The Young Turks - ICE Guard Plows Through Crowd

Episode Date: August 16, 2019

An ICE official was filmed driving through a crowd of protesters. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh, Jesus. That's pretty good. Duncan Donuts, hello, call us already. All right. Well, with that said, let's get to the news. And unfortunately, we start off with some terrible news. You are watching a truck belonging to an ICE employee. who effectively attempted to run over protesters.

Luckily, no one was killed, but several of the protesters were struck by the truck and ended up going to the hospital. They had minor injuries and are expected to make a complete recovery. Now the protesters were part of never again action. This is a Jewish activist group that is trying to shut down some of these detention facilities that are keeping children and migrants in cages. They were specifically at a detention facility or a private prison that operates as a detention facility for migrants in Rhode Island.

And according to reports, several were struck, and that's according to the organizers of this Wednesday night demonstration at the Wyatt detention facility in Central Falls, Rhode Island. Some were treated at a hospital, though none were severely injured, as I mentioned earlier. The driver protesters say was a correctional officer employed by the privately run facility, Who was wearing a badge and a uniform, an assertion backed up by video of the incident. CBS also confirmed this. So lots to say about this. First of all, this is part of a problem when you have private prisons.

So is that guy accountable in any way to the government? Or is you just a private employee? You're still liable for criminal laws that you break, including running people over with your car. But it's a weird situation where the citizens are not allowed to enter. In fact, Rashida Talib was recently blocked from entering one of these facilities, and she's a United States representative, meant to represent all of us. So government officials in a democracy cannot enter some of these places, but they're run by private companies and their private employees then run over people on the street as they're

coming in. Is there any accountability? And, you know, as, and the second thing that I want to talk about is there's all this talk and Ann, I'll give you more details about what should be done, right? And they're still deliberating, debating. It's crazy. Should we arrest the guy? Should we not arrest the guy?

What are you talking about? The reverse the situation. Assume that there are some guards or cops that were sitting around somewhere and a civilian decided to run them over. Would we be having a debate? Would we have a deliberation? Should we or should we not arrest the guy who ran over the cops? Well, it's interesting because just to juxtapose the response to what this correctional

officer did to my experience in jury duty, I was a juror in a case where a woman was charged with assault with a deadly weapon. The deadly weapon in this case was her car. So she had gone to an office building to do something, and the parking situation was, you know, there's a parking attendant, you're supposed to pay at the end. And she didn't want to pay, the parking attendant didn't want her to leave. So he stood right behind her vehicle as she was trying to back up out of the parking spot.

And she didn't want to stop. So she went ahead and she backed up into him effectively injuring him and he had all these medical bills and all that. She was facing criminal charges for that and she was found guilty, right? So it's just fascinating how in almost every case, imaginable, there would be criminal charges. That person would have to stand trial. But in this case, you have a correctional officer who very purposely tried to run over these protesters and he was able to walk right into work after that.

Yeah, no consequences yet. I mean, if they don't charge him, it's just mind boggling. That just says, oh yeah, we can set up private corporations to take away other Americans' freedoms at any time that we won. Now they happen to be, in this case, detaining immigrants, but there's private prisons where they detain American citizens as well. And apparently their employees can do anything they like. I mean, the fact that he's not already arrested his mental, can we show the rest of the

video so that people can get a sense of what happened from there on, let's watch. So, same, shame, shame, shame, shame, so he's going to home. So the Attorney General in Rhode Island is saying that there is an investigation to figure out how to proceed and move forward with this, he should be arrested. immediately. I mean, this is assault with a deadly weapon. He could have killed people. There were children in that group. There was a disabled person in a wheelchair in that group. And by the way, we're all the, you know, free speech activists who cry when there are protests toward conservative speakers on college campuses. But when people are literally being run over for practicing their First Amendment rights, crickets, nothing, right?

Those same guys, by the way, I'm sure, are livid over Israel banning Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib for speaking out, just using their voice, right, Ben Shapiro, where are you at? Where are you at? Oh, you like to defend the fundamentalist right-wing governments anyway, you don't believe in free speech at all. We can go on and on with all their hypocrisy. But in this case, look, Heather Heyer was killed by a guy running over. Now, obviously that guy was going faster.

But no, you do not hit the gas pedal when there are people in front of your car. And if you think you're a tough guy, well, they should move. How about the guy in the wheelchair? I mean, he's super lucky that that it didn't, or how about a kid that you might not see in your truck, right? And they were in the crowd in a sense that that driver was very, very lucky that no one got seriously injured and very lucky that he hasn't been immediately arrested. This is preposterous.

Rhode Island, where's the goddamn investigation? Here, I did the investigation, I saw the video, he ran into them with his car, arrest him right now. Exactly. You know you would arrest him in a reverse situation, you know it as an absolute fact. And Rhode Island is a blue state, but still, oh my God, oh my God. Private prison guards. Oh, are they cops?

