The Young Turks - Fake Nancy Pelosi Videos Pushed By Trump

Episode Date: May 27, 2019

Trump team caught circulating weird, fake Nancy Pelosi videos. Cenk Uygur, John Iadarola, and Nando Vila discuss on The Young Turks.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Drop it. All right, power, power panel, of course, Jane Hugo, John Otorola, Nando Vela. So fun for everybody, we've got lots of doctored videos for you guys. Yes. So that's going to be fun. If you're wondering, when do I think of how to say drop it? Do I think about it all week, all day? No, about a second before we do it.

Okay, so I'm so psyched about this rally on June 8th that I'm doing in Iowa, now that we're doing, J.D. Shultz is going to join us, almost beat Steve King last time, we'll beat him this time. Ojetta is coming. Allison Hartson is coming. You all are coming. Yesterday, we got a comment from one of you guys coming from Boga, Colombia. When you guys come, we're now planning new other fun things for you to do together, okay?

So I told you a little bit like a Woodstock kind of atmosphere here for progressives, although a more aggressive version of it. So we are gonna come out fighting, and so don't miss it, don't miss it, t.yt.com slash rally. All right, we got a big, big show ahead, John, take it away. Okay, so much to get to. Let's start off with some fun, or what passes for fun in American politics. At least two videos of Nancy Pelosi have been shared pretty widely by conservative media over the past day, and in both cases you have videos that are either deceptively edited or digitally manipulated to make the Speaker of the House look either drunk or senile.

We're going to show you those videos partially so that you'll be able to identify this sort of practice in the future, but understand these have both been manipulated in different ways. Here is the first. This is a video that has been literally slowed down. We want to give this president the opportunity to something historic for our country. We want to give this president the opportunity to something historic for our country. So credit there to the Washington Post for mashing up the version that's been going around initially on social media sites on Facebook, some conservative watchdog. groups, those are sites that you can trust.

They verify these videos after they manipulate them. And it appears that video has been slowed down to about 75% of its initial speed, had the audio manipulated a little bit to make it seem as if she's slurring her words. All right, so first of all, never trust a conservative, but the American media takes a little while to catch up. But here, give them credit, they did get to it pretty quickly, Washington Post most credit for identifying it first, and now it's been spread around. But they never internalize the lesson.

They continue to be like, well, I guess conservative outlets are just as legitimate as anything else. No, they're not. They lie on purpose all the time. Now in terms of these videos, you can slow down any video to make someone look bad. And you could take little snippets of people's speeches and take the little parts of they stumble or they pause and make them look bad, super easy to do that. So you could do it to anyone.

But why do the Republicans do it? For two reasons, one, it's projection. Donald Trump has clear and obvious problems with his mental stability. And so he doesn't know how to speak the English language. He often, and when he's on Twitter, his misspellings are outrageous. He'd have trouble passing third grade. And I can go on and on, and we will, we'll show you videos later on the program from Donald Trump that have not been altered, okay?

So what do they do? They attack on their weakness. So they did this to Hillary Clinton. They said, oh, she has an aneurysm. Now, some people still believe that. I don't know if you know this, she doesn't have one, hasn't had one in three years, okay? It's not remotely true, but they're like, aha. And then once they plant that seed in people's head, then everything turns into confirming

it. Hillary Clinton stumbled getting into a car, we knew it, we knew it, aneurism, right? Now from here on out, whatever Nancy Pelosi does, people will be like, huh, right? Right? Certainly all the right wing and all the people that they influence, including innocent family members that they'll be talking to over dinner, et cetera. So this is a very common practice to smear people on the right, and I wish the rest of the media would learn this lesson for the 800th time that that is their tactic, they're not looking

for a fair fight. Yeah. Yeah, I remember what was the woman who was the head of ACORN where they were the James O'Keefe got like a snippet of it and she was fired by the Obama administration. Yeah. Remember that? Shirley Sherrod. Exactly.

Like this has been going on for a while. And like you said, like no one has learned a lesson after 800 times, right? Like we still fall for it almost every single time. Yeah. And by the way, to give you a sense of how common that is, ACORN was different. Then you had Shirley Sherrodd. And the Obama administration panicked and fired her because they said, well, what is Glenn Beckmore to say on Fox News.

And then they went on to do it to Planned Parenthood and over and over and over again to I think Mary Landrieu down in Louisiana, same group Veritas, et cetera that did that. And still people are like, oh well, okay, mainstream media's like, I don't know, I'm gonna call it even between progressives and the right way. I think next time they should speed up Nancy Pelosi's speech instead of slow it down, make her sound like a member of Alvin and the Chitmunks. So if you see a video of Nancy Pelosi speaking like Alvin and the Chitmunks, it's probably It might be.

It might be. She's on cocaine. Yeah. And I'm gonna talk about the people spreading this in a second, but you've got a second video. Exactly. Well, I just want to give you, we're gonna give the video in one second, but I do want to let you know that one version, as of just last night, let alone all the views that it's continued to get on Facebook got 2 million views, but was shared more than 45,000 times and 23,000

comments of critical thinkers saying things like she's drunk and a babbling mess. So this is the video that is literally manipulated. They brought it in editing software, they slowed it down, they knew exactly what they were trying to do, and they did it. But regardless, and despite many times over the past couple of years saying that they're gonna take fake news seriously, Facebook is pretty much like, eh. They say that they'll downgrade its visibility in users' news feeds and attach a link to a third-party fact-checking site, pointing out that the clip is misleading. As a result, although it's less likely to be seen by accident, the doctor video will continue to wreck up views.

