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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. All right, welcome the young Turks, Jane Gujaranick is sparing with you guys. We've got a big show ahead today. We've got an even bigger show ahead for you tomorrow. Tomorrow is primary day in Indiana and Ohio. We'll be doing special election coverage. There's a couple of very important races in Ohio.

Starting point is 00:01:07 One on the Republican side too, between J.D. Mandel and J.D. Mandel. We'll get to that later in the show. And on the Democratic side, you got Morgan Harper versus Tim Ryan. That's an interesting primary progressive versus establishment. And then of course, Ohio 11, that's Cleveland, Nina Turner, progressive champion versus just Chantelle Brown, conservative corporate Democrat who has Trump donors, including the owner of the New England Patriots, oil donors, drug manufacturer donors, and every terrible donor you can imagine on her side. After the race is over, we'll talk a lot more about what people in Congress

Starting point is 00:01:52 did and didn't do. But for now, the most important thing, guys, is remember to vote. If you're in Cleveland, if you're in Ohio 11, if you're in Ohio, you've got to vote, you've got to get family and friends to vote. If you know anyone, I'm doing a hashtag find somebody in Cleveland. If you know anyone in Cleveland, find them, ask them for a favor, move their couch for them in return. But ask them for a favor, vote for Nina Turner. It will make all the difference in Congress. If Nina Turner wins, the degree to which I'm going to dance over other people is going to be immeasurable, immeasurable, okay. And I don't want any BS people coming in here and saying they helped when no one helped other than the Young Turks audience. So we're gonna find

Starting point is 00:02:38 out how big, how strong TYT nation is. If we win this race, it's Nina Turner and you guys against the world. Man, if we win this race, we're gonna, and by the way, they're so dumb this This race is so close. We can easily win it. I can't wait to lord it over our opponents. I can't wait. Make sure you're finding a way to, if you're in Cleveland, vote, find somebody in Cleveland. That's tomorrow and early voting, of course, has started already, so you can vote today. All right, Anna's got the rest of the news. All right, let's get right to our first story. Would you be okay if Donald Trump were president, if he created this disinformation board, or if it is in place and he wins again in 2024 that he's in charge of such a thing.

Starting point is 00:03:30 You're about to hear DHS secretary Alejandro Mojokas say a whole lot of nothing to a super important question. Watch. This working group that gathers together as gathers together best practices make sure that our work is coordinated consistent with those best practices that we're safeguarding the right of free speech. that we're safeguarding civil liberties, I think it's an extraordinarily important endeavor. Notice that Majorcas did not answer the specific question in regard to how he would feel if Donald Trump were essentially the leader over a government group that would be determining what is and is not disinformation. And this has to do with a story that's getting a lot more attention lately.

Starting point is 00:04:17 It has to do with the Department of Homeland Security and its new disinformation. board. There are a lot of questions about what the purpose of the disinformation board is. We've received some answers in regard to counteracting the false information or disinformation that human smugglers are telling migrants, which is persuading them to come to the border. But I would caution against just buying that argument and thinking that this is a good thing, because at the end of the day, we're talking about a government agency that does not have a good track record in regard to our civil liberties in regard to our privacy rights, essentially determining what is and is not considered disinformation from foreign actors, but I worry that

Starting point is 00:05:03 this would also have an impact on American citizens as well. Now before I get to the details about what this group would allegedly do, Jenk, I know you guys talked about this on the show recently. It was on a day when I wasn't here. And the conversation was mostly just kind of explaining what DHS has said the disinformation board is going to do, but do you have any concerns that this would have a negative impact on our civil liberties, especially if this is a group that's established during the Biden administration, and then later you get someone like Donald Trump getting reelected as president of the United States again. I do now. And what caused concern for me was actually this myarchist interview. So in the beginning it looked like they were

Starting point is 00:05:46 going to collect threat assessment on actual potential terrorists, right? People who might do violent acts in the United States. Well, given the huge degree of white supremacist terrorism in this country, I agree with that. And but it would have to be only about criminal matters. And as I said on the show on Friday, I'm not interested in pre-crime. I'm not interested in their political opinions, no matter how extreme they are. I'm interested in are they going to commit crime or are they not. Are they planning to?

Starting point is 00:06:17 Are they do they have an active plan to commit crime? But now that I've seen my orcas's answer, I withdraw any and all support from this total BS and ridiculous contraption, okay? Why? But number one, he says, oh no, we're not going to collect any information. We're just going to do studies of what other countries have done and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, well, okay, there's two possible results.

Starting point is 00:06:46 of that. Number one, if you're just going to collect studies of what other people have done, why do you need a whole division for it? Then it's totally useless. And I have no interest in it. Couldn't other divisions do that anyway? Isn't that a normal part of your research process in each division? What a useless, useless thing you've set up? Or you're lying and you're going to collect intelligence, but now you're not telling us and you're covering it up. Okay, well, that makes me wonder what kind of intelligence you are going together, so I'm out. Either way. And the problem that I have is the vague answers that he gave to the pretty good questions that Bash was asking during the CNN interview.