I don't know, who knows? Nobody knows, but it doesn't matter. They're deities, regular people, come on. By the way, now one of my favorite groups of all time is never again action. I love these guys. So they're like, look, look, we didn't stutter, okay? We said never again, and we didn't mean it just about us, we meant it about everybody. And so we're gonna come out here and we're gonna protect our own, which is fellow human beings.

God, I love this group. Yeah, they're very pro-human, which I wish, you know, you can say about right-wingers in America, but you can't these days. One other thing I wanted to add, though, is, you know, you mentioned Rhode Island being a blue state. You know, Rhode Island was one of a handful of states that tried to pass legislation that would make it easy for people to run over protesters who are blocking roads, right? Now, that bill went nowhere because it's criminal to try to kill someone because they're blocking a road. But there were Democrats in the state legislature that signed on to that legislation. So just something to keep in mind.

Rhode Island don't look at it and say, oh, it's a blue state, so it's more reasonable. It's actually not when it comes to some of the proposed legislation. Now, to add insult to injury, the protesters were met with more brutality following this incident. Take a look. I got it. Help me. Help me. You're getting free.

And that's the case. I got pepper sprayed. I know I didn't. Please help me. So they get pepper sprayed and according to multiple accounts, the police just stood there and allowed it to happen. Well, of course they did. So that's not an insult injury, that's injury to injury. Yeah.

So, oh, okay, they did. Oh, the cops are on the scene, don't worry guys. And the guards are on the scene. This guy obviously tried to commit assault with a deadly weapon. They're here to open the gate for him and pepper spray the guys he tried to run over, including the kids. Do we have any rule of law in this country? Rule of law is not meant to be the powerful get to crush everyone else and imprison them

and take their property and do whatever the hell they want. Rule law is supposed to be that we all have justice and we're all treated equally. Does it look like that to anyone in this country anymore? So it's gross. And I just want to emphasize, whenever you hear arguments on the right about how the left is violent, and they always cite Antifa, just remember the mounting evidence that indicates that the right is violent, right? There's the murder of Heather Heyer, there's multiple right wing mass shootings in the country

that have happened under Trump's watch, some of them even influenced by Trump's rhetoric. And then you have, you know, this case where a correctional officer tries to run over and effectively murder, tries to murder people who are practicing their First Amendment rights. I mean, how much more evidence do you want? When they accuse the left of being violent, it is the classic case of projection. Again, there's multiple instances where they've used violence, multiple instances where they've literally killed people. They're the violent ones, and they're the ones who make excuses for their violence while

pointing fingers at Antifa at the same time. Just keeping it real. 100%. All right, let's move on to Philly, Philadelphia. No, no, no. This is in the house. We hit. That video

That video comes from Philadelphia where six police officers were wounded by gunshots during a lengthy standoff. It lasted about eight hours between themselves and an armed man. They were trying to serve the man with a narcotics warrant, and they were met with gunfire. So, Jenk, do you want to jump in? Yeah, so this is something we say often on the show and not just when there's cop shootings.

In fact, when cops shoot folks, we often talk about, look, one of the reasons that they're on hair trigger is because everybody's armed. So I still think that the training needs vast improvements, but we have said on many occasions, On the other hand, everybody's got guns. So can you really blame the cops for immediately thinking that their lives are in danger? Now when they find out their lives are not in danger in some of the situations that we've covered, well, that's a different fact scenario and then they should de-escalate. In this case, shots were fired immediately.

And so, in fact, they showed great restraint here. The guy actually surrendered eventually and was taken alive, even though six cops were shot. And luckily, no one died. The police did get wounded, six of them did get wounded. They went to the hospital, many of them have already been released and they're expected to make a full recovery. But yeah, you're right, Jank. I mean, this is a situation where they're dealing with someone opening fire and they did

show incredible restraint. Two of the police officers were inside the home while this was happening and it lasted eight hours. Luckily they were able to save those two police officers. So let's go to the graphics. The New York Times reported that Sergeant Eric Grip of the Philadelphia Police Department said on Twitter that two officers had been inside the house and had been safely evacuated. Police Commissioner Richard Ross said that the gunfire had broken out as officers were moving toward the kitchen in the back of the house.

They returned fire and some jumped out of the window to escape a barrage of bullets. And finally, the gunman did have a record. He had an extensive criminal history and had opened fire on every officer who had responded, including the commissioner and a SWAT team vehicle. A SWAT was necessary to help save the two cops that were inside the house. Yeah, that's a very serious and dangerous situation with a guy who's obviously a pretty decent shot because he hits six of the officers. Look, a lot of the stories are harrowing, of course.

One of the bullets grazed an officer's head just a couple of inches south. And then he's got two kids. They don't have a dad anymore. So, of course, the cops fired back and no one is against that in a situation like this. But once again, though, when it came time for him to surrender, they took him in peacefully. And so great job by the cops overall, but maybe we shouldn't have 300 million guns in the country. Well, you're not the only one saying that. Several Democratic candidates for president have said the same.

And the mayor of Philadelphia has spoken out. Let's go to his statements. Our officers need help. They need help. They need help with gun control. They need help with keeping these weapons out of these people's hands. And then I've told you earlier, the two little boys that were, the officer had his head grazed just a little bit more. And those two little boys will grow up and out with their dad.

