The Young Turks - End Of America

Episode Date: June 17, 2022

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You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. All right. All right, welcome to the Young Turks, Jank Uger, Anna Kasparan with you guys. interesting, howdy. Howdy. Interesting day. As you're watching the hearings, I would argue it's a little historic. I mean, the whole thing is historic, obviously. But even just the revelations that you see, I know we've gotten used to crazy, but we shouldn't get used to crazy.

It was intense what happened. There's literally a coup attempt in America. I mean, we should never normalize that. So we're gonna talk about that here in a second and then the rest of the show is as usual bananas. So Casper. Well, let's get started. Today marked the third day of hearings for the House elect committee and its investigation into January 6th. The hearing mostly focused on two main themes. In this case, John Eastman, Donald Trump's lawyer and his bogus political theories to essentially overturn the results of the election or pave the way for Vice President Mike Pence to unilaterally decide to hand the election over to Donald Trump. And then the other part was Trump's pressure campaign toward Vice President Mike Pence

and how that led to violence toward Pence, incitements of violence toward Pence, and we'll get to that in just a bit. But before we do, let's focus on the John Eastman portion of it, where they basically He basically made a case, a fascinating case, that John Eastman himself was aware that his own political theory, which was that they could use an alternate, bogus, fake slate of electors. He knew that that was not something that was protected under the Constitution or something that they could do. And I want to start off with a video featuring White House lawyer and Better Call Saul Lookalike,

Howard Hamlin, Hamlin lookalike, Eric Hirschman. I think he's kind of been a little bit of a star within these hearings because of how blunt he is in his communications. But here he is making the point about what everyone around John Eastman was telling John Eastman about his political theory. Let's watch. I said, hold on a second, I want to understand what you're saying. You're saying that you believe the vice president acting as president of the Senate can be the sole

decision maker as to, under your theory, who becomes the next president of the United States? And he said, yes. I said, are you out of your effin' mind? And I, that was pretty blunt. I said, you're completely crazy. You're out of your mind, you're completely crazy. This wasn't the first time it was communicated to John Eastman that using an alternate slate of electors was insane. There are other examples which will show you in just a minute, but Jank, I know that you have taken a particular liking to his communicative style.

Yeah, no, I look, remember, he's a White House lawyer and a Republican administration, so I'm sure that I would not agree with him probably on at least 80% of stuff. But having said that, he's been fantastic in these recorded pieces, because he's just being honest. And he's like, look, I don't care. I'm an American and I'm not going to destroy democracy for you guys. You guys are crazy. And as you'll see later, he's like, you better have a good criminal defense lawyer, man, because this is illegal and it's unconstitutional. And I want you to notice the bat in the background when he's testifying.

It's a bat on the wall that just says justice on it. So he must really mean it. Yeah. So I love that touch to it. But guys, like Eastman's coming out with the unique theory that one person can invalidate the votes of hundreds of millions of Americans and make democracy irrelevant, right? So that's an absurd theory. But remember, John U also had an absurd theory under the Bush administration that torture, which is illegal, was actually secretly legal. And you could torture anyone you like.

John U, I saw him last night on CNN. They normalize everything. So East Smith should go to jail for sure, as you're going to see here, he knows he's about that he would go to jail in a normal circumstance. He knows it, you're going to see the facts. But you know what? You never know. CNN might normalize him and make him a legal analyst later.

I honestly, I wouldn't put it past them. They've turned all sorts of unsavory, shady individuals within the Trump administration into contributors of theirs. Now, there are a lot of important and serious points to make. Jank has already made some of them. I'm in a little bit of a lighter mood, unfortunately, I guess, considering the subject matter. But you see it too, right? He looks like the character from Better Call Saul.

A little bit. I see that a little bit. I mainly saw during the hearings, the frown ladies, the one lady in the background that had such a significant frown that there were lines in her face. When she smiled, it was still in the shape of a frown. So don't get me wrong. I notice everything. Okay, I'm just saying, I mean, we've got evidence for you guys. You can judge for yourself. So here's Howard Hamlin from Better Call Saul, lawyer, literal lawyer who also has bleached blonde hair. And then here's the White House counsel. Just saying, just saying. You guys do what you will with that information. Okay. Now let's move on.

Email exchanges indicated that Eastman, in fact, knew that his theory was crazy. Let's take a look at that. Here, Dr. Eastman says the vice president can reject the Biden electors from the states that he calls, quote, disputed. Under several of the scenarios, the vice president could ultimately just declare Donald Trump the winner, regardless of the vote totals that had already been certified by the states. However, this was false. And Dr. Eastman knew it was false. In other words, it was a lie.

In fact, on December 19th, 2020, just four days before Dr. Eastman sent this memo. Dr. Eastman himself admitted in an email that the fake electors had no legal weight. No legal weight. And the House Select Committee also did a fantastic job in demonstrating that Eastman did in fact know that this theory was bogus, that he would not like if this idea had been practiced by other administrations, but he said, nah, we should go through with it anyway. In fact, here's that moment from the hearing. John, back in 2000, you weren't jumping up and saying Al Gore had this authority to do that. You would not want Kamala Harris to be able to exercise

that kind of authority in 2024 when I hope Republicans will win the election. And I know you hope that too, John. And he said, absolutely. Al Gore did not have a base. to do it in 2000. Kamala Harris shouldn't be able to do it in 2024, but I think you should do it today. I think you should do it today. No, I mean, I wouldn't want Kamala Harris to do it. But look, that point, let me just note, that point is kind of moot, right? Because that's what would happen in the future. But had the Trump administration, had Pence gone through with what Trump wanted, look, it was a power grab. And the idea was, Let's just try it.

