The Young Turks - Feckless Snowflakes

Episode Date: November 30, 2022

As the railroad strike deadline ends, President Biden is asking congress to intervene. Kanye West stormed out of an interview after pushback from the interviewer over his Jewish-hate spiral. Republicans are continuing to board the dump Trump train after his dinner with racist anti-semites. The former president is very upset that his judge won’t give him special treatment. An “anti-grooming” candidate was fired from her teaching position. Host: Ana Kasparian, Cenk Uygur Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're going to the round of 16th. Okay, so it's not a sports show, but I do want to say USA, USA. Okay, so having said that, now let's do the news. Well, we begin with some bad news coming from the Biden administration in response to a looming rail strike. So let's discuss. The Biden administration has called on Congress to intervene and stop a possible rail strike from occurring because it would hurt the economy and hurt his chances at re-election. Why do I say that?

Well, Biden had a very different take on a rail strike that took place in 1992. But before we get to that, here's what Biden said. I'm calling on Congress to pass legislation immediately to adopt the tentative agreement between railroad workers and operators without any modifications or delay to avert a potentially crippling national rail shutdown. Now that national rail shutdown would cost the economy $2 billion a day, and it would obviously hurt Biden's chances at getting reelected. I now take you to a tweet by more perfect union that shows you where Biden stood back when he didn't have reelection looming. In 1992, Senator Joe Biden voted against ending a major rail strike.

He argued that by intervening, Congress would be rewarding the railroad companies for years of bad things. negotiation. Yesterday, President Biden asked Congress to intervene to prevent a rail strike. And of course, Nancy Pelosi has already raised her hand and said, yes, sir, I will serve you. And more importantly, the corporate donors. And it's not just the rail employers here. Honestly, a monopolized industry, to say the least. You have two companies on each coast, essentially, in control of the entire market. But, you know, you have all of the, these other industries that are concerned about a rail strike leading to supply chain issues, which would, of course, hurt their bottom line. And so I'll give you more details on what Pelosi

said in just a moment. But, Jank, what are your thoughts? Yeah, so first, let's do the Establishment Democratic response to all of this. Like, oh, you progressives don't understand anything. Did you know that it'll cost the economy $2 billion a day if this happens? Yeah, we know, we know. They're like, The nuanced position is to immediately give the corporations what they want. Is it, is that the nuanced position? Let me flip it back on you. Did you know that Biden can force and Congress can force the companies to take the union position? That's right, yep.

They can force it either way. Yet no one in mainstream media talks about that. They don't say, hey, why isn't Biden forcing the companies to take the position instead of forcing the unions? No Democrat other than Bernie Sanders and, of course, progressives in the House. are bringing, making it an issue at all, establishment Democrats are like, of course you crush the unions and you help the corporations. What do you mean? They take it as such a given that their zombie followers have no idea, to be fair to them, to be fair to the zombies, they have never heard that in their entire lives. But they also don't care.

I mean, those who provide cover for corporate Democrats who screw over workers in this country while campaigning as warriors for workers, don't actually care about issues like this. They don't. They just don't. They're not impact. They think they're not impacted by it. In fact, if anything, they're probably concerned that a rail strike would lead to empty shelves during the holidays. Of course.

And I'm sure that that's true. But I guarantee you that both things are true. That the people who are establishment Democrats, they're brainwashed by corporate media. They have no idea what alternatives are. So right now, if there's an establishment Democrat watching, they're in the middle of Googling right now. Oh, there's no way that's true. These progressives are radicals. There's no way.

And then by the way, when you're done Googling, come back and find out that we're the ones that are actually telling you the truth. Okay. Yeah. So, okay, so why does Biden choose the companies? Because it's not a choice between do you put $2 billion hold on the economy every day or do you come out against the workers? No, there's a third choice. Come out against the company. And by the way, their position is not that far.

All the workers are saying is, just give us like three. They want four paid days off. That's all they want. They've been negotiating between three and four days off and the companies at one. So we're talking about a three-day difference, basically, right? So that's so easy to make the company do that. But no one in Washington would dare to even think of making a company do something. Whereas crushing the workers, that's Tuesday.

That's literally every day in Washington. Jenk, real quick, look, the reason why I say that those who provide cover for the bad behavior of corporate Democrats don't actually care about the workers here is because look at the demographics and how they have shifted in the voting base of the Democratic Party. Who do they represent, right? Who do they mostly consist of? and they're highly educated, mostly like upper middle class individuals, right? And these are people who are more concerned about ensuring that Republicans don't have any

power, which I share that concern, right? But at the same time, they're also concerned with ensuring that they provide the cover for Democrats, their holidays are nice and comfortable, they get access to whatever it is that they need to buy for gifts for friends and family. That's what they're concerned about. These are people who are so far removed from what the average worker has to deal with. They don't know what it's like to not get three or four days off for a medical emergency, a family emergency.

I mean, it is insane. Some of these workers don't get a single day off, paid day off if they get sick. I'll give you examples. Tony Caldwell, president of the brotherhood of maintenance of way employees, one of the unions that voted down the agreement that had been agreed upon, between the White House and the employers here, said his members will not ratify a deal unless it includes more expansive sick leave benefits. The union is asking for four paid sick days and has not been offered any, any. We're talking about four freaking days out of the year.

