The Young Turks - Falling In Line
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All right, welcome to the young Turks live from the Polymarker studio here in Los Angeles, Jake Ugar, Anna Consparing with you guys.
Down goes, no, not yet, not yet.
I did predict that it would be today, but apparently not so the day's not over.
yet, but we'll get into if and when Joe Biden is going to step down.
And I don't care how much he's hanging on right now.
It's definitely when, it's not if, he's gonna step down.
Is he?
He's pretty defiant.
I mean, he's like the Delaware version of Brooklyn Dad defiant, okay?
Okay, all right, I guess.
Okay, a little bit delusional, but it's okay, except it's not, but okay.
Delaware, great, great grandfather defiant.
Okay, I hear you.
But anyways, obviously we're going to get into that, and it's going to a huge part of the show.
We do have a member of a hostage family that's going to join us in a little bit because they're on the precipice of doing a ceasefire, except they're not.
We've got developments on that for you from Israel, obviously, and the guests.
And then if we have time after all the avalanche of Biden stories, and there are an enormous number of really important Biden stories.
And then I hope Anna and I get a chance of debate, whether you should turn your marriage more into a...
Debate?
A business.
Oh my God, Jake.
Are you...
Okay.
No, we're going to have to have the debate.
Now we're going to have to throw down.
I can't believe you want to turn it into a debate.
I thought we were in agreement, but okay.
Okay, listen, I've been prepping for this debate for 11 days straight.
I do have a little bit of jet lag.
Okay, but let's see if I can handle that debate later in the show.
Okay, lots of fun. Let's get to it.
Well, why don't we start with this?
Democratic donors and office holders and lawmakers have been voicing their concerns about President Biden since Thursday night's debate.
Now, some of those are making those concerns public.
Michigan Congresswoman Debbie Jingle says one interview isn't going to fix this.
But the performance on the debate stage, I think rightfully raised questions among the American people about whether the president has the
vigor to defeat Donald Trump.
I was so moved by that evening that the next morning I was out to talk on the floor of
Congress with our leadership and with as many of my colleagues as I could find to express
the view that it was time for a replacement and for President Biden to step aside.
And if you stay in and Trump is elected and everything you're warning about comes to pass,
how will you feel in January?
I feel as long as I gave it my all and I did the goodest challenge.
I know I can do. That's what this is about. Is that what it's about? Is that answer
satisfying to you? No, that is the answer that most concerned me as well. This is not just
about whether he gave it the best college try. Coming home to Texas this weekend, I would say
that the input from my constituents has been 10 to 1 in favor of replacing President Biden
on the ticket. I think it's a legitimate question to say, is this an episode or is this
a condition. Joe Biden is running against a criminal. It should not be even close. And there's only
one reason it is close. And that's the president's age. That little compilation that you all just
watched is infuriating Joe Biden. So much so that he's now essentially putting out a letter
telling his detractors within the Democratic Party to STFU. All right, because he's not getting
out of the race. Now we're going to give you some excerpts from that letter in just a moment.
But before we do, Jank, you have some pretty big name Democrats in that compilation, including
you know, Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, really questioning the capability of Biden to continue
running in this election and eventually beating Donald Trump.
Yeah, but we're in purgatory here because over the weekend I did a live video about
how Adam Schiff and the others had turned and those are big establishment names.
It's not like there's progressives turning out.
I mean, in fact, the progressives have held with them longer than anyone.
and more solid than anyone.
I don't know that that's the right thing to do, but that's been what's happening.
So it's interesting that some of the Democratic establishment all on the precipice of
throwing Biden overboard, including Clyde Burns saying we should do a convention, et cetera.
Now, having said that, there's only a handful of congressmen that have actually come out
and said, yeah, he should step down.
And those major figures have not.
And this is critical, Anna, because during the interview with Stephanopoulos, he said,
well look, you know, I hear people that are complaining that are in media or donors or something,
but who cares about them?
None of the Democratic politicians have come to me and said that they have a problem.
I mean, so if they don't have a problem, then what's the issue?
Look, to be fair, you know, you have Democratic leadership like Nancy Pelosi asking questions.
You don't see Democratic leadership making declarative statements about how they believe that Biden should step down.
There has been a handful of elected Democratic lawmakers who have in fact put out public statements.
They've done interviews on television urging Biden to step aside and allow for someone more competitive to run against Donald Trump.
But he remains defiant. And the letter makes that clear. Before we get to that, though, I do want to just quickly talk about leadership in the House because House Speaker, well, you know, Hakeem Jeffries, who would be House Speaker if Democrats had to
control of the house, it has been holding these private meetings with Democrats, right?
And during these private meetings, he's trying to kind of feel the temperature in the room
and figure out what his own feelings are about this whole incident or this whole situation.
Profile and courage.
Profile and courage, exactly, right?
We're being sarcastic here.
