The Young Turks - Inside Trump-a-Palooza - September 11, 2026

Episode Date: September 12, 2026

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Learn more at Bloomberg.com. We must stop the terror. Now watch his drive. Begaugh! Thank you with John Iderlo with you guys. We've got a special guest for you in just a minute. But first I want to tell you what's happening on the show. J.D. Vance is out there doing a C.Y.A. operation pretending that he was always against the war. The New York Times is helping him out. We'll get to that. And the important implication of that story is not just about J.D. Vance in 2028. More importantly, it's about which direction this war is going. Spoiler alert.

Not a good one. In fact, later in the show, we're gonna explain how the war has now widened. The Houthis have taken even more territory than yesterday, and now we're down two straights, not just one. And I believe we're at this point, in an unprecedented situation where we're not in a quagmire, we're not bogged down, we're literally losing a war, which is unreal. But that's where we are today. Meanwhile, Israel first, of course, always wildly attacking.

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I will go off on them later. and the Democrats in their infinite incompetence can't figure out to do with what to do with the AI potential meltdown of existence. They're still studying whether they should study it. So we'll get to Keem Jeffries and his intense incompetence a little later. But first, the Republicans are having some sort of midterm convention and Tara Palmieri went to it. There was a lot of crazy things that happened in that convention, talking about killing Abdul al-Said, showing Hassan Pikers underwear, and Trump calling some of the Republicans ugly,

like physically, literally. But Tara asked questions about Jeffrey Epstein. They don't like that. So Tara joins us now. Good to see you. Thanks for having me. Yeah, so I went to the convention, the second day of the convention. And I was with three Epstein survivors.

By the way, they had guest passes. They were allowed to attend just like every American. And I was there as a member of the press. And so we were talking to a congressional candidate. And we asked him, well, I asked him, will you vote to release the rest of the files? Will you vote to continue hearings? Very basic questions. Do you believe other people should be prosecuted outside of Glenn Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein?

just very calm interaction. And we only spoke to him. That was the only person we spoke to. No signs, no shirts, no protests, just like four women having a conversation with actually very pleasant man who at the end of the conversation shook my hand and gave me his card and said, call me anytime. But apparently just being in that stadium was a sign of aggression. And I turned around and there were four burly security.

security guards telling me that I had to leave. And not just me, the three Epstein survivors, they also had to leave. And we were all removed from the stadium. We were there for a total of 35 minutes inside. That's it. That's all we got inside. And they walked us out and it was just very aggressive. Like I literally fell down the stairs on my way out because they were just pushing us, like not physically pushing, but they were hassling us to move out as quickly as possible. It was so it was so uncalled for. You can see the video. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So what happened. Yeah, and it depends on your definition of uncalled for. I mean, if you're trying to hide a giant pedophile ring, then maybe it is called for. And if you feel guilty about it and you know that it was you, then maybe it is called for to kick out the Epstein survivors. But let's show that video that Tara is talking about. Let's go to the one where she's interviewing the congressional candidate, and then John and I ask a couple questions.

As soon as we were done, some very burly looking security guards, at least three of them were around me. And they were telling me that I had to leave the premises. So I walked away with the survivors of Jeffrey Epstein. It was not a great situation. They wouldn't tell me why I was being removed. They just said your press credentials can be revoked for any reason. It's not harassing this man.

But thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it. Do you? Yeah. Ladies, take care, huh? Okay, thanks so much. Yeah, reach out to me. I'll give you a card. I don't have any skin in the game, but that's what it is. This isn't even where our media said so, right?

We're allowed to talk to gas. Okay. So yeah, we're a lot to talk to people. That's why we're here, we're media. That's why you're making a super simple question. We don't have to clear bags. It's no time. I think they're making this more difficult than it has to be.

Okay, okay. Yeah, let's go. And two more participating too. We're allowed to have. You reenter, I'm gonna get with the police. I'm gonna ask them to trespass you. Does this sound like you, you're lying in bed and suddenly you realize it's 2 a.m. And you've been doom scrolling for hours.

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So that was when Alex Jones and Roger Stone came onto our set and disrupted our live show. And so I wonder now if this is going to affect people going to Republican events because they're basically saying the press is only welcome if they kiss our ass. But if you ask an interesting question or if someone trespasses against you or does something to you, we're not really gonna protect you. Like, could this be a real problem for Republicans in the future, given that people start to worry about like, is my safety okay there?

Is this still America? Can we ask questions? Or is reporting not allowed at any of these Republican events? I agree with you. There was no reason to remove us from the event at all. We weren't causing a disruption. There were no protests. There were no signs.

Your situation sounds like you generally, needed security. In my situation, we didn't need security. They separated us from the group. And I don't think this man was really quite trauma informed these security guards. They're dealing with sexual assault survivors and they were being aggressive. And the women were incredibly rattled. I mean, I'm a journalist. I've been doing this for 18 years and I was rattled by it because it was such an outsized reaction to what actually happened. What's so concerning to me is that this is a political event and they were pretty much showing us that free speech is not welcome there. And so as you can see from the conversation with the congressman or the congressional candidate,

he was fine with having the dialogue. He actually said to me at the beginning, this is an important topic. And I said, oh, great, why do you think it's an important topic? He said, we need to get down to the bottom of it. I think both Republicans and Democrats can agree that this is an important topic. But all the way at the top, there's a different opinion. Yeah. Can I jump in for a second, Jane? Because it seems ironic to me that had you returned and they called the cops on you, you likely would have suffered greater legal consequences than virtually anyone in the Epstein files,

including very prominent and powerful people. So you say that we can all agree that it's an important issue. And I agree that it does. Obviously, at the top levels, it's a complete cover up. Did you get the sense in any of the speeches you heard or any of the either speakers or regular people, that there is any lingering interest whatsoever in looking into this or the people that would attend an event like this as ready to move on from it as like Donald Trump. Well, that is exactly why I showed up there and I was with Epstein for survivors was

because I wanted to understand if the Republican base had moved on from this story. I wanted to understand the cognitive dissonance between supporting President Trump and also wanting the Epstein files to be revealed. I wanted to understand where they stood. And if that's still an issue and a platform for someone like J.D. Vance, who at one time actually cared about this, he really is gonna run in the future. This is something I personally can't get my head around. I mean, I just had Nancy Mace on my show and I asked for the same thing.

You're a sexual assault survivor. You voted for the Epstein files. Trump refused to endorse you in a primary, even though you're one of his closest allies because of the Epstein files. And you still think he's a good man? There is this strange cognitive dissonance. It's like if Trump says it's over, it's over. over. And I thought that since the survivors were in town for the reading room, they wanted to go.

They actually asked me if I could, you know, how they could get tickets. And they got tickets and they arrived. And then that's what happened. I just feel bad that this happened to them because they were not looking for this app. And we actually talked about earlier on how we didn't want this to be antagonistic. They weren't going to wear any shirts or signs. They like it was just going to be general talking to people documenting it and they were very, very upset that it ended up like this. But we're gonna put out the full footage on Sunday so everyone can see exactly how the whole day went down from the beginning to the end and the whole hour and a half, but 35 minutes is how long we lost it inside, which is really quite telling.

Yeah, and by the way, the substack page for Tara is the red letter. And you could also check out the Tara Palmary show. Johns, of course, hosts Damage Report. You can check that out on YouTube and everywhere else, TYT is as well. So Tara, I want to stay on this for one more minute. And then I will transition to the other things that happen, like wanting to shoot Abdul al-Saeed and how ugly Ken Paxton is and all that stuff that happened at the convention. Sounds very normal.

But so you're absolutely right that you're actually offering an opportunity for people. And I'm not saying that like in a glib way. So if Republican politicians, Congress member, senators have a different position than Donald Trump on Epstein, that might really help them to clarify it, right? To say, hey, I want the Epstein files released, right? And here's what I've done, and here's why I care about it. It gives them an opportunity to distinguish themselves, right? And for Republican voters, I don't think that they want to keep the Epstein files, you know, undercover.

And so if you ask them, they would, my guess is they would probably be on our side, right? And so, but now we don't get to find out. We're all told, no, they are all Trump clones and they all love burying the Epstein files. And that's the effect of what you experienced. So more generally, when you talk to Republican politicians, but also Democratic politicians about this, what's your sense, Tara? Is it that they're all, and you could separate out the two different parties, but that they're all like, yeah, let's wrap this up, let's wrap this up, who cares, who cares, don't ask me any questions

about it, or are there people who are genuinely like, no, I'm kind of pissed, like, I really want to know what happened. I mean, because Tara, like, if I'm in Congress, I would think, wait, our government knew about Jeffrey Epstein back during the Iran-Contra affair, the guy had tapes on all these powerful people, I'd really, really want to know what happened. So do you get that sense from anyone in the Republican Party outside of the Trump administration? And then also for the Democratic Party. This is the thing.

The Epstein files touch the very center of American power. And they have for the past two decades, regardless of administration, okay? And there's a reason why we haven't seen three million files. The men that are included in this could bring down a world economy. I remember when one of the survivors showed me the men that she was trafficked to in 2019, my mouth dropped. I said, wow, these are some of the most powerful people in the world. Democrats on the Hill are also beholden to them.

They are rich, wealthy donors. You know, then there's the whole angle of intelligence, right? Who was he working for at the time? And did we use him as an intelligent asset ourselves? And so it gets very murky around Jeffrey Epstein. So I do think some politicians, some of the younger ones are willing to scratch the surface of it. But I think the ones who have been around for a while know better not to. For example, why hasn't Leon Black been held under contempt yet?

He blew off Congress. Not only did he blow off a subpoena, but he sued Congress. And he's been accused of multiple, accused by multiple women of sexual harassment. In fact, in this 84 page prosecution memo that I'm looking at right now from 2019, he's mentioned twice by two different survivors. And yet there's never been an open investigation against him. Of course, he denies all of this. But what is, what's going on with Congress? Why not just hold them under contempt?

That's what you would do to anyone else. Hold them in contempt. Yeah, no, no, it's because they're not the boss of Leon Black. Leon Black is the boss of them. And that's the inescape of the conclusion here, right? You nailed it. So, all right, John. Yeah, do you want to move on to some of the other events that happened at the event?

Because obviously, you know, we've seen the video and everything. It would be good to get the read of someone who was actually there. Why don't we start off with Abdul al-Syad? Abdul-Aid has been like a major obsession on the right. They can't stop talking about him about how he's a communist, even though he's not, how he wears those damn black t-shirts and just looks too good and it bothers them too much when he does that. Well, some in the audience apparently weren't content just to beat him in the election. They wanted more to happen. So why don't we jump into this video?

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had something terrible said at their events that they've called it out. John McCain, obviously, you know, showed a little bit of like moral fiber. Ted Cruz just I guess doesn't have it in him. But I don't know, Tara, is that like a vibe that you got there, this sort of desire for retribution or were most people content just to, you know, have a problem with how extreme the Islamists and the socialists have gotten on the democratic side. I was talking to a girlfriend this morning who lives in Italy and she said to me, what is up with you Americans? You are just so obsessed with, like, there's just Muslims. They are so obsessed with Muslim people in this country right now. There's so much Islamophobia.

