The Young Turks - Green Gets Censured

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. All right. Welcome to the Young Turks, Jake Uyuk, Sharon Reed with you guys. Sharon's all over Rebel headquarters. She does a great job there. Make sure you check her out. We'll begin with the fallout from this presidential address to joint Congress, as as a Jenk mentioned. Congressman Al Green officially censured by the House for interrupting Donald Trump's address to Congress, but instead of standing for his formal rebuke, he turned his
Starting point is 00:01:07 back on Speaker Mike Johnson, and he and his fellow Democrats began singing, We Shall Overcome. Will Representative Green present himself to the will? By its adoption of House Resolution 189, the House has resolved that Representative Al Green be censured, that Representative Al Green forthwith present himself in the well of the House of Representatives for the pronouncement of censure, and that Representative Al Green be censured with public reading of this resolution by the Speaker. Keep in my house. The House had come to order.
Starting point is 00:02:05 The House had come to order. Very awkward there. Beautiful voices, though. But as a Speaker of the House kept hitting the gavel and then whispering off to the side. But here's the final vote. It was 216 to 207. I can show you that. Ten Democrats joining Republicans.
Starting point is 00:02:24 to censure green. Those Democrats were Representative Don Davis, North Carolina, Marie Glucon Camp, Perez, Washington, Jared Golden, Maine, Henry Quayar, Texas, Mary Potola, Alaska, Eric Sorenson, Illinois, Edira Caraveo, Colorado, Vicente, Gonzales, Texas, Ed Case, Hawaii, and Wiley Nicol, North Carolina. So what do you make of this? And a song choice, too.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I mean, obviously this was planned, but your initial thoughts. Yeah, I have a lot of thoughts on a couple different issues here. I'm curious what you think, too, Sharon. On the censure, I always found censors to be enormously irrelevant. Ooh, I've been censured. And if I was in Congress, I'd probably get censured dozens of times. I'd be like, yeah, my colleague over there, totally corrupt. Democratic colleague, Republican colleague, both are corrupt.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Look at how much money they're taking from the health insurance industry to screw over the voters. Censure, censure, censure, censure me, what are you going to do? So what? Who cares? It has no teeth. It doesn't mean anything. But it's interesting to see someone getting censured for something other than criticizing Israel. So that's a nice twist.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I'd like to think that I'm consistent on all of these. So I remember, I'm old enough to remember when the Democrats were outraged, that Joe Wilson shouted out you lied to President Obama. So if we were outraged at that, why are we okay with Al Green doing this? okay fine like again I don't care about the disruption too much what I care about is is it productive or is it ineffective or is a counterproductive and Sharon I'm a little word that it was counterproductive it because you couldn't hear what he was saying and so what it looked like is it made it seem like the Democrats were being rude to Trump when if you listen to Trump speech it was one of the most partisan rude if you want to use that word you know aggressive
Starting point is 00:04:20 hostile state of, I know it's technically not a state of the union, but joint addresses I've ever seen in my life, but nobody's talking about what a jerk Trump was. They're talking about Al Green. So I just, I didn't love it, but I'm curious what you thought.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Well, yeah, and I'm trying to understand if you didn't, you felt like they should have orchestrated it better or not done it at all because it stole the narrative away from Donald Trump and his divisive speech, plans, announcements. I, here's a thing, did I love it? No, but here's what I like about Congressman Green. He did something, you know? He decided to stand on principle, talk about Medicaid. Again, the message was perhaps lost, but he did something.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Right now, and I think the polls show it, people are saying, what is your plan to deal with Trump Democrats? And some people say they don't have one other say it's inadequate. It just seems silly to go about life as if things are normal. We know politics has always been corrupt. You mentioned, yeah, you'd get censured a lot. I don't think it comes with a fine, no, so who cares? You're right. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:05:28 But I do think that you have to do something. And just to say, oh, well, I'll just, you know, sit there and be polite. And then I'll vote against this guy. If you're a Democrat, I think it's just pathetic. At this point, I don't even know if I care what they stand for. Just stand for something and let us know about it. about it but um you know I hear you yeah so I it's a great question on what they should do instead because so often people criticize but they're not
Starting point is 00:05:57 constructive about it and if we're saying that he's or if I'm saying that he's was a little bit counterproductive in the way that he did it then it's incumbent upon me to tell you the right way to do it which I'm gonna get to in one second but I do agree with you on two fronts share one yeah I thought the same thing you did which is like ah well I don't want to put words in your mouth about the first part like I thought in the beginning this isn't going to play well I can't hear him
Starting point is 00:06:22 at least if he was saying something that we could hear and he objected at the time when Donald Trump was talking about it would make a little bit more sense but we come guns blazing out in the beginning and he caused a disturbance then you look like the bad guy's right okay okay but then
