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Episode Date: September 24, 2024

Israel's strikes in Lebanon kill more than 180 people, Lebanese officials say. Former CIA director Leon Panetta calls Israel's pager explosion operation "terrorism." Fetterman shades Bernie Sanders on... Netanyahu criticism and praises "blowing up the pagers" and striking Lebanon: "I love it." Mark Robinson's top campaign officials resign after scandal. HOSTS: Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur), Jordan Uhl (@JordanUhl) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ https://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER: ☞ https://www.twitter.com/theyoungturks INSTAGRAM: ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK: ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕 Merch: https://shoptyt.com ❤ Donate: http://www.tyt.com/go 🔗 Website: https://www.tyt.com 📱App: http://www.tyt.com/app 📬 Newsletters: https://www.tyt.com/newsletters/ If you want to watch more videos from TYT, consider subscribing to other channels in our network: The Watchlist https://www.youtube.com/watchlisttyt Indisputable with Dr. Rashad Richey https://www.youtube.com/indisputabletyt The Damage Report ▶ https://www.youtube.com/thedamagereport TYT Sports ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytsports The Conversation ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytconversation Rebel HQ ▶ https://www.youtube.com/rebelhq TYT Investigates ▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. All right, welcome the young Turks live from the Polymarker studio in LA. Jank Yul will joins us, Jordan of course, on Rebel Headquarters. If you're not checking out Rebel Headquarters on the TY network, what are you doing with your life? Okay, so give it a shot about there's so many contributors on there.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I think you'll love it. And of course, Jordan's also the host of insurgents podcast. So on today's show, unfortunately, we're going to war, and that's not metaphorical. It's literal as Jordan is about to explain to you in a minute. But we have a lot of updates on the campaign as well. And then near the end of the show, of course, Mark Robinson updates, and are Republicans okay with black Nazis? We literally ask them, we have the actual answer. that's a little bit later in this hour and then later in the program, Donald Trump is surprised
Starting point is 00:01:31 to find out that sometimes wives like their husbands, and he seems genuinely surprised by that. Given his experience, that's not overly surprising the rest of us, but the clips are hilarious. So that's later in the program. So stay right here. Jordan, take it away. Take a look at this. Tonight in one of the heaviest bombardments since October 8th. Hezbollah missile striking northern Israel. More than a hundred rockets fired, many of them intercepted exploding in the sky above.
Starting point is 00:02:03 And overnight, Israel carrying out hundreds of strikes inside Lebanon, hitting this building that allegedly belongs to Hezbollah. The Lebanon-based group today saying they are entering, quote, an open-ended battle of reckoning. As we feared, all-out war has broken out in the Middle East, as Israel bombards Lebanon with airstrikes and has. Hezbollah returns fire with hundreds of rockets. The overwhelming amount of damage has no doubt been seen in Lebanon. The Israeli military says its forces struck more than 300 targets inside Lebanon, and the death toll keeps going up. Lebanon's health ministry has raised the death toll to 492, including 35 children, as well as 1,645 people injured in the Israeli attack. That makes today Lebanon's deadliest day of conflict since 2006.
Starting point is 00:03:02 The health minister said convoys of vehicles evacuating people from the areas under fire had been targeted, as had two ambulances, a fire truck, and a medical center. Two first responders were killed, he added, and thousands of families have been displaced from targeted areas. On Friday, an airstrike over Beirut also killed at least 50 people, including both Hezbollah fighters and civilians, including children. In a televised speech today, Netanyahu claimed Israel's war is not against civilians. Take a look.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I have a message for the people of Lebanon. Israel's war is not with you. It's with Hezbollah. For too long, Hezbollah has been using you as human shields. It placed rockets in your living rooms and missiles in your garage. Those rockets and missiles are aimed directly at our cities, directly at our citizens. To defend our people against Hezbollah strikes, we must take out those weapons. Now, starting this morning, the IDF has warned you to get out of harm's way.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I urge you, take this warning seriously. Don't let Hezbollah endanger your lives and the lives of your loved ones. Don't let Hezbollah endanger Lebanon. Please get out of harm's way now. Once our operation is finished, you can come back safely to your homes. He also told Israelis to expect complicated days. Over the weekend, as tensions were heating up, Axios reported an incredible tidbit about Israel's alleged strategy here. Israeli officials said their increasing attacks against Hezbollah are not intended to lead to war, but are an attempt to re-exempt.
Starting point is 00:04:53 de-escalation through escalation. They allegedly believe putting more pressure on Hezbollah could push them to agree to a diplomatic deal, and that would return citizens to northern Israel and southern Lebanon. U.S. officials told Axios, they recognize Israel's rationale and agree with it, but stress, this is an extremely difficult calibration that could easily go out of control and lead to an all-out war. Yes, it seems like those fears have unsurprisingly already come to fruition. Hasbollah's leadership said in a statement Monday, it was targeting dozens of rockets at an Israeli military post in northern Israel.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Residents in the city of Nazareth told NPR it was a scary night into early Monday morning with rockets and interceptions over us all night. At least two Israelis have been injured, according to paramedics. Meanwhile, the U.S. says they're doing everything they can to avoid a broader war, but their actions would, of course, suggest otherwise. It was announced today that the U.S. is sending additional troops to the Middle East in response to the escalation of violence between Israel and Hezbollah. The Pentagon wouldn't say how many more forces were being sent,
Starting point is 00:06:15 but we already have 40,000 troops in the region. Now, Jank, de-escalation through escalation, does that make sense to you? It's one of the dumbest, most Orwellian things I have ever heard any government officials say in my lifetime. If the North Koreans said we're doing de-escalation through escalation, we'd make fun of it for the rest of time. And we should in this case as well. What that means is, thank you very much. We appreciate you admitting that you are starting. the war. Because that's an Israeli official saying, yes, we're doing escalation.
