The Young Turks - Hotties 4 Harris?

Episode Date: August 2, 2024

Trump doubles down on Kamala Harris race attacks after wild NABJ appearance: ""Stone cold phony."" US and Russia are carrying out a massive prisoner swap that is expected to include Evan Gershkovich a...nd Paul Whelan. Al Jazeera journalists killed in reported Israeli airstrike in Gaza, network says. Conservatives are melting down over Megan Thee Stallion’s ""Hotties for Harris"" performance. " HOST: Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur), Francesca Fiorentini (@franifio) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ https://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER: ☞ https://www.twitter.com/theyoungturks INSTAGRAM: ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK: ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕 Merch: https://shoptyt.com ❤ Donate: http://www.tyt.com/go 🔗 Website: https://www.tyt.com 📱App: http://www.tyt.com/app 📬 Newsletters: https://www.tyt.com/newsletters/ If you want to watch more videos from TYT, consider subscribing to other channels in our network: The Watchlist https://www.youtube.com/watchlisttyt Indisputable with Dr. Rashad Richey https://www.youtube.com/indisputabletyt The Damage Report ▶ https://www.youtube.com/thedamagereport TYT Sports ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytsports The Conversation ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytconversation Rebel HQ ▶ https://www.youtube.com/rebelhq TYT Investigates ▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 All right, welcome to the young Turks live from the Polymarket Studio in L.A. Jake Cougar, Francesca, Furentina with you guys. Francesco, of course, the host of the Bituation Room, and that is a podcast in the TYT network. So we got a lot of stories for you guys today, of course, about the race, who's black, who's not. I'm going to agree with Matt Walsh for a second, but only for a second. You'll see why later, okay? And then later in the program, Jordan Yule and I debate, Josh Shapiro, should he be the VP pick? I say yes, Jordan says no, should be interesting.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Okay, Frannie, you're probably on his side is my guest. Yeah, obviously. No, no. Look, I can think for myself. I think neither of you are right. No, but you, I will say that Jordan a couple weeks ago on the damage report was actually pulling for Shapiro. So I don't know if he's an accurate representative of us non-Shapiro people. Interesting. Okay. All right. I'm glad I have that secret info. And by the way, later tonight after the young, Turks, I'll be on a Zoom call with Rashida Tili, Ilhan Omar, and so many others to try to defeat APEC. So I'll tell you more about that later. We'll give you the QR code to join and etc. But let's get started. Fannie, what's next? That's great. What's first? Oh, well, we got to do a lot of race science up top, of course, because it's Donald Trump. So let's start with this.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Do you believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is only on the ticket because she is a black woman? Well, I can say, no, I think it's maybe a little bit different. So I've known her a long time indirectly, not directly, very much. And she was always of Indian heritage, and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black. And now she wants to be known as black. Yes, she turned black. That was Donald Trump at the National Association of Black Journalists Annual Convention in what was
Starting point is 00:03:27 a disaster of an interview by any objective measure. There were a lot of parts. There was a reiteration of the black jobs line to many gasps. There was also the reiteration of the line that he has been the best president for Americans since Abraham Lincoln. So the fact that we're not showing you that part should tell you what a disaster is showing this was for the former president, Donald Trump. That part of questioning whether or not Vice President Kamala Harris is in fact black. Just up top, let's say, she is black. She is biracial.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Her father is Jamaican and her mother is the Indian. So there you go. You can be two things. I'm Chinese and Italian. You don't know how to hate on me. You can use both. But anyway, let's watch the complete exchange from that interview. Take a look.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Some of your own supporters, including Republicans on Capitol Hill have labeled Vice President Kamala Harris, who is the first black and Asian American woman to serve as vice president be on a major party ticket as a DEI hire. Is that acceptable language to you? And will you tell those Republicans and those supporters to stop it? How do you define DEI? Go ahead. Diversity, equity, inclusion?
Starting point is 00:04:45 Okay, yeah, go ahead. Is that what your definition? That is literally the words. Give me a definition then. Would you give me a definition of that? I didn't know she was black. a number of years ago when she happened to turn black, and now she wants to be known as black. So I don't know, is she Indian or is she black?
Starting point is 00:05:00 She has always identified as a black when she went to historically black college. I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because she was Indian all the way and then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went, she became a black person. Just to be clear, sir, do you believe that she is- I think somebody should look into that too when you ask a continue in a very hostile, nasty It's a direct question, sir. Do you believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is a DEI hire? I really don't know. I mean, I really don't know. Could be. There it was, everybody. That was the expanded thoughts. Again, birtherism in reverse outfitted for the year
Starting point is 00:05:39 2024, Donald Trump now claiming Kamala Harris, not black enough. And as I saw one person say, the way he says black should be illegal. Why is it sounds so weird coming out of his mouth? But Jenk, I'm gonna kick it to you. First, Obama was not, was so black that he was not even born in this country. Now Kamal Harris, not black enough. She's been Indian this whole time. Now she wants to be black. Surprised he didn't say she's from Norway or China. So, Puerto Rico. So guys, there's a lot of different parts of this story and I think it's very interesting might even determine elections in some ways so I'm gonna get to my thesis in a second on
Starting point is 00:06:28 whoever plays identity politics loses but first on the comments look Donald Trump is such a maniac that you lose track of the maniacal things he says that would eliminate any other politician in the midst of the videos that we just showed you he said I didn't know she was black Really? You didn't know she was black at all until a couple of years ago. You never even heard that. You hear you thought Kamala Harris is an Indian lady who wound up defeating me on the ticket when she was the vice president.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And then when she's vice president, oh my God, it turns out she's black. I didn't know that. Really? Really? Okay, he says such crazy things. And we just let it go because we assume, yeah, of course, the Republican nominee is a lunatic. And the Republicans know that, everybody knows that. And we just move on with our lives.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Okay, now in terms of like, is she Indian, is she black? Why is this that complicated? She's both. Come on, your little mind can handle that, right? Now, look, I know there's political reasons why he's doing, and I'm going to get to that. But okay, I mean, my, just like Frannie, my kids are half Asian, half Turkish. Are they Chinese or Turkish? They're pretending to be Chinese, and then they turn Turkish.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Okay, I don't, hey, maybe they were talking. to their Turkish relatives and they were, you know, empathizing with them and relating to them by talking about their Turkish heritage. And they were talking to other Chinese people. And they were talking, you know, relate to them on being Chinese because they're both. It's not that hard to understand. So guys, pull this picture up because I, so they, I went down this rabbit hole. They say that Kamala Harris's dad is actually Irish. That's their dad.
