The Young Turks - Gangs & Gaslighting
Episode Date: September 6, 2024Georgia community mourns two students and two teachers killed in deadliest school shooting this year. Justice Dept. charges two Russian media operatives in alleged scheme. Police chief says Colorado a...partment not being ""taken over"" by Venezuelan gang despite viral images." HOST: Ana Kasparian (@anakasparian), Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ https://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER: ☞ https://www.twitter.com/theyoungturks INSTAGRAM: ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK: ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕 Merch: https://shoptyt.com ❤ Donate: http://www.tyt.com/go 🔗 Website: https://www.tyt.com 📱App: http://www.tyt.com/app 📬 Newsletters: https://www.tyt.com/newsletters/ If you want to watch more videos from TYT, consider subscribing to other channels in our network: The Watchlist https://www.youtube.com/watchlisttyt Indisputable with Dr. Rashad Richey https://www.youtube.com/indisputabletyt The Damage Report ▶ https://www.youtube.com/thedamagereport TYT Sports ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytsports The Conversation ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytconversation Rebel HQ ▶ https://www.youtube.com/rebelhq TYT Investigates ▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All right, live from the Polymarket studio in L.A. It's the Young Turks, Jake Ugar, Anna Kasparian with you guys.
So we've got a hell of a show for you all today. We have criminals to the right of us.
criminals to the left of us stuck in the middle all together. So I'm going to go off on both of
those different types of stories and then let alone the criminals running Texas. So a lot to
get to today. Anna Kasparian, take it away. Well, we begin with a story that actually broke
yesterday. I wanted to wait to see how it would develop, but it has to do with yet another
school shooting in the United States of America.
May of last year, the FBI received anonymous tips about online threats to shoot up a school.
The FBI traced those threatening posts on a gaming site to a then 13-year-old but found no reason to arrest him.
That same teen is now accused of killing two classmates and two teachers at his high school.
New reports indicate that the Federal Bureau of Investigation was suspicious about the very teenager who opened fire at a Georgia high.
school yesterday, killing four individuals and injuring others. Now, this shooting took place
at the Appalachia High School in Georgia, and the FBI, unfortunately, did not end up acting
on the intel they had about the shooter just last year. Now, the shooter is a 14-year-old,
and when he was 13 last year, the authorities found that there were some threats that he had been
making and the threats were very specific. We're going to get to those details and what those
specific threats were in just a moment. But first, I do want to give you some updates on the
shooting that took place yesterday, absolutely devastating and tragic. So the shooter is a 14-year-old
by the name of Colt Gray. He used an AR platform weapon. Authorities have not revealed how the shooter
obtained the gun. So this is still a story that is developing. The shooter was taken into custody.
and prosecutors say that they will be prosecuting him as an adult.
Now, in addition to the four people who were killed,
nine others were injured and hospitalized.
And I should note that of the four people who were killed,
two of them were adults, educators, and the other two were students.
Now, the teachers were able to alert law enforcement to the shooter
thanks to their IDs, which utilize a technology that allows for them to essentially hit
like a panic button. And that panic button will alert the authorities that there is an active
shooter on campus. And that may have helped lessen the number of deaths from this shooting.
Now, schools in the Georgia County will be closed for the rest of the week as a result of this
shooting. One of the students who basically was on campus, her name is 14-year-old Macy Wright
said, I went to go to school worrying about, I want, sorry, I want to go to school worrying about
what my GPA is going to be when my year is over and worrying about my career. I really don't
want to go back. I feel like I shouldn't have to go back to school worrying about dying.
And I think that this is a feeling that many other students across the country have felt
either because their school was victimized by a school shooter or because a school shooting
happened near them. Now, sadly, Macy is just one of the many students who have to reckon with
the aftermath of the school shooting. This was the 23rd school shooting in the United States this
year. And that's according to a database maintained by the Magazine Education Week, which counts
11 dead and 38 injured in such attacks so far this year. Now, before we get to the details about
what the FBI knew about the shooter before the shooting took place, Jank, you know, this year felt
like the school shootings slowed down a little bit compared to what we've experienced in previous
years. But clearly, this is still an ongoing problem in the country.
Yeah, so I read another story and they have different classifications for how they,
what they call school shooting, mass shooting, et cetera. And that story said 45 school shootings
so far this year already. So it hasn't quieted it down at all. And 385 mass shootings this year
already, that's about one and a half a day. And the standard for that is four people shot or more.
Okay, so that one is clear. There's been 385 mass shootings in this country. The O.K. Corral
had two people killed. And then they thought it was all wild, wild west, okay? Now the wild,
wild west is everywhere and on steroids. So I'll try to keep my rage under control for these
stories, which I don't do well with when it's school shootings. But, um,
It's the guns. It's obviously the guns. There's no question, it's the guns. The two problems are money in politics and an insane gun culture in America. And we can debate it. We could have, we could pretend it doesn't exist. We do anything we like, but we're letting them slaughter our kids because of this ludicrous culture that you should have weapons of war littered around the country for any lunatic to pick up and murder our kids and us with. I actually don't blame.
the FBI, read the details of that, Anna. And they went investigated. A, it was hard to prove
and you do have to prove it. And B, in America, a dad having an AR-15 and a whole bunch of weapons
all around the house, as long as he assures the cops. Oh, yeah, they're locked up. Uh-huh, uh-huh.
It's totally fine. Okay. Well, the audience probably doesn't know about the details about the FBI
and what they knew last year. So just let me go through that real quick so you can go off,
because I know you have a lot to say.
So according to the FBI in Atlanta in May of last year,
the FBI's National Threat Operations Center received several anonymous tips
about online threats to commit a school shooting at an unidentified location and time.
The online threats contained photographs of guns.
Within 24 hours, the FBI determined the online post originated in Georgia
and the FBI's Atlanta field office referred the information to the Jackson County Sheriff's Office.
for action. Now at that point, the Jackson County Sheriff's Office located a possible
subject. At that time, the shooter was a 13-year-old male and interviewed him and his father.
The father stated he had hunting guns in the house, but the subject did not have unsupervised
access to them. The subject denied making the threats online. Jackson County alerted local
schools for continued monitoring of the subject. At that time, there was no probable cause for arrest
or to take any additional law enforcement action on the local, state, or federal levels.
So, I mean, it's just interesting because they're arguing like, oh, we have no way of figuring out if he was really the one who was making the threats.
You know, he denied it. So I guess we're just going to have to take his word for it.
