The Young Turks - Fighting AIPAC Robots - August 28, 2025

Episode Date: August 29, 2025

Israeli pedo skips yet another court hearing — because of course he did. Adam Friedland, who is Jewish, rips Rep. Ritchie Torres: “This is a genocide!” Rep. Delia Ramirez joins for an interview.... Hosts: Ana Kasparian, Cenk Uygur SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞  https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK  ☞   https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER  ☞       https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM  ☞  https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK  ☞          https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH  ☞      https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:02 mutter us, and we'll take into the force. Bajo the strong leadership of the President Trump, our laws are complains and our frontier is secure. All right, well of the young Turks, Jake U Granite Kusparan with you guys. We've got a lot of news for you all as usual. And unfortunately as usual, some dangerous news. And, you know, the authoritarian tendencies of several governments, including ours, grows by the day. We also have a couple of really interesting interviews for you guys.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Congresswoman Delia Ramirez is joining us a little bit later in this hour. So make sure that you're sticking around for that. And Mohammed Mustafa is a doctor. It's gone to Gaza. And he's going to join us at 8 o'clock. So both are compelling. Hope you stick around for all that. Anna, how are you doing?
Starting point is 00:02:30 I am exhausted. I think I'm kind of over traveling, but I've been traveling a lot, as you can imagine. But it's good to be on the show with you, Jank, and there's so much to get to, including this update on the Israeli pedophile who might get away with what he attempted to do here in the United States. All right, let's do it. One of those pedophiles is an Israeli government official who his government allowed to fly back to Israel. after he had been charged in that sting operation for using technology to lure a minor for sex. So it really shouldn't be surprising that the senior Israeli cybersecurity official didn't fly back to the United States in order to appear for his arraignment this week on Wednesday. And it's going to be difficult to get Tom Alexandrovich back to the United States in order to face the,
Starting point is 00:03:26 the felony charges that he absolutely should be facing because of the fact that the FBI in a sting operation caught this guy attempting to lure a 15-year-old to meet with him for sex. Now, again, this was part of a multi-week investigation that was done by local police in Las Vegas and the FBI. And they were specifically targeting, you know, child sex predators. according to Reuters, Alexandrovich was due to be at a court in Henderson just outside Las Vegas on Wednesday for a felony arraignment hearing, according to court records.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Local media, including the Las Vegas Review Journal, said he skipped the hearing. By the way, I should note, and I didn't know this until a few minutes ago, it turns out that the Las Vegas Review Journal is owned by Miriam Adelson. It's incredible. Anyway, so let me give you some more of this reporting.
Starting point is 00:04:24 So Alexandrovich's lawyers argue, you know, we had we had an agreement with the prosecutors here and that Alexandrovich did not have to appear in person. That was the agreement. And here's what he told the judge, okay? This is David Chesnoff. He is the individual, the lawyer representing the alleged pedophile here, Alexandrovich. He says, quote, the state and I have. an agreement. And we informed your staff that he would not be here. I did not know the protocol
Starting point is 00:04:58 that the court has. You're a lawyer. How do you not know the court's protocol? But anyway, he continues. I'm in constant contact with Alexandrovich. I can show you my phone just this morning. I instructed him that he didn't have to be here because normally that's the practice that we've employed for the 45 years I've been doing this, maybe for Israeli pedophiles, but the seven other individuals who were caught up in the sting operation are expected to show up in person to their arraignment. But credit to the judge, and by the way, let's not miss what the attorney said here. The first few words of that statement was the state, meaning the state attorney is the person he made some sort of agreement with,
Starting point is 00:05:46 allegedly. And the state attorney is the Israeli-born prosecutor who, of course, posts all sorts of disgusting stuff about Palestinians and how they all deserve to die on X and social media. So apparently there was some sort of agreement with her and the attorney representing the alleged pedophile here. So the judge noted that the district attorney's office does not have the authority to waive felony arraignment appearances and told Alexandrovich's lawyer that your oral request without anything before the court to waive his appearance here today is hereby denied. But I think there's a little bit of a misunderstanding here because he says the state. He didn't say the district attorney. So we really need to
Starting point is 00:06:28 figure out who's wheeling and dealing here. And I suspect it is in fact the state attorney. Now later, the judge also granted a request to allow Alexandrovich to participate through Zoom next week. So we'll stay on this story and see if he does in fact appear. But look, Nevada's acting U.S. attorney Segal Chata in an ex post had blamed the Clark County District Attorney's Office and state judges for not requiring Alexandrovich to surrender his passport, considering the fact that he's a flight risk. But what's really interesting is, while I definitely think that Segal Chata has something to do with the fact that he was able to fly back without having to worry about an arraignment in person, the Clark County District Attorney is saying some stuff that's making me go, hmm. So Clark County District Attorney Steve Wolfson has denied allegations that the defendant received special treatment, describing Alexandrovich's bail as standard or preset. by the court. Under the standard bail procedure, an arrestee can post bond straight away and be released without conditions, Wilson explained. Yes, that is the case when it comes to Americans
Starting point is 00:07:47 who are not a flight risk. In this case, Alexandrovich is an Israeli national and is a flight risk and should have had his passport taken away, but it wasn't. I think intentionally so. So the judge says that this alleged pervert should have no contact with minors and refrain from using dating sites as this case is adjudicated, which, come on, Jank. I mean, this is going to be impossible to enforce considering the fact that he is an Israeli government official currently in Israel and didn't show up in person for his arraignment. Okay, yes. Go ahead. Yeah, and there's a bunch of absurdities here and a lot of open questions. But I think that this is a binary issue.
