The Young Turks - First Trump Official Behind Bars, Trump Jealous Of Kim Jong-Un

Episode Date: June 15, 2018

A portion of our Young Turks Main Show from June 12, 2018. For more go to http://www.tytnetwork.com/join.  Hour 1: Paul Manafort goes to jail. Hour 2: Trump wishes all Americans had to stand and salute him like Kim Jong-Un. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm very proud of it. joins us, John Idera is here. Jules, of course, a political journalist. He's editor-in-chief at Prompt Media. He's done some wacky things for Vice, Discovery, and now this before we talked about it the last time he was on Brent running in Kansas' third district, and he was a TYT member, former Wolfpack volunteer, Bernie Sanders delegate, introduced the amendment to get money out of politics of the Democratic platform.

So Brent, great to have you on the show. Hey, I'm so glad to be here. I've been watching TYT for I think since 2005 and been a longtime member and I just can't believe I'm here today. So, you know, thanks for having me and thanks so much for, you know, getting the word out about our campaign. It's so important. So you can tell Brent's a real TYT member because it was his idea to drop it, right?

I was like, really? I like that. Okay, so what we're doing is yesterday we did people's fundraiser for Brent. And so you guys know the context, there was a poll. poll that shows Brent leading the Republican incumbent by seven points. That's Kevin Yoder. He is one of the worst congressmen in the country, totally in bed with the payday lenders, takes more from them than including anyone in the Senate, which is unbelievable, because

he's just a congressman. And so Brent has him on the ropes, but unfortunately, here come Democratic establishment. They're like, oh, Brent's going to put away a Republican. Hold, let's try to stop that. So they brought in some big money people that worked for Trump. Yes, in the Democratic private, et cetera. So, T.RT, Kansas.com, we did this before, and he raised money for staffers. Did you bring the pictures?

We did. We did. I think you guys might have them. I don't know if we talked that through or not. Okay. Well, if you have the pictures, great. If not, we'll get them for you later. Well, I'll tell you, we have hired an amazing field staff. We were able to hire five new staffers because of the TYT army helping us out.

And they are just working so hard. We actually just in the last month have talked to 7,000 voters. And keep in mind that in the last primary like this, there was about 30,000 people that voted in our primary. And we still have two months to go. And we've just been expanding exponentially every week, every month on our campaign as we build the field team out. So it's just been absolutely important.

So I gotta tell you, before we show the new thermometer, so raising money for digital ads to compete. And I know the group in Washington that's going to drop money in Brent's campaign against them with probably about two weeks left in the election, and it's going to be a giant amount of money. We got to counter it. We could do it with less, but we need some money. You got to get name recognition out there, and you got to deliver on this.

So Brent's trying to raise $30,000 to be able to counter the outside groups that are coming in. We're going to show to you throughout. You actually did a fundraiser last night, like I said, people's fundraiser, and we raised a little bit of money. We'll put that on the thermometer, but let's look at it for the first time, okay? Let's get $40, just a start, it's a start, three people will put it. It's already hot, okay?

So we're trying to get the $30,000 there. Look, John did this before, all right, I'll do it to it, and I gotta up them, right? So we had 300 bucks left on the last fundraiser, and John said, or 600, and he said, if you guys come up with the $300, I'll match it. Okay, so come on, over the course of this show, can we get to $3,000 just today? Okay, if you guys put on $3,000, I'll put $301. Oh, yeah. That's some stakes.

I feel mildly outdone. And if I can say, you know, we are coming up to the end of a vital quarter. We have our primary on August 7th. You know, it's so important that we, you know, hit these benchmarks so we can do this digital program. Obviously, we're going to have a professional campaign with TV ads, you know, obviously we have a great field team mailings and everything. But it's so important we hit this $30,000 from the TYT Army before the end of the month. Because, you know, frankly, we've been, the last couple weeks, we've been falling a little

bit behind in our targets. TYT raised us $50,000 last quarter, and it's really been keeping us on track. And we absolutely need this. So if the TYT army can jump in and help us out, we're going to prove to everyone in the country that progress, bold progressive stances are not just good policy and not will just will not just help people, but it is the way to win even in Kansas. And we will be able to point to my race and say this is how we can win in any district in the entire country.

It's so important. Yeah, that's so right. If progressives win in the heart of Kansas against a really conservative congressman like Kevin Yoder, it means we can win anywhere and it'll be an amazing message. And last point in a half here on this is that, look, getting that money by that, you know, of the quarter is a double win, because then you have the money to compete in the election, but you also have the media who takes that stuff super seriously. So if you do well in fundraising, then they basically give you a lot more free media.

They go, oh my God, Brett Welder did well, and he outraised everybody, and that got him in a ton of press in Kansas. So it's a double win, so thank you guys, let's do it. Speaking of thank you, is at the end, you know, the half is that we got to raise the money, he's going to spend it, he already hired the staff, et cetera. But then you have to vote, okay? So that's the most important thing. That's awesome. So the primary in August.

