The Young Turks - Gaza Occupation Plan - August 8, 2025
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All right. Welcome to the Young Turks, Jake Huger, John Ida-Rolo, Mark Thompson, on a power panel of epic proportions.
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Okay, so guys, big show ahead, Israel with more ghastly pronouncements.
But the world is starting to fight back a little bit, so that's interesting, okay?
And is Trump fighting back? Well, there's some reports.
Then MAGA fighting back against Trump being Israel's puppy dog.
So that's interesting, that's coming up a little bit later in the program.
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Nancy Mace with yet another outrageous thing.
And when we did the Trump madness, one of the topics in the final four was political prosecutions
that Donald Trump had promised against his opponents.
That made to the final four of the worst things he's done.
Well, now he has begun those prosecutions.
So we will explain that later in the program as well.
All right, so.
You just made me think you know how some people are going through Project 2025 in score?
scoring what percentage has already been done.
You gotta go through those and see how many is making good on.
But anyway, why don't we start with actually some of what you just teased?
Instant destruction in Gaza City this morning after an evacuation warning.
No injuries reported this time.
But this now the very place which Israel's security cabinets has agreed to take control of.
The approved plan focuses very specifically here on the
largest city in the enclave, home to hundreds of thousands of people. Some here say they'll
refuse to move again, having returned to their homes after being displaced before.
Yes, as just said right there overnight, the Israeli security cabinet voted in favor of the
complete occupation of Gaza City, paving the way for the eventual, perhaps inevitable,
takeover of the entire strip. They had a meeting, it was somewhat divisive, it lasted for 10 hours.
There was apparently heated debate between Netanyahu, who clearly wants to take over the entirety of the strip cleansed at all of that.
And the leader of the IDF, Ayal Zamir, who's warned that a military, military occupation of the entire strip would endanger the lives of the remaining Israeli hostages inside of Gaza.
According to four Israeli security officials, he also shared concern about the current level of exhaustion and fitness of reservists and about the military becoming responsible for governing millions.
of Palestinians. Now, I think as we're going to get to, it's not only the head of the IDF,
but also many of the families of the hostages that believe this increasing military conquest
of Gaza would endanger the hostages, which obviously would be a good reason to not do it if
the goal was to recover the hostages. But if your goal was to just militarily conquer
Gaza, then yeah, this is what you're gonna have to do. And Netanyahu has been very clear
about which of those two is actually driving his actions. And so they have not okayed the entire
strip being conquered just yet, just Gaza City as of right now. But the five principles,
which we're gonna show you right here that Netanyahu's office said the security cabinet
agreed to make clear that this military operation is not going to just end with Gaza City.
You can see they're saying there are five principles for ending the war. Israeli security control
in the Gaza Strip, disarming Hamas, returning all the hostages, including the bodies of those
who've died, the demilitarization of the Gaza Strip, and establishing an alternative civil
administration that is neither Hamas nor the Palestinian Authority. And of course, as a matter
of fact, basically, they already control the vast, vast majority of Gaza, depending on who you
talk to, it's somewhere between 75%, that Israel says it controls. The UN says about 86% or so,
are either militarized or under evacuation orders, and this is only going to increase that.
As was said in the video, of course, Gaza City in particular has a very large population,
something around one million currently living there. It was smaller before the invasion of Gaza,
but of course many people have been herded into there. And so it looks like they're taking
another big step. I suppose, Jenk, they could have voted in favor of the complete annexation
of Gaza, so I suppose this is better than that.
What do you think?
Yeah, I mean, okay, no, I don't find that interesting at all.
We'll cover that in a month.
Yeah, it's, it doesn't matter.
Look guys, there's two major things happening here.
And then I'll break down some of the important details.
One is Israel is trying to conquer land in the modern world while still pretending to
be part of the West and civilized society, et cetera.
And it's going to be really interesting to see if they can pull that off.
Now, I'm not talking about the moral outrage.
I'm going to get to that in a second.
But in just like looking at it from a historical perspective, is it possible for Russia and Israel in the year 2025 to just say,
we don't care about the people that are our neighbors.
We're just going to murder them and take their land.
So that's what Russia is doing in Ukraine.
That's what Israel is doing in Gaza right now.
And they're also doing it in the West Bank just slower, right?
And Israel has announced their intentions over and over again to take with the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
So they don't necessarily do an official pronouncement like this, but their cabinet ministers say,
Netanyahu talks about greater Israel, Netanyahu is talked about from the river to the sea.
Netanyahu has brought a picture of the greater Israel to the United Nations and giving his speech.
Miriam Edelson, as reported by the Israeli press, backed Donald Trump.
So that Trump would allow Israel to annex the West Bank.
You didn't hear that wrong.
the West Bank, let alone Gaza, right?
So here's Israel in the middle of the whole world on the stage going, yes, we're starving
them to death, moving them to a camp, and yes, former Israeli prime minister is called it
a concentration camp, and we're going to squeeze them all out.
We're going to take this land for ourselves.
So now you're going to see a little bit later in the show that Trump said it was starving.
and Net Yahoo called them it and furious and saying,
how dare you ever disagree with anything I said?
Okay, so we're gonna find out, can Israel,
now that people are seeing it happen,
control America 100% and take this land
and murder those people and drive them out
and get away with it.
So that's what they're trying to do.
We're gonna get to world reaction in a second.
So number two thing is I need you to understand this
because it is not at all clarified in almost any of the articles.
You have to go to page, I mean, paragraph 37 to find out this information on like a quarter of the articles.
As John alluded to, they're going to have to move a million Palestinians in Gaza City to do this.
How do you think that's going to go?
