The Young Turks - Dr. Rahman Interview - August 20, 2025
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Welcome to TYT, I'm your host Anna Kasparian, and Donald Trump has declared himself and genocidal creep war heroes in the middle of attempting.
to get a Nobel Peace Prize. Can't wait to share that story with you, which we will in the first
hour later on. We're also going to talk a little bit about whether Israel should be considered
America's greatest ally, or maybe it should be considered something entirely different.
I'm going to get into a deep dive on that topic right at the top of the show. Later,
something I'm really looking forward to is a conversation with an American doctor who risked
his life to travel to Gaza and provide aid to Palestinian civilians who are being bombed,
maim, slaughtered, you get the picture. He is the same doctor who is interviewed by Theo Vaughn.
He actually saw our coverage of that interview, reached out. And I'm just very pleased to
know that he is willing to have a conversation with us here at TYT. So I'm looking forward
to that. We'll be doing that in the first hour as well. Second hour, Jank Yugar will be joining
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about these stories and we'll read some of your comments in our breaks when we do our social
breaks. All right, why don't we get to our first topic? This is like an existential situation
here is it's so bad to have this one country in the middle of the Middle East, which is a very
rough neighborhood, Syria, Lebanon, that likes us, that will help us, that would, if we ever
had a conflict there, help with our military staging, that has amazing intelligence that it
shares with us, that has amazing abilities to affect, you know, terrorist takedown plans, which
is also helpful. So like, these strategic reasons make sense to me, too, for our understanding
we don't have endless funds to spend some there.
Megan Kelly sat down with Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green for a discussion
about Israel, the Israel lobby, and the ongoing genocide in Gaza, which Representative Marjorie
Taylor Green rightfully labels as a genocide to her credit. Now, a declarative statement that
you just heard Megan Kelly make is something that we as Americans have heard over
over and over again.
You know, it's this claim that Israel is America's greatest and most important ally.
I think that is the greatest lie told in America to be quite honest, and I want to explain why,
point by point. Now, Megan Kelly brings up the sad reality that Middle Eastern countries
express some hostility toward the United States. And that hostility, in my opinion,
has a lot to do with our unwavering support for Israel, which essentially saddles us with a ton
of toxic baggage. The United States has done much to destabilize the Middle East on behalf of
Israel. Here's legendary political scientist and co-author of the Israel lobby, John Mearsheimer,
to explain in greater detail. Israel is a strategic albatross around their neck. The policies that
Israel pursues in the Middle East are not in our interest. The Zionists from the beginning have
wanted a greater Israel.
And David Ben-Gurion wrote a piece in 1918, and David Ben-Gurion, of course, is the
founding father of Israel, wrote a piece in 1918.
I don't think it's ever been published in English.
It's just in Yiddish, where he describes what his goals are for a greater Israel, right?
And it obviously includes Greenline Israel, Gaza, the West Bank.
It includes parts of the East Bank.
it includes parts of southern Syria, it includes parts of southern Lebanon, and it includes
the Sinai Peninsula. Just think about that. That was Ben-Gurian's vision. And this was a vision
that was shared by almost all the early Zionist leaders. And there are still many people
in Israel who are in favor of a greater Israel. They don't want a tiny Israel.
And that includes the current Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Nanyahu, who told the Israeli publication I-24 News that he is, in fact, a believer of the Greater Israel Project.
That was an announcement he made.
So let's not hide the ball here.
Let's pretend like we don't know what the real objectives are as it pertains to Israel's foreign policy.
So just think about that for a second.
What's in it for the United States and Americans as we aid and abet Israel's conquest,
which requires ethnic cleansing, genocide, and regime change wars in sovereign countries.
How exactly does that benefit us?
In my opinion, it doesn't.
Instead, it leads to hostility toward the United States.
For instance, here's Benjamin Netanyahu all the way back in 2002 advising Congress on what
foreign policy should be in regard to Iraq.
You can be in Melrose place, but it may take a long time.
On the other hand, if you take out Saddam, Saddam's regime, I guarantee you that it will have
enormous positive reverberations on the region.
And I think that people sitting right next door in Iran, young people,
and many others will say the time of such regimes, of such just bots, is gone.
Of course, the United States conducted a preemptive war and invaded Iraq in March of 2003
on the false claims that Saddam Hussein was harboring weapons of mass destruction.
He was a real threat to the United States.
Now, of course, there were no WMDs, nor were there IDF soldiers on the ground assisting
American soldiers in combat, but hundreds of thousands of innocent people died.
That stupid regime change war ruined the lives of so many people and destroyed that country.
And honestly, I can't blame the people of Iraq for feeling a little bit of anger toward the United States over what we did.
The real question is why we don't feel more rage here in the United States.
After all, we lost 4,492 American soldiers.
Another 32,292 American soldiers were wounded.
In addition to that, America's debt began to skyrocket with our meddling in the Middle
East on behalf of Israel. Between fiscal years 2001 through 2021, we've wasted away a minimum,
this is a low estimate of $1.6 trillion on wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria.