Because some, because this government, both a little federal and states level, don't want to do anything about getting these guns off the streets and getting them out of the hands of criminals. This guy is clearly a criminal. He was, he is a criminal. And he was, he had apparently a long record, which I'm not sure if I don't have in front of me, but has been involved in the criminal justice before. And he was able to get these weapons and a large magazine, a large amount of bullets, whether it's whether it's our six officers who were shot or it's some 15, 17, 20 year old kid on the streets of Philadelphia who get shot with guns that shouldn't be in people's hands. And it's aggravating, it's saddening, and it's just something that we need to do something about. Yeah. So good report by CBS there. I want to point out that federal background checks, you know, you've heard me probably

say it a million times if you watch the show regularly. The latest poll has it at 90%. We showed you a 94% we've shown you a 97% poll. It is massively popular, as popular as any program in the country, we don't have it. So criminals can just, it's a loophole. They can just go to a gun show and not have to show any kind of check at all, no background check and walk away with any kind of weapon they want. So it's an absolute outrage.

It is the bare minimum we could do. And almost all Americans agree to it, almost all gun owners agree to it. The only people who don't agree to it are the people who sell guns. And of course they're the major donors to the NRA and NRA is the major donors to the Republican Party. So when they talk about the Fox News of the world, and we'll get to them a second, talk about Oh my God, Chicago, Chicago, so violent, it's all Chicago, right? Well, of course, we know what they're doing.

It's coded language for it's all black people's fault. No, if you have three, I mean, think about it, guys. We have 250 to 300 million guns in the country. That is an insane number. And so in this sea of guns, can good guys get guns and do bad things with them? Yes. Can bad guys get guns? Super easy, super easy.

Oh, well, Chicago is gun control, are you kidding me? Okay, so you step one foot out. foot outside of Chicago, you set one foot outside of Illinois, you can get all the guns in the world that you want. So these preposterous arguments, it's the guns, stupid. Now, following a shootout that led to six Philly police officers getting wounded, there were multiple calls for gun control. Almost every Democratic candidate for president called for gun control.

The mayor of Philadelphia called for gun control. And then you have Jesse Waters and people like him on four. Fox News, feeling outraged, having a complete meltdown over these calls for gun control. By the way, polls indicate that the majority of Americans want more gun control. And I'll get to that in just a second. But before I do so, let's hear this ridiculous argument from Jesse Waters. Just didn't really strike the right tone there. You know, when she did that, I sent out a tweet.

They don't give a damn about those cops. It's all about politics for her and the other Democrats. It's all about politics. The bottom line is, that's reckless. it's irresponsible, shouldn't have happened, shouldn't happen in the future, but it will continue to happen because that's all they care about. So that's a former police commissioner who's actually convicted felon. So hearing him talk about anything is ridiculous.

Taking him as a credible source of information is ridiculous. But with that said, I do want to go to the next video, and this is where Jesse Waters shares his outrage over calls for gun control. This all goes back, not to guns, in my opinion, Dan. This is about narcotics. This is about cartels sending massive quantities of narcotics into North Philadelphia, whether it's PCP or heroin, crack cocaine, opioids. They flood this region, they give it to the gang leaders who then distribute it in the neighborhood

and then can run it up and down the East Coast corridors. And they have to have these weapons to protect the product. To blame this on guns, like this guy with the AR, the handgunned, you know, didn't go through a background check is crazy. And I think everybody needs to focus on what the real issue here is. Yeah, I mean, kind of throw a tip out there for the Democratic presidential candidates. Maybe shut your pie holes for about five minutes and let the cops. I'm dead serious.

Like, let the cops on the ground, like get this guy, this maniac out of the building. And let's get the cops out of the hospital before we start tweeting about our next brilliant gun control plan. So why is he so anti-cop? Is he in favor of arming as many people as possible? The answer to that is absolutely. Dan Bongino, Bernie Carrick, Jesse Waters, to them, I guess blue lives don't matter. So they say, well, I mean, who cares?

Just let everybody have guns. Oh, well, you know, the guys with narcotics. That's, you know, the problem is the narcotics. Yeah, it's true. This guy actually threw cocaine in all the cop's faces and that's how they got injured. Oh, no, right. He didn't. He fired bullets at him from a gun.

So yes, there are a list of trades in the country, there are criminals in the country. You know what's a super bad idea? Having loopholes, like not having federal background checks, so they can all buy weapons. Super easy, which is what Jesse Waters wants. And Dan Bongino, who worked at the failed NRA TV, that loser wants all of everybody in the country weaponized, and then cops get shot more easily. So that's on him completely. And oh, Dan, spare me your advice for Democratic candidates, okay?

Oh, wow, should they listen to a jackass who worked for the NRA? I bet that'll get him a lot of votes in a Democratic primary or in a general election. You guys are deeply, deeply unpopular. You're losers through and through, and now you're getting cops killed on top. But no, no, no, no, I gotta sell more weapons. How did Dan collect all those checks when he worked at NRI TV? Well, the more weapons they sell, the more they, the bigger check they can get. to Dan.