Do you think that's going to go humanely from the people who murdered 1,400 people waiting in line for food just recently?
By the way, that's more people than Hamas killed on October 7th.
If I hear Netanyahu talking about how October 7th is the greatest tragedy known to humankind as he does as he's done over 50 October 7th in Gaza, including on starving people waiting in line for food, I'm gonna vomit and the whole world is vomiting right now.
I don't know for supporters of Israel, how you think this is helping you?
You have to be mental.
You freshly escaped from a mental asylum to think that this helps Israel's reputation, longevity, creating a safety.
Haven for Jews, et cetera, right?
So that moving those million Palestinians is going to be a slaughterhouse.
So that's why even the head of the IDF is like, really?
And by the way, the head of the IDF is a terrible guy.
Not only did he do all these massacres, is he responsible for the slaughter in Gaza?
But earlier in 2018, when the Palestinians tried something that was nonviolent, going
up to the gate that is keeping them prisoners in Gaza.
He ordered their assassinations.
He murdered 150 innocent people that were going up to the gate, including an American
journalist, sniper shots.
So he's among the worst guys on the planet.
And even he's saying to Netanyahu, are you nuts?
Now it's not going to be 150 or 1,400.
We're gonna just kill like an endless parade of human beings to move a million people.
Palestinians and take Gaza?
You have to be out of your mind.
And then Yahoo and the terrorists that are in the Israeli cabinet,
we're like, yeah, we don't care.
What do you think we did this for you, Schmuck?
What to get rid of Hamas?
What do you?
I don't tell me you're a naive fool.
We don't care about Hamas at all.
To get the hostages back, who cares?
Let him get killed.
No, we're taking Gaza, get it through your head.
The whole point of this slaughterhouse is take the land to set up
greater Israel.
So that's super obvious.
I'm happy to have a discussion about it,
but I think that all rational people can now see that.
I hope, but we'll find out.
So, and then now the details real quick before we get to Mark.
Okay, in their so-called peace negotiations,
they say that we, they want Israeli security control of the entire Gaza Strip.
That means occupy the entire Gaza Strip.
Where's the compromise?
The whole point was a ceasefire, the entire time has been,
Hamas saying, we'll give the hostages back.
If you give us some prisoners and get out of Gaza, right?
Israel's been pretending, oh, yeah, maybe one day we'll get out of Gaza.
Sure, yeah, which is the whole point of ending this thing, that you eventually leave Gaza and let the Palestinians govern themselves.
Of course, he's not going to do that.
So his offer is complete another surrender and a humiliation and you get nothing and I get everything.
And then the last part was that Hamas and the Palestinian authority, in fact, no Palestinian is allowed to govern Gaza.
Well, who the hell is going to govern it then?
Oh, let me guess, Israel.
And then of course, like the absolute lie of all lies that all of American press will now repeat.
And I've seen it in all the articles.
Well, Israel says that after they take all of Gaza, they will one day return it to the Palestinians.
I mean, you gotta be the world's biggest sucker to believe that.
I mean, it's preposterous thing to say, let alone believe.
So every part of this is just as bad as it can be.
And finally, you get to the hostages.
So what they're doing here is they're calling him on.
They're saying we don't think you're going to kill them.
We don't think there's anything you could do.
So we're going to come in and you have no hope for peace left, okay?
We just told you there's our only offer is complete another surrender,
humiliation, allow us to take Gaza and write it down, by the way, sign off on us owning Gaza.
Nobody's going to do that and no one should do that, okay?
So now that there are no options left, at some point if Hamas is to be,
believed they have to kill the terror, they have to kill the hostages, which is stomach churning
and awful, and I hope they don't.
I hope to God they don't.
But Nanyahu is saying, go ahead, go ahead, kill them.
I don't care about them.
Do you think I cared about the people who died on October 7th in Israel?
You think I cared about the 61,000 people I murdered in Gaza?
No, the whole point is I murder a lot of people and then I take your land.
And that's the offer I have for you.
So I hope Hamas was bluffing and they don't kill those hostages.
But now that the percentage chance of them getting killed is sky high because of this.
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Mark, curious about your thoughts.
Well, I'm kind of a disagree with you on your take on the notions that Netanyahu is obviously a despicable, demonic figure in modern life.
His view is something we can only guess at.
But on the Hamas thing, I think he's not figuring, look, we don't think you're going to kill the hostages.
I think he thinks just the opposite.
We think you are going to kill the hostages.
In other words, nothing we can do can save the.
these hostages. Therefore, I'll continue with this policy, and that's where I would agree with you,
this policy that makes no sense. It's really the re-annexation of Gaza, as you know, Jack and John,
because the Israelis left Gaza. They had control of Gaza in 05, and they disengaged. It was called
the disengagement. And they did so with many Israeli businesses and many agricultural concerns
in Gaza being burned and destroyed, and the Gaza strip was turned over to the Palestinian Authority
at the time. Now, I'm not suggesting that that was a plan that was all designed to, as an olive
branch. In fact, there, if you really drill down, many Israelis who would say, no, it was designed
to freeze the peace process at the time, you know, to kind of prevent a permanent Palestinian state
from being established. So there's a lot here. Look, what we can agree on, I think, without question
is most of what Jenk has just said, which is this is a humanitarian horror show. And I don't get
the end. The one thing I would say is that the entire Knesset, the ruling parliament of Israel,
doesn't agree with this. And as you know, Jank, there are tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of
thousands Israelis taken to the streets who disagree with this as well. So I always hate it when
Israel, which is clearly pursuing this as a government horrifying, immoral policy, which is a jihad
on the part of Benjamin Netanyahu. I hate it when two broad a brush is painted over the
Israeli people because there's a lot of pushback in Israel around this as well. And Netanyahu,
as you know, Jank, this is a policy to save his skin. Because,
He is an outlaw. He's a lawless leader just like Donald Trump. So there's a lot going on here. There are a lot of cross currents. But most of all, this is an absolute humanitarian crisis of the greatest extreme.