Starting point is 00:06:38 I did think the same thing you did which was on the other end at least he's doing something right so give him points for that and then when asked why he did He said it's because they're going to do massive cuts to Medicaid. Okay, that part is good. And drawing attention to that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I just wish there was a more productive way. So what is the more productive way, in my opinion? So this is the problem with the Democrats. And I look to what degree Al Green was involved in the decision making here, I don't know. And probably not that much, to be fair to him. But the correct way to handle that, in my opinion, was the Democratic response. But not like the very boring standard one, Slotnick did. You know, put Al Green in there to do the Democratic response.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Put Jasmine Crockett in, put AOC in, put so, or put Pat Ryan, somebody aggressive, somebody to make the case. And so what are the different cases that I would make? So, number one, if you oppose them on everything, including things that are popular, that's not, that doesn't play that well. So, first of all, unlike waste, fraud and abuse, I would say what I think, which is, I think there is terrible waste fraud and abuse in the government. That's why the Pentagon can't pass an audit.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I think defense contractors have been robbing us blind. But pause, defend Democrats would never say that. Well, that's the problem. You actually don't care about the corruption. So if you cared about the corruption and said, but yes, but why are we doing a hatchet when we should be doing a scalpel? Why are you cutting blindly without even knowing what the hell you're cutting? Oh, if they had done that, which is literally exactly what I've said on the show
Starting point is 00:08:09 and we'll show that to you later in the program, when today Trump comes out and says we should use a scalpel instead of a hatchet, then they would have gotten credit for that but they didn't play it that way now on Medicaid you see that's where you could do theatrics and you could do it in your democratic response and you could do it in a way that'll draw attention so you know you can say on Medicaid look there put in into this committee where it looks like they're gonna cut about 800 billion dollars from Medicaid so which one is it Donald Trump are you gonna protect Medicaid like you said or are
Starting point is 00:08:45 are you a goddamn liar and you're going to cut Medicaid to help your goddamn donors? Again, the Democrats would never do that. And a lot of people would be outraged by the use of the word, goddamn. But then you would have drawn a lot of attention to, wait, are they cutting Medicaid by $800 billion? And are they doing that just so they could pass a $4.5 trillion tax cut? So that would have, as she might have gotten censured for that. Good, fine, who cares? But at least then we've drawn attention to the $800 billion they're cutting for Medicaid
Starting point is 00:09:14 to give to the very richest people in the country. What do you think, Sharon? I agree with you. I think the Democrats have a marketing problem, a messaging problem, a platform problem. It's just not breaking through and a leadership problem, because as you said, I don't know if Al Green was involved in this, but, you know, Hakeem Jeffries voted to censure him. So I suspect he was told what to do and just said, no, I'm not going to do it that way. But it just, it fell flat and, you know, we'll get to Senator Federman's comments in a
Starting point is 00:09:44 in a minute, but it just seems like it bolstered Trump in a way that is anti-reality. It really felt anti-reality. House Republicans have- Hold on one second, Sharon. No, go ahead. Yeah, sorry, I don't think Hakeem Jeffries voted to censure Allgreen. Okay. He voted on the other side, if I'm not mistaken. We just read the 10 names that censored him.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Just wanted to be clear. I'm no fan of Akeem Jeffrey. No, no, no, no, no. You're right. Actually, my Republican friend called me and said that. I should have known to fact-check it. But the House Republicans have turned censure votes into a political. weapon. As Jenk mentioned, though, at what cost. Last year, they punished Jamal Bowman for triggering a
Starting point is 00:10:20 capital fire alarm, Rashida Talib, for her stance on Israel and Palestine. Green is not the first member to get sanctioned for a joint session outburst back in 2009, we can tell you. Republican Joe Wilson, as Jenk referred to, shouted, you lie. Then President Obama during a speech was formerly reprimanded, But there is a difference because in that instance, Wilson faced a simple reprimand. That's the lowest form of discipline, if you will. Green got the much harsher punishment of censure. And unlike Green, Wilson didn't turn his back when he got his rebuke. He apologized.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And then he promptly raised about $2 million, a little more than that, off of this. Of course, Trump wasted no time using the moment to attack every single Democrat, even though the Democrats are disjointed, divided. He's lumped them all together over the incident with Green. He posted this to truth social. Republicans should utilize the footage provided on the total disrespect they showed to all of those that were honored that night, including young ladies who were killed by illegal migrants, people with terminal cancer. They didn't even have the common courtesy to stand, smile, or applaud.
Starting point is 00:11:33 This could be on analyzing the full tape of this historic event, your full campaign to victory. In other words, Republicans can take one. what happened last night and win any race in the country. So he's, you know, they're strategists in chief. So there's a larger debate, though, and you brought it up, and I think you spoke to it just perfect, Jank, is doing something like this better than doing nothing or not showing up like AOC and doing something alternative.
Starting point is 00:12:05 He stood up, he said no, he made a scene, he made it clear where he stood. But as we mentioned, so did Senator. Fetterman, who took issue with the outburst calling it unhinged and petulant. I don't know if he's ever said anything so harsh about Donald Trump, but you can see his posting on X there, the senator, who basically said, look, this is something that makes Trump look better and is lost general sentiments on the intention. So the question, did Algarine's protests help?