Now, during a private call on Sunday, at least four more Democrats, including Representative
Jerry Nadler of New York, Representative Jim Himes of Connecticut,
Representative Adam Smith of Washington State and Representative Mark Takano of California
privately said that Biden should step down.
Today, Adam Smith, I noticed, had put out a statement publicly on social media as well.
Nadler as one of the more senior ranking members on that call was the first person to speak
up and say that Biden should step aside.
And he did so knowing that his seniority might actually inspire Democratic leadership to maybe
grow a set and do the right thing. So far we have not seen that from Democratic leadership.
But there are other members of the, you know, Democratic Party who do not want Biden to step
aside. The Congressional Black Caucus apparently is backing Biden no matter what. So we'll get to
some details on that in just a moment. But in regard to the new Democrats who have come forward
and said, no, Biden should step aside. What do you think about that?
Yeah. So strange bad fellows here, because this does not break down based on
based on progressive establishment lines, this breaks down based on who wants to win and who doesn't care.
So Adam Smith is a conservative Democrat, Jim Himes is a conservative Democrat,
so they agree with us that Biden should step down. Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders still,
Rokana, et cetera, AOC, all sticking with Biden, but also some of the big names like Hakeem
Jeffries, one of the most corporate Democrats there are. So it's an interesting set of
alliances that we don't normally see congressional black caucus. The Biden team is leaning in
to black voters and black leaders for two reasons. Number one, that is the only place left
where he still has a lead. So yes, Trump is taking away a lot of his lead with black voters,
but he still has a comfortable lead there. He does not with Latinos anymore, not with young
people, not with progressives, not with almost anyone except black voters. So he's going to seek solace
there, right? And then, but the second thing that it does is it gives him that identity politics
shield. Oh, are you saying you're against black voters? Are you saying you're against the
congressional black caucus? And that's why he's using that as a trick. And leaders like Akeem
Jeffries are happy to help him do that because they're cowards and don't want to take the necessary
steps to win. Plus, he doesn't really care about winning. He just cares about maintaining his own
power and that is connected in some ways to Joe Biden.
I mean, how do you maintain your power when you're about to lose a general election?
I mean, and he, by the way, I mean, the George Stephanopoulos interview also made it abundantly
clear that Biden is in denial about how he's performing in the polls.
And by the way, one of the reasons that he's in denial is because Hakeem Jeffries,
Chuck Schumer and others won't go to the White House and go, brother, you gotta go.
This is now we're in landslide territory.
You're losing three non-swing states.
Now we're worried you're going to lose Minnesota, New Mexico, Virginia, New Hampshire, right?
But it'll be okay as long as he gives it his all.
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I want to say one more thing that's important here.
I invite any national democratic politician who thinks Biden should stay in the race to come on the young Turks and defend them.
And the reason I say that, guys, is not because, oh, my God, they would be a tough interview, it would, and that would be interesting.
No, because literally none of these people are saying Biden's got to go or what do you mean?
He's great, I'll defend him.
They're in purgatory.
And so they're just sitting there being politicians with their finger in the wind.
Which way is it blowing?
Which way is it?
We need one more poll.
We need one more interview.
We're so scared.
We're scared of our own shadow.
But also another giant thing here, they're also scared of their own voters because they
created a Frankenstein of Blue Maga.
And now Blue Maga is furious at any politician who says that Biden should step down.
And just like Red Maga, this is their own creation.
and now they're having to deal with it.
So I put that challenge out there.
I doubt any of them will take it because they know Biden is not the right candidate.
That's why they won't defend him in public.
Not on this show, not on any show.
Well, the Democratic Party also created another monster, right,
in that they have been trading in the politics of fear for how long now.
And so the main talking point that you've heard from the Democratic Party for years now
is you must elect us because Trump is a huge threat to our democracy.
So you have both Democratic voters and some members of the Democratic Party panicking because
they have completely bought that line.
But the way that the Biden administration or the Biden campaign is acting, you would think
that they don't even believe their own message about democracy being under threat.
Now I do want to go to the letter that Biden sent to, well, he made it public, he posted
it on social media on X, formerly known as Twitter.
But it was a message, a clear message to the Democratic lawmakers who have been calling on him
to step aside.
And he writes, Biden wrote that the question of how to move forward has been well aired for
over a week now, and it's time for it to end.
In other words, please stop talking about this.
This is making me look bad, I'd like to move on and not have to discuss it anymore.
He stressed that the party has one job, which is to defeat presumptive Republican presidential
nominee Donald Trump in November.
Yeah, yeah, I think the party knows that, which is why there are now many people in the party
asking you to step down, but he wants those calls to be silenced.
He says, quote, I wouldn't be running again if I did not absolutely believe I was the best
person to beat Donald Trump in 2024.
I would like to believe that I look like a supermodel, okay, that I'm the most beautiful
woman on the planet.
But you have to be honest with yourself and accept what your weaknesses and flaws are.
I do not look like a supermodel.
Joe Biden is not the best candidate to beat Donald Trump.
He is absolutely delusional about this.