Israel was seeking the fall of Bashar al-Assad in Syria, of course, and we helped them fund the rebels during the Civil War.
And what was our reward? Having Ahmed al-Shara, a former al-Qaeda terrorist, become the new leader of Syria.
I was under the impression that al-Qaeda was America's foe, you know, with that whole 9-11 terror attack and everything.
But Israel won big because Syria's new leader is very deferential to Tel Aviv.
In addition to that, Israel was able to take advantage of the situation and invade the buffer zone in southwestern Syria and has essentially continued to occupy it.
Then on October 25th of this year, Israel went even further in its invasion of southern Syria while conducting air strikes on Damascus.
They actually did so the day after the Israelis called for the demilitarization of South Syria
so they can just swoop in and take the land.
So why are we helping Israel build an empire on our dime and with the use of our soldiers?
And as the Arab and Muslim world suffers from the consequences of this destabilization,
are we really going to pretend like we don't understand why the civilians
are upset with the United States.
But the U.S. has to be getting some benefit from its relationship from Israel, right?
Like, there has to be something.
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And luckily, hey, look, we've got ex-CIA agent Andrew Bustamante who certainly thinks so.
So let's hear what he has to say.
I am a staunch, staunch supporter of Israel's importance to the United States.
They are the first wall of in defense for us.
We, there's a reason that we everybody's up so much at the end of World War II,
because we had to build walls around the American boundary.
We needed to manipulate Europe.
NATO is there to protect us.
We're not there to help Europe.
NATO's there to protect us.
Israel's there to protect us.
We continue to our presidents like Biden call the Saudi Arabian prince all sorts of horrible
names and promise justice, but it never happens because Saudi Arabia protects us.
Americans for sure don't want our enemies at the gate.
So we let our enemies go to other gates.
And then in diplomatic channels, military channels and intelligence channels, we give them the tools
to fight the fight.
Israel doesn't trust us.
They know we have set them up to take bullets instead of our people.
They know that we put them into a country that's surrounded by their enemies.
They understand that every proposition and accord that we try to force them into benefits us more than it benefits them.
The Saudis were involved in 9-11.
Did we forget that?
The Saudis are protected.
What?
What was that?
Israel protects us.
Which country decided to use its military might, its soldiers, and its bombs to strike Iran's nuclear sites?
Was it IDF soldiers? No, it wasn't. It was American soldiers that did that.
What is this guy even talking about? Okay, so we, the Americans, decided Israel would be established in the Middle East where they'd be surrounded by their enemies.
decided that? It wasn't, you know, due to the fact that the Israelis consider that area the
holy land. It wasn't the result of the British foreign ministry, which through the Balfour Declaration
of 1917 promised that a Jewish state would be established in a plot of land inhabited by
the Palestinians. How the hell was that guy in the CIA? That is some of the most depressing
news I've heard in a long time. And honestly, like the delusions don't end there. Here's more.
That's you're very open about the fact that the Masada is extremely reckless, very open open
about the fact that, you know, we don't have to solve Iran's problem because that's Israel's
problem. We just give them the money and go, you go do it, right? What do you need here?
Go do it. It's on you. And you guys pretty much can self sustain yourself. Even better,
we don't give you the money. We sell you the weapons. So we make the profit, but you're still
You're still giving us.
You're still buying an American dollars.
American taxpayers are forced to provide Israel with $4.8 billion in military aid each year,
as part of a 10-year agreement called the Memorandum of Understanding.
On top of that, we've been funneling tens of billions of dollars of additional money to Israel
since October 7, 2023.
In fact, why don't we take a look at this handy dandy chart, which shows you the top
countries we provide both economic and military aid to.
Israel, of course, beats every single country, with American taxpayers shelling out more
than $310 billion that we've given to Israel up until 2024.
Egypt, who we essentially bribed to play nice with Israel, is a distant second.
with around half as much foreign aid from Americans.
He literally just said that Israel buys weapons from us with their own money.
Israel had an economic surplus in 2021 in the middle of a pandemic.
The United States is 37 trillion dollars in debt.
They have universal health care, paid family leave, all sorts of perks and benefits that
their pay pigs here in America don't ever get to take advantage of, we're like drowning in
debt while their economy remains strong. And this guy was in the CIA, he has the audacity
to tell people that they're helping us economically by buying our weapons. Now look, one could
argue that the military aid that gets funneled to Israel does benefit some Americans,
namely, you know, that teeny tiny group of defense contractors that stands to profit. But actually,
Even in that case, there's a bit of a loophole that Israel gets to benefit from.
Let's take a look.
This is really interesting.
We give a ton of money to all these foreign countries.
And if it's military aid, they're required to buy purchase weapons from our defense contractors.
Except Israel is the only one with an exception.
They don't have to buy from our American defense contractors.
They can use that money to buy from Israeli defense contractors.
Oh, wow.
So there's a funny little, a little exception.