Starting point is 00:08:15 That's their dad. He ain't Irish, he's Jamaican. There's white people in Jamaica, right? So that's why I pulled up the picture. I was like, wait, is he? He's not, right, right. That's Donald Harris, by the way, everybody. So handsome guy.
Starting point is 00:08:31 But there's more I want to dig into, Jenk, on this conspiracies. Because let's just, before we fully jump in, let's just go to Laura Loomer, who of course is like hook line and sinker all in. She's not black. and actually pulled up Kamala Harris's birth certificate because again, we're back here and highlights, yeah, Donald Berkeley, not black. She says, she said this is proof that he's not black because he's Jamaican. She says, see, Kamala Harris's birth certificate below, which I have obtained nowhere in a birth certificate.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Does it say she's black or African? Kamala is a liar. Donald Trump is correct. Kamala Harris is not black and never has been. And then she contradicts herself and she's like, okay, Gamal Harris is the daughter of Donald J. Harris, who was born in Jamaica and Shemala, Gopalan Harris, from India. And then, of course, Trump shared that and all of this. But it is people were going with him on this. And by the way, Jank, before we like get too deep into the reactions to it, Trump thought he crushed the NABJ conference. Look, he truthed this right after it.
Starting point is 00:09:45 He said, he said the questions were rude and nasty, often in the form of a statement, but we crushed it. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. The spin, there's no spin. It's impossible to spin this. Again, people were actively groaning, right? This is a, I don't know, Jenk, who lied to him?
Starting point is 00:10:03 Like, we've all done gigs that were like, I'm not the right fit for this. But someone clearly lied to him about why he was even there in the first place and definitely didn't prep him. And by the way, he's referring to Rachel Scott, who's the ABC news reporter there, who was the host of the event. And she opened in part because of the pushback that NABJ got for even having Donald Trump there because of all the things he has said about black Americans and all the racist things that he has done. And she just brought receipts. She was like, why should you be here even though you have called, you know, black prosecutors, animals and thugs, you know, on and on and on, even though you question Barack Obama's birth in this country
Starting point is 00:10:45 and American citizenship, on and on and he just, janky, you saw it. He couldn't get over it for the entire interview. Yeah. So look, I have some authority on this issue, of course, since I'm Mr. Jamaica. Look, I didn't want to bring it up, but it is in the news. So seriously, I dated a Jamaican woman for over four years. I kid around about it because she won't Mr. Jamaica. I mean, did I say that out loud? Anyway, so you and, wow, that's huge. Yeah, well. Definitely would brag about that on national news.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Well, there you go, because it's so pertinent to the story. Okay, but seriously, I think it's so hilarious that Laura Lumer is like, on a birth certificate, it doesn't say she's black. It says she's Jamaican, got her. That's kind of like saying on their birth certificate, it doesn't say Asian, it says Japanese. Got her. What are you talking about? Japanese are generally speaking Asian. Jamaicans are generally speaking black. So this is not complicated. I mean, this is absurd. So why are they doing it? Now we get to the interesting part. So they have a couple of political
Starting point is 00:11:56 reasons why they do it. And remember, they ran this exact model in 2016 and did win. So don't get overconfident about, oh, it's definitely not going to work. It depends on how you react to it. So my theory is that American people do, generally speaking, do not like identity politics. And they don't like it if they're white. They don't like it if they're black, et cetera. Do some love it? Oh, of course, on both sides, right? But I think the great majority of the American people hate it.
Starting point is 00:12:22 So if the Democrats go out and react to this with, oh, Kamala Harris is a black woman. You have to vote for her because she's black. Now, they never say it quite like that, but do they heavily imply it often? Yes, okay? If they do that, I think they lose, but if they don't do that, and Kamala Harris didn't do that. She reacted really well to this, and she kind of laughed it off, and I think that's the right strategy and make them look like a fool, et cetera. And it's the Republicans playing identity politics going, oh, she's not black, and she's this and she's that, and she who shouldn't vote for her because of DEI and because of black and because of women. They're just alienating voters.
Starting point is 00:13:00 They're just throwing away voters. Let him just hand them rope, okay, hand them rope. And so look, a couple of more things on this, why are they doing it? They want to do it so that number one, they'll confuse some people, right? Because the average person isn't into politics that much, they only see headlines, etc. And will it work on some small subsection of people? It actually will. They'll go, ah, I don't know, I heard in the news that she wasn't black, I don't know. Because they just saw a headline for a second.
Starting point is 00:13:29 But that's not a huge group of people, it is some. But more importantly, they're trying to paint her as a phony, right? She, and does Kamala Harris do what they call code switching, right? Where she speaks in a certain way in front of one group and sometimes differently in front of another group. Yes, I think she does, okay? I think she should keep that to a minimum. Now having said that, do I speak differently sometimes in front of different people? Of course, I speak differently in front of my mom than I do in front of my friends when we're playing football, okay?