I would have gone with a different analogy.
I don't look like a supermodel.
I don't look like a supermodel.
Okay, but anyways, but I just wanted to make one quick point on that.
It's a letter.
The fact that it's a letter and Joe Biden not talking directly to the Congress people
is already a giant clue that he's not well.
Anybody could write that letter.
Joe Biden didn't write that letter.
His handlers wrote that letter, right?
And you write a letter when you can't do it in person and you're afraid to take questions
even from Democratic congressman.
Finally, I have one more excerpt that I wanted to read to you all.
He writes, or his handlers write, we have 42 days to the Democratic convention and
119 days to the general election.
Any weakening of resolve or lack of clarity about the task ahead only helps Trump and hurts
us.
It's time to come together, move forward as a unified party, and defeat Donald Trump.
Well, I actually see this very differently.
When he notes how close we are to the Democratic convention, how close we are to a
election day. All I can think about is how his obsession with maintaining power, okay, his
selfishness is literally robbing a better candidate of more time to campaign against Donald
Trump, thus increasing the chances of the Democratic Party beating Donald Trump. Like, think
about that. Every single day that Biden refuses to drop out of the race is a day that he
is robbing from a better political candidate that would go up against Donald Trump.
Trump would potentially win.
By the way, he could also, and you might have heard this in a lot of places, and I want to
make sure you have the reality on it.
He can also take all the money he's already raised and give it to a super PAC.
But get a load of this, the people who gave money to Biden can then double up and give money
to the new candidate.
So the super PAC can use it on behalf of the candidate, and then they could double up their
money.
I hate money in politics, I don't think any of these should be the rules, but if Biden drops
out, all those maxes are gone. They re-max to the new candidate. That's amazing. Right.
So it's actually a big advantage. So what you're hearing a lot of people saying like,
oh, only Kamala Harrisky get that money, et cetera. She might actually be at a slight disadvantage.
She might be the only person not being able to double up on those campaign contributions.
So I want you to know that too. And then final word for me goes to one of our members
because he's thinking along the same lines that I was. So this is from our website, t.com.
if you want to sign up and be part of the show like this, t.yt.com slash team.
We'll have the link in the description box.
Loaded ego says, Biden can't stand up to Democrat, can stand up to Democrats, but no one else.
And I was going to say something similar.
In the debate, he flops against Trump.
Can't say anything about the outrageous stuff that Trump said.
Trump says, oh, they're releasing people from mental institutions and bring them to the border.
That's not remotely true.
Just making that up.
There's a thousand things that he made up in the middle of debate, even on abortion.
Joe Biden was terrible.
Terrible on abortion.
And could not stand up to Trump when we needed him.
But when it's Democrats, all of a sudden, Joe Biden's a line and he's sending letters and he's doing this.
And how dare you?
And I'm, oh, yeah, are you guys racist?
I'm with a congressional black caucus.
And he's throwing every trick there is.
That's all he ever does is fight Democrats.
By the way, if you don't know his entire career, his whole thing is,
I make deals with Republicans.
So I'll fight my own party and so called compromise and give Mitch McConnell 90% of what he wants.
That's what he's known for in the Senate.
So here he goes again, not fighting Trump, but fighting the Democrats who are trying to beat Trump.
I do want to move on to what Biden did after he put out that letter.
So following Biden's decision to put out a letter and silence, Democratic lawmakers who are calling for him to step down from the race, he decided to go on his favorite morning show on MSNBC, Morning Joe, and I thought the conversation was pretty fascinating.
Let's take a look at some of what he had to say.
I wouldn't be running if I didn't absolutely believe that I am the best candidate to beat Donald Trump in 2024.
We had a democratic nominating process for the voters spoke clearly.
I want 14 million of those votes, et cetera.
So I just want I'm not only believe that from the beginning, but I wanted to reassert and demonstrate it as true.
And I'm going to be doing that all through this weekend from here on.
The topic came up of the Stephanopolis interview where you were asked the question.
And how would you feel if Donald Trump beat you?
How would you feel after you lost?
And you said, well, as long as I did the best I could do, that's the most important thing.
That's caused Democrats concerned who believe that losing is not an option.
What would you say to those who were concerned by that answer?
It's not an option.
And I've not lost.
I haven't lost.
I beat him last time.
I'll beat him this time.
But if you're experiencing significant mental decline, beating him four years ago looks very
different from being able to beat him today.
And he seems to be unwilling to accept that.
And by the way, in 2019 and 2020, when he was running in the primary, there were questions
about his mental state and whether he was experiencing cognitive decline.
It's only gotten worse since then.
But again, he has a difficult time accepting it.
I do want to just quickly go to the next video because it's interesting that he's now trying
to frame this as, oh, the elites are against me, the big names are against me, but I'm
out here looking out for the little people. Watch.
So you have repeatedly said that all of these people and entities are wrong, and let me go
through them, the New York Times editorial board, the Economist, the Atlanta Journal Constitution,
the Boston Globe, Jerry Nadler, Seth Moulton.