Starting point is 00:12:39 that it's just playing to Trump's hands. Is it necessary to fight fascism? And I know you kind of addressed it already what you should do with the Democratic response, but do Democrats at least need to fight back and say, well, no, no one was, you know, disrespecting families of, you know, people who were crime victims, murdered,
Starting point is 00:13:00 the 13-year-old with cancer, a tender moment there. I mean, should they respond at all or just move on from this? Yeah. No, no, they should always respond. And so, like, it's so frustrating because when they're applauding the 13-year-old with cancer, stand up because you're going to look terrible if you don't.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And besides, it's the right thing to do because you're not standing up for Trump. You're standing up for DJ, that 13-year-old boy, right? But it is incumbent upon you to emphasize afterwards. Like, for example, here's another suggestion. So they have Democratic response. That's one way of, you know, countering what Trump said. but you all are congressmen and senators you could just go on television trust me CNN will have you MSNBC will have you I mean I if you dared you could go on
Starting point is 00:13:50 podcasts but I know you don't dare unless you've got written agreement ahead of time that you'll never be criticized or challenged but but you could go on all those shows and go why they cut billions from cancer research if they care about DJ and I care about DJ that's why I applauded DJ but why did they cut cancer research Why did they cut billions from cancer research? And right now, all we should be talking about, like pick one or two topics, Medicaid, cutting cancer research, and have an organized strategy. They're so pathetic.
Starting point is 00:14:22 So to your point about Hakeem's earlier, what happened was he said he gives no official recommendation. So if the leader of your party says vote one way, that has a lot of weight and people are afraid to go against the leader and they get scored against that, et cetera, here he let them vote any way they like he didn't vote for censure but he allowed the others to okay now you can and by the way I'm not sure that I even disagree with that but then Hakeem please for God's sake followed up by send three Congress people on TV send eight congresspeople on TV in the podcast and say why did they
Starting point is 00:14:55 cut cancer why did they cut cancer research what is wrong with them do they hate DJ by the way if you asked do they hate DJ is that why they cut cancer research that would get a lot of press but they can't think of the simple things so that's what's so frustrating about the democrats uh yeah and we'll get into the Hamas negotiations but let's take a quick break first all right back all right back On TYT, Jane and sharing with you guys, more news. Yeah, this next one got a lot of attention today, so let's get into this. And this is just breaking.
Starting point is 00:15:49 It looks like the administration is directly negotiating with Hamas. Do you like that or you don't like that? How do you feel? I'm okay with it if it gets. I don't mind what Trump does because I trust Trump. But Trump sent out a tweet today, released the hostages or you will be destroyed. and that's the kind of leadership we need. So I trust Trump.
Starting point is 00:16:11 As long as he's in the room, I'm okay. That's simple, apparently. Last night, Senator Lindsey Graham reacted live to a surprising report from Axios, which stated that the Trump administration has been holding one-on-one negotiations with Hamas. That makes them the first administration ever to do that. Jen, I guess the question is, do you think Graham would have had the same reaction? say, I don't know, the Democratic administration, Obama, Biden would have legitimized Hamas negotiated directly with them?
Starting point is 00:16:47 That's such a great question. Of course not. He would have said that, oh, yeah, Obama is with the radical Islamists. He loved the terrorists anyway. That's why he went to hug and kiss Hamas. So the hypocrisy of politicians knows no bounds. So at the same time, I agree with negotiating directly with Hamas. So I've been enormously consistent about this as people flip-flop all over the place based
Starting point is 00:17:17 on whoever's president. We should negotiate with our enemies because that's how you get to peace. Negotiating with your friends doesn't do you any good, any good at all. And so should we negotiate directly with the Russians on Ukraine? Yes. Hamas on Israel, yes. we have negotiated directly with Iran when Dick Cheney said, we don't negotiate with evil. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Was Trump wrong to negotiate directly with the Taliban? No, you negotiate with your enemies. So, but you're absolutely right, Sharon. Lindsay Graham would have been epiplectic, and he would have called Democrats every kind of terrorist for negotiating directly with Hamas if it was anyone but his new beloved Trump. Yeah, you trust the guy. knows the guy he trusted. Okay, it's fine. White House Press Secretary Levitt has confirmed the negotiations with Hamas.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Here's the statement. Trump believes it is the right thing for the American people and added there are American lives on the line. Axios again there. She also said that Israel had been consulted on the negotiations, but it doesn't seem like the Israeli government was very happy about it. Here's that statement. The Israeli Prime Minister's office said during talks with the U.S. Israel expressed its opinion about the issue of direct talks with Hamas. So I don't know if you'd call that a consultation. They don't want it. Normally, the United States does not directly negotiate
Starting point is 00:18:46 with entities that it has deemed as terrorist groups, which is what Hamas was designated as in 1997. So this marks a big change for U.S. policy, just like that. Trump administration sent Adam Boyler, who is serving as the U.S. presidential envoy for hostage affairs to meet with Hamas. There are 59 hostages, hostages, rather, still in Gaza, and according to the IDF 35 of those are dead. 22 hostages believed to be still alive, including one American status of the other two hostages. That is not clear. While the Trump administration negotiates one-on-one with Hamas in private, Trump himself is sending them threats via his favorite social media
Starting point is 00:19:33 in public. He wrote this on Truth Social yesterday. Shalom Hamas means hello and goodbye. You can choose. Release all the hostages now, not later, immediately return all of the dead bodies of the people you murdered or it's over for you. Only sick and twisted people keep bodies
Starting point is 00:19:53 and you are sick and twisted. I am sending Israel everything it needs to finish the job. Not a single Hamas member will be safe if you don't do as I say. I have just met with your former hostages whose lives you have destroyed. This is your last warning. The leadership now is the time to leave Gaza while you still have a chance. Also to the people of Gaza, beautiful future awaits, but not if you hold hostages. If you do, you are dead.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Make a smart decision. Release the hostages now or there will. be held to pay later. So a statement from the U.S. President, we should remind you what Trump's beautiful future looks like. Here's an AI video. He reposted recently. is finally here.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Trump Gaza shining bright. Golden future, a brand new light. Feast and dance the deal is done. Trump Gaza number one. Trump Gaza, shining bright. Golden future, a brand new light. Feast and dance, the deal is done. Trump Gaza, number one.