In the latest negotiations last week, the rail carriers stated that they were unwilling to negotiate over sick days, Caldwell said. This country treats its workers, This country treats its workers, treats its people as if it is an undeveloped, third world authoritarian country. That's how workers are treated in certain industries. And that is certainly the case when it comes to rail workers. Okay, again, it is a monopolized industry where on both coasts, there are only two companies, two rail companies that control everything.

And so if their service sucks, what are people supposed to do? What are companies supposed to do when they need to move product across the country? What are they supposed to do? They have no choice. And over the last few years, these companies have all already been cutting their workforce significantly because, hey, labor, they might need them, but labor also happens to be expensive. And they really need to cut cost to maximize profits, right? They got to pay dividends. They got to do corporate stock buybacks. And if having a tiny

workforce is not enough to ensure that service is smooth, who cares? It's not like you've got any other options. And that's why these workers are being overworked. And that's why these workers are not being given the minimal time off that they're asking for. Because they're expected to work overtime. They're expected to make up for the fact that these companies intentionally cut their workforce because they wanted to save on money that they were paying on salaries. Because instead of paying salaries, they could use that money to do the dividends and to do the corporate stock buybacks. That is how the sausage is made in this country. And people like Joe Biden, goons like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who love that corporate cash flowing into their

coffers, they will always provide cover for these corporations, for these greedy, disgusting companies that treat their workers like garbage. That's who Nancy Pelosi is. That's who Nancy Pelosi is. She'll go up there, she'll talk on podium, talking about how she cares about the children, I care about the children, I care about these people. You don't care about anyone other than yourself, okay? The mansion you live in in northern California, I mean, the insider trading you engage in on a regular basis. That's where Nancy Pelosi is. The Democratic Party, mainstream Democratic Party, does not represent workers in this country. They used to, in times past, they don't anymore. And then they wonder why young progressives don't like them.

Yeah. And of course, again, if you listen to mainstream media, you wouldn't have heard None of that. When Pelosi announces she was stepping down from leadership, every article was master legislator, the greatest, one of the greatest legislators of them all time. What an incredible working class democratic hero. Absurd. She took over a billion dollars in large money donations.

She serves large money. Yep. That's 100%. Okay, now in this case, last two things here. Number one, the union should do something very simple, just as a matter of it, at a minimum, as rhetorical framing. Hey, you know what? The companies are making some interesting points. Why don't we just take the same number of sick days as the executives have?

What, what, what, why did the executives get two weeks, four weeks, and we're allowed zero days? Now, look, if you're asking me in reality, is that a little apples and oranges? Yeah, it's a little apples and oranges, right? But rhetorically, it's fantastic. And it sets up this incredible contrast. Wait, why does an executive get three and a half weeks off and then worker gets zero days off? That doesn't make any sense at all, right? And it starts to focus the frustration on the executives as opposed to the workers, right?

But that's why you'll never see it in mainstream media because the executives are the oligarchs. And so everything is structured around serving corporate executives. By the way, they could do that on other issues too. hey look you know what I know profits are way up for the railroad companies they made 20 billion in profits recently so that's great news for everybody so well you know what workers are going to be reasonable we'll take the same percentage increase that the executives are getting what what what you guys have a problem with that why do you have a problem with that that puts the onus on the executives to justify it right but you'll never see that anywhere in media and

by the way that leads to the last point you also oftentimes will not see that from union leadership. What do you see from union leadership? Surrender after surrender after surrender. When Biden says, no, let's go force the workers instead of the executives to take the deal. All union leadership should be up in arms and they should be furious. Have you seen fury? I haven't seen fury. What I see all the time from union leadership is, oh no, we got to take, we got to take whatever the executives off for us and the corporations off for us and the Democratic party. You can't ask for anything. You just have to do whatever they take. tell you, why? Why? Why are you giving them millions? Corporations give them millions of dollars

and they get everything they want. Union leadership gives them millions of dollars and gets a door slam in their face and go, oh, you're just such a great job. Did you? Did you? There's tons of discontent from people that are in unions with union leadership. Final thing I'll say, and I'm skeptical about this and I want to be clear. But if this were to happen, it would certainly help the Republican Party outflank Democrats in terms of being further to the left on protecting workers. Senator John Cornyn tells reporters that he thinks there could be substantial. Republican support for Bernie Sanders' amendment to give rail workers more paid sick leave. He's also suggesting it could possibly pass. Schumer responded to this by saying, we're working with

McConnell to try to get something done and avoid a shutdown. So look, I don't know. If, you know, there really is Republican support in stepping in to protect the workers here, I'm skeptical considering the history that we've seen with Republicans looking out for corporations, certainly far more than Democrats had. But we'll see, we'll see what happens. Yeah, so two things about that, Anna, because that's late breaking. So number one, Josh Hawley is trying to make an end run, populist end run around the Democrats. He on issues like this is going more pro workers.

By the way, all politicians should be pro workers if we lived in an actual democracy. Because workers are where all the votes are, right? But they serve the rich because of our legalized bribery in this system. But can Republicans from time to time, even if they don't mean it, score giant rhetorical wins at the last second by going, hey, we're with the workers. Oh, the Democrats sold you out? Now, the Republicans are going to sell you out anyway, right? But at least they're smart enough to play that rhetorical trick.

