The Young Turks - For Pete's Sake!

Episode Date: November 30, 2021

Anthony Fauci said on Sunday that the omicron COVID-19 variant will “inevitably” hit the United States. The director of the National Institutes of Health stressed that the newly emerged coronavirus variant "ought to redouble" vaccination efforts and other mitigation strategies. Fox and Friends hosts suggest the new Covid variant was made up by the Democrats to help President Biden. Kamala Harris is not popular, so the Biden administration is looking at someone else to run for president instead of the current Vice President. Hosts: Ana Kasparian, Cenk Uygur Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We are re-energized. Are we re-energized, Casper? Yeah, yeah, totally re-energized. It took approximately, I don't know, 10 minutes of reading what passes as news in the news cycle today for me to immediately get re-iritable with everything. So the soap opera in politics continues today, really looking forward to all the distractions that we're going to tell you about. And then of course, there's a new coronavirus variant that's here to potentially screw everything

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All right, Casper, go. All right. The United States has implemented a travel ban from South Africa, and other neighboring countries to slow the spread of a new coronavirus variant, which you may have heard of, it's known as Omicron. And at the same time, pharmaceutical companies that have created coronavirus vaccines are scrambling to test the efficacy of the vaccines against this new variant. In fact, NIH director, Dr. Francis Collins went on Fox to discuss more details about the potential severity of this variant. But let me just be clear right off the baton state that if you're

panicking already, stop panicking. There's still a lot that we need to learn about this variant. Without further ado, here is the director of the NIH. Remember the picture of this virus that it has these spikes on its surface, which are made up of protein. That's the part of the virus that has to find a receptor on your cell to get inside. So there's sort of a lock and a key there. And this one is apparently a able to still do that. It's infecting people. But the shape of that protein is different because of these 30 plus mutations so that it looks a little different. So if you've raised antibodies against that from previously being infected or from being vaccinated, the question is, will those antibodies

still stick to this version of a spike protein or will evade that protection? We need to find that out. To be honest, though, that's going to take two or three weeks in both laboratory and field studies to figure out the answer. And that's what all of us as scientists want to know. So if you choose to panic today, you will continue panicking for about two to three weeks before you know for certain whether or not the vaccines can withstand this new variant. And so I frame it that way because I just feel like there's already a lot of worry, people freaking out about it. And I just think that it's too, this story is too premature, right? Like it's too early to panic.

We still need to see what the results of these studies will be, whether or not the vaccine is able to withstand it. The messages that we're getting from health experts right now is that people should go through with their booster shots. If you haven't been fully vaccinated yet, you should get fully vaccinated because that still has proven to be the most effective way in preventing hospitalization and death from coronavirus. Also, I just want to note that there has been a travel ban from eight different African countries. As I mentioned earlier, South Africa and its neighboring countries. And the

reason for that is because this variant was first discovered in South Africa. And it's already spread. I mean, it's very likely that it's already here in the United States, although we haven't had any reports of the first case yet. They've already found cases in Canada, which again indicates that it's very likely that we already have that variant here in the United States. The travel ban is meant to slow, not stop necessarily, but slow the spread of this variant. And there's a lot of debate about that. Jank, why don't I bring you in? What do you think about everything that's been going on with this new variant? Okay, my first reaction was, oh, for God's sake, not again. And so this was going to delay my mask burning party that I was

going to do. Okay, I'm not actually going to do one, but I kind of want to. Let's be honest about it. I hate the mask. I've been wearing them this whole time because I'm a good person, but it really irritates my face. And my face is irritated enough as it is. All right. So, so, but there is a time to panic. I've told you that many times on the show, but it is rare. And this is not one of those times. So everybody's going nuts when we don't know a damn thing about it. We think it might be more contagious than the regular kind or maybe even delta variant, which was very contagious. But we have no idea about how deadly it is or whether the vaccines are going to work or not. If the vaccines work, then it's close to a no big deal.

If the vaccines don't work on it, then damn it, then we'll come back and tell you about it. But for now, there's not any evidence that the vaccines don't work on it. So hold, hold. And people want immediate answers. Of course, I get why we're all worried about it. At the same time, science doesn't work like that. You can't be like, Mr. Scientist, without any information, tell me what's in it. No, he's got to get the information first. That's how science works. Right, right. So let me give you some more data on this, what we do know so far. What we do know is that the various African countries that the Biden administration has implemented a travel ban on happen to be countries that have incredibly low vaccination rates.

And that's not because the population there is vaccine hesitant. It's because we have this ongoing global problem in getting the vaccine to poorer countries, developing countries. And it's going to continue being an issue if we keep treating this as though it's just something that that the United States is dealing with. No, this is a global pandemic. We need to get as many people vaccinated worldwide as possible. And so South Africa's vaccination rate is so low that, you know, the highest vaccination rate of the eight countries is at like 27%.