Starting point is 00:13:59 I speak differently in front of maybe a Turkish crowd and I'm going to try to relate to them in some way and, you know, and a non-dergers cry. It's on and on. This is normal, but you don't want to seem like a phony and you don't want to fall into any of these traps. So Kamala Harris should just be who she is. She doesn't have to be any particular way. There is no such thing as being black characteristically. Like, okay, you're only black if you do this, this or this. Or if you do that, you're not black. If you speak this way, you're not black. That's nonsense. Let the Republicans make those stupid-ass points, deflect, laugh at it, mock them, but do not fall into the trap of getting into a thing of, no, you got to vote for me based on my
Starting point is 00:14:46 ethnicity or my gender, et cetera. That's what happened last time in 2016, and that's part of why the Democrats lost. So so far, Kamala Harris, I think, has handled it really well, and I'm thrilled to see it, but but it's not as open and shut as we like to think because we think it's so unbelievably absurd. more broadly what this display was by Donald Trump was racist. It was race policing. It was questioning people's identities. And on top of that, he layered it in, again, with all the kinds of slights of hand that he's shown to the black community boasting about being as good as Abraham Lincoln, talking about black jobs. And then he was asked to define it. He was like,
Starting point is 00:15:48 it's a job that if you're, when a person has a job. And he just couldn't. So it's like he has nothing for the black community, despite the small percentage points that he was gaining with them, you know, earlier on in this election when Joe Biden was still in, he has lost that. And I think he demonstrated that. So I think more broadly, Jank, it's like, yeah, Americans don't like identity politics, but they also more than that, they don't like the hate. They don't like anyone who's going to be nasty and especially about someone's identity. And I think that give Americans a little bit of credit on that, like we don't like, you know, racial animosity out and out. His base loves it. I mean, anyone who's wearing khakis with a tiki torch,
Starting point is 00:16:31 like they absolutely eat that stuff up. But let's just put up some of his bleats recently. Crazy Kamala is saying she's Indian, not black. This is a big deal, stone cold phony. She uses everybody, including her racial identity. Then posting a family photo of her in traditional Indian, I think is a sari or a bindi, saying thank you, Kamala, for the nice picture you sent for many years ago. Your warmth, friendship and love of your Indian heritage are very much appreciated. This crap is not going to fly. This will not endear him to, I mean, definitely not black Americans, certainly not South Asian Americans, but also I think generally white Americans who don't identify with some of the grossest parts of Trump's, let's call it what it is, racism.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I do want to, however, move to the response from the right, because J.D. Vance was like, oh, that's a joke. It's great. It's funny. Anyway, J.D. Vance is absolutely on board. He has to be. But here is Tom Cotton attempting to explain away this performance at the NABJ. So I don't know. Is she Indian or is she black? You can defend those comments tonight? And he also said either either is fine. Both is fine. He loves African Americans. He love Indian Americans. He loves all Americans. The point is that we don't know where she stands politically because she spent her entire life as a dangerous San Francisco liberal. Yes, refocusing on the real identity to be upset about the San Francisco liberal.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Jank, at least that's a little bit more like, okay, we're getting her on place and political, like, bent. That's good. That's a step up. But others were not even able to do that. Here's a pundit Scott Jennings who just, I think, spoke some truth here. First of all, it almost sounded like he'd been thinking about this for a long time, and he'd rehearsed it in his head and that he finally came out with this new line of attack. But why? I don't know if I agree with that. Look, I, first of all, I think he deserves some points for showing up at this thing and giving it a go. Where's Kamala Harris today? Not there. But that having been said, he did crap to bed today. The only question is whether he's going to roll around in it or get
Starting point is 00:18:53 up and change his sheets. What do you think people? He's going to roll around. He just did. Jank, he tripled down. I think what's amazing now that Joe Biden is out of the race is that we see so clearly how much Donald Trump is losing it and how much he is incapable of making the most minor pivot to make himself slightly more palatable to the exact communities that he needs to be, right? Suburban women, African American voters, and he's incapable of doing that, again, regurgitating the same lines that he's been reamed for in the past. Before I kick it to you, I just want to look, former Trump administration official Amarosa, who's now been speaking out against him, and truly maybe one of my favorite former Trump officials, had this to say on CNN about how Trump himself has used his own identity and actually lied about his identity to get ahead.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Take a look. I want to get you back in, and I want you to respond as well, Bruce, to this point. I do want to play a clip from back in 2019, which predated, by the way, this discussion of, when she announced her heritage. Listen to this. I'm black and I'm proud of being black. And I was born black, I will die black. And I'm proud of being black.
Starting point is 00:20:14 And I'm not going to make any excuses for anybody because they don't understand. That's right. Omrosa, I wonder what your reaction has been to this statement that she's only pandering for political benefit. Well, I think I probably know Donald better better than anyone on this panel.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Forgive me if anyone thinks differently. But I recall in his book, The Art of the Deal, Laura, when Donald Trump identified himself as Swedish, right? Because he didn't want to acknowledge that his father was German and his mother was Irish. And he thought that that would play better to those who were patronizing his businesses. So can we call the question his past
Starting point is 00:20:58 of self-identifying as first Swedish, then German, And then Irish whenever it's convenient, Donald doesn't know the difference between ancestry and race. And that checks out. According to Axios, shortly after World War II, Donald Trump's father, Fred, falsely claimed the family was Swedish, hiding their German heritage to avoid any problem selling apartments to Jewish customers. The Boston Globe reported that last year, Donald Trump was still claiming Swedish heritage as latest as 87 book Art of the Deal, in which he writes that his grandfather came to the U.S. from Sweden. Jank, every accusation is a confession. The man has literally lied about his own white heritage in order to get ahead.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Yep. So look, this is a trap for either the Republicans that they just stepped into for themselves or for the Democrats, depending on how people react. So it's not wrong that that's from time to time Democratic politicians pander, to say the least. So you remember Hillary Clinton with the, oh, I carry hot sauce in my bag? No, you don't. Okay, and that's really embarrassing. Don't say that, right?
