The Young Turks - Hitting The Walz

Episode Date: October 12, 2024

A UN inquiry accuses Israel of trying to destroy Gaza’s healthcare system. Walz walks back his comment on eliminating the Electoral College, saying, “My position is the campaign’s position.” Meteorologists receive death threats as Hurricane Milton conspiracy theories spread." HOST: Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur),John Iadarola (@johniadarola), Ramesh Srinivasan (@RameshMedias) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ https://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER: ☞ https://www.twitter.com/theyoungturks INSTAGRAM: ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK: ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕 Merch: https://shoptyt.com ❤ Donate: http://www.tyt.com/go 🔗 Website: https://www.tyt.com 📱App: http://www.tyt.com/app 📬 Newsletters: https://www.tyt.com/newsletters/ If you want to watch more videos from TYT, consider subscribing to other channels in our network: The Watchlist https://www.youtube.com/watchlisttyt Indisputable with Dr. Rashad Richey https://www.youtube.com/indisputabletyt The Damage Report ▶ https://www.youtube.com/thedamagereport TYT Sports ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytsports The Conversation ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytconversation Rebel HQ ▶ https://www.youtube.com/rebelhq TYT Investigates ▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Drop it like Republicans drop it like Republicans drop conspiracy theories. All right, welcome to the Young Turks, power panel. Hold on, hold on, we're not there yet. Okay, Tim Walts is a stray head on the power panel, no. Jake Hugar, John Iderola, Ramesh, of course, professor at UCLA, John hosts the damage report, and we got an important, interesting show for you guys, as usual today, so live from the Polymarket Studio. And so we have a UN inquiry into Israel, of course, unfortunately, it's major news.

We have to talk about it. We have a lot of updates on the campaign and good ones, bad ones. But today I got not just mystified, as I often am and we all are, but angry about the Republican conspiracy theories about the hurricanes. Like, now they're threatening to murder weathermen because, and then they get, then they wonder, they're like, oh, Jane, you don't like the establishment. Why don't you join Trump in the, in the mental asylum? No, because he's in a mental asylum. If you pick the candidate that wasn't, it had not freshly escaped from being Hannibal Lecter's

roommate, then maybe I, you know, we could have a conversation, but that's not the situation here. So anyways, we'll get to all those stories. Those are amazing. John, take it away. Yeah, we'll get to that madness, but we have to start off in the way that we typically do here on the Young Turks, there will be a day, there will be a Friday when we do not start off a devastating news from Gaza, but today is unfortunately not that day. Let's jump into this. The health system in Gaza has been completely obliterated and the right to health has been decimated at every level. The attacks, the harassment, the killings of many of my own colleagues, the healthcare workers, the destructions of health facilities. And the destruction of humanitarian aid organizations continue to catapult to proportions yet to be fully quantified, if at all possible.

What you just saw there was some of what the UN is alleging is a systematic attempt to dismantle and destroy the healthcare industry inside of Gaza. And the system there has been strained and gradually destroyed since very early on in this conflict. Bear in mind that prior to the conflict, it's not as though the healthcare system of Gaza was allowed thanks to the blockade to be anything other than bare bones. And so that was a situation going into the conflict in which it has been utterly destroyed. And the UN is now announcing in this inquiry that they believe that this amounts to war crimes, specifically targeting aid workers, hospitals, the infrastructure, and medics. And we want to give you all the details, bear in mind if it was not clear already that this is going to be very dark stuff.

I mean, we're going to be giving you what doctors have said about their experience on the ground, some of the most horrendous acts you can imagine. And we're going to start off with a statement by former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay, accused Israel, quote, relentless and deliberate attacks on medical personnel and facilities in the war, saying that children in particular have borne the brunt of these attacks, suffering both directly and indirectly from the collapse of the health system. And one of the case studies that they talked about during this announcement was about Hind Rajab, a five-year-old Palestinian girl, who at one point was trapped in a car with her dead family members. They had been killed,

she was now trapped in there, could not escape. Paramedics arrived at the scene to help her. They were then fired at by the IDF. The ambulance that had come to help the unfortunately parish family members and the five year old was hit by a tank shell while within just 50 meters of the family, despite the fact that its route had been deliberately coordinated with the IDF prior to going on this mission. And it was only two weeks later that the remains of the paramedics were able to be recovered along with the bodies of the family. And at that point, the body of the five year old who was never rescued from that situation because anyone who went to rescue them were killed as well. And that's devastating. And it's not a, it's not a single

case like that. Doctors who have served in Gaza are reporting one in particular said they saw gaza and children who'd been shot in the head every single day that they were there. There was not a day until they left that went by without seeing that. And there's a lot of other details and I'll provide them. But that's a lot and it's very difficult, apologies, but that's the situation that's happening there. Yeah, so yesterday I said Israel's creating crimes against humanity. So that's as strong a statement as you can make.

It's one of the worst things that any country can do literally in the history of humanity. And today the UN concluded that's exactly what they're doing, crimes against humanity. There's also sexual violence, there's torture. By the way, they also condemned Hamas for sexual violence and torture. That's why we're withdrawing the $26 billion we're sending to, oh right, we're not sending anything to Hamas except bombs on top of their heads. But Israel that is committing the same sexual violence and torture and adding the destruction of the healthcare system of an entire area with 2.2 million people in it and shooting medics, et cetera, they are getting $26 billion from us. And so it's completely outraged. Look guys, there's a couple of things here that make you realize that this is,

all the talking points are dead. So any talk of like the right to defend yourself is just garbage. It's what every aggressive imperial power says before they invade and take land. We were just defending ourselves. So if you want me to say Germans, I'll say Germans because it's absolutely true. That's what they did do when they attacked their neighbors in the 1930s. But it's not just the Germans, it's every ethnicity. that's ever had more power than their neighbors.