Facebook only took that action after the Washington Post launched inquiry. to them. So, they will not take that off, even though it is, I don't know what is a clear example of fake news. I mean, it's not a deep fake technically, but it achieves the same goal. Now, Deputy Chief of Staff for Pelosi, Drew Hamill said we're not going to comment on this sexist trash. But what's interesting about this, before we turn to the deceptively edited ones is a lot

of the most high profile conservatives at least waited long enough that they didn't spread this one. So Donald Trump didn't tweet this one out, Fox Business didn't use this one. It takes a certain type of brainless conservative to actually get caught by this one. And that's the president's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, who did tweet out that video and then took it down rapidly. And then he did sort of an apology the next morning with this tweet saying, this apology for a video which is allegedly is a caricature of an otherwise halting speech pattern.

She should stop first and apologize for saying the president needs an intervention, R. And attached to that tweet was a gift of, I believe, basketball players celebrating on the sidelines of a game. Now, if Nancy Pelosi had done that, people would be like, that's it, she's lost her mind, it's over, it's obvious, she's mentally incompetent, we gotta go, there'd be a whole huge brouhaha Fox News we'll talk about it 24, now look, to be fair, there's criticism of Giuliani, but what is that tweet? I mean, I don't know what any of that is.

I don't know, has he taken it down? No, I'm not sure. I don't think you did. I just saw it, like right before it went on air, I just saw it again. It has to be a joke though, right? No, no, no, no, no. I believe that both Rudy and Trump are losing their minds. Some sort of dimension.

What's, there is no such thing as a vis-z-z-a-pology. No such thing. And that sentence makes no sense. This is an apology for a video which is allegedly is a caricature of an otherwise halting speech pattern. This is a halting speech pattern in a tweet. that you typed out. So, no, it is classic projection.

So when Fox Business started talking about the other video, who was the guy talking about it? Greg Jarrett. Now, they're having conversation about whether Nancy Pelosi is a drunk. Okay, hilarious, ridiculous, preposterous. Greg Jarrett is an actual drunk. I do not know that. Yeah, he got arrested in an airport, incoherent drunk, had a wrestling match with a cop. What happened to Blue Lives Matter?

Okay, and so basically assaulted a police officer and was like, do you know who I am kind of action, et cetera. But I like him, and he had to go to rehab. Now if you're a progressive, you're supposed to feel bad about that under normal circumstances I would, not under this circumstance, not when you're going and smearing someone for what you actually are. And the other person on the panel with Greg Jarrett was Ed Rollins, who is borderly senile. He's 76 years old.

It's not about age. He's like, bambling, bruh. and can't work in politics anymore. So those two are claiming that Pelosi is too old and too drunk. I mean, that is Republican 101. Yeah, file it under projection. Do you wanna play that video? Yeah.

So Fox Business, after Fox had already, like an hour earlier, they were like, hey, there are fake videos going around of Nancy Pelosi. Now again, they did not use the one we just showed you, but they did use this. We had a little, took a little longer on the floor, custody of the border. border. Everyone, he started sending signals, the U.S., Mexico, Canada, if that's not the accurate. Some people call it after NAFTA. Some call it NAFTA. 2.0 working together to pass that. Not if we're the fat, there's three things. There's three things. There's three things. There's three things. We're very busy people. Okay. Now, we did not edit that. That was,

everything that played on Fox Business Channel, just a reminder, and that is effectively about 30 seconds that was called out a few seconds at a time from a 21 minute speech. Yeah, so, I don't want to encourage people, but boy, could you do that to us? Of course, when you're speaking without a prompter, you will have many moments where you pause, stutter, repeat yourself, say something slightly wrong, you can do it to anybody, wait till you get a load of what we're gonna do to Donald Trump later in the show. Okay, but that one is not altered, but it is edited. How long did you say 21 minutes?

I believe her initial address was 21 minutes. Yeah, you take Trump in 21 minutes? Are you kidding me? Giuliani for 21 minutes? You could have a video that is 10 times that length of totally incoherent talk from them. But the problem is once people see the video and they repeated, obviously, the two, three mistake. So it makes it seem like she's doing it over and over again. It emphasizes it.

Now there's progressives online that I've seen like, but Jane, you have to confess the shit. No, I don't have to confess anything. And look, there is no more credible person than me on this because I can't stand Nancy Pelosi. I think she is blocking all progressive priorities. I got no love for her. And I'm the one who just recently wrote an op-ed in the Hill saying she's not a progressive and should not be trusted. But this is totally unfair and I will defend her 100% on this.

Yeah, we were talking about before the show, how Matt, I am at the right that they have forced me to defend her in this way. Because there are so many reasons to oppose her. They just don't happen to have to do with her down in Guinness before she gives addresses. Yeah, facts matter, reality matters. So if you want to attack her on policy or principles, that makes sense. If you want to attack her on nonsense, do not feed the right wing trolls. That is a terrible idea.

It's just so depressing because all this stuff, I mean, it's only going to get worse, right? as technology improves, as video editing software improves, you're going to be able to see stuff that looks really, really real. It is hard to figure out if it's actually been doctored or not. And it just contributes to this general kind of ambient feeling of unreality that we exist in these days. That's just kind of the 2019, 2018 world that is just the kind of... We need to talk about a relatively new show called Un-F-Emm the Republic or UNFTR.

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It's hard to sort of poke your head out and take a breath of fresh air. Yeah. Yeah, so Nando, that's such a great point because I had a guest on the program a little while ago, and he talked about the idea of manufacturing doubt. Yeah. It was in the context of climate change, but he referred back to how the tobacco companies invented this basically, where they said, well, we don't have to convince people that smoking is good for them.

We just have to create doubt as to whether it's harmful to them. And so then they'll call it a draw and they'll keep on smoking. Same thing that the oil companies did do and are in the middle of doing with climate change. And that is what Republicans do, their opponents. So now when Nancy Pelosi, they've created doubt, and they manufacture doubt, and then we live in this alternate reality where you don't know what's real and what's not real anymore. And that way when they lie, their lies then get equated to the truth, boom, they manufacture doubt exactly what they want.