Here in the United States, even with all the vaccine hesitancy that we've been dealing with, about 60% of the population is fully vaccinated. And shockingly, about 19% have already received their booster. So if you haven't received your booster yet, please do so. The FDA has opened this up to everyone over the age of 18. Also, Biden deflected criticism from the leaders of some African countries who have accused Western nations of hoarding COVID-19 vaccines. And here's what Biden said in response to that criticism, quote, the United States has already donated more vaccines to other countries than every other country combined. It is time for other countries to match

America's speed and generosity. But while it may be true that the United States has donated vaccines around the world, fact of the matter is the vaccine patents continue to be an issue. And in response to that, Biden also called on leaders participating in this week's World Trade Organization ministerial meeting to waive intellectual property protections for COVID vaccines so they can be manufactured globally. And he was quoted as saying, I endorse this position in April. This news today reiterates the importance of moving on this quickly. But listen, stating that you endorse lifting the vaccine patents is very different from actually putting the work in to ensure that those patents are lifted. There was some disagreement among officials in Germany.

Angela Merkel, for instance, seemed to be resistant to the idea of lifting the patents. There should be some pressure applied to any world leader who's standing in the way of making this happen. Because again, this is a global pandemic. This is not about any individual country. It's about us coming together internationally to ensure that as many people we can get vaccinated, we make it happen. Because if we don't, this is just another variant and we're going to expect more in the future as the virus mutates among unvaccinated individuals.

And I got a revolutionary idea for how to make Biden and Democrats in general apply pressure to anyone because obviously they should be applying pressure to Merkel in that case, but Biden never applies pressure to anyone. But then I thought, wait a minute, what if we call them progressives? Then maybe Biden will be like, wait, I could pressure these guys, okay, all right? Get them him to actually pressure the rest of the world, the drug companies. But the reality is, yes, the European countries have been worse. Some of the European countries have been worse than us in lifting these patents. And they've been even more, greedy in helping the drug companies. But we haven't been much better, and it's not lifted. And,

you know, Biden said, yeah, sure, I'd like to do that. Okay, have I got the progressives off my back? And then he didn't do anything about it until now. And now that he's getting pressure because, oh, there, look, another variant broke out because we're not sharing the vaccine with the rest of the world. Then all of a sudden, he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, it was Merkel. And I, you know, I said it back in April. Get out of here. Yeah, exactly. Exactly, exactly. But look, Jank, I don't want this to be all doom and gloom. You know, I do want to look at some numbers regarding where we are with coronavirus cases, but also where we are with coronavirus deaths. Because fact of the matter is the vaccine has

proven to be very effective. And if you compare the numbers in the United States to where we were in February, for instance, I mean, we've made some significant progress, right? So let's take a look at this graph put together by the New York Times using their data tracking COVID cases. So if you see November 28th, that's yesterday. New cases, that's a lot, 23,950. But what we really want to take a look at is the number of people who are dying from the virus, right? So if you look at February 13th of 2021 this year, we had the seven day average was 3,146 deaths, okay? So every day, More than 3,000 Americans were dying from coronavirus. Fast forward to today, let's go to the next graph.

And you can see the numbers have gone down significantly, right? So we had 107 deaths on November 28th, that's yesterday. The seven day average was 792, which is still high. We want to get the number to zero, of course. But I think that the lower numbers relative to what we were experiencing earlier in the year is a testament to just how effective these vaccines really are in protecting America. Americans from getting incredibly sick and getting hospitalized or dying from COVID. Yeah, so I want to give a tiny bit more context to that too.

So on as late as Friday, I saw that the daily average over the last seven days was about a thousand a day. So a thousand deaths a day in the country is still awful. And it's three days makes one nine 11 every three days, right? And that's at it's near its lowest point now. But you see the second bump that we showed you guys there in that graph, that's the delta variant when that hit. But that hit about a third of the country in terms of especially regards to deaths because the rest of us were vaccinated. Now if there was no vaccine, that delta variant probably would have been two to three times the size of the largest upswing that you saw on that graph and then it would have killed instead of killing a couple of thousand people a day,

it probably would have killed six to nine thousand people a day. So it and hence I'm gonna bring it back to Omicron. We're now worried in America, oh my God, what about this new thing? We don't know enough about it and then panic sets in. Well think about the rest of the world guys. The real news story out of this is because we're not sharing the vaccine and only because of drug industry profit concerns, has the drug industry made enough of billions of dollars in profits? So many people across the world are actually dying. That actually is a cause for panic because they still don't have the vaccine. And unlike our knuckleheads here in the right wing, the rest of the world actually does want the vaccine and they're not getting it. And not only

is it hurting them and killing them at record pace still today throughout the world? But on top of that, it's producing these variants, which are then potentially dangerous to all of us. Right, we need all hands on deck. And that means not only looking out for our fellow Americans, but people around the world to ensure we get as many people inoculated as possible. Now, with that said, I hope people saw that conversation as an informative one. If you're looking for a non-informative conversation, just turn to right-wing media outlets who are already spreading insane conspiracy theories about Omicron. So let's get into it.