Starting point is 00:21:19 So, janky's all over the place here. Change, major change in U.S. policy, negotiating with, you know, terrorist organizations. the video, the threats on truth, social. How does this play out? Like, if you had your crystal ball. Yeah. So there's a silver lining in this story.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That's a 10% of a little bit of hope that I'm going to get back to. But 90% is awful. So, first of all, as we discussed, that video is disgusting. And a lot of people on the right wing even thought it was disgusting. A lot of people on the right wing are tired of coutowing to Israel. And Trump and all of his huffing and puffing seems to do that around every corner. And this whole thing, I'm going to bring hell to Gaza. Too late.
Starting point is 00:22:05 It's already hell. And so what are you going to murder more innocent Palestinians? Wow, that really seems anti-war. And so I think his threats are stupid. I think they're counterproductive. I don't think they're helpful. You want to end the war? Super easy.
Starting point is 00:22:21 This one is the easiest one in the world. Say, Israel. End it right now. Otherwise, we're not going to give you a single more dollar. That's it. It ends tomorrow. Everybody knows that. But Trump, like every other U.S. politician, is almost all in Israel's pocket. So, like we're having nonsense conversations. Israel owns us. So, okay, although again, I'm going to get to the silver lining. In terms of what Israel's doing now, they're going more aggressively into the West Bank and starting to kill more Palestinians there. steal more land of the west bank they're looking to occupy gaza and they've sent their finance minister smotrich
Starting point is 00:23:02 he's coming here to demand more money from the american taxpayers pay up everybody israel's your special ally you will not give us more money we haven't murdered enough palestinians eight hundred babies dead fourteen thousand five hundred children dead overall but apparently not enough uh... murdered children and babies
Starting point is 00:23:22 uh... so now uh... where's the silver line Huh. He didn't get Israel's permission before talking to Hamas. That almost never happens with an American president. The American president first checks with his boss, Netanyahu, and then does whatever he's ordered to do. And that has been Trump on steroids. He's like, oh, yeah, annihilate Gaza. I'll help you annihilate it. You know, going to the West Bank. No holds barred.
Starting point is 00:23:51 He's worse than Biden in all of those regards, right? And it seemed like, I knew he'd be worse, I said it before the election, but that is a hell of a bar to clear, because that is a super high bar, because Biden was genocidal towards the Palestinians, and Trump has cleared that bark, I guess, congratulations. But the silver lining is, again, like I said, he didn't ask for permission to talk to Hamas. That's the first time that's happened in, what, 40, 50 years in America where an American politician has not begged for permission from the Israeli prime minister before.
Starting point is 00:24:24 doing anything related to Israel. Okay, I guess I'll take it. I mean, it's this tiny little thing, but if his poll numbers continue to slide on this and his base continues to hate it, maybe he'll start finding a spine to stand up to Netanyahu. But don't count on it. It is like at this stage, super unlikely, MAGA has to get a lot, his own base has to get a lot more upset. His polling numbers have to go way more down before. he even begins to consider crossing his boss.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Let me ask you. Do you give Trump credit for doing some calculated move here by not asking Israel? Do you think it's just another, he just doesn't even know any better? No, I think this one, whoever made the decision, and it seems, it's fair to say it's Trump, he seemed to have sidelined Steve Whitkoff, who's normally handling negotiations for us. So it seems pretty purposeful. And so, and there's talk of Rubio being sidelined, and Rubio is very much in Israel's pocket. He's a neocon, serves the Edelson family and APEC loyally.
Starting point is 00:25:34 So those are interesting developments. So they clearly did it on purpose here and not asking for permission. And so, you know, whenever we always say the fish rots from the head down, so as I give Trump a world of discredit for how he has handled this so far on criticism. So in this case, we should be consistent and say, assume that Trump ordered that. And so I hope. But any way that it happened, that is more than Biden would have done.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Biden would never, ever do anything without Israel's permission. And Biden would have never negotiated directly with Hamas. So let's be honest about that. Well, you mentioned if Israel's demanding more money, we may have some extra money laying around since we're not going to be at least giving Ukraine as much or holding them hostage over it. Let's watch this one. TPS for the Ukrainians who live here in the U.S. What about it?
Starting point is 00:26:51 Are you considering revoking the TPS status for the more than 200,000 Ukrainians who live here in English? Oh, what are you saying? Yeah, the Ukrainians that are here in the U.S. They're under a TPS status. On GPS? TPS, temporary. Oh, I thought you said GPS. Are you considering that for the Ukraine?