Starting point is 00:07:27 I was a little concerned from the very beginning once we learned a little bit about this disinformation board, because again, we're talking about officials within the Department of Homeland Security serving as the arbiters of what is and is not considered disinformation. And how could you ever argue that that wouldn't become politicized? Even if you totally trust the Biden administration, which I would urge you not to trust any administration, you should always be skeptical of what they're doing. You should consider what the future holds under the leadership of a Republican president. You should also consider what the Republican Party has turned into during the Trump era and how it's further devolved. And when we talk about freedom of speech, civil liberties, on a surface level, conservatives pretend like they care about those things. But I have no doubt that if you essentially expand

Starting point is 00:08:18 the powers for the federal government and allow them to be the arbiters of what is and is not disinformation, that could lead to some pretty serious problems. If you have a right wing president in charge, it could be politicized and used against obviously the left wing. So I want to give you another portion of the interview featuring Mayorkas, and I want you to pay close attention to his wording because, again, I feel that he says a whole lot of nothing here. Let's watch. What will it do? So what it does is it works to ensure that the way in which we address threats, the connectivity between threats and acts of violence are addressed without infringing on free speech, protecting. civil rights and civil liberties, the right of privacy. And the board, this working group,

Starting point is 00:09:10 internal working group will draw from best practices and communicate those best practices to the operators, because the board does not have operational authority. Will American citizens be monitored? No. Guarantee that. So what we do, we in the Department of Homeland Security don't monitor American citizens. You don't, but will this board change that? No, no, no, the board not have any operational authority or capability. Bash missed an opportunity there because she took what myorkas said about the DHS at face value. That was a huge mistake because I mean as recently as this year the Brennan Center has released reports detailing how the Department of Homeland Security has in

Starting point is 00:09:58 fact monitored American citizens. I actually want to direct you to a Brennan report that came out last year. And it talked about how really the surveillance powers for the Department of Homeland Security were expanded under the leadership of the Obama administration. And Biden has actually doubled down on that. Let me give you the details. The Obama administration began to entrench countering violent extremism initiatives. Programs in this mold recruited community leaders, social workers, teachers, and public health providers purportedly to help identify people who were at risk of becoming violent extremists. Instead, these efforts broadly painted members of American, Arab, and Muslim communities as terrorists and everyday political activism

Starting point is 00:10:48 and religious practices as signs of violence. While President Biden promised during the election that he would scrap such programs, his administration has instead doubled down on this basic approach, funding efforts that direct the public to report supposedly suspicious activity or behaviors, including vaguely defined indicators such as having a grievance being socially isolated or behaving unusually to the police or to threat assessment teams involving law enforcement. And this is absolutely being done under the Department of Homeland Security toward American citizens, not just foreigners. These programs, which are run out of D.H. is new Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships,

Starting point is 00:11:35 CP3, as it's referred to, are essentially a repackaging of the repudiated CVE programs that relied on unscientific criteria to flag potential threats. I have more details about this, but the point that I'm trying to make here is Mayorkas was not, either he doesn't know what goes on within the department that he is the leader of, which I'm not buying, or he's just straight up lying on cable news, which is not a far-fetched idea. And again, we have certain constitutional rights. And we willy-nilly gave up so many of our civil liberties after 9-11. I would just caution anyone who is concerned about disinformation coming from foreign governments or from human smugglers to really consider how oftentimes

Starting point is 00:12:22 when these government agencies are formed, whenever these governmental groups are formed, there's always that cover story, right? There's always that, oh no, this is actually a good thing because it's meant to keep you safe. This is actually a good thing. It's meant to keep migrants safe. But it's very easy for power to be abused once you expand the surveillance powers and honestly the determination that the government might have in regard to what is and is not considered disinformation. So first of all, his answers were all mealy mouth BS. Every one of them. Oh, we're not doing anything at all. We're just gathering information that's non-information. This is something that other departments are doing and blah, blah, blah.

Starting point is 00:13:09 Then why did you set it up? So it has no operational authority. He said that like three times in the interview, maybe four. Okay, then why did you set it up? What is it? Like what's the point of it if it's totally impudent? Oh, okay, we're just going to look around at other reports, and report the reports. Okay, now problem number two, he's lying. Department of Online Security, as Anna just pointed out to you, has often looked into investigated Americans. It's largely never been a problem because they largely investigated people on the left and Muslims. So the right wing loved that, Democrats love that, the mainstream media love that, never raised an issue, no one, right? The minute you say, hey, maybe we should look into the actual

Starting point is 00:13:55 terrorists right now, the overwhelming majority of which domestic terrorists in America are white supremacists. All of a sudden the right wing goes, oh my God, those are our brothers. Our brothers in arms. How could you do this? And then immediately the cowards run away. Then shut the goddamn thing down. Because what's going to happen is you're going to do nothing with it. But since they called it the Ministry of Truth and pretended you were collecting information about Americans, or maybe you are and you're hiding it. But either if you're doing that, don't if you're lying about it. Or you're not doing any of that, it's useless. But then Trump's going to come into office and go, oh yeah, the Democrats, we're collecting information. Now we're going to