Starting point is 00:06:51 But that will lead to de-escalation. I don't know how much he laughed afterwards. And I don't know how much he laughed after seeing the 35 children dead and over 400 people slaughtered, as usual by Israel. So of course, Israelis have their usual standard excuses. Oh, they've been firing rockets for 11 months. How many of them landed? One. Look, there might have been land to some that landed and caused minor injuries, but overall, they are enormously ineffectual. So, okay, but if they, oh my God, you were so concerned as you had to go to war to prevent it, why didn't you do 11 months ago, 10 months ago, nine months ago?
Starting point is 00:07:31 No, you chose to escalate and your official just admitted it. And there's no question about it. A little bit later in the program, we're going to do another story about a former CIA director and Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, as establishment as it gets, saying Israel is doing the terrorism. That is an astounding thing for a U.S. official to say, and I think he speaks for a lot more people, hang around for that story as well. But now let me give you more from the American officials so you understand what they actually think.
Starting point is 00:08:01 So Jordan read you the statement about, we technically agree with Israel's rationale. We really have to say this. They say, you know, as the people that are in charge, the politicians go, yes, the check cleared from APEC. Say it. Say you agree with Israel. Yes, sorry, yes, we agree with Israel. That's why they send people like Leanne Panetta, who's not in the government anymore, to say, of course Israel's the one starting the war. But here, you can see it clearly in their own statements that they put out because they can't help it, because it's so obvious that Israel is starting this giant war in the Middle East, and they want us to fight it. So here's
Starting point is 00:08:39 a U.S. official quoted by Axios. One of the key messages that we want to keep a path to open into a diplomatic resolution and therefore don't want the Israelis to take steps that will close such a path. In other words, they're closing the path to peace by bombing the hell out of Lebanon. Okay, if you're not clear enough, more from Axios, the U.S. made clear to Israel as such a war wouldn't help Israel achieve its goal of returning tens of thousands of displaced Israelis to their homes on the border with Lebanon. So which one is it?
Starting point is 00:09:10 Do you agree with that insane, ludicrous, humiliating rationale of de-escalation through escalation? You think that rationale is good? Or do you say that it would not achieve their goals? It's obvious that officially we agree with Israel, because we are not allowed to disagree with Israel. But unofficially, the minute you ask him any question, they're like, of course it's Israel. Are you guys nuts? As well has been doing the same ineffectual bombing for the last 11 months. And now Israel's obliterating them.
Starting point is 00:09:40 They're in basically invading Lebanon. But Lebanon is not their main target guys, Iran is. But Iran is a giant war. Israel cannot fight by itself. That's why they make, they want us to do it. And conveniently, our corrupt politicians have brought a giant part of our fleet right next to Iran so that Hezbollah or Hamas or the Houthis or Iran can bomb one of our ships, kill a bunch of our service members so we can say, that's it we have to do it.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Come on, obliterate Iran. Everybody paid for it. Give us another trillion dollars. Give it over, okay? That's what they're going to do. Here, I got more quotes from U.S. officials. They say that they're focused on reaching, I'm quoting acts here's again, focused on reaching an understanding with Israeli leaders about the escalation dial.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Do you get it? So they're like, we have to say that they're telling you they're right and the other guys are the bad guy terrorists, but there's an escalation dial. and it's been turned up to 11 by Israel. That's why we're talking to their leaders. Will you stop attacking every goddamn neighbor? And Israel goes, yeah, what are you going to do about it? Send me another check?
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yeah, dumbass. Go home. I'll give you your next order, okay, when it's time. So you'll restart a check, okay? Remember, because we normally give Israel $4 billion a year. But when they slaughtered 40,000 Palestinians in Gaza and obliterated the entire place, We said 4 billion. No, this time we're going to send you 26 billion.
Starting point is 00:11:13 That's U.S. politicians saying, nice job. Way to murder all those Palestinians. Oh, my God, we're going to send you so much more money. Now, imagine how much money we're going to send them when they start slaughtering that level of people in Lebanon, let alone a much larger number in Iran. Is it going to be contained in 26? No, the next one will probably be $260 billion. dollars. And I'm not at all exaggerating. That is a massive understatement because in Iraq and Afghanistan, we spent over at least at a bare minimum, two trillion dollars. Iran is four times
Starting point is 00:11:48 the size of Iraq. One last one. McGurik, one of the top U.S. officials here who asked to every once in a while go and humiliate himself publicly and go, Israel is right. Attacking all your neighbors is de-escalation. Can I please leave? This is every one of the U.S. officials now looks like a hostage video when they're when they were doing their press conferences. But he said, quote, we have disagreements with the Israelis on tactics and how you measure escalation risk. It is a very concerning situation. Combined with Panetta's comments, it is inescapable. American officials are saying we're not allowed to disagree publicly, but they're starting the war and they're going to make us fight it. And there's no question about it.
Starting point is 00:12:34 The only people left are like the Israeli zealots. Like, no, everything Israel does is great. Of course America should pay for it and should fight their wars for their special ally, moral army. We just killed another 400 some odd people, another 35 children. If Hezbo, like his 35 children, by the way, Hamas killed 34 on October 7th, and in return, 40,000, 41,000 Palestinians killed, et cetera, et cetera, for 34 kids, October 7th, 34 poor Israeli kids slaughtered by Hamas, hated, can't stand it, awful,
Starting point is 00:13:10 right? 34, 35 killed just today in Lebanon. America doesn't care. The world cares, but there's nothing you can do. And America goes, you need another check? You need another check? Okay, we know you're starting it. We know you're the one escalating, but now, okay, yeah, whatever you need, Sir, sir, the corruption in America is the cancer of the world. It forces us to let the oil companies do as much destruction to this planet as possible. Drug companies literally kill Americans, 68,000 Americans, health insurance companies and drug companies because we're the only civilized, only developed nation that doesn't have universal health care. We just let people die in order for donors to make more money.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And now Israel says, you are to let me kill as many human beings as possible, start as many words. as possible. And you're to shut up about it and send me more money. And right now, that's what we're doing. If you don't realize that's what's happening, you're just ignorant. And you will be, you will pay for this war. There's no question about it. They will take a giant number out of your check and go, no, no, no, that's not going to help you with your wages. It's not going to help your kids or get food. It's not going to help you with anything. That's set aside for Israel to start more wars in the Middle East. 100% reality.