Let me go to Julian Castro, Tim Ryan, David Axelrod, David Remnick, Richard Haas.
Yeah, I know which one you're responding to there.
Zeke Emanuel, but they're saying that you should step aside.
So what is your plan of attack moving forward?
These are pretty big names.
And keep doing their big names, but I'm not, I don't care with those big names, Tim.
He doesn't care with those big names things.
So on one hand, Jank, he talks about like, oh, you know, Democratic leadership isn't telling me anything, right?
If they want to step to me, let them step to me.
But then you have like this giant list, okay, sure, it's not Democratic leadership, but you have, you know, quite a few Democratic lawmakers.
You have pretty big names in the media, and you have donors.
You have James Carville saying the donors should stop donating to the Democratic Party until Biden steps down.
Biden looks at all of that and he's like, I don't care.
I don't care about the big names.
Doesn't matter.
Isn't impacting me at all.
Okay, so which one is it?
Do you want people to tell you exactly what they think and step to you like you challenge them to do?
Or you're just going to ignore what they're saying?
I'll step to you, brother.
Okay, but I don't think you want that.
Well, I'm sure you don't.
So listen, two things about this.
Number one, the reason he gets most apoplectic about Axelron.
There's actually two reasons.
One, because Axelron is within the most inner circle of.
of the Democratic establishment.
So he views that as like a betrayal from the King's Guard, right?
The second reason is because Axelrod obviously speaks for Obama.
And the fact that we're just ignoring that 800 pound gorilla in the middle of the room is absurd, right?
And so, and Carville speaks for the Clintons.
That's another 800 pound gorilla right in the middle of the room.
And everybody's like, oh, I don't see it.
Do you not understand politics?
And the story is, according to all the insiders and all the reporting, that Obama talked
Biden out of running in 2016, and Biden has never forgiven Obama for that.
Oh yeah, 100% I was gonna bring that up.
And he thinks he would have won in 2016, et cetera.
So when he sees Axelrod saying that Biden should drop out, he's like, oh yeah, I remember
from 2016, I remember you got your way, man.
But brother, that was eight years ago.
It's, you know, this whole argument of he won four years ago, I can't stand how dumb that is,
when it's a person in mental decline, do you know how much four years makes a difference?
And we could all see what it's not like it's the same person.
It's like say, oh, well, the Patriots just won four years ago.
Yeah, they had Tom Brady.
They didn't have Randall Bob as their quarterback.
It makes a giant difference those four years.
So one more thing.
Biden in this conversation with Scarborough and Mika said that he was, you know,
he's not going to listen to the elites.
And then that enhance the talk of the big names.
Can I actually go to that clip because he literally contradicts himself in the same portion of the interview.
So pay close attention to what he's saying here. Let's watch.
The people that were supporting you yesterday compared to, say, a lot of the Washington insiders and Hollywood moguls and go down the list of very powerful people that want you out compared to the support that you had in Pennsylvania yesterday.
So what I did was I went out and I wanted to make sure that there wasn't any slippage at all.
And with the average voter, I don't care what the millionaire's saying.
And by the way, 97% of all the people who contribute to us or make people make it under 200,
contributing under 200 bucks.
I think we have the largest continuum ever in history.
I'm not positive of that, but I think that's true.
And so I want the support, but that's not the reason I'm running.
I'm not running about what they think and what they care about.
And by the way, you don't see a whole hell of a lot of clocking to Trump.
You don't see a whole lot of CEOs clocking to Trump.
You don't see any, you see the major economist out there talking about what I have been able to do.
I don't hear anybody talking about his economic plan likely to bring America around and keep America first.
Okay, so are the big donors or the big corporate executives and CEOs on your side or are they on Trump side?
Right?
Because he just, at the end of that, says they're not backing Trump.
And I'm like he's, I'm rejecting the elite that are, you know, trying to get me to step down from this race.
Like, which one is it?
And come on, he cares about the millionaire donors, billionaire donors.
They're the ones who fund his campaign overwhelmingly.
You're going to have me believe that most of his campaign is funded by small dollar donors.
I mean, Anna, you pointed out that privacy perfectly there because he says, I don't care about the billionaires.
Two sentences later, he's like, I don't see the CEO's going to him.
I still have the CEOs, what happened?
I thought you didn't care.
Well, it seems like you care a lot.
And it seems like you're bragging about how you have more of the elites on your side.
And so, but when any of the elites cross you, then all of a sudden, you're like,
oh, I'm not going to listen to the elites, brother, put it away, okay?
Maybe you and your handlers live in an alternate reality where you're regular Joe from Scranton.
But that pile of crap is gone.
No one believes that.
You've been in Washington for 70 years straight.
I'm doing hyperbole, I don't need to do hyperbole.
It's literally over 50 years that he's been in Congress and in the White House, etc.