Really? Our intelligence agencies and our law enforcement doesn't have the tech or the tools necessary to figure out who posted the threats or where the threats are.
you're coming from specifically, come on.
Yeah, I know, but Anna, you know there's a second component that if they made an arrest
in that case, the right wing would have lost their minds.
Oh, no, freedom, love, a million or 50, of course, you know, they would have gotten nuts.
So what's the FBI supposed to do?
Okay, hold on, you can't make an arrest there because other than making the threats, he hasn't done anything wrong yet.
The threat is a, is a crime.
It's a terroristic threat.
Okay, but, okay, sure.
Sure, but look, my point is he took photos of the very guns that his father is claiming that he has,
he doesn't have unsupervised access to. So I don't know. I don't know what to make of it,
but it just feels like with all of the surveillance we have at this country and all of the fear
we have about mass shootings, I do feel like our law enforcement agencies tend to drop the ball.
Yeah, they definitely do. I mean, this was just last year. But Anna, they do. But in this case,
the cops went in and actually stopped the kid and they kid surrounded as soon as the police
came. And so it wasn't like Yuvaldi, where there was 400 of them sitting outside not doing
anything. This is a, there's two different issues here. One is generally speaking, cops in
this country are taught to be cowards. We're going to get back to that later in a story about
Venezuelan gangs taking over parts of Colorado where the cops were, I'm not going to do anything.
I'm not going to do anything, right? So, okay, but in this case, they did go in, all right?
But when we go to enforce the laws, the right wing loses their mind.
So if we had arrested that kid before he did the shooting or his dad,
they would have been the biggest heroes in in America for the right wing.
So what is guys, the AR-15s are weapons of war.
Just because you want to shoot bud light cans with them,
doesn't mean that our kids should be slaughtered for your dumb ass hobby.
There's no reason to have them, none, zero.
And I, you know, said on social media today, look, if the right wing wants to have fun shooting RPGs in the woods, are we going to give them shoulder fired missiles and allow that?
And almost all the right wing is like, oh, that's a really good idea.
And then of course when they come in with RPGs and murder our kids in schools,
they'll say, oh, it had nothing new with it.
It had nothing new with the shoulder fired missiles.
Yeah, it has everything to do with assault weapons that kill and murder people much, much,
much easier.
That same 14-year-old, how many people was he going to strangle to death?
How many people was he going to kill with a knife instead?
It wasn't going to be four and injuring nine.
It wasn't.
Those weapons make it infinitely easier.
They have no use at all in civilized society.
And the Second Amendment has nothing to do with it.
The Second Amendment says for a well-organized militia.
Was a kid in a well-organized militia?
You guys are just, I know, I know, the right wing will never agree.
My hobby is more important than your kid's lives.
I got it, I got it.
But you're never going to solve this.
And the people say, oh, mental health problems.
Every country has mental health problems.
Literally, there's no country where they're like, oh, there's no mental health issue at all.
Except unlike us, they don't come and go, oh, you got a mental health problem.
Here's an AR-15.
Here's an AR-15, right?
So that's the reality of it.
If you have more guns, you have more homicides, more suicides.
These are all stone-cold facts that's not even close to in dispute.
When you say that I want my guns and my AR-15s and my assault weapons, you're saying I value them more than I value your kids.
So you can catch all sorts of feelings about that, but the rest of the country is catching feelings.
I'm not saying, Anna, I'm saying the audience, whoever the right wingers out there are, or if you're a left winger, we're like, oh, I got a hobby, my hobby is so much more important.
Look, I hate it, I loathe it, and I want people to be honest about it, because we're never, ever, ever going to fix this problem, as long as two things happen.
Money in politics, every Republican politician is bought by the NRA, gun merchants, gun manufacturers, et cetera.
They're the worst criminals in the country.
And in the gun culture in this country where they think, you know, as long as I get to have my weapon of choice and I get to fantasize about killing cops and U.S. military service members when I have a face off with the government and my daydreams about being Rambo are much more important than your kids.
So that's the reality.
So I agree that other countries also have issues with mental health.
I think the U.S. is pretty unique in being a developed country that whenever there is a mass
shooting, we'll pay lip service to how we need to do something about mental health, but we don't
do anything about mental health.
In L.A., we literally have people who should be in a mental health facility wandering the streets,
wasting away.
sometimes they're having episodes which causes them to do violent things.
We don't care about mental health in this country at all,
and we don't do anything about mental health in this country at all.
Let's keep it real.
The other thing that I'll say, Jank, is, okay, so what is your solution to this?
Like, ideally, okay, you get to snap your finger,
you get everything you want on this issue.
What would you want to do?
Yeah, first of all, one part of it is super easy.
Ban assault weapons.
There's no reason.
You don't need assault weapons to protect your home.
You don't need assault weapons to go hunting.
The only reason to have assault weapons is shooting bud like cans because you're a moron
who thinks you're going to murder cops in U.S. military in the woods when they come over
with the tyranny of government and to murder people.
So there's no reason for it.
So I would ban it and it would save thousands of lives.
Thousands, because all these shootings, they might still happen with traditional.
additional weapons, rifles, handguns, et cetera, but a lot less people are going to die.
Okay, look, if I had it all the way, like, okay, this will never happen in America, but
I would say you're allowed to own a gun, but you have to have it locked in a locker that is
not in your house, that is in a facility somewhere else, okay?
I disagree.
Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know, okay.
Okay, but Jenk, okay, look, you and I have a lot of these private
conversation. So let me, let me just ask you publicly, okay? As a Californian, as an Angelino,
you know full well that right now there is a huge problem with what Karen Bass, the mayor of
L.A. has dubbed crime tourism, where people are literally coming here from other countries.
Okay, they're flying here on short-term visas. They're committing crimes, including invading
people's homes to rob them as they are in their homes. Okay. And what are people supposed to
If there are people coming in fully armed, ready to rob them, threatening their lives.
They're not allowed to have a weapon to defend themselves in their own home.
They have to have it locked away in a lockbox in some other location.
That makes no sense.
No, Anna, it doesn't make sense because we're already in an ocean of weapons.
That's why my proposal is, I think is definitely the right one, but we'll never be implemented in America.
So if we had implemented my proposal in the first place, we wouldn't be in an ocean of guns.
So when you arrive from Venezuela, by the way, they're coming in through the airport,
The criminal gangs wouldn't be like, here's a weapon, here's a weapon, here's a weapon,
everybody gets a weapon because there's like over 300 million guns in the country and
nobody's doing anything about it.
And if you arrested someone for having a weapon, the right wing takes your head off.