And if it works, like all the other, you know, terrible, questionable things that Trump has done and has not been in any way held accountable for, well, then we're in power. And if they're in power, they can be in power indefinitely. It's a power grab with no consequences paid at all for that power grab, right? So Kamala Harris would never even get the opportunity to do something like that. Yeah, so there's two points on Kamala Harris. One is the one that I honestly have been making for a year and a half on the shows you guys I'm like, why don't they just say if their theory is true, Kamala Harris can decide the next

election unilaterally. You don't even have to bother voting. The vice president decides every election, according to John Eastman, and Donald Trump. Donald Trump is the, is patient zero who pushed this theory and demanded that Pence do this wildly illegal and unconstitutional thing. And so finally, they said it a year and a half into it. And when it was so cathartic when they mentioned Kamala Harris. And we should be asking Republicans, is that what you want?

Because if you think Trump's theory was right, Kamala Harris decides the next election. So which one is it? Which one is it? Is Trump full of crap? Is what he did illegal? Or can Kamala Harris decide the next election by herself? And Anna is absolutely right about the second point, which is that Eastman didn't think there was going to be a next election.

Exactly. He's like, just do it now. Not only won't we have Kamala Harris as vice president, if we just grab power, we'll never have to worry about another Kamala Harris because then we just killed all elections. It doesn't matter how you vote. We will be in charge in perpetuity because the vice president goes out every time and goes,

no, we won. No, we won, right? So this is not a little thing, and this is not political. There was actually a coup attempt in America. You're living in what history books are going to talk about. And what is amazing about it is, Right after the, and the historians will be shocked, they're not going to be able to believe it. Right after the coup attempt, everyone started debating it like it was 50-50. Yeah, that's right. That's right.

That's a really good point. And look, I think your analysis on this is right on the money. And what's even more terrifying about it is that our line of defense were all of these right-wing ideologues surrounding Donald Trump. that these are the people, these right wing White House lawyers, even members of Trump's own family, Sean Hannity, these were individuals who served as our line of defense, which is terrifying considering the track record these individuals have. Now, one other thing that stood out to me about the hearing was the fact that all these people surrounding Donald Trump, surrounding John Eastman, privately knew the political

strategy was bogus, was not in any way protected by the Constitution. But publicly they said something very different. In fact, Jason Miller himself admitted that during his testimony during this investigation. Another individual was actually Rudy Giuliani. He knew the fake elector theory was BS, but he promoted it on January 6th during his speech. Let's watch. Morning of January 6th, I think he called me out of the blue, right? And I was like getting dressed.

And we had an intellectual discussion about Eastman's, I don't know if it's Eastman's theory per se, but the VP's role. And he was asking me my view and analysis and had the practical implications of it. And when we finished, he said, I believe that, you know, you're probably right. Of course, the fact that Mayor Giuliani seemed to admit that the theory was wrong did not stop him from going before the crowd. Just a few hours later on January 6th and saying the exact opposite. Here's Mayor Giuliani's speech at the ellipse rally on January 6th. Every single thing that has been outlined as the plan for today is perfectly legal. I have Professor Eastman here with me to say a few words about that.

Given the questionable constitutionality of the election counting act of 1887, that the vice president can cast it aside and he can do what a president called Jefferson did when he was vice president. So again, privately, Giuliani acknowledged that what Eastman was saying was bogus. Publicly, he obviously publicized it, he promoted it, and he, this is what's really important. That speech was on January 6th. That is communicating to the crowd that what they're about to engage in is totally fine. They're protecting constitutional rights here.

Yeah, so first of all, of course, Thomas Jefferson never did that. It was a total lie. They explained that in the hearings. Second of all, there's another guy, Jason Miller that Anna referred to, but the same exact thing as Giuliani in private. And in fact, in his testimony, when he's talking to the lawyers, and he's got that mask He tells them, oh, we knew that our strategy was nutty, that has a quote, and like, that people were calling it nutty and that it was crazy.

So he knows, he knows. And then you see him on Fox News and he's like, oh, we got to do this. And the vice president has the authority. And no, they're going for the steal. Right. And so they had decided a core group. Remember, there was team normal, his campaign manager, the White House lawyers, et cetera, that are going, are you guys are nuts.

The 12th Amendment does not say anything. of the things that you guys claim it says, it says all you're supposed to do is count the certified votes from the elections. You guys are totally making this up. It's cool. And by the way, there's no fraud in the elections at all. We checked all of your kooky evidence. There's no goes through you go to. There's nothing, okay? But there's a core group of team kuku, Jason Miller, Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman, a guy named Cheesebro. He just came out of nowhere. It's like wangrove from heat, like they just have like the strangest cast of characters. Anyways, team kuku is like, oh yeah, we all know we're crazy and we all know it's a lie.