Starting point is 00:22:17 And she was trying to relate to the African American community, et cetera. Kamala Harris on Charlemagne the God Show, pretending that she listened to Snoop in college when he hadn't come out yet. Okay, so there's like, yeah, that, and I don't think that she's pretending to be black. I think what she's doing is pretending not to have gone to really great schools and grown up in the environment that she did. It doesn't, there is no such thing as being black, right, other than your actual race, right? So her race is definitely black. There's no question about that. And it bothers me when people imply and that being black is, means,
Starting point is 00:22:56 You come from a certain socioeconomic background or a certain educational background or you speak a certain way, et cetera. No, there's a giant range within every race, ethnicity, religion, et cetera. So these are all absurd conversations. But the trap is one that is easy to fall into because it's when you say you're not wrong. So Francesca said earlier that, you know, what he said is racist. And it's kind of inarguably the definition, right? So I understand why you're saying that, but I'm super glad that Kamala Harris and her team are not saying that. Because they want her to say that.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Because the minute you say that, you fall into their trap. Because what you have to do in politics is get people to identify with you, right? You want to be relatable. You want to be on their side. You're the leader who's going to protect them versus, you know, and so you have to be part of them. So when the Democrats say that someone is racist, unfortunately a lot of people in this country here is you're racist. Now they shouldn't hear that, they're not talking about them,
Starting point is 00:24:02 they're talking about Donald Trump, but unfortunately it's like an emotional trigger that happens. That's how you lose an election, don't do that. Whereas if you do the reverse and you go, look at Donald Trump trying to divide us on race. No, we're all Americans, and you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna unify us because it isn't about whether, you're black or Indian or both, which I am, it isn't whether you're white or this or that or whichever religion you are. It's about do you have higher wages? Do you have health care?
Starting point is 00:24:29 And are we going to be united to fight against the powerful interest in Washington? I know she's not really gonna fight against a powerful interest, but it would be good rhetoric, right? And so that way the us becomes all middle class and poor and average Americans, as opposed to fighting on, oh, okay, now black people come here and Indian people and then white people go here, you're gonna lose that one. Don't do that. And it doesn't play well. So don't give into the temptation of calling it racist. Laugh it off, make fun of them, and then unite, unite, and be the leader that they want you to be. And to your point, that's exactly what she said, and I don't, we don't have this graphic, but she said, quote,
Starting point is 00:25:11 it was the same old show, the divisiveness and the disrespect. The American people deserve a leader who tells the truth, who doesn't respond with hostility and anger when confronted by the facts, who deserve a leader who understands our differences do not divide us. They're an essential source of our strength. You're getting some of that Obama-ness. And remember, Obama absolutely did not play into the fact that he was black. Or also white in Trump's terms, although he never accused him of being white. But I know we have to take a break. Yep. So I take it back to you. Yeah, absolutely. All right, we got so much more coming up. So stay right. Right here, we'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I was valedictorian in college. Oh, well, I'm sorry. All right, back on TYJJank Francesca, with you guys, also Hank Overton, who just became our boss, and El Conejo Malo, also our boss, because they had the the join button. Paying members are who we work for. And One Love 83 and Chris Birch, thank you for gifting memberships on YouTube. Dave Schmidt 311. Thank you for gifting two memberships on Twitch. As always, you're the best brother. Franie, what's next? All right, let's jump right into this.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Four American citizens detained in Russia have just been released as part of a prisoner swap involving multiple nations. Among those now free, Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gerskovich and Marine veteran Paul Whalen. I want to show you now, a live look at an airport in Turkey where the exchange is believed to be taking place. Journalist Al-Su Kramasheva and Vladimir Karamurza, a pro-democracy advocate, have also been released. That is that runway in Turkey there. That's right. Today, four Americans who were held in Russia, including former Marine Paul Whelan and journalist for the Wall Street Journal Evan Gershkovich, have been released as a part of a massive prisoner swap.
Starting point is 00:27:12 In fact, the largest since the Cold War. It was the result of many, many years of negotiations, including six different countries, U.S., Russia, Belarus, Germany, among others. And the negotiations happened in Berlin. And there was a big holdout, or sorry, not happened in Berlin, but Berlin, Germany was holding out around Moscow's key demand, which was the release of Vadim Krasikov. And Krasikov is an assassin. He's a Russian assassin.
Starting point is 00:27:43 He was serving a life sentence for murdering a Chechen fighter in Germany, which is why he was held, being held for that life sentence in Germany. He was released as well. Eight people, including Krasikov, excuse me, were swapped back to Russia in exchange for the release of a total of 16 people who were held in Russian detention, including those four Americans. And again, more on Evan Gershkovich. Here's a photo of him. Again, he was the Wall Street Journal reporter. He had been detained since March of 2023, and he was convicted just this July of espionage. Prosecutors in Russia said he collected secret information about a military factory in Russia,
Starting point is 00:28:28 while on assignment from the CIA. But we all know how the justice system works in Russia, so not a lot to go on. The Wall Street General and White House obviously denied that he, was doing any such thing. Paul Whelan, who was held a lot longer, is a former Marine. He was detained in Russia since December 2018, convicted of spying and sentenced to 16 years. He was held at a Russian labor camp, IK17. Other people who were released by Russia include critics of Vladimir Putin, a permanent U.S. resident named Vladimir Karamorza and Russian-American journalist Al-Su Kermasheva, who was also freed.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Biden announced the deal. Today in a press conference, take a look. The deal that made this possible was a feat of diplomacy and friendship. Friendship. Multiple countries helped get this done. They joined a difficult complex negotiations at my request. All told, Russia has released 16 prisoners. Eight Russians were being held in the West will be sent home as well.
Starting point is 00:29:36 These 16 prisoners from Russia had that Russia has released. That Russia's relation include four Americans, five Germans, seven Russian citizens who are political prisoners in their own country. So there you have it. That was Biden today announcing that deal. I did just want to like juxtapose that with what Donald Trump had said during the debate. Yes, the infamous debate, which Biden's performance overshown everything that Trump was saying. But remember what Trump said about Gershkovich, which made it. it seemed like there was some sort of secret backdoor deal with Putin. Take a look. Now we have a hostage, a Wall Street Journal reporter. I think a good guy. And he's over there because Putin is laughing at this guy, probably asking for billions of dollars for the reporter.