Yeah, it's just real quick before we go to John again with more updates from how the world's reacting to what Mark said. Yes, Israel withdrew from Gaza 20 years ago. But people say that as if Gaza had sovereignty. The Palestinians had,
were a state. No, they were not a state. They didn't have any sovereignty at all.
The minute they did anything that Israel disagreed with, they would get bombed.
They had to, they didn't control their own borders. They had to go through humiliating checkpoints.
They couldn't even come close. If they came within a couple hundred yards of the fence,
the current IDF head who at the time was in charge of the wall, would order that they'd be murdered.
So they could be murdered at any time by Israel. They had no sovereignty at all.
So I don't want people think, oh, well, they gave Gaza and then look at what they did with it.
No, it's, there wasn't a real state and there's some chance that it was a trick, as Mark alluded to.
Now, to the Israeli citizens, look, there's, I feel conflicted about this.
On the one hand, there's polling that shows that they want them to keep going in Gaza.
The majority in Israel do, and that is disheartening.
And that is a coarsening of the culture that is heartbreaking.
On the other hand, Mark's absolutely right.
There are tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of protesters in Israel.
There's a lot of people who want the hostages back know this is a problem.
And yes, plenty of people who think that enough already in what you've done in Gaza.
And not only is it hurting the Palestinians,
but they rationally conclude that this is harming Israel significantly in the world stage and with America,
et cetera, let alone their former prime ministers and the former heads of Shinbet.
and so former idea of soldiers, let alone the Jewish community worldwide, the top rabbi in
America, the top Holocaust, Easternian America, et cetera, all the way down to the people confronting
Alan Dershowas says he's being banned from buying a parogi. And he's like, you're all, you're
an anti-Semite, you're an anti-Semite, they're like, I'm Jewish, I'm Jewish, I'm Jewish, right?
So all these activists who've been pushing for peace and trying to do the right thing, unfortunately
governments sometimes turn into a horrific situation and that's what's happening with the current
Israeli government, John. Yeah, yeah, and the devastating thing is if, I mean, you know,
they get a lot of negative pushback. If they take the land, then they have it. They have it
for effectively forever. That seems to be the calculation. Russia obviously knows they look
terrible with what's happening in Ukraine, but look at the deal that apparently Trump and Putin
have agreed to. They get to keep all the land. And so that's, that's the world order that's being
set up. You can just, you can invade, you can commit war crimes, ethnically cleanse areas,
and who's gonna stop you? Who's gonna stand up to the UN gonna do something? Especially
with Trump in power, he supports all of this. These are his buddies, or worse than buddies
in the case of Netanyahu, where he's clearly the submissive in the relationship.
That said, we're gonna get to those reactions really fast, I should let you know. They say
Palestinians have until October 7th, conveniently, to evacuate
Gaza city and that's where they're going to launch their ground invasion.
As so it was said in that video, many do not plan to leave or can't conceivably.
I mean, these are people who've been starved, like what are they going to do?
Like how are they going to do that?
And so God only knows how many people are going to die as a result of that, if they even
wait until October 7th.
Here are some satellite images showing the massive and rapid buildup of infrastructure
and military vehicles.
Now maybe those were moved there so they could just sit for several months without being used.
I guess that's possible.
I'm old enough to remember what happened when Putin had built up all of his forces over
the border from Ukraine, saying they weren't going to use it.
So we'll see.
As Jake has been saying, there has been significant backlash, not only from some of the forces
he was talking about inside of the United States, obviously the UN, Europe as well.
The hostage families forum, an organization representing the families of the hostages
still remaining, put out a statement saying, we are appealing to the cabinet.
The expansion of the fighting is a danger of death and immediate disappearance for our loved ones.
Look us in the eye when you choose to sacrifice them.
And so that is a good statement.
They're obviously scared about what might happen to their family members.
But we've been covering this for a very long time.
And I feel like there's always a point in one of these big stories where we get to a statement from the families of the hostages.
And they're always being ignored.
Netanyahu does not.
He's never, he's barely even pretended to care about what they think about this.
And as Jake said, former Israeli leaders, political military, have put out statements as well.
The Israeli opposition leader denounced this move, saying that the invasion could lead to many
other disasters, not only the deaths of the hostages and the killing of many soldiers,
but tens of billions of dollars in costs as well as diplomatic bankruptcy, which that same
sort of comment, Ahud Barak, former Israeli prime minister, had written in the end of July an opinion piece
talking about Israel becoming a pariah state. So that's sort of now out there. This concern
that you are doing very long-term damage to the reputation of Israel by continuing this.
You have 550 former Israeli security officials, including the former head of Shin Bet,
sending a letter to Donald Trump saying, it is our professional judgment that Hamas no
longer poses a strategic threat to Israel. And our experience tells us Israel has all
it takes to deal with its residual terror capabilities remotely or otherwise.
Of course, I understand that they're trying to appeal to Donald Trump.
The idea that Hamas posed a strategic threat to Israel before all of this is absurd.
The idea that they posed a significant tactical threat is kind of stretching things.
But even they're admitting, come on, what are they going to do?
Like, pretending that you need to ethnically cleanse the entire Gaza Strip because of Hamas.
That just does not, that it's ridiculous at this point.