So like, it's not realistic at this point when there's already hundreds of millions of weapons
out there.
But we, but let's keep going.
Let's make it 400 million, 500 million.
And you know what'll happen?
More people will die and everybody will go, go, go, gee, what should we do?
about the mass shootings and then the answer is super obvious ban the weapons that are doing
it but they won't instead they'll have nonsense conversations about mental health as if america's the
only place that has mental health issues and about too many doors and etc and by the way that that
should definitely be arrested so you said that it was not on supervised access turns out it was
you said it was only hunting rifles and it turns out it was an AR weapon so you were lying the whole
time. And by the way, when I talk about gun culture, look guys, it's a lot of it is uncomfortable
and there's a lot of good people who participate in a normal part of so-called gun culture.
And this guy says that he was a normal part of it. And I get it. And I know people who've done it
and I know that like it's an important part of your life, which is hunting, okay? I understand
that. Having said that, he started teaching his kid like, I don't know, but I guess earlier
than 13 to go how to handle weapons, shoot weapons, hunting, etc. Well, these, I know I got kids,
they're not mature enough to hold a weapon, shoot a weapon, and think that the answer to life's
problems is shooting weapons. So that's part of the gun culture and a lot of good people participate
in that culture and they'll be super mad at me and they'll say, no way, that's no problem
at all. But you're wrong. Teaching young kids how to shoot guns is a terrible idea. Terrible.
It's not at all surprising that a certain percentage of them to go, hey, dad, good idea.
Instead of using it for deer, why don't I use it to murder the kids that are annoying me in school?
You know why? Because there's 13 and 14. And some of them have mental health problems.
Giving them weapons is dumb.
Well, there's now precedent with one of the past school shooters not only facing consequences for what he did, but his parents facing consequences for getting him the gun and being negligent in doing so. So I don't know if further investigation will find that the father engaged in some form of neglect here or was not responsible with his weapons. But I do think that holding parents accountable is one.
of the ways to address this issue. I'm not saying it's the only way, but it's one of the tools
that I think could be utilized to mitigate this to some extent. Yeah, I'm going to do one
last comment here from one of our members. So look, for those of you who are watching the video
later, you know, we do a show live every day, 6 p.m. Eastern Young Turks on YouTube. And I read
some of the member comments throughout because they're great comments. I'm going to read more
during the social break live. But let me read this one. Wong John wrote in, you'd think the pro
life slash pro family crowd would be livid to see more kids dying needlessly instead every
time there's another shooting they cover their eyes with an NRA check so also indisputable
how come the pro life groups don't care at all about the school shootings where babies and
kids are being killed you don't care they don't care they don't care about the 15,000
Palestinian children that were murdered they don't they don't care about kids they just
care about it. Give me your body, women. I want to go back to the good old days where I controlled
your body. You having control over your own body. Terrible. Wait, wait, wait. You're pro-life.
You care. Oh, look at all those kids shot with guns. Yeah, but I like my guns. Who cares
about the kids? I'm pro-life. Are you? Are you? Or do you just want to control women's bodies?
Anyway, hit the join button, become a member, and have me rage about your comments.
Thank you, Wong. That was a great comment.
All right. Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll talk about the big viral story involving alleged Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment complexes in Colorado. Don't miss it.
All right, back on T.I.T. Jane Hanna with you guys. Also, Deborah Kingtai. Thank you for join. Appreciate it. And Evan Wendon, thank you for upgrading through the join button. And anyone who signs up a premium level or higher or upgrades, we appreciate you guys so much. Look, I wish we didn't need it. But as you saw yesterday, we'll talk more about today, we're not getting $100,000 a video by the Russians, right? If we were, we wouldn't have to ask you for anything. So you know we're honest because we're asking you,
to compensate us in ways that the right wing doesn't need at all because they apparently have
millions and millions of dollars of money going towards them in crazy ways. Anyways, all right,
Anna. All right, well buckle up. This story has lots of twists and turns. And we're going to
take a trip to Aurora, Colorado. You're watching footage from last August featuring members of
the Venezuelan gang Trend de Aragua, breaking into an apartment unit in Aurora, Colorado.
Now, a shooting later broke out in the building's parking lot. And there's also some video
footage that shows armed men confronting a driver in the parking lot of the apartment complex.
Let's put that up. So if you look closely at the kind of upper right hand side, you see a car parked
and you see individuals approaching that vehicle armed with guns.
Luckily, in this case, the footage doesn't show anyone getting hurt or getting shot.
But apparently this particular apartment complex, according to some of the residents and former residents,
has been riddled with all sorts of gang violence over the last year.
But this incident has sparked a big debate and I believe some gaslighting about whether or not
There is a problem with Venezuelan migrant gangs, basically taking over apartment buildings or causing violent crimes at these apartment buildings.
And the local government can't seem to keep its facts straight or its story straight.
So look, at first, the mayor of Aurora, Colorado admitted that there actually is a problem with Venezuelan gangs.
Let's watch.
These gangs apparently are attracted to where there's a concentration of Venezuelan migrants.
And so they've in fact, have kind of pushed out the property management through intimidation and then collected the rents.
Arrests have been made, but these operations are now are still ongoing.
After that, it appeared that the state and local leaders kind of went into panic mode because they started to claim that there's
There's no problem at all.
What do you mean?
This is a figment of your imagination.
In fact, the governor, Jared Polis, claims that the allegations are figment of your imagination.
And Aurora's interim police chief said that the gangs had not taken over one of the complexes.
Now, depending on what you're hearing, you're hearing different things.
And whether or not this is a widespread problem in Aurora, Colorado remains to be seen.
Let's be clear about that.
But the issue of this Venezuelan gang carrying out violent acts and crimes in the area,
there seems to be a lot of evidence of that while the Democratic lawmakers and leaders in
the state and local level want to pretend like it's not happening at all.
Now let's go to the evidence. There's a law firm representing the lender to the landlord
of that apartment complex, okay? Remember, this is the lender. The lender wants to know,
hey, I've loaned a lot of money out. I want to know what's going on with this apartment complex.
So the lender hires the Perkins-Coe law firm and they start to investigate claims of gang violence
because the lender had caught word that there was an issue of gang violence at this apartment complex.
The law firm says that it interviewed witnesses and reviewed video from the whispering pines.
That's the name of the apartment complex for its investigation.
they then shared their report with Aurora Colorado's top administrators on August 9th.
Now the video that we showed you earlier was taken later in August. So even before that incident
occurred, there were already concerns about gang violence. There was already a law firm
investigating it on behalf of the lender. And they submit their report on August 9th.