By the way, this shirt designed by one of our viewers, Emron Sheik. So thank you, Imran. I love this one. This is my favorite. It's got money being washed out. Remember Brent, we've fought to get money out of politics. It's perfect. It's got the White House being watched out, and it says vote.

You can get this on shop t.com. Last thing on that is Father's Day is coming up. Overall guys, watch out it's a trap, but they'll save that for another show. show. But in this case, the one upside is 35% off on shopt.com. Okay? All right. And if I can just mention one last thing, it's just so everyone knows, TYT, Kansas.com, please go there right now and help us out. There's the link. You know, we can absolutely do this. I know we can. And I need your help. I absolutely do. I wouldn't be asking if we didn't need it so much. I'm up by seven points against the Republican incumbent. So we will be off to a great start, but I'm tied in the

primary and you guys can help us get over the end finish point at that point. That's exactly right. All right. So now we've got a ton of stories for you guys. John, I get a start. Big news of the day. A federal judge has revoked Donald Trump's former campaign manager's bail and sent him to prison earlier today to await two different trials after it was alleged that he was tampering with witnesses. Judge Amy Berman Jackson of United States District Court for the District of Columbia said that he could not remain free even under stricter which his lawyers had argued for in the face of new felony charges that he engaged in witness tampering while out on bail.

Now in previous shows, we have broken down the evidence that he was doing that witness tampering. It seems pretty clear to me at the time, multiple witnesses he was communicating with to attempt to coordinate stories with them. They instead went and spoke to the FBI, so he miscalibrated on that. To get you up to speed in case you haven't been following the Paul Manafort story so far, Manafort is currently facing a combined total of 25 charges spread over two venues. His Virginia trial is currently scheduled to begin on July 25th and his DC trial on September 17th. The charges focus on Manafort's lobbying and foreign work for pro-Russian Ukrainian interests prior to the campaign, his finances, and now alleged witness tampering as well.

So we're going to have a response from Donald Trump and from Donald Trump's legal team. But first, what do you think? So from time to time, they'll do these polling, and a great majority of Republicans believe that there have been no charges at all in the Russian election meddling situation. And unfortunately, a lot of people in the country believe that. And I believe it's a majority. Do you remember the poll? The majority of Americans believe there's no charges.

It was 75%, but I'm not sure if that was Republicans or in general. Right. So Manafort alone has 20. 25 charges. So now, some of them might or might not be related to the Russian meddling in this election. A lot of them are related to what he did before the election, also on behalf of the Russians, but he was Donald Trump's campaign manager during the election, and he has a ton of work that he's done with the Russians in the past.

And let alone the dozens of other indictments and charges that have been brought. So it is not true that there are no charges. There are a ton of charges, including 25 alone on Manafort. We need to talk about a relatively new show called Un-F-The-Republic or UNFTR. As a Young Turks fan, you already know that the government, the media, and corporations are constantly peddling lies that serve the interests of the rich and powerful. But now there's a podcast dedicated to unraveling those lies, debunking the conventional wisdom. In each episode of Un-F-The-Republic or UNFTA,

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And that's true whether you're in Jedi training or you're uprooting and exposing all the propaganda and disinformation you've been fed over the course of your lifetime. So search for UNFDR in your podcast app today and get ready to get informed, angered, and entertained all at the same time. Yeah, I do want to apologize, though, in the intro to that story, I'd referred to him as the former campaign chairman. It turns out he was actually a coffee boy for the campaign because now that he's in jail, the backpedaling on the history of Paul Manafort has begun. Donald Trump tweeted this, wow, what a tough sentence for Paul Manafort, who has represented

Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole, and many other top political people in campaigns. Didn't know Manafort was the head of the mob, although if he was, you would probably know Donald Trump. What about Comey and Crooked Hillary and all the others? Very unfair. Oh, he represented Ronald Reagan and Bob Dole and others. No current politicians. He wasn't the campaign chair for any of them.

He also lied about how long, or Trump lied about how long he had been the campaign manager, which is such a, we know when he started, we know when he left. It's not confusing at all that Trump is, again, lying about a specific fact. Like, why would we be surprised? Yeah. You know, and in a political organization, I mean, you know, the culture is started from the very top. And we have President Trump that lies and lies and lies and lies on a daily basis. You know, it goes from the top to the bottom of this organization.

What I, you know, what I'm hoping is that Mueller's team is going to be able to get him to flip on some key witnesses. And if we get evidence, you know, solid evidence against Donald Trump, which very well may end up happening, and if I'm in Congress, I'm going to be very happy to vote for impeachment of Donald Trump and make sure that he gets held accountable for, you know, for the problems that he's created throughout his entire organization. So, by the way, to just confirm what Jules saying, Trump has said that he was only with my campaign for 49 days. So in New York Times had fact checking, and it was 144 days. Now, look, he could have just set a short period of time and then you could argue over

what's short or not short. He just can't help himself. He's pathological. There's no indication under any way of counting that Manafort was with the campaign for only 49 days. He just picked that number out of nowhere and just decided to cut off about 100 days because he can't help himself. Well, on top of that, Manafort lived in Trump towers with Trump.

