The Young Turks - Floods & Fire

Episode Date: September 29, 2022

Hurricane Ian hits Florida hard. Joe Manchin and his bills continue his pattern of epic failure. A GOP official wants women who choose to get abortions to be charged with murder. Marjorie Taylor Greene is holding the most insane contest, involving wild hogs and helicopters. The Alex Jones trial revealed that Sandy Hook parents were sent pictures of dead kids by hoaxers. A study shows that millions would use force to restore Donald Trump as president. Host: John Iadarola, Emma Vigeland Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Welcome, everyone, it's Emma Vigland and also me. I'm technically here. It's the Young Turks, everyone. I'm John Adirola, sitting in for Jank Uy. You're taking the spot of Anna Kasparian today. My old nemesis, Emma Vigland. How's it going? Hmm, I prefer frenemy. I prefer frenemy if we're really gonna, if we're really gonna get into it here, John. Because we have our moments, but we're always battling one another, like it's a real housewife situation. That is true. We apparently right before we went live, we were maybe in agreement on something regarding pop culture. We're gonna have to return to that during one of our social breaks.

But I'm very excited to have you here for people who might, you know, be new to the channel to the network. You might not know that Emma worked here for a number of years, but since mid 2020 or so, you've been doing an amazing job at the majority report. And you also just a month ago launched another endeavor. You want to tell us about that? Sure, thank you. Very professional to seamlessly plug this, John. I started a- It's not seamless anymore, by the way. Well, yeah, I mean, I've pointed out the seams. But I started a sports show called ESVN, and we We do it weekly Mondays on the Majority Report Channel. And we also do a bonus episode where I give my picks against the spread for the NFL week.

But for the most part, it's a it's a leftist pro labor, pro player perspective on sports. And it's honestly sorely needed given the barstoolification of sports and the macho culture that's surrounding it. So trying to provide some sort of counterbalance as well, you can check out that show if you so choose. I actually didn't know that that was, that there was an ideological focus. I actually love that and kind of wish that I understood literally the bare minimum about sports to understand it. But no, I like that. That's actually awesome that you make that available and you have the bonus episode. For viewers, if you want my picks against the spread, it's available to tier three subscribers or whatever.

Is that a D&D thing? I don't know. Anyway. Just send envelopes of cash directly to John if you want, spread picks against the spread from him. Anyway, very glad to have you here, especially because we have a great rundown of stories to get into. But we're going to be starting off with the big domestic news story of the day.

So why don't we jump right into this? What you're seeing there is a little sample of Hurricane Ian. And to be clear, the camera that is taking that video is six feet off the ground. And that's video when it was visible. It's been underwater for some time. Actually, here is a photo provided by Mike Betts about the normal view from that exact same camera. So just to put into perspective what the storm surge, what I believe right now is, was being called tied for the fifth worst hurricane in American history in terms of intensity

of the wind. Hurricane Ian actually just hit earlier today and following a period of rapid intensification moved up to category five. I'm not sure at this particular moment if it's maintained that it is expected that of course it will weaken over time. But the eye of the hurricane reached shore just after 3 p.m. earlier today, this is Eastern time. So several hours ago, So yeah, it's considered one of the most powerful storms to strike the U.S. in literally decades. And forecasters are warning of a lot of damage that could be done. There were warnings for days in advance of people like how they should flee. Unfortunately, as is always the case, some did not.

In fact, here's some footage of people attempting to swim in the storm surge. So I don't know if it was clear there, but there was initially a group of three men on the left side of the video. One's head went under the water and within maybe two seconds was thrown all the way to the far right hand side of that. I understand there's always going to be people like this, you know, risk takers, daredevils, it is incredibly dangerous. Not only the risk of drowning, but in these sorts of storm surges, there's all sorts of toxins and pollutants in that water. Not only that, there's the threat of electrocution. There are a number of different dangers. And so I'm sure people facing the full brunt of hurricane in right now know how bad it is and

don't need another warning, but you got to take this thing seriously. Emma, I'm sure, you know, you're much higher up on the coast, obviously, but I'm sure you've been following this. What do you think about this hurricane? Yeah, and for everybody that's, I mean, there are always going to be idiots who engage in that kind of stuntery where they're, they're trying to see. swim or have a story to tell. But the majority of the people that remain in that area or a good chunk of them, I should say, are people who probably have nowhere to go. Yeah. Probably are,

are, you know, can't afford a flight. I know flights out of the area have been really spotty at best. And maybe just don't have the financial resources to leave. There have been stories of different employers, and I'm blanking on the employer's name actually, suggesting, that hey, maybe you could just stay here, stay overnight. We have air mattresses. And so we could keep the work churning out as long as you just shelter in place at your place of work. For a lot of people, there are not enough protections to allow them to stay out of work,

to lose potentially wages if they don't have their salary guaranteed and say they're a gig worker during this time period who don't have the resources to leave. And also are might, so they might be experience water damage and effects from the storm on their actual person and on their home, but also will experience significant financial loss, even if their home remains intact, right? This is devastating in a variety of different ways. And we're going to see more and more of these, of course, as the effects of climate change begin to be more acutely felt even than they are right now, which is quite acute. Exactly. Yeah. And you see something like that, you see how these storms are getting worse and the rapid intensification