They attacked their neighbors, and then they say, oh, we were just defending ourselves. That's what Russia said about Ukraine. Literally, every single imperial power says it every single time. Nobody ever says, oh, yeah, we're the bad guys and we're evil, and we're going to go take your land and kill almost all your people and destroy your health care system. No, they say, we were just defending ourselves. What, what could we do? And that October 7th, the fact that IDF knew about it, then we see how sophisticated that, They are and blowing up Pagers, walkie toogies, and everything else.

And now you're telling me the IDF is a bunch of bungling clowns that accidentally let October 7th happen. Or, hey, look at that, an imperial power that has an excuse to go attack all of its neighbors and take their land. So they're in southern Lebanon right now. As we reported yesterday, they're pushing back the peacekeepers. They shot a bunch of peacekeepers. They're using them as hume shields, again, according to the United Nations. They're firing from behind the peacekeepers. I mean, they're doing every single thing that they said they despise and they accuse their opponents of.

But the thing I want to constrate on here is, as John just mentioned, Hindrajab. So if you don't know, the Israelis get notice, oh, you guys killed her entire family, but she's a five-year-old and she's in the car, she's alive. We're going to send an ambulance to go just rescue her. Just an ambulance, just her, okay? They go, thank you so much for letting us know. They pull up a tank and they shoot at and, of course, kill everybody inside the ambulance with the tank from 55 yards away. And then they murdered the five-year-old.

So it's not like they didn't know. They killed her whole family. Then they murdered her and they murdered the people who were coming to help her. But that ambulance is not an exception. It's the rule. They've already killed over a thousand medics in Palestine. So when you're systematically murdering the health care workers, by the way, also the journalist, and then U.S. doctors come home and write a letter to Joe Biden, New York Times confirmed it,

where they say an extraordinary percentage of headshots on children. There's some chance that you're the bad guys and you've lost sight of reality and you've become blinded by your rage and your sense of victimhood and that you think your trauma from however many years ago justifies you doing the same thing to other people. And it doesn't. It's a crime against humanity. And the fact that Israel's doing it should break the hearts of every Israeli supporter in the world. You going and defending crimes against humanity is the most perversely ironic thing I have ever seen. Ramesh. Amen. Amen. I mean, we're talking about state-backed terror. is what we're talking about.

I mean, you know, in the Lebanon case with, you know, wiring up cell phones and pagers. I mean, this is straight up what terrorist networks do, right, so that they exploded and committed mass murder as a result. Israel is engaging in a state-based terror project, and it's, we could consider it a colonial project, but I would say it's the most sort of vicious forms of colonialism, which are direct. murders and genocides. And so we're talking about here not just the devastating onslaught of violence and murder toward women and children, but also per your story, per this story, the health system, hospitals, schools, poets and artists and journalists. You know, yesterday I was reading, I was reading a story about an Al Jazeera photojournalist. I work with

Al Jazeera quite a bit myself, more often on there than any. other network actually. And this camera person was being directly followed, or a whole Al Jazeera crew was being directly followed by a drone that was basically shooting at them and ended up murdering at least one of them. Others are injured. The thing that just keeps sitting with me now over the past year, every single time I join you all, which is almost every month, is that sense of helplessness and that kind of nauseating feeling that I felt when the war are so-called BS war on terror with the war toward Iraq and Afghanistan occurred. That feeling of helplessness, you know, now the UN has, the UN has been wringing its hands

for months and months, but the UN has no sovereignty. The real question is, how can we stop this? How can this end? And at the end of the day, that gets back to something that's deeply shameful for me, as a Buddhist, as a spiritual being, as a U.S. citizen, and as an educator, and as a person from another part of the world. It's a, it's a racist project that involves Whiteler settler colonial Jews engaging in, in Israeli set of actions that I believe are actually anti-Semitic. I actually believe that Israel's actions are devastating for many of my

Jewish brothers and sisters who are against this. And it really shows how the UN just doesn't have any sovereignty in all. Why? Because of us. Because of us. And, you know, and Yes, I'm supportive of the vice president, my distant third cousin, by the way. Is that right? I didn't know that. But I have absolute shame in supporting any politician, any so-called leader that is open to the mass murder of people in the Middle East. And that's exactly what this is. Let me address what Remmey said there, a couple of things. So first of all, guys, again, if you've lost touch with morality and reality, and you

think that Israel's the most bungling military in the world, and they accidentally killed over 100 journalists and more journalists than every other nation, including Iraq, Russia and all of the awful nations that have done invasions, all of them combined. All of them combined. Oh, it was collateral damage. It was an action. You were making excuse after excusing. Guess what?

A lot of the journalists who were killed, headshots, including the American journalist that was killed, headshot. The other American killed in the West Bank, head shot. So snipers firing from hundreds of yards away and hitting them in the head. So you can say that was all accident and they meant to hit a goat or whatever excuse it makes you feel better, but the rest of the world sees it, and it's driving anti-Semitism through the roof, not people talking about it. Israel doing it. They're not making it up. Israel actually is doing it. Look, you can live in your fantasy world where, oh my God,

Israel's immoral to shoot five-year-olds in the head. And the only reason why you don't think it's moral is because the whole world is anti-Semitic. We're the only good guys, And everyone else is evil in the world. Okay, you can think that, but you sound crazy, totally detached from reality, if you believe that. And it's hurting our Jewish families and friends for Israel to go, yes, you're supposed to kill the journalists. You're supposed to kill the healthcare workers. Oh, we did it by accident. It doesn't, none of this, nonsense, total nonsense.