So, hey, six cops get a shot. That's not Dan's problem. He got his checks. That's exactly. He got his checks. That's all he cares about. Exactly. And I want to just quickly go back to what Jesse Waters said in his argument.

He says, no, it's not about the guns, we don't need gun control, this is all about the drug cartels. Oh, okay, so when two mass shootings happened 13 hours apart from each other a few weeks ago, was that because of drug cartels? Because those two white men were not part of drug cartels, they weren't trafficking drugs. They might have been smoking pot or something, I don't know, but it had nothing to do with drugs whatsoever. You're right, it is the guns 100%.

And the majority of Americans realize that. 90% of Americans want federal background checks without all these loopholes. Fox doesn't. Fox doesn't want federal background checks because they don't mind cops getting shot. They say, oh, criminals, you want to go get an easy loophole, go get it from a gun show? Yeah, do that. And who cares if the criminals get it? The cartels get it?

Jesse Waters is super happy. Dan Bongino is super happy. They're like, I don't want any regulation at all. You know what cops are? They enforce the law. Another word for that is regulation. We have regulations and rules and laws throughout the country, and cops enforce them. But Bongino and all the rest of them on Fox News hate rules and regulations and laws.

So then cops get shot because guys bought him illegal weapons and legal weapons. There's almost, you know, the background checks and nonsense, the assault weapons that shoots more people at one time, what's the connective tissue here? Whether it's Islamic extremists, white supremacist extremists, criminals, cartel guys, et cetera. Are they all going around trying to hang people? Are they all attacking them with, you know, lawnmowers or knives? No, the connective tissue is weapons, guns, but all these guys make money off of it. So they're like, look away, look away, don't talk about it.

Don't talk about it. If they think it's an Islamic extremist attack, do they wait until people are out of the hospital? That was the rule that he said, right? No. They don't even wait until the perpetrator has been identified. Yeah, they immediately jump. He's like, it's the Muslims! It's the Muslims!

How about the weapon that the Muslim used? No, no, no, that one's okay. The actual bullets he fired from the gun he fired are awesome. The real problem was the Muslim. Okay, well, then how about the white extremists who fired? No, no, the white extremists is also okay, and the gun is okay. How about the dead people? Ah, it just magically happened, magically, lone wolf, nothing you could do, everybody throw

up your hands, checks, we got the checks, NRA, checks still coming in? Great, wonderful, right? That's how these sons of bitches run. By the way, Bernie Kirk is a literal criminal. Yes. Maybe that's why they want to make sure criminals can still get their hands on guns. Yeah, that's true. I don't know if he's allowed to carry a weapon, he's a felon.

So he, let me give you more information on that because, again, Fox News loves to reward bad people and bad behavior. In 2009, he pleaded guilty to tax fraud, all sorts of financial crimes. And so he gets out of prison. He served four years behind bars. He gets out of prison and gets a job as a contributor on Fox News. It's amazing. Mark Furman, one of the worst cops in American history, at least as among the cops that

we know of him, he's infamous. He's the guy that was exposed during the OJ Simpson. trial as purposely beating up black people for being black, planting evidence, bragging about it, calling them the N-word endlessly as he assaulted innocent African Americans, one after another. I mean, one of the worst guys in America, in Fox News, as soon as all that is done, they're like, oh, great, one of the worst racist cops in the country, one of the worst racist people in the country is available, they made him an expert and paid him a lot of money.

And then Bernie Carrick comes out of prison, they're like, great, another criminal, another thug! That's all we do at Fox News, and who's the main thug that they support? The president, Donald Trump, a well-known felon, a guy who clearly did obstruction of justice, clearly did the campaign finance violations, has broken dozens of laws. But since he's rich, and we have a two-tier system in this country, never held accountable, not a hell to be accountable by even the Democrats now. And so they're like, well, that's a thug that seems to break the law all the time. But that's what Fox News is for.

So, I mean, hiring Carrick, you know what Carrick did other than the criminal actions? He rented an apartment in downtown New York City that was supposed to be for cops recuperating after helping with a cleanup of 9-11. But he didn't give it to the cops, he used it to have sex with his mistress. That's who Bernie Carrick is. And the Roger Ails of the world, back when he was alive, saw guys like Bernie Carrick was like, well, you and I see a disgusting, filthy criminal, Roger Ailes sees a compatriot. He's like, oh my God, that's what I, that's genius using the apartment meant to help other people

to have sex with women you're not supposed to have sex with. Roger Ayles must have high-fived him as he handed him the check to be an expert. Now still, after Ailes, they still bring out all these thugs and criminals on the Fox News to say, well, I mean, even if you're shooting cops, it's not that big a deal, don't worry about the guns. And whatever you do, don't make it political because that might actually solve the problem. All right, we gotta take a break. When we come back though, a shocking Fox News poll about Donald Trump.