Starting point is 00:30:26 I will have him out very quickly. As soon as I take office, before I take office, I said by literally, as soon as I win the election, I will have that reporter out. He should have had him out a long time ago. But Putin's probably asking for billions and billions of dollars because this guy pays it every time. But he didn't. He didn't. There was just diplomacy and negotiation. Jank, your thoughts. Yeah, I'm going to say something that people might think is off topic, but it's not. Don't go to these oppressive countries. They're going to kidnap you and they're going to exchange you for assassins. Like, not complicated. Now, in the case of having Gershkiewicz, he's a bit of a hero.
Starting point is 00:31:07 First of all, he's a reporter. So that was his job to go there and investigate the wrongdoing of the Russian government. And that is a very, very dangerous job. So he's also a hero because of how he handled this. Apparently on his way out, this is super badass. He said, now I'd like to do an interview with Vladimir Putin. They're like, what? You're being released.
Starting point is 00:31:28 He's like, I know, I'd like an interview with Putin. That's awesome. That is just awesome. So nice job of him, beautiful. Okay. But if you're a regular person, don't go to North Korea. Don't go to Russia. I'm sorry. I mean, this one depends on where you're from. But if you're Muslim, don't go to Israel, especially if you're a reporter. More on that later. And if you're
Starting point is 00:31:51 a Muslim who then became an atheist, don't go to the Gulf. Okay. So I'm keeping it real with you guys. If you guys are upset about that, sad day. I mean, I see people violating some weirdo moral codes that these Gulf countries have and then they get put in prison. I'm not going to live by your dumb ass moral codes. So no, I'm not going to go there and risk my life. Oh, the morality police didn't like it. Oh, in Israel. Oh, you're a person of Muslim background, a reporter who's been criticizing Israel. I don't want to get shot in the neck. Okay, this is not that complicated. So don't go to Russia. They're going to kidnap you and exchange you for an assassin. So I can't believe there's any tourism left to Russia. I know, but I just, I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:33 I totally, I hear what you're saying on like a flip level and I agree with you. And it's true and it's true about so many countries that are allies of the United States and also that are so-called foes of the United States, right, across the board. But then you think about someone like Brittany Griner who, yeah, was exchanged. And remember how the right freaked out they were because they hated Britney Griner because you happen to be an athlete and a black woman and a lesbian. She didn't fit their mold. Gershkovich. Oh, that's great. Wall Street Journal, white reporter, love him. But they hated it because they were also like, oh, you exchanged him for like a weapons dealer, right? A Russian weapons dealer who was eventually
Starting point is 00:33:06 released, but also like, let's remember, Brittany Granner was just trying to work. She also was trying to work. I mean, and, you know, she was trying to be a basketball player. She was working in Russia. That's where her job was. And she was had a minor amount of what it was cannabis oil on her. So like, I totally hear what you're saying, but like Shrine Abouakle, folks who are doing their job as journalist Gershkovich, someone's got to do some honest reporting, right? Oh, for sure. I think those reporters both in Gaza and in Russia are the bravest people in the world. Not like literally, very literally. And so I love that they're there. And if you have to do your job and you have to go to these countries, I get it. I'm just telling you just generally speaking, don't be naive and be like, oh, I bet Putin doesn't kidnap me and exchange me for an arms dealer.
Starting point is 00:33:55 He will, guaranteed, okay? He doesn't care if you're guilty or not. He doesn't care if you're a spy or not. I'm just trying to get people to understand the real world. So anyway, it puts every American president, whether Biden or Trump, in a very, very difficult situation. Because now you have to do an exchange. You can't leave them forever. It's totally unfair and unjust. But the only way you can do in exchange is some sort of money or give them back the worst people on earth that murdered people in the West. Right?
Starting point is 00:34:23 I hate that situation. That's why I'm trying to prevent it. One other random note here, Turkey helped in this process, as that's the way. they often do being near Russia, Iran, the Middle East, et cetera. Turkey is an incredibly important ally and the second largest military in NATO. The other day, Israel said, they should be kicked out of NATO, they offended us. Well, if they were kicked out of NATO and we ended our alliance because the Turkish leader slightly offended Israel, maybe this doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:34:54 So maybe you're not the boss of us and I offer you a tall glass of shut up juice here. as usual, the Israeli right wing government of Israel was preposterously wrong. Yeah, I just have a little bit of background. Also, Donald Trump could have negotiated to get Paul Whelan, again, the former Marine out of Moscow or Russia. But he declined specifically over in exchange for that arms dealer, Victor Bout, who then was swapped for Brittany Griner. I think this like playing, the level of like playing God with whose life is valued more than whose other life, I absolutely understand like an arms dealer is a bad dude versus Britney Griner who is literally just a basketball player.
Starting point is 00:35:42 But at the same time, I think like holding up negotiations because, you know, you don't like who they're offering or who they want released is sort of again like a weird playing God without really taking into account like just how awful penal colonies in Russia are and how serious and how important it is to release them to say nothing of the fact that it really does show that you can negotiate, that there's diplomacy. I mean, look, when I read this story immediately thought like, cool, now can we have some sort of light at the end of the tunnel in the Ukraine-Russia war? Like, is that possible to also know anyway? Can we roll out a red carpet And Putin can admit that he's, you know, that he's not going any further.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Yeah, last two things on it. So yeah, Trump, if you're such a great negotiator and you were going to get everybody out, why didn't you? You were president for four years. Why didn't you get Paul Whalen out? Why didn't you get out all the different people that we have that are prisoners throughout the world? He's such a liar.
Starting point is 00:36:41 He's so preposterous. Come on, guys. Get real on this stuff. So, all right, I'll leave it at that. On July 18th, get excited. This is big! For the summer's biggest adventure. I think I just smurf my pants.