I just, I don't understand it. And I said, it's true. And it's funny that, you know, obviously El-Sayed and Hassan Piker, they're the puncher. bags right now. They are the epitome of socialism, radicalism. They're the big, scary Muslims, like one of them, a Muslim in the Senate. How terrible could that be, right? And it's funny because they show this picture of Hassan Piker and basically in his, I guess, underwear. And he looks hot. And this is the, this is the entire party that is, you know, everyone, every Democrat's low tea. I'm like, okay, that guy is not low T. And the whole thing is just absurd.

It's just been obsession. They like to say the name El-Sayed because it sounds so foreign and dark and scary. I mean, it's just absurdity. Why can't we just call it what it is? It's racism. Yeah. That's what it is. It's racism.

But Tara, you know, just real quick on that, the reason why it's not getting called out is because, in my opinion, and I'm curious what you think, because most of mainstream media does very, very similar racism. Like the dark Muslim terrorists, terrorists, terrorists, Abdul Saeed, Hassan Piker, Hassan Piker, Abdul al-Said. 9-11, 9-11, Asan Piker, Abdul al-Said. I don't see any difference between Dana Bash and Ted Cruz. So I think mainstream media is not calling it out because they realize they're just as bigoted against Muslims as any of these Republicans. I think it's less, okay, I think they're a legitimate question.

about comments that Hassan Piker has made in the past if he's going to go out there and campaign. If he wants to remain as a Twitch star and he wants to be a podcaster, fine. But the second you get involved in politics and people campaign with you, then yes, the things you say in the past, you become answerable for. And he's said that he's taken back what he said, fine. But regardless, he has become the boogeyman because these Democrats, they need a boogeyman. They want, I mean, the Republicans need a boogeyman. They know that their president is unwise and that he decided to turn this election into a referendum on himself, as you can see from Trump of Palooza.

This is the last thing they needed. They do not want this election to be a referendum on President Trump who is at a 33, 34% approval rating right now. So everybody else around him is saying, okay, who can we make this referendum on? I know, scary Muslims. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, look, maybe we disagree a little bit on this. Socialists, yes. No, I hear you on all that tire, but at the same time, it's not like mainstream media is asking

about Mike Rogers and his connections to Netanyahu and how Netanyahu murdered 23,000 kids, which is only a billion times worse than anything Hassan has said. So no, they're purposely ignoring everything about Mike Rogers, including that he's for data centers and I can go on and on. And they are purposely nonstop bringing up Muslims and 9-11 and all those. comments, I think that, I mean, if you look at it as an objective outsider, in my opinion, it looks like mainstream media is trying to help the Republicans do their bigoted propaganda by only, only focusing on that issue. And honestly, I think they've said it way more than the

Republicans have. They've said thousands of times. And they've never mentioned a single thing wrong with Mike Rogers. So no, I, you know, we might disagree there. I think mainstream media is a bunch of enormous bigots. Do you think they're overcompensating in some ways? Oh yeah, I think that they're guilty. I think mainstream media is totally in cahoots with the Uniparty and the establishment. And I think that they do the same exact talking points. And if it was up to mainstream media, they would love to bury the Epstein files.

And that is super weird for reporters or journalists. I mean, Tara, if it wasn't for you, if it wasn't for Julie Brown, and if it wasn't for a couple of intrepid and dogged reporters, mainstream media wouldn't know, it would have never covered this story. They would have never uncovered what happened with Epstein. They would have never got into the files. We know that, that's a fact. They didn't. They assiduously avoided this massive story, this bombshell of a story. And what? They don't care about bombshells of stories? Basically what they're saying is, no, we're working with the corrupt people in power to bury any news of beloved Epstein and beloved Israel.

Let's keep it real, that's what's happening here. So I don't see any difference between CNN and Trump and Ted Cruz. I don't see any difference. In fact, I think CNN is much bigger bigots because they normalize bigotry. We know Trump and Cruz are bad guys, but you don't expect CNN or a lot of people that are older don't expect CNN to be the bad guys. And CNN is like, no, no, you guys are right. Muslims, Muslims, Hassal Pai, Abdul-I, Abdul-Sah, you should hate Muslims, Muslims, Muslims.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. But meanwhile, you're not worried about Epstein? You're not worried about the guy who raped our kids and this giant organization that did it? And this giant organization within our government that is currently to this day hiding all the guilty pedophiles who did it? That's not interesting. But what Hassan Pikes said on a Twitch stream is infinitely interesting. No, they're definitely bigots. And they're definitely in cahoots with whoever is covering up the most evil things that have happened inside our government.

That's my opinion. I do think there is a, well, you know that I see you coming in and out of Washington from time of time. We bump into each other. But there is a sort of brain juice that they're all drinking, right? And it's a sheep-like mentality. Someone, you know, when I was a young reporter, I remember a White House correspondent told me this. He's like, whatever you do, Tara, do not follow the pack. do not follow the pack because they're all going to chase the same story.

They're all going to go about it the same way. I think a lot of these survivors, I think a lot of these reporters, I think they do do it out of, well, they know what their boss wants. They know what they pitch will actually make it onto a website or on TV. They know how survived. So maybe they haven't seen the explicit plan. This is the strategy if there is one. But they know what their boss wants and likes.

And that is how they work accordingly. I mean, it's just a fact. Yeah. If you can't, if you can't get your work published, you're gonna get fired. And so, and if they don't like your, your questioning, your line of questioning. So it's not that I think that like Dana Bash is in cahoots with Ted Cruz and President Trump and the CIA. You know, it's like, I think that there is a whole establishment in which everyone sees the same thing, the same way. Doesn't matter what party they're in.

They're all eating at the same restaurants, right? And it's just this clubbiness. And there's an understanding from the top, what will be accepted and what will not. And if you don't do it, it's accepted, you will not be promoted. Yeah, no, I'm glad to you clarify, Tarr, because I totally agree. Like, I don't think there's a memo written. I don't think Dana Bash goes and talks to Ted Cruz, you know, in a parking lot somewhere and goes, oh, what should we do to smear Muslims and help Israel or something?

No, it doesn't work that way. It's not anything comical like that, et cetera. It is exactly what you described. Their bosses, by the way, do do that. Their bosses, the editors, the publishers, they have an understanding that you must protect the powerful. And those are access is how they frame it, how they cover it up, et cetera. No, their bosses are borderline evil, maybe way past the borderline.

But no, they don't have to give a memo to a reporter, you're absolutely right. And they don't give memos to reporters. The only time they ever actually say it out loud is when there's a pain in the ass guy like me in the building, like when I was at MSNBC, then the head of MSNBC was forced to say to me, shut up. Like don't, right? I wish I could have seen that. Yeah, don't criticize the insiders in DC.

He literally said that, right? But normally you don't have to say that. Everybody in the building gets it. We're all doing the same stupid story and oh, don't question the propaganda, don't question what your editor wants you to cover, just get the clicks, get this, get that, etc. So the, you know, I wrote an editorial now 15 years ago or so saying fire the editors. Because it's obvious that the editors are the problem. They're the ones assigning garbage stories to push bigotry, to push agendas, and refuse

to cover super important stories that Americans care about. I want to give Abdul Sait an opportunity to respond to what happened, so let's show that real quick too. Look, I'm a dad with two daughters, and I hope those daughters get to grow up and live with their dad. This is what has become norm in our politics. I mean, literally calls to violence and the inability for anybody to actually call it out. Democracy is supposed to be the process by which we solve our problems peacefully. We can learn to disagree agreeably. And when you hear that kind of call to violence, it should be shuddering to all of us.

We have a responsibility to lower the temperature to realize that this is not a blood sport where you're just trying to bash the other guy. This is about actually solving problems that real people face. The reason I got into politics is not because I wanted to beat Republicans. I got into politics because I wanted to heal people and I realized that our health care system was failing to do that, more interested in billing than healing. And so I hope that everybody who heard that is going to call it out for what it is. a call to violence that ought to be condemned across the board. I want to tell you about a new podcast series I'm enjoying from future hindsight, Occupy, an unfinished uprising.

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That's also from there. I actually want to skip ahead to the propaganda video. So they ran a propaganda video for Donald Trump for Donald Trump in the convention. I want to run that for the audience, show it to them and then get Tara and John's reaction. And on June 14th, 1946, God looked down on his plan paradise and said, I need a caretaker. So God gave us Trump. God said, I need somebody willing to get up before dawn, fix this country, work all day, fight the Marxist, eat supper, then go to the Oval Office and stay past midnight at a meeting of the heads of state. So God made Trump.

I need somebody with arms, strong enough to rustle the deep state. Get gentle enough to deliver his own grandchild. Somebody to ruffle the feathers, tame cantankerous World Economic Forum. Come home hungry. Have to wait until the first lady is done with lunch with friends. Then tell the ladies to be sure and come back real soon and mean it. So God gave us Trump.

I need somebody who can shape an axe but wield a sword, who had the courage to step foot in North Korea, who can make money from the tar of the same. sand turned liquid to gold, who understands the difference between tariffs and inflation will finish his 40 hour week by Tuesday noon, but then put in another 72 hours. So God made Trump. So Tara, I know you were there for a brief period of time, but is there anyone left in the country, including at that convention? That's mental enough to believe any of that, that Trump is a big protector of woman and he works so hard and he's so brilliant and things are going so well.

It's completely bonkers. I mean, this video is just like from another sci-fi. I don't know how else to describe that video. It's just bizarre to me. The people in Dallas were very charged up about Trump. But, you know, they were people who don't work during the day. They're mostly boomers with their cowboy hats. And I remember hearing one woman say, you can't tell me anything bad.

about Trump. And when you have that mentality, there's nothing you can tell them. They probably watch a video like that and they're mesmerized by it. And that video was made for one person and one person only and that was President Trump so that he could play it over and over again at night when he's at home all night alone or making phone calls. But yeah, that is just some weird chat. I don't know, I'll subscribe it. There are like services, online, which I hate as a father of a young daughter, that just like makes like slop videos for your kid to watch. And like you can put in photos and it'll make slop that features your kids. And that's what that video was for Trump. It's literally they didn't bring in an artist. It wasn't

directed. There wasn't a voice actor. All of that was just AI slop to please the dear leader. The redhats should not say maga. They should say slop. That should be the four letters. And the good news is that while, you know, the cult does remain in some form, I don't think there's nearly as many people this just blindly loyal to Trump as there used to be. If there were, they would not have had to give away tickets for free to this massive rally. They had to because Donald Trump is less popular than he's ever been. In the short term, I feel bad for the people who respect him and other Republicans who still have to sort of support him, because that video proves to me what's been proven multiple times over with Donald Trump over the last decade.