I talked about earlier is affecting more and more storms, so there's less warning that the storms are going to be as bad as they are. That is why it is so indisputable at this point about how bad climate changes, which is why all Florida politicians agree that we need to be prioritizing dealing with the climate crisis, just to inject a bit of sarcasm into the somber story. In any event, let's talk, oh, by the way, thank you again for reminding people that, you know, don't don't lump the daredevils in with elderly people who can't just pack up and leave, the unhoused, a number of people. So that is a great point to make. Right now, at least when it hit, winds are over 150 miles per hour. Actually, you can see here a map of how bad the storm

surge is going to be across a pretty wide area right there, 12 to 18 feet expected in some areas, which would be literally unprecedented at this point. Homes have already been destroyed, Boats were seen floating through streets in Fort Myers, which is where I believe that initial video we showed you was. But not just boats, take a look at this. Yeah, that was a shark. And I believe this one's authentic. Every time there's a hurricane, people send out photos of a shark next to a car or whatever. That's not real. This apparently actually was, although bear in mind it's Florida, there's

gators everywhere. A shark in the streets isn't as amazing as it would be in some other place, but still another reminder to not be in the water if you can avoid it. And for those who might be further inland, here is a map, it's one of the more recent maps I was able to find about the expected path of the hurricane, bearing in mind that that is where scientists say it's going to go, you can take a Sharpie to it if you want, but that's not actually going to change the path of the hurricane. So bear that in mind. Yeah, well, gators are facing off against sharks. That sounds pretty like a badass actual movie plot, honestly, right? This is the, but if this wasn't so serious, we could make some more jokes about this being the next step for the Shark NATO franchise, but this is

quite serious. And when you see the path of the storm and the devastation that obviously it, it, it, it creates. I'm just reminded of the dumbest argument I've ever heard by king of logic, Ben Shapiro, that when climate change hits, people can just sell their houses if they're underwater. You just have to sell them, right? In the free market, we'll service everybody equally. Yeah, people who are experiencing flooding in their homes, they might have a hard time selling them, selling them to somebody who isn't interested in underwater property. And And the rest, you know, of course, those kinds of conservative arguments are more tailored to who they're thinking about, which are, you know, people who have vacation homes on the coast of Florida, not the regular people working class folks who won't, of course, have that kind of option to just cut and run from their home. 100%. Yeah. So we're going to be tracking this throughout the rest of the week. As of when I last saw over a million people were without power. That's probably going to get worse before it gets better. But we'll be tracking to see what happens.

With that said, why don't we actually jump to a story that's thematically somewhat linked? Joe Manchin as well as, you know, some of his allies, Chuck Schumer in this case, were cooking up where to secure Joe Manchin's vote for Joe Biden's climate bill that passed not too many weeks ago, he was going to do this fast permitting bill that had a number of different potential negative effects. And they were tying it this week to a need to pass bill that would continue the government being open and running. And for progressives, this was considered a line that could not be crossed. These things needed to be disentangled. and the progressives actually won. It's not something we get to say too often on the show. I relish it each time it comes up. And in this case, in this case, it did work. Thanks to the amazing work of many different activist groups and individuals, literally hundreds of scientists who've been pressuring people in democratic leadership.

The great efforts, amazing speeches by people like Bernie Sanders and advocacy of people in the squad, those sorts of things. this was actually pulled out of the other legislation. And Bernie Sanders had a little bit of celebration on social media saying, I want to congratulate the groups and organizations who made clear that we do not need more fossil fuel projects that would substantially increase carbon emissions. The removal of the big oil side deal is a victory for the planet and a major loss for the fossil fuel industry. And he is both right to give the vast, vast bulk of the credit to those groups,

But also notice that he doesn't mention at all that he was working on this. It's a little bit different than some other prominent politicians that we could probably name. In any event, if you have not been following the path of this side deal, it's a good thing that at least for now it's been killed because the bill would have mandated that all permits for, for instance, the Mountain Valley pipeline, a project long delayed by environmental violations and judicial rulings, be issued in one month. And it would have stripped away virtually any scope for judicial review, which was needed because of all of those violations. And thus they didn't want to actually continue a process wherein there was good research done, there was due diligence, just ram it through and continue to wreck the climate. And so thankfully, at least for now, Emma, that's not going to happen. Although as we will get to in a couple of minutes, this thing could potentially rise from the dead.

Yeah, and it's a shame. It's a shame that for Mansion, he was unable to get this path. get this through cloture because, you know, perhaps he might at this point begin to reevaluate his stance on the filibuster. If he just, if he really wants these permitting this permitting bill provision to get through, hey, maybe you need to do away with the filibuster altogether to get it through, huh? Joe, so you don't need that 60 vote threshold. But of course, that's not going to be the case. I just, that's some wishful thinking on my part. But you read what he had to say about why it was so necessary for this permitting reform to pass and what what it would do

would be create a pipeline, the Mountain Valley pipeline, I believe that would go through West Virginia and I'm sure enrich himself in some sort in some roundabout way. But he talks about how the United States needs to be energy independent and we can't kow to Vladimir Putin and how our national security is at risk when we don't have energy independence. All right. Let's do it then. Let's nationalize all of our oil and gas industry and our electric grid. I mean, you're saying Joe Manchin that it is way too much of a national security risk for us to, for us to not be at the whims of Vladimir Putin or the oil markets internationally, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, although we don't do business with them anymore for certain reasons. Why don't we just nationalize and then phase out the oil and gas industry altogether so that we don't have to be dependent on this international marketplace? Well, that's not what he's interested in.