But let's just go out there and say it anyway and let's end democracy. Be done with it, we'll be in charge forever. So look, one last thing, John Eastman, how do we know that he knew? He asked for a pardon right afterwards. Yes, yes. So that was part of the testimony that was given by the White House counsel, Eric Hirschman, he said that on January 7th, he received a call from John Eastman. And in that call, John Eastman essentially asked for advice.

That's when Eric Hirschman told him, you better get a good effing criminal defense attorney. You're in a lot of trouble. I'm paraphrasing, but that's essentially what he testified he told Eastman. And then Eastman asked whether he could get on the pardon list. I mean, again, it reminds you of breaking bad. You don't need a criminal lawyer. You need a criminal lawyer, okay? And that's what John Eastman was in the first place.

Now here's a second giant piece of evidence. So when he was asked to testify here in front of the lawyers, like you see in all the tapes they're playing, John Eastman pled the fifth a hundred times. That's right. You know what the Fifth Amendment is? I say, I have a right not to incriminate myself. So he knows he's guilty. He's saying, oh, I know, if I told you, if I was honest with you,

with you, I would obviously incriminate myself because we did it. That's why I asked for the pardon, because I knew it was a crime. That is what is actions are screaming clearly and loudly. And still, by the way, you see all those Republican experts, almost everybody they're talking to is a Republican. Part of it is to give you a sense, this is not a partisan witch hunt or any nonsense like that. There's actual Republicans who care, but mainly they're trying to convince Republican voters,

you're not supposed to kill democracy. You're not supposed to do a violent coup in America. You're supposed to, when you lose an election, you're supposed to go a sad day. We'll get him next time. And you're supposed to do an orderly transition. That same Hirschman made Eastman say the day after. Say the words orderly transition. Say it.

And he wouldn't let him off the phone until he said, okay, we'll do an orderly transition. And then Hirschman hung up on him. Justice. There you go. All right, look, we gotta take a quick break, but we're not done with the hearing yet. There's the other element that I want to focus on, namely the threats that Donald Trump had lodged against Vice President Mike Pence and how Ivanka Trump reacted to those conversations. We've got that and more coming right up.

All right, back on TYT, Jay Canana with you guys, a lot more news. All right. On the third day of hearings for the House Select Committee investigating January 6th, they honed in on Donald Trump and his threats toward his own vice president, Mike Pence. He engaged in a pressure campaign. He incited violence against Mike Pence. And one of the moments that stood out was some of Ivanka Trump's testimony. about the way Donald Trump had communicated with Pence about essentially overturning the election unilaterally. Now, in the next video, you'll learn about Ivanka's reaction to how Trump pressured Pence to decide

the election results on Trump's behalf and how angry he got when Pence refused to do so. It was a different tone than I'd heard him take with the vice president before. Did Ms. Trump share with you any more details about what had happened or any details? about what had happened in the Oval Office that morning? That her dad had just had an upsetting conversation with the vice president. The word that she relayed to that the president called the vice president, I apologize for being impolite, but do you remember what she said her father called him? The P word.

The P word meaning the same thing that Donald Trump likes to grab without consent. So he was referring to Mike Pence with that word. And I mean, that's just really the tip of the iceberg. The tweets about Mike Pence on January 6th, as the riots were taking place to essentially continue inciting the violence and the threats against Pence, also the fact that he had mentioned Pence multiple times in rally speeches in the days leading up to January 6th, All of that was going on and it would take Trump four hours to finally tell the rioters to calm down and remember Mike Pence had to evacuate the area.

He had to be taken to safety because you had this giant crowd of Trump supporters chanting that they were about to hang him. And one other video I want to go to is this next one. It's a brief video that shows that no, it was clear that if they had gotten to Mike Pence on January 6th, they were planning to possibly kill him and others. Let's watch. The confidential informant from the proud boys told the FBI that the proud boys would have killed Mike Pence if given a chance.

This witness whom the FBI affidavit refers to as W1 stated that other members of the group talked about things they did that day and they said that anyone they got their hands on, they would have killed, including Nancy Pelosi. W1 further stated that members of the proud boys said that they would have killed Mike Pence if given a chance. And I've said multiple times on this show when people tell you who they are or what they're going to do, especially if they're on the right wing, you should believe them. And luckily they didn't get to Mike Pence or any other member of Congress.

It's actually shocking how few people died considering the incitements toward violence. And just how giant that crowd was and how much they overpowered authorities on that day. Yeah. So they also testified that the rioters are 40 feet from Mike Pence as they were evacuating him. So they got super close. And you saw the quotes there. If they had reached them, they were planning to kill him. And so Mike Pence, no, upon seeing all the details, we can disagree with them until the cows come home.

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He was. Okay. So they are going to escort him. They get him to a secret bunker as they're taking him down. By the way, the timing on this is really important. So earlier, Trump gets the notice that the riders are in the building and everybody's life is in danger. So he's already talked to Republican politicians.