Right. And then corrupt idiot Democrats get left holding the bag going, oh, we're the elitist party that is anti-worker. Oops. But oh, that's okay. We'll just get the mainstream media. Hey, CNN, New York Times, go out there and tell people how great we are. That act is wearing thin, man. I know you guys don't get it.

You live in your bubble in New York and D.C. And you think you have this whole thing figured out. Polls have mainstream media polling at 7%. The country despises you and thinks your lies are full of course. crap. And it's, you have to read 24 articles before you find out one that says, oh, by the way, they could force the companies to take a deal just as much as they could force the workers to take a deal. Yeah. And when it comes to anything having to do with labor, do not rely on corporate press. Labor notes. They will lie to you. They will. They will. They'll either lie to you or they'll

withhold information from you. Yeah, it's lying by omission. A hundred percent. It's all in the framing. If you're watching somebody on cable news, they're almost third. certainly lying to you. All right, let's move on to the break because the next story has a billion videos in it. It is yes, the Kanye West appearance on Tim Poole show. We've got a lot of thoughts about it, a lot of highlights or low lights to share with you. Stick around. We'll be back with that and more. All right, back on TYT, Jank and Anna with you guys. Anna told me not to encourage her, but Lizetta did write in in the YouTube member section,

Go Off Salt Queen. So there's someone encouraging her, okay. Thank you for that. All right. But you don't want me to go off. I don't, I don't know about them, they might want it. Okay, all right. Anyway, let's get to.

Let's get to Tim Toole, let's go. What do you mean it's not? What do I mean like, okay, so how about, are you leaving? Are you afraid of the press? He's gone. Tim Pool hosting notorious anti-Semites and racist like Kanye West and Nick Fuentes wasn't the win that he was hoping it would be. Kanye walked out of the show after Tim Pool barely.

barely pushed back, kind of, on some of his anti-Semitism. But he also spent some time sucking up to his hateful dwebes, and I want to give you some examples of that. So why don't we take a look at the first video? Before the show, obviously, I'm getting a bunch of messages from people, and people are hitting me up, and they're like, you shouldn't host them. They're anti-Semitic, they're right supremacists, they're racist. I do find the idea, I do find it funny or weird, whatever, that, Nick, they call you a white supremacist you're here working with or for, you know, one of the most powerful black men, one of the wealthiest and was famous. But a lot of people are saying

on the right, specifically, don't platform them. And I said, well, I want to, I want to understand what they're thinking and why they're thinking it. They're part of, they're involved in what may be the biggest news story of the past week. And we have an opportunity to sit down and talk. Because the red media controls both sides. It just said it as simple as possible. Jerry Kushner was next to Trump. Ron Emmanuel was next to Obama. So I just wanted to play that first to give you a sense of what Tim Poole's pushback, what his challenging questions sound like. You know, challenging comments at like, you know, Nick, I mean, I can't believe people

call you racist. I mean, you're advising Kanye West. I mean, would a racist do that? Good job, laundering the reputation of a well-known anti-Semite and racist. Good job. You did a great job there. Fantastic. So Forintus is over the top racist. We showed you clips yesterday on the show. I can't do it justice. But I mean, among the things he said is the military should occupy

black parts of town. Blacks can't rule themselves. They're inferior. It goes on and on. I mean, he's not subtle. There's no code words. He's just a flat out, outright racist, white supremacist. It's not within bounds. And then what does Tim Poole do? He's said, well, I mean, you're working with a black man who also thinks, wears White Lives Matter shirts, says, like, is an infinitely stupid man who's mentally ill pushing white supremacist's agenda. So you found a lackey to do the same, say the same things you are while being black. And Tim Poole launders that to, well, obviously, you're not racist, Fuentes. Some of your best friends are black, right? Yeah. And by the way, when he said that Fuentes' face was funny, he's like, oh, of course you're not racist. He's like, he seemed

offended that he was being called not racist. Now later, Poole tells Kanye that he feels the corporate press has been incredibly unfair to him. But apparently that level of ass kissing wasn't enough for Kanye. So why don't we take a look at how that worked out for Tim Poole? I think they've been extremely unfair to you. Who is they though? We can't say they is, can we? I'm not using the, I don't use the word as the way I guess you guys use. I'm talking about it is them though, it. I mean, because when you think about it, consider it. In 2018. What do you mean it's not? What do I mean? Like, okay, so how about, are you leaving? Are you afraid of the press? He's gone. I'll say it right now. You guys want to bring that stuff up and then I think we're not going to have

conversation. Like you think he's going to come in here and say, here's my pain, here's my suffering. say, I hear you. And then he's going to say, and it was Jewish people. And I'm going to be like, okay, but don't you consider it. I'm not going to do this. I refuse. Make sure he's cool. All right, go for it. Luke and I will have a conversation. Okay, so, Jake, I know you've got a lot to say about that particular clip and the cowardice that's displayed there, the snowflake behavior that we see from Kanye who can't even, I mean, can't even handle like the lightest disagreement imaginable, okay? But what did you think was going to happened, Tim? Yeah, you idiot. I mean, did you think you were going to have an exchange of

ideas? And Kanye, who has a obvious mental health issue and has said obvious anti-Semitic things, you think the media's been unfair to him? What exactly? I want to know, Tim. I really want Tim to answer this question, okay? I want Tim to tell me what exactly a person needs to say, verbalize for you to admit or agree that that's anti-Semitic. On two different occasions, in the 20 minutes that Kanye West was on the show, he repeated, you know, Jared Kushner right next to Donald Trump, Rahm Emanuel right next to Obama. See, they're being controlled by Jewish people, right? Like, that's what he's trying to say. He said that twice in the 20 minutes that he was.