The reason that he's using a national security interest as a fig leaf for his for his desires is because this is entirely a self-interested project for himself. And that is how he operates as a senator. Yeah, yeah, for himself, but also for the sort of people that he cavorts around with. the people that, the people that he likes, the people that he cares about, the sort of people that are going to benefit from this. And you're totally right to point out how, what BS, the national security argument is. He clearly in this case, you know, because it's so important for national security, is willing to accept the cost that a pipeline like that would bring, including, you know, any amount of additional cardiovascular disease that it caused, the pollution

and all of that. Those costs are acceptable. But they never like use that for renewable energy. the actual like just an extra cost in dollars isn't acceptable for them, even though in theory were we to do some sort of massive moonshot of solar or wind energy, that too could help us be independent from all of these damned international despots. But for some reason, they never get behind that. I guess there aren't enough solar panels in West Virginia. Honestly, let's start shipping them there. We'll set them up there, you guys can benefit, and then maybe we can get someone like Joe Manchin on board. In any event, for now, this is good news. It stops not only the Mountain Valley pipeline, which we focus on both because the corruption is so clear, but also

because it would have such a negative impact on our emissions overall. Estimates vary in terms of how bad it would be, but the estimates that I've seen say that it would, by being allowed to be built, it would reduce the overall climate benefit of the climate bill that was just passed by something like 20% for this one pipeline. So that's not acceptable, but it also would have, let's see, included at least five projects that produce, process, transport, or store fossil fuels, six that don't deal with fossil fuels for mining projects as well, and would also cut down the overall environmental impact research period for projects going forward to a time where you can't

necessarily do all of the due diligence expected. The issue, though, is that we haven't necessarily one totally. Joe Biden apparently still supports this and is willing to look for other vehicles to get it passed. Corrine Jean-Pierre just said, I believe it was earlier today, that the president supports Center Mansion's plan because it's necessary for energy security and to make more clean energy available to the American people. We'll continue to work with him. And so they're going to do that. And there are a couple different ways that they might do that. Some people are saying they could attach it to the NDAA for when that needs to be passed, a similar tactic to this, which in the theory could fail for the same reasons, but they don't even necessarily

have to do that. They don't necessarily need all of the Democrats to support this. They can afford to lose some if they can gain some Republicans. And when the topic is fossil fuels, I bet they can figure out a way to get some Republicans on board. But what do you think? Well, it depends, right? I mean, right now they're being quite vindictive towards Joe Manchin because Manchin had the gall to make a side deal with Chuck Schumer and not inform his buddies over on the other side of the aisle about that side deal. But it is quite rich to see Manchin kind of get screwed over by very similar tactics that he's used against the left for quite a long period of time. Before even the Inflation Reduction Act side deal was struck, Manchin had a secret

negotiation with Chuck Schumer that said, despite, you know, we were talking about Build Back Better At one point, Bernie was proposing $6 trillion, something like that. Then we were discussing if it should be $3 trillion. And all the while, Joe Manchin had this secret negotiation with Chuck Schumer that he was like, I'm going to stick by a $1.75 trillion figure. So he, I mean, he was screwing over and not negotiating in good faith for months and months and months with the left's left aside of the aisle in the Democratic Party. And yet now he's whining about not getting Republican support for his legislation and not getting Democrats on board as

well for his own pet project. There's only so many times that Joe Manchin can screw over the rest of his caucus in a negotiation and that they completely back him altogether. If maybe he was operated, maybe he would have gotten his pipeline deal if there were, you know, was the child tax credit included if universal child care was included in what ended up passing as the inflation reduction act one ninth of build back better but that that wasn't happened he delivered for his donors first and so sad to say Joe Manchin you don't get your little pet project as a sweetener as a dessert after you got you know delivered for for the rest of the for the people that actually serve you so yeah too bad sorry

Yeah, 100%. Yeah. And, you know, I'm sure right now he's crying himself to sleep on his yacht or something. But I would remind him if you don't want people to say that two things can be attached and then they actually split them apart at the last minute, maybe don't set the precedent of saying that two things can be attached and then splitting them apart at the last minute. That would be my advice to you. Anyway, we got to take our first break. When we come back, more news. We're going to be diving on the topic of abortion, as well as the normalization of political violence, all that and more coming up after this. No, it is. But it is good to see you, John, because I've been hosting with everyone, everyone but you recently. I know. Some might say that this was deliberate avoidance by you of me. But, you know, that's just rumors that I've been flying around that I've been hearing. There was actually, there was a narrow miss where we were going to do election coverage together, and I was so desperate to avoid it that I came in and messed with the power in the studio. Anyway, no, I freaked out when I heard it the same way that Crowder

freaked out when Sam suddenly appeared. Anyway, with that said, we got more news to get to, why don't we tee it off with this? You can give me a yes or no on this. Would that woman who decided to have an abortion, which would be considered an illegal abortion, be charged with murder? Okay, let's go back to the basic question there. Is that a human being? Is that a little boy or girl? If it is, it deserves equal protection on the law. So you're saying yes. Yes, I am. So that is Doug Mastriano. Of course, he is the Republican nominee for the governor in Pennsylvania right now during an election, abortion incredibly important topic. And he's being asked in previous years about whether it should be considered murder. And it's fairly