Starting point is 00:14:34 collect information on everyone on the left, every black person, every Muslim person, every person that isn't Christian, white, fascist. We're collecting information on, and we're immediately going to use it. It's such a classic weak, weak Democratic move. It's the Democratic Party and its leaders are hopeless. That interview there was a picture of weakness and cowardice. Absolutely. And again, you know, always be a little suspicious, at least a little suspicious, about any kind of expansive effort to provide more power to a government agency, especially a government agency, again, that does not have a good track record in regard to its surveillance powers and how it's abused it in surveilling American citizens. So I am concerned about this. And when the right wing fearmongers about it, I think that they do have a point. Of course, they fearmonger about it while the Biden administration is in charge. But you know that they'll be thinking differently once you have a Republican president in charge. And we don't want that. We don't want to have a politicized group, make determinations about what is and is not acceptable speech. All right. Let's move on to some other. Yes. Before we move on to other news, I have breaking news.

Starting point is 00:15:53 So Congressional Progressive Caucus had not endorsed Nina Turner, progressive champion, co-chair, Bernie Sanders campaign. And then they put out a statement saying that it was a unanimous vote. that everybody voted for Chantelle Brown's endorsement in the Progressive Caucus. It seemed like an absurd, outrageous thing to say, we of course demanded transparency and wanted to know the vote. Well, guess what just happened? Breaking news, AOC is just endorsed Nina Turner. Oh, wow. So apparently not unanimous, apparently not unanimous. Okay, so Mark Pocan, Permanelahyapal have a lot of explaining to do. Did they lie? Why did they lie? What was the actual vote? Why are they lying to me is the most important part? But putting that aside, hey, AOC,

Starting point is 00:17:03 thank you, okay. Look, I wish all of them had done it, and I wish all of them had done it earlier. But a little bit of unity here at the end, as people begin to see, oh, wait a minute, actually Nina Turner might win. And all of a sudden, right? But hey, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the first progressive in Congress to back Nina Turner the day before her election. So far, no one else has. And that is amazing. But that is the breaking news and good news. AOC now on board and endorsing Nina Turner in Ohio 11. Let's go vote. Obviously, I'm happy that AOC has come out to endorsing a Turner. The primary race in Ohio is tomorrow.

Starting point is 00:17:52 So, you know, not to be too critical, but I would have liked to see that endorsement much earlier. And I would have liked to see more endorsements from, you know, certainly the more left-wing members of the progressive caucus. We know that there are all sorts of moderates within that caucus who are not at all progressives. But when you think about the Ilhan Omar's, the Rashida Talibes, you know, people who have really taken the mantle of progressivism in terms of the way they've branded themselves, what are they waiting for? Why didn't they come out and endorse her? Either today or honestly, I would have preferred much earlier. But I'm glad that this has happened because at least it's made it clear that the leadership in the Progressive Caucus is not being honest with the American people. I want to know why as well. So we'll see how it all plays out. But man, can I just say running for Congress on its own without all the drama is an incredibly difficult thing to do? I mean, seeing what you had to go through, Jank was pretty disheartening, discouraging, demoralizing. But to see your friends either abandon you or not have your back is so incredibly painful.

Starting point is 00:19:06 And I hate that Nina Turner, someone who doesn't deserve it at all, has gone through this, has gone through it so publicly. Obviously, she has our support. We've defended her, we've done all sorts of coverage about what her platform is really about, something that you won't see on other platforms, on another news organizations. It's just, it's really heartbreaking because she really is a fighter, but that's how fighters get treated in the system. They get abandoned, they get smeared, because they actually want to fight for real change. Yeah, you know, this is not self-aggrandizing.

Starting point is 00:19:39 At this point, it is an absolute fact, the only people who don't abandon progressives, especially fighters and leaders of progressives, is TYT Nation, young Turks audience. And so when no one else showed up for Nina, we showed up from day one, all of you guys. Look, us without you is nothing. Either you give the five bucks, ten bucks, twenty seven bucks, or you don't. By the way, in this race we're maxed out. You don't have to give any more money. So the race is tomorrow. We bought as many ads as we could possibly buy. And by the way, we reached everybody in Cleveland three times over. So all those establishment people, so comfortable thinking they've got it locked up, I can't wait till tomorrow. I don't know

Starting point is 00:20:21 what's going to happen. They might have just overwhelmed us with the money that they spent on television. I don't know, okay. But I do know we gave it everything we had, And I do know that they were not expecting us. And if Nina wins, TYT is going to send its regards. And so I can't wait till tomorrow night. Find somebody in Cleveland, make sure they're voting, make sure their whole family's voting, everybody's voting. I expect a very close election, and we can make the difference here. And so look, I'll take it. Thank you to AOC. Always give credit where credit is due. And if the others say, hey, there was too much pressure on me, well, that's not exactly a profile