They would walk up and down the hallways. I think according to Manafort's daughter, so that they would hang out all the time. and they've known each other for 30 years. It's, how do you create this distance? Like, yeah, a couple weeks, if anything. I don't even know his last name. It's crazy. So to build on that, you can say, all right, well, maybe you live in an apartment building

with a guy you don't do business with him. What are you going to do, right? Okay, but wait a minute. He could have picked anyone as his campaign chairman. He had 330 million people to choose from it, if you include some Russians, even more. Okay, so, and out of all those Americans, he decided, I'll take Manafort, the guy who's been known to have ties, whether they were illegal or not, is new, right?

Although some suspected, but new. But everybody knew that he worked with the Russians, Manafort did. And out of all the people in the country, he's like, out of all the Republicans strategists, et cetera, et cetera, he just happened to pick the one that had all these incredibly deep ties to the Russians. Yet another coincidence tying him to the Russians. Well, I'll tell you, I don't think he's going to have any problem counting the days anymore because you can just count the chalk lines on the jail cell wall. Look, I don't know in the end after we have these two trials or after Mueller reveals

all the information he's been gathering. I don't know if there's going to be any connection, anything that Paul Manafort has done that is illegal, except in reference to Paul Manafort. It could just be that he was trying to enrich himself and he was, you know, he was lobbying where he shouldn't, and he was doing money laundering and all that. But if it turns out that that's all it is, I am 100% fine. with that. It's so bizarre that in the context of all these investigations that the conservatives, the Republican Party, their pundits who previously had loved to tout how law and order they were

and pro-criminal justice, like they don't care at all about whether he broke the law. Tucker Carlson tweeted earlier today, they've locked up the 69-year-old Paul Manafort. The streets are safe again. Like his age matters, like, well, yeah, you can break any law you want if you're collecting Social Security. It's totally cool then. What is that even supposed to mean? He's tampering with witnesses. You've seen the evidence.

It's obvious and they don't care. And of course, it's not just the pundits. It's also Donald Trump, who has asked about this while he was wandering around the White House lawn earlier today. And he said, I feel badly about a lot of it because I think a lot of it is very unfair. Manafort has nothing to do with our campaign, but I tell you, I feel a little badly about it. Jesus.

He was your campaign chairman. I'm pretty sure he has everything to do with your campaign. But I'll double down on what John said. If it turns out, investigators look into it, and they go, look, no, this was about the former leader of Ukraine that he had a crooked deal with in this group in Europe that he called a Hobsford group, and those are the guys he was trying to witness tamper with. But it really had nothing to do with Trump, and Trump didn't do it. It was Manafort. Great, then get Manafort. And then Trump's not guilty of that.

We actually care about justice. We actually care about the facts and truth and reality. If you said to me, you can get Trump, but you have to make up facts that. Manafort's connected to him, I'd say no, don't do that, right? That's not the American way. But the other side seems to think of it as in terms of tribalism. If they're on my side, I don't care about the rule of law at all. If they're on your side, I want to lock them up no matter what, no matter what, they did it,

they didn't do it. And finally, look, the reason why Manafort actually going physically to prison today is a big deal is He's lived a very lavish lifestyle for a long time with the money that he got from the Russians, etc., which it turns out 25 counts indicate that maybe ill-gotten gains. And he's used to that lifestyle. Now he's wearing an orange jumpsuit. He's not used to that lifestyle. So that's why they think, well, minus the pardon issue, which is gigantic, obviously.

This might make him uncomfortable enough to flip if he has anything on Trump. Do you remember, it's the, I mean, the story, there's so much that happens. We actually have a segment on the damage report at the end of every week where we have people tweet in the things they hope people don't forget about that happened this week. But do you remember when they showed what he had spent about a million of the dollars he'd raised on and it was like $200,000 on, $2,000 on Oriental rugs and a million dollars on suits and ties and things like that? This is a guy who loves luxury.

We'll see if he gets it there. All that criminality because of rugs, it's just, look, I don't know, everybody's different, right? For me, you spend it on vacations, you're on a boat somewhere, and you're having the time of your life, I get it. You spent $200,000 on a rug, I just don't get it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Jank doesn't mind if you commit crimes if you're a pirate. But land-based crime, he's rough on. Well, you mentioned the pardons.

Why don't we turn to that section of this now? So what in the end will end up happening to Paul Manafort? He is in jail right now. He's awaiting two different trials. But Donald Trump has recently been thinking about pardons quite a bit, thanks to Kim Kardashian. And so there's the possibility that Donald Trump will get involved. Rudy Giuliani, who is Donald Trump's lawyer or spokesman or bro, I don't know at this point what formal role he holds.