What exactly does he need to say, Tim? Tell me. Tell me what he needs. needs to say. Because it's not coded. He's not coding. No, not at all. In the old days, I have a quote in my upcoming book from Lee Atwater about this. He's like, we used to say the N-word and then it became politically damaging. So we started using code words. And he explained the different layers of the code words. Now Trump and Kanye and others have taken the code words away. Nick Pointess doesn't use any code words. He just says they're inferior, we're superior. We should control them and lock them up, et cetera. Kanye doesn't use any code. He's like the Jews control the media, the Jews control everyone.

They control Trump, they control Obama. That is, look, that's the definition of anti-Semitism. Look, I mean, I don't know what you want to call a fascist, the Nazi, an anti-Semite. I don't know that there's giant distinctions there. And if you guys say, no, the distinction is no Nazis actually kill the Jews, whereas the anti-Semites and the fascist, like, they just fantasize about it. They just encourage others to kill the Jews. I don't know, I don't know what your distinction is.

is. But me, I don't have a distinction on that. I think Kanye West is a Nazi. So you invite, and Nick Fuentes is a Nazi. So you invited a couple of Nazis on your show. Tim, when you do that, you're supposed to rip their face off. And he looked genuinely surprised and hurt that Kanye was leaving. Yeah, 100%. Okay. He said, oh no, oh no, my star, the one that's giving me all this attention is leaving. Oh, what if the money leaves with him? Oh, my God. No. You bitch. Man up. Do a real goddamn interview, you loser. No, it is an insult to bitches to call Tim Poole a bitch. I'm just saying, okay?

The other thing that I'll just note is all we hear from right wingers, including Tim Poole, and yes, you piece of garbage, you're a right winger, you're a little grift of, I'm actually a centrist who provides cover for anti-Semites. Yeah, we're not buying it. But we can't go a day without hearing from right wingers, defaming innocent people as groomers, as pedophiles, as dangerous individuals. Whether we're talking about medical professionals, whether we're talking about educators, it's just endless, endless, endless nonstop defamation of innocent people.

But you invited someone who tried to make a case for pedophilia into your studio to have a nice delightful conversation. Milo Yanopoulos sitting right there, you didn't bother to ask a single question about his comments related to pedophilia, correct? Because you guys don't actually give a damn about pedophilia. The only time they care is when they can inaccurately label their political opponents, groomers or sexual predators for political brownie points. That's what they do. That's who they are. Milo was viciously racist and no one in the right wing minded at all.

That's not why he got driven from the right wing. He got driven from the right wing because he said that he didn't think there was anything wrong with older men like literally grooming younger boys for relationships. I mean, that's textbook pedophilia. So Tim Poole has maybe the, again, one of the most renowned groomers or pro-groomer advocate in the room with him. Doesn't ask a single question. Because they don't mind groomers. They love it. They're just the world's biggest hypocrites.

So, and by the way, if you notice, Tim Poole said, when Kanye was referring to Jewish people, he said, I don't use that. I don't use the word. He's like, in other words, I agree with you. on the press, I just don't use the word Jewish, because he's got to have plausible deniability. Anyway, I don't care if Tim Poole's an anti-Semite or not. I don't care. Okay, and by the way, I don't mind platforming as long as you actually hit him, right? Instead, he comes in, he's like, oh, the press has been so unfair to you. You're halfway up the Nazi's ass.

Is that the kind of interview you do? But I want to say one one thing about Kanye. I mean, you want to talk about bitches. So this guy, I mean, Tim Poole's sitting there, swobbering all over you. But because he wouldn't say the Jews did it, exactly when you demanded that he say it, you're that fragile? Yeah, he is. This guy walks around pretending to be a tough guy.

Oh, it's the Jews. I'm so strong and brave. Oh, it's the Jews. Hate, hate, hate, hate. I'm so strong in masking. My ass you are. You're the weakest bitch in America. The minute anybody criticizes you 1%, your hateful ass, all of a sudden, catches feelings.

Oh, my God, I have been offended. Look at what you're saying about Jewish people. And you think they shouldn't be offended. But you're offended because someone else wouldn't be as anti-Semitic as you are. And you think that gives you the right to walk away. Kanye, unbearable. I've never been more right than when I said, how many years ago now? Five years ago, that Kanye was the dumbest man in America.

Well, I mean, the other thing I'll say about Kanye, and it came up repeatedly, again, during the 20 minutes he was on the show. He kept talking about how he was debanked, how he was, and look, this is my speculation, but it seems like he hasn't paid his taxes. No, no, it's not speculation. He said it. Yeah, I mean, he said it, but he says all sorts of insane things, right? But he didn't say, I didn't pay my taxes. He talks about his bank accounts being frozen, because you haven't paid your taxes. You haven't paid your taxes.