The former White House doctor who raved about Donald Trump's supposed good health is now spreading conspiracy theories about the new coronavirus variant known as Omnicron. Now this is Ronnie Jackson, who is no longer a White House doctor. In fact, he is a member of Congress out of Texas. And he said this, here comes the MEV, the midterm election variant. They need a reason to push unsolicited nationwide mail-in ballots. Democrats will do anything to cheat during an election, but we're not going to let them. So what Ronnie Jackson is claiming there is that the new coronavirus variant, the one that the World Health Organization is concerned about,

It's just a made up thing meant to help Democrats maintain their position of power. Because, Jank, if anyone knows anything about the Democratic Party, it would be us. And we have certainly witnessed firsthand just how calculating and savvy and strategic the Democratic Party really is. I mean, so strategic, so strategic that they would actually find a way to convince members of the World Health Organization. and government officials in other countries to play along with this ruse, with this lie about the new coronavirus variant. Well, there's two hilarious and absurd parts of that that really shows you how out of their minds the Republican Party has become. And again, you know, if you think mainstream media is tough on the Trump's borders, et cetera, no, they're not nearly

tough enough when it comes to the politicians and the leaders in the right wing. So number one, have you met anyone in the Democratic Party? They're serial bunglers. The idea that Joe Biden, who can't figure out how to get Joe Manchin to like agree to the simplest things, who can't pass voting rights, even though it's not only going to endanger democracy in America, but his own party. I mean, it's the most, it's the easiest thing in the world. They can't figure out how to pass things that have an 88% approval rating. You think they're doing global conspiracies and launching COVID variants?

Man, your estimation of the Democratic Party is so much larger than ours. The Democratic Party is filled with nincompoops and bunglers who couldn't do any of this, couldn't do 1% of this. But Anna, there's a second part that it reveals here. Look, guys, think about it. Doctors and scientists in South Africa discovery, this. And it's also in Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Botswana, et cetera, right? Now it's in the Portugal soccer players, national team. A game had to be shut down. You think they're all lying or they're all on Joe Biden's team? Like a doctor in South Africa and a Portuguese soccer player are like- Are you kidding me, Jank? The Portuguese soccer team is all about Biden. I mean,

they worship him. They do a little prayer to Biden right before every match. What are you talking about. Yeah, oh, that ole-o-le, that's also been misinterpreted. That's Joe. You tried, you tried. No, I mean, it's obviously incredibly dumb to even float this idea, but Ronnie Jackson can't help himself. And the conspiracy theory, of course, was repeated on other media outlets, right-wing media outlets like Fox News. So here is Fox and Friends, floating the same conspiracy theory, essentially. Let's watch. The answer is more lockdowns, more lockdowns, more fear. And therefore, he doesn't have to do his job of fixing the supply chain because we'll just keep this whole thing going.

It's always a new variant. And you can always, you'll count on a variant about every October every three years. Oh, I think it's going to, yep. You know, you're probably right. However, they could speed up at the variance could come more quickly and the We're going to need a new variant here. I mean, that argument doesn't even really make any sense, right? No. So I know, I know. I mean, I feel like I'm wasting my time even having to explain it. But anyway, we've got more video, but Chank, why don't you respond to that?

Yeah, so, okay, look, I don't know about all Republican voters and supporters, although it's probably pretty close. But now almost every Republican so-called leader, politician, you know, news person, whatever, whatever it is, they're all nuts. They just, they've all lost their minds. I mean, Ronnie Jackson was a doctor. He was a White House doctor. So when he came out and said that Trump was in the best physical shape that anybody's ever seen and that he was 6-3 and 239 pounds, that's just, that's insane. And when they asked him like, why do you think his mental health is that good and his physical health is that good? And he said, oh, his mental health, whoa, sharpest guy. Look, okay, and he's like, oh, it's because of genetics. He has really good genetics.