So we are paying the costs in both blood and treasure to help our special ally build their military
and their empire. Got it. But hey, at least we have a country that's friendly and nice to us in
the Middle East, right? Let's ask another former CIA agent, John Kyriaku.
Who did you not at all trust, even though you had to work with them?
Israelis.
You didn't trust them?
Not as far as I could throw them.
You or was that a cultural thing?
It was cultural.
But my very first encounter with the Israeli intelligence service, the Mossad, was I was a brand
new analyst.
This is like March of 1990.
And I was instructed to participate in a large scale briefing of the Israeli Mossad.
and shin bet representatives in Washington.
And we don't allow the Israelis into CIA headquarters because they would always come
with gifts and the gifts had always listening devices packed inside them.
And you know, somebody brings you a gift to you x-ray it.
It's the normal process.
And we're like, you guys can't keep coming back here every single time trying to bug our
conference rooms.
So no more.
And was it easy to x-ray and see that they had bugs in them?
Yeah.
What percentage in the time that gifts have bugs in them?
100%. They're so nice to us. And look, honestly, I can't be upset with Americans who drank
the pro-Israel Kool-Aid because the propaganda has been ingrained in every single facet of American
life. You know, just as one example, guess who published the textbooks? Americans' children,
or America's children were made to read in our public schools. You know, just a guy by the name
of Robert Maxwell, who was not only the father to child groomer and child predator,
Galane Maxwell, but he was also an Israeli spy. If you don't believe me, take a look at this.
The same year Maxwell acquired the mirror, he accompanied fellow British business tycoon, Gerald
Romsden, to a meeting with the Israeli prime minister. For decades, Maxwell had kept his
Jewish roots private, but Ronson convinced him to admit his ancestry. Midway through their meeting,
Maxwell announced he wanted to invest a quarter of billion dollars in Israel and agreed to share security intel with the Mossad.
Maxwell kept his word.
Two years later, an Israeli nuclear technician named Mordecai Vanunu went to London hoping to blow the whistle on a dangerous nuclear arms program.
He was prepared to sell the evidence to the Sunday Times, but Maxwell persuaded him to sell the story to the mirror instead.
Maxwell sent the picture to the Israeli embassy in London supposedly to confirm the truth of the story.
But Maxwell never paid Vanunu and never ran the story either.
Later, Vanunu was drugged and kidnapped back to Israel, where he was imprisoned on crimes against the state.
Some years later, at Maxwell's funeral, Israeli president Shimon Perez personally praised Maxwell's services to Israel.
It wasn't clarified in the script for that video, so let me just make sure we're all on the same page and we know what we're talking about here.
That dangerous nuclear arms program that Robert Maxwell wanted to avoid any news being published about belonged to Israel.
Israel was conducting that dangerous nuclear arms program.
They were stealing nuclear secrets from the United States.
They're a special friend.
They're so nice to us.
and developing nuclear weapons that till this day, they refuse to acknowledge, till this day they refuse to engage or be part of the non-proliferation treaty, till this day, they are engaged in that kind of nefarious activity, whereas Iran was part of the non-proliferation treaty, had inspectors in their own country, and there was confirmation that they were not building nuclear weapons.
But Israel got its dog, the United States, to carry out strikes against their nuclear sites anyway.
Anyway, back to Maxwell.
Maxwell acquired the Science Research Association in 1988 and positioned it as the centerpiece of his educational publishing business in the U.S.
And Canada, by the way.
Sorry, Canadians.
Later, SRA would merge with McGraw-Hill's Educational Publishing Division to form a joint venture which became a major force
in the U.S. textbook market.
Maxwell also acquired other educational publishers like London House and McMillan,
which only helped him further expand his reach into the educational market.
We've been part of a long-term propaganda campaign that seeks to brainwash us into selling out our own country, really,
to help Israel build its own.
And now we're all complicit in a horrific genocide.
So excuse me if I refuse to buy the lie, and it is a lie.
lie that Israel is an ally to the United States. And it appears our government and portions of our
media aren't really allies to the American people either. We got to take a break. We'll be right
back.
Welcome back to TYT. I'm your host, Anna Casparian, in a little bit after we have an
I will read some of the comments coming in from our members, but I want to, you know,
maximize the time that we have for this segment for the interview. So without further ado,
let's get into it. The few American doctors here are doing what they can to help Palestinian
medical staff. A photo above Zanab's cot reads Zanab the Queen. She suffers from a condition
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but Israel is casting doubt on claims of famine.
One thing that has given me a little bit of hope in this entire nightmare that's currently
transpiring in Gaza, which of course is aided and abetted by the United States, by our
government, by our tax dollars, is the fact that we have brave and courageous American doctors
who will literally leave their families, risk their lives to provide medical aid to Palestinians
who are suffering from the brunt of this ongoing genocide.
One of those doctors is actually an individual I spoke about last week.
His name is Dr. Aziz Ruman, and he was recently interviewed by Theo Vaughn.