Starting point is 00:08:35 So what happens here is going to be really important from two points of view. One is the legal point of view, the other is the media point of view. So let me bring it all down. So first of all, to Anna's point, is he a flight risk? Well, there's no bigger flight risk than a foreign government official who's charged with child sex trafficking, right? I mean, just forget Israel, like any foreign official, have an Afghan, you know, a Swedish guy. It doesn't really matter. He's, of course, going to go back to his home country.
Starting point is 00:09:06 You'd be nuts to not put him in prison, right? I mean, that's the most obvious thing in the world. Like, wouldn't it be super, super weird if the Swedish dude who was looking to rape American kids didn't go back to Sweden? I was just like, oh, yeah, I'll just stay here in case I go to prison for 20, 30 years. Because I'd like to help serve justice. No, he's not interested in justice. That's why he was trying to have sex with kids. So okay, so that's obvious, okay, to anyone who isn't an Israeli defender or all of media, okay?
Starting point is 00:09:37 If you defend Israel, why would you defend this? Genuinely, just at least think strategically for once in your life. If you happen to be an avid supporter of Israel and you will support Israel any at all costs. Why would you defend Israel harboring someone who tried to rape kids in the United States? Yeah. Don't you care about the reputation of the country you love so much? Yeah, there's- It's just so stupid, it's stupid. There's three different buckets there, hold on, there's three different buckets there.
Starting point is 00:10:07 So a lot of Israeli supporters don't defend, okay, to be fair of them. I've seen it online, they're like, who's this guy, and why is he doing this? No, that's terrible, right? And then there are the people who say, no, it's anti-Semitic. Wait, hold on, Jesus Christ, how could this be anti-Semitic? Because their knee jerk reaction is anything that's a criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic. And so how do they get there? Because they got to get there somehow, right?
Starting point is 00:10:29 The talking point 100% of the time is anti-Semitism. It's just a question of how you get there. In this case, they get there with, oh, well, the rapist of all, every government would be let go, except now people are complaining when Israel's child rapists is let go. They're singling out Israel. And they're saying that Israel has special powers in America. Yeah, it's an anti-Semitic trope, okay? But brother, no, there is no other government official would be let go or should be let go.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And it's not singling out Israel at all. It would be the reverse to say that, no, only Israeli officials should be allowed to go back and not face justice. And that's absurd. I mean, I hope none of you are saying that, but a lot of you are saying that. If you, some of the supporters of Israel, et cetera. Look, the idea that he shouldn't be brought back is totally indefensible, but yet what you're going to see is, and that's why you're seeing the sound of silence here, and that's why the media part of this is super important.
Starting point is 00:11:30 But what you're going to see is that no U.S. government official is actually trying to bring him back. Everyone agrees, even if you corner an Israeli supporter and go, hey, guys, if you love Israel, why would you want it to guys like this to evade justice? then it looks like Israel is getting special privileges and then folks are going to hate Israel. I mean, don't you get that? To Anna's point, now that's like, it's pretty dumb not to realize that, right? And nevertheless, some people go, no, no, no, no, no, Israel can never be charged.
Starting point is 00:11:57 No one from Israel could ever be charged. Everyone's an anti-semin. Okay, look, then we're having an nonsense conversation. dish I make. It's called spaghetti a la Janka. I take sunny side up eggs and I plop spaghetti with butter on top of it. You can mix it. So as you can see, that's a bit of a disaster. So my family wanted me to try other things. And luckily it was Cook Unity. And they got me covered because they got professional Italian cuisine that we all love. Who doesn't love Italian? And they got award-winning chefs. It's super easy. So lately, my favorite dish has been pesto pasta with turkey meatballs.
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Starting point is 00:14:39 He's not even in the country. All of this is theater. All of this is absurdity. If our government was not biased in favor of Israel, we would be doing everything to get him back. Instead, here's what we're doing to get him back, nothing, literally nothing. The judge is confused by it, he's like, I don't get it, I told him to be here in court, where's the hard part?
Starting point is 00:14:58 And now there's confusion because partly because one of the papers reporting on it is owned by a massive Israel supporter whose family is given $337 million to Donald Trump and has said publicly it's so that he will support Israel. So now her junk papers theoretically reporting on this. So you have to ignore everything they say. So look, there's just not enough real reporters in the country. There needs to be a reporter there going, wait, wait, wait, wait. Does he have to show up in person or are we making special rules for Israeli citizens where
Starting point is 00:15:29 they can zoom in? Because by the way, if I'm one of the defense attorneys for the other seven guys who were caught, who have the misfortune of being American citizens and obviously have way less rights than that is really government official. I mean, let's be honest, that's what's happening. That is definitively what's happening. So the Americans with less rights, I mean, I would go in and go, wait, why can't I do a zoo?
Starting point is 00:15:51 Why can I just, you know what? I want to go to Israel too. Or I want to go to Australia or I want to go on vacation of Hawaii, whatever. I now want special privileges. Wait a minute, we caught you trying to rape kids. Who cares? If the Israelis allowed, why aren't I allowed?