Okay, so I, but I thought at the time, Anna, I'm like, he's sweaty and they call him the candy man because you have how much like drugs he passes out apparently, right? At the White House, you didn't, yeah, that's. I didn't know about that. Yeah, so. But I thought he's a doctor. I guess he had some redeeming qualities I just didn't know about. Yeah, well, it depends. I'm kidding. Anyways, but I thought he's a doctor, right? I mean, so. I don't know, is there any chance that Trump actually weighs 239 pounds, right? He seems like he weighs a lot more, but I'm, you know, I don't know, he's a doctor. Now you look at what he's saying. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, they've all lost their minds. It doesn't matter what their profession is. Cuckoo for Cocoa puffs.

And here comes Fox and Friends of Goes out, oh, yeah, around election time, around October. Dude, we're in November. The election is next year. That would be October of next year. It almost couldn't be any further away. The Democrats can't even get a voting rights bill passed to counteract the voter suppression laws that were passed in red states like Texas and Florida and Georgia. I bring that up because like they still control Congress and they're still not able

to pass legislation that helps them secure a political future, right? not by cheating, but just by protecting our democratic process to ensure that the political opponents don't rig the system or game the system to their advantage. They can't even do that. They can't even do that. So the idea that they're somehow tactful enough to pull off this global conspiracy just so they maintain, maintain power is absolutely ridiculous. But guys, I saved the best for last because my favorite moment in regard to this story, did in fact happen on Fox and Friends. It was a different panel, but I just want you to pay close attention to that delicious tension

between Steve Ducey and Brian Kilmead. Let's watch. He was, this is terrible for the country. He was talking about science. It is, this is empirical science. Two flights landed Friday in Amsterdam from South Africa. There were 600 passengers on board. All right, so that wasn't the video I wanted to go to. Let's go to B2. too, because that puts it into more context. This is in regard to Anthony Fauci answering a question from George Stephanopoulos about whether

or not this new COVID variant might lead to, you know, more closures or mandates. Let's watch. Should we expect to be seeing more lockdowns, again, new lockdowns, more mandates? You know, I don't know, George, it's really too early to say. We just really need to, as I've said so often, prepare. for the worst. Let's see what the information that we're getting in real time tells us, and we'll make decisions based on the science and the evidence the way we always do. But you want to be prepared to do anything and everything.

So you've got to be prepared and we'll know more he's going to say through the president later today in two weeks. He should not be the lone voice. He has no credibility. This is terrible for the country. He was talking about science, it is, this is empirical science. I just love that moment because Steve Ducey's like, he was talking about science. This is empirical science. Shut your mouth. And he continued talking, Ducey did. And Kill Me just looked so confused. In fact, let's go to that last video, not the one we just watched, but the one that really zooms in on Kilmeet's face as Ducey shuts him up. So this is terrible for the country.

He was talking about science. It is, this is empirical science. Two flights landed Friday in Amsterdam from South Africa. There were 600 passes. Oh, he seems so rejected and so sad. Okay, so, you know, that's interesting there. You know, you almost never see Burton Ernie fighting. And so in that case, Ducey is, I think, getting frustrated with the rest of Fox there.

And that's an interesting development because he's like, yeah, it's empirical science. Don't give me this nonsense about Fauci and I wonder what he did with Bill Gates. And oh yeah, and they bring it together with a scientist out of South Africa. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the ticket, that's what happened. He's like, no, dude, it's science. Just shut up already about Fauci. And so- Yeah, look, I don't know what's going on with their relationship or what Ducey is really thinking you could only guess based on the way they handled that interaction there. But listen, take a step back, who isn't tired of COVID?

Who doesn't want to get past it? Everyone in the country wants to get past it. I want to travel. I want to enjoy my life. I don't want to have to wear a mask anymore. I don't want to have to like worry about boosters every six months. Like we want to get to a place where life seems at least a little normal. And to be honest, the longer this goes on, I think the more of a mental toll it takes on the population. I think that's part of the reason why we're seeing people lose it in public, right?

All these videos that come out of people just completely having meltdowns in public. I mean, that has escalated throughout the pandemic. And I think people are just desperate to go back to some form of normalcy. You can't do that if you have a pretty significant portion of our media spewing lies in, you know, in this effort to increase their ratings. It's just going to make this pandemic drag on and on and on. And that's what's happening right now. So I'm sure Ducey is just like, can we just, let's just get them the information that's accurate.

This is our audience, by the way. These are people who we rely on for the ratings. How about we try to keep them alive by giving them real information? I don't know, maybe that's what it's- Yeah. Look, if you live in our world, the reality-based world, it's hard to understand how much the Fox News of the world affect the rest of the country. So I read this account from a woman who's verified on Twitter and has a decent sized felony. I tell you that only because it shows you she's a real person, right?