At 224, he sends another angry tweet. about Pence, knowing that the rioters are in the building, knowing that they're trying to harm, right? At 226, two minutes after the tweet, Secret Service is like, we got to go. We got to go. Because he, you know, I don't know what the Secret Service was saying. They didn't testify. But remember, they were reading tweets out loud. The rioters were, and we saw a video of that. Everybody's aware, in the inside, the Capitol, everybody's calling Trump. God damn it, get the rioters off of us, right? So they're all looking for Trump to tweet. something. So my guess is Secret Service saw the tweet and thought, oh, that's it. This is,

we got to get the vice president to safety because it looks like the president's supporters are looking to murder them and the president has just encouraged them. Hey, Republicans, do you understand why we say it's fascist? It's not just a rhetorical flourish. We're not just saying it to attack you guys. Look, Pence met with Trump and reiterated that day, sorry, this theory makes no sense. I'm not going to do it. I cannot overruled the American people. I'm not going to end democracy today, right? And, and he said at one point, you know one person can't decide the election. And Trump said to him, but wouldn't it be cool if they could? He literally used the word cool. Yeah, that's a quote. Come on, come on, Republicans. What is wrong with you?

What is wrong with you? And then when Trump, when Penn said, no, it wouldn't be cool. No, I'm not going to do that. He said, you know, Mike, if you do this, you won't be my friend anymore. He said that. I know. It's a quote, okay? I won't be your friend anymore if you don't dismantle democracy single-handedly on my behalf.

But there's two possibilities there, Anna. One is he's a child. Oh, wouldn't it be cool if we were fascist dictators, okay? And who, but they won't feed you friends anymore, I take the bull and go home. The other possibility is more like a mob boss that says, but wouldn't it be cool if one person could overturn the election? And now, Mike, you got to understand, if you go out of this room and you don't do what I tell you, we're not going to be friends anymore. Yeah, and like a mob boss, I mean, he targeted him with violence, incited violence toward him. and as he was in an incredibly vulnerable state,

continue to incite violence toward him. So look, we've talked about what the point of these hearings are. I know that there are still people who are skeptical, mostly because we've all been conditioned at this point, to never expect anything to come out of any hearing, regardless of how persuasive the hearing might be. But really, the ball is in Merrick Garland's court, And if there isn't any real consequence for John Eastman, for Donald Trump, for the very people,

the people at the top who incited the violence and attempted to overturn the results of a democratic process, well then we understand that this kind of attempt could happen again in the future. There are consequences for the American people when people in positions of power are not held accountable with actual criminal consequences. A good example of that, honestly, is what happened in the aftermath of the Bush administration. Not prosecuting the Bush administration for war crimes sends a strong message to people in positions of power that they can essentially do whatever they want, and they never have to worry about accountability within our system. That is the message that's been sent to them over and over again, which is what emboldened people like John Eastman

to just try this out. What do we have to lose? It's not like we're gonna suffer any consequences from it. Yeah, one more thing about why Pence is a hero. So Secret Service then tried, once they got him to the secure location, they tried to get him in the car. And most of his team got in the car, he wouldn't do it. He said, I'm not leaving, I'm not gonna have the world see the vice president of the United States fleeing from our own capital because they're threatening basically my life.

I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna stay here and we're gonna finish this vote. And he stayed in that bunker for four and a half hours. The reason it had to be four and a half hours is because it took another two hours from the moment that they were trying to save his life and evacuate him for Trump to finally come out with a statement saying, okay, you guys are amazing. I love you. I love the love that you showed.

You guys are wonderful. But okay, maybe we go home, okay? No, we didn't get him this time. Maybe we go home, okay? It took two hours while his vice president was under threat of murder for him to finally put out a statement. And once he saw that his thugs had not murdered his own vice president. Republicans, what is wrong with you?

So that is the point of these hearings. There's two points. One is to set the record straight. And honestly, some of these details, I didn't know. I didn't know about the, you know, Pence in the bunker, et cetera. And I didn't know that he refused to leave. There's a lot that we're learning through this. And that's really important.

It's important for all of us to know it. But the second reason is for Republicans and independent voters to go, oh, Oh, I see. Jesus, I didn't know that if they'll ever watch, if they'll ever listen. And we don't know if they will. But you got to try. And of course, for God's sake, to Anna's point, will you prosecute anyone in the elites who's committed a crime? And that's why they do it. Understand the reason why Obama let Bush and Cheney off is because he had more loyalty to the elites than he did to the rule of law and to the voters. And we suffer the consequences of that.

And that led to Trump saying, what's the difference? Wouldn't it be cool if we were fascists? Right. And so now if Merrick Garland makes the same mistake and thinks, no, I'm more loyal to the elites than I am to the rule of law, we're screwed. The next time any Republican wins, they're definitely going to try this. All right, well, we're going to stay on this topic, but switch gears a little bit and focus on a massive conflict of interest within the United States. States Supreme Court, namely with Justice Clarence Thomas. overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election than previously thought.