Starting point is 00:16:05 And that's a fair question, because neither one of you should be allowed. None of you should be allowed to do things like this. So Anna, the reason I say it's binary is either this guy is going to face justice or he's not. So all of the excuses the government officials can make, including the one that hates, like literally is a bigot who has publicly announced many times the district attorney here, that she hates Palestinians, right? The state attorney, the state attorney. Sorry, state attorney. Okay. And so, I mean, it's a joke. Her being involved in this case is a joke. So if she does her job, then no problem at all.
Starting point is 00:16:44 But she's like, no, I helped hide the Israeli rapists. I'm from Israel and I hate Palestinians. And I should be in charge of this case. And I'm going to treat the American citizens as 100% harshly, but the Israeli citizen gets to walk. No, then get the hell out of here. You should be fired immediately. And look, I know you're not saying this,
Starting point is 00:17:04 But I just want to give my point of view in regard to the prosecution of pedophiles or child sex predators, whether they're U.S. citizens or disgusting sex tourists from other countries, all of them should be prosecuted as harshly as possible, as harshly as the state laws or federal laws permit. Okay, I don't want, oh, this Israeli is getting special treatment. So I want the American pedophiles to be treated nicely. No, no, they're praying on kids. And you know, look, this story was really an eye-opener for me, Jank. Because it really does reveal to me how little our government and our media
Starting point is 00:17:51 cares about our own kids in our own country. Okay, they couldn't care less. I brought it up on the CNN panel. That was definitely the first time that story was ever mentioned on CNN. And get off and get off and get off and no one, no one addressed it. No one addressed. No one cares. And that's the thing, either they don't care or they're terrified. They're terrified to address it.
Starting point is 00:18:14 And the real question is why? Is it because he's a cybersecurity official who's been working with our NSA and our intelligence organizations? He's the one who built the so-called security dome that he's, you know, pitching to other countries, including the United States, digital security dome. Are they worried that he might try to dig up dirt on them if they report harshly on him? And that's the thing that's so great about you and I, Jank, okay? Because we live on screen, it might look like we live exciting lives. I live the life of a grandmother, okay?
Starting point is 00:18:47 I go to work, I go home, clean as a whistle. Okay, so I'm going to hit at him as hard as humanly possible because this is, I mean, the pinnacle of gross injustice in our country right now that he's getting away with this. Anyway, yeah. So I have had two things to add to that. First of all, I agree, but I'm going to add a rule. Okay, so your rule number one is they should all get, be treated as harshly as possible. I agree. Rule number two is no Americans should be treated with less rights and as inferior to the citizens of any other country. So the American citizens that are charged with this heinous crime should be treated it super harshly and so should the Israeli
Starting point is 00:19:29 citizen, obvious. Anyone who disagrees with that is weird, maniacal, obviously bias. And it just does, like, it's telling on yourself. Now, the more important thing is, Anna, because look, like the Israeli support is some of Marguess, some of before, whatever, okay? But the bottom line is, what is our American government going to do? Okay, we could all have debates online, right? And so if right now mainstream media has a total wall of silence. And yeah, when you said it on CNN, Anna, there was this awkward, eerie silence. And it was, I thought at that moment, it was one of two things. Either they had never heard of it because they never hear anything anti-Israel,
Starting point is 00:20:12 because it's never, ever, ever reported in mainstream media. So they might be like, what? What is this? Is this conspiratorial or something, right? The idea that Israel would do anything wrong. And then the American government would unfairly be biased in favor of Israel. That sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory. So it's possible they never heard it.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Or if they heard it, they're like get off, get off it, get off it, get off it. And that's weird. Both of those things are super weird because right now it's not like there's some stories that where almost nobody's ever heard of it, right? And then there's a story like this where the grassroots and online media is talking a lot about it. A Republican congressman got challenged about it just recently. That's later in the show, right?
Starting point is 00:20:50 So the grassroots is bubbling up, bubbling up, and online media is like, no one, no one should talk about it, no one will talk about it. Well, why? That's weird. There's a giant controversy that's bubbling up. Normally you would cover it, but in this case, you're not. So the pro-Israel stance of American media is best case scenario, super duper weird. I mean, look, you were on CNN and you challenged Israel what I thought was fairly mildly, right? And they seemed like a gas, like their mind was blown. They're like, what do you mean? We already kind of. condemned Hamas, we're done with this topic. Well, like Jesus Christ. I want to be fair. I want to be fair.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Look, I don't think that Abby Phillips falls under that category. I think that she, I mean, she tones it down in my opinion. But I get the sense that she sees what's going on just based on the comments she does make. No, no. I'm not talking about Abby. Okay. Yeah. And I hear you on that.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And I'm not. But Scott Jennings. Scott Jennings. Okay. I mean, hardcore. you know, he love, I mean, he's definitely a huge Israel supporter, defends Israel at any at all costs, and has never been confronted with the kinds of arguments that I was making. You know, those are the kinds of circles he runs around with.