clear what he thinks right there. At that point, he had already sponsored a bill that would have banned abortion as early six weeks. So he was a little bit early on the Republican side for setting that arbitrary insane six week timeline. And he was asked about 10 weeks there, which would already be a massive reduction from what was the status quo like six months ago in the US. And yeah, he seems pretty okay with the idea. Now, asked to comment initially on this becoming a topic once again, he declined. But at some point, he did seem to want to backtrack a little bit. Take a look at this. The matter of life in Pennsylvania is exactly what the Supreme Court said, it's up to the people of Pennsylvania and the people's representatives on the first page of the decision, the Dobbs decision from June, the people decide in Pennsylvania what that looks like. So, you know, my views are kind of irrelevant because I cannot rule by Fiat or by edict or executive order on the issue of life. It's up to the people of Pennsylvania. So if Pennsylvaniaans want exceptions, if they want to limit the number of weeks, it's going to have to come to your legislative body and then to my death.

You know, that is a hell of a thing. So he is in this scandal right now because he implied a couple of years ago that he believes that a woman who has an abortion should be considered a murderer in a state that has capital punishment, which is exciting. And his defense is, well, I mean, it's not like I can do it unilaterally. I'm not going to say if I still support it, but it's not like I can sign it myself. So coming out of this conversation, do you think he still supports it or not? But if he didn't, he could get his way out of this scandal by just saying that he doesn't.

No, it's clear that he still considers it to be murder. And while he's largely right, as governor, he can't just sign a piece of paper and immediately start executing women who have abortions, do you want to roll the dice on the continued existence of your rights with a guy who has stated in the past that he doesn't believe that they're rights and that millions and millions of women are murderers? Is that what you want? Emma, what do you think? It's a good timing for this with the election just a couple months away.

Well, I mean, this is, I think, you know, why maybe my perception of some of the Democrats Pied Piper strategies deviates from maybe yours. And I know it did from Jang, last time I was on this show. And it was, it is because when you have these extremists that are the general election candidates, there is no shortage of skeletons in their closet. And they really do say, what they mean when they go into friendly environments and I know actually this this interviewer was fairly uh combative with with Mastriano when you listen to a fuller context of it as well which which is good to hear but they they usually they'll show their ass basically they'll make it clear who they are and so um I do think that there is some value in that

particularly when abortion is going to be what is on the ballot here I don't even know if Republicans fully understood how galvanized Democratic voters would be in a year that is typically not a good one for Democrats when you have a Democratic president and the midterms are coming up two years into that presidency, especially when Biden's approval rating is nothing to, you know, to write home about. So the fact that he has these comments, it is, there is some value there and the polling seems to bear that out. And some of the more other things he said in that interview are just crazy too, right? Like I consider the person no matter what country they're from. If they're here, I consider the fetus of person. I'm old enough to remember when Republicans

were fear mongering constantly about anchor babies and migrants coming over just to give birth here so they could stay in this country, as if that was something nefarious in and of itself. But what this really is, is he wants to be able to control women. And when you say that you're going to leave it up to the voters or legislative tax is going to come to me. What that means is that you don't see abortion as a fundamental right. Rights do not get chipped away at the edges. Rights do not have caveats and rape and incest exemptions. It takes a really long time to prove rape, by the way, kind of expires, the time for an abortion expires when that's the case. Those are just fig leaves for their extremism because they don't care about solving rapes. They don't

care about honestly, the incest and the babies that come from that, many Republicans still think that those women of girls and women should carry those children. They just use that as a way to deflect from their barbarity. So don't even engage with rape and incest exemptions in abortion debates because it's all in bad faith to cover up how brutal they actually are. Yeah, that is a great point, of course, you know, Greg Abbott promised that you didn't have to worry about rape because he was going to stop all of the rape and catch all the rapists. And still hasn't happened yet, maybe later tonight, I don't know, maybe there will be no more rape in Texas. You know, sources on the ground say, still a big problem. Turned out he didn't give a damn

about it. Because when he's being questioned for his barbaric view on abortion, he wants to double down and make sure that you know that he's also a barbarian when it comes to the topic of rape as well, because he doesn't care about women's rights when it comes to abortion, and he really doesn't care about what happens with rape either. Mastrano, we'll see. We'll see in terms of the strategy. In this case, right now, Josh Shapiro is leading by more than 10 points, which that's not nothing. That seems like a pretty good lead. God only knows, I don't know, I keep hearing there's this red wave. Granted, I hear that on Trump's true social account, but I do hear about that. And so I'm a

bit worried. Anyway, it's important that people know what position these absolute monsters have because they're working as hard as they can, many of these candidates to make sure that you don't find out about it, stripping their prior, their prior, like, happy placement of how pro-life they were that used to be all over their websites. All of a sudden, as soon as they win the primaries, is gone. It's weird. Yeah, Blake Masters did that. And just a quick aside, John, or just, I wanted to clarify, there's no real evidence it seems like in this Mostriano case that he was Pied Piper, it's just candidates like him on the Senate and House side. Sure.