Starting point is 00:37:06 That's a little too excited. Sorry! Smurfs. Only theaters July 18th. All right. Let's switch to this. Israel has killed two more journalists who were doing their jobs in Gaza, trying to report on the ongoing genocide there. These two were former, they were 27-year-olds and worked for Al Jazeera. Ismail Al-Gul and his cameraman Rami al-Rifi. They had been reporting for the last 10 months from Gaza. And they were explicitly covered. the assassination of Ismail Hainiyah, the leader of Hamas, by visiting where Hania was from, which was a refugee camp in the north of Gaza. Here is one of their colleagues, also of Al Jazeera, reporting on what happened to them.
Starting point is 00:38:07 They were directly targeted in a white car where they were killed, they were wearing their press jackets, they were covering the assassination of Sma'i al-Haniyah. They were on their way back from his house in Elshad refugee camp. And that's how the Israeli forces targeted them. So a reporter in Gaza who had actually spent much of the day with the two Al Jazeera crew members, told CNN on Wednesday he was 300 meters away from the missile that hit their vehicle. Again, that white vehicle that we're talking about, video from the scene shows the burnt out shell of a small saloon car that appears to have been targeted from
Starting point is 00:38:51 above. Al Ghul was wearing a press flak vest as their colleague said when he was killed. He had not seen his wife and two-year-old daughter Zayna, who were displaced in central Gaza in 10 months. He wrote on X in June, these days are not like any other. Zena began running, talking, asking questions. She was growing up without me seeing her. And just more about the character of Ismail. Here is his colleague who continues. I had this call with Ismail a couple of days ago and we were talking about helping Palestinians sick in the northern parts and trying to find a way to evacuate to the southern parts of the Gaza Strip. Ismail was not only a journalist but he was trying his best to help everyone in the north to help to find food for everyone in the north and he was just a very kind person and despite the fact that we did not see each other for 10 months. after being separated from the southern parts and the northern parts of the Gaza Strip,
Starting point is 00:39:52 were still in contact, talking to each other about everything and helping each other to air and to report about the Gaza Strip and this ongoing genocide. So you can hear the heartbreak in her voice. As of July, July 31st, at least 113 journalists and media workers have been killed since October in Gaza, 100, or excuse me, in Gaza and the occupied West Bank, 108 of whom were Palestinian. That's according to the committee to protect journalists. But, Jank, look, we have got a week of targeted strikes from Israel,
Starting point is 00:40:29 not just Hania in Tehran, but a leader of Hamas, but a Hezbollah leader in Beirut. And now to, you know, Al Jazeera press journalists, wearing their press jackets, it seems like Israel can do targeted strikes, if they want to. And yet we've got 40,000 plus civilians or people who've been killed in Gaza. Of course, Israel says they're mostly Hamas. It's just amazing how they can actually target people they want to kill when they want to.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Yeah. So I want to talk about the reporters first, then all their bombings throughout the Middle East. And I agree with Frannie on that point, and I think that's the connective tissue. So first on the reporters, Israel has killed more reporters in this war than any, all other countries in all other conflicts combined. And their main defenses are our military is totally incompetent. A bunch of morons can't ever hit the right target. They meant to hit terrorists. But golly gee, they hit the obvious white van with press all over the flak jackets and et cetera, et cetera. Like every time they hit someone super obviously press and they go, oh, golly gee, did we murder another journalist
Starting point is 00:41:44 trying to uncover our wrongdoing, they sound like the Russians. Oh, that was another journalist that fell out of their window. They just tripped. They tripped and a bathtub fell on them. Okay, if you believe them, you're just saying, okay, I don't care what's true. It just bothers me emotionally that the country I support is murdering journalists at a record pace. And so they're not doing it accidentally. Honestly, I mean, I'm trying so hard not to call worse adjectives, but you would be at a minimum enormously naive if you think the IDF accidentally killed more journalists than all other countries combined.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Okay, so it's preposterous. And that's why I say, look, I think tourism to Israel should be zero, none. They're in the middle of this war. They keep killing anyone who disagrees with them, anyone who uncovers anything. I mean, do you agree with everything Israel said? If you don't, and you go there, you're playing with your life. So, Derek, look, they say, oh, Israel's the only democracy in the Middle East. What do you mean democracy?
Starting point is 00:42:51 They imprisoned five and a half million Palestinians, and they've been doing it for nearly 60 years now. So it's a democracy inside Israel. It's a dictatorship in the occupied territories. So I'm not going to go to a dictatorial country who murders journalists and Muslims on the regular. Okay, so I would never go to Israel, as long as this run by these right wingers, this war is happening, or the occupation's happening. They're basically saying, if you try to cover us honestly, we will kill you. And Shereen Abuakle was assassinated. They shot her in the neck between her helmet and her flack jacket, which she had press credentials. Even America had to admit, yeah, that one's kind of awkward.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Doesn't, it looks like they murdered her, right? Because they obviously murdered her. They lied for like a year before about it. And they said it was Palestinian militant fire that killed her. She was in the Janine refugee camp. Again, covering the ongoing onslaught of the people in the West Bank, too, who are at the whim at the mercy of insane settler violence in addition to the IDF, in addition to the checkpoints,
Starting point is 00:44:01 in addition to the inability to live a normal life. So, yeah. And they just wait. They just wait for all the critics to just pipe down a little bit. And then they're like, oopsie, oopsie, we did do that. No, they do it on purpose. But you know, there's good news, Frannie, which is that, look, I've been covering this for a quarter of a century, right? And in the old days, which was all the way up until this particular conflict, you know, Israel would say, what do you mean? That's a dirty Arab. Of course they're a terrorist. And American media would go, dirty Arab, terrorist, not human. Don't worry about it. Obviously, it was an accident. They always miss. Israel always misses.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And the savages had it coming anyway, right? By the way, that Nanyahu speech was the most racist speech that's ever happened in Congress, where he's like, we are civilization. And the Muslims are uncivilized. So let join me together in murdering them, okay? Sickening. But these days, when you see those pictures for a lot of Americans, because we broke mainstream media's propaganda, They look at them and go, well, they do look like reporters and they do look like human beings. And it does look like Israel murdered them. Well, that's winning, at least in terms of being able to wake the American public up to how dictatorial and authoritarian and awful this current Israeli government is. Okay, so now let's talk about how they're trying to start a war and make us pay for it, both in blood and treasure.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So they say, well, Ismail Al-Haniyah, he's one of the leaders of Hamas. Of course we have to murder him. He's the one of the Hamas terrorists, the one of the leaders. Okay, I got you. You find him in Gaza. I get it. You're in the middle of a war. You're going to go assassinate someone in the middle of Iran and you don't think they're
Starting point is 00:45:50 going to retaliate? Or you think, who cares? I want him to retaliate. I just bombed Beirut. I just did an assassination in the middle of Tehran. How many other capitals do I have to kill people in? Before you get the memo, I'm trying to start a giant war in the Middle East, okay? And by the way, these same people would say, well, of course you killed the Hamas leaders.