Starting point is 00:22:03 No, no, Scott Jennings. So when I bring up the hostages, or when he brings up the hostages and I say, okay, well, what about the West Bank? There's no hostages in the West Bank. So why is Israel reigning terror on the Palestinians of the West Bank? He goes back to, I want the hostages released. Loser. That's a loser argument. No, no, no, no. I saw Scott Jennings. Look, that's exactly what I'm talking about. So you're bringing up perfectly legitimate points. Not only that you're backing them up with evidence that you're citing, statistics and facts that you're citing. And this is Scott Jennings' reaction to hold her.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Oh, yeah, whatever. I already said Hamas. I win the argument. Israel. Are you saying Israel's not a saint? Uh-oh. Cancel her. Cancel her. That's what you look like, Scott Jennings. And you look like a stupid stooge for Israel. You look like you're like a desperate little like he's got like his fancy clothes. and things and he's like, oh yeah, I already said Hamas, I'm running for Senate later. Send me money, APEC! Who cares? Israel murdered 16,000 people. The 83% of them are civilians, 18,000 at a bare, bare minimum, more children. Who cares? Who cares? It's just Palestinians. Here in
Starting point is 00:23:07 Washington, we don't care about human beings. All we care about is money. That's what Scott Jennings looks like. He looked like a despicable genocide supporter, which is exactly what he is. Yeah, and don't make the mistake of thinking he cares about American kids either. All right, we got to go to break. But when we come back, there's a lot more to get to because if you think Scott Jennings looked bad, wait till you get a load of Democratic Congressman Richie Torres in an interview where he just looks like a monster. He really does. We've got that and more coming up.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Don't miss it. All right, back on CYKJankana with you guys, Anna's got more news. Let's get right to it. The fact that I still care about being Jewish is embarrassing. I should just be a guy. But this feels like a stain on our history. And it feels like it's changed what being Jewish is. Because what being Jewish is, isn't Israel.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Judaism has existed for 4,000 years. This is a country for 75 years. People in my life are gonna be mad at me about this, but I'm saying this because I am Jewish. I feel like I'm here to be lectured, not. Shut up, that's not nice, you can't talk that way. Turns out one of the biggest mistakes comedian Adam Friedland can possibly make is try to reach the humanity
Starting point is 00:24:48 that doesn't actually exist in Democratic congressman Richie Torres's heart. As they were discussing the barbarism, the genocide, and the ethnic cleansing that's currently taking place in both Gaza and the West Bank, Richie Torres had absolutely no empathy, even as he was speaking to a host who happens to be Jewish. So this might have something to do with it. Let's put this graphic up, which shows you just how much money This New York congressman has received from the Israel lobby nearly $1.6 million in his pretty short political career, to be quite frank. So with that in mind, let's just go to this interview, which spanned a variety of topics. I should be clear, they didn't just talk about what Israel is up to. But I'm going to focus on the issues pertaining to anti-Semitism and the genocide in Gaza.
Starting point is 00:25:46 So here's Friedland basically explaining how he believes that anti-Semitism is rising in the United States, not because people are just hateful, but due to Israel's actions against the Palestinians. Take a look. I think hatred of Jewish people has exploded in this country. And I don't think it's, I think it's because it's of our support of what looks to be an absolute brutality and I think that if you think that's a justification for antisemages here's the thing is like Israeli government policies are justification for anti-submages my views I think there's no justification for antisemitism I think
Starting point is 00:26:28 that there's zero justification panties okay you're deflecting again I'm not deflecting that's my position what does it look like to have a flag with a Jewish star and I'm Jewish and for kids to be starving right now and why is my government I don't want to do this fight let's not do like a yelling at each other I really just for me it's for me I had the the experience of it just sounds like you're justifying anti-sammages which making me feel like are you crazy right now okay why would I do that you're telling you're doing the I'm Hamas thing I mean there's really no way around it Richie Torres is just a bad person he's a bad guy okay
Starting point is 00:27:06 and honestly the one doing the lecturing here is the non-Jew okay telling the Jewish host how he should feel about the fact that every single time you see images and videos of Israel's barbarism toward literal children, the response to anyone who's concerned about it is, oh, that's anti-Semitic. Yeah. That's anti-Semitic. To be concerned about innocent children being butchered by a government. Go ahead, Jank.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Yeah, so look, I just want to break down that really dumb talking point. of Richie Torres. So, oh, it sounds like you're justifying anti-savidism. Okay, so after 9-11, as a Muslim American, I could have said, okay, that's it. You're not allowed to talk about 9-11. Why? Because that's riling up hatred towards Muslims, you're encouraging Islamophobia. And that would have been mental because 9-11 did happen and people were going to talk about it, right?
Starting point is 00:28:07 Now, that doesn't mean the 9-11 happens, so hence you should hate Muslims, no, but do I understand why people mistakenly ascribe that to all Muslims. Of course I do because I'm not a moron or pretending to be a moron for money like Richie Torres. I know that after 9-11, a lot of people were going to be super pissed than Muslims. And then your job is to say, hey, hey, not all Muslims, et cetera, get them to rational, but then not to defend the people who did it, but to go after the people who did it. But if you say, no, no, no, no, if we go after the people who did 9-11, that would be Islamophobic.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And in this case, there's, Richie Torres is saying, if you're gonna try to stop Israel. And not violently, not anything, just can we not fund? Can we not proactively finance their genocide? He's like, well, if you're complaining about the genocide, then that means you're an anti-Semite. Okay, yeah. And that's what $1.6 million will buy you, an idiot propagandist like Richie Torres. Just a, I mean, soulless. That's what really stood out to me about Richie Torres in the context of this interview.
Starting point is 00:29:11 So, you know, as the back and forth on this topic continued, you know, Freeland, I thought this was an important moment, explained how he himself used to identify as a Zionist. And then he ended up living in Israel and experienced some things that enlightened him. Take a look. I lived there. Sir, I lived there when I was 18 and I grew up a Zionism. And we were told, and our whole community in this country is told, that we have to defend Israel and love Israel, because it will stop the Holocaust. It will stop another Holocaust for happening. And my parents, my dad was born in 1951. That was six years after these atrocities.