And now, finally, the House Select Committee investigating the riots that transpired on January 6th are reconsidering their decision to include her in their investigation. Previously, they were leaning against it. Now, with some new emails they've obtained, they're reconsidering that previous decision. Now, they've obtained email correspondences between Ginny Thomas. and lawyer John Eastman, who of course played a key role in efforts to pressure Vice President Mike Pence to block the certification of Joe Biden's victory. Now, last week, a federal judge ordered Eastman to turn over more than 100 documents to the committee. Eastman had tried to

block the release of those and other documents by arguing that they were privileged communications and therefore should be protected. But considering the outcome and the ruling, the judge wasn't buying that argument and ordered the release of those 100 documents. Now apparently in those documents, there are exchanges between Ginny Thomas and Eastman, and based on individuals with knowledge of those exchanges,

it doesn't look good for Ginny Thomas, and she absolutely should be part of this investigation. Now, there are other things that we do know. For instance, earlier this year, U.S. District Judge David O'Carter ordered Eastman to release numerous documents to the committee. So this isn't the first time that documents have been ordered to be released to the committee. He also rejected the privilege claims that Eastman had used. And in April and May, Eastman turned over more than 1,000 documents to the committee. And again, now the committee is thinking, maybe we need to look into Ginny Thomas' role here.

And also, maybe someone like Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas should be recused for making any decision in regard to what transpired on January 6th. Now, here's what we also know about Ginny Thomas based on previous reporting. In the weeks after 2020, the 2020 election, Ginny Thomas repeatedly pressed Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, to overturn the outcome, according to text messages obtained by the Post and CBS, news. After January 6th, she told Meadows in a text that she was, quote, disgusted with Pence, who had refused to help block the certification of Biden's electoral college victory. She wrote, quote, we are living through what feels like the end of America, end quote. So attempting to steal the election on behalf of Trump, attempting a coup, she doesn't feel is the potential end of America and democracy as we know it. She felt allowing,

Biden to serve as president after he rightfully and fairly won the election, that's the end of America, according to her. There's more. In an email on November 9th, Thomas sent identical emails to 27 lawmakers in the Arizona House and Senate, urging them to stand strong in the face of political and media pressure. The email claimed that the responsibility to choose electors, which belongs to voters under Arizona state law, was quote, yours and yours alone, end quote, and claimed that the legislature had the power to fight back against fraud and ensure that a clean slate of electors is chosen. And there's more. And remember, this is what we already know.

There's still more that we're about to find out based on the latest emails that were obtained by the select committee. On December 13th, the day before presidential electors were scheduled to cast their votes and seal Biden's victory, Thomas emailed 21 of those lawmakers plus two others. Again, this is in Arizona. Before you choose your state's electors, consider what will happen to the nation we all love if you don't stand up and lead, the email said. It linked to a video of a man urging swing state lawmakers to put things right and not give into cowardice.

And this is a huge problem, as you've stated before, Jenk, because Clarence Thomas has already voted, ruled in a decision pertaining to the riots and the attempts to steal the election on behalf of Donald Trump. In January, the Supreme Court rejected a request by Trump to block the release of his White House records to the House committee investigating January 6th. But guess what? Unsurprisingly, Clarence Thomas was the only justice to dissent siding with Trump? Yeah, so there's one clear issue here. First on Jenny Thomas.

Look, I think she's legitimately crazy. I think she's bonkers. Like if you asked her, is the sky blue, I'm not sure you're going to get a clear answer. I think a lot of these right wingers are literally should be an insane asylum. I'm not at all kidding. So she believes fantastical things that aren't even anywhere near true. She's totally detached from reality. So Anna, that's a weird defense of her.

So does she know that she was trying to end democracy? I don't know that. I mean, she might have thought that the dinosaurs were going to come back and eat democracy. She's cuckoo for COVID. They're all nuts, including Clarence Thomas, totally, utterly nuts. Okay. So they live in an alternate reality where Donald Trump telling Mike Pence, hey, maybe one man should decide the elections and not the voters is more democratic,

not less democratic? How do you talk to someone who's not attached to reality, who doesn't understand words and language and logic? So, I mean, to that point, how do they even view America? She thinks it's the end of America as we know it. We view America as a democracy based on the rule of law and the constitution, et cetera. But I think that a lot of people in Jenny Thomas' position view America as we're in charge. We are America. And if we are not in charge anymore, then it is in America. So in their mind, that is not. not inconsistent. So now to the point of the story, obviously Clarence Thomas has to recuse himself from all of these decisions. It's not anywhere near close. Your wife is conspiring

with the people being accused of pulling off this coup attempt. She's having text messages with Mark Meadows, who's at the very core of their attempt. She sent emails to John Eastman who devised the plan for the coup. I mean, it's not anywhere near close. Remove politics from it. Imagine if it was a murder case or any other case. Your wife is excused of sending emails to the defendants. Of course you can't judge that case.

That's, I mean, look, if they're not, it's not just about Clarence Thomas. I get it. He doesn't care. He's a fascist. He would love for Trump to take over and end all of democracy. But it's on John Roberts. And if there's any honest Supreme Court justices left to say, no, I don't give a goddamn what you think, Clarence, you're not on these cases. It's not close. You recuse yourself or we remove you, period. Stop. Do you know how fast you were going? I'm going to have to write you a ticket to my new movie, The Naked Gun.