So you're gonna tell us that you're not one of the elites after you were president,
vice president, and one of the most renowned senators in American history,
that your regular Joe from Scranton and you don't care about the billionaires,
after you've raised nearly a billion dollars from those same CEOs and billionaires,
And now you're not among the elites and the elites are against you?
What are you, a populist, Joe Biden?
I mean, look, again, the reason they say asinine, ridiculous things like that,
is because TV has trained their audience to believe theater, that he is actually Joe from Scranton.
Oh, golly gee, he takes the train.
So if you're an older Democratic voter that's been watching MSNBC for a couple of decades,
you're gonna think like, oh yeah, regular Joe's against the elites.
When in reality, he's number one elite in the country right now, very literally.
Not just because of he's president, but because of his entire history in Washington.
We gotta take a break, but when we come back, we're gonna switch gears briefly on the show and bring on a guest.
This individual, tragically, his uncle was kidnapped by Hamas on October 7th,
And he is one of the many members of the hostage families who are demanding that Netanyahu agree to a ceasefire.
So we've got a lot of questions to ask him.
It'll be a fascinating conversation.
We'll get to that and more when we come back from the break.
Don't miss it.
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Well, we're about to have a fantastic conversation.
It's been more than eight months since.
Hamas militants kidnapped Israeli hostages, many of whom remain held captive in Gaza.
The family members of those held captive have been protesting in Israel and protesting
Benjamin Netanyahu while urging him to agree to a ceasefire in order to free the remaining
hostages. One of those individuals joins us now. Zahiro Shahar Moore is a member of the
organization. We are all hostages. And tragically, his uncle remains held captive.
in Gaza. Zahiro, thank you so much for joining us today.
Thank you for having me. Just a small correction, my uncle, two days ago, it was nine months.
Nine months. Yes. I mean, I can't imagine what it's like to know that you have a family
member there. And it wasn't just your uncle at first. It was your uncle, his wife, and I believe
his daughter, who were initially kidnapped by Hamas. But his wife and daughter were eventually
freed. Can you talk a little bit about what happened in order to free his wife and
daughter? First of all, also his grandson, his only grandson, who is nine years old.
He was also kidnapped together with his grandma and his mom, my cousin. They all were freed
on the first installment of the hostage deal. But Abraham remained in captive. By the way,
they didn't know that abraham is being held hostage they assumed he was dead all during their
captivity only when they came back to israel they found out that abraham is in captivity in
Gaza so yeah the way we see it the first hostage deal was done a how should i say it is
of less important for the Hamas terrorists in their point of view.
The mothers, the kids, the elderly women.
And it was supposed to lead to a full deal, of course, to get all the hostages back,
but it didn't, it got exploded on day eight, I think, or something like that.
And ever since, there is no advancement, no, every step forward and the two steps back.
And we've came to the understanding that the Israeli administration does not put the hostages in its top priority at all.
And even sometimes we feel that the American administration is more committed to put to the hostages.
to eliminate the hostage situation, then there is where he wants.
So I don't think you're wrong in that perception, you know, I feel like the US government
tries to pressure Netanyahu by coming out kind of preemptively and arguing that he is definitely
considering, you know, the ceasefire deal. But it's always, you know, Netanyahu who comes out
afterwards and says, no, I never agree to anything, right? Like they, I don't know who's lying exactly
I feel that maybe the U.S. government is just trying to do that to pressure Netanyahu to agree to a ceasefire deal.
But I have to ask you, because this is something that I've been wondering from the very beginning of this war,
you know, knowing that you have a family member in Gaza right now, what is it like watching the IDF's, you know,
bombing campaign? I mean, I would, I don't know if I'd be able to eat or sleep because it's not just Palestinians who are suffering.
the results of that, it's also potentially the hostages as well.
Of course, of course.
By the way, the nine-year-old grandson of Abraham and when he was asked in a TV interview,
knowing what you know after spending so many days in Gaza,
what do you feel most about your grandfather's safety?
And without hesitation, he answered, the IDF bombing.
This is the number one dangerous.
over there. Wow. They're not only direct hit. You know, if the bombing will get near the
hostages, there is a risk that the capitals will, you know, panic and then decided they need
to split and kill the hostages. Yeah. This is the way, this is what we feel the most,
of course. Yeah. So you're first of all, I'm so sorry for the
that your families have to go through, not only because they're not getting to a ceasefire,
but for Hamas taking them in the first place, obviously. And so let me ask you about the
objectives that Nanyahu claims he has. He says that he will not agree to any ceasefire
that doesn't allow him to keep fighting until Hamas's military and governing abilities are ended
in Gaza, but I don't know how anybody would be able to determine if their governing ability
is ended in in Gaza. Do you think that that is an achievable objective? Or do you think that
he's putting a purposely unachievable objective out there so that the war continues
so that he doesn't have to call a new election? Unfortunately, I believe that the latter
He's fighting for his political life.
He will do anything, anything, and he does anything,
and he's sabotaging the hostage deal time and time again.