Starting point is 00:14:51 It's always interesting to see Netanyahu post these videos and release these statements in English because he's also, he's not just speaking to people who's English in Israel, he's speaking to people in Congress who are going to do his bidding. So it's always fascinating to see him release a video in English. And in this case, we have an example of what this type of language leads to. There's so many parallels. We're almost at the one year mark of October 7th. And you see the same language, the same deceitful tactics to justify a bombing campaign, a barbaric bombing campaign.
Starting point is 00:15:27 It's the same things. Human shields. They're hiding weapons in your home. Please evacuate the area. This isn't against civilians. And already we're seeing a civilian death toll. Day one. So the opportunity if U.S. officials in the Biden administration cared would be to stop it now.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Use the leverage you know you have. Stop it now. Biden and his team over the past 72 hours talked to media about how his number one priority in his remaining days in office is to guarantee a ceasefire. How is this going to help? How is allowing this to continue? Continue to send weapons, aid, munitions, whatever Netanyahu wants, do not use an ounce of leverage that you have over him.
Starting point is 00:16:13 How is that in line with your number one priority? We've seen these types of comments from him and his administration for almost a year now. And what is that amounted to? They're moving to Lebanon in part because they run out of things to bomb and guys. That's why they expanded their campaign to a much larger extent in the West Bank. It's about a few things, expanding their control in that region and their influence in that region, but also preserving Netanyahu's position as prime minister. The longer a war rages, the longer he's insulated from outside threats.
Starting point is 00:16:46 It keeps his coalition together, keeps his government together. He's not subject to an oustere from his position or his government falling apart. So people have to die because of his thirst for power. Yeah. So a couple of other clarifying things here. So to Jordan's point, if this was Biden's top priority to stop the war, well, he didn't. So Joe Biden, by his own admission then, is a historic failure. Total utter failure. And this is not complicated, guys. If you want to stop the war, you use your leverage. Whatever the leverage might happen to be in any negotiation. What's our leverage here? This is also obvious, the $26 billion we're sending.
Starting point is 00:17:26 If you say, hey, if you do the thing that I don't want you to do, which is escalation, which every official, as I just read you, is making clear, yeah, Israel's escalating. If you do that, I will not send you the money. It is the least complicated thing on earth. And why is he not using his leverage? Also, not at all complicated. If you're like, it's still in La La Land because you watch MSNBC and you're like, Well, he's such a great, empathetic, sweet man.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And he just, like, natural Zionist. And he just believes that Israel should be able to invade and attack and occupy millions of people any time that he wants, because he's such a guy. College comes from right here, Zionism, okay? No, it comes from over $11 million in checks. Honestly, if you don't understand that, you're kind of an idiot. And if you're national media and you just took that personally, good. I meant it personally.
Starting point is 00:18:19 How dumb can you be that you never write in articles why Joe Biden will not use his leverage to get to his number one priority? That never occurred to you? It's never been in a single article in mainstream media. It never occurred to you that it might be the $11 million or the $5 million they gave to Kamala Harris or the $100 million they're spending on this cycle. You're like, well, what do you say? Let's have a debate. Is it that he loves Zionism or is that he loves exploding patriots? Why do you think they're doing it?
Starting point is 00:18:46 Somebody says, could it be the money, the $100 million they're spending in this election? Get out of here, you radical. We found an anti-Semi, we found an anti-S. Come on, if they really believe this, every reporter in Washington is at the very bottom. It's like the 1% on IQ scale, dumbest people in the whole country. I challenge you. I challenge any reporter in Washington, D.C., have a debate with me and prove to me that the politicians don't care about the hundreds of millions of dollars that APEC is giving them. them. That's just so irrelevant to them. They're just all natural born Zionists.
Starting point is 00:19:21 God, you sound so unbelievably stupid. Okay, yeah. Now I've said my piece on that. Last thing's here. Guys, the second reason why the pager explosions, as I told you, was that's, as soon as that happened, I came on here and said, we're going to war. That's Israel's declaration of war. And then what followed afterwards? The leader of Hezboleuk comes on and goes, that was, quote, an unlaw. unprecedented and historic attack, it crosses all red lines and will be going to war. That was their intent. That is exactly what wound up having the reaction of Hezbollah. And every security expert that the U.S. had says, well, now, and they read you the quotes
Starting point is 00:20:04 from CNN and all the other sources that say, yes, now Hezbollah and Iran will have no choice but to retaliate. Otherwise, they're humiliated to their domestic audience, cannot retain power, etc. Besides which, what, if somebody slaps you across the face, what, 10 times, a thousand times, what do you think a normal human being is going to do? I know, they're allowed to, Israel's allowed to kill 460 people in Lebanon, 35 children. They're, because they're the moral army. But of course, if it has a lot of fire is back, terrorists. Why? They're Muslims. Muslims are always terrorists and Israel is always the moral ones, it doesn't matter that Israel kills on a scale so much greater than any of their Muslim enemies. Like 40 times Hamas. And the people in media here,
Starting point is 00:20:55 again, either the dumbest people on the entire planet or the most biased go, oh, Israel has killed 40 times the civilians of Hamas. That is why Hamas is terrorist and Israel is the moral army. I mean, we're so sick of these lies. Last thing, guys, what Israel, speaking of lies, I saw it on the Piers Mortgage Show. I was kind of surprised by it when I heard an Israeli official making this point, and now they're doing it over and over again. And I realized that was the beginning of this propaganda campaign. They're trying to decouple Hezbollah and Hamas and Gaza.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Wait a minute, I thought you guys were saying they were all funded by Iran. They're all connected. And they said, no, Hezbollah is not. firing the rockets because of the occupation and to support Gaza and to get Israel to stop bombing Gaza. Hezbollah just hates Jews for no reason at all, not connected to the fact that there's a five and a half million people imprisoned in open camps by the Israelis. And not because Israel just destroyed 70% of the buildings in Gaza and displaced 95% of the people there. Not because of that. No, Hesbla is just doing it randomly because they're raging anti-Semites and that's why we're
Starting point is 00:22:09 allowed to kill and murder all of them and we're the moral army and they're the terrorists. Okay, if you believe that, you're again, either enormously biased or you work in mainstream media and you're dumb as a rock. Okay, I think we've set our piece when we come back. Leon Panetta, the former CIA director, with a shocking warning on this issue. I've never seen anything like this. We'll show it to you when we come back. All right, back, back on TYT, Jenk, Jordan, and Devin, Martin, Devin, thank you for in the join button below.
