization in college and it was just sold to us as like, this is a good thing because look, now we can have multinational corporations and we can

sell things over here and we can source things from here and we can have laborers over here. And it was a good thing because all of that contributes to economies of scale and we can lower prices. But the sacrifice there is that now if I'm traveling to Scotland, I don't need to buy anything because I can just wait till I go home and then buy it off Amazon instead. So culture in that sense, I get where he's coming from, I get what he's trying to do. I don't know how he's gonna fix it though. Yeah, so first of all, if you say, hey, this is a little benign and vanilla, first of all, great, right?

So what we were worried about with the right wing was that they would go not in the vanilla direction, but in a disaster's direction. And now some of their top leaders are saying, no, no, let's be fair to everyone. Let's not discriminate. Great, this is what we were waiting for, right? So, and how much is it affecting people? Well, they have millions and millions of viewers, right? Between Tucker and the rest of them.

And in the polling, you can begin to tell about a third of the Trump voters are now disaffected and beginning to go in Tucker's direction rather than Trump's direction. That's also good news. Look, in terms of a shared identity, it's a mixed bag because I don't want people to lose their roots, but I do want a common American identity, and we can have both. We can have the pizza from the Italians, we can have the pastrami from our Jewish friends, we could have, you know, kebabs from the Turks, et cetera, and still all be Americans, and that be part of our shared American identity.

And I think that that would be a beautiful thing. And so I think the main question that the left wing has is do they mean it? And so like we, I think it to me for the moment being, it doesn't matter if they mean it, because they're saying all the wonderful right things in those contexts to their audience and their audience believes them, and that's fantastic. Now if they wind up winning power, right, through a third party, that's a different equation. And so at that point, a lot of the left believe that they got a surprise plan for us.

And they're gonna pop out of a cake and say, you know, surprise, We're white nationalists and we hate you all. We were lying and all those years where I was telling everybody to treat everybody equal, I'm a giant liar, that's not true. Every, when I was telling you to not hate Jewish people, not hate Muslim people, I was just kidding. We're Christians and we're gonna run, do a Christian nationalism. Look, given their past, I understand why people are worried about it, right? So I'm not diminishing that.

And given what they say these days, you know, Tucker sometimes says he's a proud sexist. I don't like that at all, right? And things that they say about the LGBTQ community debt is not positive at all from our perspective. And so if you're worried and you're concerned and you don't quite trust them, yeah, of course you have to earn trust, right? But on the issues of war, on the issues of genocide and on the issues of American sovereignty, they have earned trust. On the issue of will you break from Trump or are you just full of crap, they earn trust because

they broke from Trump, they broke from the Republican Party. And they're headed in this direction instead. So we try to be as fair as we possibly can to everyone. So for, I would say so far so good, if you want to keep an eye out and be cautious, of course, of course you should, right? But if you want to say no, no matter what they say and no matter what they do, I'm always going to hate them. And I'm positive that they don't mean it and they're giant liars and they're going to turn

into the clan later. I mean, I understand why you're worried about the past, but for the moment being, they keep saying over and over to their millions of right wing followers to not do any of those things. And to me, that matters. Facts matter, what they say matters, which direction they influence people matters. So it doesn't mean that you should vote for them. It doesn't mean that you just jump in right away and trust and go forward, et cetera. It just means for me, I'm glad that a significant percentage of the right wing is for the first time in my life going in a really positive direction on some issues.

And if you say that sucks, that's weird. It's weird to say that sucks. That's wonderful that that happened. It doesn't mean that you just hand over all independent judgment to Tucker Carlson. It doesn't mean you vote for them. It doesn't mean you marry them, okay? It just means take the win on at least 50% of the issues. But if you look at this list, about 75% at least of these particular issues, they're going

the right direction. And then we'll battle them on the stuff that we don't agree on. And that's called democracy. And that's called America. And that's another beautiful part of America. We're allowed to disagree and we're allowed to fight over it and get to an answer that the American people are comfortable with. But so far, I've got to say, this is certainly not in the wrong direction.

It appears to be headed for the moment in the right direction, and I'll take it. I always take yes for an answer. Okay, we're way past time. All right, so we gotta take a break here, and then when we come back, Yaz is gonna stay, and we're gonna do Operation Joy for you guys. We'll be right back. I can't keep track of too many lies, you know what I mean? tired of the doom scroll you're not alone the entire system is designed to keep you glued to your

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