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and entertained all at the same time. All right, back on a young Turks guys, the beard writes in, whoop, whoop, Anna's back. Yeah. So that's fun. Dr. KS.M.D. has an interesting point. He says, in a reverse situation where a citizen drove into cops, there would be no arrests Since you can't arrest people who have been shot to death. That almost certainly would happen.

If you ran into cops with your truck, you're not getting out of that truck. Okay, so Pilgrim says if that was a standing around state, the protesters could have shot and killed that driver. I wonder if they would have gotten away with that. I'll tell you that you don't have to wander. There's no way they would have gotten away with it. And Aqualad says, I'm as liberal as the next guy, but what are they supposed to do to get the protesters to move if they won't move?

As much as we made to test the guy's job, he has to get to work and they're probably blocking entry to a government facility. Should they have been pepper sprayed? No, but I think this is a less clear cut case than apparently everyone else does. No, listen, brother, I hear you, but there's a thousand ways around it. So you can call in and go, guys, they're blocking the gate. So what am I supposed to do? Should I park outside?

Is there a way to, is it legal or illegal? If it's illegal, technically, can the cops remove them? If they can't remove them, what else can we do? There's a thousand options before you get to run them over with your truck, okay? And last one is Omega Res Sigma Infinity Prodeus says, I almost want to know the race of this person referring to Philadelphia, I'd have a hard time believing he was black. He was black. So like I said, the cops showed restraint, bless their hearts, and in a situation where they

didn't necessarily have to. So good work there, and so let's call it as it is. All right. All right. In a shocking Fox News poll, respondents overwhelmingly indicated that Trump is at least partially to blame for some of the mass shootings that have recently occurred in the United States. Now the poll specifically asked, quote, how much do you think each of the following is to blame for mass shootings in the United States over the last few years?

Now 34% said they blamed sentiments expressed by President Trump for gun massacres a great deal, while another 22% said that they blame Trump's rhetoric, some, for mass shootings. So the majority, if you combine those two numbers, do think that Trump is to blame, at least partially to blame. Now, look, they almost always ask it this way, you see, someone to blame all the way to blame, not at all to blame, mostly not at fault, et cetera. And then they combine the numbers as they should. And I'll do the math for you, 56% of Americans say that the president is somewhat responsible or greatly responsible for mass shootings. Look, you gotta let that sink in.

I know we're used to Trump being a maniac and people knowing that he's a maniac. But the fact that 56% of Americans think that the president is responsible for mass shootings is a stunning, unbelievable number pre-Trump. I mean, I can't imagine that number would have been anywhere, anywhere near 50% under any other president. And so, and by the way, they're right. And so this is part of what I'm saying, guys. There's this like this feeling that, oh, it's Teflon Don and Donald Trump, you got to watch

out for him, he's politically savvy. And Democrats, you should run from him because he won the last election. No, we've gone over this a thousand times, he's deeply, deeply unpopular when 56% percent the country thinks that you might be responsible for mass shootings, you're not going to want an election. All we got to do is have a progressive, and we will mull him. The only thing you got to do is not make the same mistake as you did in 2016. Put up an establishment candidate that says, I love the status quo.

That's the only way Democrats can lose. So the only demographic that really pulled that number down to 56, and that's still a majority, but still 56, is the Republican demographic, right? So I'm gonna give you those numbers in just a second. But first, among Democrats, unsurprisingly, 87% blamed Trump to some degree, along with 50% of independent voters. I wish the number were a little higher with independent voters, but I'll take it. When it came to Republicans, though, only one in five Republicans laid some of the blame

for mass shootings at Trump's feet. But still, guys, that's 20% of Republicans saying, yeah, the Republican president is responsible for massacres. That's actually an enormously high number. I mean, in a normal situation, that number should be close to 0%. But even 20% of Republicans are like, dude, it's obviously him. He's the one saying, hey, you got to go get the Hispanics. It's a Hispanic invasion.

Go get to Hispanics. And then some guy goes and gets the Hispanics and kills 22 people in El Paso wounds 24. Even Republicans can see it. And by the way, the poll also asked about gun control legislation and whether the respondents want to see more gun control. So support for an assault weapons ban actually jumped seven points from the last time Fox polled the question from 60% in April, which by the way is pretty high to 67% in the more recent poll. And also 59% of Americans think Trump is tearing the country apart, including 59% of independent voters.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, look at that last number. The Democrats oftentimes are cowering from Donald Trump. Oh no, no, we don't want to do impeachment. Oh, my God, Donald Trump, he's going to kick our ass. Oh, my God. 59% of the country thinks that he's ripping the country apart. That is a way of phrasing it that's meant to get you to answer no. But still, six out of ten Americans say, oh, no, no, he is.

He's ripping his apart. He's deeply, deeply, deeply unpopular. The most unpopular president of our lifetimes easily. And George Bush was also horribly unpopular. And he's beaten George Bush. Can you sense a pattern here at all? But still Democrats are like, and on the issue of the assault weapons ban.