But but but but but just to to to add to what you were saying here about about Mastriano and and the fact that Republicans are hiding their true position when it gets to the general election, they did this in the way that they stripped abortion rights in the first place. Republican right wing extremists understand that their agenda is deeply unpopular with a majority of Americans. These theocrats understand that. So they lie to you up until the exact point when they can strike and take that right away.

They did it with the Supreme Court justices that they appointed. You know, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Coney Barrett, oh, Roe is settled law, too bad. They decide against it as soon as they have the opportunity when they're in power. And they'll do the same thing once they get in power, whether it's the gubernatorial race in Pennsylvania or it's the Senate races or the House races on the federal level as well. I agree 100%. Yeah, I would love for us to live in a country. where people were excited to tell you about what they actually believe because they have faith

that their views are in line with reality. They're talking about actual crises that actually exist and that people actually support them. That's just not what we're seeing, unfortunately. Now with that, let's turn to someone arguably worse. Let's roll this. Democrats aren't the only one destroying farmers' ability to put food on the table. We've got wild hogs, destroying farmers' fields. So we decided to go hog hunting. So Madrigan is hardly the only Republican who's filmed the campaign ad of her, I guess, pretending to be an action star or something, slag.

shooting things and killing things we're gonna get to some other examples but she's actually running a little promotion if you'd like to kill some hogs you could ride around that helicopter with her take a look at this we've got skyrocketing inflation high diesel fuel and Democrats America last policy Democrats aren't the only one destroying farmers ability to put food on the table we've got wild hogs destroying farmers field so we decided to go hog hunting. Let's help American farmers out. Sign up below and let's go in that helicopter and go hog hunting. Enter to win now. By the way, if anyone

knows any of the staffers working in Marjor Green's office, I would love to talk to the young Republican who thought they'd be joining up with someone who was going to write legislation, but instead they found their days filling, filled with having to edit in the sound of a hog dying to have campaign ad. That's a fun little twist on your career right there. Anyway, this is the most minor part of this. We're gonna turn to the more important part, but she makes a claim about how much damage Biden is doing to the farmers. I will remind you about a topic that she definitely didn't care about at the time, which was when Donald Trump started a trade war with China, with these new tariffs that devastated farmers so much so that they had to cut massive stimulus

checks directly to different farmers. We'll put up a graphic, you'll see the details there. It's a little bit inside baseball, but I have a feeling she wasn't doing a whole bunch of vlogs at that point about how mad she was. More importantly, of course, she transitions there from talking about how Democrats are harming farmers to the hogs are harming farmers, so let's shoot the hogs. And it doesn't take a massive leap of logic. It takes so only about as much as you might expect Marjor Green have the capacity for to say that she is linking those two things and then fantasizing about murdering one of those. But she very much doesn't like if you point out what she's doing there, as we'll show you. But first, Emma, what do you think about

this? I mean, yeah, she's not trained in the art of subtlety that one, Marjorie Taylor Green. Just take a look at some of the pull-ups that she tries to engage in during her crossfit endeavors. They're not necessarily the, they don't really scream technique, nor do they scream subtlety as well. Those will never fail to make me laugh. But like, I mean, one, yes, of course, she's clearly making that connection. And that's, I believe she came into the house with a bunch of ads shooting things as well. Yep. And I forget exactly what that entailed.

But what is with Republicans and their obsessions with hogs and killing hogs? If you remember back in the last major mass shooting, and there have been a few, but the one that captured most of the country's attention, Uvaldi, Bill Cassidy, Senator Bill Cassidy, Republican, said that people really need AR-15s to gun down feral hogs because they're going to be destroying their crops. I was unaware that the feral hog problem is one of the largest issues facing our country right now, so much so that we need weapons of war on our streets on a regular basis and for everyone to be holding on to them in order to just maintain a low feral hog population. I was unaware that this is a kitchen table issue, but apparently Marjorie Taylor Green, Bill Cass, the other Republicans seem to think this is what we need to. to be worried about right now. Well see, this is where it's important to have diversity of perspective on the panel,

because Emma, you might know, is a coastal elite, and she doesn't understand that up until maybe 30 years ago, there was an entire band of the country where humans could only exist in walled compounds, surrounded by an ever-moving, stinking mass of feral hogs. Because we didn't have the firepower to strike back. Now, yes, Napalm helped, artillery helped, but it was the AR-15 that really allowed us to finally push out and begin to farm on our own. It's the dawn of man, I would say. Anyway, I mean, honestly, I think I'm in the liberal media bubbles, so I was unaware of that. But I'm glad that the AR-15 was able to democratize the mowing-down hog process.

I appreciate that information. And by the way, the hogs are an actual problem. But no, you don't need, you don't need to get an M-16 to take it out. That's ridiculous. Anyway, Huff Post had an article titled Marjorie Taylor Green, Likens, Dems to Hogs. wants help shooting them dead. And she didn't like that. She tweeted, she doesn't like their freedom of speech, I guess she wants to cancel them. So she tweeted, I demand you change this headline and your lies about me immediately. Your freedom of press is not freedom to lie about

me. I never said anything like this and did not call for violence on Democrats. Well, they didn't claim that you directly called for violence on Democrats. They said you likened Democrats to hogs. Now, I don't expect you to know that word right off the bat, but you could look it up. to the internet. I know it because you tweeted. And so just to be clear, I'm going to read what she actually said. She said Democrats aren't the only ones destroying farmers' ability to put food on the table. We've got wild hogs destroying farmers' fields, so we decided to go hog hunting. What does any of that naturally have to do with each other? Nothing. You chose to connect those things. You likened one to the other. That's a choice that you made, and you know that it's a