Starting point is 00:22:58 We appreciate it. Suki B, who is a member on YouTube, said nobody but TYT has been talking about this. You kid me? You know what Jake Tapper did a segment on this weekend? Rashida Tilibe said that the attorney general, I believe, of Michigan was wrong to arrest peace protesters. Jake Tapper did a giant segment about how she's an anti-Semite and was attacking Jews and demanded that other Democrats apologize on behalf of Rashida.
Starting point is 00:23:29 to leave. How dare she support peace protesters? And she's objecting to them being arrested? When they criticized Israel, Jake Tapper and CNN think that's the real problem, not all the slaughter that Israel has done for the last year. Amazing. Mainstream media is the most disgustingly biased corporate crap. If there's a donor to please, CNN is there. Oh yes, well, of course, of course, Israel is the greatest. Have the Palestinians run any ads on us? No ads on us? The monsters, terrorists.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Of course, only immoral people would kill them all. Did the APEC clear checked? And then the politicians all get funded by APEC get sent to us and ads. Did that check clear? Check clear. Jake, tell everybody how Rashida Taleb is an anti-Semite. Hey, Jake Tapper, are you going to apologize for lying about Rashida Tilibe, making up? That she said that it was, that the Attorney General was Jewish and had any reference to her faith?
Starting point is 00:24:31 No, he didn't. I mean, Rashida Tilibe didn't say that. But you made that up because you want to distract people and tell, Israel's not the problem. Israel's not the problem. No, no, no, no. Rashida Tiliq, anti-Semite, anti-Semite, anti-Semite, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, get out of here. By the way, as a real literal Nazis like Nick Fuentes and others run around, you guys have turned anti-Semite into the boy who cries wolf. no one believes you about anything anymore.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Great job. Well played. Well played. Idiots. All right, Jordan. Take a look at this. The ability to be able to place an explosive in technology that is very prevalent these days
Starting point is 00:25:12 and turn it into a war of terror. Really, a war of terror. This is something new. Is it terrorism? I don't think there's any question that it's form of terrorism. Former CIA director Leon Panetta did not mince words when talking about Israel's pager attack in Lebanon. It's terrorism. Now, for context, on Tuesday, a wave of attacks supposedly
Starting point is 00:25:42 targeting pagers held by members of Hezbollah, killed at least 12 people, including two young children, and injured thousands more. A second wave of detonations on Wednesday killed another 20 people and injured more than 450 people, according to Lebanon's health ministry. And Panetta warns that Israel's tactic turning ordinary consumer products into explosives could have devastating long-term consequences. Take a look. This is gone right into the supply chain. Right into the supply chain. And when you have terror going into the supply chain, it makes people ask the question, what the hell is next? It sounds like you're genuinely worried.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I am. I am. This is a tactic that has repercussions. And we really don't know what those repercussions are going to be. And Panetta warned and he stressed that other governments around the world need to get involved now to prevent this from escalating into a much larger regional conflict. Take a look. The forces of war are largely in control right now of what's going on. Do you think there should be condemnation for it?
Starting point is 00:27:02 Should other nations step in, including us? I think it's going to be very important for the nations of the world to have a serious discussion about whether or not this isn't an area that everybody has to focus on. because if they don't try to deal with it now, mark my word, it is the battlefield of the future. Jank, this caught me by surprise. Of all people, Leon Panetta, not somebody I thought would be the voice of reason in moments like this. What do you make of these comments? I think he is being the voice of reason. And the fact that it's Leon Panetta is enormously relevant. So let me bring it down for you, both in terms of what he's saying and the repercussions of what he's saying. So number one, this former CIA director, former secretary of defense, it doesn't get any more establishment than Leon Panetta.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And the reason why that's relevant is because in America, anyone who's involved in the establishment, let alone the former head of the CIA, former secretary defense, never criticizes Israel. I've never seen it. It doesn't happen. He just called what Israel did terrorism. Totally unprecedented. I couldn't believe it. I rewatch it like three times. So if you don't live in America, you're like, what's the big deal?
Starting point is 00:28:31 Of course it was a form of terrorism. Twelve kids died. Thousands of people got blown up. It was preemptive, et cetera. No, here in America, our officials never admit the truth. Never. So the fact that he's doing it is super important. And I think there's something behind.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I'm going to come back to that in a second. So one, he says Israel is doing the terrorism. Two, he said, now we have terrorism in the supply chain. And basically, you saw the context, you saw the videos, yourself, with your own eyes. You can interpret it any way you like. My interpretation is crystal clear. And I think that the overwhelming majority of you will agree with it, which is that he's saying, Israel did the terrorism. Israel brought terrorism into the supply chain, now we're all screwed.