But he was talking about this today. And he said, when the whole thing is over, things might get cleaned up with some presidential Pardons. And Donald Trump was asked about this earlier today, and he said that he didn't want to talk about it, but that he thought that Paul Manafort had not been being treated fairly, and he's previously said that he would use pardons to make things fair. Not necessarily specifically with Paul Manafort, but you can theoretically connect it to. I think this is scary because the charges that Manafort is facing aren't directly tied to

this Russian investigation. So if he pardons Paul Manafort, it sets a precedent that he's going to continue part He started small, he started with Sheriff Arpaio, thank you. And he slowly moved up the ladder, Dinesh D'Souza. Now if he pardons Manafort, it's not that disconnected. He's slowly entering this world of like, okay, well now I'm gonna pardon people that are directly associated to me. Now I'm gonna pardon people who are directly associated to the investigation.

I think it's a terrifying precedent if you pardons him. Even so, Jules, I think you're being too soft on. No, look, there's no question about it. At New York Times, I'm sorry, New York Daily News in one of the stories that I read, bothered to talk to a bunch of former federal prosecutors, criminal defense attorneys, and they're like, well, you can't read Giuliani's mind. If he has intent to obstruct justice, then it would be obstruction. But without that, it probably is not obstruction.

But it certainly seems to be a signal that, hey, Manafort, even though you're in prison, hang in there, we're going to pardon you. to which I say, of course, of course. Why would Giuliani say when the whole thing's over might get cleaned up with some presidential pardons in regard to Manafort? He's clearly, obviously, for any sane human being telling Manafort, don't worry, don't flip on us, because we're going to pardon you. It's like the first time ever that the head of a criminal organization has the power

of the pardon. I mean, can you imagine if the mob boss could be like, hey, Donnie, hang in there, don't worry about it, okay? I'll pardon you. Is that Chris Christie you're doing? I don't know. And the ironic thing about this is that Manafort is going to jail for witness tampering. He needs to take some lessons from Donald Trump on witness tampering because he did it through

a private encrypted app, whereas Donald Trump just says his witness tampering out in the open. You know, through his lawyers, he does it during tweets. He does it constantly. And, you know, and I think that's maybe he's found a legal loophole for that. But, you know, it's just another example of him setting the same. kind of culture at the top of his organization, and I'm not surprised at all that it's finally starting to catch up with them. Yeah, and Brent, I want to add two things to that.

So Trump himself, when asked about whether he would pardon Manafort and Cohen, said, I don't want to talk about that. No, I don't want to talk about that. If he left it at that, that's totally fine. But he continued. At TYT, we frequently talk about all the ways that big tech companies are taking control of our online lives, constantly monitoring us and storing our data. But that doesn't mean we have to let them.

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doesn't have to do with protecting themselves are people that are wildly disingenuous or maybe work in the mainstream media and have to go, oh, he says this and she says this, and what would I know? What am I a reporter? Right? But even the MAGA guys, you know what that's about. It's not about something else, not about a plumber, it's not about a dentist. They're saying, hey, well, pardon you, don't talk.

Which, by the way, for the first time, I've never been sure that Manafort had anything on Trump. I'm positive. Michael Cohen has things on Trump. He was panicked when Michael Cohen was, had his stuff that was seized, et cetera, et cetera. Carter Page, there's good reason. There's a lot of, it's varying degrees of what we can guess from the outside based on publicly available evidence. But now, Giuliani coming out, Trump hinting at it, and then Julie's just flat out saying, don't, like, we'll pardon you means, oh, that he talked to Trump and Trump said,

oh, he's got terrible stuff on me. Make sure he doesn't flip. He's in prison now. Make sure he doesn't flip. Promise to pardon. Yeah. And I think, I understand that there's probably some people. There's a certain percentage of Americans that either think that talking about possible

pardons is too esoteric or too inside baseball or they don't really care about. Paul Manafort specifically, or maybe they don't care about these investigations more broadly. They think you're focusing too much on what's going on in Washington, why are you talking about this? But I think that we are at an incredibly important point in our country with huge possibility for precedent to be set in the future. If you care about any oversight or consequences for what presidents do, what governments do, you can rest assured that right now, every other politician in the country is waiting to see what's going to happen with Donald Trump. because we all say the president can do this.

So the president can't do that. All of that is hypothetical. And it only means something if there are consequences when they take an action, we say they can't do. And I'm telling you right now, when it comes to pardoning Manafort or Flynn or his son or himself, the Republican Party will do absolutely nothing if he does it. So I don't care what a DOJ memo from the 70s said or what the Constitution has to say about it. From the Republican Party, there will be zero consequences no matter who he pardons and what he pardons them for. And if he is allowed to get away with that, there will be no consequences for

any president, for any action for the rest of time. And for progressives, that is not a state that we can allow to come about. And so even if Paul Manafort, like, bores you or frustrates you or you think that we talk too much about Trump, if you care about the future and holding future politicians accountable, you cannot afford to stay silent on this issue. You cannot afford to check out on this issue. You have to make your voice heard. You have to make sure that there are consequences if Donald Trump does what he's apparently promising he's going to do. And you know, this is one other reason that's why it's so important that we flip the House of Representatives to Democrats, because Democrats will then have investigatory power over the

Trump administration's subpoena power. We need to get to the bottom of this. I don't trust the Republicans that are running Congress right now to do anything about that. And the people deserve answers. This is the most powerful, this is the man that runs our country, one of the most powerful people in the entire world. And, you know, we need to get to, we need to get to the bottom of so much of this. So will Congress do anything? It does depend on a couple of things. If the Democrats control it, they obviously can't.