But unfortunately, as we've covered on the network, as I'm sure they've covered on the Young Turks.
Earlier this week, Donald Trump, like a beaten dog in his press conference, just says,
well, you know, it's going to be whatever Netanyahu wants it to be.
This guy that loves throwing his weight around, silverback gorilla alpha male, not with Netanyahu.
It's whatever the dude wants to do.
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Yeah, and notice, so everybody in Hezbole leadership is dead, everybody in Hamas leadership is dead.
And you know, Israel used to use the excuse of Hamas fires rockets into Israel.
I'll just tell you why I call it an excuse in a second.
But notice they haven't done that a long time because there are no rockets left because there's almost no Hamas left.
So they don't have that excuse anymore.
Did it stop them?
No.
And if all 20 of the hostages were killed today or returned today, it doesn't, better yet,
returned along with the bodies and Hamas got nothing in return, right?
Do you think Israel would stop?
There's no chance Israel would stop.
They'd come up with a new excuse and then our media would repeat that excuse as if it's
legitimate and then have a fake debate about it and then Congress would send them another
five, 10, 20 billion dollars, right?
So this has nothing to do with anything.
of that. Can Hamas in the old days do some damage to Israel? Obviously, look at what happened
on October 7th, right? But that was startling because it was so extraordinary, so rare that
they could do that kind of damage. But that's the kind of damage that Israel does, I don't
say daily, but some days, okay, but certainly weekly. Weekly in Gaza, Israel regularly
murders that many people, right? So like the idea that the Palestinians are an existential
threat to the best defended nation on earth is preposterous. The Palestinians are down
to stones. And when they throw a stone something, terrorists, murder them, and they do in the
West Bank, et cetera, right? That they're going to somehow defeat Iron Dome and Israel's
nukes with rocks. This is an absurd, ludicrous thing. But all of our press repeats as if it's
Oh, no, no, the Palestinians are not under existential threat.
It's not a problem that their state does not exist.
Reality is not at all important.
The fact that the Palestinians are in concentration camps, that they're being starved,
that they've been brutally occupied by despotic of force for all of these years.
Not important and should never be discussed.
But poor Israel is under an existential threat at any point.
These Palestinians with their rocks and their fists are going to destroy all of Israel and kill all the Jews.
It's ridiculous.
It's not anywhere within a million miles of true.
It's the reverse of reality.
It's Orwellian to pretend that the Palestinians are the aggressors and Israelis are the victims.
So no, it's not within a billion miles of truth.
So I'm going to go to the last two things from me.
Let's see if that turns out to be true.
Civic Folly 86 wrote in from a member on Twitch.
Israel already occupies three quarters of Gaza.
If they take Gaza City, it's 100% occupied.
That's a great point.
Like they say Gaza City, but there's nothing else left.
So thank you for contributing to the show.
That's terrific.
And Rebel Dragon on t.com, a member on our website said,
Israel kept insisting it's not an occupation.
So what gives them the authority to even have a vote like this?
So yeah, you tell me, oh, no, we don't control Gaza.
Okay, now we're going to decide what we're going to do in Gaza.
And here, now we will tell the Palestinians what to do.
And then lastly, okay, as I kick it back over to Mark,
when Netanyahu and the other enormous liars that speak for the Israeli government now,
come out and go, oh, we're here to liberate the Palestinians.
It's just, it's like, it's grotesque in every way.
If, if Israel was a government that I liked or loved, I would be 10 times angrier than I am now.
Because then I would say, oh my God, not only are you slaughtering these Palestinians and doing it with American money and getting the whole world to hate you, but you're making this government and this country that I love, or let's put aside the government, this country that I love, as one of the most hated nations on earth with great justification.
And how did that help? How did that help Israel? To be absolutely loathed by the world as the entire world sees them starving babies to death.
How did that help Israel? Oh, we're going to get more land. Wow, okay, genocidal freak. I bet that keeps people safe in Israel.
Their only threat to their safety as they are the greatest, best defended nation on earth.
literally no one else has iron dough, only like eight, what, seven, eight other countries
have nukes there. And that's why when the IDF soldier earlier this week said, yeah, they told
us to stand down on October 7th. Oh, the guys who targeted Hezbollah and Hamas with pinpoint
position and the Iranian scientists, et cetera, with pinpoint position, they couldn't respond,
what, for seven hours on October 7th, or however long it took for the IDF to what, walk over there?
They didn't have cars, they didn't have ships, they didn't have anything.
Now, this is all total nonsense.
They have genocidal freaks running that government now.
And if you love that country, that should break your heart into a thousand pieces.
And you should be doing everything in your power to make sure that that guy is taken out of office.
Mark, last words.
Well, the stench of this humanitarian horror will be something that, as you said, will change the face of Israel.
And it's heartbreaking because there is so much great in history about Israel.
about the people who live in Israel, and this is a horror show, and you're right.
It's, as I say, the stench will overtake it, and it's indefensible.
I want to go back to what you just said, though.
I just want to make sure I'm clear on this, Jenk.
You're saying that the IDF deliberately stood down to allow October 7 to continue with the,
the rapes, murders, and the destruction of October.
I really, is that what you were saying?
Yeah, so I'm not saying it.
An IDF soldier said it earlier this week, okay?
So I'm reporting it. Do I know that he is absolutely right? I don't know. Have others,
have Israeli officials conceded that they had the information about October 7th, but decided
to dismiss it? They did, right? Yeah, that's absolutely true.
So you could say, you could put those things together and go, well, that paints an interesting
picture, especially given the enormous capability of Israeli intelligence, right?