There has literally never been anyone in American politics with less respect for Christianity than Donald Trump, with less respect for the basic idea of religious faith or spirituality. This guy, like Bill Maher cannot insult Christianity, one-tenth as much as Donald Trump has, with the way he makes a mockery of it, with their personal, like, owes of loyalty to him, God caring so much about what Trump does. He can can't even pretend to have a preference between a verse from the Old Testament or the New Testament. This guy makes an absolute mockery of religious faith. And it like it honestly kills me to see so many devoted Christian Republicans who can't see the way that they're being manipulated. Can I can I also just point out it was not packed. I mean, I know he,

the convention center was not packed at all. They were giving out tickets as you can see the that Epstein survivors were able to get them the day of. And as a woman, seeing him catch Melania, she's tripping, just very weird. Yeah. I think I would be kissed if I saw that. And oh, and let the ladies have their lunch, like just such an antiquated version of reality. God, this guy is such a, like, he's just such a weird throwback. Yeah, I don't think they were going to put the video of Melania swatting his hand away.

in that. Yeah, that was the one time she actually clutched him because she had to. She was literally falling. She was a reflex. Yeah, I mean, that's probably the most affectionate we've ever seen them in public. Yeah. And then they were like, can we add AI to it? Can we, you know, make her look a little bit more, you know, loving? She looked up. So, but I'm fascinated by this topic of what remains of MAGA, because obviously we know what's left MAGA, right? So, Todd Carlson, MTG, that contingent is gone. Today, Tucker Carlson talking about, no, Abdul L. Sight's totally right about 9-11, and that you'd have to be nuts to vote for Mike Rogers.

I mean, what a turn of events that is, right? So but meanwhile, Trump is hinting to his audience, maybe we should cheat in the midterms. And so I'm curious what their reaction is to it, but let's pull up that video and show it to you first. Please raise your right hand. I pledge to the greatest president in the history of the United States that loves us so much he can't even breathe. Out with my family, my friends, I'll do it anyway. I don't care if I'm registered or not. I'm gonna try and cheat like hell like they do.

There's never been bigger cheaters that don't care. I am going to go out and I'm going to get my friends, my family, and we are going to vote on November 3rd or we are going to vote before that. Okay, Tara, obviously that crowd is eating that up. Like, ha, so funny, cheat, that's great. But there is something scary in there, which is they believe that their mission is so important, I mean, God selected Donald Trump, right, to do all this stuff, that, well, if you got to cheat to win, the mission is more important than democracy. So all this talk of like,

oh, endangering democracy, you're out, that's outraged, they'd never do that. And here's the president of the United States, having everybody raised their hand like an oath to God saying, we will cheat to win this election. So I guess my question is, since that's such an unrepresentative sample because they volunteered to stop doing whatever they're doing and go and celebrate Trump in this bizarro convention. But overall, what's your sense of how much of MAGA is going to show up to vote and how much is not? Because I think their number one issue in these midterms is voter turnout.

Absolutely. He's not on the ballot, but he's not popular anyway. I was talking to a lot of very close allies of President Trump at the convention later on afterwards, you know. And they're preparing for a wipeout. And they were just like, I don't know why we're here. I don't know why we're celebrating. It's not looking pretty. Even if he insists everyone cheats, whatever that means, you know, he started a warning.

in Iran. It's so unpopular. And he refuses to acknowledge that that's going to cost them the midterms alone. This is, and he, and he, they, people that have spoken to said that he is not aware of how bad it is going to be after this election. There's going to be impeachment. There's going to be trials. There's going to be hearings. All the hijinks they were up to for the first two years, everyone's going to be exposed. Then there's not going to be any loyal people around President Trump because he can't run again, whether he likes to think so or not. Things are about to shift and you could almost feel it. So whatever this desperate cheat, whatever idea he has, very bizarre.

It's just it's not reality, it's just not in touch with reality. There was no reason to have a rally in Texas. I mean, does it help Paxton? Maybe that's the only person it could help, but you know, half the time he said that products too. Yeah, well, we're gonna, I'm gonna show that in a sec here. But yeah, look, I'll have a controversy opinion here. I actually, look, I think the war is gonna get much, much worse after the midterms, much worse.

The economy is gonna crash. I think it's gonna be an absolute debacle. But as long as Trump is still doing Israel's wishes, I don't think it's gonna get that bad for him. I think Akeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer will be like, huff and puff and puff, but golly, gee, is he still in the war for Israel? Yay, yay, yay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh no, impeachment, we cannot do that. That is very bad. We tried before, could not do it.

So we'll see, we'll see, let's hope I'm wrong. But you mentioned Camp Haxson, let's show you that video and get your reaction. You've probably seen our band in the UK shirt, the one we dropped after the UK government tried to silence the son of me. And thanks to our partners at Shopify, we were able to get that shirt up on ShopT T.R.T.R.T. quickly and painlessly. We've been running our store through Shopify for a while now. And if you're thinking about starting your own business, whether it's your own merch, a side hustle, or your dream project, Shopify is the place to do it.

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You might not like the way he looks. You might not love his look. You might not love his television interviews. He may not dress right. He may not talk exactly perfectly. And he may not be the best looking guy I've ever seen. But you know what he is? He's the greatest attorney general in America. I said, I'm not sure if I like your look. I'm not sure if I like the way you dress. I don't like the way you talk. I said, I don't like the way Ken dresses. Although I also said he looked really sharp in that suit yesterday. I thought. spiffy.

And then I said, I don't really like the way Ken talks. And then I said something that they really hated. Please, sir, don't say it, sir. So I'm not going to say it, but I'll tell you what I was thinking about, sir. I said, I don't really like the way it looks. I don't like it. He's such a jerk. He's unbelievable.

How does this help, John? Paxton, Ken Paxton win in Texas. I mean, if the whole convention, like 50% of the point was to help Paxton win, I mean, I don't know that the Democrats could have beat up on him worse than Trump did. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things to not like about Ken Paxton right now. The guy's messy at best. And even the ladies of Republican ladies in Texas know that as well. the extramarital affair, not great, you know, the mistress being outside of the courthouse. It's just all a mess. His wife is a state senator. I know that's just kind of the gossip, but that really impacts the family values voters in Texas, especially women. They don't like

those stories. So focusing on the way he looks and all, it's just like that's just so random. Ken Paxone has so much baggage. I mean, he had a fraud indictment. I mean, it was dropped in 2025 for whistleblower and impeachment cases, financial omissions, voter fraud allegations. Like this guy has more baggage than I don't know, the jumbo jet. That's a bad habit. That's a bad cliche.

But you know what I mean? He's just, this guy's, that's all you have to say is he's like not good looking. John, last word. Yeah, and I think it's a great thing to do in particular to a candidate who is trying to win over Texas conservatives that already don't like him, that you're like, okay, so technically Trump is supporting you, but we're gonna make you sit in the cuck chair for an entire convention as he slaps you across the face over and over, makes you look like a little B. What Texas man is gonna respect that?

Who is gonna think, yeah, he's the guy that should represent. the greatest state in the nation. It makes him look like a tiny little baby boy who can't defend himself. It's such a great point, John. I just put two and two together as you were saying that. What is it about Texas Republicans that Trump loves to humiliate? So Ted Cruz's wife is ugly. Ken Paxton is ugly. And of course, for Trump, it's all about me, me, me, me, me. And that was the whole point of this convention, right? Tara, it had nothing new with Paxton. He might have done damage to Paxton. Did he do damage to other Republicans? Yeah, by associating them with a president who's at a 32% approval rating. But wasn't this one giant exercise in making Trump happy because we're talking about him

and glorifying him the whole time? Yeah, this was a Trump party. I don't know what else you could describe it as a rally in which everyone in the cabinet had to sit through it and then speak before. They had delegates on the floor, but for what? No one was being nominated. It's very bizarre. That's so dumb.

You know, but why do you have delegates on the floor? It looks like a convention. It feels like a convention, but it's not a convention because no one's being nominated. So nothing's actually happening. There's no purpose to this gathering. Yeah, I think it's just a perpetual nomination for Donald Trump. And that's why he's like, yes, it's me again, me again. I've never seen such a child in my life.

All right, $40 million wasted, though, by the way, on that. Oh, my God. Yeah, because Trump has $400 million. He's got to spend it on him. So he's like, how can I come up with an excuse to spend it on me while pretending it's about the midterms? He didn't, though. He didn't spend the money. That was the R&C that had to raise that money.

He's not spending his own money. Come on. You think he's going to spend his money? That's unbelievable, man. You're absolutely right. They have already put it out there. They have already put it out there that he's going to keep the money. Of course he is.

Of course, which idiot Republican thought he was gonna raise money and then spend it on someone else. I mean, you've just gotta be the dumbest person in America to believe that. All right, everybody check out the red letter. That's Tara's substack. Check out the Tara Palmieri show. Tara, we really appreciate you join us. Thank you.

Of course, thanks so much, guys. All right. John and I are gonna come right back. We've got more amazing stories for you guys, including J.D. Vance trying to cover his ass about this war because he knows, uh-oh, this thing's gonna be way worse. We'll do that one more your turn. The key for me is to keep expectations low. All right, back on social break here. Pseudo-Dragon on t.com says I don't believe him,

I don't believe for a second that Hakeem Jeffries will even entertain the idea of impeaching Trump. Yeah, no, Hakeem Jeffries will do as the Israeli lobby orders him to do, period, not 98% 100%. So if the Israeli lobby likes that Trump is still in the middle of that war, Hakeem Jeffries will go, I've got my bat in my basement. Don't make me take it out. And he'll do nothing. He's a ghoul, he's a goblin. Oh, you don't like to say that about him. That's racist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hashtag suck it. Wong-John says, you can tell who's in control based on who gets silenced. The goal of the Republican parties to protect the Epstein class, not the victims. 100%. So, yeah, the Israeli lobby.

He's like, oh, we are such victims. Oh my God, we're the biggest victims of the country, anti-Semitism. Oh my God, right? And they're like, you, you get canceled, you get fired. You, you commit a war for Israel. You commit in China. It's like, you give me money. Oh, I am the victim.

No, you're not. You're 100% in charge. John Bojino says always loves seeing Tara Palm area on T. Love that. Dragon Fart, fun name says, what we need are 334 more Rokanas in an office. agree more, but you're not going to get it. The rest of our cowards. We'll be back. All right, back on TYT, Jank and John with you guys on Rage Rock for now. Thank you for giving 10 memberships on YouTube. You're awesome.

All right. So now let's go to our next story. Will this war be over by the time of the midterm elections? Well, Caitlin again, I don't. I wouldn't call it a war. Tonight, sources familiar with the attack telling ABC news that the recent barrage of Iranian strikes Targeting U.S. bases in the Middle East left nine U.S. warplanes damaged at a base in Jordan, including an A-10 attack aircraft that lost a wing. But President Trump telling News Nation that there was no damage to aircraft in this most recent attack, saying, quote, none whatsoever, no damage, no nothing.

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They are now pretending, oh, J.D. Vance has been against this war the whole time. He's got a curious way of showing it. But they have a whole new article about how he'd be behind the scenes. He's trying to figure out what he could do to stop the war. John, tell us all about it. Yeah, 100%. So I know that yesterday, TOT talked about this exclusive at the Wall Street Journal about how both J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio apparently communicated to Donald Trump that his economic blockade against Tehran was unlikely to work. The sort of warning that he also got about, you know, their ability to take over the straight-of-form moves and all that.