That's not the so-called Jews coming after you. That's you thinking that you get to be treated completely differently from everyone else, that you get to dodge your taxes, not pay what you owe the federal government. And then when there are consequences, you get upset about it and then, you know, launch into some insane anti-Semitic conspiracy about your bank accounts being frozen. He talks about how, oh, they want to send me to jail. He thinks they want to, he claims they want to send him to jail over his comments. No, but he explained that he explained that he.

His accountant told him that he owes $50 million in taxes. Yeah, if you don't pay your taxes, ask Wesley Snipes. You go to jail, okay? That doesn't have anything to do with the Jews. That's due with you being a moron and a thief. Pay your goddamn taxes. Then you won't have to worry about any of this. He's like, oh, what, what, I have to pay taxes like the average man?

No, the average man should pay all of his taxes, even though he earns what? 1% of 1% of what I earn. We should take all that money from him, but I should be above the law and not pay. pay taxes. And if you try to make me pay taxes, it's the Jews. No, you moron, it's you. I hope you do wind up in jail. I pay my taxes. Why don't you pay him, huh? Goddamn criminal. All right, the other thing I really want to bring up is after Kanye had already walked out, Tim Pool told on himself, because apparently he was planning this conversation in a way that would have protected Kanye to some extent. And he discloses that. Let's take a look at what I mean, and then we'll discuss.

I said, this is going to be a big issue before the show. Obviously, people are going to bring up the questions of anti-Semitism. Why don't we talk about the news? I want to hear what happened with this meeting. I want to understand what Yay 24 is. And then we can do a longer conversation about any of that stuff. And Yay, literally in the first five minutes, says, no, I want to talk about a group of people and point to them. Whatever, man.

You want to know why, look, you're not going to sit here and you're going to walk out of the room. You're free to do so, man. But literally I said a couple sentences about, I don't think that's fair. Did I, did I insult the man? I just, I wanted you to promote your laughable presidential campaign. I want to talk about the news of the day with you. And then maybe later, maybe later we'll get to that whole anti-Semitic thing. Maybe.

Maybe I'll ask you about that. I mean, it's just, it's so obvious. Every one of these ghouls and goblins telling themselves not, Back to the IRS thing, Kanye said in that segment, he's like, I don't understand numbers. So they were telling me, you claim you're a genius and you don't understand numbers. Jenk, he used to think he was more like Malcolm X, but then he found out he's more like MLK. Oh, are you? Yeah.

Okay, I got news for you. You're more like a dumb ass. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Kanye is dumb. Okay, get it through your thick skull, Kanye. Everyone around you is an ass kisser who's looking to rob you of your money because they think this is the dumbest guy in America. It's so easy to take money from him. And none of them are Jewish.

It's all your best friends that are probably robbing you blind because they think this guy's so stupid. He can't, he doesn't understand numbers. Go ahead. Be more anti-Semitic. You coward, you loser, you idiot. All right, well, let's move on to a different angle to the story. And it has to do with the dinner that Trump had with Fuentes and Kanye West. and Kanye West, we're actually setting him up, trolling him.

At least that's what the anti-Semites claim. Now, do we buy it? Let's get to the details and we'll figure this all out. Now, Trump received a lot of backlash, as we know, for having this dinner with these anti-Semites in the first place, and he immediately jumped to damage control. Now, Nick Fuentes, though, says this about the dinner. He told this to NBC News, quote, we saw everybody in the dining room get up and start applauding and then the president entered.

He greeted us and he invited Yeh into dinner. And Ye said he wanted to bring us with him to the table. So we walked in and Ye took some pictures with some of the guests in the dining room. And then we sat down at the table. Now Trump apparently, according to this NBC News report, made sure they sat at his specially reserved table on the patio for all to see, according to Fuentes. Okay.

Well, we all saw, so congratulations on that. Trump advisors, though, who spoke to NBC, think that this is all part of a setup. Okay, so one longtime Trump advisor who doesn't have, you know, the Cajone's to go on record, who didn't want to go on the record criticizing his preferred candidate, said it was clear that Fuentes' presence was part of a headline-grabbing setup. The master troll got trolled, the advisor said. Kanye punked Trump. And that's your preferred candidate, the guy who got punked by Kanye West and Nick Fuentes.

Okay, let me continue. As advisors to Trump have attempted to quell the backlash, some have insisted that the former president was essentially tricked by the rapper and his guess, a suspicion backed by Milo Yianopoulos, the anti-Trump far-right provocateur, who is now acting as a political advisor to Yeh. Yeah, someone who defended pedophilia serving as a political advisor. Great, great decision there. Now, Yianopoulos said that he was the quote, architect of the plan to have Fuentes travel

with Yeh, in the hopes of slipping him into the dinner with Trump. The intent, according to Yiannopoulos, was for Fuentes to give Trump an unvarnished view of how a portion of his base views his candidacy. And so how do they view him? his candidacy. Yonopoulos told NBC News this. I wanted to show Trump the kind of talent that he's missing out on by allowing his terrible handlers to dictate who he can and can't hang out with.