And they also sent it to a local CBS News affiliate. And the report was further confirmed by
the Aurora Police Department, which is now denying that there's a problem of Venezuelan gang violence
at this apartment complex. So first, here's what the report found. The evidence we have reviewed
indicates that gang members are engaging in flagrant trespass violations, assaults and battery,
human trafficking, and sexual abuse of minors, unlawful firearms possession, extortion, and
other criminal activities, often targeting vulnerable Venezuelan and other immigrant populations.
So the person who authored the report on behalf of the law firm, T. Marcus Funk wrote, and he is a
former U.S. attorney. So look, for the lefties who are watching this, who are concerned,
oh my God, oh my God, my God, please, please, please don't report the truth because it's going to
paint migrants in a negative light. The migrants are the ones who are victimized by this.
So if you care about migrants, if you care about immigrants, you should not want them to live under
these conditions. Let me go to more of the report where they write that the gang activity at
Whispering Pines escalated in 2024, according to the document obtained by CBS News, Colorado.
In April of 2024, a housekeeper called the property manager informing him that two individuals
at the property went into an apartment, came out with large firearms, and were coming to
kill him, the property manager. The individuals were apparently passed due on rent. The property
manager said, quote, that the two individuals were arrested as they were coming to kill him, end quote.
The report says the men who were armed with large firearms were gang members. Now, the property manager
went on to say that the gang members allegedly stabbed a whispering Pine's resident for refusing
to pay rent to the gang. Since then, the property has recorded footage of gang members knocking on
doors without authorization or without any justification, attempting to collect rent from the tenants
of Whispering Pines. And then in June, the report says suspected gang members approached the
property manager and offered to help the manager if he agreed to pay the gang 50% of everything
the property management company collected in rent. Now, the investigators who wrote the
report said gang members said that they were taking over vacant units at this apartment complex
and would start collecting rent from the tenants.
And they allegedly said, quote, this is our business plan.
One gang member told the housekeeper, if he, meaning the property manager doesn't like it,
we will fill him with bullets.
The report says video footage shows Trenda da Agua, trend de Agua gang members violently breaking
into vacant apartments, kicking doors open and also moving Venezuelan immigrants into
the empty apartment units.
And I'm about to get to confirmation of all of this by the Aurora Police Department in just a minute.
But before I do, Jank, I want to give you a chance to weigh in.
Yeah. So guys, I don't know what the disputes about.
So the left wing is saying what?
Did they didn't take over the apartment buildings?
They just, they're there.
They're obviously there.
There's no question that they're there.
And did they take over some apartments?
There's no question that they took over some apartments.
So they're saying what, the lawyers are lying about the entire building being taken over.
Remember, it's not the property owner.
Now, a lot of people say, oh, the property owner is a bad guy.
That doesn't prove anything.
The property owners could be bad guys that don't take care of the rodents and the bedbugs, etc.
And a Venezuelan gang might have taken over the apartments.
Those two facts are not at all logically connected.
So I don't see how that disproves that there's a gang there.
So there's more evidence coming that Anna's got for you guys.
I was very persuaded by local news.
Unfortunately, we can't show the video from local news because of copyright issues.
But number one, the legal report that Anna is referring to was super clear.
And I don't know why people are surprised that gangs do extortion.
Of course, of course they do, right?
And so, and then I was very persuaded by a local resident, a Latina working class woman that we're going to show you in a minute who told her story of it.
So it's definitely real.
The only question is, is it the whole building?
Is it some of the building?
And is it no big deal if it's just some of the building?
So we'll get into those questions in a little bit.
But it's no question that it's a giant problem.
And the other question we'll get into in a minute is who's responsible?
Because that mayor, I think, is the most responsible.
And he's making it seem like, oh, no, Biden's the most responsible.
We can get into that conversation.
But brother, Biden doesn't run your city.
You do.
Send in the goddamn cops if you think there's gangs taking over buildings.
Yeah, and it does appear based on what one of the former residents is going to say,
and you're going to hear from her, that the police didn't really want to deal with it.
So we'll get to that in a moment.
In response to that law firm's report about the gang violence,
basically the Aurora Police Department provided confirmation.
In fact, they had their own reporting on this,
and their own reporting fell in line with what this law firm was saying.
So for instance, an officer reported responding to a call from a house cleaner at
Whispering Pines. He said she told the police she was threatened that she needed to give up the
keys to the vacant apartments at the Whispering Pine Apartments so that a group of Venezuelans
could move people into the whispering pine apartments. The officer reported, quote, suspects left,
but not before warning her to comply or else they would kill her or her family. The Aurora
officer wrote to fellow officers, I would highly recommend you guys take two to three friends,
with you when responding to any calls there. So clearly the Aurora Police Department was spooked
about responding to any calls at this apartment complex. When CBS asked the Aurora Police Department
about this, especially considering how they have recently denied gang violence as a problem,
here's what they said. Quote, the information and claims in the letter underscore why Aurora
Police Department and other law enforcement agencies formed a special task force.
to investigate violent crime impacting migrants and other communities in the Denver metro area.
So which one is it? Is there a problem with Venezuelan gang violence in the area or isn't there?
Because on one hand, they say this isn't a thing, figment of your imagination.
On the other hand, they're like, no, no, totally. We created like a special task force to deal with it.
And by the way, just going back to something that Jank referenced really quickly.
So there are still tenants living in this apartment complex. Many of them are low income.
Many of them are migrants.
And so recently they held a protest to protest against the landlord who does seem like a giant
piece of, you know what.
They complain about bedbugs.
They complain about rodents.
They complain about the terrible conditions that they're living under.
And some of them are saying, no, no, no, the gang violence isn't the problem.
The real problem is the landlord.
But both things can be true, guys.
The landlord being neglectful and not taking care of the building could actually attract.
crime. That usually happens when gangs or criminals see a building kind of falling apart.
They see it as an opportunity to come in and take over. And so I don't see that as, oh, well,
it's one or the other. It could totally be both. And how do you account for all of these reports
and all of this evidence that's pouring in in regard to the issues that they're having, not just
in this apartment complex, Jenk, but in the area in general. And look, there have also been some
pretty interesting arrests ever since this story went viral. Let's go to this next graphic.
where the Denver Post reports the police have identified 10 people linked to the
Trenna Aragua gang who are operating in Aurora and six of those people have been arrested
and are in custody. Aurora police spokesperson Joe Moylan told the Denver Post. Some are in custody
in connection with a previously reported shooting on Nome Street in July. And so that
shooting took place on July 28th. Two people were shot. One other person was injured. Now,
Moyland said that the officers have not yet arrested any gang members on charges related to collecting rent from residents at the Aurora properties.