And her brother and her father believed that it was all a hoax and they both got COVID. Of course they did, because if you don't take precautions, you're almost certainly going to get it. And then the brother left the hospital and lied to her and convinced the dad earlier to not treat it and just stay up. stay at home, they both died. They died because they believed these insane conspiracy theories. And then people have debates about whether I should call them crazy. No, that's not the debate. That's not the debate. There's like literally thousands of people dying every week because they think Fox News is telling them the truth or newsmax or O-A-N, etc. And they believe lunatics like so-called Dr. Ronnie Jackson and other grifters online who were trying to sell them Ibramectin or whatever else they're doing.

No, it's going to get you killed if you listen to morons on Fox News and conservative media. They're lying here for profit. And even Doocy can't take it anymore. And he's just shutting down his co-hosts because he's probably frustrated at how many of their own viewers that they've killed with misinformation. Yeah. All right. Well, we got to take a break. we come back, the Biden administration and Democratic officials are considering the nuclear option by pushing Kamala Harris aside and possibly endorsing Pete Buttigieg to run for president in the near future. We'll be right back. All right, back on TYT, Jenkin, Anna, with you guys. I was answering something during a social

break about double stuffed Oreos. I agree with Anna. a little too much stuffing on the double stuffed. On raisin brand, you got to do with the ones with the covered, the raisins covered in nuts? No. Yes. No, disagree. We will debate. We'll get into the octagon over this and I'll end you.

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That's a reference to something. Okay, anyways, I am going to read one last comment from our members, t.y.com slash join to be part of the show. Mr. Arrigan wrote in about Kilmead. He wasn't shocked. He was just trying to remember what empirical meant. Our member is not only smart, but really funny.

Yeah, I mean, I feel like Kilmead and Carlson are head to head when it comes to who can make the dumbest, like, look on their face during live TV. Yeah, but I think you're on to it that Carlson's doing it on purpose, whereas Kilmead is just a born natural. 100%. Yeah. All right, well, let's leave conservatives alone for a minute. to talk about some internal chatter in the Democratic Party regarding the possible use of what's being referred to as the nuclear option. I love this story, lots of drama, very, very good. So the internal chatter among the kingmakers in the Democratic Party is that Pete Buttigieg should run for president, possibly in 2024 instead of the so-called unelectable vice president, Kamala Harris. Now this is allegedly referred to as the nuclear option since Harris was supposed to be

the top pick to run as Joe Biden's successor. Now polls though are now regularly showing Biden's approval rating below 40%. And panic set in at the White House after a recent poll put Kamala Harris at an unelectable 28%. So you have all these Democratic officials, you know, maybe even some White House staffers scrambling to figure out what to do in response to this. Because as we know, Joe Biden may have said that he plans on running for re-election, but he's in my opinion barely hanging in there. Like he's going to global conferences, falling asleep, can barely keep it together. So I don't think that it's too far fetched to think that maybe Biden would step aside

and have someone else run in his place. Now Democrats desperately scrambling to find a potential successor to Joe Biden in 2024 are whispering about a potential nuclear option that could see Kamala Harris, the current vice president, nominated to the Supreme Court, Biden could then use Section 2 of the 25th Amendment to nominate a more popular vice president. That person would be the presumptive Democratic nominee, should Biden not run for reelection at the age of 82. Now, the Clinton appointee, Justice Stephen Breyer, is 83, there's a lot of pressure for him to retire. And if he would retire under this supposed plan, Kamala Harris could be nominated to the Supreme Court. But the real question is,

who would take Kamala Harris's place in running for president? And I've been seeing a lot of headlines about Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, who in my opinion is also a disaster. So apparently the 39 year old transport secretary has boosted his public profile by doing absolutely nothing. Let's just let's be clear about that. But according to Telegraph, he's boosted his profile by positioning himself as a key implementer of Mr. Biden's signature infrastructure legislation. Yeah, he's he's the transportation secretary. That's what the transportation secretary would be responsible for for, for carrying out bipartisan infrastructure legislation that was passed by Congress.

Like, why are we, first of all, why are we giving him props before he's done a damn thing? He hasn't done a damn thing, nothing. But like, Buttigieg has done nothing. Congress passed a corporate handout bill and he will now be in charge of implementing the corporate handout bill. But the way that he's being reported about in the press is like, he's really boosted his profile by doing absolutely nothing. But we're gonna pretend like he's done a lot because Democrats are desperate and Kamala Harris is very unpopular. It's amazing. Shank. Yeah, so the donor primary started early this time around because the donors