I also wanted to send a message to Trump that he has systematically repeatedly neglected, ignored, abused the people who love him the most, the people who put him in office. And that kind of behavior comes back to bite you in the end. So more details on this, but I'm dying to know, Jank. Are you buying this? Do you think that this was a setup to troll Trump? So I'm not buying it 1%, not at all.

Okay, so, but I agree with Anna. If it was true, then Trump is even dumber. So your Trump advisors are putting out to NBC News of all places, okay, saying, now remember, our boss is an idiot and didn't do any fact checking of who, he was having dinner with, even though he's a former president of the United States and currently running for president. And he got tricked by Kanye West, who is obviously one of the dumbest people in the country. I mean, Kayen West in the Tim Pool interview said he doesn't understand numbers. Okay. So you got tricked by that guy? You got tricked by that guy, by the village idiot,

right? And so how does that help your cause? But the reason I don't believe it is, because Kanye is the village idiot. And so the idea of him tricking anyone, I mean, Tricking Ganya West, the guy it's like IQ is seven. It's not in the double digits. If you told him, hey, let's go tricks. He wouldn't even understand what you're talking about. He's one of the most painfully stupid people I've ever seen in public life. Well, Milo's claiming he's the architect. So, okay, that's a little bit more believable. Milo's an evil guy, but not quite as dumb as Kanye or Trump, Okay, dumb enough to defend pedophilia on Rogan's podcast, but I, I digress. Which did get him banished until now, and Kanye's brought him back, and Trump has brought him back.

Congratulations, you guys must be so proud, okay? And it does go along with the right wing promoting groomers, which, I mean, that's why Milo got driven out, because he did a pro rumor segment on Rogan, okay? So anyways, but back to the so-called trick. How is this a trick? So you get Trump. Why just survive back to school when you can thrive by creating a space that does it all for you, no matter the size. Whether you're taking over your parents' basement or moving to campus, IKEA has hundreds of design ideas and affordable options to complement any budget.

After all, you're in your small space era. It's time to own it. Shop now at IKEA.ca. you guys. How are you going to win? How does that make you more popular? How does that make him less popular? Is the trick, ha ha, we got you to be as unpopular as us? And that's why we're going to win the election against you? That doesn't make any sense at all. So Yonopoulos said he arranged the dinner, quote, just to make Trump's life miserable because news of the dinner would leak and Trump would mishandle it. No, I just, this is so fun.

So Milo is saying, we acknowledge that we are such awful, terrible people that this would lead to backlash for Trump. And so we ensured that the awful Nick Fuentes was at this dinner. So Trump would get the backlash and he'd mishandle it. Like the admission, the inherent admission there that's baked in is incredible. That's a brilliant point by Anna. But like, it's amazing to me that people don't understand concepts like that. So Milo is saying by definition, we're so toxic that even being in the same room as us will do tremendous damage to you.

And that's why we're going to win the election. Amazing. And remember, Milo is now Kanye's campaign manager. So he thinks this is going to help. But remember, there is one person in the room that is actually playing everyone. And it is Milo. Does he think Kanye can win? Of course not.

Of course not. Does he know that as a guy who was a pedophilia advocate, he's not going to be the campaign manager for the winning presidential candidate? Of course. I mean, literally he has a pedophile advocate, a racist and an anti-Semite, walk into a meeting with Trump. Yep. Right?

But I think that all Milo is doing is trying to get back in the game. And so he's not just burning Trump. He's burning Kanye. He doesn't care. And he doesn't care at all. But to be fair to Milo, I mean, look, who wouldn't rob Kanye? And who wouldn't rob Trump? They're the two dumbest people in America. You know who wouldn't? People like us. I know, because we're too moral. But I tell you, I look, given all the terrible things that they've done, put me in a room with them. I'll walk out with a billion dollars before you know what hit you. If he has a billion dollars at this time. Yeah, well, I mean, neither one of them do, actually. That's the problem. I mean, I don't know if. If you heard, Kanye says that Jewish people froze his bank accounts after he didn't pay his taxes. What a moron.

What a moron doesn't understand anything in the world. Now, final part about this is Trump's reaction, okay? Because apparently Trump fumed afterward because he felt that Ye had betrayed him by ambushing him with Nick Fuentes at this dinner. And he said, quote, he tried to F me, he's crazy, he can't beat me, Trump said, according to one confidant who then relayed the conversation to NBC News on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations. So look, this wouldn't stand up in a court of law that's hearsay, but do I think Trump said it?

Yeah, I do. Especially that one part, he can't beat me. 100% Anna. See, that's why mainstream media drives me crazy and not, this is not even about politics. Like, do you guys not understand what Trump is mad about? Trump isn't mad that Kanye is an anti-Semite? He's declared after dinner that he had said nothing anti-Semitic. He isn't mad that Fuentes is racist.

He never denounced Fuentes at all, right? He's had a thousand opportunities. It's been a week. He still hasn't denounced Fuentes. He hasn't denounced Milo. He hasn't denounced any of them. Okay, so the thing that Trump is upset about is that Kanye asked him to be his VP. You have two dumbdums talking to one another.

They're both living in completely alternate realities. And Kanye is like, okay, I'm so obviously going to become president. Trump, do you want to be my VP? And Trump, meanwhile, I was like, how dare you? Why? Because he's anti-Semitic and your daughter and he's like, how dare you think you're above me? That's what Trump's upset about. It's amazing. He said it. It's in the quote.