And the way the media is structured to sort of deal with any situation is to kind of play both sides, right? So as long as you just create another side, no matter what, how preposterous it is, you will at least get a draw, like you said. You'll at least plant the seed of doubt in like some reporter in the New York Times is mine. And he'll feel the need to sort of pay lip service at least to this new thing that they've just been invented. And as long as you kind of do that, you at least dull the sort of real narrative of what's

going on. You kind of take away a little bit of its edge, and that's all they need really. Yeah, so Nando, another great point, look, I've got to double down on it because this is why the media's obsession with neutrality actually hurts the real standard of objectivity. Objectivity says this is true and this is not true. These are facts and these are not facts. Neutrality says, he said, she said. So in an environment where the mainstream media, unfortunately, has fallen to this fetish of neutrality, that actually gives an advantage to lies and to anyone who wants to manufacture a doubt. That's actually the, if you wanted a media that was nearly perfect for you, you'd want one

obsessed with neutrality if you're in the business of lying and creating doubt. And that's exactly where we are. Yeah, there's a documentary about the concept of hyper-normalization. That's great talk. Yeah, there you go. And sort of in this area. And by the way, at the same time that you're casting down on everything and you're getting your fans and your supporters, your cultists, however you want to say it, to believe more and more brazen lies,

That might not work unless the right had been conducting for literally decades now, a movement by Fox News and by conservative think tanks to undermine all of the sort of traditional arbiters of the truth and expertise in academia and the media and it's all fake news and you can't trust the scientists and all of that. But even in that New York Times sort of hit piece on Bernie Sanders foreign policy that came out last week, you know, the sort of guy that they quoted to sort of give the other side to Bernie's positions on central. America in the 1980s was Otto Reich, right? A guy who was, you know, part of the Reagan administration's, you know, frontal team in Latin America at the time, right? One of the perpetrators of all these things. And all he has to do is kind of provide the other side. And that gives, that's enough cover for this New York Times, for the New York Times reporting team

to be able to just like say, okay, we got, we got both sides. And the effect of that is to obscure the truth, not reveal it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know, I think we should, you know, have a conversation about the contra point of view. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, and if you ran a death cult down there, I don't know, he said, she said, right? You want to turn to Trump now?

Yeah, let's do. We got time. Okay, so the writer's been spreading videos of Nancy Pelosi that have been doctor to make it look like she is slurring her words. Well, let's say you wanted to do that with Donald Trump. What would that look like? It would probably look something like this. If we brought George Washington here and we said we have George Washington, the Democrats would vote against him, just so you understand. And he may have had a bad past. Who knows? He may have had some, I think, accusations made.

Didn't he have a couple of things in his past? And finally, I asked the leaders of the region, political and religious, Israeli and Palestinian, Jewish and Christian and Muslim to join us in the noble, quest for lasting peace. And God bless the United Church. Thank you very much. I've seen. Have you ever seen? They do great. They're great. They hit the last turn. Everyone goes crazy. Then they go back for an encore, right? And they don't hit it. And they leave. Everyone leaves. They said, that wasn't a very good concert, was it? Let's go. Prime Minister and I also discussed ways we can deepen our trade relationship based on the core principles. of fairness and reciprocity. We appreciate it very much, Tim Apple.

But we didn't include the oranges. Oh, there's so many more. There's so many more. Yeah. So, look, we edited those together, but we didn't alter it. We didn't change anything, he said, he actually said, God grass you're out of stress. He actually just said, cars, press, bar, you can rewind the tape and watch it. I don't know, there's series about his dentress falling out or whatever.

That's what it is. And that's probably why Nancy Pelosi is in a position where you can slow it down. And it sounds like that. She might be experiencing the same thing. I have no idea. All I know is that Democrats don't do this on a regular basis. And Barack Obama would never, ever tweet out something like that. And then on the other hand, Trump, who knows that he has slurred his words and said incredibly

strange, bizarre, nonsensical things. It's like, oh, yeah, look at Pelosi. Ha ha, ha, I got her. I got her. I mean, I go, sure. This is a similar sort of thing I thought was happening to Obama. You'd watch videos that had clearly been slowed down, but no, he just spoke at that speed. Yes, he was a very slow speaker.

Jay, are going to attest to that. Okay, you want to move on to the last thing? Yeah. Okay. So, we have shown you a video of Donald Trump sounding a little bit ridiculous. Let's go to a mashup of some more stupid. comments that when you put them back to back, makes him look pretty bad too. Well, number one, I'm not stupid, okay? I can tell you that.

I said, how does it do it in fights? And how do they do in fights with the F-35? Said, we do very well. You can't see it. You literally, you can't see it. So it's hard to fight a plane that you can't see, right? The enemy cannot see it. Even if it's right next to it, it can't see them. Other than that, they're easy to beat. It's incredible equipment. Brand new coal mine where they're going to take out clean coal, meaning they're taking out coal. They're going to clean it. Department of Environmental. I mean, the DEP is killing us. Two Corinthians, right? Two Corinthians, 317. That's the whole ball game. And I watch our police and our firemen down on 7-Eleven down to the World Trade Center right after it came down. This is an island

surrounded by water, big water, ocean water. This is a tough hurricane. One of the wettest we've ever seen from the standpoint of water. Well, number one, I'm not stupid, okay? I can tell you that right now. That's your extraordinarily stable genius. If you have to repeatedly tell people that you are a stable genius, there's some chance you're neither.