So what can we do? We have no choice here to address what you're saying, because Kamala Harris, for the genocide, and in fact today, talking to, apparently or yesterday, talking to Jewish American supporters in a closed door meeting, but it leaked through Axios. She said, oh, Iran, everything's on the table. She's like, I mean, I'd like to do it through diplomacy, but oh, yeah, if we have to, what, now we're the neocons. We didn't learn anything from Iraq. And then Trump says, oh, do it already. You just start the war already. He's saying bomb the nuclear facilities, make it worse. Both sides say,

They absolutely positively will serve Israel, no matter how many crimes against humanity come in, as long as the checks keep coming in. And if you don't think that hundreds of millions of dollars from donors matters to scum politicians, you're nuts. And that's what the deranged lunatics, who are the reporters in Washington, D.C., reporters. Oh, I don't, APAC doesn't affect it. Miriam Edelson doesn't affect it at all, because Donald Trump is such a saint. He wouldn't be affected, but by the $300 million that the Aedelson family has given him over three elections.

Kamala Harris is such a saint, she wouldn't care about $5 million she's gotten from APEC, Joe Biden wouldn't care about $11 million, Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House for the Republicans, wouldn't care that Apex's top donor. Only the dumbest, dumbest, or most dishonest person in the world would say that. So what can we do since our reporters won't help you at all. They will not report the truth about our morally heinous politicians who'll do anything for money and says our politicians are the worst of the worst. Anyone who agrees to what Netanyahu is doing is Netanyahu. So our only options are twofold.

One is obvious economic boycott. Like I remember when people say, oh, BDS, oh, that's anti-Semitic. Are you kidding me? Occupying for 57 years, 5.5 million people is not bigoted? Saying, well, they're violent savages. You can't trust them with sovereignty. They can't govern themselves. They're Muslim savages.

That's not bigoted? And you think saying there should be economic boycott of Israel for occupying them, slaughtering them, et cetera, is bigoted? No, no, you've lost any supporter of Israel that's still after this brutal 12 months of endless slaughter is still supporting Israel and pretending it's a defending itself. It's comical, ridiculous, you look total, you look nuts to the rest of us, totally deranged. So no, economic boycott, definitely, don't buy a single product from Israel besides which it might blow up on you.

You know, I saw the story again today. They did it in the 90s too in Lebanon where they dropped things and then, oh, all of a sudden they look benign and then they blow up, okay? So no, buying Israeli products is saying, yeah, oh, I love what Israel's doing. Oh, Israel, slaughtering all these people, crimes against humanity. Would you have bought from, all right, anyway, I don't want to get into analogies because everybody gets so triggered. No, no, we are the pure moral ones as we slaughter and slaughter and slaughter and occupy

and imprison and denigrate and humiliate these people. The second thing is, yeah, shame. If you're still supporting Israel with this aggressive imperialist wars that they have, where they will not stop killing people. Headshots, they will not stop killing children. And now another report out that yes, back to starving in Gaza. They've cut the supplies again, and now babies are starting to die not just from head shots, but from starvation.

If you starve a whole set of people that you have in giant concentration camps, you are not the good guys. It doesn't mean permanently, it's a government, it's not about a people, it's not about an ethnicity. It's about a government. That government is filled with terrorists. If Hamas had all of Israel imprisoned in an open air concentration camp and they were doing headshots of Jewish children, what wouldn't we do to make them stop? What wouldn't we do to make them stop? But no, our government says, oh, it's Palestinian children, Muslim Arab children, just shoot them in the head. Here's $26 billion. So F our government. Our government is totally responsible.

Don't buy a single thing from Israel. And yes, if you're an Israeli supporter, you should be deeply ashamed. You should carry that immorality with you in your heart until you turn around and go, this isn't what Israel was supposed to be. Israel was supposed to be a safe haven for Jews. Not some weirdo imperial power that is known throughout the world for oppression and crimes against humanity. That's what you set up Israel for?

Have you lost your mind? And until you turn around, if you're still supporting this government, you really, you're a deeply immoral person who has lost any sense of morality or decency. And all you can think is tribe, tribe, tribe, tribe, my tribe, not to other tribes. Other tribes are guilty. Let's kill them. Who do you sound like? Who do you look like?

Wake up, wake up. And no, I'm not going to stop shaming you until you wake up. And if that hurts your feelings, it hurts my feelings a lot more that there's hundreds of kids with head shots, with bullets in their heads for one of the most immoral armies on the planet, IDF. Calling that a moral army is a sick, sick joke. The IDF is deeply immoral. I can't, like, all right. Anyways, maybe that's why they put my name on one of their bombs because, oh, God forbid you should say anything against Israel. If you're anywhere near the region, you'll get a bullet in the head, as other American

journalists have, or maybe they'll send you something and murder you, and America will celebrate. Yeah, bravo, can we send more money? Can we send more money to the terrorist state? Outrageous! I can't stand it. I promised myself today that I wouldn't get loud. I can't help it. Who can live with this?