Starting point is 00:29:58 His friends' parents, he knew these people that had been through this hell, these skeletons. And it terrified us. And the understanding in our communities that we have to defend Israel. But it's, I lived there, and I went to a settlement at the end of my year there. And I looked down the hill at a Palestinian village, and I saw how they lived. And I turned back and I looked at the settlement and saw how they lived. And people live in a world where they're demeaned and dehumanized and surveilled constantly by people in. And this isn't in Gaza.
Starting point is 00:30:36 by people in swap team outfits with semi-automatic weapons, and that's what the world is seeing. See, this is why I can't stand Israel defenders, you know, just defaming the entirety of the Jewish population by saying that what's happening right now in Gaza is being done on behalf of the Jewish population, in the name of the Jewish population. because it's not. It's not about the Jewish people at all. I mean, I look, I listen to Friedland there and what he's saying. And this is a man with a heart and a soul. And he knows that there's injustice and he's speaking out against it. So to do what Netanyahu and the IDF is doing in the name of Jewish people overall is one of the most disgusting and defamatory things I have seen in modern history.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah, so this is a perfect example of how it's not about religion, it's about a government, right? Because you have a Jewish person saying, I don't want anybody to do this in my name and being a wonderful, decent moral person. And you have a person who is representing Israel who is not Jewish, saying, no, Israel should get to kill all these people. And the people who are being killed are guilty, and the people doing the killing are not guilty, right? And so why is he saying that? Is he saying that to protect Jews? No, as Adam is pointing out, no, he's actually. actually putting Jews in greater danger.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And one of the reasons that he's putting them in greater danger is because he's saying, if you criticize the monstrous actions of Israel, that means you hate Jews. An attack on Israel is an attack on all Jews. All Jews are then responsible for all of Israel's actions. But that's nuts, because no one in the Israeli cabinet called any of my Jewish friends or family. They didn't, it's not true, they're just using Jews as human shields. So no, no, no, you can't, if you criticize Israel, that means you criticize. Okay, then again, back to 9-11.
Starting point is 00:32:38 It's so, can you imagine Israel's doing something terrible, Al-Qaeda did something terrible. And by the way, Israel killed, has so far killed 20 times the number of people Al-Qaeda killed on 9-11. You want to catch feelings about, oh my God, you can't compare them, I just did, okay? And if you kill 20 times the number of people is Al-Qaeda, you probably should be looking at yourself as what's wrong with. with you as opposed to how dare you compare me to Al Qaeda when I am the great and holy Israel. You're not, you're a sick government in the middle of a genocide. So if somebody made the audacious and preposterous argument that you cannot criticize al-Qaeda because they represent all Muslims, that would hurt the Muslim community.
Starting point is 00:33:25 And I would speak out super forcefully and say, no, they don't represent all Muslims. Are you insane? We're not in favor of that kind of terrorism. But here people are saying, no, the non-Jew is telling the Jew, hey, you know what? Israel represents all of you and you're all responsible for Israel's actions. He's like, no, I'm not, I'm against it. He's like, shut off Jewish person, I'm telling you what's right. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:33:50 It's ludicrous. Yeah, it is. So finally, despite the fact that, you know, Friedland explained. what his own personal experiences in Israel happened to be. Richie Torres basically took it, threw it in the trash. And even after the interview was technically over, they still engaged in a bit of a back and forth. The cameras were still rolling.
Starting point is 00:34:14 And while it was awkward, I think it's worth taking a look at it. We could have to talk about so much other. No, I think you have to shut up to speak about this. I really didn't have an agenda. I really didn't. It's your number one copy. It's not my number one copy. It is.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I'm not my number one tough. It's not what I saw. I was not elected on Israel. You don't get elected in the South Bronx and I'm not trying to make you feel bad or like I just don't think you know what you're talking about. Yeah, I don't think you know what you're talking about, okay? You are the one who's literally paid to say and spew the bile that comes out of your mouth. Yeah. And for him to lecture Friedland is just it's disgusting. I feel bad because you could tell Friedland was really thinking that they could have like a real exchange here, you know, but you can't really have a genuine exchange, a sincere conversation with a robot, with an empty suit, with someone who's just, I don't know, soulless. I look at Richie Torres and I see soulless. Go ahead, Jenks. Yeah, so last couple things here. This is old school versus new school too. So the new school is, I don't care that I'm from Turkey. Adam doesn't care that he lived in Israel. We're all just trying to.
Starting point is 00:35:29 to do the right thing, right? So if the Turkish president is, you know, attacking democracy, which he is, we call him out, why? Because we're Americans, and we got no dog in that fight. And our job is in news is to be unbiased. Adam's doing the same thing for Israel. You know why? Because he's an American. And so that's why we protect our Jewish American brothers and sisters, and do not make the mistake Richie Torres wants you to make, and APEC wants you to make, and assume that all Jews agree with the heinous actions of Israel. But so why do you, Why does Richie Torres care about that? Because he's like he woke up like, gosh, he woke up in the Bronx and he's like,
Starting point is 00:36:05 oh God, Israel, I'm just dying to protect Israel no matter what, even if they do a genocide, I can't wait to support them. No, it's because he's corrupt and he got paid $1.6 million. So the core of this issue isn't even Israel, it's money in politics. Because Richie Torres will do anything for money. So if, you know, you think he's not selling out to the drug companies, the oil companies and all those, he sells out to everyone. If anyone else gave him one point, if Sweden gave him $1.6 million, he'd be like,
Starting point is 00:36:32 oh, of course, the great people of Sweden and anybody, they should be allowed to murder anyone they like. And if you are, you criticize them, you're anti-Swedish, okay? He would say it, of course he would say it. He gets paid to represent his donors and not his voters, and finally that leads to the Bronx comment. He's like, oh, so the Bronx is not really an issue in Israel, I'm not doing this to win. No, no, of course it's not an issue in Israel in the Bronx, but why do you keep talking about a nonstop?