So unlike the right wing, we do not have to manipulate the videos. So that is the real president of the United States. He is a buffoon of the highest order. That's why he lashes out of people like Nancy Pelosi. And that's why they have to alter the tapes or manipulate how they edit the tapes. With Trump, you just let it roll. And look, we didn't even get into the oranges of those tapes. If we get into those oranges, I mean, we might find out that the world comes.

Cup Series champions, Red Sox are, you know, are not what we expected. And in fact, there might even be coups against them from the Marine Corps. Okay, all things he said on Twitter and his White House as well. And we haven't even gotten into Kofifei and a kushlachlissons that he just did the other day. So yes, he has real and significant issues with mental stability. That is among the reasons he ironically lashes out at people like Nancy Pelosi and questions their stability. Yeah, and of course, while those mashups are, you know, for a person that wants there to be

an intelligent, stable person in the White House, those are scary. Far scarier are the mashups of him encouraging violence and things like that, talking about, you know, immigrants and everything that could be far scarier. The only other point I want to make is this is sort of, a normal play for the Republicans to do this to Nancy Pelosi. I mean, look, no matter who is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, they're gonna attack them. They did it with Barack Obama, if it's Bernie, it's gonna be Bernie.

But there's a sort of special place in the heart of a lot of conservatives and especially conservative activists to demonize women who are Democrats. There's nothing they like more than that. And honestly, if you're a regular Republican fan out there, you might be a little bit sad that Clinton's gone. You really liked hating Clinton, and now they've got it for you. They've got some Ilhan Omar, maybe some AOC, and oh, Nancy Pelosi, she even looks a little bit like Clinton. She's the classic.

I mean, I remember in the 2014 midterm elections, basically 99% of the ads Republicans ran across the country were just attacking Nancy Pelosi. Vote for this guy to get Nancy Pelosi that limousine liberal communist from San Francisco and her San Francisco values. That's what they kept on saying, get her out of the speakership, because that's our number one priority. That was like the number one target. I guarantee you, no matter how many times the Pelosi videos are disproven, you will hear about them for the rest of time. Yeah. Going into each election, every time Pelosi's in the news, the right wing will come out and

go, I remember, she's seen out, she's drunk, she's this. Because they're impervious to facts. And that's why they think the DEP is killing us. Yeah. I wish she was as left wing as the conservatives think she is. Oh, that would be awesome. That would be fantastic. They get our hopes up, and then we actually see what's actually see what.

Nancy Pelosi says and then we all get disappointed. And final thing is, to John's point, and we say this all the time on the York Turks is it is a common theme with the media. The double standard is maddening. If Nancy Pelosi had said in a rally she was doing, yeah, you should punch Republicans in the face and I'll pay your legal bills if you do. If she had said, hey, I remember the good old days when we used to take out Republicans in stretchers and constantly encouraged people to deck them, hit them.

If she bragged about how a Democratic congressman had assaulted a reporter, and she was so proud of him for assaulting a reporter, which is what Trump did in Montana. Yeah. I mean, every Republican would say there's no decorum, there's no values, there's no morality, it's outrageous, and all the media would agree in pylon, and then the Democrats would agree in pylon, and whoever said that would be eliminated from the public discourse. But on the right wing side, there's never any accountability. Trump is president and he's no, he's lost no Republican support over this.

No Republican support. Rudy Giuliani, his lawyer is even more unstable than he is, still no consequences. Ben Carson, God knows what he's doing at HUD. I mean, he was an absolute mess other day talking about, are you asking about Oreos? Right? And there's never any consequences for the right wing and the band marches on. And all I want is the media to acknowledge, it is not even, one side has significant issues and constantly lies about the other side.

But they'll never say that, they'll like, oh, that's not neutral. I can't say it, that's not neutral. That also isn't journalism, neutrality isn't journalism, objectivity is. Yeah. All right, we gotta take a break a lot more when we come back. I'm gonna tell you about a couple of quick things here. First of all, the crazy folks at shopTy.com with another outrageous sale, free shipping, not authorized. A good rogue.

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was very much in their sights. And this week, two more ways that the community was being targeted have been revealed. On Friday morning, the Department of Health and Human Services proposed a new rule that would remove anti-discrimination protections for transgender Americans from the Affordable Care Act, asserting that discrimination on the basis of sex should not include gender identity. In a press release Friday morning, the HHS said this move continues its mission to, quote, vigorously enforce prohibitions of discrimination by allowing for further discrimination that had been taken away under the Obama administration.

Without this Obama era language, healthcare workers would be free to object to performing procedures like gender reassignment surgery, and insurers would not be bound to cover all services for transgender customers. There's a great quote in defense of this move. HHS Office of Civil Rights Director Roger Severino argued that this change should not be a burden on trans Americans as it does not forbid any medical provider from offering transgender people gender-related care, which has nothing to do with the concerns. Yes, it doesn't stop them from doing it, but it allows them to not do it.

And so now, if you want to be reimbursed for- The director of civil rights at HUD under the Trump administration, that guy must be, that might be a real great guy. Yeah, so because of Ben Carson's testimony over the last couple of days that we've been talking I went back and re-read the story of how the Trumps were, well, basically fined. They eventually agreed to pay a fine for housing discrimination in New York. And the details of that story are pretty horrific. At the time, Trump was the president of the organization.

Donald Trump was the president of organization and his father also obviously ran it as well. In reality, of course, his dad ran it and the little clown man was, okay, daddy, what are we doing against black people? That sounds great, daddy, let's do that. So he was 27 years old at the time. So what do they do? They not only did not allow African Americans to rent in their facilities, every time it had to, they had to, civil rights activists had to go and pretend, it's a white person,

they give the apartment to the white person, then they come back out and say, well, you didn't give it to the African American that came 15 minutes ago, the same apartment, same exact, context, et cetera, and then one time a guy, one of his managers started yelling out the N-word and N-lovers, etc. Trump, later when he was running for president in 2016, said that particular manager, when he was out in Ohio, said it was a fantastic guy. Anyway, what they would, if it was a black applicant, they'd put a C on the application, C for colored, and they would reject all of them. Yeah.