Yeah, I mean, Democrats talk about it, et cetera, and they've passed in the past to be fair to them. But 67% of the country, two-thirds, always the same number. You'll see it in poll after poll after poll. Two-thirds of the country is progressive, okay? The new BMO, V-I-Porter MasterCard, is your ticket to more. More perks, more points, more flights, more of all the things you want in a travel rewards card, and then some. Get your ticket to more with the new BMO ViPorter MasterCard and get up to $2,400 in value in your first 13 months.

Terms and conditions apply. Visit BMO.com slash ViPorter to learn more. 100% in our Fox News poll go, yeah, ban, ban assault weapons. Let me turn to the Republicans, who are the main monsters in this case. They're all corrupt. They all say, no, I don't care if 67% want it. On federal background checks, 90% to 97% of the country wants it. I don't care, I don't care, I'm not gonna do any of it.

That's what the entirety of the National Republican Party says. So they're all corrupt, okay? But Pat Toomey the other day in Pennsylvania, Republican Senator from Pennsylvania, was a massive right winger when he first came in. Now the other people are such lunatics, they're calling him a moderate, absurd, absurd. Right? So what did Pat Toomey say? He said, oh no, we can't do anything about that because assault weapon ban is, no, he

said assault weapons are so popular in Pennsylvania. That's not remotely true, not remotely true. They even did a poll in Pennsylvania, 68% want to ban it in Pennsylvania, even higher than the national average. Republicans liars through and through. Yeah, and by the way, I mean, under that reasoning, right, so if something is popular, It means you just allow anyone to get it. For the longest time, we knew marijuana was popular that most people, not most people,

but a lot of people used it and they still push for this prohibition. Yeah. Like they're so ridiculous. There's so, I mean look, call it what it is, they're full of crap, they're giant hypocrites. Yeah, marijuana enormously popular. No, no, no, you can't have it, you can't have it. Oh, bullets, weapons, weapons that could fire and murder people super easily, super quickly.

Oh yeah, that's really popular, yeah, we should let that happen. Because are popular, but marijuana's not popular. Who believes Republicans anymore? I mean, really, the only thing propping them up is the mainstream media. Because the mainstream media says, hey, everything's even, everything's even. I can't tell. Is it popular? Is it not popular?

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I-Hart Mariguana, right, sent from the member section. And Democrats need to quit cowering in the corner and finds a balls to stand up to dump and his followers, I guess that's what progressors are for. That's right. If they don't want to do the job, step aside. We got this, butch. And then over on Twitter, where you can talk to us using hashtag TYT Live, Mark Halegoa writes in, keep harboring on the fact that politicians are on the payroll of the NRA and gunmakers.

Media is owned by corporations and corporations may own gunmakers. So look, the thing about the media is there's conventional wisdom and it is like a, it's, they've built a wall around mainstream media of right wing talking points. And we keep chipping away at it, chipping away at it. And sometimes we've broken through. We broke through on thoughts and prayers. Everybody was like, oh yeah, that's what you do after mass shooting. You just do thoughts and prayers and then don't do anything.

Well, we've kind of destroyed that talking point. I started destroying the talking point of how the right wing was somehow mainstream. And I said, look, Reagan did amnesty, did all these things that would, these days would be considered massively liberal, even though Reagan was a right winger. And now people acknowledge that and go, well, yeah, I guess, I mean, Reagan, he did sell arms to terrorists, and he did all these things that Democrats are theoretically blamed for. So we can win on these, but it takes forever because the mainstream media is trained to believe that the right wing is correct in this country.

We got a whole story about that later, okay, I'm getting riled up. Yes, okay, so let's get to the rest of the news. The Israeli government has officially banned representatives Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib from their visit to the country. They were planning a visit very soon, but following Donald Trump's tweet, Benjamin Netanyahu made the announcement just shortly after. Now, what did Trump's tweet say? He said, quote, it would show great weakness if Israel allowed Representative Omar and

Representative Talib to visit. They hate Israel and all Jewish people, and there is nothing that can be said or done to change their minds. Minnesota and Michigan will have a hard time putting them back in office. They are a disgrace. So I just want to quickly focus on the first line of that tweet where he mentions that this would show great weakness. This guy that you're about to watch is trying to give advice on weakness.

Call up Carrier, the president, I guess I have to do it myself. I know it's not. So let's get back to the heart of the story. These two women are, first of all, their free speech. is being punished by the leader of this government, right? And so the big issue that Israel has, and this is what they said in their statement, was that the congresswomen are in support of the BDS movement, the boycott divestment. And sanctions.

Yes, a sanctions movement against Israel. Okay, two things about Trump first. So number one, you call on somebody anti-Semitic? Are you kidding me? You went to the Republican business leaders and told him no room likes to renegotiate more than this room. What does that mean? What does it mean? Does a reporter ever want to ask him, what does that mean?

What do you mean that the Jewish business leaders like to renegotiate? I'm curious, what does that mean? It's because you're an anti-Semite, and you have these thoughts in the back of your head, and I don't care who your daughter married. You still believe them. They're stuck there from decades of being an anti-Semite. And then he went and told him, oh, you like to buy off your politicians, and you probably aren't going to vote for support me. This was in the primaries in the last election cycle.