Starting point is 00:27:11 Well, we're not looking to hurt anybody. We're certainly not looking to hurt them. More than we did yesterday would complete the thought. So not only freezing money, withholding intelligence, but now, earlier today, Reuters reported that the Trump administration is moving forward with its plan to roll out mass deportations by taking aim at another Biden-era migration program that gave temporary legal status to refugees, including those who fled war-torn Ukraine. So now before we get into the details, Jenk, your initial. thoughts here, I hear a lot of people saying, well, he just wants to be cruel, shock value, distraction, whatever it is. What are your thoughts? Yeah, so the nuance came into the story throughout the day. So my initial reaction, Sharon, was, I was outraged. And yeah, I thought
Starting point is 00:28:06 it was super cruel. So I thought in the beginning, you had your feelings hurt because you and Zelensky fought, and now you're going to take it out on these poor people, 240,000 people sent it back in the middle of a war. But as we found out throughout the day, apparently this was something that they were already planning to do. So you'll give us the details, but the White House denies it, and then the nuance seems to be that, no, they were, according to Reuters, they were going to do it, but it was before the Zelensky blow up, and it was part of a, like, deporting 1.8 million people, and they
Starting point is 00:28:43 among them. Got it. Well, there's this from a senior Trump official, three people familiar with the matter. Donald Trump is allegedly planning to revoke the legal status for roughly 240,000 Ukrainians. The planned rollback of protections for Ukrainians was underway before Trump publicly feuded with Ukrainian President Zelensky last week. It is part of a broader Trump administration effort to strip legal status for more than
Starting point is 00:29:09 1.8 million migrants, as Jenks said, allowed to enter the U.S. U.S. under temporary humanitarian parole programs launched under the Biden administration, according to the sources. So last month, CBS News reported U.S. citizenship and immigration services had an agency-wide administrative pause, ordered on all pending benefit requests filed by migrants already allowed into the U.S. under certain Biden administration programs. They include a policy called uniting for Ukraine set up to offer a safe haven to those fleeing the Russian invasion of Ukraine, roughly 240,000 Ukrainians with American sponsors arrived in the
Starting point is 00:29:47 U.S. under the process before President Trump took office. Another effective program known as CHNV allowed 530,000 Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguan, Venezuelans, sponsored by American citizens to enter the U.S. Now, additionally, these programs covered more than 70,000 Afghans who were escaping the Taliban because those allowed into the U.S. under these programs were only given temporary work permits and deportation protections that typically last for two years. Many of them apply for other immigration benefits. And those benefits include a program known as temporary protected status for migrants from crisis-stricken countries like 80 Ukraine, Venezuela, asylum, which allows those fleeing persecution
Starting point is 00:30:33 to gain a permanent safe haven in the U.S. But under the internal USCIS directive, officials will no longer be able to process any applications for these programs or any other benefit if the requests were filed by migrants who arrived in the U.S. under the targeted Biden administration policies. So this means that families who came to the U.S. under Biden protected programs could not even apply for temporary protected status. So, you know, we heard a lot, as we pulled out of Afghanistan, jank, of, you know, translators and other people desperate, you know, people who, you know, people who, served the United States and now we're depending on us that things were moving too slowly
Starting point is 00:31:17 for them. This is a whole new ball game. Not a single application is to be processed, not even for these hardship, danger filings. What say you? Yeah. So even if it wasn't because of the Zelensky blow up, okay, and that would have made it a little bit worse just because that means that he just, his temper and his ego was bruise and he's taking it out on innocent people. Okay, so that wasn't the case. It turns out they were planning to be this cruel already. So it's the same result, and hence it's not that much better. And so, like we told Cubans and Venezuelans, et cetera, that they could come here because they're escaping from a communist or social country, et cetera, right?
Starting point is 00:32:03 Now we're saying, just kidding. If you risk your life to get here, just kidding. And by the way, Americans promises don't mean anything. You know, you give us up your nukes. We promise to protect you. Well, maybe, maybe not. You, you know, you come here, risk your life to come here and we're going to give your shelter. Well, until we decide not to. And then we're going to send you. Are we sending him back? Are we going to really send him back to Cuba? We're going to really send him back to Ukraine? No. That's, look, you saw Trump do it today with pulling Elon Moss back. We'll talk more about it later in the show. when he does stupid stuff and it gets on popular he pulls it back go go ahead send
Starting point is 00:32:47 Ukrainians back everybody will hate you for I don't want you to do it because that those people are not props they're actually human beings and I don't want him getting hurt right but if he were to actually start sending people back in the way that he's describing here people would say look we told you to get rid of undocumented criminals felons right we didn't tell you to do this to these poor people so it'll be deeply deeply unpopular and it'll be fast to according to reuters migrants who are stripped of their parole status can face fast track deportation proceedings those who per whose parole classification is revoked and who lack another immigration status would become ineligible to work
Starting point is 00:33:29 in the united states lawfully they would also receive notices to appear in immigration court first step in the deportation process according to the internal documents and we should tell you following the release of the report the white house has denied as jenck mentioned the reuters report specifically um you see the uh statement there from the press secretary levitt this is more fake news from roiders based on anonymous sources who have no idea what they are talking about so correct the record you know that creates a sticky situation for the Trump administration though because if it is false for just the Ukrainians what about the Afghans the other groups these programs protect so there's a larger issue here because the temporary protected status benefit available
Starting point is 00:34:18 to Venezuelans and Ukrainians has already been impacted for Venezuelans in his final weeks in office Biden announced that TPS for both groups would be extended until fall 2026 however the Trump administration acted quickly to reverse those decisions. As a result, they reverted to the original timeline. The administration declared that Venezuelans who received temporary protected status in 2023 will lose it in April 2025, while those who received it in 2021 may lose it later this year. Christy Nome herself already announced that the 2023 designation will not be extended. So what's really happening here?