So that's why when Nando says civil rights at housing and urban development in the Trump administration, unlikely to be a position that is actually fighting for civil rights given Trump's track record. Yeah. Well, in this particular case, it's HHS. But what you should know about Roger Severino is that he has been classified by groups that look out for the welfare of the LGBTQ community as an anti-LGBQ radical, effectively. That's what his career has been, is targeting those people attempting to.

legally define away their rights and things like that. And now he's in a position, thanks to Donald Trump, where he gets to do that, and then spout off bizarre Orwellian things about continuing access to health care. Yeah, when Carson was asked about it, and that's why we brought a HUD, he said he was worried about the regulatory burdens for homelessness service providers. At TYT, we frequently talk about all the ways that big tech companies are taking control of our online lives, constantly monitoring us and storing and selling our data. But that doesn't mean we have to let them. It's possible to stay anonymous online and hide your data from the prying eyes of big tech.

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And if you go to ExpressVPN.com slash TYT, you can get three extra months for free with this exclusive link just for TYT fans. That's EX, P-R-E-S-V-P-N dot com slash T-YT. Check it out today. Actually, isn't it more regulation to say, hey, if a trans person says I am male or female, for you to this, then go and say, well, I don't believe you, I'm gonna need paperwork, I'm gonna need a birth certificate, I'm gonna need further proof, and so, no, that's more regulation. The less regulation position is, you say you're a woman, great, go to the woman's section. No regulation at all. And so these changes that you're talking about now in housing, we found out about this

week, and I believe we have updated video of Ben Carson talking about this aspect of the story. And can you assure this committee that you will not make any, that that, that's HUD does not have any current or future plans to eliminate the equal access rule in rulemaking? I'm not going to say what we will do in the future about anything. We don't know what we're going to do in the future. Are you currently anticipating doing that? I'm not currently anticipating changing the rule. And that's because I literally have no thoughts about the future right now. Yeah, so I would not be reassured if I was worried about about losing access to housing in this area.

And to give you an idea of how serious these sorts of changes could be, one in four transgender adults experienced some kind of housing bias in the last year, including being evicted or denied a home. One in three were homeless in their lifetime, and one in eight were homeless in the last year. Those who experienced homelessness were more likely to face physical and sexual violence, as well as be forced into survival sex work. So this is not just about housing, even though if it were just about housing, that would

be more than enough for us to care. It also is, at least in many cases, possibly a life and death sort of change that they're making. Yeah, it's hard to imagine a more vulnerable sector of the society than homeless transgender people. But like in, you know, as we've seen for a long time on the right, the vicious targeting of the most vulnerable is the point. Like that's what, that's kind of like what they get off on.

And the effect that it has is that it forces people. people, like forces activists and progressives and everyone to, um, to sort of fight these all out war on all fronts all the time. And it would be like, when they can like, you know, they, when they're in power, they can just like, say this is going away. And then that, that requires a huge mobilization, huge effort from activists, resources, time, effort. It's just demoralizing and dispiriting and that's the point, right?

That it, that it just sucks out over the long term, the energy to sort of fight these things over and over and over and over again. Well, there's one other layer to that. strategy that Nando is referring to, which is they find any group that is considered the other, not just by the right wing, but by some independence because society is slow to change. And then they hyper focus on them and try to take away their rights to provoke progressives to defend them, which decent people would. People who believe in America would, because we believe you should have equal rights. And then they turn around and go, you see that, the entire

Democratic Party is all about trans people, that's all they are. And before it used to be gay people, before it used to be black people. It's still Latinos, it's still Muslims. And so, especially with groups like Muslims, which have suffered tremendous propaganda against them in the press and through the right wing, et cetera, they get to then say, they're defending Muslims, you know, which side they're on, right? And unfortunately, that works far too well. And they go from victim to victim to victim, because they are the bad guys of history.

They are. And will the press ever tell you that? They're like, no, I can't tell who's the good guys and who's the bad guys. One party has constantly been attacking, attacking, attacking different groups of Americans trying to isolate them, demagogue against them, and take away their rights as Americans. But I can't tell who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. And honestly, in this particular case, the right really is sort of having their cake and eating their two.

They're coming at this problem for multiple directions, because estimates show that LGBTQ youth comprise up to 40% of the total unaccompanied homeless youth population, even though they make up 5 to 10% of the overall youth population. So why is it that they are four to eight times overrepresented? I can't say for sure, I'm not an expert, but I have a feeling it's not progressive families that are forcing out LGBTQ kids. Oh, absolutely. I mean, why do you think those kids are out in the street?

Because they have been rejected, and oftentimes by their own family. And why is that? Because there is demagoguery and propaganda out there saying they're the others, they're the bad ones, they're immoral, they're wrong. So a good loving family would kick out their own son or daughter, would have them go into the streets and expose them to physical and sexual violence and maybe ruin their lives forever. That would be the family values thing to do. But I can't tell who the good guys are and who the bad guys are.

Let's have a debate where we call it 50-50. By the way, on Carson, when he said, oh, I can't tell the future, hey, look, you're in charge of the department, they're asking you, what are you going to do with the department? I can't tell the future is not a good answer. But the second part of the answer was the actual problematic one, where he said, I don't think we're going to, likely to change the policy. That's actually because he just woke up from a nap. The reality is, it turns out they are considering changing the policy.

So Representative Jennifer Wexton, who had asked that question, said that he had proven himself to be deceitful and inept as a secretary. and should be removed from office. Yeah. We should probably break though. When we come back, we're gonna have some on Bernie Sanders foreign policy and then two of the most high profile bros on Twitter banned for life. We'll explain why after this. We hope you're enjoying this free clip from The Young Turks.