Starting point is 00:29:16 And the repercussions are going to be long lasting and terrible. He did never once mention Hezbollah or Hamas as the culprits or anything. I mean, that is textbook U.S. government to say, well, well, it appears that Israel did this, we're going to blame random, Rando Muhammad over there and Ahmed over there. and obviously they're all terrorists and as Israel did this, they're angels and et cetera. For a former CIA director to say, no, it was Israel, it's going to be a disaster and it's terrorism. Again, never seen it in my life.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And so, and that gets to why I think he's doing it in one more second. But the third thing that he mentioned, did you catch that quote? The forces of war are largely in control right now. Now, why would the former defense secretary say that? My guess, Jordan, is that he has talked to a lot of government officials who he has deep contacts with, and he's not doing this willy-nilly because he felt like, hey, I'll get up on a Sunday morning and call Israel terrorists. No, there's people inside the government telling him, you've got to do something, Leon.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Israel is going to drag us into this war and this war is going to be way, way worse than people realize. So somebody's got to say something because the American people are deceived by the media into thinking Israel isn't doing it. That it's that they're the victims and they're the, oh my God, golly, we're so tiny and small those big Arab countries with all their weapons. What weapons? None of their weapons even land, okay?
Starting point is 00:31:00 So like, oh, Israel's being oppressed for the four. former CIA director to come out and say, no, no, it's Israel that's doing the terrorism. And now we're going to have a huge giant problem that America is going to have to deal with. That is my guess. Now that's the reality. That's those are facts. And now my analysis is that there's tons of people inside the U.S. government going, we got to send out word to the American people that our ally is going to get all of us into a lot of trouble. Jordan, what do you think? So, Jank, there was one thing that really stood out to me.
Starting point is 00:31:36 So let's talk about his terrorism comments first. And this isn't the part that really stood out. He's just calling a spade of spade. It's undeniable. And when you aren't directly involved, you're not in a government position. You don't have a direct stake in it. It's much easier for someone to call that out. Of course, Matt Miller's not going to call it terrorism.
Starting point is 00:31:55 He's going to call it a strategic operation, despite a clear. affecting many, many innocent civilians. But what stood out to me from Panetta's comments were his comments about the supply chain, the effect that this tactic had on commerce. And that reveals that Panetta's still got a foot in that camp. And he's still concerned and understands what this is ultimately about in so many instances. You know, forever war, while we like to portray it as about freedom and bringing democracy around the world, is very often about the global flow of commerce and capitalist interests.
Starting point is 00:32:32 He recognizes that this tactic is reckless because it's not just about the damage. It's not actually, it's not at all about the damage inflicted in Lebanon or the people who were suffered or killed as a result of this tactic. It's about people having concerns about consumer goods. Whoa, whoa, how are businesses going to feel about this? We already had a supply chain crisis a year or so ago. he understands that this could affect economic and capitalist interests. And that's what he's speaking to there. So it's good that he's saying, yeah, this is terrorism because it is. But to me,
Starting point is 00:33:05 it shows his priority isn't with the people in Lebanon. It is businesses. Oh, absolutely, Jordan. It is this a terrific point. But that I think doubles down on my point. I've never seen Leon Panetta care about innocent civilians in the Middle East. I've never seen Leon Panetti care about any Muslim lives ever. I mean, when he was in off. He was like, Israel, what kind of green light do you need? If you want, we'll one in here, the size of Rhode Island. He sent Israel endless checks. Israel killed endless Muslims, occupied the Palestinians entire, the entire time Panetta was in charge,
Starting point is 00:33:38 and Panetta never cared. It's not about the idea that an American official, a former CIA director, would care about innocent Muslim lives is hilarious. There's no chance that that's the case. No, here what he's saying is, and what I'm worried about is government officials that know a lot more than us, but cannot say it publicly, are saying through him, you're not getting it. This isn't about protecting Muslims anymore. No one's ever cared about that. This is about protecting the rest of us. Israel is starting both a war and a terror tactic
Starting point is 00:34:12 that cannot be undone. That's going to affect all of our businesses. That's going to affect our populations. It's going to affect our economy massively. And it's going to make the whole world live under the literal word terror as they pick up a cell phone, as they pick up any equipment, any device, is there a bomb in it? And Israel started this, obviously. Look, later, they'll probably pretend, oh, no, Hamas and Hezbollah made us put the bombs and the pagers because, fill in the blank, human shields, or whatever nonsense propaganda they're doing today. But it doesn't just have to be Israel, then other people can copy Israel and start putting bombs in all the devices. So I mean, and Israel is not crying because people
Starting point is 00:35:04 are saying they're not going to buy Israeli products anymore because they might be Jerry rig to blow up. You didn't think that that might happen that is certainly at a very, very minimum that no one in the Middle East will ever buy an Israeli product again? How dumb are you? I know, you think you're invincible if you're a right-wing Israeli government official and you think it doesn't matter because America is going to back us up and we're going to, we'll order them to fight this war for us. Well, there you see the former CIA director and the defense secretary saying, I'm not sure that that's going to happen this time around because you guys have gone too far.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And that is a turn of events I have never seen in America before. All right, we got to take another break. When we come back, we've got other topics, but also John Federman, when Israel needs its ass kissed, he's the perfect ass kisser, so he puckered up over the weekend. All right, back on T.Y. T.J. and Jordan with you guys and Chuck West. Chuck, thanks for hitting the join button below. If you see us saying things that you agree with or that you think we're brave to say, I appreciate you guys saying that as you do in the, you know, when I read the comments and the social breaks.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Please join and be part of the Young Turks. It's hard to get the message out without your help. Obviously, there aren't giant corporations or foreign governments funding us. And hence, we're connected to you guys. I love that we're connected to you guys, become young tourist members and be one of us. All right, Jordan. Take a look at this. And now I want to be very clear.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I thought what Israel chose to do about blowing up the pagers and then walkie-talkies. And then after targeting and eliminating membership and leadership of Hezbollah, I absolutely support that. And in fact, if anything, I love it. That's right. Senator John Federman's response to the IDF's escalation in Lebanon is that he loves it. The clip you just watched was from yesterday's end edition of Meet the Press, and host Kristen Welker did actually a pretty good job of pressing him in that interview. Now let's focus on Federman's take on the rapidly growing war between Israel and Hezbollah.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Here is Federman shamelessly defending both the Israeli government and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Take a look. Senator Bernie Sanders accused Prime Minister Netanyahu of sabotaging a deal. Take a look at what he said. Every time a deal appears close, Netanyahu moves the goalposts, introducing new demands, and torpedoing the deal. It is clear to me that Netanyahu is prolonging the war in order to cling to power. Senator, you have stood firmly behind Israel.