Starting point is 00:21:04 and courage, okay? And so we have long memories. So Rebellion Pact just spent $200,000 on the Nina Turner race. Will we spend that in the race for incumbents who claim to be progressive, but who weren't there for their allies? No, we will not, okay. But if you're a true progressive and you're a fighter and a leader, well, Rebellion Pack and TYT Nation has your back. So I know the establishment has a lot more weapons. I'll take the Young Turks audience over all of them combined, and tomorrow we might find out. All right, we're going to take a brief break. When we come back, man, the fallout from Governor Greg Abbott's decision to do extra

Starting point is 00:21:48 checks of commercial vehicles crossing the border is terrible. Looks like his state might be losing business for the long haul. We've got those details and more coming right up. Hey, back on TYKUGRA, Anna Kaspareen. Hey, back on TYT, Jake Ugar, Anna Kasparian, Jacqueline Carpenter, Lindsey Rob, Negro Marina, Michael Adonte, Nick Levine, all these people just joined by hitting the join button below on YouTube. You know why? Because TYT is too strong. Guys, tomorrow, if Nina Turner wins in Cleveland, that means we're stronger than the entire establishment

Starting point is 00:22:38 combined. Because they all came out and they ran into us. Can't wait, can't wait. Go find somebody who voted in Cleveland, Nina Turner. Go, Anna. Texas Governor, Abbott might as well be campaigning in New Mexico because some of his biggest fans reside in that state. And that's because of the fact that he made the terrible decision to do extra security checks of commercial vehicles traveling across Texas's southern border. And that has caused serious delays for commerce. And as a result, now the route has been changed through New Mexico rather than Texas. And in fact, that plan might be expanded in the near future. So again, this has to do with Abbott's decision to do needless extra security checks. And it was all part of

Starting point is 00:23:34 his political ploy, his political strategy to garner more support for his gubernatorial race. And it's not playing out so well. In fact, the state already lost $4.2 billion as a result. And things are about to get even worse. So trucks were rerouted. through Santa Teresa when Abbott's inspections snarled commercial traffic at Texas border crossings. And now Mexico has decided to move a long plan trade railway connection worth billions of dollars from Texas to the new Mexico crossing. So Mexican economy minister Tatiana Cluthier said a planned rail and ports expansion known as the T-MEC corridor to connect the Pacific port of Mazatlan and the Canadian city of Winnipeg would not use Texas, but instead the rail line would be rooted

Starting point is 00:24:26 along the far edge of West Texas up through Santa Teresa, New Mexico, about 20 miles west of downtown El Paso. And listen, the minister for the economy in Mexico explains exactly why they're making this decision. We are now not going to use Texas. We can leave all, we can't leave all the eggs in one basket and be hostages to someone who wants to use trade as a political tool. And as we've reported before, this ploy by Abbott was so disastrous that he had to end it. He put a stop to it after just 10 days. The slow pace of inspections and protests led by truckers upset at the delays led to routine backups of five to 12 hours at commercial border crossings. Some truckers interviewed by the Dallas Morning News said they had to wait three days just to cross.

Starting point is 00:25:22 And if you're transporting, you know, perishable items, you're not going to make it. Everything's going to rot in the back of the truck as you're trying to cross the border and get to where you're supposed to go. And so earlier reports indicated, as I mentioned, that Texas lost about $4.2 billion. dollars. That's the economic damage that was caused by just 10 days of this terrible policy. Abbott said he will be transferring another 500 million from other Texas agencies to finance his broader state border initiative, Operation Lone Star, which by the way is already costing Texans more than $2 billion a year. And look, the reason why this strategy by Abbott was completely unnecessary is because the federal government does the checking. Like they, they

Starting point is 00:26:11 do the security measures to ensure that people aren't smuggling humans or smuggling drugs into the country. In fact, it's actually pretty impressive how much the Biden administration has stepped up to the plate in regard to catching smugglers of all sorts of terrible drugs, like fentanyl and meth. We'll get to that later in the show. But Jank, what are your thoughts? You're muted, Jank. Sorry guys. So we get into the usual territory. here. One is Republicans doing senseless things for marketing gimmicks. So that's exactly what this was. It made no sense in the first place. And it cost the people of Texas a ton of money. And now long term might cost them a devastating amount, right? And Republican governors and

Starting point is 00:27:01 politicians do this all the time. The problem is the second component, which is the Democrats. The way you stop nonsense like this and bleeding out the taxpayers for your political gimmicks is the other side kicks your ass. So Beto O'Rourke is running against Greg Abbott in Texas. So I'm sure Beto O'Rourke is on this and I'm sure he's lightly criticizing him, right? But Beto, I can't hear you. I don't know if you understand how politics and media works this day and age. you have to go for the jugular so we can hear you. You have to say things like Greg Abbott is a piece of crap that costs every taxpayer

Starting point is 00:27:44 in Texas, you know, and name a number, whatever the correct number is. You know, $170,000, I don't know what the numbers, but find out the number. Be real, be factual, and then say, I can't believe he stole that from you so that you can try to run for president, okay, it's cowardly, it's terrible, it's despicable, it's evil, okay? And just lay into him, lay into him so that people can hear, so that they can hear. But my guess is that Beto will whisper as he's been taught on NPR. It's not a right thing to do. It's a little bit problematic, okay?