choice that you made. We're not going to play games with you. This is the same Marjorie Green, by the way, that back when we blessedly didn't need to know who she was, and she existed mainly online as a weird person on Facebook, somebody on a page that she went to, posted about wanting to put a bullet in Nancy Pelosi's head, and she gave her the old thumbs up because she thought that was a cool idea. Can Huff Post do headlines about that Marjorie Green? Are you going to cancel them for that too? Now, really fast, again, as I said, she's not the only one who does this. You had Eric Greightens with an ad that even Republicans denounce this one, where he was going around shooting rhinos. Now, of course, maybe they were only against it,

because in this he's literally murdering other Republicans. But you had Dr. Oz. I've literally never seen a person look more uncomfortable holding a gun than he does in that left. On the right side, he looks like he went to Disney World and went to like the old Wild Wild West exhibit it and is is doing some sort of photo op with his family. With the rifle, honestly, any other way you could have held that would have looked better. He looks like he's literally never held it before. He's like, could I hold a tray of crudite instead? Something I'm used to, please.

But then there's there's, we have another ad. This was a guy who I think was in this ad, I think he was shooting like KKK members or something. And then Blake Masters too, Blake Masters there is pretending. that he's ready to shoot someone with a gun. Everybody knows he kills people with knives and then cuts off their skin, allegedly. He likes to collect skin allegedly. It's not making a specific claim so you can't sue me, Blake Masters,

but this is a guy that allegedly definitely would have skin in his basement. Anyway, none of these people actually care about the guns, but they do know that their prospective voters do, and so they have to pretend to be badass as in action stars and all that. Although Marjorie Taylor Green, I think she might actually be a true believer in the gun lifestyle. The thing about what she is good at, and good is maybe not the right word, but what she deploys, I should say, is a tried and true trope of the extreme right wing. And Rush Limbaugh had been training his audience to do this for decades, which is see hidden meaning and hide behind plausible. deniability. She's, that's exactly what she's engaging in there. She wants you to make the connection

of political violence towards Democrats. And she is basically playing dumb when being asked about in the press, because it's the same reason that Donald Trump plays the, the, where we want, go one, we go all theme at his rallies. They want to get, and he's even bordering on the edge right there. They want to give enough to their base, to the far right, uh, the far right, uh, people that support them while still being able to be respectable publicly. And the thing, the reason it works is because of all of that far right insane media training that the that kind of extremist base has consumed and white supremacists think this way too, right? This is you can hear them and how they talk about how they

consume Tucker Carlson's program like he can't say what he actually feels on there. So he'll say this. Yeah. They understand that some things that they truly believe can't be said in polite society. So you have to make you And so when he, she does things like that, she knows exactly the connection that she's making because right, a right wing audience has been understanding this for decades, that this is how their politicians and leaders communicate with them. Yeah, yeah, like with the likening the Dems to the hogs. And in one other way, before we move on, I, everybody looking at the sad knows that she's pathetic and try hard and she just desperately wants to be cool and it's never going to happen. But I haven't yet been able to figure out exactly which flavor of pathetic it is. And so I want all of your help. If you go to t.wit.com slash polls, we have a poll. And so I ask, what is Marjorie Green referencing with her lightning eyes in the hog at?

Is she jealous of dark Brandon and wants images of her with lightning in her eyes so that she could be as cool as Joe Biden? Is it a reference to QDON's The Storm? That seems pretty likely. Is it Stormfront from the boys whose eyes glow with lightning, that Nazi superhero on Amazon's show? or is it just stealing storm from the X-Men? Because even black female superheroes can't have anything without her trying to take it. I don't know, but go to t-y-t.com slash polls, and you can vote there and we'll reveal at some point what you all thought. With that said, we're going to take a break.

When we come back, we've got some awesome videos that David Schuster got at a Trump rally. We'll show you those to you after this. Welcome back everyone to what remains. I want to read just one more super chat, because Camp Runamuck had a good point saying those 50 immigrants have to be thanking old Ron Boy today for evacuating them out of Florida. That's a good point, but to be clear, they weren't from Florida. Remember, who took them from Texas and sent them over? It's insane. Anyway, We've got some great videos, probably to close out this hour. So are you ready, Emma?

Oh, yeah. Okay, let's do it. Let's jump directly into this. I believe that America is being saved through Donald Trump and the military. We have world leaders involved. And they're taking back their rights. It goes back to the Constitution. It goes back to our freedom.

It goes back to God. It's biblical. And I believe that we're on the verge of seeing it happen immediately. You'll be shocked to find out that QAnon was a very popular topic of conversation at a recent Trump rally. That video there is an excerpt from a number of awesome videos taken by David Schuster, who he's got his videos on Rebel HQ. He goes to these Trump rallies. We're going to dive more into the Q&N thing. But to start off, we do have an interesting little connection here.