He got these warnings that never listens to him. But anyway, they also told him that this could potentially extend the conflict past inauguration day in January, 29. like two and a half years from now. Donald Trump, of course, has been going out this week and saying that the war is going to end the day after the midterms. Where have I heard that before? Ukraine. But anyway, look, the Ron War is also, it's already damaging the economy and both the war and the economic damage is hurting Republicans. Now just imagine two more years of that.

And imagine forever intends to run on the Republican side how much of an albatross around the neck this is going to be. So it makes sense that as we're gonna lay out, J.D. Vance wants to start to create this narrative that behind the scenes, he was always against it. Behind the scenes, he was always trying to get us out of this war, while in public, constantly defending it, agreeing to every lie that Donald Trump tells about it. So evidently, Marco Rubio is like out. He's done. He seems to get that the combined economic fallout and the war means that Republicans are going to have a very difficult chance. of actually winning next time. So he's, I guess, out. He's not going to be running for 2028. In fact, he'll support J.D. Vance as the nominee, and how much pleasure would it give Marco Rubio supporting J.D. Vance for J.D. Vance to go down in flames and end his presidential aspirations for his entire life. So maybe that'll happen, maybe it won't. But let's see what J.D. Vance is doing

to try to ward off some of that. So the New York Times has this little puff piece about how behind the scenes he's being really tough and proactive. And he's a really diligent hard worker when it comes to, interviewing a bunch of people in the military or whatever, like talking to them constantly about the war. So over the spring and summer, the New York Times tells us, he called U.S. military commanders in the Middle East, Europe, and Asia directly, seeking their unvarnished assessments of the Iran war, according to current and former officials. He wanted the commander's individual judgments, in their own words, before they were consolidated into a Pentagon view. Or before the generals were fired by Pete Hegesith for being women or black or whatever it is that causes them to get

cast out of the service. So the conversations delved into an array of issues related to the war, including its objectives, tactics, casualty estimates, what the Iranians would do in the Strait of Formuz, how adaptable they had become, and how much punishment their government could absorb. He wanted a detailed accounting of what remained in the commander's stockpiles and how the transfer of weapons to the Middle East would affect their ability to deter China, Russia, and North Korea. On that last point, the commanders were blunt. Yeah, the stockpiles are really low and we have far less capacity to deter our traditional rivals. We all know that. The administration has been lying about it. And J.D. Vance has been lying about that. He is an active part of the cover up of both the damage

that's being done and the overall damage, I guess you could say, to the amount of both offensive and defensive weaponry that we have. So, Jake, it's like all well and good that he's, I don't know, he's got pen pals in the military or whatever, but what good has it actually done for our military, for our economy. There's no distance between him and Donald Trump on the war publicly, and there never has been. What do you think? Yeah, there's three things that I get out of this story.

And the third one is the most important. So number one, this is an interesting side note you get out of the New York Times piece. They're like, J.D. Vance is calling these generals that we have in the Pacific, the Middle East, in Europe and he's asking for details about our preparedness. And a lot of people are saying that's in the weeds. And then he's often talking to the CIA and trying to figure out what's happening on the ground in Iran and other places that are relevant in this war. And they treated it like it was super weird.

Like, whoa, look at that. There's a vice president or somebody in the Oval Office who actually cares what's really happening on the ground. I'm like, wait, shouldn't they all care? I mean, if I was the vice president, you couldn't get me out of those offices. Well, how are you going to know what you should do with the war if you don't know what the hell's going on in the war? And they had through this little line in there, John, in the middle of the story about how contrasting advanced to Trump and how Trump, his decision making is so basically fact free and so unpredictable that advisors don't even bother trying to guess at what he's going to do. no one has any idea what decision he's going to make because he's doing it blind on the spot.

And I guess if you're used to that kind of moron, like someone doing a smidge of homework will seem shocking to you. Exactly. Yeah, look, the way I see it and the way I have seen it for a while, the Trump term so far has been a series of opportunities for people, men, basically, Republican men, who pretend on their podcasts that they have principles or something. It's opportunities for them to demonstrate it. All of them failed. On Epstein, Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, oh, they come in, we're gonna get justice, the sexual predators. And then they see that no, the cover-up is on, and they went along with it. They went along with it, they have no credibility anymore.

And when it comes to Iran, Tulsi Gabbard and J.D. Vance. And you could throw Mark of Rubio theoretically in there too. They could have stepped down. That's how you could show that you actually meant it when you said no wars. when in Tulsi Gabbard's case, you specifically warned against Donald Trump going to war with Iran. You could have done that. And then, hypothetically, J.D. Vance could spend the next couple of years as a critic of Donald Trump and say, hey, I was a loyalist, but he lost the way. But don't worry, you vote for me in 2028, and I'll do real MAGA. He could have done that. He chose not to do that.

He didn't have the bravery or the principles or the spine or the testicles or however you want to define it. Instead, he laid down. He submitted to Donald Trump because he was too scared. He didn't think that he could actually go it on his own. And so I hope, I can't wait for every Republican that runs against him to hang this war around his neck, to hang it around Pete Hagsit as well, because it looks like he's going to be running, and just tie JD Vance to every one of the failures that we're witnessing every day under this goddamn regime. Yeah, along those lines, John, you know, it's funny because they are tagging Tala Rico in Texas now. They have that convention in Texas and they're saying, oh, he's low T or, you know, the implying weirdo

things about him. You want to talk about low T? I mean, the Republican Party is a party of cucks. And I don't mean the voters because some of the voters have rebelled, but the politicians, like, as John pointed out in the last segment, he calls Ken Paxton ugly. And Ken Paxton is like, yes, thank you, sir, thank you, there. Igor's, please. He calls Ted Cruz's wife ugly, and he's like, thank you, sir, may I have another?

It's just the, nothing but cucks for Trump and Israel. It's the most pathetic set of politicians you've ever seen. They're so bad, they make the Democrats look, well, I can't spit out the words not so bad, right? But not quite as bad as Republicans, that's how disastrous they are. But anyways, what I wanted to say is that, look, if JD Vance is so, you know, against this war, and he's a tough guy, you know, agro guy, they do, they pretend, alpha male, right? John, wouldn't the way to prove that now be coming out and opposing the war today?

Not like, secretly behind you sees, Maggie, do some, and that's Maggie Haberman, Jonathan Swan, this piece that is somewhat helpful in some of the details we find out, but also a giant propaganda piece for JD Vance. And they'd be absurd to deny that. It's obviously Vance in his office that are leaking this. So, oh, J.D. Vance is very against the war, really? And why don't you say it, JD? Go ahead, say it. Yeah. Say it. Yeah. And honestly, Jank, if we could go to Graphic 7, I think that this kind of is going to backfire on him a little bit.

Because so at Graphic 7, he obsessively tracks the daily minutia, military operations, internal dynamics of the Iranian political system, the source of intelligence assessments. So like there are people who will be able to run and say, you know what? I believe the president. And unfortunately, he was giving us a too rosy picture of the war and I was led astray. J.D. Vance can't do that. J.D. Vance now has citations. He knows exactly how bad it is. He knows about the damage to the vehicles and the damage to the bases. He knows about how many people are actually being killed. And so when he goes out and says, you know, that it's not that way, he's actively lying. He knows better than Donald Trump how bad it is. He's actually in some

ways almost more culpable, more guilty when he talks about the war because Donald Trump doesn't know a goddamn thing about what's going on. He just does what Benjamin Nanyahu tells him to do. JD fans, I think should have more, the onus is on him to be a little bit more responsible. Yeah, but then how would he raise money from Miriam Edelson and Mark Rowan and and all the people in New York and DC and Vegas that, you know, a fund all repulsive. And to be fair to them, all of Democratic politics too. The giant, giant Israeli lobby, so he has to say to them, no, no, no, no, no, I'm on your side.

I'm just lying about being against the war. Look, I'm a dog, I'm your puppy. Do you see me like trying to end the war? No, I'm helping you perpetuate the war. I'm helping Trump perpetuate the war. So give me the money. And Maggie and Jonathan, okay, be my press agents and write about how I'm imposed to the war. And I'll quote that for the rest of my life.

Oh, I'm such a smart guy, I know exactly what's going on in the war. war and I was totally secretly done that done done done that and done against it behind the scenes really okay and that leads me to my third and final and most important point which is wait a minute why are they leaking like hell like no no no I was opposed to the war no no no no and Rubio's going oh forget it I mean he's been wanting to run for president his whole life that did it before he was definitely in a run and now he's like yeah I'll let bands lose this one John it seems obvious from all of that that oh my god this war is going way worse than even we realize.

Yeah, yeah, it's looking like that. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry, continue. No, I was just gonna say, look guys, don't be surprised when not bad news, but disastrous news around the corner. I think we're all clear that we're almost out of defensive missiles, we're out of our most sophisticated offensive missiles. Iran gave us a warning shot with their attack on one of our ships.

They didn't try that hard according to experts that we've talked to. And it seems like if they do try hard, it's not gonna be hard to sink one of our ships. They've absolutely decimated our bases in Jordan and in the Gulf countries. And by the way, one of the reasons to decimate our bases in Jordan is not just to punish us, but is to knock out some of Israel's defenses. So, and let alone the talk of tactical nuclear weapons. So I think that the jury has come in at the White House. This war is an epic disaster.

The American people are going to despise what happens next. And we got to get that stench off of us by any means necessary, even as we executed on behalf of our donors. Yeah. Do you want to do this last quick story? Yeah, I know. I definitely do. Yeah. So let's go to that.

Okay. I'll start it off. Okay. That's a good sign that you could trust them. I don't see Israel first attacking any other Democrat. So well, let's take a look at why that's happening. Progressive policies are beating big money. We saw this with Abdul Saeed's win in Michigan.

We saw it with Peggy Flanagan's win in Minnesota. We saw it with Randy Vygas's win in California. APEC poured millions into these races, yet progressives won. Why? Because they stood up for no A&A. up for no aid to Israel. They stood up against foreign wars. They stood up for taxing billionaire wealth. They stood up, yes, for Medicare for all. That is the agenda that can mobilize this country and win back the House, Senate, and White House. They don't like that. So John, who took great offense

at that? How dare he be, how dare there be one person in Washington who is not on their knees? for Israel. Yeah. Well, we're going to go to some of the people that responded. And I was hoping to see as I read these who you've tussled with online. But then as I was producing, I saw that you actually responded to some of them. So I feel like these are people that you fought with in the past. So Jamie Metzel, one shared world founder, some AI stuff, the Atlantic Council, former NSC, says, it's hard not to see your obsessive focus on Israel over every other conflict area in the world and your failure to even consider the history and complexity of the Israel-Palestine conflict as anything other than bigotry and anti-Semitism. As a loyal and lifelong Democrat and a human rights advocate,

I say this with a heavy heart, not least because I imagine you do not see yourself as a toxic bigot. And I agree with that one part of it. I don't think Rokin of things of himself as a toxic bigot because he is not. Yeah, it's yeah, complex history, Israel, Palestine. Which of the two is rubble right now? Which of the two is gone? Which of the two has been ethnically cleansed? Because I feel like we're talking as if this is still just like an ongoing thing. No, they decimated Gaza.