So these arrests are separate, but it also shows that there is a presence of this gang in Aurora and that police are trying to grapple with it.
By the way, that interim police chief declined to comment on how many criminal acts connected to Trenda Aaragua members are currently under investigation, citing the ongoing investigative work.
he said the police department has been investigating the gang for a year and that the residents making complaints about the gang's activity have largely been migrants who live in the buildings. Let me read that one more time so people can hear it loud and clear. The interim police chief said that the residents making complaints about the gang's activity have largely been migrants who live in the buildings. Why are we allowing them to be victimized by this? This is
ridiculous. Yeah, so look, again, you're going to hear from one of the residents in a second,
and it's compelling. But I think almost everyone involved in this stories full of crap. So the
governor Jared Poles, who I like for other reasons, but in this case, Anna's 100% right,
there is no problem. That's why I did a task force months earlier. Okay, that doesn't make any
sense at all. And then the mayor, Mike Kaufman, who's a Republican, polls as a Democrat.
This is a problem that because of the border, rather the border is what, hundreds of miles,
thousands of miles away from you, would?
Do you run the city or don't you?
Like let's say that a terrible gang came in cross the border, which actually they largely fly in,
and they drove all the way to Colorado and they came to Aurora, Colorado.
So you're going to do nothing about it because, oh, Biden should have done something earlier.
So I'm just going to let them do it.
Or busting.
Remember, Denver was one of the places.
where Greg Abbott was busing migrants into.
So I don't know it.
Look, I don't know how these individuals arrive to that area.
But that's just something you should keep in mind because that was something that was happening.
So Mike Hoffman, look, actually, I'm the most mad at him because he's the one that's going,
there's a big problem.
And I'm not doing anything about it.
So which one is it?
Then I guess you're a loser, total utter loser who should definitely be fired in the next election.
who says, oh, there's giant gangs taking over buildings.
And I'm not going to send in the cops.
I'm not going to send in anyone.
All I'm going to do is blame Biden for political reasons.
Okay, well, you seem like a real profile in courage and not at all full of crap.
Obviously, you're full of crap.
If you think it's a giant problem, do something.
Otherwise, you should obviously be fired.
Now, right wing, left wing.
So the right wing says, oh, because there's a criminal migrant gang, we should ban all immigrants.
Well, that doesn't make any sense.
And overall, when you look at the crime rates, we've been over this many, many times.
I hate to break it to you guys, but native-born Americans twice as violent, twice as many crimes
as undocumented immigrants, and four times as many crimes as documented immigrants.
So if we're going to kick people out of the country based on how much crime they commit,
we'd have to kick out the native-born Americans.
And now right-wingers are going, ah, hold on, dude, it's not my lunch.
It's your logic.
If you're saying based on crime, native born people are the biggest criminals.
So I, if that breaks your heart, wait, but wait a minute, you say that about immigrants.
So when I say it factually about you, why does it bother you?
Oh, if it bothers you, you think it might bother them, especially when you're lying about
it, about them?
Now on the other hand, the left wing, why do you guys want to deny that any crime exists
in the world?
Like where do you, like, how do you think that gives you credibility?
And like, well, how does it help anyone?
I mean, you claim to care about migrants.
Then why don't you care about the migrants that are in those buildings?
In fact, I think the cops aren't going in.
The mayor didn't do anything because they thought, what difference does it make?
It's migrants.
It's their people.
Let them deal with it.
No, no, we don't do that in America.
We're all one here.
We're citizens.
We're U.S. citizens.
Okay?
You go protect those people.
And left wingers, I just don't get it.
I don't get it.
If you're pushing back against the demagoguing of immigrants, I just did that.
That's how you do that, okay?
But if you say, in order to push back against that, I'm just going to pretend that no immigrant
has ever committed a crime and that those gangs aren't here and they haven't taken over
anything, you sound ridiculous.
Yeah, I think the problem is that everything has devolved into extreme partisanship.
And one of the most common comments I've gotten on Twitter about this, just simply
noting what the facts are is, oh, it's really sad to see that you're now on the other team.
No, no, I need everyone to understand someone. I'm not on anyone's team, okay? I want to know what
the truth is, and I'm really not interested in lying to my audience in order to protect one
team or the other. So let's hear from Cindy, who until very recently was living in the apartment
complex, was begging the cops for help, and they were not helping her. Let's take a look at
Cindy, again, former resident of the Whispering Pines apartment complex.
City council member helped her move out recently.
Now, she says that she's been dealing with so much violence in the building that she bought
six cameras to provide evidence of what's been going on.
And the videos that went viral were her videos.
It was because of her cameras.
Now, here she is speaking about her experiences.
I believe it was your doorbell camera video that we have been watching.
watching for the last few days of what appear to be gang members, heavily armed, trying
to get into the apartment across the hallway from yours.
What did you see there and how bad did it get in that building?
On this particular date, it was really bad.
But it is not by any means an isolated occurrence, unfortunately.
I have months, almost a year and a half worth of footage from six separate cameras.
Earlier that morning, I had seen several individuals carrying assault weapons down to the next floor of the building adjoining mine.
And I reported it to the police.
So all day, we were nervous and on high alert anyway because they told us that they really couldn't do anything unless something happened.
And we were just waiting all day for it to happen.
We knew it was coming.
Wait a minute.
You've got people running around the apartment complex with long rifles and pistols.
you call the police and the police say they couldn't do anything about it?
I said they weren't coming.
Yeah, that is outrageous.
By the way, some streamers have decided to smear the city council member who helped this woman,
who's low income, move out of her home into a safe place to live.
And they smear her the city council member as racist because she is concerned about this crime that's going on.
Okay. Now, Cindy also provided evidence of, you know, bullet holes around the building, a bullet hole in her vehicle.
So there's one example. This was in the building. And then here she is standing with a reporter by her Nissan.
And if you look at the next photo, you'll get a closer look at a bullet hole that her car obviously has as a result of the shootings and the violence in the area.
So look, you can't fix a problem or solve a problem if you're in denial of a problem.
And clearly there is a problem here.
And it's difficult to know the extent to which this criminal gang is operating in the area
because it seems like there's this real effort to pretend like it's not even happening.
And I have a huge problem with that because I think that migrants who are here should be able
to live in peace.