I encouraged everyone to check out the full interview, and if you haven't already, please do so.
But luckily, today, Dr. Ruman is here to speak with us.
And I'm so grateful to have you, doctor.
Thank you for joining us.
Thanks for having me, Anna.
I'm really excited.
I'm really excited to speak with you.
You know, you had a lengthy interview with Theo Vaughn,
and I don't want to ask you the exact same question.
So I really, I'm gonna make a point to kind of have you elaborate on some of the things that you did say during the interview.
But before we get to all of that, you know, I just want to remind the audience that, you know,
the doctor actually worked at Nassar Hospital.
And if you remember any of our coverage of some of the things that happened,
to Nassar hospital throughout the last two years, you know, you'll remember the rage,
you'll remember, you know, Israeli bombardment. You might actually remember this.
In Gaza, medics and civil defense workers are still recovering bodies from mass graves
found at the Nassar medical complex for the six day in a row following Israel's siege on the
hospital. Over 320 bodies have so far been discovered, including women, children,
patients and medical staff.
to complete their treatment.
The simplest thing like being killer and the anesthesia, we don't have, we don't have cause.
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So doctor, now that you've experienced what Nassar Hospital was like, I mean, tell me what it was like,
you know, serving patients there under conditions like that.
Yeah, so there's a story of serving the patients and then there's a story of the health care
workers themselves, especially in the setting what you just described of the mass graves being
discovered in the grounds of Nassar Hospital. We were actually on the fourth floor balcony.
We were looking over what was now a parking lot, but that was what was in 2024, the mass
grave. And it was just really odd to see buses of all the employees coming down and just
driving over that area because there's no space anywhere else. But as for the patients
themselves, it was just a constant influx of women, children, men, boys, girls, and
elderly handicapped and it just no no one you know way to describe just the chaos that ensued
with all the family members coming in going up and down the stairs took way longer than it
needed to because they're just packed with people trying to sit on a stair because they
are feel safer in the hospital than outside of the hospital even in the Mawasi refugee
camps where it's supposed to be a safe green zone so it was just absolute hecticness
all time throughout the hospital and Osra hospital you know there have been videos
IDF soldiers inside hospitals, intentionally destroying some of the equipment, making it even more difficult to provide care for those who have been wounded.
Did you see any of that or experience any of that during your time at Nassar Hospital?
When we first got there, they had put red zone right outside the hospital when we were really afraid that they would invade Nassar Hospital.
And they've done it before, so we were taking it very seriously.
The organization I went through, which was a refma worldwide, advise us, you know, if they come in,
just follow their instructions, do whatever they say.
But luckily, that didn't happen.
That said, I talked to many of the healthcare workers there.
And, you know, the last time in 2024, they shot into the hospital.
And then the hospital director called the Israeli Army, said, why did you do this?
Like, what's going on?
And they said, oh, you did that.
You guys exploded an oxygen tank, which was complete, you know, you know,
chaos because then they invaded afterwards. But just walking throughout the hospital, you see the destruction. In the burn unit, you see where the drone struck the journalist. And, you know, there's five-bed burn unit that's completely destroyed. You even go to the radiology area. And there's a, there's like cinder blocks blocking up a door that was exploded by a tank shell. Yeah. So everywhere you walk through Nassar Hospital, you see signs of the destruction. And you see names of the destruction. And you see names of,
the idea of soldiers on the walls and I was told they took selfies and that area kind of
to show off on their social media that hey I was here, which is absolutely insane. But no,
we actually didn't see any Israeli soldiers while in the Nasser Hospital Khan Yunus area.
In the distance we could see the tanks, the drones, the jets, the patchies. And then upon
entry and exiting we could see the soldiers and they're kind of battalions.
You know, one of the claims that Israel makes in regard to why these
hospital attacks happen is that they're allegedly being used as Hamas command centers,
essentially headquarters for their military operations, even though Hamas obviously doesn't
have a military. So, you know, I know you told Theo Vaughn that you didn't see any Hamas militants,
but was there any conversation about Hamas using hospitals as command centers?
Was there any gossip about that, any rumors about that?
I think what I was trying to convey is no one really has time to talk about Hamas and they're
just trying to survive. They're trying to go with GHF sites, get food. If they can't, if they
can afford it, they'll go to the markets. That's it. As I mentioned on the show, I was curious.
So I asked the questions that nobody else was talking about, which is like, hey, tell me more.
Like what's going on out there? And are they actually here in the hospital? Like what's
going on with Chiffa Hospital? They said there was a huge tunnel system underneath with
European General Hospital, which was I was supposed to go. But they blew it up. I was really
excited to go there because they had an angiosuite to do interventional radiology procedures.
But I asked like what, you know, was there actually a tunnel underneath the hospital?
And everyone, you know, blatantly denies it. In fact, I'm waiting for some actual evidence besides,
you know, some gossip here and there that there was a tunnel. So, you know, in short, we did not see
any combatants in the hospital. We did not treat any obvious combatants. Like I mentioned, it's not
like they're wearing a vest that says, you know, Hamas. And then to, to assume there's the tunnel system
underneath the hospital. I mean, that's the responsibility of a special force to figure that out.