Starting point is 00:46:11 And if Hamas had killed Ben Gavir or Smodrich or Netanyahu in the middle of Tel Aviv or Jerusalem, they say, oh my God, the bloody terrorist. How could they do this to our leaders? Well, you just did it to their leader. So which one is it? What's our standards here? So, look, all I want you to be. is principled. I don't mind whichever side you go on. If you say, hey, of course you should be
Starting point is 00:46:37 able to kill Hanian, of course you should be able to kill Netanyahu. They're both the leaders in this war, and that's not terrorism at all. And all of the cabinet of Israel is super fair game, and Hamas should be able to kill them no matter where they are. In America, in Iran, in Israel, it doesn't matter. Kill them, okay? We get it, and that's war. Or you say neither one should be able to do that. But if you tell me, no, Israel gets the murder, anyone they like, and in anywhere they like, they can bomb any country, they could do any assassination. But the other side, if they do dirty, savage terrorists, okay? Well, okay, you're just admitting you're a liar and a hypocrite, and you have no principles at all. So.
Starting point is 00:47:20 The last thing, I just want to add that, you know, Ismail Ahenea was actually one of the leaders who was working on a ceasefire deal with Israel. Of course. Yeah. And they killed him. Yeah. And by the way, that might not be an accident. So I know for like in American media, Hamas just means dirty savage, blood foaming at the mouth, et cetera. But within Hamas, there's of course a range. There's a spectrum as there is in the Israeli government. Not everyone is as fascist as Ben Gavir and Smutridge.
Starting point is 00:47:52 There's others that want to do peace in Israel, et cetera, right? And Hania was one of the moderates who was trying to get a ceasefire deal. But Nanyahu doesn't want a ceasefire deal. So all of a sudden, he assassinates a guy who was trying to get to a ceasefire deal in Tehran. So that way you end the ceasefire deal in Gaza, and you possibly provoke a war with Iran. And it doesn't matter because America's going to fight that war for you. Iran's too big. So that's the sick games that this current Israeli government is playing.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Yeah, and it's also the games they've been playing for decades, is to assassinate and kill the moderates. It's the reason that Netanyahu helped, you know, start and foment and fund what is now, Hamas. They love that. They want extremes. They want nobody who wants negotiation because it leads them just down this warpath. I wanted to finalize this by sharing some words from Ismail Al-Gul, who was one of the Al-Jazeera journalist, who was murdered by Israel. Because he wrote something really beautiful, and it was shared by the managing editor of Jazeera, who put this out on X. He says, let me tell you, my friend, I no longer know the taste of sleep.
Starting point is 00:48:58 The bodies of children and the screams of the injured and their blood-soaked images never leave my sight. The cries of mothers and the wailing of men who are missing their loved ones never fade my hearing. I can no longer bear the sound of children's voices from beneath the rubble, nor can I forget the energy and the power that reverberates at every moment turning into a nightmare. It is no longer easy for me to stand before the rows of coffins which are locked and extended or to see the dead people more than the living who are fighting death beneath their homes, finding a way out to safety and survival. I am tired, my friend. So rest in peace, is Malagul. Journalists should not be murdered. That is a war crime, the likes of which I hope
Starting point is 00:49:41 one day Israel answers for. Yes, let's take a break. We come back. I have at least one more story for you guys in this hour. We'll be right back. All right back on TYT, Jake and Francesco with you, but also these beautiful people who sign up through TYT.com slash team, Rhino 29, Honda 530, Dono D701, and M. something ass. Can't read all the handles. But thank you guys. We appreciate it. Frannie, what's next? All right, let's jump into this. All right, so you've heard of white dudes for Kamala, South Asians for Harris, childless cat ladies for Harris. And now that is rap artist Megan the Stallion,
Starting point is 00:51:06 introducing hotties for Harris. And of course, the right is so mad. Megan the Stallion performed at Kamala Harris' first campaign event, a massive event in Atlanta, Georgia. And it had a number of celebrities, including Megan the Salian, a Cuevo of Migos was there. I'm speaking about gun violence.
Starting point is 00:51:31 He is from Atlanta. And his nephew and fellow Migos, artist was murdered by gun violence, killed by gun violence. But anyway, that doesn't matter because here we go. Megan the Sallion, always triggering the right. Everyone is upset about that, including, of course, the guy who had to do his own version version of WAP and thinks that Megan the Stallion has a medical condition. If she does
Starting point is 00:51:58 have a WAP, Ben Shapiro. If you find this sort of thing attractive, then I, you know, I present it with the possibility of eight years, eight long years. Yes, eight long years of watching this incredible performer. Now, to talk about Megan at this event, I just want to explain, she didn't do a lot of twerking. She wore a suit and a jacket. Yeah, it was like a crop top, but like barely rained in and there was no cussing. She was like live editing herself on, uh, during the performance. There were no swears, um, which is pretty incredible. But of course, that didn't stop a lot of online right wingers.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And obviously Ben Shapiro there from saying things like this, Evan Kilgore saying hose for Harris, hood rats for Harris, um, single black mamalas for Kamala and white dudes for Harris. The left wing movement is pure ghetto trash. Anyone who watches his performance by Megan the Sallion and is sincerely moved to vote for Kamala should be deported. All the things, all the bigotry. The conservative duck then tweets, I love that after the rally Harris had featuring Megan the stallion hose for Harris is trending, but it's very interesting to see that Kamala Harris has to resort to a gyrating rapper to pull the crowds Trump can. Well, we'll see because Trump's going to be in that same arena this weekend.