They should be safe.
American citizens should live in peace.
They should feel safe.
And the idea that we should just allow this type of criminal activity to happen unchecked is ridiculous to me.
Yeah, so I find both the leftist streamers and the cops infuriating here.
They just won't go to protect those people.
And I mean, and the leftistreams, you're looking for racial issues and you're blaming the commissioner who's actually trying to do something.
How about the cops who won't protect the Latino and Latina immigrants that are there that are asking, begging for help?
So cops do your goddamn jobs.
Your job is to serve and to protect.
We have a culture of cowardice in our police departments in this country where they're
taught, don't take a risk with your life.
Your life is so much more important than the citizens.
Don't take a risk, don't take a risk, don't anywhere.
Oh, they took over an apartment or an apartment building or half the apartment building,
whatever it is.
Ah, there's a bunch of migrants that live there, who cares?
And now left the stream is you're not supposed to do the same thing.
So here, Octo Squiddies member on Twitch has a good question.
Jake and Anna, please tell us who the left is that you keep referring to and never defining.
I'd really like to know as a self-escribed leftist.
No problem.
Because we do that sometimes on the show.
You don't know what we're referring to.
Do we mean the whole left wing?
Absolutely not.
Okay.
The majority of the left wing is perfectly reasonable on this.
Are they?
You and I might have a disagreement here, Jank.
Yeah, we have a massive disagreement.
You give those tiny little leftist streamers way too much better.
They're not tiny little leftist streamers, Jank.
Hassan called the city council member racist.
I don't care.
Move out of that.
But like that's not a small streamer.
That's a huge streamer.
That's not a small person.
Okay, I mean, look, what are we going to get into this now?
We're going to be like Trump with crowd sizes.
No, but okay.
But hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Okay, but do Democrats come out and push back against that narrative, Jank?
Just the mainstream Democratic Party, do they come forward?
forward and push back against that narrative.
Because you have the Democratic governor denying all of this.
So I don't know who on the left wants to do something about it.
Anna, look, you have to be specific.
Okay, I'm so glad Octo Squitties asked that question, because we have to be specific about who we're talking about.
So if you're saying, oh, well, you know, Hassan or some other leftist streamers is big, so that counts, well, TYT network is much, much larger.
So okay, we win, we represent the left.
So we can play this game all day long, all day long.
Come at me, 400 million views per month.
So we definitely represent the left, more than any streamer, no matter how popular they are,
pretending to speak for the left, never showing any polling, never showing any facts,
never showing anything about how they represent left-wing voters in this country.
And if you tell me Democratic politicians are doing the wrong thing, that's called Tuesday.
Democratic politicians and Republican politicians almost always do the wrong thing here.
So we have a collaboration here from the Republican mayor, the Democratic governor,
Democratic president, the local cops.
They're all like, I don't want this problem.
Who cares?
A bunch of working class Latinos are having a problem.
Who cares?
Just ignore it, right?
So don't talk to me about the Democratic Party.
What I'm talking about is the great majority of left-wing voters are, of course,
normal real Americans who don't want crime, that's so obvious.
Only the craziest leftist streamers are like, oh, there's no crime, there's no crime,
there's no crime, there's no crime, if you ever mention crime, oh, you're a white
winger, you're a right winger.
It's a ludicrous.
You show the bullet holes, you show the guys taking over the apartment buildings, you show
the residents, you show a giant report about how they have in fact taken over apartments
and done extortion, et cetera, and they're like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, no, no, no, no, no,
There's never any crime, and crime is awesome, and there's nothing wrong with crime,
and you guys shouldn't be worried about it.
That does that, you know what percentage of actual human beings believe that?
Like, maximum 2%.
98% of left-wing voters do not want Venezuelan criminal gangs or American criminal gangs
taking over the apartments of working-class people who are just trying to survive in this country.
So let's be accurate about who we're criticizing, but it definitely isn't the left-wing voters.
Yeah, no, I don't think it's the voters either. I think it's people with microphones. I think that it's to some level elected lawmakers as well, both on a local state and federal level. But I agree with you on the voters. Of course people don't want to live like this. So anyway, we're massively out of time. We've got to take a break. But when we come back, I wanted to get back into the DOJ's indictments of two Russian nationals. That indictment has some details that I wanted to revisit because we have some more information about the people.
behind the US-based media company that was peddling Russian propaganda.
We'll be right back.
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All right, well, let's get to our next.
story. We have some updates on the Justice Department indictments of two Russian nationals who
work for RT and how a Tennessee-based media company called Tenet essentially used prominent
right-wing content creators here in the United States to unwittingly spread pro-Russian
propaganda. But one person didn't do so unwittingly. And that was the co-founder of Tenet, Lauren
Chen, the other co-founder is actually her husband. So the indictment didn't list their names.
And I want to be clear that Lauren Chen and her husband have not been indicted. There is a
possibility they could be in the future, depending on how this case plays out. But the indictment
does clearly note multiple times that Lauren Chen and her husband seemed to know that the
money was coming from Russia. And they went to some lengths to basically conceal that
fact from the content creators, even fabricating a person out of whole cloth.
So let's get into those details.
Actually, before we do, Jenk, we covered this story yesterday when you were out.
And I'm sure you have a lot to say about the story in general.
So I'm going to give you an opening to just tell me what you think so far.
Yeah, look, we've had beefs with some of those guys.
And at different times, we've gotten along with some of those guys.
So on a personal level, I wish this story wasn't, didn't exist and that they had never done this.
But I got to be honest with you guys.
So they're getting paid $100,000 a video.
Okay, now if we were paid $100,000 per video, we'd never have to ask you for another dime again.
Okay, because that's not the economics of digital media.
So some of the videos, we get 8,000 views.
That's like 50 bucks, man.
So then they ask, okay, who's giving the money?
And they claim, oh, it is just a wealthy businessman and they make up a name.
You didn't Google the guys, because if you Googled, you'd know that he doesn't exist.
So you never even bothered to ask.
They're getting $400,000 a month for just four videos.
If you do that over the course of a year, that's $4.8 million.
And you didn't bother asking who was giving you that money.
You didn't bother Googling and all the videos happen to be pro Russia and against Ukraine.
Wow, what are coincidence.
So this whole thing of like, we were victimized too.
I'm sorry, but I mean, I'm not saying that they're criminally responsible or anything like that.
But don't tell me that you had no idea what was going on.
And golly, gee, no, sorry, but I don't believe you at all.