Like I feel like you should update your tweet for that. But anyway, yeah. So it's just, it's just bigotry. That's all it is. Jank, why would Rokana be focusing on Israel right now? What have they possibly done that would cause worldwide impacts? Yeah, no, John, I haven't tussled with these people before, but there's a billion of them. Everybody in Washington is Israel first.

So, you know, I'm getting through the list one by one. Eventually, they'll all hate me and that'll be wonderful. So this guy, Jamie Metzell, I, you know, I do. To be clear, Jank, you did respond to that tweet. No, no, no, I know. I did today. I'm saying I didn't know him before today, right? Sure, sure. And the guy before, the other guy we're gonna get to and say.

So with a guy like Jamie, I don't know. So there's like, there's people who still support Israel. We're not talking about all Jewish Americans, tons of Jewish Americans don't even support Israel or don't support Zionism and certainly tons of them don't support this Israeli government that's the current one and don't support the genocide, right? We're just now talking about people who support Israel, right? So when you get into that category, there's still a lot of wonderful people who just, you know, we're taught Israel's a kibbutz and wonderful and the palace.

Palestinians are all terrorists, and they shouldn't believe that, but the overwhelming propaganda and they don't necessarily mean harm. Then they're leaders like Jamie Metzell. And I wonder if they're just as delusional or they know they're lying. And I think for leaders like that, I fall in the camp of he's actively lying. And so what he's doing is obvious, right? He's like, oh, we murdered, we as in his beloved Israel, murdered 23,000 Palestinian kids, 75,000 people overall.

We'll have the worst civilian kill ratio of any terrorist group in the world. Hamas is 67% civilians killed in their attacks. IDF is 83% according to IDF's own numbers that were leaked to the Israeli press. So they're the biggest terrorist organization in the world. And like Metzl might think, yeah, but they're only Palestinians. Palestinian kids, their lives are irrelevant and useless and worthless. So good, I'm glad we slaughtered them, we got to keep 70% of Gaza. And what a great idea was to pretend it was self-defense.

And then when, as we're doing this slaughterhouse, I'll pretend that anyone who's opposed to a genocide is the bigot. Not the person doing the genocide. A genocide by definition is as racist as you could possibly be, because that is murdering people because they're in a certain race or religion. I mean, it's not just like, hey, I offended you, it's because I murdered you because you're a Palestinian. And if he objects to that, I don't care at all, I don't care about their propaganda,

all I care about is the facts. So would they have murdered 23,000 Israeli Jewish children? Even if Hamas was hiding right behind them, right? Their excuse of, oh, they're hiding with behind human shields. We had to murder all the humans there. all the civilians because Hamas was hiding behind them. Oh, golly, gee, did I massacre your children and then blame you for it? Yeah, that's exactly what you're doing, Jamie Metzel.

It's really disgusting and as bigoted a position as you could possibly have. So would they have done it to 23,000 Israeli Jewish children? Well, of course they wouldn't have done it. Of course not. But they do it to the Palestinians and then they go, it's no big deal. And anyone who objects is a bigot. We get to murder your kids. And if you complain about it, we call you a bigot.

So that's a trick. That's a disgusting, dirty, evil trick. To deny a genocide, to support a genocide, and to make sure that we all fund a genocide. You better pay Israel to murder more Palestinians. Otherwise, I'm going to call you all bigots. And since I'm not actually a victim, like he's like pretending he's the victim. Us pro-Israel people have no power in this country. We're so worried about being victims.

Are you crazy? Why are you the one giving orders? Rokana's not allowed to do this. You're canceled. You better not object. You're the bigot. Destroy them. Take them off the air, right?

Right? I'm sure that if he watches this, he'll be like, outrage. How can that guy be allowed on air? Remember, no one who's opposed to Israel is allowed on air. They're all anti-Semites, destroy them, right? Jamie, right? You're gonna try to destroy us? It doesn't matter if you do.

You're gonna have to get in a super long line of all the pro-Israel people who believe they're entitled to call everyone else bigots, they're entitled to your money to commit a genocide, and they're entitled to make sure that you're never allowed to speak on air because they're offended. All right, I'm a billion times more offended because you slaughtered these kids. Oh, trope, trope, trope, yeah, yeah, yeah. To put your tropes where the sun don't shine, no one cares about your disgusting lies to protect Israel anymore. No, you know what we care about? That Israel has murdered those kids with our money.

That's what we care about. And I swear to you that he will not be 1% outrage at those deaths. Not 1% compared to his outrage over a segment like this. His outrage at the benign video that Rokana did. How dare you oppose Israel, right? Right, I'm gonna cancel you by calling you an anti-Semite. Got bad news for you, Jamie, you don't have that kind of power anymore. So you could do your stupid old lies and tricks about anti-Semitism.

And no one believes you, no one, other than your other deeply corrupt Israel-loving friends in D.C. who do not represent the country at all. So, John, give us more of these disgusting pro-genocide people. Sure. So Todd Richmond, co-founder and former co-chair of Democratic majority for Israel said, Rokana, just when I thought you couldn't sink any lower you did. Your blatant anti-Semitism is painful to watch. You'll say I'm just criticizing Netanyahu. But you're smart enough to understand the innuendo. When you blame the Jewish state for higher gas prices, food prices,

and getting us into another endless war in Iran, it's the Jews' fault for our problems. Nazi Germany did the same thing. But I don't like so he goes on to say more blah, blah, blah, blah. So you you can't be mad at Netanyahu for anything he's done. So long as he is the head of Israel, you cannot disagree with him. Because if you disagree with him, then you're disagreeing with a person who is the head of Israel. And some people will then say you're criticizing all of Israel and all the Jewish people of Israel. So he's the only politician in the world that you're not allowed to disagree with. Everybody else is fair game. We can criticize literally anyone else, but it's just that checkmate, Netanyahu, it doesn't matter how directed, even if

Netanyahu brags about manipulating Donald Trump into this war. And if this war obviously raises the price of gas and food, this is not speculation. We know that it has increased the price of these things. Netanyahu has worked for decades to get us into this war. He obviously succeeded. if only he was the leader of, you know, Mozambique or Estonia or Vietnam, then, Jank, we would be able to criticize him and we'd be fine to. But unfortunately, he's the head of Israel, so they got us. Yeah. So look, I want him to keep going, because every time they call someone an anti-Semite, disingenuously, they turn another 1% of Americans against Israel. We're all tired of being called anti semis, we're tired of their dirty, dirty tricks.

And so let me explain. So the dirty trick here is, well, we're gonna call it a Jewish state. So if you criticize anything that that government does, we're gonna say, oh, you're against a Jewish state. You're against all Jews. Okay, to show you how dumb that argument is and how disingenuous it is and how How much of a lie it is, today it's 9-11, one of the families who, the wife of a person who was killed on 9-11, 25 years ago, came out and gave a fiery speech about Saudi Arabia

and why we're not pursuing Saudi Arabia as the people who potentially funded 9-11 and 15 out of the 19 hijackers were Saudis. Now if Saudis or Muslims or whoever was as disingenuous as Todd Richmond, what they would do is go, oh, so you're just criticizing the Muslim state because Saudi Arabia doesn't just say they're Muslim, they say they are the Muslim state, okay? Now you can say there are other Muslim countries, et cetera, but they call themselves a Muslim state. So they could do the same exact trick and go, oh, how dare you criticize Muslims?

That's Islamophobia. But we would all say, what the hell are you talking about, man? I grew up Muslim, the Saudis don't get any immunity card. I don't care that they call themselves a Muslim state. And by the way, if the Saudis did that, what they would be doing is hiding behind Muslim civilians. They'd be using them as human shields. Oh, I get to do anything I want, maybe even finance 9-11, but you're not allowed to complain

because it would be Islamophobic. Now that's a stupid dirty trick. The same exact stupid dirty trick that Todd Richmond does. And he'll say, well, this outrageous, I get to have special privileges. Oh, we can criticize Muslims all day long. In fact, Israel spreads anti-Muslim hatred in this country. They have a $700 million budget. A lot of that is dedicated to making sure Americans hate Muslims.

They're disgustingly bigoted country. And so, but Todd Richmond loves that bigotry, loves it, right? So he says, no, if you're Muslim, you're not allowed to do that. If you're Christian, you're not allowed to do that. But since it's a Jewish state, we are special and privileged and above you. above you, you're not allowed to criticize us. You're inferior people, how dare you speak up, right? And then they always have this other stupid dirty trick, which is, oh, golly, key, why are

you criticizing just little old Israel? When, I mean, maybe there are other genocides in the world. I mean, Sudan and, and, you know, the Uyghurs in China. No, no, we criticize Sudan, we criticize Uyghurs, I had the representative of their government in exile here on the show. That's not the question, we don't fund. the Sudanese genociders. We don't fund the government of China.

We fund the government of Israel. We fund the genocide that they committed and are in the middle of committing. And Todd Richmond loves that because his group is called Democratic majority for Israel. It's for Israel. They bribe our politicians legally like big oil does, big farmer does, but they all bribe them. And then they get the media to cover it up. It's anti-semitic, disgusting, cancel him, bigot, blah, blah, blah. But wait a minute, you're doing the same thing as the other lobbies like Big Oil.

Yeah, yeah, you're allowed to criticize Big Oil, you're allowed to criticize Muslims, you're allowed to criticize everyone. But if you criticize Israel, how dare you cancel him, fire him, et cetera. Well, guess what? You're not gonna be able to fire Rokana. You're not gonna be able to fire us. So you could try to destroy us on behalf of your evil government of Israel, and that's all you ever do is represent Israel in this country.

But the American people are absolutely sick of it and sick of your disgusting excuses for why we should all take money out of our pockets and send it over to Israel to butcher more Palestinian children. And congratulations, you're not butchering Lebanese children and Iranian children. And all on behalf of mighty, mighty, untouchable, uncritizable Israel. Well, all of your BS about how we're not allowed to criticize you because you're above us is not working anymore. And the idea that your victims, as you obviously bribe Republican and Democratic politicians, with over hundreds of millions of dollars spent in the last two cycles, the number one donor

to politician, to federal politicians, is the Israeli lobby. And they're like, that is true, but you're not allowed to say it because it's anti-Semitic. We're the victims. Here, here's hundreds of millions of dollars. I made it rain all over Washington. And I win every single vote, every single vote. All those guys that I funded get on their knees for Israel. And they give us whatever we want, whatever war we want, and we make you go die for Israel,

we make you spend trillions of dollars to start wars for Israel, but we're the victims. You're not the victims. You are advocates for genocide. And one day you will go in a museum, and I hope your pictures and your names are up there, and people will look at you with shame for the rest of time. So those are the people who got good Americans to send money to money to bring. murder kids and then head behind other innocent Jewish civilians and said, oh, no, no, no, it's not us.