Starting point is 00:53:21 So we'll see if he actually fills it to that extent. Okay, so they're mad. They're mad that there's a celebrity that's like performing for Kamala Harris. But then Matt Walsh, God, Matt Walsh, a man who with just the creepiest facial hair, a man who wants to know what a woman is, the man who's so obsessed with trans people, makes kind of a good point and it's devastating. He says on X, no for Republican. Kamala has all the big name entertainers on her side, all of them.
Starting point is 00:53:52 And she hasn't even pulled out the big guns yet. The Taylor Swift rally appearance will happen soon enough. Please do not try to counter this by parading around a bunch of washed up or obscure entertainers that nobody cares about. That just makes us look sad and irrelevant. Best to bow out of the celebrity competition and argue that we should focus on policy instead. It's the only hand we have to play. It can work, but you undermine it if you make fun of Megan the Stallion. And then two days later, start fangirling over some third-rate celebrity endorsing Trump.
Starting point is 00:54:22 We need consistent messaging on this. Okay, Matt, okay. But I think a certain blonde bombshell would like a word. Please play. But what happened last week when they took a shot at my hero? And they tried to kill the next president of the United States. Enough was enough. And I said, let Trump a mania run wild, brother, let Trumpa Media rule again.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Let Trumpomania make America great again. Are you telling me Taylor can't take Hulk Hogan, Gen Z, you all know who that is. Hulk Hogan. Hogan. okay um freddie don't make me defend the republicans here Hulk Hogan is a badass celebrity okay in the year 2024 well look when I was to do to prove your point when I was a kid I was a little Hulkomaniac so and that's been a while I didn't realize I was hitting a nerve there yeah I liked I had a Hulk Hogan action figure but come on yeah me too okay but it's been a minute
Starting point is 00:55:46 it. So seriously, that's probably the best celebrity they have. I think Matt Walsh is probably referring to guys like Ted Nugent and Roseanne Barr and like people washed up people who just come in. They're like, I just grab my pants, right? And like just weirdos, seeing crazy stuff as washed as washed gets. I mean, don't make me agree with Matt Walsh, but he's totally right. I mean, celebrities overall are embarrassing and they're never going to win that game. And they, and that's what it's so funny about it. They're like, oh, look at the Hollywood Lippers. I don't want George Clooney and Taylor Swift. They're like, oh, look, it's Ted Nugent.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Oh my God, it's James Woods. James W. Amber Rose. Jank, everybody knows Amber Rose, household name. Amber I dated Kanye Rose. Yeah. So it's, it's a sad, sad way of playing yourself. So yeah, unfortunately, I agree with the loss there.
Starting point is 00:56:39 All right, one more thing, which is that, look, this is, the Republicans falling into the trap that I talked about earlier in the show. They can't help themselves. So all you have to do is like put a black person up on stage, say, oh, I support Kamala Harris, Asian person, woman, trans, it doesn't matter. Put anyone that isn't like a straight white male on stage and have them say anything benign. Like, I kind of like Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 00:57:09 And what Republicans will do is, oh, yeah, do we hate Asians and stupid Asians for stupid Kamala? Oh, screw all you age. Well, dumbasses, you just did her job for her. You alienate every category there is because you can't help yourself. You see a black entertainer, and you can't help but say hoes for Harris. Right. So, okay, keep going, keep going, because this is a terrific way to lose the election. I mean, since Kamala Harris has come in and Joe Biden went out, it's been.
Starting point is 00:57:45 nothing but, you know, rising polls for Kamala Harris, the Democrats on a massive upswing, and the Republicans slip sliding away, just totally falling off a cliff because they're like, no, black woman, ah, right? So keep going, play that identity politics. See how it turns out for you. Yeah, it's so funny. Because, Jank, you and I go on peers occasionally, sadly, you know, we subject ourselves to that. And when I was on like the day after Kamala was like, you know, announced and Biden drops out. And they were like, okay, well just all he's got to do is stick to policy. We just stick to policy. Don't mention that she's a black woman. And he's going to be fine. And like two weeks later, you're like, oh boy, how did that work out? And it's also so funny because they don't want to stick to policy because then they have to talk about Project 2025 or I mean, agenda 47 or whatever we're rebanding it as and like, you know, firing a bunch of federal workers and replacing them with And it's like, okay, no, no, no policy. Go back to personal attacks. Oh, like, and you're so right about it. Kamala doesn't even have to talk about being a woman or a black woman. They're doing it for her. They're doing the job for for her of making themselves look like utter villains. 100%. I mean, maybe you'll get, you know, 17 bro votes on X by saying hose for Harris. But you're going to turn off millions of people. So here's some. rope, have fun. Yes, yes. Okay, we gotta go everybody to check out Bituation Room. That's on our podcasting network by Francesca. It's awesome, you're gonna love it. When we come back, we've got
Starting point is 00:59:24 so much more news for you guys, including at some point, Jordan and I apparently are going to debate who should be the vice president. I have a strong opinion. I did an op-ed backing Josh Harris, governor of Pennsylvania. I think that Jordan disagrees. Fun for everyone, all right? Shapiro, Shapiro, he's not adopted by the Harris family yet. I don't know. Maybe it's me wishing him onto the ticket, you know, but. Yeah, yeah, that's what you're doing. But yes, Josh Shapiro, sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Okay, all right, we'll be right back.

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