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Just blame Republicans, blame conspiracy theories, and enjoy being completely politically irrelevant. Because once you get displaced from power, we're not going to give it back. Republicans controlling, Republicans winning over Hispanics, will be the nail in the coffin. And we're not going to give that power back. That ominous message with fun music in the background was from Charlie Kirk on his show.

And if some of you think, well, it's Charlie Kirk, he says all sorts of nonsensical things. Why even bother listening to what he has to say? His message is very much in line with what Steve Bannon also said recently in a speech. And that speech, I would argue, is actually pretty terrifying because there are some. some elements to it that are accurate so far, showing that the right wing quest to take over the country, not just temporarily through electoral politics, but permanently through all these questionable maneuvers is already underway. So let's take a look at the video and then I'll explain what I mean.

We're gonna win 80 to 100 seat pickup in the House of Representatives. We're gonna win the Senate. We're gonna win school boards. We're gonna win, we're gonna throw these source back DAs. We're going to win state legislatures. We're going to win all the secretaries of states that are running. We're going to win the governorships. We're going to win the state legislatures. This is going to be a massive blot like 1932. You're witnessing right now a political realignment like 1932.

And we will govern for 100 years after we went 100 siege. You saw it last night. Do you want to govern as a one party kind of total government? Do you want to destroy the Democratic Party? Well, I believe that we will destroy the Democratic Party as a national point. political institution, you'll have the squad and a progressive party, and you'll have the neoliberal neocons that the January 6th committee is. You'll have Liz Cheney on one side in Kinsinger, and you'll have Shifty Shift and Swallow on the other. A neoliberal neocon that represents Wall Street.

A populist uprising of Hispanics, African Americans, and working class people in this country is before us. So a lot to unpack there. What I found particularly scary was that Colonel of Truth, where he points to a political party that includes the Nancy Pelosi's and Adam Kinzinger's because we're already experiencing that, keep it real. But the other thing I wanted to draw attention to was he mentioned, he referenced a very specific time, a year in time, and it was 1932. So there are two possibilities. In reality, I think there's only one possibility given we're talking about Steve Bannon there. In 1932, Roosevelt won as president.

I don't think that's what he's referring to when he says political realignment. What else happened in 1932? Well, in the July 1932 German parliamentary elections, the Nazis won 37% of the vote. This was more votes than any other party received. In November of 1932, the Nazi share of the vote fell to 33%. However, this was still more votes than any other party won. And the Nazi party's electoral success made it difficult to govern Germany without them. Hitler and the Nazis refused to work with other political parties.

German president Paul von Hindenberg gave in and appointed Hitler as Chancellor of Germany on January 30th of 1933. And they plan to never give power back and have a thousand year rain. So the 100 year rain reference is an interesting one. Okay, but the story does require some nuance. So first on Charlie Kirk, that right there, that simple sentence was the description of the right wing in today's America. When he said, we're going to take power and we're not going to give it back. because they're worried because of the demographic shifts, not just racial ones, but ones based on age, that they're about to lose power.

Who's they? White right wingers, not left wingers, there's the obviously enormous percentage of the country is white and left wing. But white right wingers, they say, look, we've had power in this country forever. And we don't want to give it back. We don't want it. We're going to take it. And it doesn't matter if we get a minority.

of the vote, we're just gonna get into government and never give it back. So that that is a fair. Now the only curious part of that was the porn music in the background, right? As he's saying something super important, like, oh, we're gonna steal this country and never give it back to you, boop, boop, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, in the background. You're like, what's going on? Anyway. So now on to Bannon.

So it's true that also in 1932, Roosevelt ended the Republican reign in America. So from 1860 to 1932, the Republicans had won. And Roosevelt was the first Democrat to win the popular vote and the electoral vote in 80 years, right? But that's not overly similar to here because Democrats and Republicans have won back and forth, back and forth. But he certainly could be referring to Roosevelt. And he could be doing what a lot of Republicans do, which is I have plausible deniability. I could have meant Roosevelt. I kind of, like if you ask me about it, I'll say FDR.

Totally. Okay. So I'm not sure. But the one thing that he was definitely right about, and this is important and interesting. what you will not see in mainstream media, is that in reality, there are three different, and we talk about it here on the show all the time, there are three different factions in American politics. And I think, I don't know if it'll develop into three parties or branches within the parties, but one faction is the one we literally started. You guys, just Democrats. So that's

what he refers to as a squad and AOC, et cetera. Those are all just Democrats. That's the progressive wing, okay? So that's populist, it's real, it is incredibly popular. Based on polling of issues, I can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt that is by far the most popular wing of any party in America. Then there's the populist right wing guys who look fondly on 1932 and taking power and never giving it back. And so that's Bain and Charlie Kirk Trump, et cetera. And then there's the middle.

And that is neocons and neolibs. Those are corporate Democrats and corporate Republicans, especially on economic issues. They are inseparable. And you cannot tell them apart. They call themselves Republicans and Democrats, but they almost all vote the same way. They really are, in essence, one giant corporate party. And that's what we're attacking from the left to try to bring democracy back and actually represent the American voters. And that's what Steve Bannon is attacking from the right, hoping to end democracy and preserve power for the right kind of people.