Starting point is 00:28:21 Are you going to kick his ass or are you just going to sit there? So there's no way Abbott should be reelected. He's cost not just the money of taxpayer citizens. He's cost the lives of taxpayer, of Texas citizens, I should say. And so the way that he had people freeze to death so his donors could make more money. It's disgusting. Is our Democrats ever going to take action and actually fight Republicans? The answer is likely no.

Starting point is 00:28:46 So Abbott will probably get away with this too. Yeah, I mean, look, to your point, the only reason why we even found out about this is because the White House put out just like a gentle press release asking Abbott to stop because it's actually causing more supply chain. shoes and at a time when Americans are dealing with inflation, this ain't helping. But it was just that, it was just a press release. And what's also incredible, Jank, is when you look at the smuggling of fentanyl, for instance, I had no idea that the Biden administration was able to seize 11 times more fentanyl at the border compared to Donald Trump in 2020. How are you not bragging about that. Yeah, no, look, I hate to beat a dead horse or a dead donkey in this case, but Biden, Democrats, even on rare things you're good at, we can't hear you. How dumb are you?

Starting point is 00:29:47 Politics is about marketing. If people don't know you did something, then they're not going to vote for you. Hey, inflation is out of control. You know why? Because the economy is booming and unemployment is at a record low. Did you ever hear that? No, because the idiot Biden never said it. He whispered it. Everybody on his team whispered it. They're so stupid, okay? So now on this, you see's 11 times the fentanyl of Trump. If I was in charge, you know what I do? I'd do call a press conference. And I would show like Katie Porter does with like jelly beans and M&Ms or whatever. And I'd have like 11 times more than Trump busted. And I'd go, I don't understand why Donald Trump was such a loser. Why did he let all these drugs into the country? The minute we got in charge,

Starting point is 00:30:32 we caught all the drugs. It shows that Trump was letting all the drugs in. And then everybody's discussing why Trump was so bad at catching drugs. Instead, J.D. Vances, we'll show you later in the show, is blaming it all on Biden. Because Biden whispered it. Losers, total losers. Well, speaking of total losers, let's now move on to the so-called free speech warriors, people like Donald Trump, who of course have no respect for our First Amendment rights and would rather shoot demonstrators who he disagrees with. Trump wanted to literally shoot demonstrators in the summer of 2020 as they gathered close to the White House. Now, we know about that because Trump's former defense secretary, Mark Esper, is coming out with a memoir,

Starting point is 00:31:43 so he decided to sit on this information until he could publish his book. But nonetheless, Here's what we know based on this upcoming memoir, which Axios received, you know, early review of. So former Defense Secretary Esper charges in this memoir that former President Trump said when demonstrators were filling the streets around the White House following the death of George Floyd, can't you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something. Now, of course, Americans have First Amendment protections. They are allowed to assemble. They are allowed to demonstrate. That is what was happening at that time.

Starting point is 00:32:24 This is in June of 2020. But Trump didn't like their protests. Trump didn't like that the demonstrators were partly protesting him. So his big question was, can't we just shoot them? Now, I would love to hear from all of these podcasters on the right who have taken the mantle as free speech warriors, and all they focus on is like a small group of left wing people on Twitter, nagging them about their language. But fact of the matter is when it comes to actual free speech violations in this country or government officials who want to violate your free speech rights, a lot of them are on the right. On a state level, we have legislation in some cases that's been proposed, in other cases that actually passed state legislatures that would allow for drivers to run protesters over

Starting point is 00:33:16 if they're blocking the road. You have so many different examples of right wingers banning books they don't like from public libraries, even if those books have not been assigned to students. But those are stories that are completely ignored. I mean, I highly doubt Rogan's going to going to be talking about Trump wanting to shoot demonstrators on his podcast, but he will talk about how his feelings got hurt over a few people on Twitter nagging him about using the proper pronouns. Yeah, so there's two elements to the story. First, the heart of the story, holy cow, a president of the United States suggested that we murder protesters. We just killed them. Now, when they, he said, why don't we just shoot them? And he said that repeatedly,

Starting point is 00:34:07 apparently, according to the sources. And by the way, this is not just Esper. This is very important. It got vetted by dozens of people on the Pentagon, including people that were in the room when Trump was suggesting it. And none of them disputed it. It went to print, and it got printed because it is true. So once there was pushback and they said, Mr. President, It's not really a good idea to shoot protesters in America. We had they have freedom of speech and they could ask for address of their grievances. That's also in the first amendment. That's exactly what they're doing. He said, all, fine, why don't we shoot them in the leg?