Who can live with this indecency? Yeah, I mean, I just want to say, like, I appreciate your heart and your conviction and your integrity and being about this. And what I want to say to both of you and everyone who's watching this is outside of of whether you identify as Jewish or Muslim or atheist or what have you, a really strong moral compass, a spiritual compass, a political compass could just be about being against the murder of innocent life, right? And so look at who's being murdered and who isn't right now. And look at who is innocent and who isn't that's being murdered. And I just want to say also this very quick comment, because I've had people come to me as I'm sure even more to both

of you saying, oh, Trump would be much better about this than Biden and Harris. Trump literally uses the term Palestinian as a dehumanizing term. Trump is explicitly dehumanizing. It does not believe in the value of Palestinian lives. Harris and Biden are full of, you know what, but they rhetorically attempt to humanize, but their actions are ones of continued dehumanization. And then last quick thing to what you said, what actually took down the South African apartheid state, which is perhaps in many ways, the Israeli apartheid state at this point is worse, in many ways worse, but let's not even compare them, was economic divestment. Global economic divestment is what crippled them. Not unfortunately great leaders like Mandela, who fortunately

did come back to power. So, you know, I know we're all getting shamed for speaking about the protection and the sacredness of life, but at the end of the day, um, The actions of the Israeli state have made life much, much more dangerous in my mind for my Jewish friends. And, you know, I'm close. I have family members that are Jewish, many students who were in our encampment on campus, part of Jewish voices for peace who were brutalized, beaten up, treated like savages, they're Jewish people who are standing for peace. So we know what this is all about. And I just hope everybody knows what it's all about. We need real leaders who can remove this moral and spiritual. stain. I know I keep using the word spiritual. I was in caves in the Himalayas last couple of months, but this this sort of stain on all of us, you know, and I think that that guilt and

that nausea and this thing that's just gnawing at all of us is, it really gnaws at me. It just makes me feel really troubled as a human being and as an American citizen, moreover. Yeah, and I'll echo your earlier point of, you know, when you don't avoid this news and when you talk about this news and everything, you really do end up feeling very, very helpless knowing that there's apparently nobody in a position of power in American government that's going to even try, try and fail perhaps to do something about it. It's possible that if Harris took Jenks advice, 100%, she would try to pressure Nanyahu and she would fail.

I don't think that's likely, but maybe she would, but at least then we wouldn't be a part of it. And that would be an improvement and instead, you know, you good reporter or 60 minutes or whatever, Lasker, you know, like, could we like maybe pressure the government? And she'll just she'll just talk about nonsense. And the maybe thing, this is the only point I'll make. We almost did a story. J.D. Vance, again, was asked by a reporter, like five separate times, did Trump lose the election? And he refuses to answer it. But the reporter keeps asking. Because reporters in American media who generally don't like asking fall of questions to powerful people on this

topic have been given license to do that. So do that with the question about what would it take for us to withdraw the funds, withdraw the weapons. Like what could Netanyahu order, what could the IDF do that would cross a line? Because we got a whole lot of things that feel like they should have crossed anyone's line, you know, eight months ago, 10 months ago, so is there literally anything? And she'll say something, blah, blah, blah, blah, got to give the weapons to defend, blah, blah, blah, and then you ask again, and you ask again, they should be ashamed when they do shameful things.

And there's no such thing as a line now, it seems like, and there used to be lines that somehow would be crossed where they did far fewer devastating and murderous things, they being the state of Israel, that we were able to shut them down and stop them. And the fact that there is no line here being crossed, despite them crossing, I mean, there are numerous lines being crossed. There is no line that they won't cross, right? So like, like there seems to be no end insight to what would actually stop us from continuing to arm and provide diplomatic and political cover, including with the,

shameful lack of sovereignty that the UN has, there is no line. There is no line. And that's why I'm so like perplexed about it all and just grossed out. Honestly, I'm just grossed out by it all. Yeah, I mean, guys, to add unfortunately fuel to that fire, remember after they did months and months of slaughter in Gaza, at that point already tens of thousands of women and children had been murdered. We gave them a reward of $26 billion. That $26 billion didn't come in the beginning right after October 7th when they were attacked.

That came pretty recently a couple of months ago. So about eight, nine months into the conflict, after most of the people in Gaza that were, you know, that are currently dead had already been killed, the big percentage. And the U.S., we were forced as taxpayers to send them a reward for killing. all those kids and women. Oh, congratulations, nice job. Normally we give you $4 billion. Now we're going to up it all the way to $26 billion.

So what is the message that Israeli leaders here? The more Muslims I kill, the more crimes against humanity I do, the bigger reward America gives me. Yeah. I mean, if that doesn't break your heart, I'm not sure you got one left. So, and to your point about the journalist, John, it's a statement. single journalist ever going to ask about the donors? I mean, are we going to ignore the 800 pound gorilla in the room?

Like, why do we not negotiate drug prices in America? Because of the big drug company donors. If you don't know that, you literally don't know anything about politics. Go retire, become a dentist. What are you wasting your life doing as a marketing executive for donors pretending you're a reporter? And on this issue, if you think APAC and the Edelsoons, et cetera, are not affecting the decisions of the politicians, it's, I mean, it's so embarrassing. Please, please, to retire immediately,

because you're humiliating yourself every day by not asking the most obvious question in the world. And then finally, you know, they object again to BDS, you know, boycotting and divesting and sanctions of Israel, et cetera. They say it's anti-Semitic to threaten our prophets. Come on. And remember when the Palestinians went to the UN and asked for a state just like Israel. Now Israel says you can't resist the occupation ever. You must just become an obedient servants of the Israelis. You can't because if you resisted violently, obviously you're a terrorist.

If you resist it through sanctions, you're an anti-Semite and you should have your contracts taken away from you. Several states in this country, we had a member right in yesterday, several states say that if you ever criticize Israel, we'll pull your government. government contracts, okay? You can criticize America and criticize any country you want, Canada, no problem. But if you criticize Israel, we're gonna pull your contracts.

Because how dare you be so anti-Semitic as to even criticize Israel, right? So now we can't do economic, we can't do obviously violence, I'm against. We can't even, but we can't even use words. We can't use words. So, and then when they went through through diplomacy, it doesn't get any less terrorist than diplomacy, and can I just get the same exact treatment that Israel got? Declare Palestine a state, guess what Israel said, terrorists. Well, if diplomacy is terrorism, then you made a mockery of the English language.