You can't just bomb the hospital and assume something's underground. You know what I'm saying?
Dr. Ruman, you know, you shared the story of the conversation you had with your wife prior to
leaving for Nassar Hospital. And I'd like to believe that if I were in your wife's position,
I would be as brave as she was, that I would be willing to make the kind of sacrifice that she did.
especially given the fact that, you know, the IDF is not going to be able to distinguish
whether you're a, you know, a Palestinian, I mean, you honestly don't look like a white
American, right? So was there ever a moment where you feared for your own life? Because the IDF
has been able to just slaughter people with impunity. I mean, American citizens in the West Bank,
which of course Hamas doesn't govern, have been killed by Israeli settlers with impunity.
So was there ever thought in your mind that this might be it for me?
Yeah, I mean, before I even went there, I kind of went back and forth many times to actually decide whether I want to go through with this mission.
In the end, it was a resounding yes. And I'm glad I went because the stories I came back with just absolutely life changing.
But that said, even when we were there, just seeing the destruction around you,
And seeing how there's a bomb about every 30 minutes up to 200 meters away, and you can constantly hear the military activity to the point that they almost, our organization was telling us, they might actually invade Nasr Hospital.
I mean, there was six American, four American doctors in this group of six doctors.
And we were constantly just keeping our families up to date.
You know, we're just making sure we told them we love them at the end of the day.
Because even at night, like you just wake up in middle of the night with this ginormous bomb and it just rumbles your eardrums, the doors, the windows.
So, yeah, I mean, I never felt imminently at death, a threat to die because I'm not Palestinian or local.
But you are right. Could they have mistaken me? Absolutely.
And that's why we were told to always wear our, you know, vests that have the logos of the organization we're with.
if we can carry your phones, because they say that the drones can actually track who is where,
and we're all connected to the Israeli towers anyways.
So I kind of believe that.
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So let's talk a little bit about the patients.
You know, describe to me what you experienced, what were the more.
memorable patients that you treated while you were in Nassar?
Yeah, so if you watch the interview, I talked about the 30-year-old woman with the extracted fetus, and I talked about the 15-year-old Amir.
And those are some of my most intense memories, but there are many, like, there's just so many different stories.
So for example, I remember getting there with a seven-year-old child who had a strappinal injury to his abdomen, had a
He had two surgeries already into his abdomen in a matter of a week.
And when I got there, he was yellow as a crayon.
And his Billy Rubin was like 40, which is almost incompatible with life.
And so they were waiting for someone to do something.
And it just so happened that I, my specialty was there to be able to treat him.
So when the doctor advised the parents that this doctor, this American doctor is going to take
care you, they were just begging me to do it immediately.
And once we were able to do that, he got me put the drain into his liver to relieve
that obstruction, the blockage, and he got better.
But my point is like, if we weren't there, there wouldn't be enough doctors to do
these procedures on these patients.
And unfortunately, what's happening now is is just blocking even NGOs and medical
groups such as Rahma, they just got blocked from going their next two missions indefinitely.
I'm not sure, I think Catholic relief services got banned.
So, you know, what's happening right now is physicians are being blocked from going to Gaza.
And we're like really that last hope.
That's I hadn't gotten that update.
I can't imagine what kinds of excuses are being used to block medical professionals into entering the Gaza Strip.
But I actually think it's important for you to, if you, if you are willing to do so, of course,
because it is a horrific incident and case, if you're willing to talk a little
bit about the 30-year-old woman because I think her story is an important one to share.
So for those of you who heard him talk about it on Theo Vaughn's podcast, apologies,
you're going to hear it again. But I think it's important for those who haven't heard it
to really understand the reality on the ground in Gaza.
Yeah, and this is a story I saw, right? I firsthand visualize this, but this happens so
frequently. And I will reiterate it because it is so powerful and disgusting and wrong and
unnatural, but essentially a 30-year-old, we see her in the trauma bay.
She, her blood pressure is dropping. We do an ultrasound of her uterus.
She's about 14, 15 weeks pregnant, making sure the baby has a heart rate.
But unfortunately, we don't find any fetal heart tones, so no baby heartbeat.
So her blood pressure is dropping. We take her emergently to the operating room,
and they do a fetal extraction, and they have to remove the uterus.
When we looked at the fetus, it's just so wrong.
It's, you know, we have fetal demise for so many medical reasons and it's natural, right?
But to see an exploded fetus with blood coming out of the neck of the fetus, which is, you know, so tiny, it's, it's despicable.
And on top of that, even though the woman survived, she's never going to have a baby again.