actually pick the Democratic candidate, the overwhelming majority of the time. So when you see all these stories, it's usually donors that are leaking and and starting this soap opera among the Democrats. And it was the donors who picked Kamala Harris to be VP in the first place. And then when they put Buttigieg's a transportation secretary, I knew at that moment that they were always planning to pass some corporate version of the infrastructure bill. Because Buttigieg is their rising star for the donors. They love him. But by the way, they previously loved Kamala Harris. They're just, they're not frustrated about her politics or her policy at all. The only thing they're frustrated at is in their view, her incompetence and her

inability to execute the corporate strategies that they want. Understand, this is amazing. Politico doesn't note it, none of the mainstream media articles noted. But there's absolutely no difference between Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg on policy. Zero, none. So this conversation is all about who do we think is the better face for marketing the corporate agenda. Well, it could be Kamala Harris. She's, you know, it's perfect for identity politics. She's black. She's a woman. She's even Asian. My God, this is a daughter's dream. And she'll do anything we tell her to do. On the other hand, Buttigieg Rising Star worked at corporate America already. It will do. Anything for donors, maybe even more than Kamala has. And he's gay and we'll put him on an infrastructure. We know we're gonna pass the infrastructure bill and almost nothing else that'll prime him.

And then if we need him and Kamala's having issues or Biden's having issues, we'll call him out of the bullpen. Well, they're going to the bullpen in like the third inning. That's what this story's about. And there's no real voters that are like, oh my God, maybe it should be Buttigieg in 24. None of these quotes are about voters at all or about- Exactly. Exactly. This is just a popularity contest among the donors in Washington. And look, a popularity contest is a part of politics, right? But it shouldn't be the only part

in deciding which candidates should go out there and represent the Democratic Party, run for president. Look, I don't know how this all plays out. But I think that your analysis here is correct. I think that the donors are panicking and they see the approval, the low approval rating for both Biden and Kamala Harris. They're trying to figure out what to do. Buttigieg has always been a corporate darling, a corporate favorite. Political reports that someone who has direct knowledge of these conversations said no one in the West Wing shut that down. Okay, it's very open. So it seems like this is something that the White House is privy to and they're, you know, strategizing in regard to Biden's successor. And then there's some activity taking place with

Buttigieg's PAC. So the political action committee he formed in the aftermath of his presidential race, win the era, is mostly keeping quiet, but the website remains up and has been organizing occasional events. Let me decode that for you, fundraising events, including one on November 15th. Former campaign aides, Maxwell Nunez and Michael Halley have been helping keep it afloat, according to filings and disbursement reports. Neither of them responded to messages when they were reached out by Politico. And so, like, I just want everyone to envision what 2024 is going to look like. If this actually goes the way that it's being reported in CNN, political, all these different outlets. If Donald Trump runs in 2024, imagine him just eating

Buttigieg for dinner. Like not even dinner, a little snack, a little nighttime snacky. Like, but what is Buttigieg? But what has Buttigieg done in his career other than serve as a failed mayor of a small town in Indiana? Then he gets appointed to transportation secretary. He hasn't done a damn thing yet, but he's gonna implement the policy. that was just passed by Congress. Okay, but that's like literally his job. What other experience does he have? And what proof do we have that he's even someone who is appealing to Democratic voters

and someone who actually would be strategic enough to beat someone like Donald Trump? I mean, the Democratic Party is a failed party and they continue failing. They don't know what to do because they would rather risk everything with a corporate as candidate than to actually maybe have a discussion, maybe take a look at what their voters, what they're base actually wants and maybe promote a candidate that would fulfill those needs. But they wouldn't want to do that because their corporate donors won't let them. Yeah, so there might be a silver lining in here, Anna, because they're opening the door for a primary in 24 because normally the way that this works is either Biden runs and then

everybody says you're a monster if you run against a Democratic incumbent. Oh, that's how Jimmy Carter laws, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, the usual stuff that they trot out. So a progressive would have no chance in 24 if Biden ran. But their backup plan would have been, Kamala Harris, that's the vice president. Oh, you're against women, you're against African Americans, blah, blah, blah, right? And she's the vice president, sit down progressives. And that would totally work. The media would just yell at all of us.

And they would trick good, honest Democratic voters into thinking that we're ruining their chance. is a beating Republicans, right? But if there's an open primary and Buttigieg is running as Kamala Harris and Biden isn't running, of course everybody else can enter. Don't get me wrong. MSNBC, number one cheerleader quickly followed by CNN would all tell you, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the corporate Democrats are allowed to run against each other, but progressives are not, and that would be against unity, et cetera. But that won't work. That's too dumb to pull off, Because most average people would say, wait, why aren't other people allowed to run?