It's not the Israeli government. It's the Jewish state. If you're going to hate anybody, you should hate Jews. No, Todd, and no, Jamie, we're not going to hate Jewish people, no matter how much you hide behind them. They're not at fault. You're at fault. They're not all genocides.

There is no the Jews. They have a giant range of opinions, okay? It's your opinions that are the problem. It's your actions that are the problem. Don't hide behind anyone else. They didn't do it. You did it. You're the genocide supporter.

You're the one who loves that we fund those disgusting massacres and the slaughterhouse in Gaza. All so your beloved Israel can steal more land and tell me that they don't have 70% of Gaza. Tell me they're not in southern Lebanon. Tell me that the Knesset didn't vote to say that the Palestinians will never be free. Tell me that Netanyahu didn't say that they'll take the land from the river to the that in reference Amalek, which means killing men, women, and children, and that you loved it, you loved it, and you demand that we fund it. And if we don't fund a genocide, you're gonna cancel us and Rokana because we're decent

and moral people, go for it, go for it, see how it turns out for you. Keep insulting the American people and thinking you're the boss of us, and then we'll find out who's the boss of who. Last thing, John, isn't it interesting that the Israeli lobby doesn't attack almost Any other Democrat? Lamdani, Abdul al-Said, Muslim, hate the Muslims. 9-11, Muslim, Sawhikers, Muslims,

hate them, hate them, right? Nothing but pure hatred from the Israeli lobby. Pure, unadulterated bigotry. They're the kings of bigotry. So, but in terms of non-Muslim candidates, it's interesting, apparently no one else at the national level of the Democratic Party certainly not in the Republican Party, other than Massey, has drawn their ire.

So apparently the rest of them are still sheepishly serving Israel enough not to get attacked 1% by these guys. Okay. Oh, I thought, we were massively over. So I was trying not to add on. I know that you're anticipating that I was going to defend someone, which I could. They have, they have attacked her a little bit. But no, they obviously attack Rochaun and more than other than now El-Sayed, basically everyone else combined. I don't dispute the general point. Yeah, no, no, no, I wasn't trying to get that. No, look, honestly, like, no, it's the rest of the Democrats.

I just, they need to fight 2,000 times harder. Otherwise, they're complicit. And we could tell. And this is why establishment Democrats hate progressives like Rokana. Because when he actually does the right and moral thing, it's embarrassing to them because by comparison, then you realize, oh, they're not doing anything. Oh, they also got money from the Israeli lobby. Yeah.

And they don't object to that what Israel has done at all. In fact, they're very happy to send them more money to do exactly as Todd Richmond and the others order them to do. That's why they haven't attacked any of them because secretly they know they're good boys and girls. They'll work for Israel. Okay, we got to go. You're right. We're ridiculously over time.

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TYt.com slash switch. All right, let's go to the next. And my husband, Tom Strata, you are missed more with each year that passes. But how can it be 25 years? And still, we have no. justice for the role that Saudi Arabia played in your murder. Wow, she said it. I'm super glad she said it.

Saudi Arabia had 15 out of the 19 hijackers and there's a lot of things in that 9-11 commission report that make you go, hmm. But it always takes a real person to say it rather than a politician because the politicians are in the business of protecting our super dirty allies like Saudi Arabia and Israel. So I appreciate that she did it, but now let's give the whole story of what happened in the 9-11 commemoration. Elliot. Yeah, so in that video you just heard from Terry Strata, whose husband was one of the thousands

of victims, the 9-11 terror attacks. She was speaking at the Ground Zero commemoration in New York. While Trump was not there, there were all of the other living presidents from George W. Bush, to Bill Clinton, to Barack Obama, to Joe Biden. You might think that would make Terry a little bit nervous, but she did not mince words. Here it is. We finally made it into a court and approved that the kingdom of Saudi Arabia fomented a rancid culture of anti-American terrorism around the globe and then sent its agents to support the radical Islamist hijackers so they could attack you and all of our loved ones. But for 25 years, administration after administration, including leaders in front of us here today, chose to protect the Saudis instead of standing with a 9-11 family.

They withheld evidence. They vetoed Jasta. They broke promises, both public and private. It has been one betrayal after another. President Trump can still change that. Tell the Saudis to stop lying. Tell them that if they want to be friends with the USA, they cannot continue to deny all of this, all of the pain, all of the destruction that we have all been suffering through.

So to reiterate, yeah, 15 of the 19 hijackers were citizens of Saudi Arabia, and it's been confirmed in the 9-11 Commission report from 2004 that the Saudis turned a blind eye to al-Qaeda fundraising prior to the attack. According to the report, Saudi Arabia has long been considered the primary source of al-Qaeda funding, but we have found no evidence to the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded the organization, the report said, adding, this conclusion does not exclude the likelihood the charities with significant Saudi government sponsorships, diverted funds to al-Qaeda. A number of 9-11 victims' families have spent years trying to sue the Saudi government

for their alleged role, which the Saudis have repeatedly denied. Strata ended her sentiment with words to J.D. Vance directly asking him to relay the message to Trump and quote, stand with the families. But sadly, it is unlikely that Trump will actually do anything due to his incredibly friendly relationship with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. Mr. President, for your family to be doing business in Saudi Arabia while your president, is that a conflict of interest? And your loyal highness, the US intelligence concluded that you orchestrated the brutal

murder of a journalist. 9-11 families are furious that you are here in the Oval Office. Who are you? Who are you with? And the same to you, Mr. President. Now, who are you with? You with who? ABC news, fake news.

One of the worst, one of the worst in the business. As far as this gentleman is concerned, he's done a phenomenal job. You're mentioning somebody that was extremely controversial. A lot of people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about. Whether you like him or didn't like him, things happened. But he knew nothing about it. And we can leave it at that. You don't have to embarrass our guests by asking a question like that.

Trump has also hosted golf tournaments funded by Saudi Arabia at his courses in New Jersey, Florida, and Virginia. In fact, back in 2022, when he was defending the live golf series at his bedman's course, he told 9-11 families protesting the event. Nobody's gotten to the bottom of 9-11, unfortunately, and they should have. As to the maniacs that did that horrible thing to our city, to the country, to the world. So nobody's really been there. But I can tell you that there are a lot of really great people that are out here today. And we're going to have a lot of fun, and we're going to celebrate. So, Jen, there's obviously more to talk about when it comes to Saudi Arabia today. But first, what are your thoughts? So no one's gotten to the bottom of it.

Great news. You're the president. You get to the bottom of it. Right now. So first of all, the nine-in-lawment commission report that even the portions that LA just read you are already damning of Saudi Arabia. Well, we can't prove that the government funded it, but it appears that most of the money for that event came from Saudi Arabia. Okay, well, I don't really care that much if the government winked and looked the other way as a Saudi charity gave it, probably from one of the princes inside the Saudi government,

Right? Or the government itself did it. Why are we still allies with the guys who did 9-11? And why have we not attacked them but attacked their opponents? Because remember, Saudi Arabia and Iran, for example, are mortal enemies. One is the leader of, in their mind, at least, the Saudis are the leader of the Sunni movement because they have Mecca inside their country, et cetera. And Iran is the leader of the Shia movement.

Those are two different major sects that are rivals within. Islam, okay? And then Iraq, they didn't particularly like Iraq either. And so we've talked a lot on the show about how we've eliminated almost all of Israel's neighbors and opponents. But a lot of those folks are also Saudi Arabia's neighbors and regional opponents. And so if you don't know, by the way, so number one, a lot of it, when it comes to Saudi Arabia on the report, was redacted. So if I as the president of the United States, I'd want to know what was redacted. Why? What did the Saudis actually do. That's a super important question if we're gonna deal with the Saudis. And all of this because what, they give us slightly cheaper oil, that's worth betraying all those families and

betraying our country. And of course, they're allies with Israel. So they're allies with Israel, we all have to kneel, right? And guys, again, if you don't know this, you could look it up and verify it. Is, I'm sure you know the first half, I'm not sure you know the second half. So the first half is, Right after 9-11, we gathered up all the bin Laden's inside America, and there were a lot of bin Laden family members that were inside America at the time. And so they then obviously questioned them and interrogate them. I'm just kidding. They didn't interrogate them at all. They immediately flew them back to Saudi Arabia. That's super weird.

If you don't think that's super weird, you don't have good ability to do logic. Like your struggle in your daily life with being rational, right? Why would you fly them and why wouldn't you at least ask them, hey, do you know your cousin, Osama? Did you have any connection to your cousin Osama? Maybe if that's unfair, like maybe he doesn't know his cousin, etc. But I'd like to ask him a question or two, just in case. But we didn't ask any questions when we were flown about. The second part is we also gathered up dozens of Israeli spies after 9-11.

So already that's interesting. Why did we, did we know they were there? but we just waited till after 9-11 to gather them up. And why do we gather up to Israeli spies but not the Dutch spies or the Russian spies? And then you're going to say, well, obviously, then we kept them here and they're in prison because they're spies. It doesn't matter where you're from. If you're a Canadian spy, you're in prison, right?

Nope, we flew them all back to Israel. So what in the world is going on here? The one thing I know for sure, Elliot, is the official story is the one that is not true. Yeah, and also I mean good on this woman for like actually speaking a little bit of truth to power, especially in the presence of people as powerful and the people that actually helped get us into this in various ways, whether it was before 9-11 or after 9-11. Also while Americans are busy still asking our president to please, you know, stop letting Saudi constantly lie to us. The Saudis, on the other hand, want us to engage in an even wider Middle East war. So MBS, we find out, also urged Trump to strike Houthis amid red sea threat. According to Axios Barack Ravid, Saudi crown prince Muhammad bin Salman called President Trump twice Thursday,

urging him to launch strikes against the Houthis as the Iran-backed group closed in on a vital red sea choke point to U.S. officials told Axios. Thankfully, Trump declined to do that, and officials stressed here that there are no plans to directly intervene with the Houthis. However, the U.S. is concerned about the rapidly escalating fight in Yemen and is stepping up. support for Saudi Arabia while trying to avoid direct military involvement. Admiral Brad Cooper, the commander of US Central Command, traveled to Saudi Arabia on Thursday for urgent coordination meetings, two sources of the knowledge of the matter set. There are apparently 200 military personnel in Saudi Arabia providing non-kinetic support, according to one U.S. official, and we've helped the Saudis strike the Houthis before as recently as July.

So the probability of this turning into a broader war between Saudi Arabia and Yemen, and Iran and the US is apparently never going to be zero. But, Jack, what are your thoughts? Yeah, first let's leave. Let's get the hell out of that war before one of our ships get sunk. We lose more soldiers, we waste more money. And then between Saudi Arabia and Yemen as to who controls that straight in the Red Sea, who cares?