So she went from almost having a baby in a few months, to never having a baby again, to having the memory of an exploded fetus by the occupation. It's just, it's something that I lost sleep over when I was there. And I continue to think about because, you know, as sometimes when I'm scrolling through my pictures, preparing for these interviews, I come across that fetus again. And it's just, it's just so devastating. And I actually did a grand rounds at one of my hospital.
here and I share that picture. So it is available to see. I wouldn't advise anyone
to just see it for the sake of seeing it, but it really just goes to show you the brutality
that's going on there. Yeah, I mean, I definitely would not be able to handle seeing it.
Just hearing you talk about it makes me, I have a difficult time with it, but I think it's
so important for, you know, these atrocities to be documented, you know, and for the evidence
of what's actually happening on the ground to be available. So people know what the truth is.
And when you hear about these stories of how people have been maimed, you know, it makes me wonder how the Palestinian people feel about Americans.
I'm not talking about the American government, but about the American people.
Because as I'm sure you know, it's not like we really have much of a choice in whether or not, you know, tens of billions of our dollars get funneled to Israel to carry out these atrocities.
Both political parties support it. Both political parties do as they're told by the Israeli government.
And I really, it breaks my heart. I feel a tremendous amount of shame.
And I feel our only saving grace happens to be people like you who are there providing aid and really risking your life to do it.
But what sense do you get from the Palestinian people in regard to Americans?
Well, as you, as you know, they have no hope in them politicians.
For the people, they, it's mixed feelings, you know, so one of the first questions I got asked when I was there is, you know, were you part of the encampments? Were you part of the protests? Because they want to, they kind of use that as a baseline. Like, are you actually speaking up on behalf of us? Are you using your free voice that you have in America that we don't have and actually speaking for the oppressed, you know? And by the way, they're very selfless people. They want you to speak up for the oppressed everywhere. Yes, they want you to speak about Gaza, but they want you
to speak up on Sudan and all the other places that that unfortunately oppression is really rampant.
But I will say majority of people know that the citizens of America have nothing to do with this.
They know that most Americans are just busy trying to pay their taxes, pay their mortgage,
take their kids home from school. They're humans too. They go through the same kind of life that
we do, aside from the fact that they have to go through nine wars and 10 years or something like that.
So, no, I don't think that they have anything against American citizens.
To the point, I even will go as far as to say, like, if they can just have peace, they would somehow figure out a way to coexist with Israel, because they just don't want killing anymore.
They just want to live as human beings.
But the problem is, are we really going to get to a state where everyone has equal rights and is a complete equal democracy like we're supposed to have in America?
Are we actually going to get to that point there?
I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, look, I love all the wonderful people out there who truly have the optimism
necessary to believe in a one state solution.
I am not one of those optimistic people.
I think two states makes a lot more sense because I think the Palestinian people deserve
their own state self-determination without the meddling and, you know, the scheming
that we've seen by the Israeli government to prevent them from being able to live lives
of dignity, you know? And so I'm, I'm kind of terrified to know the answer to this because
I know that it is an issue. You know, recently there was a graduation in Gaza featuring a
thousand children who have been orphaned. That video is really difficult to watch. But I'm
curious, when it comes to children who don't make it, you know, they get whatever medical
aid, they can, but they don't make it. Have you experienced patients, children who have passed,
but no one claims their bodies because their adult family members have also been killed?
Of course. I actually went to the morgue when I was there at one of these GHF massacres.
After one of the GHF massacres, and there's this gazebo. And they're just 10, 15 bodies there.
waiting to be claimed. And some of them are kids. Some of them are adults. Some of them are elderly.
And sometimes a family comes by and identifies one of them. You just hear this really large shriek.
And it's devastating. It just penetrates your heart. But yes, absolutely. There are 15-year-olds, 12-year-olds, 10-year-olds,
just waiting to be identified in the white plastic wrap that their bodies in with a zipper tied up.
And yeah, no one claims them.
And eventually the Ministry of Health has to document it and bury them.
So yeah, that happened.
Even today, one of my colleagues I keep up with there, there's maybe a 10 year old boy,
father, mother, sister brother got a bomb, they all died.
This kid had 50% burns and they tried to keep him alive when he died too.
So he's the last part of that family and he's going to have to be buried by himself.
So this, unfortunately, is so common, you know, there's hundreds of us physicians who have been there.
I appreciate your kind words, but, you know, this is truly part of our Hippocratic oath to humanity.
It's not just to Americans, it's to humanity, no matter what color you are, no matter what language you speak.
I don't think I deserve the praise.
I think this is an obligation to us as physicians and nurses, healthcare workers.
I would love to treat an American patient equally to a Gazan patient.
And at the end of the day, the human body is a human body.
When you do a cat scan, guess what?
We all have the same organs.
We all look the same on the inside, believe it or not.
So that's how I feel.
Well, I know you don't want the praise, but too bad.
Dr. Ruman, you are, you make me proud to be American.
I think that you are an example of American greatness.
And I just thank you so much for everything that you're doing.