Starting point is 00:37:01 You're one of the top congressmen to constantly talk about Israel, okay? And how does it will help you win an election? Not by getting voters, you know how it helps you, by getting the money, Lobowski. And so the money comes in and you use that money to lie to your voters to trick them into voting for you. You never talk about Israel because your voters wouldn't like that. Instead, you tell them other lies that you bought with the AIPAC money. So no, look, Adam did a nice job trying to interview this corporate sellout. But the reality is there's no talking to these people.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Not only are they robots, Anna, on top of that they're so corrupt, you can't have an honest conversation. Because an honest conversation is, you're doing it for the money. And then he'd be like, oh, no way, man, I just love Israel's genocide. Okay, whatever. He's useless. But by the way, remember, Richie Torres is not like some exception to the rule. He is the rule.
Starting point is 00:37:51 That is the great majority of our congressmen. They don't care about Jewish people. They don't care about religion. They don't care about their voters. All they care about is where's the money? I will be a prostitute for anyone who pays me. So that is how Richie Torres is very symbolic of the U.S. Congress. All right.
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Starting point is 00:39:34 We've got a great interview for you now. All right, Congresswoman Delia Ramirez joins us now. from Illinois, she's just Democrat congresswoman, welcome to this show. Thanks for having me. No problem. So we've got a lot of things to talk about, including the Democrats action plan, if they have one. But MAGA is apparently calling for you to be deported over the comments that we just showed. And we want to give you a chance to respond. I think MAGA is trying to do whatever they can to try to distract us from the reality.
Starting point is 00:40:17 We're just weeks from a government shutdown. Epstein files and a subpoena that was approved oversight committee. And the reality, that's just me honest, Jenk, they hate diversity. They hate that I stand up for immigrants and I'm unapologetic about it. But to say that I'm a proud Guatemalan American and that's committing treason, it's hypocrisy. And it's an attack, hoping that I'll stay quiet. It actually just amplifies me more. Yeah, so I'm curious, right now obviously Donald Trump is putting military in the street.
Starting point is 00:40:49 kidnapping people off the streets with mass men with no badges, et cetera. And we've been completely against that at the Young Turks. So it gets a little bit more interesting when you get to the issues of border security. So it appears that they have quote unquote closed the border, whatever that means, as opposed to Biden administration, where the border was seemingly more open. Is that, do you think that that assessment is wrong or do you agree with that assessment and think maybe Democrats didn't to do some things wrong. Look, I'm a Democrat, and for those that know me know that I'm also not afraid in
Starting point is 00:41:26 criticizing when Democrats get things wrong. I think that for a very long time, we as Democrats have done a terrible job talking about immigration and separating the conversation about immigration, what's happening here, the root causes of migration, and what happens at the border. But, I was at the border a couple months ago. I would tell you that I saw a 12 year old boy, who was handcuffed for attempting to to come to this country seeking refuge, handcuffed, a 12 year old. I also heard the officers talk about how, yeah, people are not really coming through the border
Starting point is 00:41:57 anymore, but some people that are attempting to come through this wall that they just built are dying as they're jumping through. So yes, Republicans have shot on the border. They're making it more dangerous for people. But it doesn't change a circumstances junk that force people to leave their country. It just means more people are dying. So just one more thing on that, I'm for legal immigration. Obviously I would prefer people do it the legal way, right? So when people do it in a way that is, you know, outside of that, it presents a challenge. So, and why is it a challenge?
Starting point is 00:42:32 Well, you could say easy, just bring them back, right? But sometimes they have asylum cases and you got to hear that. And so that's why I would say, hey, more judges, etc. But what do you do with that 12 year old? So if that 12 year old came by himself, or with a family. We can't just say, okay, welcome to the country. We also don't want to be cruel to the 12 year old or the family.