So, so listening to Netanyahu and these right wing, literal terrorist leaders inside Israel, I mean, Van Gogh, convicted of aiding and abetting terrorism. So literal terrorists inside the Israeli cabinet and criticizing them as a bad guy's gnome, if you support them, you are very literally supporting crimes against humanity. So look yourself in the mirror and see if you're comfortable with that. I think we got to take our first break, but there's a lot more to get to after this. with you guys. Kian, thank you for purchasing membership through t yt.com slash team. Crow Potkin slash fanboy. Thank you for the contribution. We're going to, yeah,

t yt.com slash team or t yt.com slash 2024 is all good. Thank you guys. You're amazing. I'm going to just read one more comment from our member. Serber's Dragon said, this is exactly why we need the young Turks. You will never see this on mainstream media anywhere. Thank you, No, thank you guys. So without you guys being members, this place doesn't even exist. Poof, it's gone, it's invisible. And so then all you have is the mainstream media guys go, oh, yes, of course, Israel has a right to defend itself. All the Muslims are savages, and they should not have sovereignty.

They're the only people in the world who can't handle sovereignty. You know how savage the Muslims are. But Bill Maher says it every night. Every time he does, he'll just say it again tonight. One of the biggest bigots that I've ever seen in American media despises Muslims, those propagandest Muslims day in. day out. Every single time he talks about Muslims, he sneers unless there's some turn code who's getting paid by literally by the Israeli government. Then he's like, look, I found a Muslim who agrees all other Muslims are violent savages. You see, I have Muslim friends. So that's

mainstream media, Dana Bash now. Don't totally out of control. Oh, Israel's right. Israel's right about everything and human shields, et cetera. I'm so sick of it. So basically what I want to tell you guys is thank you for allowing us to exist so we can actually get the truth out to a lot of people. And it's driving them crazy that we can. So, and they can't shut us down because we don't have one billionaire donor. We have you guys. So if you can hit the join button or t.com slash team. Love you guys. All right, John. Okay. Let's, let's give them some news. We're going to jump into this. I want to go back to something you said on Tuesday. He said, I think all of us know the electoral college needs to go. But the campaign came

out later that night. And they said, that's not their stance. My position is the campaign's position. At least it is now because he made a sort of bold statement about the future perhaps of the electoral college and then maybe he didn't run it past them first and they don't agree so his position is rapidly changing and we're gonna try to catch you up. So what they're referring to there is that Tim Walls was at a closed door fundraiser at Gavin Newsom's private residence which is a sentence that will cause Anacusparian's head to explode. God only knows what happened there and who was there and how much money was raised, but anyway. And he had said at that point, I think all of us know the electoral college needs to go.

We need, we need national popular vote, but that's not the world we live in. So we need to win Beaver County, Pennsylvania. We need to be able to go into York, Pennsylvania, and win. We need to be in western Wisconsin and win. We need to be in Reno, Nevada, Nevada, and win. And by the way, as calls for the end of the electoral college goes, that was not exactly the most fire breathing. He's like, we all know that it should go in that direction. and we're going to provide you the evidence that yeah, most people do think that's the direction

we should go in, but he says that's not the world we live in. And then he laid out that we need to be able to compete in these areas. So like politically, it's a very pragmatic statement. But regardless, he is apparently backing off because a couple days ago, a campaign spokesperson said that Walls was, quote, commenting to a crowd of strong supporters about how the campaign is built to win 270 electoral votes, which is admittedly kind of what he was doing. they always try to like finesse away the point of the question. Yeah, he said that. He also talked about the electoral college. And so then the backtrack has to go into full effect,

and here it is. He said, I think all of us know, the electoral college needs to go. But the campaign came out later that night, and they said that's not their stance. Well, it's not the campaign's position. And the point I'm trying to make is that there's folks that feel every vote must count in every state. And I think some of folks feel that's not the case. Our campaign does that. And the point I'm saying is, I'm in five states in two days, we're out there making the case. The campaign's position is clear that that's not their position. Their position and my position is to make sure that everybody understands their vote, no matter what state they're in matters. So that's something that you and our president

Harris disagree on? I have spoken about it in the past that she's been very clear on this, and the campaign in my position is the campaign's position. Okay, so they're not pushing for it, which, as we're going to show you, maybe they should actually, because the polling is pretty clear. And also, do they disagree about it? Well, maybe now, if you broaden the timeline, they don't necessarily disagree. Because back in 2019, Harris said that she was open to the discussion around abolishing the electoral college. And when you ask the people, not that they matter, particularly in a country that has an electoral college, 63% say that the president should be elected according to the popular vote. 35% say the electoral

college. And look, I disagree with the 35%, but I do want to give them credit for taking a pragmatic position because I assume the vast majority of that 35% is a significant chunk of the Republican Party who realizes that this is the only chance they have of ever winning the presidency. So they better keep the electoral college because they're certainly not going to change to try to persuade people with new policies or new values or anything. They instead just game the system that is set up to benefit them, and they've done quite well over the past few decades with that. Anyway, it's not like it's gonna happen anytime soon anyway, but maybe having the conversation could at least show people that you agree with them a bit.

No, this is why I say, and I know they get offended because they're powerful and you're not allowed to criticize powerful people, but there's some intensely dumb people running this campaign. And remember, guys, in the beginning when she first came out, I said she was. doing a terrific job. Being biased against Kamala Harris doesn't make any sense at all. I'm gonna vote for Kamala Harris. I can't stand Donald Trump. I think he's a danger to everyone around him in the entire country. But when she was doing economically populous things, when she was picking Tim Walls, she was surging going up. You all saw it with your own eyes. So the boogeyman Jenks says something honest about Democrats, ah, but remember

when I was saying they were doing the right things and I was right. And her poll numbers went up dramatically. And she had the lead. Now she's losing the lead. And not losing, she's already lost the lead. So why would you say that you're for the electoral college and you're a Democrat? How does that make any sense? I literally cannot understand or fathom any logic to it.