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All of you guys, you can use hashtag TYT live to talk to us during the show. Proud to be a leftist says, I was laughing out loud while watching the Trump tongue twister mashup, and my family looked at me like I was crazy. I said I was watching the news, they looked even more disturbed. Well, let your family know, the news can actually be fun. It is actually allowed by law. It's just no one else chooses to take advantage of that. Gabby Marita says, I would challenge someone to selectively edit video of Trump to make him sound eloquent.

I'm not sure it's actually possible. Not a good idea. All right, good idea as usual, Gabby. And Bepa writes in, are you surprised, Jank, referring to Trump? He did evict a black family out of his current home. Oh, okay, that would hurt a little bit, Peppa. Okay, thanks a lot. Yeah, all right, but hey, if you write it on the Tweeter, you go read it.

Yeah. Okay. So we played two awesome mashups. There was one other mashup that I believe Vice put together that we played a section of on the damage report this morning of all the times Trump has said Bing to sort of explain something. Not the search engine. It is more ridiculous than it seems.

It doesn't seem like it's making any sense what I'm saying, but it is ridiculous. It's probably up on YouTube.com slash the damage port. Go take a look at that. And now to Sanders. Okay. Meet the press generated a little bit of controversy earlier this week with a curiously worded tweet about Bernie Sanders saying Bernie Sanders said he won't apologize for supporting anti-Vietnam war efforts and voting against the war in Iraq.

Quote, I will do everything I can to see problems solve diplomatically instead of through war. And I read that and think, how could anyone support that man? He won't apologize for not supporting Iraq. But they put that out there. And Bernie Sanders has been criticized quite a bit on his foreign policy recently. We were talking about in the New York Times. And so perhaps because of that, Bernie Sanders put out a video explaining his approach to foreign policy.

And here it is. Recently, I've been criticized a bit because of my opposition to war and my beliefs that we've got to do everything possible to solve international conflict without. going to war. So let me be very clear. I made no apologies to anybody that when I was a young man before I was elected to anything, I opposed the war in Vietnam. And I know what that war did to my generation. And when I was a member of the House, I helped lead the effort against the war in Iraq because I knew that Cheney and Bush and these other folks were lying about weapons of mass destruction. giving the president a blank check to launch a unilateral invasion and occupation of Iraq and why I will vote against this resolution.

And that war, in that vote, was the worst foreign policy blunder in the modern history of the United States. And as a senator, I'm proud that I helped for the first time in 45 years to utilize the War Powers Act to get the United States out of an unauthorized war in Yemen. Unfortunately, after passing in the House and the Senate, Trump, vetoed that legislation. And I'll tell you something that right now, I'm going to do everything that I can to prevent a war with Iran. Because if you think the war in Iraq was a disaster, my guess is that the war in Iran would be even worse. So let's work together and prevent that war.

People want to criticize me for that? Go for it. That's okay. I don't apologize to anybody. Thank you. Damn. That's a gangster. That's the roll right there.

Okay. I like the beat in the background. Yeah. I like how he's talking softly. Yeah, I don't know. It's all the haters. Yeah, yeah. I don't have to talk loud to get my message across.

And that is a very long hallway. It's actually just a circle. Yeah. So, look, to be fair to meet the press, that was a tweet in the actual interview. I went back in look. Chuck Todd does bring up something. bring up something that is, you know, potentially in their minds damaging to Bernie Sanders, but he didn't frame it as a, will you apologize for being right about Vietnam and Iraq.

He said they're going to bring up all these times that you went abroad and argued against some of America's interventions, and they're going to throw the hammer a sickle thing at you. Now, that's a different problem, and I want to address that in a second as well. But the tweet for Meet the Press framed it as he didn't apologize for Vietnam and Iraq. And of course on that, and partly based on what Bernie Sanders had said in his answer, but of course on that, I mean, only in Washington would that even be a question, right? But right now, Bernie Sanders is second place in the Democratic primaries. In first place, there's a guy who should apologize because Joe Biden voted for that Iraq war.

And oftentimes people like Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden and John Kerry and others will say, well, I mean, there was nothing we could do. No, no, there was a lot you could do. A lot of Democrats voted no. This was the thing that Bernie Sanders was actually not alone on. He was alone on a lot of the votes that he was 100% right about and has been proven by history to be right about. But on this one, a lot of Democrats voted no on Iraq, we're including Bernie Sanders.

Biden thought it would help his career to vote yes. So Meet the Press should actually ask him if he apologizes for that. Because right now, even meet the press, I think, would acknowledge that the Iraq war was an absolute disaster. And so a lot of times, this is just like exact replay of Hillary Clinton versus Bernie Sanders in this sense. People say, well, Hillary Clinton's got a lot of experience. A lot of experience getting things wrong.

Joe Biden has a lot of experience, getting things wrong. Whether it's domestic policy on the bankruptcy bill and so many other things, but also foreign policy like the Iraq war. So on the issue of hammer and sickle, like, ah, you old commie, I can't believe you supported democracy in Nicaragua when we had sent to death squads. Why didn't you back American death squads? I'm pretty sure he doesn't have to apologize for that either. Yeah.

Yeah, the United States history in Central America in the 1980s is arguably one of the more shameful, horrible chapters in our history out of any of them, and there's plenty. And Bernie Sanders' opposition to that, which, again, I mean, was quite courageous at the time, you know, given just how much pressure there was to sort of fall in line on that, you know, that's only something to be celebrated. And, you know, it's interesting because, you know, he's going to force a debate on foreign policy that hasn't been had in a Democratic primary in a long time. I mean, I still remember, like, that great moment in his debate against Hillary Clinton,

when he says, you know, Henry Kissinger is not my friend, and I don't want to be his friend, whatever. You know, like, if he can force that issue, if he can force that issue against, you know, Biden specifically, but even like all these other Democratic candidates who probably don't really have a very developed position on any of this stuff, you know, I think it could be, I mean, I think it would ultimately in the long run be a very good thing, not just for him, but I think for all of us. And I'm glad that he combines two things in that answer.