If the Republicans, it'll be much harder. But John, there are some scenarios under which the Republicans would impeach if their poll numbers are disastrous right before the election, if the markets have crashed enough that their donors call them and say, we're done with this guy. So there are some scenarios. But John is right to sound the alarm, because if they don't do anything, which right now If he did it today, I'm with you, John. They wouldn't do anything.

They wouldn't impeach him, no way. And then the rule of law is trashed in this country. But it's actually, believe it or not, one step worse than that. And this is a significant step because this is not being talked about enough. Giuliani also said, it's time for justice to investigate the investigators. So when I said on the show that they're going to start arresting their political opponents if we let them get away with it. At the beginning, people are like, oh, you're being alarmist, that's crazy, not in America. But now he's saying, why don't we just arrest Giuliani?

The president's lawyer is saying, why don't we investigate the guy's investigating Trump? Why don't we throw them in jail? That's what that means. So if he, let's say, gets rid of Mueller, fires Mueller, fires Rosenstein, does whatever he does, or Mueller comes out and the Republicans go, I don't care. Even if Mueller got him, Mueller got him on money laundering, Mueller got him on something deeply criminal. If they say they don't care, the next step is they start locking up their political opponents. And Giuliani just told you that.

Scary times for America. All right, we got to take a quick break, guys. So we have a lot more coming out for you guys, including whether snatching people's children away from them or not is biblical or not. It's an interesting conversation. Thanks for listening to this podcast. You're only halfway through. So hold, hold, stay right here. Just want to remind you if you want to get all five segments of the Young Turks commercial free, these are just two of them.

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And by the way, she's got a great podcast. It's called Go Fact Yourself. Okay. You can say it just like that too. Go fact yourself. She's been on Arsenio Hall. Hall, last call with Carson Daly, and the list goes on and on. Connor Paolo joins us.

Hey, Connor, how you doing, brother? I'm doing well, I'm doing well. All right, excellent. Connor's been in almost a million things. Mystic River Alexander, look, I like Oliver Stone a lot. I've interviewed him three, four times. Did he tell you guys to speak in all different accents or no? No, the idea was that the Macedonians were lower class, so they had this idea that they

would have the Irish accents and that the Greeks were. be English. So it was a way to differentiate the statuses. Oh, except for Angelina Jolie who had a Greek accent, but still. Yes. Anyway, fun for everybody. World Trade Center, Gossip Girl. You're now in Brian Cranston's produced Anthology series, Philip K. Dix's Electric Dreams. That's so good. Yes, that's on Amazon Studios. So great to have you with us. Thank you for having me with you. And of course, the legendary Anna Casparian. Legendary.

So I'll read a couple of comments, and then Anna's got a ton of stories for you guys. Jim Lawrence wrote in on YouTube's super chat, which we always appreciate. ICE is turning into Trump's domestic enforcers. I'm worried about that. I am worried about it. The guys on Twitter were a little bit harsher. Vance said there is more evidence that ICE organization is just a new form of a Gestapo. And then Jim said the Nazis told the Jews that they were giving them a bath.

They never came out of that room. So, Jim, I alluded to that yesterday, the idea of telling the parents, they're going to take the kids away so they can give them a bath. They had to find a better excuse. It's just chilling. That's not what's happening, okay? We're not at that end, okay? But it's knowing just a tiny bit of history, you don't tell people that you're snatching away that you're going to give them a bath. That's terrible, right?

So, okay. So we'll check it on TYT cans later, actually, because we have a thousand stories here for you guys. And let's get started. All right. There was an impromptu interview with Fox News and Donald Trump this morning. And the interview was lengthy and also a bit rambly. But there was one portion of it that really stood out to critics of Trump, but also to conservatives as well. because he has been going around town saying very complimentary things about Kim Jong-un.

He said other complimentary things about other authoritarian leaders around the world. And so in the middle of this interview, he says this. And they can change the whole border security. We need a wall. We need border security. We got to get rid of catch and release. You catch a criminal. You've seen Mr. Kim here at the White House?

It could happen. I mean. They talked about that yesterday. I would have him. Yeah, I think it's something that could happen. Yeah, hey, he's the head of a country, and I mean, he's the strong head. Don't let anyone think anything different. He speaks and his people sit up at attention.