But do I know it for sure? I do not know it for sure. Thank you for that clarification.
I mean, it's more than a little bit controversial, the notion that the, and then there's a
political price that's been paid and continues to be paid by Israelis toward their government
because of October 7th, because you guys did know about this. You heard about these plans,
and you didn't take them seriously. To Jenks point, you didn't think Hamas had it in them to actually
pull this off. So I always feel like the Middle East is, this is, look, this is horrifying, as I said,
It's humanitarian awfulness that I can't even get my head around.
And I always feel the Middle East is like a movie.
It depends when you walk in.
And boy, I walked in right now, and it is sadly, the Israelis are all bad on this one.
And the only thing I would say about the Israelis, as I said at the beginning, is from people I've talked to,
there are a huge chunk of Israelis who are not good with this.
They hate this and they don't want it to continue.
But this government has been hijacked by Netanyahu, and he's on a jihad, and it's a horror show.
All right.
Yeah, why don't we take our first break?
We'll be back.
All right, back on TYT, Jank, Mark and John with you guys, John's got more news.
Yes, let's go to some of the pushback happening here in the U.S. and around the world.
Since the very beginning of the war on Hamas, Israeli officials have insisted that they have no desire and no intention to fully occupy Gaza.
But just as long, Israel's critics have insisted that occupation and displacement were always the intention and the time would prove them right.
Israel is not hurting, and they've already proven that they are more than capable of not only defending themselves, but annihilating their enemies to the point of genocide.
If you start drawing American, you want to kill the MAGA movement? Let's have American troops go over there as an occupational force because this will, this will end in tears, sir.
Right there, you had snippets of three big figures in the right wing, whether here in the U.S. or abroad, speaking out against Israel's.
planned occupation of Gaza, as well as on the case of Marjorie Green, as she has been
recently talking about it explicitly as a genocide. And we're gonna jump into a little bit
more of what they had to say, starting with Pierce Morgan, who when he recorded that,
the official plan was going to be the full occupation. As of right now, they've at least for
this next step scaled it back, but obviously that's the direction that it's still moving in.
So with that said, let's jump into what Morgan had to say. But I think what we're seeing now is way
beyond any self-defense.
And I think the rhetoric that
Wajah had talked about from Smodrich
and these guys, very hard right members
of this cabinet, who somehow get dismissed
as not important, but are clearly,
hugely influential in this government,
that they are talking openly
about cleansing Palestinians from the
Gaza Strip. That is ethnic cleansing.
And if you now have tomorrow night
a decision by the Israeli government
to basically go over and occupy
the entirety of the Gaza
strip, expelling two million
Palestinians. That to me is an indefensible ethnic cleansing war crime. And of course, that still
looks like the plan. And they've been speaking very openly about it. Of course, everyone should
remember that Donald Trump sort of was talking before they were talking openly about it.
Donald Trump was talking about the great real estate opportunities and all of that.
And so with that in mind, let's just go to a little bit of Marjorie Green and what she had
say. Israel is not hurting and they've already proven that they are more than capable of not
only defending themselves, but annihilating their enemies to the point of genocide. And that's
what's happening in Gaza. And Matt, the reason why APAC is attacking me is because I dared to tell
the truth. Well, Matt, you and I are good friends. We serve together in Congress and you know
that I have taken zero money from APAC. If you're under the age of 40, you have no hope for the future.
We're $37 trillion in debt.
People can't afford to buy a house.
They can't afford rent.
They can't afford insurance.
They can't afford their bills.
And we have HB1 visas stealing all these American jobs.
And I'm sick and tired of fed up with it.
So if A PAC, who donates, by the way, to more Democrats than Republicans, as a matter
of fact, they're all four Democrats, but they do donate to Republicans as well.
But listen, if AAPC wants to come after me and accuse me of betraying me of betraying,
my American values.
APEC, you know what, you can bring it on.
I'm totally ready for this and this is a fight that I will fight and I will give it my all.
Now I don't know for sure if the debt figures that she cited there included the
four and a half trillion that she just voted for to give tax cuts to billionaires.
But other than that, I do agree with much of what she had to say there.
And we can eventually get to ban on.
But look, much of the elected Republicans do agree with
with Donald Trump, who will say and do in this case seemingly anything that Benjamin
and Yahoo tells him to do. But as was represented in those clips, there are some influencers
and some elected officials on the right that do disagree. Yeah, so should AIPAC be a foreign lobby?
Obviously, it's the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, okay, a Democratic majority
for Israel. So look, and this isn't just about Israel, it applies to everyone
of these type of organizations.
I remember growing up, there was a Congressman Steven Solars go around to all the Turkish
events and he was considered friend of Turkey, right?
And then I was talking to my friends who are families are originally from India.
And they're like, Steven Solars, he's also a friend of India, right?
So these guys go around and they collect money from folks who are American citizens, right?
But what is the intent of it?
It was that the Turks who gave money to Stephen Solars, was it so that he could defend
Norway or Freehold New Jersey?
No, it was to represent Turkey's interests, right, and India's interests.
And APAC, his job is to represent Israel's interests.
But APAC goes further.
I don't know if all the groups do it, and then we should look into all the groups.
We should be fair about it each of the countries, et cetera, right?
But APAC coordinates with Israeli government officials.
Then it's obviously a foreign lobby, obviously.
The only reason why it's not, because all the politicians
is take money from APEC, 400 out of the 435 members of Congress.
So those 400 go, no, I don't think it's a foreign lobby.
I think they should keep giving me a lot of money.
Okay, yeah, that's what I thought.
All right.
So that's the only reason we don't have that.