Starting point is 00:35:05 And why not just say the quiet part out loud, explain even more instead of just saying Reuters is fake news, Jen? Yeah, because all he does is A-B test. Because his natural nature is to be as vicious and ruthless as possible. He has trouble empathizing with and relating to other human beings. So he just doesn't sense them. He doesn't get it. That's why he called the troops who go to die for this country, suckers and losers.
Starting point is 00:35:37 He doesn't understand why you would sacrifice for anyone else. So what he does is he pushes the envelope until it gets super unpopular and then he brings it back. So like I said, he'll try to deport some of these folks. The American people will scream, no, no, no, you're not sending the Venezuelans back to Venezuela. You're not sending the Ukrainians back to Ukraine. And then he'll scramble back and say, oh, no, I never meant it. It was all fake news. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:36:03 And guys, and if you're MAGA, it's called trial balloons, right? Politicians have been known this for a long time. Trump is just a master of it, where they float an idea and then see how people react, put their finger to the wind, right? Look at the polling and then go, and they don't, a lot of times the president himself doesn't do it, they leak it or they have somebody in his administration saying so that they can walk it back. And if it's received very poorly, then he walks it.
Starting point is 00:36:30 it back and goes fake news you see that you never trust the media never trust the Democrats I was never gonna do that anyway right but but if it pulls well then they plow ahead right and if it's three receive well they fly ahead so this will be received very poorly so I have this and I let's hope I'm right as a lot less likely to happen well um all we can do is stay tuned um we're gonna take another quick break and then get into some massive gas lighting All right, back on TYT, Jenk and sharing with you guys, more news. Let's get to that massive gas lighting. Watch.
Starting point is 00:37:25 If we are issuing pardons, however, there is one person that President Trump should pardon from federal charges forthwith. It would be incredibly controversial, but I think that it's absolutely necessary. That person is Derek Chauvin. President Trump should, in fact, pardoned Derek Chauvin. He should. He should pardon him his federal charges. Yes, because all of the other things going on, including the price of avocados, this is what Ben Shapiro is thinking about. This week, he launched a campaign to convince President Trump to pardon former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, who was responsible for the death of George Floyd. I'm going to toss it to you, Jenkin, just a second. But as a reminder, let's tell people
Starting point is 00:38:05 the history. Chauvin's sentenced to 270 months, 22 and a half years in prison, June 2021, after he was found guilty of accounts of second-degree, unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter. Year later, Chauvin was handed an additional 21-year sentence for violating Floyd's civil rights. Floyd's death was deemed a homicide after Chauvin knelt on his neck for nine minutes, people looking on. Mr. Floyd was handcuffed, face down, gasping, begging for air. My face is gone. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Uh-huh. I can't believe me, please, please let me stand. Please, make me. I just hate hearing those screams and sometimes I say why why show it? This is a man's effectively his final moment but we have to show it because we forget these these aren't cartoon characters these are real people and so you know TYT has been on the story jank from day one second one and I wonder what your thoughts are on this nut job proposal and his rationale for it and Elon chiming in.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Yeah, we'll get to Elon in a minute. So I've been saying do not call all Trump voters racist. That's crazy talk, there's a lot of independence in there and you're making blanket assumptions about people and it's not helpful, it's not good strategy, it's not the right thing to do and it isn't true. But if you do something that is specifically racist, yes, we get to call you racist. And there is no reason in the world to go back and try to make Derek Chauvin a hero, unless you're a goddamn racist.
Starting point is 00:40:00 And so I hope that's clear enough to Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk. So there is absolutely no justification for this. And if you're on board for it, and you're like, oh, yeah, Derek Chauvin, just kneeling on a black man's neck and murdering him. It's so great, he's a hero, he should be pardoned. Yeah, you're very much a racist, very much. That's my opinion. Pretty much sums it up.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Yeah. Shapiro continued by justifying his plea to pardon Chauvin. Listen. If we're talking about reversing the evils of the last several years in American life, obviously COVID and its handling was a massive evil. Destroyed the economy, set us on a path to fiscal insanity, destroyed children, led to massive health-related cover-ups, just horrifying all the way around.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And President Trump has taken on a lot of those. things. But when it came to BLM, the inciting event for the BLM riots that caused two billion dollars in property damage in the United States and set America's race relations on their worst footing in my lifetime, was in fact the railroading of Derek Chauvin in the death of George Floyd. The evidence demonstrates that Derek Chauvin did not, in fact, commit murder of George Floyd. George Floyd was high on fentanyl. He had a significant pre-existing heart condition. George Floyd was saying he could not breathe before he was even out of the car. He was in the car saying he could not breathe. Derek Chauvin for a large segments of even the