It's in the quote in the story. Yet news writes it as Trump upset that he got punked by and didn't know that these guys were racist and anti-Semitic. Then why are you running cover for him? That's not what he said at all. He was upset because Kanye had a bigger ego than him. It's amazing. It really is. All right, sedition when we come back from the break.

Don't miss it. All right, back on TYT, Jank, Anna, and Charles Ward and Joseph McCray with you guys. Charles and Joseph, you guys are awesome. You're American heroes. Thank you for joining us. They hit the join button below the video on YouTube. But if you're on an iPhone or any kind of phone, you scroll down a little further to see the join button. Everybody else, t.com slash join. And you know we're giving away a hundred dollar gift cards left and right for our members. All right, Anna. Two members of the Oathkeepers have just been convicted for sedition.

In fact, the founder of Oathkeepers, his name is Stuart Rhodes. And one other member, Kelly Meggs, have been found guilty of seditious conspiracy in connection with the January 6th attack on the United States Capitol. Now, for those who might have missed some of the details in the story leading up to this moment, I'll fill you in, starting with who Stuart Rhodes is and what he did. Now, Rhodes is the founder of the right wing oathkeepers, which is a militia group, which I prefer to call right wing gang. And he's been found guilty of seditious conspiracy, a charge arising from the attack on the U.S. Capitol by supporters of Donald Trump. Rhodes's four co-defendants were Kelly Miggs, or Megs, I should say, who was also found guilty. Kenneth Harrelson, Jessica Watkins, and Thomas Caldwell. Meggs was convicted of seditious conspiracy, but the rest were acquitted.

Now, how much time do they face in prison? Remember, they have not been sentenced yet. They've just been found guilty by a federal jury. They face up to 20 years in prison, Rhodes and Megs, who were also charged alongside all the other people I mentioned earlier, are among the first Americans to be convicted of treason-related charges in decades. In fact, the last time anyone was charged with treason in the United States was back in 2010, but that individual was not convicted of that charge. So that was a DOJ charge against an individual and a militia member in Michigan. But again, that person was not convicted of the charge. Moving on, what did they do?

Well, according to the independent Rhodes and his allies spent weeks discussing a violent response to the 2020 election on encrypted, not encrypted enough apparently, messaging apps, then organized a weapons and supply cash at a nearby hotel before joining. the mob that broke through the capitol's doors and windows to storm the halls of Congress and block the certification of Joe Biden's presidency, according to federal prosecutors. So the prosecutors had those messages, which of course they provided as evidence to the jury, and it was certainly convincing enough for the jury to find these two individuals guilty. Prosecutors also fell shy of saying that they had plans to enter the Capitol, but they did argue that they conspired to commit an act of treason. Attorneys for the oath keepers,

though, say, no, they were, I mean, those messages are no biggie. They were just boastful. And like, you know, attorneys for the oathkeepers claim that the mountains of text messages and video evidence putting their violent rhetoric on display was their own frustrated bombast and not an actual threat. And the jury disagreed. The reason they disagreed is because they carried out the threat. Yeah, exactly. They actually entered the building, broke in and had all those things. But actually, so I read a very long piece, and then I interviewed the guy who wrote a piece about Stuart Rhodes.

And so I know a little bit of detail about him. And he is, he's an interesting cat. He's actually relatively intelligent, but my assessment is that he's got mental health issues, which I think a lot of the right-wing leaders do, honestly. And so in this case, he had several significant problems. One was that he accidentally admitted the whole plot, right? And the reason he admitted the whole plot is because he genuinely thought it was okay. So let me explain.

So they had stashed away a lot of weapons in the hotels and they were going to go in and they thought that Trump was going to go with them to the capital. They were going to barge into the capital. and then they were going to declare Trump the actual president and, you know, president-elect again, of course at the time he was the president, and that Trump was then going to declare them an official militia. So he drank his own Kool-Aid.

That's not a thing, but he genuinely believed it was a thing. And he believed that Trump was going to do all these things. That's why if you've seen in some of his interviews afterwards, he's like genuinely shocked and really like heartbroken that Trump didn't do any of the things that he said he was going to do, right? He's like, why didn't he declare us a militia? Then it would have been official. Why didn't this and this happened?

Why didn't he walk with us in the cow? No, he's a con man. You're his mark. And he didn't get that. And so he walked right into it and he told the authorities, oh yeah, we had the weapons over there. We didn't use them. We were waiting to be declared a militia.

Can we look, I know this seems out of left field, but I got to say it because it's on my mind every time. we deal with stories involving individuals who might have mental health issues, just one policy change in this country could really have a lasting impact on all the issues we talk about on this show regularly. Medicare for all. If everyone in this country could get the health care that they need, including mental health care that they need, maybe they wouldn't be victims to lies from con men. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? I do. And so I've been trying to to figure out why does the right wing have a proclivity to follow people who are not mentally

well? And I'm not trying to be like, ha ha, and I've done that plenty of times in the past. I'm not trying to troll you. It's a real thing, okay? So Trump is obviously has significant mental health issues. He's narcissists beyond anything anybody's ever seen. Sociopath cannot relate to any other individual. Akia West is obviously not mentally well. Roson Bar back in the day. Rose on. Roson. Rose on, what was that? Roson Barr. Okay, the French version of Roseanne Barr, Rolls-Hon Barr. Anyway, Roseanne Barr, Ted Nugent, Glenn Beck has admitted that he goes on a gyroscope to try to heal his mental health issues.