We're joined on the show by Emma Vigland, who used to be the person at TYT that would go to these rallies and talk to these people. Is that a bit of a throwback to see him asking questions and getting answers about the Bible and secret military tribunals and things like that? I was going to say, man, David Schuster, he's on my old beat. But I don't necessarily envy him, right? That was a time in my life. I think I was going to one Trump rally a week for one period leading up to the election and yeah, not, I think it was the midterms. That was when I was doing that because there was the pandemic in 2020, yeah. So it was a little exhausting. David can go all at it, go for it. 100%. Well, he did, she had more to say. Here he is asking her and she starts talking

about voter fraud. We have judges in place all over the country. Some are from the deep state, Some are from President Trump. And in the process of them denying those rights, well, then you go to the next judge. You go to the next judge, and exposure comes, and exposure comes. And it's coming right now. But exposure hasn't happened yet. Oh, it's happening. Oh, yes, it is.

You have to get off the news. You have to go someplace else and find it all. Can you point to me a single judge that has ruled that the election was stolen or that there was malfeasance that would have overturned the results of any state? Look at the Supreme Court. Well, the Supreme Court, how? He hasn't accepted any of these cases either. How do you know that?

Because they have a docket and they list what cases they review and they issue their opinions. You choose to believe that, you can believe that, but I have alternative news and I find out differently. I bet she does. Emma, I don't know when the last time it was that we talked about Q&N, but it's more popular than ever before, both in terms of the percentage of Americans that will just openly say that they believe in it. believe that the person who is likely Ron Watkins posting things online, having no access to any information, that he actually has the, he's the key to all the secrets of our government, of all governments, perhaps. And more importantly than that, I think more dangerously than that,

so much of what makes up QAnon has been, has had the serial number filed off. And it's just what Republicans believe. Like, you know, they, Matt Walsh is going to do 12 hours this week on, you know, trans butchers and stuff like that. And he's never going to say the term QAnon, but it's just QAnon, that's all it is. What do you think about this? How do you get through to a woman who can say, look at the Supreme Court, she has no idea what she's talking about. When he turns around and says, there's no indication that they've ruled anything. She's like, no, you just have to, you have to do the research, you have to go on telegram or rumble or something.

What do you think? Get off the news, get off the news, man, I mean, you know, the idea that the Supreme Court has some some secret ruling panel. Maybe that's maybe she saw the term shadow docket and was convinced that that is that that's where they uh the the process by which they're installing Trump. Um, I just don't confuse as to how QAnon is even continuing now that Joe Biden is president because I thought the whole purpose of what Q&N was espousing was that there were secret deep state forces who were actually working on behalf of Trump and we're never going to let this happen. And yet it has happened. Society has continued to move along and none of that has

come true. So where is Q? Who is Q? Does it really matter? Is Q just the friends we made along the way? That's kind of how it feels to me. And you know, she mentioned something at the start about religion. And this is what, this is a copy and pasting of a fundamentalist religious framework onto something that is political. Because all she says, what it comes down to there is, I have faith. I have faith that Donald Trump is the legitimate president. And I don't need any actual facts to back up that case. I, it is what I believe. So I will seek out alternative of media sources, I will get off the news and find something that validates my preexisting faith. And that's not anything that's rational. That's something that is deeply emotional and

something that maybe she should parse out in therapy. But it's not anything that resembles facts or reality, obviously. Yeah, 100%. I think that's a totally accurate read. That woman effectively is an answer to the question, how can people for thousands of years keep waiting for Jesus to come back. Well, what if I told you they didn't have to wait? And they just found him in Trump or whoever. It's a different person in each era, but it's someone that fulfills that same purpose, who literally has a divine plan that you just have to have faith and loyalty in. And it doesn't matter if the plan makes any sense because Trump works in mysterious ways. The deep state, as you point out, is secretly keeping him in power, but also he has to

fight the deep state. No word yet on if one is deeper than the other, if they're both deep but like separated, there's some earth between them, I don't know. He secretly is still president to some of them, or he's arranging things so he'll be president again. He needed to not be president for a little bit for some reason that's never explained. And when years went by where he never said anything about QAnon, that was perfectly fine. The reason you had QAnon was so that Trump could communicate to his loyal followers without implicating himself. Now that he's frequently posting Q&MEMs, that doesn't bust a hole in that theory. No, now it's that he's directly trying to tell us something.

Well, then why doesn't he just take over? Like, none of this makes any sense. I don't know what we're supposed to do with an ever-increasing percentage of the American public being so incredulous that they would believe these sorts of things. But anyway, I do want to get to just one more video because David, he got some great stuff. Here's a little compilation of some of what happened there. The child sex trafficking. Right, now the child six trafficking, the truth about that, the truth about 9-11. We know that Donald Trump was friends with Jeffrey Epstein.

About everybody, everybody in the country and the world was. Pretty soon we're going to find out who these people are that are drinking the children's blood and turning it into drugs. It's a gigantic ritual, which is why we masked up, stood six feet apart. If you start there, you can, you can research and figure it out. So we stood six feet apart not because of COVID, but because of this satanic ritual involving drinking children's blood. Well, COVID goes back to how they. how they stole the election. It was all premeditated, pre-planned.

All they got to do is ask, who is Q? You know who Q is? I don't know who Q is. I don't have my computer here to look at the Q&on drops. The Q drops. So can't you just tell me? Ask President Trump. Do the work. You'll find out. You'll find out 174.

174. What does that mean? Jamatria, God's language. There we go. There we go. Right? That's what we're saying. The 174. I don't, I'm sure that there are people, who make videos about 174 on TikTok that are making $10 million a year. But to a normal person, none of this, what's the six feet thing? What does that have to do with anything?