Starting point is 00:41:24 tape that was shown had his knee on George Floyd's shoulder or back, not on his neck. The autopsy of George Floyd showed that he had no damage to his trachea. That probably George Floyd died of excited delirium. Now he's a doctor and a trial attorney. Dr. Andrew Baker, We'll begin there to give you some of the facts just to remind you of what really went down. Hennibate County's chief medical examiner said Floyd died after police. Subdual restraint and neck compression caused his heart and lungs to stop. He said heart disease and drug use for factors, but not the top line causes. He said Floyd had an enlarged heart that needed more oxygen than normal as well as narrowed arteries.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Now, what Republicans, though, loved to focus on, Baker testified that he told prosecutors on the day of Floyd's autopsy that there was no physical evidence of asphyxia or insufficient oxygen. Prosecutors put that information in their initial complaint against Chauvin, listed existing health conditions, police restraint, potential intoxicants as contributing factors. But neck compression is different. Baker said his office received 100. of cause, some harassing, threatening former Washington DC medical examiner, Dr. Roger Mitchell, who is an expert in in custody deaths, also said Baker was unhappy. Baker said the two talked about neck compression, and Mitchell also planned to publish a critical op-ed in the Washington Post. Baker said he considered Mitchell's opinion and analysis before adding net compression to his report. Additionally, there is this. Chauvin admitted that he had,
Starting point is 00:43:10 held his left knee across Mr. Floyd's neck, back and shoulder, and his right knee on Mr. Floyd's back and arm. Chauvin further admitted that he continued to use force, even though he was aware that Mr. Floyd had stopped resisting, talking, and moving. And even though he was aware that Mr. Floyd had lost consciousness and a pulse. So he also admitted his use of unreasonable force resulted in George Floyd's death because his actions, impaired his ability to obtain and maintain sufficient oxygen. That's the perk himself saying that had it not been for my knee and my decision, Mr. Floyd would not have had his oxygen restricted. According to Shapiro, though, he's an innocent man rotting away in jail and it's time to take a
Starting point is 00:43:59 stand, which is why he launched this petition. No joke. As I say, we will be covering this pretty extensively in the coming weeks. Right now, you go to pardonderick.com and sign our petition asking President Trump to grant justice to officer Derek Chauvin. That is, pardon, P-A-R-D-O-N-D-R-E-R-E-K dot com, P-A-R-D-O-N-D-E-R-E-K dot com. Maybe in between negotiations with Hamas, President Trump will look at the petition. On the website, it states in a letter directly to Trump, under the circumstances, there was no opportunity for blind justice to work. And a man is now rotting in prison because of it. Make no mistake, the Derek Chauvin conviction represents the defining achievement of the woke movement in American politics.
Starting point is 00:44:48 The country cannot turn the page on that dark, this is a racist era without writing this. I mean, this is the gas lighting, without writing this terrible wrong. Thank you for your commitment to ending the weaponization of the American justice system, like a hip, list. Sadly, there is some support. I mean, you're not surprised rallying around this petition. And it's from the one man who does have some influence over Donald Trump. There he is. When he's not tearing down systems and talking about Ponzi schemes, he's commenting on this. Something to think about, Elon Musk says. Again, the gas lady in the stoking, this inflict trauma, distract, whatever. However, even if Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk can convince Trump to pardon Chauvin,
Starting point is 00:45:41 remember that would only affect his federal charges, he would not automatically become a free man. He would still remain behind bars for 22 and a half years for the state charges of unintentional murder, third degree murder, and manslaughter. I don't even know if you want to, I mean, I think we know what's going to happen. I take bets that Trump picks this up. And if there's a slow day in between eating McDonald's. He will probably issue the pardon. What say you about just all of this? I think it's just sick.
Starting point is 00:46:36 in particular. But first, let me address the substance. So he's saying, oh, well, you know, he was, sometimes he was on his back and he just put his knee on his back and shoulder instead of his neck from different times. And, and Derek Chauvin had trouble breathing throughout. Wait, is that, wouldn't that make you want to lean on his neck less if he's had trouble breathing throughout the entire thing? And you want to try to renegotiate and read, litigate whether he died of excited delirium. It makes it sound like he died because he was so excited. I know what it means.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Or because he was choked to death. Okay guys, bottom line is we all saw with our own eyes that his body went limp. And then he sat, he still had his knee on his neck for what, three minutes after that? Everyone watching that video, you didn't matter if you're black or white or, I mean, unless you're a deep racist like Ben, like Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk. You looked at that once, get off of them, get off of them. And look, why is race relevant here? Because if you're denying that cops in America have been brutal
Starting point is 00:47:48 to African Americans historically, okay, I mean, you can deny anything you want, but I would ask you why, why would you deny that? It's not a statement on anything that's happening today. It's not a statement on what you're doing. So why would you deny something that was so patently and obviously true, Ms. Copsis have historically been brutal to African Americans in this country. So we then as a nation, we watch this guy have the life taken out of him.
Starting point is 00:48:15 And then the son bitch won't even get off of his body and we can't get him a treatment. And somebody thinks, hey, I got an idea. Why don't we go back to that and defend a disgusting, deranged guy who knelt on that guy's neck? Well after he was dead, like killing him wasn't enough for Derek Chauvin. That's how indifferent to life he was. But no, Ben Shapiro is going to go back and the real racist are against Derek Chauvin. Yeah, you black people complaining about getting murdered by the cops, you're the real racist. Don't you know that white cops are allowed to do that?
Starting point is 00:48:54 Whatever, dude. Look, I get it. So this is what's happening in case you're unaware, Ben Shapiro and Daily Wire are trying to get us engaged in culture wars. That's why what why are we talking about Derek Chauvin? That happened five years ago. Why is he bringing it back now, now? Because they just introduce a four and a half trillion dollar tax cut for the rich. And the whole point of daily wire is to create culture wars so you're distracted when they're about to rob you.