You're probably not going to support me because you can't buy me off. What does that mean? What does that mean? I'd like somebody to get Trump to answer that. It's because he's an anti-Semite. He believes Jews are all they like to renegotiate deals because they're cheaters. It's all about money for them and they're corrupt, et cetera. In reality, as always with Donald Trump, it's projection.

That's everything he does. He bought off politicians. He likes to renegotiate, he reneges on deals, et cetera. He referred to people who chanted, the Jews will not replace us as very fine people. Yes. Let's just keep it real, that's who Donald Trump is. And so like the people sometimes walk on eggshells around that issue because they're like, oh, but his daughter married a Jew, I don't care.

That stuff's been in his head for 70 some odd years, clear, clear anti-Semite. Okay, so, oh, but he moved the embassy for political reasons. And that doesn't help the people of Israel, it hurts the people of Israel. Anyway, the second part of this is, what happened to free speech? I thought Donald Trump, he just did a social media thing in the White House and he brought a bunch of crybaby conservatives, that we're not popular on social media, why don't they make us popular, right? Oh, free speech, right speech, why can't we be racist online, okay?

Well, here's two United States representative representing all those people in their district. And they say, yeah, no, we don't agree. We think that we need to put economic pressure on an ally of ours to get them to do the right thing, not because we hate them, but because we like them. We want them to have moral high ground, and we want them to do the right thing, and we want to liberate the people of Palestine as well, right? All of a sudden, Trump and the right wing say, I hate free speech, shut them down, shut them up, shut them up, don't even let them into the country, go, but they might say something.

They might say something. So just admit it, in a minute, Donald Trump, and everyone who says that there should be laws against BDS movement, wherever you are, and there's so many right-wingers in that category. And Democrats. You are, you hate free speech. So shut up about free speech and never talk about it again, because you're the world's biggest hypocrites. So I mentioned and Democrats, and I want to elaborate on that in just a second.

But first, I want to read you the statement from Netanyahu. And he again mentions the BDS movement. No country in the world respects America and the American Congress more than the state of Israel as a free- Not true. When you spit in the face of two United States Congress people, that would prove to be untrue. As a free and vibrant democracy, Israel is open to critics and criticism. Not remotely true, this is you're doing the exact opposite.

With one exception, Israeli law prohibits the entry into Israel of those who call for and work to impose boycotts on Israel, as do other democracies that prevent the entry of people believe to be damaging to the country. So again, he's specifically referring to the BDS movement and laws that were passed back in 2017 in response to the BDS movement. So the big issue here is punishing members of Congress for their support of a peaceful, there hasn't been any type of violence associated with it, a peaceful movement, right? You might not agree with the way that they're trying to get stuff done in Israel, right?

Or this pressure campaign, and I think that's a fair argument to make, but it is not violent and it is protected under the First Amendment of this Constitution, right? Now I mentioned Democrats earlier because Democrats in the House of Representatives, passed a resolution to condemn anyone who participates in the BDS movement. And there were Democrats who voted in favor, including Democrats we really like, like Representative Rokana, right? Iana Presley. Terrible vote. Terrible vote.

Tulsi Gabbard. I mean, come on. Well, what are they doing? I don't know, like it's, I think only 17 Democrats were on the right side. Over 200 Democrats are like, oh yeah, we hate free speech. The Republicans are totally right, we should ban free speech on this issue. I mean, then don't call yourselves progressives. So look, I'm deeply disappointed in the legislators that voted that way, even the progressives

who normally on every other issue vote in the other direction. So look, back to Netanyahu for a second, oh, we're all totally open to critics except if you criticize this, we'll ban you from the country. With one exception, all critics who talk about boycotts. I think that the exception might swallow the rule. And guys, for my whole life, Israel has rightfully said that they are against violent terrorism. I wholeheartedly support them in that. Then they said, okay, well, when the Palestinians are going to the United Nations and seeking

a diplomatic solution to declare Palestine and state, we're also opposed to that. Okay, wait, now you're against violent action, although you violently keep Palestinians imprisoned in Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Okay, but I agree with you on that. Great, I totally agree, all right? You shouldn't do state violence either, we don't agree on that. But then you say, okay, the diplomatic solution is also totally unacceptable. Okay, then somebody goes, all right, well, then how about an economic solution, but that's

totally peaceful and just puts economic pressure on you. Unbelievable. In fact, they're more upset about that than anything else. They're like, no, that will immediately get you a ban. You know why? Because it'll work, because it'll work. And so, look, I've been split on the BDS movement. For a long time and people get mad at me for that.

And I'm happy to have a debate on this show where I will moderate and I want to hear both sides of it, etc. I know that anyone who's in favor of it should not be banned from Israel. That's a stain on Israel. It makes your democracy look like a sham. And then when you, especially when you do it to two Muslim congresspeople in America, it looks like your Netanyahu has said it before, right before the elections. He said Muslims in Israel basically shouldn't have the same rights as Jews in Israel. So what democracy? Let alone the fact that you're imprisoning millions of Palestinians in the occupied territories.