I want my people to do the same. So he points to the White House and says, I want my people to do the same. So of course, that alarms people because he seems to have an affinity for authoritarianism. And he said all these incredible compliments about Kim Jong-un. And then, you know, again, the context of that statement was, he's the head of the country, and I mean he is a strong head. Don't let anyone tell you anything different. He speaks and his people sit up at attention.

I want my people to do the same. It's crazy. It's shocking. It's absolutely shocking. And even the fact that he was like, he sits, it was like halfway to just go there. Just go all the way there. I mean, because that's what you're looking for. There's no acknowledgement that the people sit up at attention because they're under threat of

to imprisonment and torture. It's the malignant narcissistic personality disorder where you don't care how you get adulation, you just want that adulation. Yeah, and he sees it, you know, the fact that he looks at Kim Jong-un and is like, that's the guy that I want. It's so chilling.

And this whole summit, you know, being of South Korean descent and just seeing this whole summit play out has just been so chilling. Seeing the flags, our flag next to the North Korean flag, I mean, this is a guy that has executed multiple family members. This is a guy that in his country, every household has a photo of him, and if you don't bow down to the photo of him, you will get hauled off and murdered. I mean,

it's just bonkers, you know, and for Trump to be like, yeah, this is my guy, this is the buddy that I want to emulate, is just insane. Helen, I mean, you say dragged off and murdered. He says strong head. He's a strong head. I wonder what he would have called Stalin. He was also strong head, right? And by the way, it's, so Stalin was one of the biggest murderers in human history. But Kim Jong-un is on a, might be on a smaller scale because he just commands over less people. But it's not that far apart. He has concentration camps. The North Korean regime is absolutely brutal and has killed countless people and treats its citizens worse than any country on earth right now and is a dictator that pretends to be a communist, much like Stalin.

And so, but for Trump, even if you were to give him the enormous benefit of the doubt, which he does not deserve in any way, shape, or form, and say that he was joking when he said he wants his people to sit up at attention and I want my people to do the same, imagine if Obama had said that, joking or otherwise. Well, Obama caught a lot of heat for signing executive order. He caught a lot of heat for doing things unilaterally without Congress's involvement. And so I just find it so fascinating that the very people who criticized Obama for being too authoritarian in their eyes are now supporting Trump and supporting all the different things

that he's done unilaterally, right? He's alienated himself from his own aides. He doesn't want their advice. He refuses to, or says he's going to refuse to sign any type of bipartisan legislative. pertaining to immigration reform. He does things on his own. And he's signed countless executive orders early on in his first term, hopefully his only term. By the way, what was his excuse for that statement that he made because reporters wanted

to know, like, are you serious? What's going on? So following that interview with Fox and Friends, a reporter asked him, what did you mean just now when you said you wished Americans would sit up at attention? And here's what he said. I'm kidding. You don't understand sarcasm. Hey, who are you with? You're with CNN? Hey, you're the worst. Can you imagine if Obama had said that? I mean, once Obama tweaked Fox News and wondered if... Hungry now. Now?

What about now? Whenever it hits you, wherever you are, grab an O. Henry bar to satisfy your... your hunger. With its delicious combination of big, crunchy, salty peanuts covered in creamy caramel and chewy fudge with a chocolatey coating. Swing by a gas station and get an O'Henry today. Oh, hungry, oh Henry. They were really fair and balanced, and everybody flipped out. They're like, how could you, how could the president try to intimidate the press that way by attacking Fox News? Yeah. I mean, look at what Trump is done. If Obama was going around I mean, and within the context that Trump has, if Obama, when he, now, if we know he, he normalized relationships with Cuba, the same guy as Sean Hannity, et cetera, we're like,

how dare you, they're brutal communist dictators, and we can't meet with them. And if Obama joked around, like, hey, Fidel Castro's a strong head, okay, and he gets his people to pay attention, just like I want, right? You think that Sean Hannity would have been like, oh, no, no, it's okay, he's just kidding. One of the things that I think Plato said preceded the fall of any great society was among other things rank partisanship as just a manner of course. And I feel like that's not, it's just expected now that you cheer for your team regardless of objective reality. You know, just to comment on that quickly, I was on a show called Left, Right and Center. NPR usually carries it, but it's a local show here, a radio show.

And Rich Lowry, who writes for the National Review, edits the National Review, he was the person representing the right. And I was kind of shocked at how reasonable he is, because it's a rarity these days. People are unwilling to bend when it comes to understanding other perspectives and at least acknowledging when the other side is right. And so it's a really scary world we're living in when the partisanship is that, you know, divisive. Because we're moving further away from objective reality. Right. But also because the Republican Party is now the Trump Party, it's no longer like traditional republicanism.

And so, and we just had these primary elections where if you're a Republican, you say something against Trump, off with your head, you're gone. And so I think if you're a Republican in power, like in a seat right now, you're like, ooh, I can't, you know, I could say something against Trump. I definitely don't agree with him. But if I do, my seat is gone. Right. And that's, it's crazy.