Marjorie Taylor Green, whether you like it or not, is 100% right about that, in my opinion.
On Bannon, he's right that Maga is splintering.
And if you say ground troops, they're going to be over the top furious.
That's not even negotiable.
I don't know why they keep saying they brought it back.
Now again, America's talking about, well, obviously some Israeli troops and some American troops.
No, not obviously.
And it's not going to fly.
So Mago will push back so hard on that.
I would be shocked if it happened, okay?
But what's not going to get enough pushback is endless money,
infinite money to Israel.
Oh, you'd like to do an occupation, you'd like to destroy Gaza City,
you'd like to take Gaza, you'd like to starve and the death.
No problem.
How large a check would you like us to write?
And that of course has to deal with APEC.
But guys, look at this.
Now you've got a real right wing rebellion against APEC, Israel, et cetera.
One that clearly did not exist in any significant way before.
I know some on our side are still denying it.
I find that unbelievable.
So wait, why are Steve Bannon and Marjorie Taylor Green and Matt Gates all talking about how Trump shouldn't back Israel
the way that he's doing if there's no rebellion from the base.
What is Marjorie Taylor Green and Matt Gates decided to become bleeding heart liberals overnight?
No, they're reacting to their voters to people and their audience going, no, we don't want
this. We don't want to spend the money anymore. And now you've got to give them a little bit of
credit on this. Now they're saying, no, this is, this is morally wrong.
And this is like one of the most encouraging things I've seen in the tiny silver lining in an otherwise very dark cloud where they're saying to their own voters and viewers, if you're a good Christian, if you're a good person, if you have a good heart, you shouldn't want to kill those Palestinian children.
I mean, in my lifetime, any American politician saying don't kill the Palestinians, I'd never seen it before.
The first guy who spoke up was Bernie Sanders in one of the presidential debates, and he treated Palestinians as if they were human and not just terrorists.
And I was like, blown away by it. We were covering it live. And I'm like, oh my God, what a hero. What an unbelievable hero.
And now people are the right wing and the most extreme right wing going, you know, they are human beings. They are children.
We shouldn't be paying to kill them, right? So that's a great development, although some maniacically think it's not happening.
And the New York Times, by the way, is saying to Netanyahu, no, we're not going to apologize for talking about you starving children because you did.
Israelists starve 96 children to death so far.
So look at the New York Times and Steve Bannon and Marjorie Taylor Green agreeing.
So it's amazing times, Mark.
Well, the truth is undeniable.
I mean, you just said it and you stated starkly.
And APEC is a lobby group and you're allowed to lobby and it's awful.
and I would have all of these lobbyists put them in the same basket and ship them out.
I just, as you know, and one of the things I respect about TYT is the work done to try to get money out of politics.
And Bob Menendez took money from Egypt and Qatar and Eric Adams, you know, made his own deal with the government of Turkey,
whatever it goes over and over and over again.
And these are despicable people.
We're talking about ban and Marjor Teter Green.
And we're going, wow, they have one marshal of truth and humanity in them.
And no one can disagree with what they've said.
I hope it's coming from the place of humanity, but it doesn't really matter.
They're on the right side of this.
Sadly, a lot of the support for what Jank is talking about.
The money and support of Israel comes from the evangelical right,
and that is what makes Maga Nation such an interesting negative way, plays,
because it's a coalition of this hard-right Christian neo-fascist crew
and these MAGA people who don't want to get involved in a lot of what's going on in the Middle East.
They're sort of isolationist, and somehow they have to broker a deal to get Trump the support he needs
and to get the right wing of America, the support it needs.
So I see strange bedfellows here, Jank and John, but certainly one of the supporters, and it's a big coalition,
is these neo-fascist Christian right supporters of Israel.
Yeah, I'm just going to add one quick thing or two quick things to what Mark said.
I agree 100% with everything Mark just said.
I'll add on Tom, Mike Huckabee was asked the other day about Palestinians being shot waiting in line for food.
And Mike Huckabee is one of those lunatic evangelical Christians who believe that Jesus needs to come back to Israel and murder everyone.
And so when they asked him about, he went full or well and he's like, there's no one being shot in Gaza.
There's no one dying in Gaza?
That's a new one.
That's a new record breaking lie and that he's part of that lunatic evangelical fringe, right?
They used to be a much larger crowd.
They're not as large anymore.
And the isolationists are beginning to take over the Republican Party that has some downsides.
But in this case, it's huge upside.
And speaking of Silver Linings, last one is.
So I think that Apex extreme behavior is going to,
reveal to a lot more Americans, oh, all the politicians are listening to just the donors.
A-PAC happens to be a donor, right?
Happens to be a special interest, but so is big pharma, big oil.
I've said it a million times, right?
All of those giant lobbies.
And I can literally see it going one by one, like light bulbs going over there.
That part's not literal.
As I'm reading on X and social media, et cetera, people going,
Oh yeah, maybe that's why we can't negotiate drug prices.
Of course, of course that's why, because the lobbyists of, and mainly as corporations,
this happens to be foreign governments, but of all these governments and all these
corporations totally own our Congress.
And if this tragedy leads to the American people waking up to that in mass,
well, it's something like I said, a silver lining might come out of it that's very valuable.
Yeah.
Well, why don't we take our second break?
We come back, we have some other news to cover.
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Okay, well, I think everybody knew as soon as they saw me on this panel,
since I've become a jock over the last year, that we were definitely going to turn at some point to sports news.
So let's do that now.
We can jump into this.