Starting point is 00:34:47 First of all, if you shoot people in the leg, a lot of them will die. Second of all, you're shooting them in the leg. Okay, it's mental. It's insane. And then and then people want me to have a conversation about whether you should vote for Trump. Oh, you don't like Biden. Biden didn't do enough. Right now I have a healthy loathing of Joe Biden. But I'm not having a conversation about voting for Donald Trump when his instinct was, let's murder everyone protesting me. No, no, when he discussed imposing martial law and having military rule in America and ending democracy. No, this is not, he said, she said, This is not 50, 50, it's not even 90 to 10.

Starting point is 00:35:30 Under no circumstances, can that monster dictator want to be, ever be president or have any office again? But then the second portion is what Anna talked about. All you right wingers, God, just say it. And now a lot of them have started saying it. There's this thing called a new right. And they're just saying, yeah, we want a dictator. We want a king.

Starting point is 00:35:51 Because it's the hypocrisy is too much, even for them. They know they don't want freedom of speech. They know they don't want freedom. The minute anybody protests them, they're like, well, maybe we should murder them. You don't believe in freedom of speech. So it doesn't name them all, it doesn't matter. Crowder, Tim Pool, Joe Roken, you name them, okay? It doesn't matter.

Starting point is 00:36:14 They're all cowards. They're all hypocrites. They will never call out their beloved Donald Trump because their fans will get mad at him. Oh, no, you cannot criticize the beloved orange dictator. Okay, then you're not for freedom of speech. You're not. So just shut up already, okay? I don't mean shut up in the government sense.

Starting point is 00:36:37 You could blabber all you want, but you're full of crap, and now you know it too. You never believed in freedom of speech. No one who believes in freedom of speech would ever support Donald Trump on this story alone. And to your point, Jank, I want to get to just how many four star generals knew. about this and might have had a problem with what Trump was demanding they do, but didn't say anything about it publicly. Specifically, Trump wanting to shoot demonstrators. So let's go to graphic four here. As part of the clearance process, the book was reviewed in whole or in part by nearly three dozen four star generals, senior civilians, and some cabinet members. Some of them had

Starting point is 00:37:22 witnessed what Esper witnessed. And again, we didn't know about Trump wanting to shoot demonstrators until today because Axios was able to review Esper's book. And Esper wasn't public about it until he was ready to publish his memoir. So there's of course that element to it as well, where the profit motive behind all of this allows for these government officials to withhold incredibly important information from the American people. This happened in June of 2020. You don't think that it was relevant for American voters to know what Trump was demanding that people do in response to protesters for the 2020 election. Now obviously Biden was elected anyway, but I would have liked to know this information. I'm sure a lot of voters would have liked

Starting point is 00:38:12 to know this information ahead of time. And despite Esper's best attempts at placating Trump, serving as his lap dog, it's never good enough for Trump because they had a falling out anyway. And it was after Esper spoke out against Trump wanting to use the Insurrection Act in response to the protesters. He did so in a press conference. This was the moment that Trump decided to turn his back on Esper because Esper dared to speak out against something that Trump wanted to do. Let's take a look at the video. The option to use active duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. We are not in one of those situations now. I do not support invoking the Insurrection Act.

Starting point is 00:39:03 And understand the Insurrection Act would allow for the military to use its force against American citizens, people who are protesting. That is what Trump wanted. Yeah, it's so easy to prove the right wing as hypocrites. So right now, I guarantee you that they see that story. They're like, oh, what's a big deal, man? I'm glad to Trump fired Esper. He should have used the insurrection act, okay? That's what good, strong presidents do.

Starting point is 00:39:30 Okay, great. So you want Biden to use the insurrection act and start rounding up all right wing protesters? The truckers? Oh, no, no, no, that's government tyranny. That's government tyranny. We can't do that. Well, which one is it, God damn it? Is do you want the Insurrection Act or don't you want it?

Starting point is 00:39:45 How about martial law that Trump wanted to do that? Every one of his advisors, and to be fair to them, we give you the actual news. Every one of his advisors said they'd quit if he declared military rule in America. Okay, but Trump wanted it. So is military rule good or bad? Because if it's good, can Joe Biden use military rule? Look, of course, the right wing has the comfort of knowing that Democrats are the weakest people on earth and that they actually believe in democracy. They know the Democrats are never going to declare martial law.

Starting point is 00:40:15 They're never going to use the Insurrection Act. They're never going to shoot right wing protesters. They know that, right? That's why they can say in comfort, yeah, Trump should do that to the left wing, but no one should ever do it to us, right? And so finally, again, I ask you, but what if it isn't Biden? Right wing, are you sure you want to set this precedent that the president can order the shooting of protesters? Be careful with the precedent that you set.

Starting point is 00:40:40 Now, of course, they will say it's great when Republicans do it, and it's monstrous and tyranny when the Democrats do it. Okay, well, at least you know, the right wing as usual, liars, hypocrites, and monsters. These are facts. These are facts. Otherwise, say that Trump was wrong. You won't because you can't, you just want to follow a dictator so, so bad. You're so weak that you're like, oh, Please shelter me, George dictator. The right wing, disgust me. All right, we got to take a break. When we come back, we'll talk a little bit about law and disorder, because you have the latest slate of Trump endorsed candidates coming out and just referring to President Joe Biden as illegitimate.