And he's, you know, using all the tricks that he knows
and some of them even invents on the fly.
We can see it, you know, he's pro some objective,
and then he talks to anonymously,
talks to the media, to sabotage its own initiatives.
And it's been going on.
So I think this is the sixth cycle of talks,
getting somewhere close to reaching an agreement,
and then the Israeli government just,
Either, you know, no, do something military or political to sabotage it.
Do you think, there's also military way?
So there's, there's Netanyahu's desire to maintain political power.
That I feel is pretty obvious, but I'm curious what you think about the members of the Israeli
government who are even further to the right.
I'm talking about, you know, It Tamar Ben-Govir or Basel Smotrich.
Do you feel that they have an outsized influence over the decision making that Netanyahu is, you know, agreeing to or not agreeing to?
Of course, of course.
They hold his government by the throat and he does whatever these, the fundamentalists, extremist right wing, sometimes, you know, lunatics, really.
They're on the verge of fascists and sometimes way over this verge, and they are holding the Israeli government by the throat.
And they are talking about resettling Gaza.
They are talking about really horrendous things.
And the majority of people in Israel can't stand this way of thinking.
But unfortunately, it is one of the most important parts of the government currently.
You know, Zahir, I just want to say thank you to you because you are doing something that I know comes at a cost to you.
You have been arrested while protesting.
You know, I know that there have been other Israelis who have spoken out and they have been condemned.
condemned, they have been attacked for speaking out.
Can you talk a little bit about what it is like to be someone who is willing to be part
of an organization that's protesting the current Israeli government right now?
Aside from being arrested, what is it like?
What is, how do other Israelis who are not part of the government, how do they react to
the protesters?
Are they overall supportive or do they also condemn the protesters, much like the government
does?
Much like in real life, the overwhelming majority shows support, a lot of support.
We get myself personally and my friends that work together with me.
We get a lot of public support.
People stop us in the streets and hug us on a daily basis and really overwhelming support.
There is, unfortunately, very small but very, very loud and aggressive,
minority that tries to pour its hatred over every situation.
I get threats, I get, my kid is being harassed at school, you know, it's, it, it, I don't care.
It won't change my way.
I know what I need to do in order to, you know, do the best I can to, to help get my uncle and
119 others, every one of them is, you know, a world within itself.
And we need them back.
And we know for a fact that the deal exists, it exists ever since October 8th.
And the deal practically stayed the same.
The only thing, the thing is that the Israeli government is getting further away from, from this deal.
from yeah and and you know putting the spokes in the wheel of of the negotiation time and time again
and the hostages have no time yeah my uncle is 79 years old yeah every day that passes by
his chances of getting back in one piece and you know in good health and in good mental
health is material slimmer by the day yeah so again zero the you
You're stuck between Hamas and Israeli extremists.
And I feel like you represent a lot of Israelis.
We are all those two kids.
Yeah, that feel like hostages of both sides in a sense.
But let's talk one last thing about when this could possibly end.
Because yeah, Ben Gavir and Smokrish say we'll leave the government.
If they do, they'll have to have elections.
But Yerlipid, who's on the left and opposed to Netanyahu says, no, you don't
have to worry about Smotrich and Ben Gavir.
I'll come into the government.
So this whole idea of the government.
it must suspend is not true, but Netanyahu side says, yeah, but I'll lose a little bit of leverage
because I can't trust the left as much as I could trust extremist right wingers. I mean, now we're
talking about a fraction of Netanyahu's political chances that are preventing you guys from getting
your family members back, right? It's not even like, hey, there's definitely going to be an election
and he's definitely going to lose. No, there's not going to be an election, at least for a while
when Lepid can replace those.
Now though, people are speculating even though you definitively have a deal now,
Hamasa said yes, America said yes, everybody said yes, except Nanyahu.
The theory is that he might wait till the end of July, and then at that point,
when Knesset is in recess, have more leverage to make the deal.
First of all, how agonizing is it to wait that time as your family member still being
held by Hamas. And number two, if it doesn't happen at that point, what happens next?
Because at that point, that means there's just no hope left for getting this deal done.
Yeah, this is this is our last chance.
Unfortunately, people are getting, you know, not getting any healthier when they stay in the subterranean havens.
for such a long time.
But what I do,
I do believe Netanyahu is not going to do anything,
anything until he visits the U.S.
And until he has his grand show on the Congress
with standing ovation as he probably wishes.
And this will happen on July 24th.
I'm afraid nothing will happen until July 24th,
because this is what's important to Netanyahu,
the facade, the show, the venues.
He's not interested in solving hostage problems.
He's interested in getting applause from the US Congress.
This is why myself together with a group of activists
are coming to D.C., to report,
to speak our voice out to should do.
We are not our government.
The overwhelming majority of people in Israel do not support this kind of both.
You know, thank you for the message that you're spreading.
I think that it's an important message not only for what you're trying to accomplish for your own family,
but also for the future of Israel.