I mean, you go down the whole list, a shockingly high percentage of right-wing leaders have either or obviously mentally unwell or have admitted to being mentally unwell, right? And so, and Kanye said, oh, I went off my medication, and then still people love them, right? And I think it's because people who have that kind of mental health issue, it comes packaged with this grandiose view of themselves. So they, and I've known people in my personal life. And when they, and people who are really sick. And then one guy got really sick and he thought he was Muhammad risen, right?

Wow. And so that these guys, they might not, but Kaini does say it. He says he's Jesus. He says he's Martin Luther King. He says, like he, these guys. So that's why they act out and they act like alphas, like fake alphas, obviously, right? Obviously the rest of us. And they're like, oh, I'm the greatest thing ever and you should all hate those guys, right?

Because they're not well. But unfortunately for the right wing mind, that's really alluring. They are looking for some really strong person to blame someone else for their problems. And so mental health problems is actually kind of a bonus for right wing leaders. It's a huge advantage for them. So I come back to Stuart Rhodes. The guy's now going to prison for a long time for treason. Why did people follow him?

A lot of, I mean, he set up as oathkeepers. He was the leader and they all worshipped him. Because same kind of thing. We're going to take down the U.S. government. We're going to bring back real America where white people rule with weapons. And the right wing loved it. I think one of the most powerful things, One of the most powerful urges that humans have is the urge to live a life of purpose.

And in our current state, as workers experience the precarious nature of being a worker, the instability, the lack of power, they look for purpose elsewhere. And I think that's part of it as well. I think that they want to feel that they're having a lasting impact on this country. So that's part of it too. I think that's mixed into this toxic stew where people are getting manipulated. They're destroying their own lives by being manipulated by these con men, by these phony, pretend strong men. And yeah, it's not only putting themselves and their families at a massive disadvantage because it destroys their lives, but it hurts the country.

It really does. So I don't know what the answer is. I just were in this mess and it's incredible. Like, I remember when Trump won in 2016, I was like, all right, well, this is not good. But all people need is a year of his leadership to see that he was a fraud, right? That he never even bothered to talk about policy on the campaign trail. And if he did mention policy, he didn't actually get detailed about how he would accomplish the policies that he claimed that he would accomplish. But no, as the years went on, his base fell more and more in love with him.

And I still struggle to explain it considering how much he actually hurt them in a lot of ways. Like the farmers whose livelihoods were destroyed by Trump's weird, aimless trade war, right? Like, it's just, I don't get it. But yeah, I don't know. So a lot of great points in there. So last couple of things here, Stuart Rhodes was not a con man. He was a true believer, right? Donald Trump is a con man.

It's a giant difference, right? Kaya is a true believer in himself, right, in a way that is mentally unhealthy, right? But so the reason I'm telling that difference is because conmen like Trump come in and they take advantage of a couple of things that Anna talked about. I mentioned they need leadership. They really, I mean, Trump's best line was when he said about banning Muslims, he said, we've got to ban them from the country until we know what the hell is going on. And that's a perfect description of the right wing. They don't know what the hell's going on.

So there's just like, let's ban people that don't look like us. Don't we figure out what the hell's going on, right? So they're desperate for leadership. They don't know what's going on. They're also, he weaponizes their insecurity and their need for purpose that Anna pointed out, right? And he takes all that and goes perfect, exactly the mark I was looking for. These suckers and losers will give me anything I want. They'll give me money.

They'll give me power. They'll give me fame. and he uses them. That's why a guy like Trump is actually, in my opinion, infinitely worse than a guy like Stewart Rhodes, who even though Stuart Rhodes is dangerous and did do these things and should be punished, got suckered by a guy like Trump. People like Stuart Rhodes just serve as pawns for people like Trump. Yes, he's a pawn.

Maybe at best, in his best day, he's a bishop. But overall, because he's leading others, but look, where did he lead you? He let it you into a disaster. And now you're going to serve long prison sentences, which you deserve, okay? Because America was never your enemy. Ironically, it was the guys who wanted to take advantage of you. The guys who actually are your enemy who conveys you to attack the country that you thought you loved. But you just went down this dark, dark path.

Guys, do not listen to guys telling you how they've got it all figured out. And you need to attack people and you need to give them money. You need to do all these things for them. they never have to do anything for you. Trump's never delivered for a single human being on his side ever. In fact, that's our very next story. Yes, but we do have to take a break first. So let's do that.

When we come back, we're going to talk about some former politicians who are speaking out against Donald Trump because loyalty only goes one way. They finally realize that once they had no power. And then later we'll talk about how Trump is upset with the federal judge. and Supreme Court justices he appointed because they're not serving him as his personal defense attorney. So we've got that and more coming up. Don't miss it. We'll be right back. access members, only bonus content, and more by subscribing to Apple Podcasts at apple.com slash t-y-t. I'm your host, Shank Huger, and I'll see you soon.