That doesn't make any sense at all, right? That's a lie too big for even mainstream media to pull up. But guys, look at all of this. Look at the media and their marketing. In none of the coverage that they explained that Buttigieg was put into transportation because they were, a corporate infrastructure bill was preordained. In none of the reporting that they clarify how much the donors love Buttigieg. And in fact, they asked Buttigieg and Buttigieg says, oh no, no, no, I support the Biden Harris ticket. And I'm a loyal team made, and I'm not talking about it. And political actually

writes, now, even though Buttigieg is not pushing this idea, others are still trying to get him into the race. No, you don't really believe that, right? I mean, you can't call yourself a reporter and actually believe that. Why'd you write that junk on there? So you think Buttigieg isn't ecstatic about this? On which planet? Are you insane that a politician like Buttigieg is not excited that he's being talked about as a replacement for the next president? And oh, he doesn't want it. He said so to me as a reporter. Oh, come on, man.

You guys are all a joke. All right, we got to take a break. But when we come back, I'll explain that following the Trump presidency, the only person who's tired of winning is me because I was right about Tulsi Gabbard. We'll be right back. All right, back on T.Y.T. Jenkins, Anna, with you guys. There's one more time I wanted to finish a thought from our social media break. I was responding to Eric on Super Chat about Pete Buttigieg's leave. Guys, don't worry about the leave. He had a real legitimate leave. That's not an issue at all for

Buttigieg. His issue is his policies. But I just want to double down on what Anna said during the segment because it goes to corporate media propaganda. Even if he's going to do something in implementing the infrastructure bill, since it just passed, it is evident that he has done nothing so far. It's a fact, not mentioned in a single media story. They make it seem like he already implemented it. Exactly. Yeah, you can see it in the lies. It's so obvious how the mainstream media lies. Totally 100%. All right, All right, cast, take it away. Let's move on to our next story.

So former congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard has shifted her identity from a wannabe progressive, which I always knew was fake from the very beginning to now really just leaning into who she really is, a hardcore right winger who claims that there's nothing wrong with our justice system. In fact, to say that America is a racist country would be wrong because the justice system worked out just fine in the case of Kyle Rittenhouse and in the murder of Ahmaud Arbery. Let's watch. So the jury in the Arbery case got the verdict right today, just like the jury got the verdict right in the written house case. These jurors are our peers. There are fellow Americans. And these verdicts show in both these cases how these jurors had the intelligence and the

honesty to make the right decision based on examining evidence and facts. not based on race or politics. So these examples directly undermine the woke narrative that Americans are stupid and racist. Because if America was a racist country, like some people say that it is, Arbery's killers would not have been found guilty by a nearly all-white jury in Georgia. Now, most Americans, people of all races truly believe in and are inspired by Dr. Martin Luther King's adage, that we are all God's children. And as such, we should judge each other based on the content of our character, not the color of our skin.

That charismatic message from Tulsi Gabbard, who seems to not understand the fact that the Ahmaud Arbery murder almost went undetected without prosecution, which will give you the details of in just a minute. But also keep in mind that only one third of Republican voters, one third, meaning less than 50% think that the Amad Arbery trial played out the way that it should have, that the three men who were eventually convicted of murder should have been convicted of murder, only one third of Republican voters. That's according to an economist, you gov poll. But I also want to just quickly note that Tulsi Gabbard today is very different from the Tulsi Gabbard who was campaigning to be the next president of the United States. That was when she pretended to care about the inequalities in our justice system. Let's watch. What's your response? I want to bring the conversation back to the broken criminal justice system that is disproportionately negatively impacting black and brown people all across this country today. Doesn't feel the same way.

Campaign Tulsi, very different from right wing grifter Tulsi. Now, of course, I wanted to give you the details, Jank. about what really happened in the murder of Ahmaud Arbery because the three men who were convicted of murder almost were never even prosecuted in the first place. But before I get to that, you want to jump in? Yeah, so there's a couple of points here. Look, if Tulsi just wanted to say, hey, look, thank God, you know, this largely white jury decided to convict these three clear murderers, you know, it's a really low bar, but at least we're making some progress because back in the day in the South, they wouldn't have done that. That would be a fair point.

But then you have to give the full context about how long it took to arrest them instead of that Anna is about to give you. And it's not that Tulsi doesn't know the context we're about to tell you. She does know it. Instead, what she's doing is whitewashing. And so she's saying, oh, there's no racism at all. You know, the written house thing was terrific. The way he He went in there with an AR-15 for self-defense and provoked a fight and then killed him and got off. That was terrific. And now these guys got convicted. So that's it. There's no more racism. That's exactly what Fox News and other right-wing donors to Tulsi Gabbard and all of our enterprises want to hear. And that's why she's putting out that propaganda. Now the context.