Well, numbers and symbols, they all mean the same thing. God works in mysterious ways. He sends us messages through numbers and letters. And, you know, like when they also, you can see the religious undertones with the concept of child sex trafficking too, right? where the religious fundamentalism they like to operate in terms of really good and really evil and demonic and and you know heavenly and there's nothing more demonic and dark than a child molester or sex trafficker and so that's the only way that they are able to see the world and so I mean hey if Jesus was combating all evil and providing for the good for the rest of people then so. So Trump is combating the most evil and that's the child sex traffickers. 100%. And I guess to combat them, he had to spend time with them, party with them. But it's okay because everybody was friends with Epstein.

I mean, maybe I'm only speaking for myself. I wasn't. Well, if I was David, I would have been like, wait, did you know, did you know Epstein? Because everybody apparently does. God, anyway. With that said, we're gonna turn to just quickly one more topic. Let's jump whenever we're ready into this. There was very targeted comments. There were direct messages, emails, phone calls to my friends looking for me. I received mail at the house.

I got sent pictures of dead kids because I was told that as a crisis actor, I didn't really know what a dead kid looked like. So this is what it should look like. That is Nicole Hockley, whose son Dylan was just six years old when he was murdered at Sandy Hook, which is an unimaginable thing to go through. And it doesn't seem like anything could be worse. And yet there are people in this world who found a way to make it worse because they harassed her for years and years and years because an insane person on the internet wanted

something to rage about and make a bunch of money selling stay hard pills or whatever. And so Alex Jones's trial continues, and parents like Nicole have to recount the absolutely horrendous experiences that they've had at the hands of his mob of lunatics. Even this trial, by the way, let's not forget, is a traumatic thing for her to have to go through. Her entire life every day since Sandy Hook has had to be about the worst thing that ever happened to her because the most evil deranged people in the world will not allow her a moment to maybe get some sort of peace, some sort of distance or clarity on this horrible experience. And so I can't imagine what it's like to have to talk about this. But I am glad

that there are people like Nicole, as well as a number of other parents who lost their kids tragically at Sandy Hook that are continuing to testify and make it unavoidable for everyone to acknowledge how horrendous it was, what Alex Jones did to these people. Emma, what do you think? Yeah, I mean, we talked a bit about, we talked a bit about this in the context of the Q&ON folks and how there's like this religious framework by which they view Donald Trump and they view the world by extension of him. And there is another piece to that, there is a narcissism too involved in that, which is what conspiracy theories that are not, you know, about actually challenging the powerful, say, if you're looking into, you know, who actually killed Malcolm X or MLK or JFK, right? Those have value. What this doesn't have any value. All it does is demonize regular people to feed a narcissism with alienated people, probably consuming allegations.

Jones's content who want to feel like they have access to a certain kind of special knowledge that they get to investigate and that they get to look into, hey, the mainstream media who's saying that this horrible, brutal, just unconscionable, unimaginable thing happened to these parents, they're lying to you. I have something entirely contrasting that I can provide for you and you can consume this media because it's very different than what your friends or what your parents or what everybody else is engaging in and you're special. You have access to the secret knowledge and hey, now everyone's lying to you. Aren't you angry about that? Aren't you going to start harassing these parents who have gone through the most heart wrenching, just like

I can't even think about the pain that they endured and continue to endure to this day. Time to harass them. They're lying to you. They're the real problem. And that is what is so insidious about just what Alex Jones does regularly and the fallout from this particular act of malfeasance on his part exactly yeah yeah and and to do it because you are insane enough to believe it is bad enough but to do it because you want to make more millions of dollars is just insane you're a multi multi millionaire willing to put people through unimaginable suffering so you can have more irrelevant money that has no impact on your quality of life. Can you think of anything more

evil than that? And he's not the only person. It's not the only grifty conspiracy theory for profit that has left a trail of victims in its wake. But this one broke through, I think, because it is so reprehensible. And the campaign against these parents lasted so long. They're still getting harassment to this day, in no small part, because of the trial. that thankfully it's getting people to acknowledge this massive problem we have in our culture. Unfortunately, that is all the time that we have for our show. Emma, it is indeed a rare treat to have you on the show. Hopefully, we won't have to wait another year and a half to talk politics again, but thank you for being here. Thanks so much and I wish, you know,

I could come on damage report more, but it's just a bit different, my show runs at the same time, but hopefully we can do this again soon. Well, really fast, your show is, where can people watch you? Oh, the majority report was Sam Cedar every day live at noon to around 2.30, sometimes till three, if Sam gets a call from a libertarian that he wants to debate for like over an hour and a half, keeping us here longer. So honestly, that happens way more than you would think. But check us out there. The show, I mean, I'm really proud to work there. It's a great leftist show, much like TYT. And Sam's a legend. And he never backs down from literally anybody, which makes it fun to work with him. Awesome, yes. Good people over there. Everyone should definitely tune in to see Emma. And then as soon as the damage port goes live, switch over to that. Anyway, Emma, great to have you here. Thank you. Thanks so much. And with that said, we got another hour coming. Jessica Burbank and Wazzoon-Lambre are going to be in studio. It's going to be a lot of fun. You're not going to want to miss it. So we'll see you in a few.

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