Starting point is 00:38:19 But do you agree with any part of what your colleague, Senator Sanders, said there? No, not not at all. And now I want to be very clear. I thought what Israel chose to do about blowing up the pagers and then walkie-talkies. And then after targeting and eliminating membership and leadership of Hezbollah, I absolutely support that. And in fact, if anything, I love it. And Israel demonstrated that they will not allow terrorists not to be held accountable. And I fully support that.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And it's not about nothing that has what my colleague has said. So what's the reason for that ridiculous groveling? According to the New Republic, Vetterman has received $244,100 from pro-Israel groups. But APEC has not contributed to the senator's election campaigns, according to a review of open secrets data from the last four years. So, Jank, is he just hanging on and putting himself out there hoping for some APEC cash? Yeah, no, he's an interesting case because there's some politicians that for no apparent reason support Israel so much. I don't mean like support the government like the country of Israel. I mean this particular right wing government that has committed so many war crimes and
Starting point is 00:39:45 atrocities. They do it with such fervor that it makes me think maybe it's not just the money. I mean, he's a senator now, quarter of a million dollars probably isn't going to cut it. So I don't know what they have on him, but that did look like a hostage video. He's like, oh, Israel has started what by the way, former CIA director Leon Panetta called terrorism and maybe a disastrous war. He's like, oh, they have started a disastrous war through terrorism. I love it.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I love it. Don't, don't print it. Okay, okay, did I do enough? Yes, Netanyahu, I serve you. I wasn't supposed to say that, was I? I'm so sorry. I don't know what his motivation is. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:40:26 He's a giant liar. He's one of the worst people in Congress. Why do I say that? Because he's not just a normal guy who went and he's like, oh, I am, you know, corporate Democrat Bob. We know with corporate Democrat, Bob, that he's going to serve the donors. We all know that, right? No, he came in as an anti-war progressive.
Starting point is 00:40:45 And now he's one of the biggest neoconservatives in the Senate, paling around with Lindsey Graham trying to start wars. Huge, awful wars in the Middle East. And he says he loves it. And that, of course, if Israel starts it, we should pay for it. And maybe our service members should go die on behalf of that foreign government. government. Sick, disgusting guy. I'm so sorry that I had any role in electing this guy at all, at all. And I, at this point, he's so conservative. He's probably to the right of Dr. Oz. So he's made Dr. Oz look like a progressive by being, and he's now, he's like,
Starting point is 00:41:31 oh, we're not fracking it off. I mean, and it goes on and on and on. I don't mind any one particular position. But you flipped all your positions overnight and you went from totally anti-war to the most pro-war senator in the country? Yeah, I don't know what they have on you. Maybe it's nothing. Maybe you just lost your mind, okay? But this is not normal. This is a guy who's he's not what he was just a short while ago. You make up your own mind why you think that is. But on the facts, there's no question. On the issue of war, it's 180 degrees. return and he's become a war monger now betraying every single person who voted for. Yeah, I don't know what their long term strategy is because you would think that being so
Starting point is 00:42:19 defiant on not just this issue, this issue, but several others would rub voters the wrong way the next time he's up for reelection. And he maybe is trying to follow the model that Mansion and established in the Senate, and maybe he hopes that he can be kind of the moderate champion in Pennsylvania for the foreseeable future. I would hope not because we've seen what a mansion or a cinema can do, the damage that they can do when a Democratic president is an office and is trying to push through their platform and their priorities. It's just they're an obstacle. Maybe that's what he wants to do, and he knows with that will come a ton of corporate cash, so it makes fundraising easier.
Starting point is 00:43:03 It makes campaigning easier. To your point, Jank, that's you're selling out the people that supported you. He had a wave of support in the primary to defeat Conor Lamb, and he tried to establish himself and sell himself as a progressive. In fact, we've talked about it before in this show. In years past, he called himself proudly a progressive, and now he is criticizing and admonishing and attacking progressives and said he never even took up that mantle, which is untrue. So maybe that is what he's trying to do. But here it's just, what are you doing? You're
Starting point is 00:43:36 celebrating further escalation? At this point, why don't you go over there and fight? If you care so much and you're so giddy about it, why don't you go over there and volunteer? They're accepting? They're accepting volunteers. Go. Show me really, truly care. By the way, he wouldn't be the only U.S. Congressman has served in the Israeli military. Representative Mass has also done So there's a, I mean, they get paid so much money by pro-Israel donors and whatever else is going on in Washington that we don't know. They're like, wait, not only do I love the wars that Israel's starting, some of them actually join up. So at least Mass did. I don't know if John Frauderman is considering, and maybe if Netanyahu orders him, he will.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Maybe he'll serve in the war effort. But you remember how Winston Churchill had that dog, or at least that's the image that was laid out. I don't know if he actually had the dog, the bulldog. Maybe that he's fetterman could be that for Netanyahu, like a cute little symbol. Hey, look, I have a United Senator here. Go get him, boy, go get him. Okay. Now, I want to end on one positive note.
Starting point is 00:44:50 God bless Bernie Sanders. She's the only one trying to do the right thing. He's like, what are we doing? Why are we helping Israel kill these people? How does that help Israel? How does that help the Palestinians? How does it help the U.S.? What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:45:04 And why are we doing this? You know why Bernie Sanders is perplexed and can't understand? Remember, Bernie lived in Israel. He lived in a kaput's in Israel. So it's not like, oh, he's anti-Israel. No, he's just genuinely doesn't get it. He's like, why are we making it so much worse for Israel, let alone the Palestinians, et cetera? Bernie, it's because you're not taking bribes.