You know, I don't think that Netanyahu is leading Israel in the right direction.
And I think you're also correct about what he's hoping to receive once he's here in the
United States to speak before a joint session of Congress.
You know, I appreciate you coming on the show.
I would love for you to come back on again and give us some updates.
So please reach out anytime and thank you for the work you're doing.
We really appreciate it.
And thank you for sticking out for your family.
Thank you, thank you very much. I appreciate it.
And by the way, also all reasonable Israeli citizens.
People need to know how many people in Israel also want this war to end.
So thank you again, brother.
Well, thank you.
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well, has been visiting Joe Biden's White House.
We've just learned about it today.
What is the fallout?
What does Karin Jean-Pierre have to say about it all?
There was a testy press conference today that we'll give you some video of.
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So Ryan Noble is reporting on X.
Representative AOC tells us she spoke with President Biden over the weekend and it's time to end the speculation over his future.
quote, Joe Biden is our nominee. He is not leaving this race. He is in this race and I support
him. There's more. There's more. Now, what I think is critically important right now is that we
focus on what it takes to win in November because he is running against Donald Trump.
Everybody would be running against Donald Trump. They make it seem like Joe Biden is the only
who gets to run against Donald Trump.
You know, a generic Democrat that will start with 10 points higher lead is also running
against Trump, except would be 10 points higher.
So look, progressives are sticking with Biden more than establishment Democrats are.
It doesn't matter, you'll get blamed anyway at the end of the election.
Well, why?
Why are they doing it?
Because I think that they don't know strategy at all.
They're just flummoxed by strategy.
If you tell AOC strategies, you're like, how dare you?
Okay, so I look, she doesn't, first of all, she should have never given him the endorsement in the first place.
She should have used it as leverage to get something, anything.
How about something as simple as paid family leave that polls at 84%.
At least have him pressure Schumer to introduce it in the Senate.
These are layups, but they hate using their leverage.
And I'm sorry, I love Bernie, but it starts with Bernie.
He never, ever uses his leverage, right?
Instead, they'll go, oh, here, have it, have it, have it.
And then what happens?
You think that helps?
The minute they get a chance, they're going to bury you anyway.
If you're not sure, call Jamal Bowman and see how it turned out for him.
So this is a terrible strategy of stick with Biden to the end.
Then the progressives look like they're the ones that are holding on to a incompetent guy
who's going to lose to Donald Trump.
Why would you do that?
The establishment Democrats are the losers who don't know how to govern this party.
This is what progressive should be saying at the top of their lungs.
We told you not about Biden, not to just rub it in.
No guys, strategically.
We told you when they picked the establishment leader in 2016, Hillary Clinton,
and they pretended they knew what they were doing,
that they didn't know anything.
And they lost to a buffoon named Donald Trump.
And we told you that Joe Biden was not the right guy in 2024,
and we were right again.
But instead of being right, instead of taking the victory,
she's finding a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
I don't understand how anyone can just ignore what the data is telling us about Biden's chances
of beating Donald Trump.
It's like they're just ignoring all of that.
No, anyone, this is a stone cold fact.
He's, look, Nate Silver is screaming this at the top of his lungs just like I am, because
we understand numbers.
We've been doing, we've been in politics for 25 to 30 years.
No, get this through your heads, no incumbent in the 40s.
is likely to win an election.
They are very, very unlikely if they're in the 40s.
No incumbent in the 30s in an election year has ever won, ever in American history.
So even if it was like, oh my God, we got Andy Bashir and he's like, maybe we don't agree
with all of his policies, but my God, he's won as a Democrat twice in Kentucky and he's got
these super popular things.
Even he would struggle to make up this kind of a deficit, okay?
Even the most dynamic greatest Democrat or any politician would struggle to make up this kind of deficit.
But Biden's going to, he's going to stabilize, then make up 16 points in approval.
He was at 52 when he barely won.
He's at 36 now.
Do you understand politics at all?
And I'm sorry, but progressives in Congress demonstrate every single day that they do not understand politics.
That is correct.
I totally agree with you on that.
Now, AOC aside, earlier in the show, we were talking about Hakeem.
Jeffries, how he was basically keeping his powder dry until he kind of felt the temperature
in the room to figure out where most elected Democrats stand on the issue of Biden potentially
stepping down from this race. Well, he has now come out with a statement and he's sharing
what he thinks about Biden remaining in the race. Let's watch.
Do you support Joe Biden staying as your Democratic nominee?
Yes, I made clear the day after the debate publicly that I support President Joe Biden.
in a Democratic ticket, my position has not changed.
So it seems like, for the most part, the Democratic Party is listening to Biden.
I mean, he put out this letter.
Totally pathetic.
He put out this letter basically telling elected lawmakers who are telling him to step down
that they need to shut up and fall in line.
And they are because they're cowards.
Let's call a spade of spade, okay?
Let's call it what they are.
Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, total cowards.
Like, oh, what does the leader say?