So look, the content creators, Tim Poole, Betty Johnson, Dave Rubin.
there were others, but those are some of the more prominent names.
According to the indictment didn't know where the source of the money was coming from and
that they were lied to by tenant media and a lot of the details of what was going on was
intentionally concealed. But Jake, the most shocking part about this whole indictment is that
one of them actually did ask questions. And it was the person I least expected, Dave Rubin.
Okay, so Dave Rubin wanted to know more about like this wealthy businessman who's like funding the whole operation.
And not only did they make up a name, they made up a resume.
Okay, they like literally made up a resume.
And in the resume, apparently the thing that alerted Dave Rubin to potential red flags was that I guess social justice was mentioned in the resume.
And he's like, social justice. I don't know about that.
But there is no other indication, at least according to this indictment, that the content creators knew for sure what was going on.
So who knows the story could develop from here, but that's what we know so far.
But I want to be clear, I'm not saying that they definitely knew and somebody told them, hey, it's the Russians and they took the money anyway.
What I'm saying is when someone says, I'm going to give you a preposterous amount of money for this video, and then they give you a fake name and you don't bother Googling it.
And then they tell you to say ridiculous things in favor of Russia.
And I mean, another part of the story that's amazing is, you know, they say one of the
producers goes, well, this seems like overt shilling.
It's in that indictment.
And they go, shut up and say it.
And they go, okay, yes, sir, of course, sir.
Please.
So you're telling me you had no idea that the massively pro-Russian anti-Ukrainian videos,
you were getting paid $100,000 a video to do, like you didn't, at a bare minimum,
you didn't look into it at all because you didn't want to know.
Why didn't you want to know?
Because you had an excellent idea where that money was coming from.
So we're going to show you the very part of the indictment that Jank is referring to.
But let's get into the founders of tenant media, which was at the center of this whole
influence scheme, influence peddling.
Now, according to the indictment, Lauren Chen and her husband,
Liam Donovan, referred to as founder one and founder two in the document,
worked together to mask U.S. company ones, that's tenants,
a true source of funding, including from the company's own talent,
which includes Tim Poole, Benny Johnson, and Dave Rubin.
Now, altogether, tenant media took in nearly $10 million from the Russians to carry out this
influence campaign in the United States.
And if you're wondering, okay, how was the money divvied up?
About $8 million went toward the content creators.
And when it comes to Lauren Chen and her husband, they took about $700,000, nearly a million
of that money for themselves.
But the real moneymakers here were the content creators who, according to the indictment,
were unwittingly spreading Russian propaganda.
Okay, so let's take a look at the portions of the indictment that I think are interesting here.
So the indictment says describing U.S. company one's investor to commentator one and commentator two,
the commentators of course are the content creators, as Edward Gregorian, a purported finance professional in Western Europe,
founder one and founder two, that's Lauren Chen and her husband, admitted to each other in their private communications that their investors were in
truth and in fact, the Russians. The same term that Founder 1 and Founder 2 previously used to
refer to RT while working directly under contract with RT as described above, Lauren Chen had
been working with RT beginning in 2021. That's just a bit of information to know about. On or
about May 27, 2023, Founder 1 messaged Founder 2 on Discord. Quote, I'm going to ask the Russians
about hiring Producer 2 this coming week.
Approximately two days later,
Founder 1 messaged Producer 2 on Discord.
Here's a list of responsibilities I sent over to the investors
to approve bringing you on,
waiting to hear back on timelines salary.
On or about August 8th of 2023,
Persona 1 informed Founder 1 and Founder 2 in Discord
that the request to hire a producer slash Booker was approved.
So I give you that portion of the indictment to show you that they would just kind of refer to the, you know, the source of the funding as our investor, our investor.
And, Jeng, to your point, I totally agree that it's like hard to believe that any content creator, certainly a content creator like Tim Poole or Dave Rubin, who know what it's like to make money off something like YouTube.
Like, it's hard to believe that they would just buy that there's like a, you know, benevolent investor who's not.
not, you know, trying to influence pedal in the United States.
But you also have to remember that on the right wing, there's all sorts of billionaires
who just give money to media outlets to regurgitate the message that they want them to
regurgitate. That is not illegal as long as it's an American businessman doing it.
What was illegal in this case was that there was a very clear scheme by the Russians to spread
propaganda here in the United States. And their front was a U.S.-based media company that they
were funding. And by the way, I should also note that RT had previously been sanctioned by
the federal government. And so RT knew that they couldn't just influence Petal under their
own name. So this was kind of a roundabout way of doing it. Yeah. So look, this is, this story
is super frustrating because I want to have cross partisan conversations. And I want people to be
open minded. But we have to point out things that are obvious. So look, to Anna's point,
There's a, in the right wing media ecosystem, there's so much money.
And people get paid by fracking company founders and heirs to the fortunes of different, you
know, banks and railroad companies and oil companies left over, et cetera, right?
There's just so much, Matt Sheffield, who used to work here, used to be on the right,
He actually helped found newsbusters a big right wing media site, et cetera.
Then he came over to the left, and he often talks about this, and he did while he was here.
The biggest difference between the right and the left is in the right wing, there's so much money.
There's money everywhere because they're paying for propaganda, whether it's for fracking, it's for Russia, it's for drill baby drill.
Whatever it's for, it's filled to the room with propaganda.
On the left, there's none of that.
So he comes over, he's like, where's the money?
There's no money, right?
So here we actually, on the left, we actually have to earn our money.
And so that's, and digital media is so hard.
All these companies have gone under, Mashable, Mike, attention, what all, like, dozens of
companies have gone bankrupt because it's so hard to make a living.
Then you see a guy like Dave Rubin, works here, you know, we all have, you know,
modest income, et cetera, right?
Gets a nice paying job at riot media that has nothing new with politics.
I go, great, fantastic.
Good luck, Dave.
We appreciate it, et cetera.
We're on great terms.
All of a sudden, he takes this massive turn to the right while pretending to be on a classical, liberal,
or whatever the hell he was saying, right?
And then it starts attacking us wildly, and all of a sudden, a giant mansion pops out.
And then you look at his views and you're like, those are microscopic.
How is he getting this much money?
Because when you go to the right wing, it's like shopping for which funder you would like.
Who's propaganda would you like me to do, which is ironically very similar to mainstream media.
And let's note that too here.
So it's not a defense of these guys, it's two things can be true at the same time.
Mainstream media is tutting, well, okay, you guys take $17 billion from politicians
every election cycle these days, that's at least the last one, and then you guys tell
us that the politicians are honest and that we should never talk about money in politics
as all the money in politics comes to you.