So the more that Israel says no way ban anybody, including U.S. Congress people that even mention or support BDS, the more I begin to think that BDS is correct, that hey, you know what? That might be the one thing that they actually respond to. So if you, and if you ask me which of the different past they should choose, I definitely vote diplomatic and economic as opposed to violent. By the way, what's the fourth option? According to Netanyahu and the right wing, both in Israel and America, just surrender. Palestinians know that you're going to live in an open-air prison for the rest of your lives,

and your kids and your grandkids will be imprisoned by the state of Israel, and there's nothing you should do, you should just bow your head. Hell no, hell no. I don't agree to that for the Palestinians, and I don't agree to that for Israel, because that makes Israel's permanent wardens and occupiers and prisoners and an oppressive state. That's not what you want for Israel. That doesn't help Israel. It hurts Israel.

All right. Well, let's go to my one shot because I want to share one other angle to the story. Following the Israeli government's decision to ban travel by representatives Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib, a number of figures, public figures on both the right and the left, came out in support of the Congresswomen and against what Benjamin Netanyahu's decision has been. So first, I want to start off with Kevin McCarthy, very well-known right winger, who has not been very friendly to these Congresswomen. Let's hear what he has to say. The president told American advisors, including senior administration officials, that Omar, Congresswoman Omar and Talib, should be barred from going to Israel.

Any thought on that? Do you think the president had those beliefs? I never heard the president say that to me. But the one thing that should have happened, they should have come with their colleagues. They should have come together where they can have a meeting with Israel, with the Palestinian authority, with those who were running against maybe at the same time, you would get every view that you wanted to see. As long as you come with an open mind, open eyes, and open ears, I think you have a responsibility to come here to have an understanding. So he says he never heard the president say it's okay, it's on Twitter, you can just read it.

Okay, but surprisingly mild from Kevin McCarthy. Mild, yeah, relatively speaking, right? Now, I always laugh at right wingers arguing that the left needs to have more of an open mind and they need to be willing to listen to their opponents and work with their opponents. I mean, that has been one of the giant mistakes we've seen from the left wing historically in America. So the right wing never bends, right? The right wing is the one, is the group that refuses to ever compromise.

and makes the Democratic Party bent to their will. It's about time we make the Republicans bent to our will. So just a quick comment on that. But APEC even came out in support of the Congresswomen, which I applaud them for. I'm really glad that they did that. Let me give you some more information. David Harris, chief executive officer of the American Jewish Committee, a prominent pro-Israel organization, said it disagreed with Netanyahu's decision, even though the group strongly

opposes the views expressed by the two congresswomen. And then you have Jeremy Ben Ami, who is the head of J Street. This is the progressive Jewish organization. Now, J. Street did not endorse or support either congresswoman because of their stance in the BDS movement. But here's a statement from Ben Ami. The very foundations of American and Israeli democracy are being called into question by President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu. If you're not allowed entry into a country because of your views, then we have reached the end of the ability to say the U.S.-Israeli relationship is based on shared democratic values. Wow, that's a super strong statement.

So, but I understand there's a giant difference between J Street and APEC. Jay Street's a wonderful progressive organization. APEC now has become a totally right-wing organization. That's why it's way more surprising, borderline, shocking that AAC also said Israel was wrong. They said they strongly disagree with the BDS movement, as Anna pointed out. I said, quote, we also believe every member of Congress should be able to visit and experience our democratic ally firsthand. And then Nancy Pelosi waited.

Normally Nancy Pelosi jumps in and says, you're right wing and Israel's right, right. But in this case, no, look at this, topsy-turvy world. She said, as one who loves Israel, I'm deeply saddened by the news that Israel has decided to prevent members of Congress from entering the country. She also said, Israel's deny of entry to Congresswoman Taliban Omar is a sign of weakness And beneath the dignity of the great state of Israel, so nice, strong words from Nancy Pelosi. And I'm really surprised by that. And so great, that's good news.

Hey, when you make strong statements and you stand up for fellow Congress people, credit where credit is due. And so it appears that now that even APEC and Pelosi and all the others have weighed in, Trump and Netanyahu stand alone in their obstinance and their actions. against the United States Congress, and this is not what a democracy does. And unfortunately, that Njahou and his right-wing government bring Israel further away from democracy every day that they're still in charge. By the way, that guy is a corrupt crook. And so I hope that the authorities in Israel do prove that it's a democracy and hold them

to account. And maybe Pelosi can learn from that and hold Trump to account. When we come back from the break, we will discuss the autopsy that was performed on Jeffrey Epstein and see if it answered any of our questions about whether there could have been a conspiracy behind his death. Yeah, guys, if you haven't seen the story, man, it's pretty shocking. And so it's, well, it's super drama. Okay, and unbelievable.

We'll do it when we come back. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work. Listen, ad-free, access members, only bonus content, and more by subscribing to Apple Podcasts at apple dot co slash t yt i'm your host jank huger and i'll see you soon