Starting point is 00:42:53 So what do we do instead? Well, I think, Jenk, I'm for legal immigration too. I think that everyone that's crossing borders having to spend $10,000 nearly dying the Darren Gap would tell you if there was an opportunity to file for status to come to this country legally, they would desperately do that. So anything, if they had anything, to be able to do that. And they'd prefer to give it to the United States than they would to give it to a coyote or someone who falsely promises them an opportunity in this country. The point, though, is that we haven't
Starting point is 00:43:23 really established real legal pathways for poor people. We've done it, and Donald Trump talks about this golden pass, right, this golden card for anyone that can pay five million. Well, the people crossing that border were in the people that had five million. I think when we think about this country, we're a country that says through a Statue of Liberty, give me you're hungry, you're wary, you're tired. If that 12 year old boy came by himself, the very first thing we should be asking ourselves is, let's do a wellness check on this child, is he okay, doesn't need medicine, does he need a doctor, why did he come by himself, where is his family, and then figure out as we do with any other child,
Starting point is 00:44:00 what does child welfare look like? Well, we assess if this child is able to be returned or reconnected with family or if this child is someone that is seeking asylum and needs to find a adoptive family or a foster or a sponsor here in this country. But junk, this other thing that I talk about often is we haven't done anything about an immigration reform in this country since 1986. The Latinos that I hear from that said, well, I voted for Trump because Trump gave me, I voted for Trump because Ronald Reagan, a Republican gave me status. That's in people's mind. We haven't done anything in almost 40 years, Democrats, or Republicans. So it's just compounded, broken system that has brought us to this moment.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Yeah, all right, so let's talk about what actions Democrats can take in the area of Trump. And here I'm not just talking about immigration, I'm talking about broadly. So, you know, Donald Trump is doing a lot of things that are very aggressive that we don't agree with, etc. So what do you think is the best way to fight back for the Democratic Party? I think the very first rank, we got to stop seeing ourselves as a minority party and as opposition Party, and I've said this since November of last year. In so many countries where there is a fascist government, what other parties see themselves is as the opposition party.
Starting point is 00:45:18 The party that is going to do everything they can and use every tool possible to obstruct that authoritarian government from getting away with robbing democracy in that country. So I think for Democrats, we have to ask ourselves and look at ourselves in the mirror, frankly, and honesty and ask ourselves, are you using every single? single authority you have to block bills when needed, to force negotiations, to visit, for example, an immigration, go check on detention centers. Just because Nolm told you to send their email doesn't mean you don't have congressional oversight, show up, go to immigration court like I did yesterday, you know, make sure that we're not
Starting point is 00:45:55 just giving these suspension bills, Jen. Every Monday or Tuesday, when we come back, we go back literally next week on Tuesday. There are bills that require two thirds of members to vote on. Why the hell are we voting on those without saying, well, vote on those bills when we talk about appropriation. The point that I'm making is that we need to show the American people that we're doing everything in our power to fight back and just saying, well, we're the minority party. We're going to wait to November of 26.
Starting point is 00:46:25 It's not enough. People are terrorized right now, and they're worried that they might not even have a free and fair election come November 26th. Do you think democratic leadership is doing enough? I think democratic leadership is really stepping up and doing a lot more. But I would tell you as someone that yes, I'm still going to tell you that I have family who came to this country 35 years ago and still attempting to be able to regulate status and lives in the shadow that people on the ground do not feel like we're doing enough. There is much more to do. I told those suspension bills, I think we should be doing all sorts of shadow hearings. Now we're calling them congressional oversight forms.
Starting point is 00:47:02 We should be filing more lawsuits. Members of Congress don't usually fall lawsuits. There's one right now active. We should be using every litigation opportunity possible. Because in the courts, that's the place where we're seeing a little bit of that challenge and some of that co-equal branch of government in a fact that honestly I'm not seen in Congress. What do you think are the top issues that the Democrats should focus on? The economy, I would say is number one, it should have been.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And number one, it's always number one, people are asking themselves, how the heck am I going to ever put a down payment on that little house that promised my family and pay for the groceries and put that boy through college? The reality is that it is too darn expensive to be able to purchase a home. The groceries, I just went today because I'm one of those that actually goes to Aldi myself, $162 at Aldi, and I didn't buy me. So we have to have the conversations about what Donald Trump promised when he got sworn in, And the reality of this moment that our lives are not better since he got into office.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Terror force have only created the destabilization. But the other thing is, young people are literally living in fear. I have United States citizens who call my office and ask how can they get a second passport if they lose the passport they have because they now walk around with the passport out of fear that some person with a mask will say their eyes and detain them and deport them without due process. So how do we protect protect democracy, how do we protect people on the ground and how do we address the issues of economy? Yeah, we're talking to U.S. Congresswoman Delia Ramirez from Illinois. And so so far we've, and you're very right about that, we covered a story here about several
Starting point is 00:48:46 different women in different states who have been raped by masked men pretending to be ice agents, and you can't tell them apart from ice agents, because ice agents are also masks and also don't show badges. So it's scary stuff. Now, let's, you know, We've talked about defense so far against Trump's abuses. How about offense? Is there anything that the Democratic Party should be pushing now in terms of policy to say, this is what we stand for? I think that's a really good point because every time how I go to people say,
Starting point is 00:49:16 I think I kind of know what you're fighting against. Tell me what you're going to fight for. And it can just be that you're fighting for us to win the election come November 26th. That doesn't pay the bills. So I think that this is a moment for us to really have a deep conversation. about money and politics, for example, junk. The reality is that the health care is too darn expensive and not accessible because insurance companies and pharma has way too much