So I'm stretching and stretching and I come up with, do they think they're going to offend Republican voters? in swing states who love the electoral college, but are going to vote for Kamala Harris? Is that a voter that exists? Is that a voter that exists? I mean, how brain dead do you have to be to think, oh, no, the Dick Cheney supporters in the suburbs, who are Republicans, love the electoral college, and they think it's an important part of our republic. But, you know what? But they're gonna vote for Kamala Harris. That's why we're saying raw, raw electric class if you don't know guys and look if you again if this is not your job it's not your job to know it but it is their job to know it Joe Biden barely won the electoral

college in 2020 by 43,000 votes in three swing states almost lost but in the popular vote he won by seven million in the popular vote he won by four and a half percent in this day in age four and a half percent is gigantic so because of of the Electoral College, the Democratic candidate is in a four to five point deficit when we start. That is not a democracy. It is like on the just principled ideological grounds. Of course you should be against the electoral college.

But if you're a Democrat, you have to be the dumbest person alive to say, oh yeah, I should have to win by five points in order to win. They should get a 7 million vote advantage for no apparent reason. Who are, like if I, look, if I was on in the campaign, some dumbass came up with this idea and made Tim Walls apologize and backtrack for having the logical and obviously correct position, I would fire that person in a second. Like, she has these morons left over from the Biden campaign that she had to adopt. Come on, fire them already.

For God's sake, fire them before they destroy this country by handing it. They were trying to hand it to Trump when Biden was the candidate. Now they're trying to hand him to Trump when Kamala Harris is a candidate. Fire them. Will you for God say get back to what was working? Say, you know what? Say jank is evil. Progressives are evil.

Bernie's evil. Say whatever the goddamn thing you want to say about us. But get back on the right track so that you have a chance of winning and apologizing for perfectly logical positions that two thirds of the country agrees with is not the right track, it's a dumb, dumb track. And so all they'll do is slide further down. Yeah, I mean, if you look at what makes and made Tim Wall so appealing is that he was very plain spoken and very populist and very positive, right? And if you look at what Tim Wall said in this interview with Michael Strayhan, it just sounded so convoluted and discombobulated. I actually

couldn't really understand what he was trying to say amidst at all. Why is that? Because Because actually, this is a wildly popular position amongst Americans. In fact, if you just look at what 65%, right, Americans want to abolish the electoral college, let's just look at what 65% of Americans want in terms of any policies. You think paid family leave would be part of it? Of course it would. Do you think ending our support of this genocidal set of actions that the state of Israel is engaging in would be there? Yes, it would.

So that gets to this other big question. Actually, I want to ask you both. Which is, what is the, well, we know why there is a disconnection between the political system and the views of Americans, despite the fact that mainstream media often kind of perverts and corrupts our understanding of the broader country. But what is it that actually lends these folks to make these calculations? Like, why would these folks in this campaign make the calculation that him making sort of an off-the-cuff remarks saying, yeah, the electoral college, we know it's like not the right thing.

longer term? Like, why would that be such danger to their political campaign? Like, are they just playing scared? Is that what it is? Or is there some internal polling around this? I mean, it's okay if we don't get into the details. But I think they're predisposed to fear. Yeah, I think that they're worried, they're worried that anything they say will fit into a narrative that the Harris campaign is too radical. They're trying to change things. Of course, it's also a objectively good thing that Harris has now considered the change candidate. Exactly. It would seem like proposing a big change that two thirds of the country likes might help you in that area. I'm assuming probably a good bit of corruption as well, but Jank, what do you think?

No, I know why. So one, look, not the brightest bulbs going to politics. I'm going to keep real with you. The guys who are at the top of their class go rob us all on Wall Street, right? And so these are the servants, basically, of the people on Wall Street. And the Wall Street guys give them money, and then they do as they're told. And it's relevant here, because why do they believe that these set of voters exist. They keep talking about Republicans in the suburbs. Republicans in the suburbs love Dick Cheney. They don't even love Dick Cheney.

Dick Cheney, when he left office, it was polling at 13%. How could you possibly think that that's a guy that you should wrap your arms around as they have for the last month? The reason they think that is because the donor class is almost all Republican light. Okay, they're either Republicans or Republican light. They're the donor class, hence they have an extraordinary amount of money, where they can give away $50,000 and not blink an eye, $500,000. $5 million and not blink at all.

So those folks think, oh my God, I love the wars that we started. Not all of them, but a lot of them. Oh, I love that we get on fair tax breaks, that's wonderful. I don't want you to do paid family leave. Paid left family leave to answer Remesh's question, polls at 84%. Tim Walls passed it in Minnesota. It made him incredibly popular. That's one of the reasons why you picked Tim Walls.

Why haven't they proposed paid family leave? It said 84%, 74% among Republicans. because their donors don't want them to. So if you're going to be ruled by the donors and you can do dumb things like, well, all the donors I know love Dick Cheney and all the donors I know loved electoral college, well, then you're going to lose. And then you're going to be thrilled with all the money that you raise and you broke all the records with all the money you raised, just like Hillary Clinton did.

And you're going to, you know, tell that to your kids and your grandkids because you're not going to be able to tell them that you were the president. They cannot see straight. The donors surround them and in their little bubble, they think, what, what? Everybody agrees. Anyone who doesn't agree must be a radical. Look, we've had one of our bestselling shirts that we've had for like five years is abolished the electoral college. Yeah.