Not only for what you did in Gaza, but the willingness to speak about what you experienced and what you saw with
your own two eyes, especially in a context where so many journalists in Gaza have been killed,
hundreds of them. And so getting the truth out, talking about what's actually being happened,
what's actually happening, especially as someone who is, you know, you've bared witness to it
is so important. So Dr. Aziz, Ruman, thank you again. Thank you for being generous with your
time. Any final thoughts before we go? Yeah, just like you mentioned, the fact that journalists
aren't allowed there, you know, yeah, sure, it's healthcare workers that have to be the journalist,
but it's you guys, you Anna, and all the other, you know, media that's really doing their part
to, you know, disseminate this knowledge amongst the people in America. And I think, you know,
it's, it's so necessary for us to team up with you guys and really share what's going on. And,
you know, just keep it up. I know you're getting a lot of hate, you know, especially I saw
your Canary Mission thing yesterday. You know, don't let that stop you. You're so
brave, you know, don't let these people stop you. You're speaking the truth. And when you get
closer to truth, unfortunately, people get very upset. And I really respect you for that.
Thank you. Ain't nobody going to stop me. Let me just tell you that. So thank you again.
And please keep in touch. If there's anything else that, you know, you want to update our audience
with. You always have a place here. Thank you again. And have a great night.
I appreciate that. Thank you.
All right, everyone. We're going to take a brief break. And when we come back, we'll talk a little bit
about how Donald Trump has declared himself and Netanyahu a war hero, even as he's attempting
to get nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.
Welcome back to TYT. I'm your host Anna Kasparian.
Michael Cotevelli in our super chats has a fantastic suggestion. I would actually really love
to do this interview. Can you invite an interview the Jewish-Palestinian grassroots organization
standing together from Israel? They are behind many protests against Netanyahu to end the occupation
and the genocide. I would actually really love to speak to someone from that organization.
I have a lot of questions, especially about those who have taken to the streets.
You know, hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets in Israel over the weekend to demand
an end to the war. And I want to know what their motivations are, right? Like, are they worried
about what's happening to civilians?
Are they worried about civilians and the hostages or only the hostages?
I just kind of want to get the temperature in Israel because you see these mass protests,
which gives me hope, there's no question about that.
And then you look at the polling that shows upward of like 82% of Israelis love the slaughter
campaign that's going on in the Gaza Strip.
So I just would love to have a little bit of clarity.
And look, in Liberty and Guns We Trust, I tried my best to stay away from
from language like this because it's, I think it's a little too inflammatory.
But I'm gonna read your comment, I'm not gonna censor it.
Is, it's not reals, it's not reals, meaning is reals, like a cancer's tumor.
When you talk about it, it screams and causes us to bleed.
It's a literal blood leaching invasive species.
See this kind of language like we have to be careful with and we need to stay away from.
Because you also have to consider the fact that there are people out there,
who are not well, and if they hear inflammatory language like that, they might take it,
they might engage in violent acts against our Jewish brothers and sisters in this country,
and I don't want that to happen. Okay, so let's just be careful. You know that I condemn
Israel in the strongest possible terms, and that has led to me being a target, which I don't
care, I'm going to keep speaking the truth. But we also have to be as careful and responsible
with our language as we can be. I'm not trying to lecture you. I totally know where you're
coming from. But anyway, all right, now that that's out of the way, let's get to our next story.
Worked with your friend, Beebe, it's a good man. He's in there fighting. He's fighting. You know,
they're trying to put him in jail on top of everything else. How about that? He's a war hero.
Because we work together, he's a war hero. I guess I am too. Nobody cares, but I am too.
I mean, I sent those planes.
The man you just heard from is desperately seeking a Nobel Peace Prize.
Yes, President Donald Trump declared that despite the ongoing genocidal campaign in Gaza,
he and Netanyahu are war heroes, war heroes.
There's currently a warrant by the International Criminal Court for Netanyahu because of the war crimes he's committing.
But he's a war hero. Okay. Now, he made these remarks during a call in Hasbara Sesh with Neocon, Mark Levine.
And so Nenya, who did seize on that clip, he uploaded it to his ex page. And here's what that looks like.
Worked with your friend, Beebe. It's a good man. He's in there fighting. He's fighting. You know, they're trying to put him in jail on top of everything else.
How about that? He's a war hero. Because we work together, he's a war hero. I'm a war hero. I
I guess I am too.
Nobody cares, but I am too.
I mean, I sent those plans.
Wow, great.
It's great when the United States president steals American money and funnels it over to
a foreign government that's committing atrocities and a genocide in the Gaza Strip.
It's great when the statements of the American president can be used for propagandastic purposes
by the individual who is wanted by the international.
criminal court for the war crimes he's committing.
It's just all wonderful, it's all fine and dandy.
Wow, this isn't a stain on America's reputation at all.
Now, on the heels of what can only be described as the sloppiest cover-up of the F-Seed
files imaginable, Trump has suddenly become comically subservient to Netanyahu and
the foreign country of Israel, and that includes tripling down his support for anything
this precious war criminal Netanyahu wants to do, especially in recent weeks.