Starting point is 00:49:40 influence in the capital. The reality is that we're not actually addressing the issues of housing because developers and realtors have too much influence when it comes to DC. When we're talking about shared humanity and peace, let's be honest, APAC has a lot of control over Democrats and Republicans. So I would say to you that there are some things that we could be talking about just right now that we're going to take a stand on. And money in politics would be one of those. I'm one of 65 members of Congress that doesn't take corporate PAC contributions. If we want to show people that we are the party of the working class, then none of us should be taking corporate PAC contributions. I think that
Starting point is 00:50:18 we should be calling out these super PACs that have such influence over the elections. So I mean, that's music to my ears, of course. When I was one of the co-founders of just Democrats, I'm one of the folks who came with the no corporate PAC money rule and I love that it's now up to 65 people in Congress and it means that you're more honest because otherwise you're representing the donor class and not the voters. Now having said all that, the issue there is, in my opinion, most of the Democratic members of Congress and almost all of the Republican members of Congress are not honest. They are representing their donors, they are representing APAC, they are representing oil companies, drug companies, etc. So how do you deal with the fact that most of your party
Starting point is 00:51:01 is corrupt? And if you said it, I'm sure you won't say it here, because if you said it here, you'd be in a lot of trouble and there would be consequences. But if you don't say it, then you can't ever fix it. So how do you solve that unsolvable riddle? I think I would step back and say, what do we care most about? Do we actually want to see Medicare for our pass? We have what, 200 sponsors right now? And you hear people talk about this all the time. They're putting off that medical test because they have to choose between paying their mortgage or the rent or going to get a test that might save their life. All of these things that we say we care about, whether it's health care, housing, education, diversity, democracy, it is all bound by money
Starting point is 00:51:40 and politics. And I think that spending more time defending ourselves and saying that we're not elitist doesn't make us less elitist. Surely enough meeting people where they are, recognizing that things are not where they need to be and that perhaps new it promises we did not fulfill it's the first step that we get there and i think that this is a time and jack yeah sometimes i do hear it from my own party um that i'm just being too vocal about it but we need more authentic leaders in this moment like part of the reason that we are where we are is not just that people voted for trump people didn't vote period people felt like it doesn't make a difference while some of us were screaming how could you possibly think it doesn't make a
Starting point is 00:52:22 difference they're not the same candidates right but this is a moment where we have to ask ourselves what do we stand for how are we so different from the others and how do we take on corruption even when it means we have to take it on from the inside well so that okay one more tactical or strategic question there then because we and i have it seems the same goals right get money out of politics past these uh policies that democrats have that actually serves average person. I'm, you know, as cynical as you sound a little bit here in terms of your experience in Congress, multiply it by 200 for me. So I don't think your Democratic colleagues are honest at all. I think that the 200 co-sponsors for Medicare for all are illusory.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I think that, and I know that because Tim Ryan, for example, was a co-sponsor of Medicare for all. When he was running for president, I asked him, are you for Medicare for all? He said, I said, no, I said, why are you a co-sponsor? And it's just politics, they're gonna do what their donors want them to do, right? So that's all in prelude to asking you, okay, how do you deal with that? How do you deal with like, so for example, Marjorie Taylor Green, Tom Massey, and others in the Republican side, for all of their foibles and all of their things that I massively disagree with, at least have the courage to say, yeah, no, I think our leadership is wrong, I think we need to have this fight within the Republican Party, and I think we need to clarify what the Republican Party. party's about. On the Democratic side, if you do that, they'll take your head off. But they won't do it. They'll have the corrupt mainstream media attack you and try to find
Starting point is 00:53:59 scandals in your life and do a pile on, right? And so they work in nefarious ways and you're not really allowed to criticize them. So like my question to you is, shouldn't there be a more forceful fight within the Democratic Party and say no, Akim Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, do not represent us. These guys are working for all their donors, including A-PAC, and I don't agree with them. And I think that you're doing great damage to the Democratic Party. What happens if somebody says that? Because apparently you can't say that, because even the best Congress people don't say it, even though to me is super obvious. And to our viewers is super obvious. Jank, I think there's, I come from organizing. And I actually think that we should have more
Starting point is 00:54:46 organizers in Congress because you have to understand how to organize people. and organize resources. And while you may not hear me directly say that in every speech or every moment that I'm at a door, I am doing work and pushing back into our leadership and saying, we need to do better. We need to call out AIPAC. Leader Jeffries knows that I have said this to him on a number of occasions, so has a number of leaders from the Congressional Progressive Caucus, that we can't pick and choose which members we're protecting because some are more moderate than the others. But the reality is that, yeah, there is a lot of corruption in Congress. Absolutely. But I also have to push back on you, junk, because there are some people that I work with,
Starting point is 00:55:27 but I see that they are emotionally committed to this work. They take on the heat, both from Democrats and from the trolls onto the right side. We are constantly living through death threats that are pushing the fall. They're not going to stop. I think that maybe three, four years ago, that may have been three or four. We may be eight or nine now. The point is we have to keep growing that number. And while you may not always see the pushback and agitation we're doing, there's agitation that's public and there's agitation on the inside. And I think we need to be doing both of them. Yeah, no, no, I believe there's eight or nine. There might even be more. There's just, yeah, that leaves 200 other Democrats, though. So it's the math on that is not
Starting point is 00:56:07 great. So last thing, so do you believe that we should cut all funding to Israel? Israel. I do. Jank, I have a bill that blocks the bombs, that is offensive bombs. But personally, I think that what Israel is doing is indefensible. And sending one more dollar there is being complicit to what you are seeing that is happening every single day in Gaza and the West Bank. I think enough is enough. And you can't pick and choose what seems to be right in this moment when there is a genocide happening right now in Gaza, and we are funding it. All right, that is very clear. All right, Representative Delia Ramirez, thank you so much for joining us.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Really appreciate, appreciate the honest conversation, and thank you for not taking corporate PAC money, because that of course gives us a lot more faith in our representatives. All right, I hope to see you again soon. Thanks. All right, guys, we'll be right back. I don't know. Uh, uh,
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