Now, the three men who were involved in the murder of Amad Arbery, the McMichaels and their neighbor William Bryan, like we're not going to be prosecuted. In fact, not a single person in that case was arrested until 74 days, 74 days after Amad Arbery was gunned down on the street while he was jogging. Seventy four days. Now, I want to give you more details about what happened because the county commissioners accused the district attorney, her name's Jackie Johnson, of preventing the arrests from it happening in the first place because George, or I should say Gregory, Gregory McMichael was her former colleague and friend. And so she stepped in and tried to prevent them from getting arrested, which is why not a single person got arrested

for 74 days. The police at the scene went to her saying they were ready to arrest both of of them, said Alan Booker, the Glen County Commissioner. These were the police at the scene who had done the investigation. She shut them down to protect her friend Gregory McMichael. Oh wow, is that how the justice system is supposed to work, Tulsi? Let me give you more. Commissioner Peter Murphy, who also said he spoke directly to Glen County police about the incident, said officers at the scene concluded they had probable cause

to make arrests and contacted Johnson's office to inform the process. prosecutor of their decision, they were told not to make the arrest, Murphy said. Now, afterwards, Jackie Johnson, because of this massive conflict of interest, decided to recuse herself in this case. But then all of a sudden, you have this new prosecutor working on it, and he had conflicts of interest of his own. In fact, he didn't think that the prosecution needed to happen. George Barnhill Sr., a prosecutor from nearby Waycross, was given the case, but told investigators, the killing was a justifiable homicide. Now, how the hell do you watch that video of them boxing Ahmaud Arbery in the street,

shooting him, killing him when he hadn't committed a crime, when he hadn't done a damn thing, when he wasn't even an imminent threat to them? And then conclude, no, no, I mean, that's, you know, we don't need to prosecute anyone. We don't need to make any arrests. Later, George Barnhill ended up recusing himself because he had his own conflicts of interest. Barnhill also recused himself after being pressured by Arbery's mother, who raised concerns that the prosecutor's son used to work with Gregory McMichael in the Brunswick district attorney's office, according to a letter Brunhill wrote to the Glen County Police Department. As he removed himself from the investigation, though, Barnhill took the unusual step of telling law enforcement, he did not see grounds for the arrests of the McMichaels, arguing their actions were lawful because they were making a citizen's arrest of a person they believed. to be involved in a burglary. Now of course, Arbery did not commit any crime.

And Travis McMichael, the individual actually shot the gun and killed Ahmaud Arbery, testified under oath on the stand that Amad Arbery did not threaten him, did not reach for his weapon, and did not pose a threat to him. And of course Amin Arbery had no weapon. Right. So now, Tulsi, is there still racism in this country, especially in regards to the Amin Arbori case? Arbor case. Now let's just review real quick. First of all, three white men surrounded him and basically lynched him, shot him, and then Travis McMichael stood over his body and it's on

the video and says effing N-word. Gee, I wonder why he did it. I can't quite tell. I don't know. Is that complicated? So there's the racism initially of chasing down this man in the first place. Police come, they don't arrest the three people, including the guy with the shotgun. Now, think about it this way. Imagine there are three black guys with weapons and one of them killed a white jogger with a shotgun. You think the cops go, you know what, we'll come back for you tomorrow. I'm not sure what happened here. And you say it was self-defense. That guy doesn't have a weapon and you do. And you obviously killed him. I will come back. We'll figure it out later. It's inconceivable. They did not arrest him on the spot because

they're white and the guy who they killed was black, super obvious. But give the cops, In the job's credit, eventually they did want to arrest them because they're like this is, they obviously did it. It's clearly murder, right? Then other white power brokers in the area, including the DA, say no way, we do not arrest that white man. Even though it's obvious murder, and we all know it and it's on tape, they all saw the tape. And they said, do not arrest them. Gee, I wonder if there's still racism in America. I can't tell Tulsi. I don't know, did your check clear? How much did you get paid to say there's no racism in America? The only, he finally gets arrested 74 days later, only because the video went viral and it got media attention, they were never going to arrest them. They were never going to even arrest them. And then now afterwards, Fox News slash Tulsi Gabbard comes on, goes, you see that? Now because they have the conviction with overwhelming evidence. Now I declare the country completely non-racist. In this case, in this case, you'd have to be nuts to think.

that. But she's not nuts. She's greedy and she's a grifter. And she never meant a word of what she said about progressive policies. When we come back for the second hour of the show, we'll talk about Lauren Bobert, spreading disgusting smears and Islamophobia toward Representative Ilhan Omar. Later in the show, we're also going to have a little bit of fun, including Anthony Fauci striking back at Senator Ted Cruz. Getting a little spicy. Don't miss it. We'll be right back.

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