Starting point is 00:45:25 That's why they're doing it. It has nothing to do with rationality or logic or caring about Israel or being against Israel. It has to do with APAC is now a far right-wing pro-net Yahoo organization. It bribes all of the other senators who are your colleagues. And then they do exactly as their donors ordered them as they do on every issue. So that's why it's happening. Thank God there's at least one honest man in the Senate. I like some of what he says, but I think he goes a little bit forward with what he says.
Starting point is 00:46:14 What about this new stuff that came out about him calling himself a black Nazi on a porn site? Have you heard of Lerner? I have heard that, but that's kind of hilarious. Excuse my French, I'm sorry. Does what happen with Mark Robbins? over the past few days, this news cycle about calling himself a black Nazi on a porn website allegedly, allegedly going in there and saying that he likes transgender porn, things that are sort of unseemly in politics. Does that bother you at all? YT visited Wilmington, North Carolina, where Trump supporters gathered to watch the former
Starting point is 00:46:51 president campaign over the weekend. But how do these Republican voters, feel about their party's gubernatorial candidate Mark Robinson, who referred to himself as a black Nazi and disclosed his affinity for transgender porn on an adult message board called nude Africa. We'll get to their reactions in a moment, but it's worth revisiting that explosive CNN report from last week that discovered Robinson's musings from a decade ago. The comments he made on the nude Africa message boards dated back to 2008 and went through 2012. His username was
Starting point is 00:47:27 Mini Soldier, and he even referred to himself as a purve. Publicly, he calls for the arrest and mistreatment of members of the transgender community, but he admits to loving transgender porn. I like watching blank on girl porn. That's
Starting point is 00:47:43 blanking hot. It takes the man out while leaving the man in. And yeah, I'm a purve too. While he campaigns on an anti-abortion platform and says he supports so-called heartbeat bills that ban abortions after six weeks, he shares how little he really cares of the issue online. Writing as mini-soldier on nude Africa in December 2010, Robinson
Starting point is 00:48:09 said he did not care about a celebrity having an abortion. I don't care. I just want to see the sex tape, Robinson wrote. He also wrote about spying on women changing when he was a 14-year-old, something he clearly fantasizes today about. Robinson graphically described his own sexual arousal as an adult from the memory of secretly peeping on women in public gym showers as a 14-year-old. Robinson recounted the story as a memory he said he still fantasized about. I came to a spot that was a dead end, but had two big vent covers over it. It just so happened. It overlooked the showers.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I sat there for about an hour and watched a several girls came in and showered. Robinson wrote on Nude Africa. In the wake of that damning report, a bunch of Robinson's top campaign staffers resigned just weeks before the election. On Sunday, the campaign issued a statement revealing the campaign manager, finance director, deputy campaign manager, and senior advisor have all resigned. And today, Mark Robinson declined offers from supporters to enlist tech. experts that could help exonerate him. Seems like what any person, any innocent person would do. So with all this in mind, let's see how Trump supporters feel about him as a candidate for governor. One Swifty for Trump gives us a pretty shocking answer. Take a look. Calling himself a
Starting point is 00:49:40 black Nazi inside a porn website and saying that he likes transgender porn, right? Yes, right. Yeah. So you're not buying that? No, I'm not. If it came out as true, Would you still vote for him against Josh Stein? I mean, yes, I would. But I think, I just don't think it's true, though. No, no, I was asking him the hypothetical. Well, you'd still vote for him even if it was proven true and he came out and admitted it. You'd still vote for it.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Yes, I would because I don't like Josh Stein. Okay. Other Trump supporters don't care about what happens behind closed doors, as long as the candidate delivers on what's important. important. Take a look. You know, even Donald Trump said some things that we all didn't agree with and didn't like that he done. But hey, he's the frontrunner for the next president of the United States right now. So I'm more concerned with Mark Robinson's policy that I am with this, you know, kinky sex life or whatever he, you know, done. But not all Trump supporters are willing to go
Starting point is 00:50:46 along with Robinson simply because he's a Republican and has the endorsement of Donald Trump. Take a look. Will you still vote for Mark Robinson for governor? A little more research, got to go into that because it's so... If it turns out to be true, would you still vote for him? Absolutely not. No, I'm not about that. Are you aware of the investigative report about Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson? I am. How does that affect your vote in that race? The jury's still out on that. You know, CNN isn't the most reliable source. But I do know that he has some issues.
Starting point is 00:51:30 And so we'll have to wait until I get in the ballot box. You're the only juror in the jury I'm asking. I just haven't made up my mind at this point. If it all does turn out to be true, would it be hard for you as a woman of God to vote for him? It would be hard to vote for Josh Stein. Finally, one Trump supporter seemed to understand the issues of putting party over country. Sort of. Take a look.
Starting point is 00:52:02 What do you think of Mark Robinson here? I don't know. Do you think Trump should pull his endorsement after what was revealed? I don't know whether I just say yes or no on that one. But we're going to find out. It may be misinformation. It may not be. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:18 If it turns out to be true, would you still vote? for Robinson? If it turns out to be true, I'd have to, I usually vote the straight Republican ticket, so it would be, he would be in there. Do you think America would be a better country if Democrats didn't vote straight Democrat, and Republicans
Starting point is 00:52:39 didn't vote straight Republican? Could be, yeah, where we come together. Yeah. Do you think Trump can bring us together? I hope so. Do you think Vice President? You think by, well, he did it once. Are we together now? Yeah, well, we're still divided as far as Republicans and Democrats. Do you think Vice President Harris could bring us together? Hell no. Hank, what do you make of this? Okay, so there's a lot of funny parts of this, but also very disturbing parts.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Now, when you call yourself a black Nazi, you could take out the black part. He just called himself a Nazi. And so two of those people said, yeah, but I, Josh Stani, if you don't know, it happens to be Jewish American. So they're saying, I'd rather vote for the Nazi than the Jewish candidate. We got problems in this country. We got significant problems in this country. So look, first of all, let's just keep it real. I get it. They don't like the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:53:38 And we don't like, I don't like Republicans. Okay. So I always think she on the other foot, right? So, okay, what if it was, we found out, Colin Enrod happens to be. black, he's running against Ted Cruz in Texas for the Senate seat. I load Ted Cruz. So Colin onward did the same exact thing that Mark Robinson did. I found out the same exact things about him. He calls himself a black Nazis. So I wish we could bring back slavery so I could own a couple of slaves. And before this even came out, Mark Robinson said
Starting point is 00:54:06 that you should kill your political opponents. How are we still having this conversation? He said that the Holocaust wasn't real. I mean, how are we, that was pre-controversy. Like already all the things he said were lunatic, total freaking lunatic stames. If Colin Arnold had said one of those things, let alone all those things, would I say, well, yeah, but on the other hand, I don't like Ted Cruz. So I'm going to vote for the Nazi. No, no, I would never do that. I hope you would never do that.