It's bonkers how much, you know, the, the, the, the, the, you know, the, the, Republicans have just dug in, like, Trump's our guy, and we support everything he does, and if you don't support him, then you're gone. Like, it's just, it's nuts. Yeah, that's creeping authoritarianism. And so I also wanted to show you a quick clip of Trump earlier this week, talking about the president of China, just a little context for you. The president of China did away with term limits, which would allow him to serve as president

indefinitely. So that's pretty undemocratic. And Trump was asked what he thought about that. Here's what he had to say. I have a very good relationship with President Xi of China. He's an incredible guy. They just, you know, essentially president for life. Yeah.

It's pretty good. He says it over. He says wistfully. He's like, he's just president for life. Wouldn't that be amazing? No, guys, he's not joking. He says it over and over and over again. And he acts it out, too.

He just, he keeps saying in public, I wouldn't have hired Jeff Sessions if I knew that he was going to enforce the law. If I knew that he wasn't going to recuse himself because of a conflict division. That's what Sessions is supposed to do is the attorney general of us, the United States of America and its citizens, not the president's lawyer. He just doesn't understand that concept and doesn't believe in that concept. He wants, he's like, I don't get it. Why doesn't everybody sit up in attention? I want. I'm the leader of the country.

Why can't I be president for life? Why can't, why get, because you're not a dictator. We didn't elect you to be a dictator. We elected you to represent us. Yeah. And he's just not doing it. I think he thinks he's king. Like I legitimately think, he thinks I became, I was elected to king.

Here I am and king me. Like, why are all you use subjects not bowing down? And the fact that he's saying great things about Kim Jong-un and the president of China, while apparently there's a special place in hell for Canada? Like, what? Right. Are we living in the upside down right now? Like, what is happening?

I love that you brought that up, though, because I think that he just, he doesn't respect, you know, diplomatic, nice politicians. Justin Trudeau, I mean, the press conference that he gave after the G7 meeting was, it was, it was tame, right? It was tame compared to what something Trump would do. He's Canadian and Canadians are polite. Exactly. Polite is a better way of putting it.

And Justin Trudeau did exactly what any leader of any country would do in response to tariffs. We're not going to be pushed around. We are going to have retaliatory tariffs. That makes all the sense in the world. But since he's not a jerk about it and he doesn't carry himself as, you know, some authoritarian, you know, leader, Trump saw that his weakness and talked about how. how weak he thinks Justin Trudeau is. He's weak and he's meek.

Those were the two words that he used to describe him. He doesn't respect you if you are professional and responsible in your job. I think it's like what he said about the run-up to the North Korea summit where he said it's not about the research I did, it's about the attitude. He doesn't really listen to the content of what people say. It's the way they present themselves. And if you speak quietly or with a certain amount of deliberation, that's weakness. You shout, you're right, and you're intelligent.

That was one of the funniest things that I heard leading up to the North Korea summit that Trump wasn't, like, boning up on his, like, pages and pages of dossier. It's like, of course he's not. He's just, like, I'm just going to see what the guy's like. I'm just going to be like, yeah, bro. He said it's about attitude. It's about touch. If I like him, it's cool.

He said that he would know if they were going to have a deal within the first minute of meeting him. Well, how do you know if he's going to agree to UN inspectors or? Or not? No, it's all about attitude. No, it's not. It's about the facts. It's unbelievable. And then it turned out he knew within seconds because he was like, I'm honored to me.

When he told Kim Jong and the dictator of North Korea, it's an honor. I was like, what is happening right now? You do not say that to someone who just murders his people. Has family members executed summarily? Like, what world are we living in? I think you got it. I think you nailed it, the upside down world. The upside down world.

Yeah, so I just wanted to mention some other news that came out following this North Korea summit that should boggle your mind. So there have been additional leaks from the White House indicating that when Donald Trump arrived to Singapore, he had decided that he wanted to meet with Kim Jong-un a day earlier than what was planned. And individuals like Sarah Huckabee Sanders had to sit him down and convince him that that was a terrible idea. They had to tell him, you should probably spend this extra day to prepare, which of course he had no interest in. But the only thing that did seem to convince him was that

if they had met earlier than what was planned, then it wouldn't get as much media coverage, planned media coverage than the original plan. And so then he finally caved and said, all right. But his response to them was initially, well, we're all here. Why can't we just do it today. I'm bored. Yeah, yeah. The child president is bored. And so if President Joffrey wants the summit, he wants it now, he wants it now. Why can't we do it now? And they're like, Mr. President, we have to prepare. It's really important. We, we, our diplomats have to prepare. These are negotiations. But remember, the knucklehead thinks, and he literally said, I'll know within the first minute of meeting him, we're going to have a deal. So, but if you think

that way and you think diplomacy is irrelevant, facts are irrelevant, checking with your allies is irrelevant. He again surprised all of our allies by giving away the farm to Kim Jong-un in the negotiations. Then you think, yeah, why don't we just do it now? What are you guys preparing for? There's nothing to prepare. I'm just going to see how much of a tough guy he is. And if he's really strong, I'll give him everything. And if he's weak, I'll run him over. Well, it turns out he said afterwards, he's a great negotiator. He's great. I didn't know that. He's really smart. I mean, one out of 10,000 can take over from their dad and be a dictator.