Starting point is 00:41:30 We'll give you the latest example right after the break. All right, back on TYT, Jank and Anna with you guys, Anna's got more news. All right, let's get right to our next story. I am a big supporter of President Trump, obviously I loved him as a president. His policies worked. America First is the only way out of the mess we're in. And he loves Arizona, he loves our campaign because he knows it's grassroots. grassroots, and we have a big movement afoot in Arizona. So last week, he said, I love Carrie, let's endorse her again. I'm not going to take orders, though, from an illegitimate president

Starting point is 00:42:21 like Joe Biden. Arizona is going to do things the Arizona way. The person you just heard from is Arizona's Trump endorsed right wing gubernatorial candidate. Her name is Carrie Lake. And if you notice that graphic that Fox business was showing, she appears to be the Republican frontrunner in the primary. Now, notably, she called President Biden illegitimate, essentially regurgitating propaganda from Trump regarding the outcome of the 2020 election. Now, should we be concerned? I would argue, yes, we should be concerned because recent polling indicates that an unfortunate majority in the Republican Party believes all sorts of unfounded claims and conspiracy theories.

Starting point is 00:43:06 And she appears to just be preaching to the choir, essentially telling the voters what they want to hear. And she also put out a list of all the terrible things she would do as governor of Arizona, which we can get to in just a minute. But Jank, you drew attention to this story for us and I can understand why. Yeah, look, chaos is here. If she wins, of that race, we're going to have a United States governor say, I'm not listening to the president, and I'm not listening to the federal government. What is that? I mean, it's made, I guess it's a

Starting point is 00:43:45 former secession. So then are the blue state governor is going to say then if Trump or another Republican wins, okay, we're now not following the orders of the federal government. How many more red states will say they're not following Biden anymore? This is total madness. This is the breakdown of the union. And this is what the Republicans wanted. This is what they pushed for. They've been trying to kill our democracy the whole time. And you can't get through to them. They think, oh, yeah, if the government doesn't work together, that's great. If the states don't listen to the federal government and there's anarchy, that's great if it's a Democratic president. If it's a Republican president, then those governors are traitors and they should be hung up and et cetera, et cetera.

Starting point is 00:44:31 It's just, and now, literally a majority, 52% of Republicans believe that Democrats are running a child sex trafficking ring, that Democratic leadership is pedophiles. 52%. Guys, polls are accurate. I'm neck deep in politics. I know everybody, oh, bitch is about polls. And sometimes a little polls is a little off here or there. Generally, they are definitely accurate. That is a majority of Republicans. And by the way, 30% of independence, 30% of independents think that Democrats are running a child sex trafficking ring. Combined, that's about 100 million Americans who believe that the Democrats are doing a ring of pedophilia. And that that's their objective. Now you got people who are leading in their race saying, oh, if I get elected, I'm not even

Starting point is 00:45:31 going to listen to the Democratic president. This is total and utter chaos, anarchy. It's ripping this country apart. And the Democrats can't even freaking counter as the Republicans are in roughshod destroying this country. I'm curious how this would actually play out, right? And look, you look at how well she's performing in the Republican primary. And it, I mean, Arizona still is a right wing state for the most part. There's a good

Starting point is 00:46:05 chance that she could become the next governor of Arizona. And I'm just curious how it would really play out, right? Because it's one thing to use that kind of rhetoric. It's another thing to actually be elected into office and then try to carry out what she's suggesting here, which is completely ignoring laws that are, you know, or directives, executive orders by the federal government. To play devil's advocate, though, I'm curious what you think about this, Jank. You know, when Trump got elected, of course he started implementing all sorts of anti-immigration policies. Almost immediately, you have the Department of Homeland Security and border patrol agents, ICE, rounding up people in communities that are known to have a disproportionate amount of

Starting point is 00:46:51 migrants living in them. I remember that happened in like Van Nuys, California in the beginning of the Trump administration. And states like California started to implement, you know, the sanctuary state laws to protect the migrants against the federal government. Would you say that the left has a similar approach to what Carrie Lake was suggesting here with Joe Biden? Oh, with the sanctuary cities? Mm-hmm. No, I don't think so. I think that those, cities are basically saying, look, we're going to enforce our local laws.

Starting point is 00:47:32 I mean, if there's a federal law that they are violating, then I think that's a different situation. But basically, my understanding of sanctuary cities is saying that they're going to enforce their local laws. So if it's indirect contradiction of a federal law where the federal government says, give me those immigrants. And the local municipality says, no, I will not. I will ignore your federal order, then that's a different case. But I don't believe that's what's happening with sanctuary cities. So I want to get to what Carrie Lake said about her platform and what she's planning on doing once she gets elected because auditing the election is part of it.