Right. And look, as we speak at this very moment, there is realistically one dominant political party, regardless of whether or not, the politicians have a D or an R at the end of their name, right? The corporate wing of both parties are the, that is the dominant political power in this country. And it's been that way for decades now. Americans have experienced a significant decline in their quality of life since the 1970s as a result of that neoliberal policy that is in fact shared and favored by both corporate Democrats and corporate Republicans, again, put them together, that's the dominant political party in this country. And we're at a crossroads. Look at the similarities between where the

United States and really the world is right now, where developed countries are right now, versus where things were, you know, after the great, or during and after the Great Depression. We were at a crossroads. The reason why Roosevelt implemented his New Deal was, yes, because of pressure from labor, but also because, and he said this, he was very transparent and candid about it, we need to save capitalism, right? If he didn't intervene the way that he did with the New Deal, with serious social spending, well, fascism was rising. That was a huge threat. Calls to end capitalism were rising. He was concerned about that as well. And I'm concerned that we don't have an FDR-type leader to pull us out of the possibility of just devolving into a fascist state.

Yeah, and look, I think that another huge problem is that the so-called mainstream media is on one of those three sides, and it's super clear which side they're on, the corporate side. And so they will pretend that there's a real difference between Democrats and Republicans on a couple of social issues and identity, politics and culture wars there are, so they focus on those as both sides agree to rob us blind. What's the only thing that's passed in the last 20 years? Tax cut after tax cut after tax cut for the rich. And defense spending, increased defense spending over and over again, which benefits a small group of corporations that make products for the military.

And deregulation, which is, hey, buy any media company you like, buy the tech companies, get larger and larger and larger. do not protect your workers, do not protect the American citizens, et cetera. And corporate media never tells you that Republicans and Democrats agree on economic issues. They never tell you that they're robbing us blind and destroying your livelihoods. They are. We're going to do a story later in the show about how we are drowning in medical debt. Do you see that in mainstream media?

They never talk about it. And so they say, oh, you're going to get rid of your private insurance. As if private insurance is good. Why that's their advertisers, that so-called mainstream media are giant billion dollar corporations, helping other giant billion dollar corporations by pretending that their marketing is news. It isn't news, and it's destroying this country. The other thing I have to bring up is the fact that really Democrats are asleep at the wheel when it comes to the dismantling of our democratic process, story that barely gets air.

attention. In New Mexico, the county's Republican-controlled board of commissioners has voted unanimously to not certify, to not certify last week's primary elections. They're refusing to do it. And so the Supreme Court in the state, New Mexico Supreme Court, has stepped in and demanded that they certified the election by Friday of this week. One member of the board was actually present at the Capitol riots on January 6th. And so they, apparently have now voted on doing a hand count of the ballots instead of certifying it, even though they know what the election results are. They just apparently don't like the election results. But what's also interesting is that that's actually, that actually conflicts with state

and federal law. So it's right now as it stands, as we talk about this story in this very moment, it is unclear what the future holds, what they're going to do in New Mexico with this board of commissioners that's refusing to certify the election. Yeah. And part of the reason I brought up mainstream media is because they never make any distinctions. They go, oh, the fascist and progressives who want higher wages for and better health care. They're the same. Radicals, radical outsiders. Don't listen to them. Don't listen to them. Back in the corporate marketing. Okay. Now here, again, with New Mexico, well, you need nuance here. You want a recount? No problem. You want a hand count. No problem. I agree. You want

verification of the votes. No problem. I agree. A lot of right wing knuckleheads like we'll find old tweets of one. They're like, ah, you want to verify the vote too. Of course I do, you schmucks. And by the way, when corporate media says, oh, you don't have to verify any vote, are you nuts? Of course you have to verify the vote. No, just trust that a corporation made a deal with politicians and it's okay. No, let's verify. That is different than saying, oh yeah, we did a count. We did a recount. count, we did a hand count, they're not going to certify. I don't care. Yeah, the people I wanted to win, didn't win. So screw democracy. I'm not going to do it. Well, do you have any evidence? Because if you have evidence, I'll join you. If you have evidence saying the Dominion

switch any votes, I'll go nuts. I will definitely join that effort. I don't want any elections being stolen. You know, they're, you think they're going to give elections to progressives? No, they're not. That's not who corporations are going to steal for. But you don't have any evidence. You ever have any goddamn evidence. We're not the same. The right wing has lost their minds. They don't care about facts or reason. And the corporate wing has been lying to you for the last 40, 50 years straight.

All right, let's do one more story before we wrap up the first hour of the show. I want to talk about Biden's visit to Israel. In a surprising move, the United States has asked Israel to dial back its brutal treatment of Palestinians. In an unsurprising move, they're just asking for humane treatment toward Palestinians while Biden visits. After that, Israel can go back to brutalizing Palestinians. And I'm not joking, that is literally what. what has been communicated to the Israeli government. Let me make it clear by giving you the details.

Israeli officials said that Assistant Secretary of State, Barbara Leif, raised the Palestinian demands with Israeli foreign minister Yair Lepid, Israel Defense Minister Benny Gantz, Israel National Security Advisor, Yal, Hulata, and other senior officials. And what did she ask for? Well, she sent them a memo, a letter that made it clear that they, look, you guys need to stop brutalizing the Palestinians because it's going to make the visit, the Biden visit, really uncomfortable for him.