Over the past few weeks, multiple teams in the WNBA have been hit with thrown dildos being thrown
onto the court by people in the crowd. And as terrible as that is, regardless of the motivation,
and we can speculate, there's actually a way that it can be much worse because it involves
an even worse group of people than just misogynists or professional trolls. Before we jump
to that, I just want to say I was actually at that game when that happened and when it became
became clear that security had not found the person, I was overcome with a desire to go find
them myself. I was so overcome with rage. It makes me so angry. And I understand that not
everyone is responding in that way. Now some players and some coaches are speaking out very
forcefully against this. In that particular case, although it's difficult to target a particular
player when you're throwing it from the crowd, it seemed as if the thrower was targeting Sophie Cunningham
of the Indiana fever. Now, she had just the day before tweeted asking people to stop doing that.
And so if she was targeted for that reason, then that's not very cool. Now, some players are
sort of making light of it. She kind of joked around after it. But there is concern that if this
were to hit someone or they were to trip or whatever, that this could actually injure someone.
And obviously, it's not a good look when it's a group of professional female athletes and
people are throwing sex toys at them. But that said, it can get worse.
And we're gonna describe how it's pretty widespread at this point. As of August 7th,
there had been at least six games where this had happened. It happened last night in a game
too. I don't know if that actually includes that. And a cryptocurrency group has now
entered the story to claim responsibility for some of these pranks because betting sites and
cryptocurrency sites are starting to try to monetize this. And of course along the way,
encouraging more people to do it. And so a group of crypto enthusiasts have launched green
dildo coin, a meme coin, the first stupid meme coin actually. And so it's sad to see it go in that
direction. They said that they were protesting a toxic environment in the crypto world. I don't know
what that is supposed to mean. But in any event, there are bets going on as to when this will
happen, what color the dildo will be. And of course all of this is very much against the rules.
People have been caught that have done this, they've been arrested, others are being banned
from arenas or from WNBA events. And so for some, including some of the people doing the
throwing, they're saying that it's not misogyny, they're just trying to generate attention,
which I'm not sure if that's better or worse. I personally think that our world could use less
of people thinking that reality is just for them to do things in to generate attention.
Stop doing street interviews, stop doing pranks on unsuspecting people.
Just leave people alone when they're out in the world would be my advice.
But anyway, we have more on this.
And actually, maybe even a grosser turn where Don Trump Jr. gets into the story.
But, Jank, what do you make of this?
Yeah.
So this is one of the ailments of the attention economy.
So now everybody is doing anything and everything to get attention.
And people have actually now realize and talk about their need to capture attention.
And when the people who organize this were interviewed, they openly talk about that.
They said what since a lot of people were talking about the WNBA, what we wanted to do was, quote, intercept their attention.
Okay.
So now that's going to have a huge number of giant problems in the country that in a minute,
that I'm gonna get to in a minute, okay?
But there's also one other factor here, which is young males.
I know a thing or two about this because I was once a young male.
And by the way, I too was guilty.
And so I, there was a lot of things that I thought were funny back then that now as I look at
it after I've matured after many, many decades.
I look back and go, oh my God, I can't believe I did that.
Oh, that's crazy, right?
And yes, I get it as a 15 year old boy or sometimes 25, right?
They're like, oh, ha ha, ha, so funny, you throw Dilda at the girls playing basketball.
And but for the rest of us, like not being in that mindset, it's a little bit horrifying.
But they don't get it.
They think it's like the funniest thing in the world, right?
But you're demeaning those people by doing that.
And it's not an accident that you threw at a WNBA game and not at an NBA game, right?
And so it's, it's, you get stuck in this awful position of being a grown up telling younger people, can you please grow up a little bit?
Like it's not that, like I don't want to take the joy out of life, I don't want you to stop joking around.
I'm the last guy to say that, right?
But there's a line, guys, and demeaning women like this when they're actually at
their jobs is way past that line.
It's a million miles past that line, even if they can't see it.
But back to the overall phenomenon, that's what I'm more worried about.
So is here, you know, John's gonna get to it, but I'll read it right now.
I wanna read you this thing that gives you the whole essence of it.
I'm skipping forward a little bit, Graphic 9.
According to a value tracker on Forbes, the price of the coin, now I'm skipping ahead to this
coin that they are trying to promote, right?
says, which represents a bold movement they claim, a bold movement in internet culture,
giving holders of voice in a fun, fearless, and fast-growing community, that's their quote,
has spiked by approximately 300% in the past week. According to Google Trends, there's been a
3,700% increase in U.S. search interest on green dildo since July 29. And so those numbers
are stark and important because you don't understand the story unless you know why they're
doing it. And that's why they're doing it. Because it works. They did get a huge spike in
internet interest and searches. And when they go to search it, unfortunately, they see this coin
that, again, we're going to tell you more about that in a sec. And then the price of the coin
goes up. So they were rewarded. And as long as they're going to keep getting rewarded, they're
going to keep on doing it. So we're all in a lot of trouble here because
this attention economy is rewarding the worst kind of behavior.
Yeah.
That's a terrific breakdown, very little to add.
Really, that attention economy, that there's an economic component to,
and that of course there's a humiliation of women in the workplace.
And I would say if you want to see a humiliation of women in the workplace,
just go into any other workplace because women are, you know,
I don't mean to be politically correct, but it really is the case that women are facing,
facing serious issues at work still and have been for decades. So this is just another chapter.
But I love that you mentioned the attention economy and that there's a financial component as
well. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, they're saying again, as Jank had said, you know, Lieutenant Deldo Raine.
I'm sure that's his real name is saying that, yeah, they want to intercept the attention.
And they wanted to really make memes funny again. Just that's like, you don't you, you don't
need to be anywhere near comedy, if that's a sentence that you're saying.