No, one out of one can. Anyone would be a great negotiator if the person you're negotiating with concedes right away. Right? I mean, he's conced. And look, again, I know that there are going to be follow-up negotiations. At least that's what Mike Pompeo claims. That's what Donald Trump claims. But even so, Trump has publicly said on numerous occasions that he wants to stop the provocative war games.

Now, you might dislike the provocative war games, and I hear you on that, but that is a bargaining chip that he has already given away. He has already given it away. And then after the conference, he gave away another bargaining chip. He's like, I want to take out all of our troops. No, no, no, not go ahead. That is the only thing that is bringing Kim Jong-un to any sort of table. And the fact that we signed this flimsy piece of paper that's super vague and is like, sure,

The denuclearization of Korea's some time. What? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we'll give you the war games and we'll probably give you some money and like no problem. And Kim Jong-un is like, I am the king. Like, I'm the bomb. Like, I just got so much stuff and I signed some very vague piece of paper. So here is Trump's response to all this criticism because it's really bothering him.

He wants us to give him a cookie. And so he's upset that he's getting the hate. Let's go to Graphic 19. He says, there, meaning North Korea, they're doing so much for us. And now we're on our way to get denuclearization. And the agreement says there will be total denuclearization. Nobody wants to report that. So the only thing I did was I met.

I got along with him great. We have great chemistry together. That's a good thing, not a bad thing. I met with Stalin. We had Greek chemistry. It was wonderful. Bad muscle. We went on a Tinder date.

He thought it was hot. So, again, I want to be super clear about this. I'm glad they met. I want there to be peace negotiations. And I've said this a million times, whether it was Democratic president or Republican president, whether it's Iran or North Korea. You don't get to make peace deals with your friends. You make them with your enemies.

So it began totally fine. And Anna and I said a million times on the show, we're glad he's doing it. Let's see what happens. But what they got out of it was not total denuclearization. No, Kim Jong-Luant said, sure, yeah, I'll do that eventually. That's when a smart person goes, oh, okay, great, how, when, what are the details? Hey, I've got all these negotiators here. I've got all my allies here.

So I know there are certain things you want, like you want us to stop doing joint military exercises. You want us to take troops out. I'm not going to do that unless you give me X, Y, Z. Exactly. But the idiot, worst negotiator in the world, Donald Trump comes in. and goes, okay, oh, you said you're going to eventually do it. Great. Okay, then I'm going to stop joint military.

So you just gave him something real in return for nothing, right? So are there, is he going to allow inspectors in to see if they have a nuclear program? No. Has he given us anything? No. And then the schmach comes down and goes, we're going to take all of our troops out because I don't like them there anyway. God damn it, I want peace.

We all desperately want peace. We desperately don't want North Korea to have nuclear weapons. But in order to get that, you've got to actually do real negotiations. I mean, look at what Anna said. To me, that was one of the most, I mean, and you know it with Trump, and it's not surprising, but it really is so painful. The only way they convince them is not because they needed more preparation, et cetera. The only reason he waited to do it was they said, remember, if we do it on Monday,

it'll be Sunday night and you won't get as good ratings on TV. He's like, oh, good point. Good point. I want the good ratings. Okay, we're going to wait. We're going to wait. It's a big reality show. And I just had the imagery of, you know how you do the monkey giving away the banana? Yeah, yeah. I just thought of Trump that way because that's exactly what he did with his bargaining chip in this negotiation.

I actually had the image of being on a first date, like being on a first Tinder date. And you're like, I'll show up at the lobster restaurant. And then you order like the salad. And then suddenly you're like, I'll do a threesome. You didn't get the lobster yet. Slow your roll. Get the surf and turf before you agree to a threesome. Slow your lobster roll.

It's especially when the Iran deal had these conditions. It had the inspectors. It had a timeline. They gave up uranium, and that was weak sauce. But this, which is a handshake agreement, probably because Kim Jong-un said, you know, you look great today, is great. That's more than enough.

Yeah. And I'll say one last thing about what Anna said. look, everybody thinks he's, the Republicans think he's an alpha male. And within their context, he is. Because he bullies them. And then Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz and all these guys come up and go, and they submit to him, right? But the minute that he runs up against anyone who's actually strong,

he immediately goes, I take the troops out. I end the military exercise. He's not an alpha male. That's why Democrats, they drive me nuts. You have to outstrong him. If you did, he bows his head. He's a very simple, primitive person, okay? He's a knuckle-drager.

He's a mouth breather. All you have to do is show him strength, and he will bow down. But they don't have the courage or the ability to do that. You just have to believe the words coming out of your mouth if you're going to show strength. You can't be speaking someone else's script and still hold fast in your beliefs. Yeah. Yeah. All right, we got to take a quick break.

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