We bow to you.
36%, you don't mind losing to Trump.
Every person right now that's saying Biden should be the nominee is saying,
I don't care about losing to Trump at all.
Look, Biden said another lie in one of these interviews.
She said, oh, people doubted me in 2020.
That's not remotely true.
Okay, right, and oh, I was losing in 20?
No, you weren't.
And so even CNN did an analysis of it and showed it, because it's not complicated.
Anybody could look it up.
That's what I've been screaming for a year now.
You could look up any of these numbers.
So at this point in the race in 2020, at this exact time, Biden was up by nine points.
And he barely won with 44,000 votes in three swing states.
I know.
He was up by nine.
He's now down by three to six.
Do you understand that's impossible?
No, you don't.
That's the thing, if you're average layman, I don't blame you at all.
How are you supposed to know what's impossible, impossible in politics?
It's like saying, oh, can you unclog that toilet?
How do you know?
You're not a plumber, right?
I mean, I can figure it.
Okay, but this, but everyone who knows politics, Ezra Klein, David Axel, James Carville,
nay silver, myself, look, we don't agree on policy, but we all agree on numbers.
So everyone that's now saying it should be buying is saying, I would rather bow my head.
and obey a mad king then beat Donald Trump.
I don't care about that or I've been lying the whole time it did I don't think
democracy is on the line I think this is a totally unimportant election we're
gonna run an 81 year old whose brain fell out in the middle of a debate 80%
of the country thinks he's not mentally healthy enough to be president I
mean what kind of a moron would favor a guy that 80% of the country
says his brain's not working no you can't nobody can't
me that stupid. No, AOC and Hakeem Jeffries are not stupid. They're just cowards. And they just
bow their heads to leadership. And they don't care about this country. They don't care about
losing to Donald Trump. Hakeem Jeffries is leadership. He's democratic leadership. Of course he's
going to tell you to bow to leadership. He exactly. Anna, he is leadership. He's just, he's like,
oh, you should always bow to leadership. No matter how bad a decision they make, no matter how
much they're idiots and no matter how much they don't mind losing. So look, guys, last thing on this,
so I'm still absolutely positive that Biden's going to drop out. You know why? The Republicans are
smart. They ran one ad against Bob Casey saying, is Bob Casey lying to cover up Donald,
Joe Biden's dementia? And they showed clips of Joe Biden and then clips of Casey with Joe Biden.
That ad was so devastating. That ad alone almost knocked Biden out. Then they said,
stop the ads immediately. They're like, oh, shish, shish, be cool, be cool. Once, if Joe Biden is
the actual nominee and he gets past the convention, they're going to obliterate the Democratic
Party with those ads. They're going to put Biden with every single member of Congress,
including AOC and Akeem Jeffries. They're going to put them with every senator. They're
going to say, when did they know? And who knew and when did they know it? And what have
they done about it? Have they lied to you? Because Joe Biden's definitely lying
you. Eight out of ten Americans already think Joe Biden's lying to them.
So now when you go and bear hug Joe Biden, you go, oh, I'm with the liar.
And then your main point in this election is that Donald Trump is the liar, which was a terrific point until you started doing this spectacular, gigantic lie in the middle of the campaign.
And now 80% of Americans don't believe a goddamn word you say.
Yeah, that's also part of this conversation that I don't think is emphasized enough.
the way voters feel about being lied to, about Biden's mental state, about his ability to run
and beat Donald Trump. The thing that keeps coming up is how betrayed voters feel. And to have
honestly, a progressive of all people come in and run interference for Biden is so incredibly
disappointing. And by the way, this comes on the same day that the New York Times put out
a report regarding a Parkinson's expert that visited Joe Biden eight separate times within
eight months. Yeah, we'll get to that in this second. But last thing here, I'm extra disappointed
because number one, I desperately want to beat Donald Trump. He did a coup attempt. We cannot have
him get back in office. And, you know, I thought at least Democrats wanted to win for their own
power. But it turns out Democrats don't mind losing at all, at all. Okay, so that's the
normal disappointment that all Democrats have, no matter where you are on the political spectrum.
But I have the double disappointment of we, and when I say we, young Turks audience gave
$2.5 million to just Democrats in that first cycle. You guys are American heroes. You got,
you brought us hope out of no hope. And it wasn't just Young Turks, Saudi. And so many other
people tried to help, and they did help towards that miraculous victory that AOC had.
And now to turn around, and instead of fighting the establishment, which was the whole point of Justice Democrats, which was the whole point of running against Joe Crowley, who is the number four Democrat in the House.
Instead of fighting the establishment, now you've become a cog in the machine of the establishment, helping them tell preposterous lies in order to hold on to power.
That is super disappointing.
When we come back from the break, I want to give you that New York Times story about the Parkinson's Excery.
And I also want to show you some videos of how Karene Jean-Pierre handled questions,
legitimate questions from reporters on that very topic.
Don't miss it.
We'll be right back.