And so I would briefly say, so this sort of thing has happened before.
This is not the first time that people have thrown things like dildos.
So I don't, I think it was the bills years ago or whatever.
Like it does happen.
And so some people will say, well then that's just what it is.
And again, the individual motivations of a person doing this, I can't say for sure that
it's like screw these women or whatever we're gonna throw this.
So a lot of them are just as Jenks said, just trolls or don't understand it.
But like, even if you're literally doing the same thing, throwing a dildo at athletes,
it isn't the same thing because of the context.
you know, the bills or whatever, might have a bad season. But NFL players, it's not that like
90% of what people say about them in the media has been negative or mocking for literally years,
okay? That's a context, okay? Let alone the larger issues of how America generally treats women.
And in particular recently, as the WNBA has been riding over the last year and a half,
a wave of renewed interest, and they're getting much higher ratings and much more tickets being
sold and there's a lot of attention. There has been this counter reaction from right wing media
that does not like to see this. And so when recently during the W&B All-Star game, the players
were wearing shirts that said pay us what you owe us, right? Like Matt Walsh and all of them
were making videos about them. In that case, you should be paying the league because you're
worth nothing. And so you need to understand that context that there are some people that
aren't interested in whatever sports, let alone women's sports. And then there are people who have a
vested culture or interest in making sure that it doesn't get popular.
They don't want it to be respected, they like that it's a target of mockery.
And of course, ironically, many of these people are the same people that have been using
their supposed concern for women athletes and women's sports as a thinly veiled excuse for
rabid transphobia.
And so that is context, that unfortunately is going to be lost on the sort of people that
smuggle a dildo into crypto.com arena and then chuck it at a player or whatever, but
you should understand it. And it's not front of mind for some people trying to have fun with
memes on this like Don Jr. who posted this on Instagram of Donald Trump on the roof
of the White House throwing a dildo down at players playing. He did that about his dad. And of course
the context for that is his dad has been accused of sexual harassment and sexual assault by literally
dozens of women. He's, of course, tied to Jeffrey Epstein as all this is going on.
But yeah, he should be throwing dildos down at those women just trying to do their job.
Strange family. Yeah, I have a lot of thoughts on context, too. First on the White House,
this is what we devolved to, where the president's son does a mean of the president
throwing a dildo at women playing basketball. And that's not a big story. Like, yeah, it's
covered, but my God, if this had happened pre-Trump, it would have been, we'd still be talking
about it. I mean, Jimmy Carter's brother had too much to drink one night or something,
and that's still like a story people talk about, right? Like, imagine if Jimmy Carter's brother
was thrown dildos of women, right? Or doing memes like that. So like the debasement of the
White House, I mean, remember when they used to talk about how Bill Clinton has debased the White
House. All right, well, I hope we're not still having that conversation. Okay, that conversation
has not come to a conclusion. But also, yes, when your dad's been accused of sexual harassment
by dozen women and can, and a jury of his peers said that he was guilty of sexually abusing
a woman, and he's on tape bragging about how he just grabs their genitalia without permission.
Having him throw dildos at them is not the great, is not a great look. But unfortunately,
there's a portion of their base that finds that kind of demeaning behavior to be awesome.
And that's why I don't ever vote with them.
Like they don't understand how disqualifying that is.
Like you, oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm for America.
Are you? Because you're not for equality.
You're not for treating all of us the same, right?
So again, if you're a 12 year old kid, I understand you think it's funny.
But I would hope the rest of us have matured a little bit past that.
Now, one other component about the financial end of it, then some betting websites started
putting up, oh, what color will the next dildo be?
Which is so stupid, but I don't, I guess they wanted to attract attention.
They thought the marketing was worth it, because people then looked at those betting websites.
They planned it, and then they did it, they put a lot of money, and they now brag about
it.
They put money on which color would be, then they picked the color, and then they themselves threw
it on to make money. So you see how the attention economy grows and grows and grows and
grows and how people are making money from all sorts of things that as a society we
don't really want them doing but are now being financially rewarded, right? And finally
on the context of throwing things. Look, if my daughter's playing in some sort of
sport or anything else and you throw something like that at her, we're gonna have a
We're gonna have a problem, okay?
So they're also creating a situation where people are going to want to take things into
their own hands.
I mean, what was John's initial reaction?
He wanted to go find a guy, right?
I wanted to throw him onto the court.
Right, and so this is not healthy for society when we start looking for each other to get even,
right?
And I would know a thing or two by getting thrown at us in context.
So when I played football in at Espronsoc High School in New Jersey, they threw bagels
at us for in the opposing stands.
Why?
Because East Brunswick was heavily Jewish town.
Oh my God.
So now if you say, hey, you know what, what's the big deal?
Maybe they were done with their bagels and they throw them and you don't know that it's a Jewish
town, you think it's not a big deal.
But when you find out it's, you know, known as a Jewish town and they're throwing bagels at you,
That context matters, okay?
And so that's why the context here matters as well.
Mark, last words.
Was anybody, Jank, in Brundrick, actually saying, well, maybe they were just done with their bagels and they decided to throw them on the field?
No, nobody thought that.
Okay, I just want clarification on that.
No, I sign on to everything you've just said.
It's another brand of lunacy.
And as you suggested, the degradation of the White House and of public service and politics in Washington,
the spillover effect and how this all comes together with social media and the meme coin and
as I say an economically incentivized process. It's crazy. That meets a sort of a juvenile
kind of prankster and you've really got this. It all crashes together. It's a sign of the
times. Hate to say it, but it's a really appropriate phrase in this case. Yep. All right, guys,
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