So US politicians buy you instead of Russian politicians.
So look, I'm just giving you all the context here.
But that's why that right wing media ecosystem being filled with so like millions and millions of dollars in propaganda money is an odd but true defense of these guys.
They might have felt like, I don't know, these guys give us money all the time to say stuff.
Oh, these guys happen to be Russian.
I mean, probably would have taken it if they were Libyan.
I don't know.
But we don't have that on our side.
That's why we do the fundraising.
That's why we ask you to be members, et cetera.
But when you see those mansions popping out out of nowhere, when there's like 18 views on something,
you begin to get a sense that somebody's funding that.
Okay, so two more parts of the indictment that I want to read to you.
So let's go to graphic four here where the indictment states on or about May 12th of 2021,
founder two, message founder one on Discord, quote, so we're billing the Russians from the corporation, right?
like honestly jank the openness in which they're referring to the source of funding makes me wonder
were they just incredibly negligent and like just not careful at all with the crime that they
were committing or did they not realize that this was illegal now again the founders of tenant
have not been indicted and i don't know why that is i don't know if it's because the
DOJ is working on those indictments or if these two individuals are cooperating with the DOJ
as part of this investigation. I have no idea. But the way they just openly say to each other
in written form, we're getting the money from the Russians is just weird to me. Okay, but that is
what it is. No, look, Anna, my two thoughts on that are, one is, you know, yesterday we were getting
it from Exxon Mobil. And earlier we were getting it from J.P. Morgan Chase. And today,
we're getting it from Russia.
So maybe it's Tuesday to them, right?
And the other thing is if you ever say the word Russia,
you know what's going to happen with the right wing.
It's a hoax, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
Russia's the most innocent country in the world.
And you're going to get like nuclear blast of right wing lunacy
anytime the word Russia's mission.
So they probably figured out, we're safe.
We can just take anything we want from the Russians.
And if anybody criticizes us, we'll say Russia, Russia, Russia,
and yell hoax at the top of our lungs.
I'm surprised they're not doing it in this case.
Now, finally, the part of the indictment that Jenk had referenced, I think it's important for you to know the details about it, and brace for impact as I try again to pronounce a difficult Russian name. But here's what it says. On or about February 15th, 2024, one of the Russians who has been indicted, and that's Afinaseva, shared with U.S. Company 1, a video of a well-known U.S. political commentator,
visiting a grocery store in Russia, that was the Tucker video where he visited a grocery
store and pretended like double level grocery stores, like this big revolutionary thing
that we don't have in the United States, even though we have a lot of those in the United
States. But anyway, so that Russian agent posted the video in the producer Discord channel.
Later that day, producer one privately messaged founder two on Discord, saying, quote,
they want me to post this, referencing the video, but it just feels like overt shilling.
Founder 2 replied that Founder 1 thinks we should put it out there.
Producer 1 acquiesced responding, all right, I'll put it out tomorrow.
So that's kind of how the pressure to publish certain things kind of worked out.
It wasn't like overt pressure, but it was, no, I think this is good.
I think you should post this, that kind of, you know, encouragement.
Yeah, here's the encouragement. You're going to get $100,000 when you post that video.
That's all the encouragement you need. And so look, if you wonder, hey, this weirdo Tucker Carlson video in a Russian grocery store telling us how the Russians are so much better off than Americans and we should be more like the Russians.
Why is that everywhere? Well, this is part of the reason why it's everywhere. Because they're telling people, hey, get that out there.
Tell everybody that the Russians are the best that America sucks. And they're like, oh, I'm getting paid $100,000.
Y'all, yeah, oh, look at that, the Russian grocery stories are the best.
Look at Tucker Carlson telling us how great they are on the Ukrainians suck and America sucks.
And we've got to make it great again because America's so bad.
But Russian grocery store, they're amazing.
Give me the check, give me the check.
Keep it real.
You didn't know.
You didn't know.
Okay, guys, one last thing.
So it's not like the videos were like, hey, here's one on the Philippines.
Here's one on Brazil.
Here's one on Russia.
Here's one on health care.
Here's one on gun control, et cetera.
No, they were all pro-Russian, anti-Ukrainian, pro-Trump, by the way.
So you couldn't put two and two together?
That was a giant mystery to you and you're the victims?
No, brothers and sisters, you got $100,000 a video.
You ain't no goddamn victim.
The final thing I'll say is, look, guys, this isn't just damaging for the reputations of the individuals involved.
This is damaging for anyone who has an opinion that goes against.
the grain, especially as it pertains to the ongoing war in Ukraine and whether or not the U.S.
is really helping or hurting in that effort. So if you have problems with how that war is being
carried out, well, now you're just automatically going to be assumed to be like some sort of
Russian agent when you might have legitimate, sincere opinions on that that might align to some
extent with what someone like Tim Poole would say about it, right? The other thing is, you know,
Lauren Chen has been drawing a lot of attention to APAC and the Israel lobby.
So now the Israel defenders are going after anyone who speaks out against APAC and accusing
them of being foreign agents. So this kind of behavior is, first of all, I mean, I'm disgusted
with any foreign government trying to have any influence over our media or our political
system. I don't care what the country is, period. But it's also.
going to have a destructive impact on people's ability to speak freely and honestly about
their analysis on incredibly important political issues.
Yeah, look, last things I'll say. Number one, we're consistent here. So I don't like APAC buying
American politicians on behalf of Israel. I hate it. And if you think it's not happening,
you're being ridiculous. Oh, yeah, Joe Biden, it's just a natural born Zionist, not because
he got over $11 million from APEC.
Okay, you could tell that story to anyone you like.
But you know what?
When you look out of that way, Joe Biden is Tim Poole on steroids.
Oh, I know that you catch feelings over that one, right?
But is Israel a foreign government, or isn't it?
Was he paid over $11 million to support a foreign government, or wasn't he?
He was.
Maybe he was paid by Americans, but he was still paid to support a foreign government,
which he has religiously done throughout his entire career.
So at the same time, you shouldn't take money from the rushes and pretend you're being honest on air.
And for all the folks who couldn't tell who was telling the truth and who wasn't between us and Dave Rubin, I think you have your answer.
All right, let's take a break.
When we come back, an insane story out of Texas where the Texas Attorney General, Ken Paxton, is attempting to stop people from registering to vote.
And then later in the show, one of the most hilarious efforts by the right wing to say,
smear Tim Walls. It's probably my favorite story of the day. So stick around for that and more.