Starting point is 00:49:23 So they're about to give four and a half trillion dollars to the people who funded daily wire. So overall as a group, right? Right, the enormously wealthy and corporations. So they don't want you to talk about that at all. They're about to cut Medicaid by about $800 billion. They're about to not cut the Pentagon, but add to the Pentagon $100 billion. All the donors are about to get paid. Oh, by the way, also Israel's coming for another check and they're demanding more money to slaughter more Palestinians.
Starting point is 00:49:52 So you don't want to see it, Ben Shapiro doesn't want you to see any of that. So now he's going back to pick some sort of racist fight so he could rally everybody and get the whole country to hate each other again. Because it forces us to call us, call Ben Shapiro what he is, which is an obvious, raging, racist piece of crap. So then he goes, oh my God, I was called racist. Oh, they always call everyone racist. Just because you object, just because you don't mind a black man being murdered right in front of your eyes. Now you're a racist. Yeah, for that, you are a racist.
Starting point is 00:50:22 So, okay, congratulations, you did it, Ben. We're back into the cultural wars. We're back at literally at each other's throats. and cross your fingers that they don't notice the four and a half trillion, trillion dollar tax cut that they're about to rob us of to give to the richest people in the country. That's what this is about. Otherwise, there's no reason to bring this back up. It's the right wing version of virtue signaling, but it's the opposite.
Starting point is 00:50:51 It's signaling that you have no virtue at all. It's Ben Shapiro raising his hand saying, I'm an evil piece of crap racist who would like to gather all the racists around here. And remember guys, don't worry about the tax cuts. Don't worry that you're gonna get robbed. You're totally and utterly gonna get robbed because let's have another race war. That's what this is about. I just don't understand why the other side, I watch a lot of cable news and I want to
Starting point is 00:51:18 throw things and shoes and it's just awful. But why can't it just be said the other side, just the way you're just the way you're you just said it. I got it. It's a distraction. But are we this pathetic that the killer himself said he did it and explained how he did it. There was a MMA artist who was on the scene, a paramedic. The MMA guy said, I called the police because I saw the police committee to murder. The off-duty paramedic said, please, I want to help. And they said, we're going to pepper spray you. I mean, those are the facts. Are we this daft, uncaring, racist, that it's that, at least be more clever if you're going to distract us?
Starting point is 00:52:00 I don't understand why we can't have more people in the Democratic Party. Say it just the way you said it, and then just move on. Don't get into this back and forth with them. It's painful, it's hurtful, it's gaslighting, but at the end of the day, it's foolishness. Guys, whatever you do, do not sign that nonsense petition. So, because you're telling on yourself, we're not, we didn't come to find whoever is the crazy racist guys in the country who think that Derek Chauvin is the victim. Derek Chauvin is the victim in that scenario where he murdered that man right in front of our
Starting point is 00:52:39 eyes. You're just telling on yourself. Okay, if you, if you like the culture wars and you don't care about it. anything that actually hurts the average American and you don't want to focus on that. And all you want to do is identity politics. Then Daily Wire is perfect for you. So you go get aggrieved about how racist black people are against white people and how poor Derek Chauvin was a real victim here. But all you're saying is, yeah, I am that jerk that you thought I was. I am that terrible, immoral person you thought I was. That does not apply to all
Starting point is 00:53:10 to Trump voters. It applies to people like Ben Shapiro, Elon Musk, and whoever goes out of their way to sign that petition. And then by the way, if you fall for stupid tricks and they go, okay, since I hate the lips so much since they called me a racist, take my money here, here, have tax cuts for all the corporations and all the subsidies. And we're not going to cut anything. We're not going to help the average American at all. We're going to rob you blind as long as, oh, I'm satiated with the culture wars. All right. So this is the same old disgusting game that Ben Shapiro and Daily Wire have been playing throughout. By the way, who's the people who came up with all, who found the 13 trans
Starting point is 00:53:49 trans people that the entire country is having a giant enormous debate over. I say 13 is actually literally only 10 trans college athletes in the NCAAs at a 500,000 out of 330 million people. Why are we talking about those 10 people? Oh right, that came from the Daily Wire, culture wars, distractions. But meanwhile, don't look at the tax cuts, don't look at the subsidies, don't look at the way that corporations are robbing you every. every single day under both Democratic and now Republican administrations.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Why do they fire all the inspector generals? Why do they fire everyone who could look out for Wall Street robbing you? Tech bros robbing you. Every cop on the beat on Wall Street has been taken off. They defunded the police. Well, so and they don't want you to notice that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Wall Street should have no cops. I'm sure, I'm sure, of course they love Wall Street.
Starting point is 00:54:43 That's what DailyWire is all about, glorifying Wall Street, glorifying the donor class. Okay, and if you're on the right and you fall for that, you're a total sucker. They laugh at you behind the scenes. We got all the money from these suckers while we got them to fight each other over race. That's the whole point of DailyWire, now you know. I don't understand why they can't just say it the way you just did. It takes, it sucks the wind right out of it. I just don't get it, it's gonna do it for our first hour.
Starting point is 00:55:16 All right, Sharon, thank you so much. Everybody check out of Sharon on Rebel Headquarters on YouTube. Amazing, we're also on Indisputable. Of course, check that out often something for Dr. Rashad Ritchie there as well. All right guys, thank you, Sharon, and we'll be right back.

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