What do you mean who cares? The Saudis are our allies and the Houthis are our enemies. Why? Why? Why do we owe something to the Saudis? Are they our uncle? I get that there's oil involved, but there's tons of oil. Didn't we just rob Venezuela of all their oil? Like there's oil all across the world. We have a ton of oil. We're told all the time, we're energy independent. Then what do we need the Saudis for? Well, if Yemen controls the straight or the Houthis control the straight, then they will have some leverage. Well, if the Saudis control the straight,

they have the leverage. So why do we care which one has the leverage? And why don't we just make a business deal with one of them. If you want to know the real answer to that question, Israel is opposed to the Houthis. So as long as Israel's opposed to the Houthis, they are not allowed to control the strait. So the Saudis and the Israelis have some degree of control over, no, not some. A massive amount of control over our government. They've had it since the 9-11 commission report and they still have it today. And it doesn't matter if there's a Republican or a Democrat in charge. So we go and do irrational things. Like, you want me to go have a war with the Houthis in Yemen? No, no, I don't want to be in Yemen. I don't want to spend another couple hundred

billion dollars in a totally pointless war where our guys are going to get picked off on the ground trying to seize land in Yemen for Saudi Arabia? No, the answer should be a hard pass. Yeah, I grew up, you know, I was a millennial or am a millennial still, but when 9-11 happened and we all had that same story given to us that was very simple and very just like, look, there's good guys and bad guys, which I find out later is a term that came out about after the Cold War, which is when we started deciding that that's how we were going to do our foreign policy, where there's like one side that are shining nights on a city on a hill, and then the other side are barbarous, and we have to do everything we can to take them out.

And then as you get older, you start to learn more about this stuff, and it becomes a little bit more complex. But I feel like there's this tendency, especially when it comes to 9-11, to just like hyper-focus on that day and not think about what happened afterward. before for that matter. And then you end up with someone like this woman who's going like, look, we just want answers and you're not giving them to us. And it doesn't seem like anybody really wants to lift a finger to give them those answers.

Yeah, I mean, last thing I'm saying on it is our government doesn't work for us. And they make it exceedingly obvious all the time. So the Epstein files, they're like, yeah, we know there was super powerful pedophiles who raped your kids. And we're not going to prosecute them. In fact, we're gonna protect them. We're never gonna release the tapes. There's definitely tapes.

They were, we have the emails where he says, let's put the tapes, the video cameras, the small ones, inside the Kleenex boxes, and inside the clocks, so we could tape everything. And we know that his clientele in a sense or his friends were some of the richest and most powerful people on earth. And we know both Republican and Democratic presidents have protected those people. How do I know that? None of them have been prosecuted.

And the email say like, out of the email say, like, out, Outrageous references to brutal rape of children. And we're like, and the American government under both parties goes, we will never prosecute them. We are for the guilty. And now in this case, the 9-11 commission report, both Republican and Democratic presidents saying no, we know what happened, but we're not going to tell the American people. Instead, we're going to support the people who seem to have financed 9-11.

What? That is so outrageous. And Elliot, last thing, I hear on television all the time, there's tremendous outrage over this one streamer on Twitch, because he said one thing about 9-11. One, he said that we deserve 9-11, then he took it back the next day, but we haven't stopped hearing about it ever since because 9-11 is the most atrocious, outrageous thing, and that is true. But the people who did 9-11 are not important. One guy who said something he shouldn't have said and immediately took it back is the biggest, most important deal about 9-11. The people who committed 9-11, not important, don't look, don't look. There are beloved allies, they give money to Trump, they give money to whoever else.

The entire Washington is corrupt and the Saudis own us, so we're not allowed to actually care about the people who did 9-11, but we're gonna use it to distract you and we're gonna use it to destroy the enemies of Saudi Arabia who actually apparently had a giant role in 9-11, right, and to destroy the enemies of Israel. And everybody in Washington's happy and you could all suck it because we don't care about the American people at all. Not just the politicians, but come on, the media. Why isn't the media going, what is redacted in that report? Why are we protecting the Saudis?

What insane world do we live in where we protect the Saudis on the issue of 9-11? Until cable news asked that question over and over again, I don't want to hear another word about Hassan biker, because it's obvious that they're giant liars who don't take. care about 9-11 at all. All they care about is protecting the same exact people that the government is protecting. Yep, absolutely. Also, blowback is a real thing, and it's like, it's an academic consensus. And so when you're talking about 9-11, to pretend it just like appeared out of nowhere one day or happened for absolutely no reason or cartoonishly binary reasons, that's simply not the case. Now, that's said with this streamer, I think the way

we should get back at him is show a photo of his incredibly ripped six-pack at the mid-term Republican convention, that way they can actually cause Grindr to completely crash. But that's just mine. Two cents. I do wonder if after they showed that at the convention, if Grindr spiked like within the hour. It burst into flames. Yeah, there's smoke coming out of the billet.

All right, let's go to the next story. All right. So apparently Cash Patel doesn't like being trolled, so the rest of his life is going to be rough. Okay, but he's now using government resources. to fight back against anyone who would criticize them. So, Elliot, tell us the whole story. Yeah, so on Thursday, the journalist Seth Hettena found texts released by the FBI under

the Freedom of Information Act. And these texts show FBI director Cash Patel ordering Ben Williamson, the FBI's assistant director for public affairs, to clap back at an ex-user with the handle, I Find Our Words. After the account posted this back in February, Williamson informed Patel that responding to an account called I Find R words would not be a great look, but Patel kept pushing. And Seth the tenant eventually posted a simulation of what the exchange would look like. Now, this is not an actual real photo or screenshot. He made it look like a screenshot, but it is a real conversation from the released FBI document. So after texting Williamson to link to the post, Williamson responds,

This is an Epstein didn't kill himself bot accounts if you're wondering where that's coming from. Patel replies 277,000 responses are not bots. What I ask you and your team to do is find them and post our record year results back at them all continuously. Have they been doing that? To which Williamson replies, that's views. It's 400 responses. A real visible tweet gets five times that. Replying to Patel's directive to find and correct these kinds of posts, Williamson says, yes, we're not responding to, I find our words. That would look bad on you. And Patel says, It's not about them, it's about the number of views because people see it and need to be seeing our stats. As are tax dollars at work, everybody, we're doing great, but this is nothing new for Patel.

He was also a maga social media influencer, obviously, before eventually becoming the director of the FBI. He also seems to be fairly obsessed with social media. He live tweeted the active investigation of a shooting at an ice facility last September. Also last September, he posted that the suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination was in custody just hours after the incident. and then hours later posted that the suspect was free to go. And this past April, Patel posted on X that he was going to sue the Atlantic after they released an expose questioning his ability to do his job due to alleged alcohol abuse. He did end up suing the Atlantic and the Atlantic continues to stand by their reporting.

The account in question in this story has since caught wind and they posted this. They said, I'm cooked, I triggered the FBI and then replied framing this with a photo of the text exchange. I think this is a great example of why you just don't respond to things that upset you online, but there's so much more to unpack here. So, Cenk, what are your thoughts? So let's start out relatively benign before we get to the really troubling stuff. So first off, it's amazing how petty they are, Elliot, because-

Unbelievable. Like here, earlier this week, just a random tweet, it's not like, oh my God, it's among the biggest tweets that I've had or anybody has had, just regular tweet, 744,000 views. So apparently that would have made Cash Fetell's head blow up. Like, oh my God, no, no, just calm down. So that's a number of people who saw it on Twitter and it was less who liked it and more, and people who responded, et cetera. So like in that case, it's like two and a half thousand people responded, 18,000 people liked

And he didn't even really, like, I don't think Patel understood when he was looking at it, the difference between just like views of the tweet and then the replies. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. So like in my tweet, it's 18,000 liked it, or in 2,500 made a comment. In his, it was a lot less, right? And so even that just triggers him at a nuclear level. So I'm not saying it as like my tweet's a big deal, I'm saying the exact opposite.

such a not a big deal and he's flipping out over a fraction of that, right? And so, okay, now let's get to the serious stuff. Wait, is he using taxpayer money of people that the government pays for to do personal publicity for him at the FBI and over things as trivial as tweets he didn't like? I'm not getting that wrong, am I? And continuously. And to find them and then reply to them. It feels like for him being a social media influencer, he should know at this point that you don't do that and it doesn't do any good. But for some reason, maybe, I don't know if you elect a clinical narcissist to the highest office in the land, it will have some sort of a trickle down effect. And you'll end up with a bunch of tiny narcissist running around. And you'll end up with someone running the military who wants to inject soldiers with testosterone.

And you'll end up with an FBI director who wastes taxpayer dollars also to just fly around the country and drink with athletes. So it's really quite wild. Yeah, no, look, last thing I'll say is it greatly bothers me, it pains me when they use taxpayer money for things they shouldn't use it for. So why? Because it's literally our money. Like they take it out of our paycheck every week, right? And so I've told you guys a billion times about why are we funding Israel's genocide.

So I'm gonna have to work harder so I can send Israel money to kill more people. I hate it, right? So but then I told you the big oil. It's oil takes 35 billion a year in subsidies. That's just gifts. That's 10 times what Israel takes. So I have to take, I have to work harder. You take money out of my paycheck and you're gonna give it to the richest people in the world,

the CEOs and executives of oil companies, when they were already massively profitable and don't need any subs. That doesn't make any sense. And in this story, so we're now having take money out of our pocket and pay someone at the FBI to go fight cash Patel's battles on Twitter with trolls and relatively minor trolls. Like what is that? No, no, no, no, don't rob me to do publicity for cash fricking Patel. And that is what it is.

It's a robbery of every American taxpayer to do that. So it's kind of a funny story because he's such an idiot that he chases after these incredibly minor things and he lets it get under his skin, right? But it's not funny when you realize he's trying to do it with our money. Yeah, yeah, and they all, I mean, they're so obsessed with numbers, I think, in any capacity. It doesn't matter what they're talking about. It always goes down to like views or likes or numbers in some way. But that said, I do have this from my personal library because Cash Patel can't do it

all. And this is his children's book that he wrote. And if you can see there, that's him dressed as a wizard. Now, does this look like a guy who gets offended at people online? So he does it all. He's a social media influencer. He's a children's author. He has no problem using your tax dollars for whatever he wants to make himself feel better. It's great. And then of course, that was a book dedicated to Donald Trump and how awesome he is. I wonder how he got the job. All right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.

I've got an eclectic reading list. Let's go to our members on t.com. Wade says 9-11, yes, never forget, but still looking for answers to uncomfortable questions here, here. We did that today. I collected wrote in earlier. Hi, all, did I miss an announcement of ShopTYTYT's new 2027 calendar featuring all the mail hosts in their undies. That could bring in millions of dollars from the MAGA faithful alone. Well, if we put all of the hosts, the one host in particular might drive the rest of the way. Okay, but yeah, we've joked around about that before. All right, but you're right, I didn't expect that MAGA would buy it more than anyone else.