Because you know why? Because every Democrat wants to buy it. That's bread. Shop to UIT.com. We'll have the link below. But seriously, telling your entire base, we're betraying you. and now we're pro electoral college so that we have to win by five points. I mean, your best case scenario is that you're preposterously stupid.

Your worst case scenarios, you surrounded yourself with so many Republican donors that you're never going to win another election because you can't cease straight. You're constantly trying to get 13 people in the country when there's millions of people who would vote for you if you did paid family leave, higher wages, etc. And as a result, there's a lack of a clear vision, a clarified, vision that this campaign has. It sounds like it's, and I would say the biggest political, obvious political critique we can raise about Harris right now, Harris and Walls, or Harris herself, is that she has unclear political vision, that she's changed her positions quite a few

times. And this just adds to that, in my opinion. We're to take our second break of the hour. When we come back, we're going to take a look at perhaps the fate of the Senate. Don't go anywhere. Back on the Ong-Kerkermission, John with you guys, make sure you're checking out damage report every day. And Gloria R. Gloria, thanks for hitting the join button below. We appreciate you so much. J. We'll see if you think it's fun.

But let's jump into it. Now the claims are getting even more bizarre. Marjorie Taylor Green, the Congresswoman from Georgia, is now saying the federal government is literally controlling the weather. We're controlling the weather. It's beyond ridiculous. It's so stupid. It's gotta stop.

Strong words from Joe Biden, it's gotta stop. Unfortunately, it probably won't because Marjorie Greene is making claims like that. And she is hardly alone. alone. Now, there are a number of Republicans that have called her out. Some of them have even put their names on their denunciations of Marjorie Green. But the conspiracy theories have gotten out there. You know, in many years ago, it would have just been 4chan or stormfront.org would have been spreading these things. But now you have enough elected officials and enough figures in the media that millions and millions of Americans just believe it. And that creates

unprecedented situations, including for the actual meteorologists who are reporting on this extreme weather. And many of them are now facing harassment and, in fact, death threats. And we want to talk to you about some of the experiences they've had. One is based in Michigan, Katie Nicolao. We talked with the Guardian about the messages she's been getting saying, I've had a bunch of people saying I created and steered the hurricane. There are people assuming we control the weather. I've had to point out that a hurricane has the energy of 10,000 nuclear bombs and we can't hope to control that, but it's taken a turn to more violent rhetoric, especially with people saying those who created Milton should be killed.

She's actually tried on social media to fact check some of the people posting on her page that those who made the hurricane should be killed. And as a fact check, you can't kill God, it's kind of his responsibility. But anyway, she goes on to say people have called me a plethora of curse words, people telling me to shut up and sit down, people who think it's okay to take out Doppler radar because they think it's controlling the weather, which if we could pause for a second is a crazy thing to believe. Obviously lasers are creating the hurricanes, not Doppler radar, you dummies. But anyway, it's very tiring, she says. And that last bit reminds me of when the

pandemic began to happen, people were really worried and conspiracy theories began to spread. And so you might recall that people were destroying 5G wireless towers because they believed that that wireless technology was giving them a virus. But don't worry, eventually they decided that it didn't matter if you got the virus. It wasn't worth even talking about, let alone doing anything about, but literally dozens of acts of arson across London and the rest of the UK happened as a result of that. And Katie, Nicolao, the meteorologist says stopping misinformation is an exhausting part of the job. It takes up a lot of their time, it affects mental health.

Another meteorologist says, you're working with two to three hours of sleep for multiple weeks under a high stress situation, and then you deal with these threats that come in, it'll beat you down. I believe he said he's gotten hundreds of messages. And this is a guy who's worked as a meteorologist for nearly five decades and has never seen anything like this. Like you might think, oh, I guess there's always been cooks. And you know, there's people to talk about conspiracy theories, but never at this level. It is getting worse and it's getting worse fast. So there's a thing called social contagion. It's real, like if sometimes in a certain area, suicides start, more suicides happen because people hear the news about it, right?

Unfortunately, we're worried that that's happening with school shooters and shooters, mass shooters overall in America, and right-wingers worry about it in understandable ways. Conservatives do about social media. And by the way, non-right-wingers also about social media and the social contagions that start there. And so has there always been lone nut jobs who think that the government is creating hurricanes and wants to destroy people with it with space lasers or whatever else. Yeah, of course, it's a country of 330 million people.

But when the Marjorie Taylor Greens and the Donald Trumps of the world encourage them and validate them, it then becomes a social contagion. And so they start more and more people start believing in and they're like, oh yeah, yeah, the government's obviously creating the hurricane to kill Republicans before an election, right? Right, of course, right, of course, right. But it also hits Democratic areas. No, it doesn't matter to the government.

And then they find one thing, and this is what happens with every conspiracy theory, right? Like with the Haitians eating the cats and dogs, they found one video from Ohio of cops saying this woman is eating a cat. And they're like, aha, except a woman wasn't Haitian. She was American. And it wasn't Springfield. But it doesn't matter. They only need one thing to confirm their bias. So in this case, can you do cloud seeding?

Yes. Aha! Hence the Jewish space laser government deep state clouds and said, no, not aha. Cloud seeding is a thing that is tiny. That's why the meteorologist is telling you it would take the power of 10,000 nuclear bombs to create a hurricane that large and move it in a direction that you would like. That is scientifically, utterly impossible. But when now scientists, all 100% of scientists say the same thing.