So what about the American people?
Let's actually take a step back,
because Trump is not a representative
of the sentiments that American people are currently feeling
toward the country of Israel, the government of Israel.
And it turns out that the American people
are actually moving farther and farther away
from supporting Netanyahu.
So in July, Gallup revealed the following.
Netanyahu rated unfavorably by majority of Americans,
For the first time.
Okay?
And it might have something to do with, you know, this.
The few American doctors here are doing what they can to help Palestinian medical staff.
A photo above Zainab's cot reads, Zainab the Queen.
She suffers from a condition that means she needs special baby formula.
Foreign doctors saying any formula they bring with them is confiscated by Israeli authorities,
part of a wider five-month blockade of the strip.
Images of skeletal Palestinian children like Zainab sparking outrage around the world,
But Israel is casting doubt on claims of famine.
Yeah, it turns out starving people to death, especially children.
Not a good look on the international stage.
People are going to kind of turn on you.
And that's what's been happening in the United States as it pertains to American perception
toward Netanyahu.
And why don't we take a look at the results of that polling that I had just referenced?
Because this chart will show you that, you know, favorability for Netanyahu has been
dropping considerably.
So Gallup has been asking Americans how they feel about Netanyahu dating back to 1997.
The green line represents Americans with a favorable opinion of Netanyahu, the orange line represents unfavorable, and the gray dotted line represents no opinion at all.
Okay. So if you look at this chart, you'll see that historically, more Americans have viewed Netanyahu favorably than unfavorably.
But that changed and it changed around 2021.
So the amazing thing is that Donald Trump very clearly knows how a massive portion of his own base feels about Netanyahu, the Israeli government, and what's currently transpiring in the Gaza Strip.
And they don't like it. To their credit, they don't like it. And they are vocal about it.
In fact, Trump even acknowledged this during his Hasbro session with Levin.
So let's hear that portion.
Thank you what you're doing, really for Israel, quite frankly.
And your support of the state of Israel is a lot of Israel, a lot of Israel hatred and anti-Semitism
and all the rest of this stuff swirling around.
And you stand there and you fight it.
So God bless you, my friend.
And you are, my friend.
We are, but so do you find it, nobody like you.
And you and Sean and a few people, it's not a huge group of people because it seems
to be heading in the wrong direction in many ways, but in the end we win.
Now it's understandable why some conservatives are rejecting what Israel's government is doing.
Number one, they believe in humanity, thank God.
But sadly, according to Gallup, the majority are still on board, likely due to the media
bubbles they exist in. So if you're watching, for instance, the Fox News channel,
Fox News, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a huge supporter of Israel, you're going to get
one side of the story and one side only. And you're very likely going to be supportive of what's
happening in Gaza. You're not going to see the images of the starving children or the
aftermath of the Israeli bombardments. You're not going to get an analysis of how much
American taxpayers are shelling out to bankroll this ongoing genocide. You're not going to get
that side of the story. So according to Gallup, again, the majority of Republicans are still on
board. Two-thirds of Republicans, 67%, now have a favorable opinion of Netanyahu compared with
19% of independents and 9% of Democrats. While Republicans have held a consistently more
favorable opinion of Netanyahu than Democrats and independents throughout the trend,
the current 58 point party gap happens to be the largest. And here's another important chart
to look at from Gallup. Let's put it up and I'll tell you what you're looking at. So this is
support for Israel's military action in Gaza by party ID. As of July, only 8% of Democrats
approve of Israel's actions in Gaza, and only 25% of independence feel.
the same. Both of those percentages have dropped drastically since October of
2023. Yet as of July, the same amount of Republicans approve of Israel's
genocide in Gaza as they did almost two years ago. 71%. Though many Americans
still support Netanyahu and the genocide that he is currently conducting,
independents are turning away from Israel in pretty huge numbers and that should
give us some hope. Meanwhile, the man who Trump calls a war hero is continuing to slaughter
innocent people. Drop site news reported this, just today. This is from this morning. The Ministry
of Health recorded 58 people killed over the past 24 hours, including 22 while seeking
aid. Three more people died due to starvation. In total, Israel has killed at least. And again,
And I want to reiterate, this is an undercount, 62,122 Palestinians and injured 156,758
since October 7th, 2023, according to the Ministry of Health.
The Ministry of Health is unable to access the Palestinian bodies that remain trapped under
the rubble. If you see aerial images of the Gaza Strip, you'll notice that it is almost completely
leveled. Every single building has been bombed. And so who knows what
What knows what the actual death toll really is.
I am horrified to find out, but one day we will.
And that day, when that day comes, we should pay very close attention to what the talking points are by the Israeli government and its defenders here in the United States.
What kind of story are they going to spin to justify the mass slaughter of innocence in the Gaza Strip as Israel takes that land for themselves?
All right, we're gonna take a break.
When we come back, I'm going to talk a little bit about what our secretary of Homeland Security wants to do with the border wall.
Come right back.