He really doesn't want that. Leif asked Israel to halt actions like home demolitions, evictions of Palestinians, and decisions on settlement building, as well as decrease Israeli military operations in the West Bank, until after Biden's visits, a visit, the official said. So these are Israeli officials who actually spoke to Axios about the communications that were made. And what's amazing is one Israeli official told Axios, quote, the Biden administration doesn't want us to create any crisis in the West Bank.

They want quiet and calm for Biden's visit. And so what was the response from Israeli officials? We'll try, but no can do. Gantz, Lapid, Hulata told Leif, they will do their best, but explained the domestic political complexities of halting such actions. In addition to what they called the operational needs of the Israeli military in order to stop attacks. Now remember the evictions of Palestinians in East Jerusalem has been internationally recognized as illegal, okay? The way they've been treating Palestinians, they've been attacking Palestinians internationally

with the exception of the United States recognized as illegal. To say that they need to brutalize Palestinians to stop the attacks is ridiculous, but more of the same kind of communication and messaging we've gotten from Israeli officials. Yeah, so here on this program, we actually do real news. So when the Israeli government says, we'll see what we can do, maybe, but probably not. That's saying, you're not the boss of me. I'm the boss of you. What are you going to do about it, Biden?

They know, with great certainty, you're not going to do a goddamn thing. You're just saying, please, can you not brutalize people while I'm there? because it's bad optics. Just brutalize them before and after. Like we've been letting you do this entire time. Facts. Facts. So look, is Israel an apartheid state? Obviously it is.

It meets the legal definition, the international legal definition. What do you think all those settlements are? They don't have rights. It's an open-air prison. They can't control their borders. They can't bring in medical supplies if they wanted to, if Israel doesn't allow them to. They're not a state.

You know, they make this absurd claim all the time. Oh, you know, the Palestinians don't want us to be a state. I got news for you, Israel, you already are one. There's not a goddamn thing Palestinians can do about it. But you literally will not allow them to be a state. How dare you do that insane, stupid talking point of, you know, they won't let us be a state. No, you literally won't let them be a state. I mean, it's just outrageous.

And here's their government going, oh, we reserve the right to do wildly illegal things at any time we please. Including during Biden's visit. Yes. Yeah, so I mean, there are so many egregious elements to the story, including the Biden administration's acknowledgement of brutality toward Palestinians. But the unwillingness to do anything about it, just the willingness to tweak the Israeli politicians a little bit when it comes to their visit, again, as you mentioned, due to optics,

right? And then just the brazen unwillingness to even do that, because again, there will be no consequences from the Biden administration. They will continue advocating for increased military funding for Israel, regardless of what it does. And I also want to just note, look, it wasn't too long ago that the Israeli defense forces killed a Palestinian American journalist, shot her in the head and killed her. Okay, so I mean, there's story after story, case after case. We cover it on the show. It's not like the Biden administration doesn't know about these things.

The Biden administration definitely does know and just wants to kind of hide it a little bit for his meeting, just so he looks good. And then Israel can go back to business as usual by brutalizing Palestinians. It's disgusting. Yeah, so look, rare credit here to a couple of mainstream media outlets. Both CNN and Associated Press proved that Shireen Abu Aklai was basically assassinated by the Israeli defense forces. And so there's no excuse for, there was no fighting nearby. They shot her in the head with a sniper. They shot her for being a journalist, a Palestinian journalist.

The fact that she's American, Israel said basically to America, what are you going to do about it, huh? And America said, I'm so sorry. How can you just kill any American you like? You're Israel. And it's not just Israel guys, the Saudis, too. They can kill any journalists they like. What's Biden going to go do? He's going to go kiss their ass.

And Muhammad bin Salman, the butcher of Riyadh, tells Biden, you're not the boss of me. I'm the boss of you. And Biden goes, look, I'm sorry. This is pathetic, man. And I'll give credit to Axios for this story where they broke the fact that Biden has asked this for optics reasons. But generally speaking, why do the, why does it? the Biden administration not mind telling everybody, just brazenly, publicly saying we're asking

permission of our boss, hey, can you please not brutalize people for a short period of time? Like, shouldn't they hide that? Isn't that deeply embarrassing? They don't hide it because generally speaking, who's going to create a problem for them? Which part of the press? Thank you Axios for reporting it. But is Fox News going to care about this? No, they like the, he's kissing Israel's ass. They love that. Kissing Saudi ass, a lot of their investors were Saudis. They love that. Right? And is MSNBC going to create a problem for Biden? No, if you told us on MSNBC, they'd fire you on the spot. What are you doing? Bow down to corporate Democrats. CNN, they don't care. None of these people care. They, my point is they're not gonna stay

on the story. That's why Biden administration is brazen about it. Yeah, we're pathetic. It doesn't matter, nobody's gonna find out. But again, thank you to Axios and the other two outlets for actually covering real news on the things that matter. All right, well, a third of Americans are struggling with. With medical debt, and we've got that story and more coming up in the second hour of the show. And I promise we will lighten things up a little bit. So stick around. We'll be right back.

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