Now Republicans have been taught by the massive liars like Donald Trump. Oh, yes, I had this. Well, they know, they've been studying facts their whole life. But Bob on Facebook told me, Marjorie Taylor Green, the dumbest person in Congress told me. Oh, you go like this, woo, the deep say goes, woo to the clouds, woo, and it moves the clouds. I saw it, I said, cloud seating, a cloud seeding, 5G to tell us, now they're trying to murder Weatherman? I'm not a murder weatherman. Are you, I mean, and then they ask, hey, Jake, why don't you vote for Trump?

Like, because I, I can't stand the establishment. So I call out establishment Democrats, just as much as I call on establishment Republicans. So then Magger goes, oh well, then you're one of us, no brothers and sisters. As long as you're making up insane conspiracy theories and getting people so riled up that they're now harassing female workers who came to help you. But they'll go, no, I heard you're trying to seize my house. I'm not going to let them take more house. Trump told me, Vance told me,

my virginity queen told me, where's the weatherman? I'm going to kill him. He's the one that created this. No, I'm not going to join a lunatic party. There's your answer. Yeah, I'm thinking about it. No, I mean, a lot of this, it's a great point about social contagion. An interesting thing is like to identify where it starts, right?

It starts with skepticism and doubt about why the world may be the way it is, right? It could be skepticism about Pfizer and pharmaceutical companies in the case of COVID. It could be skepticism or just the inability to reckon with, you know, these unprecedentedly brutal off the charts off of any mathematical prediction model types of hurricanes and extreme weather events that we even get here in L.A. Like tropical rainstorms now, we get those, right? So it's like the contagion is just skepticism and so instead of sort of and and but then the answers are always attacking those who are actually not the ones behind any phenomenon that could be problematic, but are actually usually just like things like county health workers or weather people, weathermen, whatever you whatever we call it. And so at first when I saw this story, when I when I when I heard about it yesterday and then looked at it this morning, I was like, yeah. elites are not controlling the weather, but elites are creating climate change. So think about how mismatch that is, right?

All the rage, all the violence, all the brutality, all the unfair and baseless attacks will not be toward those who are actually creating these conditions. They're hidden from plain sight. I mean, they're in boardrooms. They're all around the planet. But it will be those who are actually trying to report on these issues for all of us. So it's sort of like, that's, I think, the first thing. And the second thing is, of course, we have to talk about the internet in all of this, right?

So like 5G networks are really problematic because of massive surveillance and the datification of our lives. I mean, that's another conversation, not for any sort of radioactive or health effects. But all of this is because on the internet, the most extreme and conspiratorial kinds of content often is the most visible. and therefore the most viral. We have a bazillionaire, one of the wealthiest people on the planet, who is a conspiracy theorist owning Axe in Elon Musk. He is a conspiracy theorist. And so therefore, the fringe becomes normalized and it becomes normal for all of us because

we can't reckon with why things are the way they are, because none of us have power. So people like Marjorie Taylor Green and others are grifters who enter into the middle of that situation to rile people up and drive us all insane and actually not. lead in any way to actually resolve any of these problems. Yeah, so rematch me such a great point. I just want to add one quick thing to it. So there's a reason why this doubt exists, exactly as he said, because our whole lives, the mainstream media and the establishment has been telling us the politicians are not corrupt, that they're not at all affected by the donor money. The donor money, when it comes to votes on legislation and policy, never makes a difference.

It's never mentioned in any article, and it's just disappeared. And so then, And people like, even if they don't know the details of that, in their bones, they know they're being lied to. And the minimum wage hasn't gone up in decades. And your wages have flat line over the last 50 years, even though productivity sky high. And everybody keeps telling you, oh, no, things are great. The stock market's great, which means rich people are having a fantastic time, right? And that'll trickle down to you several hundred years from now, et cetera.

So everybody's vomiting up these lies. But guys, we don't do what the other guys do. So like, I remember here, I'll give you a specific example from recently. So they say, oh, 5Gs and is somehow affecting the vaccine and it's in your blood and Bill Gates is going to track you. Meanwhile, Elon Musk is literally working on putting chips in people's brains. Yes. And they like Elon. And that's awesome.

Yeah, how is that awesome? How is that not tracking you? Anyway, but then people said, oh, Wuhan lab, no. The virus didn't come out of the Wuhan lab. It was a natural situation. I'm like really, one of the top virology labs in the world has a virus breakout right next to it and it didn't come from the lab. Less likely, less likely, right? But everybody in media was like, don't.

If you say it, you're a crazy conspiracy theorist. But wait a minute, now it turns out that is more likely that it came from the lab. But when you say that people are conspiracy theorists, when on things that they are not conspiracy theorists on, then they go, okay, they're all liars. and they're lying about everything, and they lose trust, and then they go to the fringes to try to find the answers, and anything that is against the establishment media and politicians. And that is part of what's driving the country crazy. And you will never see mainstream politicians or media admit that because they're one of the biggest sources of the problem in the first place.

I mean, calling out power and corruption can have a lot of a lot of heft to it if we have the evidence and the arguments to back it up. But on the internet, none of that matters. What matters the most is what will kind of rile you the most up and affect you, your brainstem, you know, your affectively affect you, right? Your emotion. So, so that's why it actually, none of these actions actually call out power, they harm even more powerless people. Yeah. Yeah. And last thing I'll say is, beware of anyone telling you that all the scientists in the world are wrong. It is very unlikely that that person is correct. Okay, so we got to go. Everybody check out Utopia's podcast, that's Ramesh's podcast, and

damage report. Look, just go down YouTube, just watch it. If you've never watched damage report, I know you're one of the seven people who happen in the world. Go at least check out a clip today on YouTube and then come back and watch it live every day. All right, we got a whole second hour coming up for you guys, including the polling that we were talking about. And some, you know, as always, good news, bad news, bad news. We'll be right back.