One, he showcases that for literally decades, he has been consistent in opposing unnecessary wars, both as an outsider to politics and someone whose political future could have been ruined if he'd been wrong there. He was bold and honest and authentic in that. But he also pointed out why I think at least right now he has the best claim to being the one who is running as an anti-war candidate, because a lot of the candidates won't even speak out against these conflicts, they won't even match that low bar. Some will, and are saying the right things, they're moving.

us in the right direction. But Bernie Sanders, along with Rokana and a few others, put their time and energy and political capital into trying to get us out of the Yemen conflict, a conflict that the vast majority of the people in the American media don't care about, don't talk about. There was almost no upside to that, but he actually did it. It wasn't just talk, it was action, and it required Trump's only second veto ever to stop that from going through. It's one of the most remarkable votes I've ever seen in Congress and Senate in my life.

Bernie somehow pulled it off. I don't really know what he did to pressure these guys to vote against the war in Yemen. Because it's like you said, it's not like there's a big popular movement to oppose the war in Yemen. There's virtually no movement. So the fact that it goes against the criticism that there's often a Bernie of that he's so idealistic that he doesn't know how government actually works and how to actually govern if you're in power and things like that.

He's showing that he actually can move the needle on this kind of thing because, again, I can't think of a more remarkable vote in my life. Yeah. Yeah, so let me say one more thing about Bernie on the issue of war. I know the mainstream media generally doesn't care about policy and doesn't care about who's right and who's wrong, but that is kind of what we're voting on. So they say we're biased in favor of Bernie. Now let's think about that for a second.

Why? As I've said this a thousand times, he's not our uncle. He doesn't pay you guys. Yeah, if he was for the wars. wars, we'd be against them. You can pay me, I'll keep supporting them. Yeah. And so, here's a guy who is a track record for 40 years of being right and being opposed to

the wars that were disasters. That matters, that matters. Why does it matter? Because when he's president, then he might be opposed to another dumb war. Joe Biden has a history of being in favor of dumb wars, that matters. Am I positive that Joe Biden is not going to get us into a war with Iran? No, I am not positive. Am I positive Bernie Sanders is not going to get us into one?

Yes, I am positive. By the way, I think Elizabeth Warren is a fantastic candidate. She has a lot of great detailed policy positions and I've supported her throughout this entire campaign, but she's not anywhere near as good as Bernie Sanders on this issue. So on wars, not only does Bernie Sanders better today, but he's also proven that he could be trusted. And so if you don't want a disastrous war, there is one candidate that stands. head and shoulders above the rest.

I don't say that because I'm biased in favor of Bernie Sanders. I say that because I'm biased in favor of facts. Yeah. And it's arguably where the president has the most leeway and most power to actually act unilaterally is in matters of foreign affairs, right? I mean, you know, like, will he be able to pass Medicare for all if he wins? I mean, it's hard, it's gonna be, but like he could do so much to sort of rein in, you know, aggressive American foreign policy just by, just by the fact that he's the president,

he's in power. Yeah. Yeah. policy is just so important to any presidential campaign. Absolutely. One more story? Yep. Okay.

Prominent hashtag resistance bros, Ed and Brian Krasenstein, have been banned from Twitter, for life, actually, for, quote, operating multiple fake accounts and purchasing account interactions. I would give you more details, but I don't have any. So it sounds like they were using accounts, sort of sock puppet accounts. Ah, Nancy Pelosi, like, you got it. Oh, no. No, no, don't edit that together, no, no.

And also account interactions, which could be likes or retweets or comments or whatever. I don't think it directly says that they're buying followers. I wouldn't rule it out though. If you're not familiar with the Krasenstein brothers, I envy you. No, but also, you've probably come across them. They are, they're not breaking laws, they're not Jacob Wohl, they're not the worst people in the world, but they were annoying and kind of shallow on Twitter, and they would reply to everything that Donald Trump put out there. And yeah, so I want to show a little bit about the argument for why they needed to be removed. And then also an image that I know Nando is excited about.

That was, I think, Pete Krasenstein. So Twitter says the Twitter rules apply to everyone. Operating multiple fake accounts and purchasing account interactions are strictly prohibited. Engaging these behaviors will result in permanent suspension from the service. If you want to maintain Twitter presence, you can't do this sort of stuff. You can advocate for Nazi policies, you just can't do this sort of stuff if you want to stay on Twitter. Twitter. I've got to jump in there.

I love that rule. They say they're gonna apply to everybody, can't wait. So here's what I want you to investigate, all of the political campaigns, the Democratic ones and the Republican ones, because I would be shocked if they were not using multiple fake accounts and purchasing account interactions, and you say that'll result in a permanent suspension. You're really gonna do a permanent suspension of Donald Trump's campaign? Are you gonna do a permanent suspension of Joe Biden's campaign if it turns out they're using sock puppets and these things?

Look, I see it every day. You can tell a clear pattern of bots when you see one. They'll quote the same articles that are from a long time ago that no actual human has access to at the tip of their fingers. They'll say similar things. I've seen it a million times and the campaigns definitely use them. So Twitter, I'm challenging you to investigate Democratic and Republican campaigns. So if you really mean it, because I'm not sure I believe you.