Starting point is 00:48:15 Let's take a quick look. Obviously, we need to take care of what's happening on the border. Secure the border, stop the drugs from coming in. And no Democrat, no independent, no Republican wants their kids to get their hands on this deadly fentanyl. We have a priority with our election. When I get elected, we are going to go through that forensic audit. We're going to fix every problem we have with our elections down here and make sure they are secure and honest for our future generations in every election going forward. We're going to make sure that we fund the students in Arizona, not the institution so that parents have control of what school they send their kids to.

Starting point is 00:48:52 and that our kids are prepared for all the opportunities. We would like to lower taxes as well. We're gonna start with the sales tax because that affects every single Arizona. And especially under Joe Biden's inflation, we need to make things more affordable any way we can. So she wants to waste more of the state's resources in auditing the 2020 election. If the people of Arizona are into that, have at it, it is a waste of resources. I mean, how many times are you gonna audit the 2020 election? Trump lost. I know it's a tough pill to swallow. But I mean, again, how many times do we have to go

Starting point is 00:49:30 through this? How many court battles did the Trump campaign need to lose? Because they had zero evidence of widespread voter fraud for his supporters to finally accept the cold, hard truth. He lost the election. If he wasn't such a moron in how he responded to COVID, there was a good chance that he could have won. When it comes to these battleground states, it was actually a pretty close race. But he totally, totally bumble, like he just ruined his chances of getting reelected. They refused to accept that. So you want to waste the resources, great, have at it. But the other thing is, look, you guys, pay close attention because the next thing that Republicans, in my opinion, will succeed in doing is eliminating public schools. They're on the war path. They're already

Starting point is 00:50:20 succeeding and funneling money out of the public education system and into private institutions. She was very clear about how she intends on doing that. And it's going to be a disaster for families who cannot afford to send their children to private schools. It might start off with a voucher program and people might get hoodwinked into thinking, this is great, the government's giving me money so I can afford private education for my kids. But as soon as public education is no longer an option for people? You think the state governments, you think right wing governments are gonna shell out money to help poor families send their kids to private schools? Please, come on. Look, I'm not even gonna say it out loud, but there's a couple of things that

Starting point is 00:51:07 a Republican candidate or president could do that would guarantee landslides for them. And if they just believe it they don't even have to believe it. They just have to do it. A tiny bit of economic populism, they would route the Democrats because the Democrats are so corporate, so elitist, such liars, so weak. And then they would get their way. They would get their dictatorship. They would get all these things. But there's no talking to right wingers, Anna. So in Arizona, they did an audit led by a ludicrous right wing group. And even they came back and they're like, oh crap, it turns out Biden won and pretty easily in Arizona. I mean, you want to audit the audit of the audit?

Starting point is 00:51:57 What do you want? There's no evidence. But no, they're maniacs. They've been brainwashed by right wing media into being mindless zombies. So we're like, oh, Trump on, I like dictators. Trump won. How am I going to talk to the guy? The guy doesn't even understand facts for logic. So there's 100 million zombies in the country now. We're like, oh, Tucker Carlson told me this.

Starting point is 00:52:22 Okay, all right, I don't know. This is this is going to end very, very poorly. And by the way, on sanctuary cities, it's simply the great majority of the time, the police saying, no, we're not going to ask for. documents or immigration status when we're investigating crime because we're afraid that that would discourage people from reporting crimes like murder, rape, robberies, etc. And that's what a sanctuary city means. It sounds super like scary to the right way. It's oh my God, they're hiding the immigrants, et cetera. No, they're actually largely trying to solve crime. Right. It's the refusal

Starting point is 00:52:59 of local law enforcement to cooperate with the federal government's requests pertaining to undocumented immigrant. So, which look, I haven't been critical of that because I think that they should be able to do that, especially when they have a good reason in regard to making the environment safer for people to feel free to come and report actual crimes that they're facing. But, you know, I just feel like all the nonsense that we heard from Biden, we were right from the very beginning. Oh, we're going to unify the country. We're going to unify the country. There's no unifying with this. Okay, platitudes, concessions to people on the far right is not going to unify the country.

Starting point is 00:53:44 There's no way to placate them. There's no way that they ever want to work together. The only thing you can do is focus on what unites voters. And there's actually a lot of agreement among voters on bread and butter issues, which Biden could have focused on, hyper focused on, in order to bring voters together. together in support of candidates who actually make sense, who actually serve their best interests. But as you mentioned, Jank, all we saw was weakness from the Democratic Party. And the chickens will come home to roost both for the midterms. And I suspect even for the

Starting point is 00:54:19 2024 election. And it's a damn shame because it empowers crazy people like Carrie Lake. And I think it's likely that someone like her could be the next governor of Arizona. It's absolutely terrifying. Well, we got to take a break. That does it for our first hour. When we come back, Donald Trump had a little bit of a flub where he ended up endorsing an opponent to the real candidate that he endorsed in a Senate race. We've got that story and more coming right up. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks.

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