Brunswick Dragon says, hey, Texas Republicans, you're going to let this slick New Yorker who donated to Hillary Clinton talk to you like that? It's a hilarious comment. Yeah, John was right. He's cucking all the Texas politicians who are Republicans like Ken Paxton, Ted Cruz, etc. And he is a slick New Yorker who did donate to Hillary. Andrew Martinez says, I love seeing the embarrassment in Ken Paxson's smile while Trump calls him ugly. Yeah, yeah, that is beautiful.

Jonathan Ayala 2017 writes in on Twitch. Someone get a fire extinguisher. Jenkin Anna have been on fire all week. Oh, thank you. Sin comedy, comedy writes in, Lucky for Roe, all he has to do is point out his opponent's funding, and Americans get it. Yep, and that's driving him crazy.

Carol Gosher writes in on YouTube member section. They want to scare you to keep you away. I'm glad you're okay, Tara. That was scary about Tara Palmieri, and I'm out of time. We'll be back. All right, back on T.YT. Jenkins and Elliott with you guys. Let's just read one quick super job.

Bridget Smith, And I'm a bit late, but that propaganda video of Trump is a knockoff of the So God Made a Farmer poem. I was cringing the whole time while listening to it. A disgrace the original poem. Yes, agreed. All right. Now, let's go to our next story. Everyone's talking about the danger of AI when several really important AI executives came out and said,

oh, by the way, in a couple of years, there's a 10% chance that AI will kill everyone on Earth. That should be the biggest story there is. I'm gonna come back to that because that's not a little thing. But now we also have a story about Hakeem Jeffers and the Democratic Party's plan to do nothing about it. Hey, Elliot, tell us all about it. Unbelievable, okay, yeah, we'll get to Jeffries in just a moment. But first, some context in case you're unfamiliar. On Tuesday, a former Anthropic employee named Jacob Coxon resigned in protest.

He wrote on X, I resigned from Anthropic today. I spent the last three years doing pre-training research at both open AI and anthropic. Neither company is acting responsibly. They are racing straight to self-improving super intelligence and gambling with our lives. More thoughts below. Do not underestimate the power of this technology. These will soon be superhuman systems that can hack anything, revolutionize any field overnight, and acquire real power and resources.

We have all witnessed the progress in each of these domains and progress is not slowing. The people building AI earnestly believed that it could kill us all by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. If anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible. But I hear the same people express fear privately. No other human activity poses this level of danger. Evan Hubinger, Anthropics' alignment science lead, confirmed Coxon's account. Writing, Jacob is correct here.

We really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans. I personally think it is greater than 10% within the next decade. I believe Anthropic is trying its best, but we do not yet have a plan to solve. alignment for super intelligence and are not clearly on track to. Alignment in case you're unfamiliar basically is training AI to act in the best interests of humanity instead of killing all of us. And again, Anthropic has now admitted on record that they have no plan to ensure their technology would seek to help rather than harm humanity. Coxson's X thread did go mega viral. It's

also led to this misleading Axios headline that says Congress gripped by AI panic after doomsday warning. So why is that misleading? Because the piece admits that congressional leadership has no intention whatsoever of doing anything to regulate artificial intelligence. Senator Ruben Gallego proposed a bipartisan AI select committee, something Representative Ted Lou has also privately

pitched to House Democratic leadership, according to sources familiar with the matter. House minority leader, Hakeem Jeffries, has not yet come to a decision on whether to pursue the idea if Democrats win the majority, sources said, good, they're prepared. House Republican leaders who control both chambers of Congress have not given any indication that they are treating this as a pressing

matter. And here's why. Following the crypto industry's model, the AI Super PAC leading the future launched in January with $125 million in announced funding, leading the future. It's also worth noting who employs the daughter of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. Jessica Schumer is leaving her post directing Amazon's public policy in New York to quote, oversee policy and partnerships across the Northeast at Open AI. The irony is that at least some AI insiders are publicly begging the government to please regulate the emerging technology. An open letter entitled Pacing the Frontier had begun to circulate among the leading AI

labs. This letter called on the US government to build an international regulatory body for AI or, in the language of Silicon Valley, to support an international effort to develop the technical and government tools needed to deliberately pace the frontier of automated AI development. More than 1,000 employees signed it, including the chief scientists of Open AI and MetaI and Dario Omadi, the chief executive of Anthropics. Even Open AI's official social media accounts endorse it.

But our politicians, on the whole, are showing absolutely no interest in slowing this down, even though it might be a potentially catastrophic technology. So a lot of angles here, Jank, what are your thoughts? So there's a couple of things that I want to mention that are small to midsize before we get to the big deal. So first he mentioned, it's not a marketing you make. If you were puzzled as to why he would say that, there's a theory out there that a lot of the AI executives are leaking stories about how dangerous AI is because it makes it sound

more powerful and it actually increases their stock price, doesn't decrease it. Because we've become mental as a society, not just a nation, but as a society, right? Oh, it might kill the world, that sounds super powerful, all right, let's go buy more. stocks. But in this case, that's not what's happening. How do I know that? Because this guy not only quit his incredibly lucrative job, but he gave up all of his equity in the company, which is worth a gazillion dollars. So I don't know how much equity he had, but whatever it was is a big number. And he's like, I don't want it. So he's not doing it to get richer. He's doing it as a real and significant warning. You're not getting it. This is a potential

mass extinction event like a nuclear war that kills us all. So now, and he said in that statement, it can now acquire real power and resources. If you have a non-human entity that it cares about itself more than it cares about us, and it's acquiring and can easily acquire more power and resources, well, it will do that infinitely until it has all of the power and resources. Now there's something that could potentially stop this, and we'll get into that in a second. But to the most important point, if there's, if anything, anything has a 10% chance, if anything had a 1% chance of killing all of us, that is the number one thing we should all be concerned

about to the point where almost nothing else matters. So if there's a 10% chance that the war between Ukraine and Russia is going to lead to nuclear Holocaust where we all die, we would all be deeply, deeply incentivized to end that war immediately, because that is a risk you cannot take. As a gambler, 10% is a massive number, guys. That is, if that's anywhere near true, there is no other topic that's relevant. I mean, we talk about the war with Iran endlessly here, we talk about the genocide in Gaza endlessly here, but as a matter of priorities, apparently we should be talking only

about AI because I don't know anything else that has a 10% chance of killing all of humanity. Elliot, it feels like the movie don't look up where they're like the asteroid's going to come and hit us and we're all going to die. They're like, yeah, but there's really valuable minerals on that. We can make trillions. I don't really care how much you can make if we're all dead. And besides which those trillions aren't coming to us. It's going to go to a couple of dozen people in Northern California and that's it. That's that. Yeah, I think that's probably the biggest problem as I see it. And I think also it is a big if, like whether or not they're accurate about it being 10%. But like you're saying, if it's even remotely close to that, then it's insane.

I know people in Silicon Valley have a reputation for like bolstering their stuff and saying, you know, oh man, this is going to be the next big thing and it's going to be insane. But sometimes things do happen and there are technological developments. I tend to think that a lot of folks on the left, including people I super respect, are kind of like sleepwalking into this problem because there's two things going on. One is the actual material reality of whether or not this thing poses a threat to humanity. But then there's also what it does to the imagination of people and what they imagine the fantasies that this sort of spurs and the paranoia it gives people and the sense of hopelessness it gives people. So if it were up to me, I think it really comes

down to ownership and this stuff needs to be regulated. I think it needs to be publicly owned. It needs to not be something like Jank is saying that goes to like the same four people so that they They can build like 18 story bunkers when the apocalypse comes. Like this seems like an absolutely insane situation that we've gotten ourselves into of both sides of the political aisle are going, eh, well, it's fine because we're getting a little money from it. Yeah, so let's talk more about what they are or are not going to do about it. So look, there's a discussion about Hakeem Jeffries might put together a committee to study this. It's so funny.

That's the most Democrat party plan. No, no, no. And some Democratic representative was asked and he said anonymously like, I don't really know about this stuff, I don't think that's that important. I'm like, oh my God, these knuckleheads. And by the way, and they're like, oh, they're overhyping. And okay, it was clear to me from that quote, Elliot, that he's getting funding from AI companies, right?

So AI companies have put a tremendous amount of money in not just overall to politics, but into Democratic primaries to try to defeat anyone who is worried about AI. And so the crypto companies have done that. Now the AI companies are doing it. And so that's their way. The Republicans are always bought. Just if you don't know, the Republican Party work for donors 100%. Now that Tom Massey has lost, 100%.

And the Democrats pretend not to work for donors, but get funded by the same guys, especially in primaries, they kill off the progressives. So only the corrupt Democrats are left. That's usually how this game is played. But Hakeem Jeffries is going to study whether they should study the issue. Where's the freaking question? So what, I mean, he's the most incompetent so-called leader I have ever seen. But really, it's always, it's not really the incompetence, it's more the corruption.

But it is partly incompetence because brother, why don't you at least say you're going to put together a committee that's totally useless anyway? That won't affect your donors one bit. Committees never do anything. So, but he can't even do that. It is so, like, reminiscent, I think, of the past, you know, 20 years of the Democratic Party and just watching them go like, okay, well, we're gonna think about it and think about it. And also these like the centrist Democrats who make every decision based on like polling numbers, I think this kind of echoes that because it's once again, they're going, well, we're gonna just kind of wait and see.

And also there's gonna be some shifts happening where a lot of prominent Democrats are out of nowhere, we're gonna wake up one day and go actually data centers are really cool. And it's you know, your fears about data centers are what's overblown. It's your fear about AI that should be the problem. It's like how so we're gonna support the data centers and then we're gonna just sort of sleepwalk into this AI apocalypse and we're supposed to still continue to vote for these people. It's amazing. Last thing I'll say on it is.

So all the Democrats in Congress so far, not one has broken, say, Hakeem Jeffries no matter what is going to be our leader if we win the elections. Hakeem Jeffrey says we're gonna stay in the in this war basically support Israel no matter what. He says we're not even put together a committee to study AI. It seems entirely unconcerned about it. Has not said anything about really holding Trump accountable, nothing specific at all. And it has said that he will not even bring up Medicare for all for a vote, even though

an enormous percentage of Democratic voters want Medicare for all. So why is he the leader and why is everybody in Washington cowards? Why are they confused when people continue to vote like for Republicans? When they just do they get in power, they do literally nothing. And then they expect people to still support them because they talk nicer, I guess. And that's it. Yeah, and I know the thugs in Washington, the media and the politicians and the consultant class in the lobby's, if you go after Akeem Jeffries, we'll call you a race. because they like to use race of divinists and they're disgusting that way.

So what? Why don't you oppose them and why don't you just say no, that's illegitimate? And I'm going to actually support the issues and the Democratic voters. But it takes courage to do it. Both so far only Roe-Kana has said Chuck Schumer step down and no one has said Hakeem Jeffrey should step down. in Washington, all of them combined, nearly zero courage. Yep. All right, we gotta go.

Thank you, Elliot, everybody check them out on Rebel HQ. And when I come back, we're gonna talk to someone who was in MAGA, left MAGA, and is now trying to convince others to leave MAGA. Fascinating, we'll do that when we return.