I think that you are doing this. You had to act on some of the outrageous things that the right wing was doing. Then you had to find the left wing, anyone, anyone to ban on the left wing so you could say you're neutral. But I don't think you actually want to challenge power. And I don't think you want to actually apply these rules to everybody. Because if you did, you'd probably have to ban at least half the campaigns from Twitter. Keep it real.

And I'd love to see, I'd love for them to answer, are they investigating the campaigns or Or are they not? Because I'd be shocked if the campaigns weren't using bots. Yeah. So they have responded saying Twitter claims that we manipulated our interactions through the purchase of fake accounts and fake interactions. We have never once acquired anything for the purpose of increasing our Twitter presence. The crowd scenes say they only operated secondary accounts on Twitter to monitor death threats,

as well as accounts for their businesses. And honestly, I'm sure that they were purchasing various things. But I also think that they just had a lot of followers because there is a big market for sort of shallow anti-Trump commentary, like you can get people to follow you. And in fact, they had a lot of followers. Ed Krasenstein, that's funny, we'll get to that a second. Ed Krasenstein had roughly 925,000 followers before he was banned, while Brian Krasnstein had more than 697,000 followers.

And look, I'm a person, I care about the environment, I care about animals, I care about endangered species, and the Krasnsteins are now endangered on Twitter. We've lost two, we are just left with Kenny Klippenstein, noted Krasnstein. Yeah. And it's sad. He's only at 113,000 followers. He's the least successful of a Krasenstein. So go follow Ken Clippenstein on Twitter.

He's a great reporter. So the reason we're joking around about that is for what, I guess because the names are somewhere similar, people often confuse Ken, who is our senior investigative reporter for the Krasenstein's. And he's like, I'm not a Krasenstein. Yeah. But even the Krasenstein's joke about him being a Krasenstein, which I don't think that he enjoyed. I don't know.

I'm not convinced he's not. Like Krasenstein, I need to see the facts. I still haven't, I haven't seen a natural birth certificate. Yeah, and Twitter, please don't accidentally ban him. He's a real reporter. I have not seen any confirmation that he's not one of the Krasnstein's fake accounts. Yeah, he could be, he could be just a bomb. Then he's doing great report.

They're doing great reporting and I didn't know it. I want to show you one more thing. I want to make clear that like, so they've been banned, I have been annoyed with them historically. Really? I couldn't tell. But they're by far not the worst people in America. I'm not trying to make that case. However, they have done a few things that stand out as a little bit odd.

If you've listened to their podcast, it's something. And then they also, they've done something that I have not been able to successfully do is actually finish and publish a book. So Ed Krasnstein had tweeted this after some criticism of an image in their kid's book. I love how people are trying to attack at Krasenstein and I for including a muscular superhero in our kids book saying it's a quote, fetish picture book. I guess it's wrong for the Hulk, He-Man, and Ninja Turtles to all be musk. Heroes, too, check it out.

And yes, that's Robert Mueller because it's that sort of book. Yeah, is Robert Mueller in a Chippendale's outfit? In their defense, he often does not wear shirts while conducting business. Yeah, and he's yoked, it's fine. But, you know,

it's just, I mean, that's what they did. They just like, it was liberal wish fulfillment. Yes. It was what they were operating on. Just taking advantage of people's trauma that Trump won the election. It's a little gross. It's not the worst thing in the world.

Again, they're not Nazis. But it's kind of funny to see them banned. Yeah, look, since I don't know the Krasnstein's, sorry that they probably take greatest offense of that as opposed to what these two said. Okay, but I'm not offended. I don't know them. I'm not offended by that. I find that to be funny.

So why is that bother you guys so much? I don't get it. It's weird. It's just like, the thing that bothers me the most in media and social media is that there's a particular talent that some people have. It is to identify out there a hunger, a deep hunger for a specific thing, and they exploit that for money. And I'm not even talking specifically about the Krasnstein seeds. That's something that people do now.

Jacob Wohl is an example of that. All of the anonymous 40-year-old blondes who respond to Donald Trump and get hundreds of thousands of followers, I've identified that. If I say this thing, if I produce this thing, people will give my Patreon money. And that image of Robert Mueller is peak liberal wish fulfillment. And I get it. I watch Stephen Colbert sometimes funny. It's detached from reality for the most part. It's liberal wish fulfillment.

I get why people want it. And they have monetized that up until now better than the vast majority of people. All right, but I gotta say, I don't want false equivalency though. I mean, we mentioned Jacob Wall. Jacob Wall is a monster and a clown. Yes. Okay, Krasnstein do tweets you don't love. Okay.

They're ultimately harmless. They're ultimately harmless. And it's not Kleppinstein. Okay. Kempastine may be the biggest victim out of all of this. The ironic thing is the only person who's actually qualified to identify if he's a Krasnstein would be Kenny Klippenstein, who's a great investigative reporter. Yeah, and last thing is, look, the Krasnstein say, we didn't do it.

We didn't do these things that Twitter says we did. I have no idea who's telling the truth on that. So if they have evidence, because I don't put it past any establishment organization at this point, Twitter, because of its size, et cetera, is in a sense to do false equivalency on their own. And to go, well, since the right wing are monsters, but they yell at us, we have to have a sacrificial lamb on the left wing side. So I don't know because I don't have access to the facts and information and Twitter

did not make them public whether they actually did do these things, it should be banned, or if they're sacrificial lambs. I don't know. Probably a bit of both. I think it's a bit of both, yes. Okay, but you guys don't know either. Okay, all right. It has never stopped me before.

Okay. All right, guys. uh so uh we got to take a quick break thank you guys everybody check out damage report thank you for joining us dando we've got a very powerful second power panel lauren grimm versus ilhan omar when we return thanks for listening to the full episode of the young turks support our work listen ad free access members only bonus content and more by subscribing to apple podcast at apple dot co slash t yt i'm your host jank huger and i'll see you soon