Starting point is 00:54:36 But, and it doesn't mean that you have to go vote for Ted Cruz. But I'm certainly not going to vote for a guy who calls himself a Nazi. I'm certainly not going to vote for a guy who says bring back slavery, okay? Or kill your political opponents. That's not that high a bar. That's like the lowest bar ever. Will you vote, will you not vote for a Nazi? And we can't, we asked them.
Starting point is 00:54:57 They couldn't clear the bar. So this country is in a lot of trouble. And now let's acknowledge this. Easy to excuse it. Oh, he's got a kinky sex life. I don't give a goddamn about his sex life. This has nothing to do with that, nothing. I'm not interested in what kind of porn he was watching.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I'm interested that he talked about bringing back slavery and being a Nazi while he was on the porn site. That's the relevant part. And finally, and Jordan, you know this. Everybody watching this knows this. And unfortunately, it happens a little bit on the other side for sure as well. But it only takes one thing to confirm your bias. but 20 other things against your bias and you won't believe it. So if the same exact story was about a Democrat,
Starting point is 00:55:44 how quick would those guys believe it? Do you think they'd be like, well, I don't know, CNN's not a reliable source? It hasn't been confirmed. I mean, it's been confirmed, confirmed by everybody. His entire staff just quit. His campaign manager, deputy campaign manager, finance manager, senior advisor, they all quit. It's the most confirmed thing on planet Earth.
Starting point is 00:56:02 It's definitely traced back to them. They're like, I don't know, I need two, four or eight different confirmations. No, I don't believe it. If you said Tim Walz did it. But I knew it. You say it about comments. I mean, my God, I don't know what the number is, but it's a giant number. About a guess here, about a quarter of Republicans believe that Michelle Obama is a man.
Starting point is 00:56:27 with no evidence at all because Randobb on Facebook said a dog, oh yeah, I knew it, I knew it, right? This guy's like, hey, he raises his hand and says, online, I am a Nazi. They're like, I don't believe it. Okay, all right, just tell me that you hate the rest of the country and you will support anyone, including a literal Nazi, someone who literally wants to kill political opponents and literally he wants to bring back slavery, you'll support that guy over a Democrat. And then you're talking about how we want to unite the country. No, you don't, brother. You're exactly the person who wants to divide the country. Well, it's also interesting to see them pretend like they care about
Starting point is 00:57:12 sourcing and facts and accuracy on the immediate heels of the Springfield Ohio hoax. That made all its way all the way up to Trump in the debate. And it stemmed from what I understand, based on Wall Street Journal reporting, an elderly woman not realizing her cat was in her basement and just recklessly accusing Haitians in her neighborhood. So it was that, then spread by bad actors and just honestly idiots online. They're just believing everything they see. In fact, someone took a picture from Reddit from several months' prior to this of a guy who was cleaning roadkill off a road and said, this is a Haitian and he's eating your animals. And that spread like wildfire throughout the right. They had no problem
Starting point is 00:58:01 accepting that as fact. But when it's inconvenient for them now, I don't know about CNN. Andrew Kaczynski is a great investigative reporter, but it's just inconvenient for them so they can just point to accuracy and fairness and journalistic standards. You know, that thing we know the right cares about. But also to Michael Schor's work, he's so good at pulling these lines from people. I remember the super cut that you all made from his reporting at a Trump event several months ago asking, would you rather have four more years of Biden or dictator Trump for life? And they all said Trump. Just they're laying it out there. We don't care about democracy. We don't care about elections. We don't, we don't care about our system. He's our guy. If he's going to be an
Starting point is 00:58:49 authoritarian, I'm all for it. So credit to Michael Shore, but also this, that work is expensive. So becoming a TYT member is essential. So we can get more interviews like that. If not even just for the humor. It's very enjoyable to watch. You need his great work. Yeah. And that you could do that through t.com slash team. We'll have the link below. Look, last thing. And you'll see a lot of it on Rebel Headquarters where Jordan is as well, let alone Young Turks on YouTube. And by the way, sometimes when they say the right things, we also show that to you. So, you know, there are things that we do have in common. And we all are living under the same economic situations.
Starting point is 00:59:29 We're all living under corporate rule. We're all suffering under it, et cetera. So I'm not trying to make these guys look like they're the bad guys. But when you ask these simple questions, it's what Jordan just said is undeniable. They heard on a Facebook post that Miss Sassy was missing for a couple of days. Turns out the cats in the basement and half the Republicans, but I think maybe actually higher than that, believe that immigrants are eating cats and dogs because of the most random Facebook posts inaccurate one in history.
Starting point is 01:00:01 And they're like, reliable source. The other side proves definitively that the guy is saying these things. and they're like not a reliable source. Okay, you shut off your mind. There's nothing I could do for you once you shut off your mind. Okay, we got to go. Jordan, everybody, check them out on Rebel headquarters. Thank you, brother.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Great work. We got a whole other amazing hour ahead for you guys, including more about the election and how it's going. We'll be right back. You know,

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